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Speaker 2: Let's get it. Ye man, it's a bunch of shit

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Speaker 1: Bro exacting, I got I gotta say this for a

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Speaker 2: The youn't even say ship.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that the son's owner was a cool dude. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got it well.

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Speaker 3: I think in the moment he was. He was really

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Speaker 3: like even though he's an owner, he's got billions of dollars,

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Speaker 3: Like you're sitting court side, like this is a dream.

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Speaker 3: sure you know what I mean. So he's watching. He

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Speaker 3: But I think Jokis took a page out of his

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Speaker 3: what I mean, come on, man, from owners and players.

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Speaker 3: So but but but to your point, kg I talked

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Speaker 3: I just feel like fans feel so entitled these last

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Speaker 3: crazy because and yok had said this, the NBA protects

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Speaker 3: I understand at it at times, but you got to

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Speaker 3: the players. And it's not so much protect us from

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Speaker 3: then we having to react and handle that situation.

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Speaker 1: So then the league expects the player to be in

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Speaker 1: controul all of themselves in an emotional right exchange right,

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Speaker 1: The players gotta they gotta y'all gotta keep y'all cool

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Speaker 2: In everyday life.

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Speaker 1: Bro, if you if you know, if cause an effect effect, thought,

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Speaker 1: I'm just glad I sat here and I thought, Man,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you had a Dylan Brooks in this situation,

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't, I didn't go there, but I just

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Speaker 3: gott think Joker elbowed the Moors had some flavor, it's

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Speaker 1: You can see them like you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they huh?

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Speaker 3: The complexion interprotection.

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Speaker 3: That game, and it took away from the greatness on

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Speaker 1: And I love that the league was able to put

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Speaker 3: Today's owner is dressed like dressed like Nate.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing the big man get back to a dominance

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Speaker 2: The climb of Dame Lillard and the.

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Speaker 1: I feel like evolving it though. Man, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Real shit.

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Speaker 1: I saw I saw it the euro nigga from the

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Speaker 2: I was like, you won't fuck?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know to your point when you

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Speaker 3: what I mean? And be Joker and a d are

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Speaker 1: But let me also say that if those three guys

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Speaker 1: He can't just be Diesel. He just can't be Matombo.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Phoenix, and I don't mean a go like this,

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Speaker 3: European game was so far ahead of our game from

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Speaker 3: you can't be just a one trick and you can't

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Speaker 2: Now, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be aby to guard on a reimed and

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Speaker 1: then if you're big and you can't go dribble handoff,

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Speaker 3: Then move your feet because we're switching everything.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do.

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Speaker 1: They doing pick and rolls today. Get the matchups, the

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Speaker 1: And I think the European game came into play because

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Speaker 1: Now you understand what I'm saying, Like, Bro, Joker's too good.

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Speaker 1: He's too good. He's like guys like that. You can't

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Speaker 2: These guys are going to adjust.

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Speaker 2: Post, you're the post to score the ball. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Just what I'm saying. But DeAndre Ayton, mister Ayton, you're

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Speaker 3: But it's between his ears, and you know, that's what

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Speaker 3: You've seen him bypass Chris Paul when Chris is trying

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Speaker 3: Didn't he domination? Dominating? Dominating? You know, so you're giving

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing Joker come down giving you nine jebbles hook

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Speaker 1: some of those dynamics, but he also has a lot

436
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,120
Speaker 1: of z Bo. He doesn't have great lift, so he's

437
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 1: always initiating first. The hardest thing about z Bo was

438
00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 1: the initial hit in your chest.

439
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 2: Man Zebo was.

440
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 1: His greatness was that when he knew he wasn't getting

441
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 1: the ball, he would initiate the wrestle.

442
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: And if you wasn't inclined to a.

443
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 1: Real fucking wrestle, like when you gotta grab it, and

444
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 1: it's like in the clubs, like straight up bear shit.

445
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: I swear to god, bro, if you wasn't ready to

446
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 1: be on something like what's up? Look like, if you

447
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 1: were ready, bro, Zebo would actually grab you, kick you up,

448
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 1: and he was just strong enough to move you enough

449
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 1: to where he.

450
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 2: Would just and then he would seal you.

451
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 1: And anything that came off the rim like this, he

452
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 1: would even grab it left hand and then he was

453
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 1: always using the rim and he was That's how Joker plays.

