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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and it's

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Speaker 3: a lovely lovely What is what is Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you pulled it out because you were

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Speaker 1: fair than me, right right right? Day seven Tuesday. I've

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Speaker 1: lost track. It doesn't matter one bit, broundhog Day is

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Speaker 1: what day it is? Yes, I looked like a tremendous

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Speaker 1: contested battle there. I'm not sure who won.

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Speaker 3: It, Joey Porter and Butler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a jump ball and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: who they're going to give credit to on that.

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Speaker 3: Officials down there and they're not They didn't signal touchdown.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he came down with it two

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Speaker 1: feet if he caught it, and it might have been

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Speaker 1: an interception, but that was just a big guy rebounding

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Speaker 1: fiasco in the corner of the end zone. Yes, very

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Speaker 1: physical and real quick. I know we're say hello to

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Speaker 1: everybody and all that too, But a minute ago, I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people made a big deal out

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Speaker 1: of this on the far field, they're doing those backs

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Speaker 1: versus backers as receivers. Again. Yes, and McFarlane took one

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Speaker 1: seventy yards or whatever. But hey, I'm another nice play here,

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Speaker 1: a little flag on that one, I said. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm as excited as anyone about McFarland. But he should

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Speaker 1: like that drill. He should kill that drill.

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Speaker 3: But right, yeah, it's almost like watching an NFL prospect

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Speaker 3: in the D two game, right, right, right, you're better domin.

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Speaker 1: You should win that all the time, right, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: asking a linebacker to guard eighty yards and all the

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Speaker 1: width of the field.

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Speaker 3: The one you're doing now, Matt, is a little bit

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Speaker 3: different than the ones. This one is, right, because you

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Speaker 3: have two backers and two in a tight end and

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Speaker 3: a running back, so there's some passing off of guys

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Speaker 3: and things of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybeah, I should have led with that, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, because we haven't seen a lot of this.

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Speaker 1: But in the closed field, the they're doing route combinations, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the far field are doing row combinations. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's with tight ends and backs. We're here, it's

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Speaker 1: two receivers, you know, so it is a little different.

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Speaker 1: It's not true. One on one.

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Speaker 3: You'll layer that all together very right, right offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 1: But you get more reps this way, and you get

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Speaker 1: you know, if your reads are quicker, and all those

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Speaker 1: things too for the quarterback. So it all adds up.

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Speaker 1: But it's a tough chore for the defense.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, it's just there's no help.

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Speaker 1: There's no help. There's just on one, a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of blades of grass. You gotta defense.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he has. Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawlly. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and

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Speaker 3: ESPN nine seventy are ongoing coverage from Saint Vincent College.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers their practice sessions Today is day number seven,

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Speaker 3: seven seven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we've been here a little over a week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a month in some ways. Yes, in some

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Speaker 1: ways it went quick. But a lot of groundhog day,

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of groundhog day. The first team offense and first team

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Speaker 3: defense both on the field here getting ready for some stuff.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are unpadded today for back to back days

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Speaker 3: in pads.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the list, but there's some veterans that

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Speaker 3: Isaac sam Olho not out there Robins out there, Alan

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Speaker 3: Robinson not out there defensively looks like no, T J. Watt,

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: You're getting a look at some other guys. Giving your

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night's practice.

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Speaker 1: It protally makes sense. Yeah, I guess we should have

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Speaker 3: You know, I did know that. You know, I figured

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Speaker 3: they were going to finish with a little two minute

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Speaker 3: action today and they will do some two minute type

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Speaker 3: situations to end practice. So that'll be fun. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: high paced of course. Yeah, we haven't seen any of

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Speaker 3: ta's they do it something you know the mini camps

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Speaker 3: right right, I mean there's people watching, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: The first one was a run. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: you are allowed to you can throw yeah, play action,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what they did there.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that was a play action to the right.

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Speaker 3: Connor Hayward came from that side as a motion player

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Speaker 1: It's tough to defend, man, Yeah, I mean they're doing

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Speaker 1: so much of it. Where a running back that would

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Speaker 1: have been nice game too, right, that was not artificial

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Speaker 3: Know, and you have to go out now touch and

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Speaker 3: you want to put where he can catch it and

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Speaker 1: To close exactly. I think Kenny's gonna be a really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, He's seems to be pretty accurate in those things.

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Speaker 3: Here's a pitch to the left to Harris and he

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Speaker 1: It's hard on the block in the effort and all

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Speaker 3: So I dug up this little stat today, Matt was

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Speaker 3: I was a little preview of my five for Friday today.

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Speaker 3: One of the notes that I had years. Najia Harris

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Speaker 3: is gonna be twenty five this year. He is twenty five. Okay,

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Speaker 3: year three well for him, at year three. For Levon Bell,

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Speaker 3: for example, it was year five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, they came out of the college. Different ages, right.

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Speaker 3: Levy On Bell in year when he was twenty five

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Speaker 1: Would you say that was his best season? I just

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Speaker 3: Thirteen sixty one he had he had eighty four or

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Speaker 3: the volume in terms of the he played one more

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Speaker 3: He missed the per game, Yeah, the per game he

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Speaker 1: And he was really shining.

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Speaker 3: Real those were his two years, that three year period

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Speaker 1: The height of his powers. That's when he was first

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Speaker 1: picking in the fantasy draft type. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Franco Harris, at age twenty five, had his best year statistically,

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Speaker 3: a career high twelve hundred and forty six yards ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He also caught twenty eight passes for another two hundred

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think knowing the speed of the game,

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Speaker 1: how to maintain your body, two full offseasons, things like that.

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Speaker 1: And you know that ILK receiving skills, which is different

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Speaker 1: than the Franco era, of course, but similar to Belle.

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Speaker 1: They have three good receiving backs, but Nausey's as good

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Speaker 1: I think that expectations should be high for Nause this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And you know, I should notice

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Speaker 3: well that he has more rushing yards than both Franco

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Speaker 1: Okay, I saw a stat the ore day too. He

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Speaker 1: the last two years, right too, And he's.

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Speaker 3: Sixth in rushing yards and total yards in that period.

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Speaker 3: The people calling him a bust. If you're sixth in

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Speaker 3: Maybe he hasn't lived up quite lived up to your expectations,

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Speaker 1: No. And it's also partially because the whole first round

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Speaker 1: everyone thinks it's different. I mean, it's always a weird conversation.

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Speaker 1: Was taking like eight picks after le'v on. Sarah Henry

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Speaker 1: That's fine. But you know, if you take a guy

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Speaker 1: twenty four as a running back, that's somehow bad m m. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a strange delineation really, And as I've noted at

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't have a starter now. Of course we

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Speaker 1: really impressed with Jalen Warren. McFarlane's having a very good

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Speaker 1: had better efficiency metrics than Nausey. I mean, but most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the the conundrum that that Bill Cower

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Speaker 3: effective than Bettest last year. Yeah, but he's running into

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Speaker 3: third down defenses lighter box. You know, when if you're

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Speaker 1: Of course, you know, especially third and long of course.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers working.

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Speaker 3: On a little coming out of their.

439
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Speaker 1: Own backed up offensive. Yeah there you call it.

440
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're at the offenses at the eleven the defenses

441
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Speaker 3: on the field here, and these are situations where you

442
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Speaker 3: typically see more quick stuff coming at the ball getting Yeah,

443
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Speaker 3: you don't want to take to sack here, you know,

444
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Speaker 3: getting the ball out quickly. And so that's what we've

445
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Speaker 3: seen the first two reps. Here, can you Pickkeett awaiting

446
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 3: the snap? He takes a snap nausea, Harris Waits picks

447
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Speaker 3: up a blitz.

448
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Speaker 1: There real quick. Yeah, it's not super quick, but.

449
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Speaker 3: He scanned down the field a little bit there and

450
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Speaker 3: had to took the outlet pass to Zach Gentry would

451
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Speaker 3: have been about a five yard gain and that's a

452
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Speaker 3: that's a win in the next situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least gives you some breathing room. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah right, and in a way, the defense probably isn't

455
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Speaker 1: too upset about it either. You gave it five yards

456
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Speaker 1: and they lost it down, you know, so everybody kind

457
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Speaker 1: of accepts it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is that the North like a five yard game in

459
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Speaker 3: the NFL? Like you'll take that offensively and defensively?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're gonna get hurt defense. Yeah, I

461
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Speaker 1: would say second and five is pretty neutral.

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, your little motion there from right to left

463
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 3: of pet by pet Farm with emotions back pick it

464
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Speaker 3: takes the snap, HiT's gunneryal chefs for about twelve yard game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got a lot of separation on that route.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, working against the Joey Porter Junior there. That those

467
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Speaker 3: are probably the receivers that Porter Junior is going to

468
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Speaker 3: struggle the most with.