454
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 1: If I'm having a guard Joker right now, Bro, the

455
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: first thing I'm gonna do, I'm gonna initiate the fight early.

456
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 1: As soon as you take it out and you're you're

457
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: trailing man, waiting on you. I'm at the free throw

458
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 1: line at that end, waiting on you, and guess what

459
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'mna bump you little bit. We're gonna

460
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: run up together. I'm'na bump a little bit. I'ma able

461
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 1: to smell your clone, your half spray.

462
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: Pump you a little bit.

463
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 1: By the time we get to a three point line,

464
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run back because I got some responsibilities. As

465
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 1: you're going to pick a roll boom, we gonna We're

466
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 1: gonna go in the pick and roll together. I'm gonna

467
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 1: walk through that, and I'm calling, hey, go under us,

468
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: did gorgo?

469
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 2: Come on? If I got a show, I'm gonna show early.

470
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 2: But I'm not.

471
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 1: I gotta switch it up next time I come down.

472
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 1: I may let him run give him something, but five

473
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 1: get take one like you can. You cannot give him

474
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: the same thing because guess what he's doing. Joker is

475
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: so smart. He letting you come down. He let you initiate.

476
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 1: He's like a CounterPunch. He let you swing from boom

477
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: bab Did he adjust it so in that either you

478
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: gotta mix it up, initiate and then in the office event,

479
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh nah, we're finna run. I'm finna see how good

480
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: of shape you are. Finna get down here first I'm

481
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna be big cake, give it a mother again. I

482
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: didn't get it this time. I'm gonna be setting hard picks.

483
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: Rolling hard, like when you're doing the screens.

484
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 2: So he has to run to like, yeah, this, this

485
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: is the coolness.

486
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 1: I ain't really don't want to be out here. It

487
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 1: ain't he picking up on that. You know, joker ain't

488
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 1: really poking the bear. He ain't initiating uh ad, He

489
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: ain't getting him hot on nothing. He just down here

490
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 1: pushing him here, get push rebell, lay it back up

491
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: and go back down. He ain't mean mugging Lord. He

492
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. He letting the sleeping dogs sleep,

493
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: let him sleep.

494
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 4: So let me ask you, this is your greatest gift? Defensively,

495
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: you would say personally more psychological or physical, because you

496
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 4: set at both here.

497
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: So my my greatest gift would be my education. I

498
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: was prepared to play Matt, I was prepared to play Listen.

499
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: I used to always.

500
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 1: I got this from Sam Mitchell and Terry Porter. Terry

501
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: Porter taught me to say, look on, you'll match up.

502
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: This who you this? Who you?

503
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: These are the guys you're gonna play because the guy

504
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: come off the bench. So these are two guys, but

505
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to switch. And a lot of times

506
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: you're switching with these Steve goutys, so you gotta know

507
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: what they do. So if you get in the one

508
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: four pick and roll and you switch and we switch

509
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: it at night and you don't know what the guard does,

510
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: you're fuck. You know what I'm saying, and that education

511
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: is everything. So I would go into the game knowing

512
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: at least four five motherfucker's whoy I had the guard

513
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: and what they A and B move and what was

514
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: they kind of tendencies and stuff. That's that was my gift.

515
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: And then the ability to take what I know and

516
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: then use it. I may after practice, I may grab

517
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: Matt or teammates said, let me let me go with

518
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: something cause I got to Timmy of them got this

519
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 1: pick where they come up and they on strong SHOWE.

520
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: They come up and they get a back pick and

521
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: he has lob. Well, I gotta be responsible. He goes

522
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: over the top. I need to I need to see it.

523
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: So I would go over that and it's like what

524
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: you're doing. I'm like, man, I'm going through.

525
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 3: Some I think that's what may not to cut you

526
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 3: off to me playing against him for so many years,

527
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: his greatest gift was his mind. You know, he was

528
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: blessed with the physical ability and worked his ass off

529
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: to fine tune that. But to me, his mind and

530
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: his motor, you know, like you said, as simple as knowing.

531
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 3: We're not saying they don't know the Scounding report, but

532
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: just knowing the Skynd report like the back of your hand,

533
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 3: and not just the two guys you're gonna guard, because

534
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: like you said, this, now more than ever, you got

535
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: to know the whole fucking Scott line it because you're

536
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: switching everything and competitiveness. Bro, that the dog, the motor,

537
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: and the smarts to me, because the athlete, you know,

538
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: the skill set you already have. But just the way

539
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: you thought the game, the way you approached the game,

540
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: the ship you would do with all that shit was

541
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: mind and it made you that much more effective physically.