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Speaker 1: The smaller Yeah, the quick receiver left right type guys. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's a good route concept too. They they had some

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Speaker 1: motion before and then three of them ended up sort

472
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Speaker 1: of in a bunch situation where he threw to that side. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was a tough to me. That was

474
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Speaker 1: more of a rookie moment than quickness beating him, you know.

475
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Speaker 1: But I do think the smaller receivers will give him,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, challenges. Yeah.

477
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Speaker 3: Now we got Mitched Trubisky at quarterback. He's got Jaylen

478
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Speaker 3: Warren to his left and a sidecar takes the snap

479
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Speaker 3: and he's looking downfield there. I didn't want to say,

480
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Speaker 3: no catch, that doesn't look like that. No catch that

481
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Speaker 3: was Miles Boykin. He made the catch, but he was

482
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Speaker 3: pushed out of bounds. He had to extend to go

483
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Speaker 3: get the ball and the defensive back which was number

484
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Speaker 3: thirty there, which is Chris Wilcox, pushing him out of bounce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Athletic feet there by him, I mean went up

486
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Speaker 1: and got it, just didn't get his feet in because

487
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Speaker 1: the good play by the defense. It looked to me

488
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Speaker 1: again we was watching real quick first, but he looked

489
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Speaker 1: at Gunner first, who was wide open, and I thought

490
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Speaker 1: he should have given it to him. I mean he

491
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Speaker 1: also had a lot of separation on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gunner was in the slot there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did like a five yard out and maybe just

494
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Speaker 1: maybe he's looking to get this get it all once. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 1: I went to the deeper route.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes a snap here, scansa the defense here.

497
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Speaker 3: This time he hits Boyking on a crosser and James

498
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Speaker 3: Pierre comes up and makes that tackle on that one.

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Speaker 1: So that would have been about a five yard gain

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Speaker 1: on the crosser. This might also be a blue period.

501
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Speaker 1: It looks like they're they're bringing extra guys quite often.

502
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Speaker 3: And that's typically in those situations where you get the

503
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Speaker 3: offense backed up, that's where you really want to.

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Speaker 1: Blitz like yeah, yeah, yeah, he can cause a big

505
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Speaker 1: play or you know, get the ball out. I mean,

506
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Speaker 1: those are game changers.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of We got a lot of guys,

508
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Speaker 3: as we mentioned in the first segment, a lot of

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Speaker 3: veteran players not participating today, veteran day off Clinting, Patrick Peterson.

510
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Speaker 1: On the defense, T J. Watt, Cam Hayward.

511
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Speaker 3: So the second unit then has some guys in there

512
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Speaker 3: as well that, you know, trying to make this roster. Sure,

513
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Speaker 3: let's see here, we got Fooko out there. We got

514
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Speaker 3: it's Manny Jones with ar Mom Watts in the middle,

515
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Speaker 3: gets a motion from left to right by General Chewsky

516
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Speaker 3: now back again to the other side.

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Speaker 1: Nobody went with them, so we assume zone here. I

518
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Speaker 1: would guess right, Yeah, Blitz came free on that one too.

519
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Speaker 1: Maybe it would have got out in time, but there

520
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Speaker 1: was a totally free, untouched rusher.

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Speaker 3: There's a pretty quick quick yeah to uh to McFarland.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so Mitch understood it. He's like I could

523
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Speaker 1: get bought of hands, right. I'm not sure if killer

524
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Speaker 1: brew would have got home or not. I'm sure you noticed.

525
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Speaker 1: But seven shots, and even since the offense has been

526
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Speaker 1: a little off, you know, like it's close to doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, your regular guys were the

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Speaker 1: guys that the quarterbacks are used to working with, working

529
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Speaker 1: with some guys that not quite who they typically work

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Speaker 1: with today, we got a bunch to the leftist time,

531
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Speaker 1: we get McFarland who's on the field with Warren.

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Speaker 3: He motions from left to right. Now he goes back

533
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Speaker 3: to the bunch on the left side, and Trubisky scans at. Oh,

534
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Speaker 3: nice little kind of pick play there, using big number

535
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Speaker 3: eighty Darnell Washington to kind of screen off two defenders,

536
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Speaker 3: and McFarland catches a bot on the on the left.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say flat because that was more

538
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Speaker 3: like five.

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Speaker 1: Yard yeah, yeah, and more of a short out.

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Speaker 3: But nobody but nobody was around him when he caught that,

541
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Speaker 3: because Darnell Washington kind of just turned and around and

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00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: both defenders were kind of right there.

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Speaker 1: On his back. My hunches. You mentioned the motion because

544
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Speaker 1: that was a different motion than they use all the time,

545
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Speaker 1: because it was kind of a zigzag motion. He went

546
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Speaker 1: to went one way and turned around and came back,

547
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Speaker 1: and I assume Mitch figured we really are getting man here. Yeah,

548
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Speaker 1: So they ran these man concepts to kind of rub

549
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Speaker 1: off each other. That's what offenses call at defense calls

550
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Speaker 1: are the pick. So, however, kind you want to be

551
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Speaker 1: done that way?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mason Rudolph in there now and he throws a

553
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Speaker 3: quick opal put it on the ground. Nice play there

554
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Speaker 3: by thirty eight a madre Harper knocking that ball loose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was a catch.

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you close, Dan Chisna. He caught the ball

557
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Speaker 3: and turned and just as he turned, Harper came in

558
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Speaker 3: and knocked the ball out.

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Speaker 1: So might not have been a football move. A lot

560
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Speaker 1: of quick game though, too, and we're getting it out

561
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Speaker 1: pretty quick. It was a football move.

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Speaker 3: That's a strange interpretation to me. I mean they're on

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Speaker 3: a football field. I would assume everything that they do

564
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Speaker 3: out there is a football I.

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Speaker 1: Think stepping into between the white lines as a football.

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Speaker 3: Yes, again, Rudolph in the backfield, he's got a back

567
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Speaker 3: to his left.

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Speaker 1: I can't see the number of the back. That is

569
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Speaker 1: twenty five motion, gentry back in. I haven't seen as

570
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Speaker 1: much tight end motion. No, No, if you don't count.

571
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Speaker 3: Heyward holding the ball a long time there, he goes deep,

572
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Speaker 3: had him there, but it's just kind of really under

573
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Speaker 3: the throne. Yeah, kind of threw it out there where

574
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Speaker 3: he I don't think he could really step into that one.

575
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Speaker 1: No, I said, there's a lot of people around him. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 1: it was all arms, all upper body right.

577
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Speaker 3: Running some new new offensive skill position players in there. Now,

578
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Speaker 3: I guess he would be your your fourth guys.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you gotta get them ready to play. Yeah,

580
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Speaker 1: they're gonna play a lot in preseason opener.

581
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, They're gonna play probably the entire fourth quarter. You

582
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Speaker 3: would think a lot of these.

583
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Speaker 1: Guys, I would think, so yeah, Yeah, I don't think

584
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Speaker 1: you're pushing no for this one.

585
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: Rudolph breaks the huddle. He's got the back in this

586
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Speaker 3: case is Greg Bell. He moves him back from the

587
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: left side or from his right side to his left.

588
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: Now he gets some motion from right or left to right.

589
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Speaker 3: Rudolf takes snap and he looks left and he hits

590
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Speaker 3: the tight end who came across the motion. Yeah, and

591
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Speaker 3: that is eighty seven.

592
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Speaker 1: That's Rodney William. Williams's showing up a few times this camp.

593
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Speaker 1: He is not a bad blocker for a guy's listed

594
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Speaker 1: at six four, two thirty five. Yeah, I would say

595
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Speaker 1: he's kind of that Evan Ingram body type, you know,

596
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of moves like a big receiver, thinner waist, long arms,

597
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Speaker 1: not a bulky, you know, mow you down type.

598
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Speaker 3: Showed up and backs on backers. I was watching the

599
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Speaker 3: one on one outside linebackers versus the tight ends drill.

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Speaker 1: He again willing blocker. He's just a little undersized. But

601
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Speaker 1: I have no idea if he has special team's acumen

602
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Speaker 1: or not, but it would go a long way if

603
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Speaker 1: he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they could keep another tight end on

605
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Speaker 3: the practice squad.

606
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Speaker 1: It's a very long I would think if you're going

607
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Speaker 1: to play a ton of twelve, I mean, you're gonna

608
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Speaker 1: want five of them on the team in some capacity.

609
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Speaker 3: Can Rudolf takes the snap here, he's looking over the

610
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Speaker 3: middle and he's going deep.

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Speaker 1: Period. He's got him.

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Speaker 3: A little underthrown, but came out a little late. Yeah,

613
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: get a little good recovery there in that situation by

614
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Speaker 3: uh that was Chez and again Yeah and Madri Harper.

615
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that should have been six. Nice play by Harper

616
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: to recover, of course, but he's the right right right

617
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Speaker 1: to throw to make though, absolutely field. That was the post.

618
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Speaker 1: That's what we've been looking for. No, they're they're practicing

619
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Speaker 1: the stuff that they needed work with yet last year.