542
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: Bro, to lock a nigga up in the league says

543
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: something about you, because you're not just physically locking somebody up. Mentally,

544
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: you have this person can't even think straight on the

545
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: pattern of the moves that he has, what he's going

546
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: to do when you get the ball, When you have

547
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: miska bobulated a professional bro. That's bro. That's a different

548
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: level of influence. And that's all I'm saying. And I'm

549
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: not expecting Aiden to come out here and and and

550
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: and get any of this. This is obviously over years

551
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: of educating me, having a hunger, but being competitive. Sometimes

552
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: being competitive, we're actually even you out. That's all I'm saying.

553
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's gonna have to give him something different.

554
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: He's the fucking MVP for a reason, and when you're

555
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: dealing with talent like this, you have to attack in

556
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: different ways. I actually think Phoenix should actually make somebody

557
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: else on Denver beat them. But it's over now. I

558
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: feel like Denver has confidence now. Every last player on

559
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: there has confidence and they're pissed off and they're playing like.

560
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: It does My question to you, does aid and learn

561
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: from this?

562
00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Listen?

563
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: He learned from it? Will he apply it next year? Okay?

564
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: Look at the playoffs? He served me. He was doing

565
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: this this, and that I could. I didn't really get

566
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 3: this off I gave him. Will he will he be

567
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 3: that to me? I think that I think Phoenix wants

568
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: to know that too. Will he learn because we were

569
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: just talking off air, before we started. Sacramento is going

570
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: to learn so much from what happened to Golden State? Absolutely,

571
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Well, Aiden, as a professional

572
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: who is one of the highest paid players on his team,

573
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: a go to guy that they need to move forward,

574
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: will he learn from this experience from him getting his

575
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: ass busted and will it make him work harder be

576
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: more prepared next season?

577
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: That is to say that, that would be the billion

578
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: dollar question. And I think that, and I hate to

579
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: say that. I think he has time to be able

580
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: to be whatever he wants.

581
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: The plenty of time, and he has a skill set.

582
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: I think he said he could be whatever he wants.

583
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: He could be average, or he could push the brounds

584
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: of being an all star every year and being a

585
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: go to type guy.

586
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: He can be on the team by hisself and be

587
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: a twenty five and fifteen.

588
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: Guy easily easy.

589
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about easy money, you know what I'm saying.

590
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: Like all defense if you want to, because he run,

591
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 3: he can jump, he can block shot, yes, and.

592
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: When he's engaged, he's one of our better fives in

593
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: the league.

594
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: Real ship.

595
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: He can go to four, you understand, no question. But

596
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on him, like we're all asking us,

597
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: can he and then has he? You would think that,

598
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, being incentivized with a better contract a lot

599
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: more money would actually.

600
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: Help, you know what I'm saying.

601
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: But you know, does he listen? Who If you're not

602
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: going to listen to Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker.

603
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: My answer is no, That's what I was getting.

604
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: If you're not going to listen, is there someone in

605
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: his ear that he listens to and respects enough and

606
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: knows the game that can like give him this kind

607
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: of like maybe that should be your little brother.

608
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

609
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: I've actually been down this road with him. I tried

610
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: to do a uh about five years ago. I was

611
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: during this training training session with all the young guys

612
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: Mobamba Jared Jackson Jr. And he was supposed to be

613
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: one of them, and yeah, he just didn't show up.

614
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, ain't embarrassing, but you know we didn't

615
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: get to work out.

616
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: And then yeah, yeah I didn't. I didn't circle back.

617
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: But in that it was kind of now I'm getting

618
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: the worms of what what what the day to day

619
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: is for everybody that's in Phoenix, And you know, sometimes

620
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: you know young guys are immature. Let's just be one

621
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: hundred and that's okay. It's okay because you're going to progress,

622
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: you want to get better, and you're going to mature

623
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: at some point, right, So that's what we are with it.

624
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think that, uh, this is on eight.

625
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Eight wants to get better.

626
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: He has to be real with himself in the mirror.