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Speaker 3: Now they're gonna do some third down work here back

621
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Speaker 3: towards the middle of the field, setting the ball up

622
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: at the forty four yard line on the offensive offensive

623
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Speaker 3: side of the ball. Here, looking like third and short.

624
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: Third and three is what they're setting up here.

625
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: So let's see again. This is probably more quick type stuff. Yeah,

626
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: this looks like ones versus one again. Yeah, back to ones,

627
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: well ones ones as it were today, one's worst ones

628
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: and one and a half verset one and a half.

629
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Speaker 3: There you go. Uh just looking here? Who the slot

630
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: that looks to be today? Thirty seven? Elijah Riley, I

631
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Speaker 3: like to.

632
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: Give you some example. Cody White's out there. I mean

633
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: they trust him, but he's not a one you know,

634
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: right right right right, okay, And he's one of my motion.

635
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: He's in motion and he motions his back.

636
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: And Elijah Riley goes with him. There he's he looks

637
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: he's got George Pickens one on one down the side

638
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: of up up up. He catches it on a tip,

639
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: but the tip.

640
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Speaker 1: Came out of bounce a lot of bounds. Yeah. It's

641
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: nice defense are by Joey Porter. Absolutely. I mean two big,

642
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: big behemoths that have been going at it all all camp.

643
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: And Porter was right in his hip pocket there.

644
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice job, and h Porter.

645
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Might be getting the hang of this, then he might

646
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Speaker 1: be Okay, Yeah, I think he's got a shot.

647
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: The length is again in the situation, even if you

648
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: get a step or two behind him, it still has

649
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: to put it over his head right right right, Very difficult.

650
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gonna put a lot of arc on it

651
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: to get it to drop straight down. That's why the

652
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's and those guys throw with such too high

653
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Speaker 1: in the air. You want to come straight down so

654
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Speaker 1: they can run under it. Ass on the.

655
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: Line Anthony McFarland in the backfield on Kenny Pickett's right here,

656
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: we got two receivers on the bottom, one receiver on

657
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: the top on the right side that is friar Mouth

658
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: by himself over there, and he motions in just a

659
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah yeah, and the blindside Trey Norwood breaks

660
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: up the pass intended for George Pickens.

661
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mark Robinson came sah, that's all that was all

662
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: play design too, blitz design. Yeah.

663
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: He kind of looped around the outside of the right

664
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: on the right side, and there was nobody out there

665
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: because they had all picked up their guy.

666
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he can close. Yes, he can seat ball,

667
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: get ball. Yeah, that's what he does.

668
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: Okay, we got fifty five out there is alone inside

669
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: backer now, so this would be dime.

670
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah that way, yep against eleven there at dime.

671
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: Norwich shifts back to deep safety picking Look that way,

672
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: it's Cody White. It's Cody White or a crosser there

673
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: that would.

674
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Pick the first down. Seeing more crossing routes too.

675
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, A getting work in the middle of the right,

676
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: middle of the field, middle of the field, middle of

677
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: the fielders, No doubt, that's an emphasis. That's one thing

678
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: if I'm taking anything out of this, uh these training

679
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: camp practices, it is they are working the middle of

680
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: the field hard. And I wonder if some of these

681
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: we see the offense holding the ball a little bit,

682
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: waiting for some of that stuff to develop, or making

683
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: sure that you look at those that might be something that's.

684
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Just training your eyes and getting into they stressed to them.

685
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: So the middle field has been an issue. And I

686
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: dug this little n nugget up, which isn't great. I

687
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: mean it only over the last two years only the

688
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Bears have fewer yards between the numbers passing the ball

689
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: than the Steelers. I mean, so I look at it

690
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: two ways, like, boy, you should have done more of it,

691
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: and Steelers have a lot more passing attempts than the Bears,

692
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: but it's also uncharted waters. You know, like what if

693
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: you get good at that, you know what I'm saying,

694
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: like at least great average at it. Yeah, that's a

695
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: nice addition to your house. You know, you could look

696
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: at it two ways, like, Okay, we didn't get enough

697
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: production there, I'm even close. But if we do, you know,

698
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: why do you think they drafted Washington? Why do you

699
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: think you go sign Alan Robinson? You know you already

700
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: have friar mooth guys like Pickens and Deyonte can certainly

701
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: work over the middle, Hayward, you know, like they got

702
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: the bodies to do it. And now I think we're

703
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: going to see it.

704
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the second team unit in there now, Mitch Trubisky

705
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: in the backfield with Jayalen Warren. She's in the shotgun

706
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: motions Austin from left to right into the slot, from

707
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: one slot to the next. He takes a snaps. Yeah,

708
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: a nice show, a little pass flip over the middle

709
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: to Yeah, lost the football. Channon Sullivan hacked that out

710
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: of there. Yeah, nice job by him getting that ball loose.

711
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: And that's what you know, those are the kind of

712
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: plays that catch catch catch a coach's eye.

713
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Hayward is very unhappy them. Great. I mean,

714
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: it's the sport's so funny. It's a great play him

715
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: until the last half a second. I did everything perfectly,

716
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: got open, caught the football, got field, didn't finish the play.

717
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those Uh, great play, don't do

718
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: it again.

719
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of isolating on Austin after the

721
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: motion on that play. Yeah, he ran this this jerk

722
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: route where he you know, looks like he's going inside,

723
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: puts his foot in the ground, just drives towards the sideline.

724
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: That's gonna be hard to defend with his skill set.

725
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean he gets in out of his break so well.

726
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: Now he's got old Chefsky in the slot to his right,

727
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: Warren to his left in the sidecar for Bisky scans

728
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: the defense, or he takes a snap and drops back.

729
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: Oh a whole lot of rush, Oh boy.

730
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what they were. Looked like they

731
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: were setting up the screen, so they allowed the rushers

732
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to come free and somebody didn't get the assignment.

733
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Mitch just tried to run and I was

734
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: going it.

735
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: Was not gonna happen. That was a blow up.

736
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson

737
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: and I am Dale. We are live from Steelers training

738
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: camp practice here at Saint Vincent College. Steelers have about

739
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 3: a half an hour more to go here in this

740
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: practice session. Again, I've been told they're going to close

741
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: with a little two minute action here to finish off practice,

742
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: So that'll be fun bringing you the play by play

743
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: on that. But we'll be back with more right after this.

744
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: Wow. When you want Black and Gold football talk, you

745
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: want SNR Steelers Nation Radio. This is the Drive with

746
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to

747
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

748
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and

749
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

750
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: nine seventy. We have our live, ongoing coverage of Steelers

751
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: training camp practices here at Saint Vincent College. And we

752
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: just saw the team portion end and we're on to

753
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: a little more special team games action here and they've

754
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: got the pads out there again today. Matt with the

755
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: pads lined up like they are the gunner or the

756
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: the jammers here on the outside.

757
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Originally I thought this could be a drill. We've

758
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: seen a lot of special teams where they're coming straight

759
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: at us across the middle of the field, but they

760
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: have three lines to attack. I assume a punk returner.

761
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they get gunner Olschewsky done with his back

762
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: to the defense. I guess he just reacts to Yeah,

763
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: three guys come, and then they gotta come, you know,

764
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: kind of hem him in.

765
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: And work as a team too. You don't want to

766
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: lose leverage, and somebody's got to put him on the ground.

767
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: But you know, you don't want to open a lane.

768
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: This is like velocer raptor training. Yeah, right, exactly exactly

769
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: as a pack. Yeah, wolves do this, Well, that's what

770
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I would call this drill, suggests that to him.

771
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if you would know what we were

772
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: talking about.

773
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: Maybe wolves are pack of sharks or something something.

774
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're hemming it in and then boom, And

775
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I like, how, so what happens here? The middle guy

776
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: takes the inside and then whichever way the punt returner

777
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: breaks and they don't know what that's the outside guy said,

778
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: he's got he's got outside contained.

779
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: And then what you see, watch how this happens here.

780
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: You see the guy who's on the opposite side, he'll

781
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: flow to the backside.

782
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a good way of putting it,

783
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, to put the caribou down.

784
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, But just in case he gets through the first

785
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: two guys, you have somebody there to to be that

786
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: third guy to get or.

787
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: If he cuts it back heavy. You know, some of

788
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: these guys are so electric with the ball in their hand.

789
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: But the biggest crime my hunt would be is if

790
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: you can't give up the sideline, if you're one of

791
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: these two edge guys, no matter what you do, Like

792
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: in that last round, Connor Hayward really contorted his body

793
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: just to make him go to the inside, no matter what,

794
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: you gotta be. And McFarlane's doing it too, not that

795
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna return punts necessarily, but just works right, exactly right.

796
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's training for both. And you want fast dudes

797
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: that are hard to contain.

798
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, okay again good that's uh. It's our buddy

799
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: eighty seven there, Rodney Williams. Yeah, running down there and

800
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: doing all right. So I'd mentioned before, I don't know

801
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: what he does special teams wise, but he's out there

802
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: giving it a shot. Yeah.

803
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: Now we got Austin doing it here. I don't know

804
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: if they tell them which way they want to.

805
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Make I don't think so he just kind of has

806
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: to think. He does whatever he wants. He just has

807
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: to turn and see it and then create Yeah. Okay,

808
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: like you can try to just take it right up

809
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: the middle.

810
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: He can try that. Now he gets to the outside

811
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: and watch Joey Porter Junior shuts that off. And that's

812
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: one thing you want to see Joey Porter Junior on

813
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: some special team stuff. He probably didn't do any at

814
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: Penn State.

815
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: I would think not maybe is his freshman year, maybe

816
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: or maybe just practice, you know who knows.

817
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: But he's got to be able to at least be

818
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: valuable on kickoffs. Yeah, you would hope he could do some. Yeah,

819
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: so this is this is good training for him. Nice

820
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: job there By seventeen on defense at is I don't

821
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: even see a seventeen on defense here where we at here.

822
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a young corner by that's treating that

823
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: Thompson the new corner.

824
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: They signed yesterday. Bird the returner though I mentioned him earlier.

825
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: He's a short little guy, but he's got quick feet.

826
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: He's got quick Yeah, but Simpson got down there quickly,

827
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: so like forty.

828
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: Eight there, and again, you're not trying to kill these guys,

829
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit hard, that's Rochet, especially as

830
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: that middle guy. You're probably the one making the tackle,

831
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: especially in this scenario. But it's hard to chop your

832
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: feet and sink your hips and gather yourself when you're

833
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: running full speed forty yards down fifty yards downfield. And

834
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: Roche struggled with that a little bit on that play.

835
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, her big did a nice job there.

836
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, staying at home and gather yourselanding his feet stopped

837
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: and boom, make the tackle. Run like a crazy man. Yeah.

838
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: Killer is really good at Yeah, that's that's how that's

839
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: his bread and butter.

840
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: You could just tell the off that rep why he's

841
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: employed as an NFL player. Patient, like time is it perfect,

842
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: don't overrun the play. Let it happen.

843
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: Let the guy make all the moves he's gonna make, and.

844
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: Right and for the kill, then go get him right.

845
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Austin being shifty there.

846
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a handful. But I don't know who's seventeen is.

847
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: I can't find it.

848
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: That's Trenton Simpson. That's okrent Thompson. I should Thompson Trenton Simpson.

849
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: That would be a coup since he's in camp with

850
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: the Ravens.

851
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, stealing from the rival. Throw this roster.

852
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's the cornerback that they signed you, or

853
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: safety that they signed you.

854
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: What his contained there could have been better and you

855
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: could see he's hanging his head. I'm sure he got an.

856
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: Air force again getting he got downfield too quickly. He's

857
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: over anxious to go make that play, and you can't

858
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: be over anxious, so you have to stay in your lane.

859
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: It's very much a balancing act. Yeah, yeah, just because

860
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: you do want to scream down there as fast as

861
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: you can. But can you drop your feet and change

862
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: directions things like that? Yeah, I don't want to be

863
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: a straight line athlete.

864
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: Doing a little different drill here.

865
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Now we've say, I don't know what this stoll about.

866
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: The kickers and punters are out there with pads on

867
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: or the long snappers I should say long snappers and

868
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: punters that have pads, which.

869
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Means they're just gonna be crash test stummies. Yeah, they're like.

870
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: Those are shields basically. And so there's there's two sets

871
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: of those guys out there, and now we've got the

872
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: punt returners back.

873
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: And they've got shields. They've got shields too. I haven't

874
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: seen this one getting creative here. Everybody's got shields. I

875
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: guess they're playing the I'm trying to figure out what's

876
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: going on the twenty five yard line too, because there's

877
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: I assume those are going to be like your gunners,

878
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: but they're not asking them to run all fifty.

879
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: This is more kickoff type stuff. Yeah, they're swimming through

880
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: it and kind of break.

881
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: This is gonna be two different drills. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

882
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: this is more kickoff stuff. So they close to the kicker.

883
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: The guys who are working against the two jammers are

884
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: they're either you know, they're fighting through a ducking under,

885
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: through the through the blocks and coming up like they're okay,

886
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: now I'm through, I gotta see I gotta find Now.

887
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: I gotta go do my responsibility. I did job I

888
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: did job one. I got through the first layer. Now

889
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go hunt.

890
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are this is kick return because you've got

891
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: you've got Anthony McFarlane back there along with Russell and

892
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: eighty more eighty four JaMarcus Bradley, So those would be

893
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: your kick return. Okay, guys here, So Bradley is an

894
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: eager fellow. Yeah he was. He was first up in there.

895
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was supposed to be the case.

896
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: You would think McFarlane would take the first reps in that.

897
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: It looks like Gunner back there as well.

898
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: But in a way, this kickoff front line coverage drills

899
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: a lot like pass rushing or getting off a jam

900
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. You're you're seeing you know, up

901
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: and under moves and rips and things like that. They

902
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: try to get through these two. You know, it's kind

903
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: of weird to see tight ends and wide receivers, you know,

904
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: dip it and ripping.

905
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I mean, that's not a skill set

906
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: that they use.

907
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: It as don't do it right, Yeah, they just don't

908
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: do it like a.

909
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: Guy like her Big for example, who just did a

910
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: rep that's natural for him.

911
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like he explodes off line scrimmage

912
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: a couple of steps into the into the rep. He's

913
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, taking on a tackle and trying to beat them.

914
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, split the difference there, and you know, just get

915
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: through it. But you got to be able to fight

916
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: through it. You can't get stuck on that block. It's

917
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: almost you know, they're almost getting It's a Derome Bettis like,

918
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: get skinny in the hole. Yeah, slid.

919
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of these guys are getting their shoulders parallel

920
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: to the sidelines. Yeah, just to get his not the.

921
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: Hit, that's what That's what Bettis used to call. Get skinny,

922
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: Get skinny in the hole, like he's a skinny guy.

923
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: Drum you're never gonna get.

924
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: It's funny coming out of his mouth, right, But.

925
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 3: That's what he would call it. And he was as

926
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 3: good at us as anybody. Yeah, had those quick feet

927
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: for such a big man, soft and it's just very

928
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: it's hard to explain to people if they had if

929
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: they never saw Jerome Bettis run, you just look at

930
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: him and say, oh, he's a power runner.

931
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: Which he was, but there's some ballerina. But he was nimble, yeah,

932
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: very much so, which is what made him special. They're

933
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: doing the same thing, but they'm running at the opposite direction,

934
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: but this time they're not splitting the double team. They're

935
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: taking it on the taking it outside right, So it's

936
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: just a little bit different take on this. On the

937
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: same drill.

938
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: That situation again, you're you're using that like a pass

939
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: rusher where you're getting the shoulder.

940
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: Through, ripping through shide hand and then ripping through that. Yeah,

941
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: and again, some of the the edge guys will do

942
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: it well the offensive they just don't have to do

943
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: that ever, may never have until they got here. But

944
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Cody White looks like he's done it before. I'm sure

945
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: he has.

946
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: And that's how a guy like him could make this roster.

947
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: You know, you start weighing it, you know, for that

948
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: for that fifth or six receiver spot, and you say, okay,

949
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: if somebody else, if Gunner isn't your return guy, could

950
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: it be White? Yeah, who's more valuable to your team?

951
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: Is White?

952
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: Who's going to run down and cover kicks and that

953
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: nature and isn't going to hurt you on offense? I

954
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: would think White could return kicks too.

955
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: Probably, I mean probably, I'm guessing right, A bigger body guy.

956
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: In fact, one of the one of the best returners

957
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: that I remember h since I've started covering.

958
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: The Steelers was a big receiver David Dunn. Do you remember, Oh.

959
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like two thirty five. He was a

960
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: big but he just thick.

961
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: He took the kickoffs and he went straight up field.

962
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't even super fast, No, he had Once he

963
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: built up speed, he hit the seam and he was gone.

964
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: And he was tough to get down on the old

965
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: field like that. I mean force an arm tackling four

966
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: sequels and he had a lot of m Yeah, and

967
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: he was quick with his a to be decisive, you know,

968
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: And that's the key to be decisive.

969
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't start dancing east. Once you start going sideways

970
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: on the kickoff, you're done.

971
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: They're done, right.

972
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: You can do some of that on punt returns.

973
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, elusiveness is better there. You just want to

974
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: get down to kick returns. You want to just get up,

975
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: get up field. And that's why you have some of

976
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: the bigger body guys running back types, because you have

977
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: a better chance of break in the arm tackles once

978
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: you get rolling.

979
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're gonna take another break here with the Steelers

980
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: still have two more sessions remaining. I believe, I know

981
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: they're going to at least four to ten today, So

982
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: we will make sure we're back for those two minute

983
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: offense drills here at the end of practice. He is

984
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,719
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985
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,920
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986
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