627
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: Look at film. Film does not lie. And then you

628
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: know what, it's here for you to get better. You're

629
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: not out of the league, you don't. You don't have

630
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: to do any of this. But if you want to

631
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: be better, and if you want another nice contract, and

632
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: if you want to be able to live this beautiful

633
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: life that you've created for yourself, bro, you gotta better yourself.

634
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can get two more contracts if you want, man.

635
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: Bro, he can actually man. Listen, I see Phoenix. I

636
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: don't see Phoenix sitting around with this though. No, he's

637
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: he's a He's an asset where you can go and

638
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: get assetts back.

639
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

640
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: So if he don't want to buy into what they're doing,

641
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: then I think that's time to move on.

642
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: Some other young guys within the league that have kind

643
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: of had some growing pains in the postseason.

644
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks and Jordan Poole come to mind as well.

645
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: On top of the eight, Matt, you kind of dropped

646
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 4: some jokes with us yesterday kind of talking about, you know,

647
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: the vets kind of teaching the young guys the way,

648
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: but how much of this is kind of a little

649
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: on their own in their own journey of learning this

650
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: ship on their own, Because there was probably a point

651
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: in time in your career where there was an e

652
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: vet maybe pulling you to deside to tell you some

653
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: stuff you had to learn on your own.

654
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: You always got a vet. You always got a vet.

655
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: Now what's different now?

656
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: Then you know whether you want to hear the vet out?

657
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: And then that vet may be a fucking assistant coach

658
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: or Nigga up Stands or somebody that you don't even know,

659
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: but he a real one. Hey, mad let me how

660
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: did you for a second? Yeah, And then he'd be like, man,

661
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't really want to hear this, but he's saying

662
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: some real ship and that's how I really did go.

663
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, you got applied, bro, Bro, You know what's

664
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: crazy with all that?

665
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: Shit.

666
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: When they was talking that shit, was nobody right there

667
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: to say nothing. Everybody was win it, we was within it.

668
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Then you got beat. Then everybody ran. Didn't want nobody.

669
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: Here, They didn't want to smoke, so did nobody.

670
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: Wants So that's the answer here.

671
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: If ain't nobody gonna say nothing when it's all cool,

672
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: then when why would somebody say SOMETHINGE is fucked up?

673
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: And that's your answer.

674
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: What's the root of it that you guys think? Do

675
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: you just think it's society now? Do you think it's

676
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: just people? Social media?

677
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: Social media?

678
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, I think I think everything is is

679
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: a show, now, you know what I mean? And it

680
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: starts down in grassroots for I'm coaching kids and and

681
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: you know, you'll lose or see a team lose, and

682
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: you'll see a highlight reel from the game and I'm

683
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: just like, y'all just lost or we just lost. Like

684
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: but that the mindset is always having to put on

685
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: a show, always having to do something. And I think,

686
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: and it's hard for us to speak on it because

687
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: we kind of caught the tail.

688
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: End of it.

689
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't like we knew like shit if we

690
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: were gonna go out and show this or it's gonna

691
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: be a problem like winteror like we took losses more

692
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: s like now it's just like the fuck we played

693
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: a bad game, but I played with you know, it's

694
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: almost like kind of that. I don't even want to

695
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: call these guys tepic because I don't know him like that,

696
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: but it comes off as like I did what I

697
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: was supposed to do. But then, like you said, when

698
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: you don't stand on your shit, you know what I mean?

699
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: Like I had no issue what Dylan Brooks is saying

700
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: who he was even I didn't give a fuck he

701
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: was talking to Lebron like that, like that's dope. Like

702
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: you have enough courage, top, but you got to stand

703
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: on it. Don't just talk when shit is going good

704
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: when shit is going bad, and so when the stuff

705
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: starts going bad, and now you don't want to talk

706
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: to the media. Now you want to say the media

707
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: is making you a vielain and the fans are doing this,

708
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: this and that. But just the whole season you were

709
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: dancing and bopping and doing and talking and ipoke bears

710
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: and I don't respect no one and Draymond ain't shit.

711
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: Stand on that because you're gonna get more respect for

712
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: standing on it and being wrong, but standing on what

713
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: you do instead of doing some shit and then running

714
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: from it once the smoke hits, you know, and congratulating

715
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks, I mean, second team. All the NBA is

716
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: no that that's dope joke, and he's definitely gonna find

717
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: a home. But to me, I just and I asked

718
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: Tick about this with Aiden, do you learn from this?

719
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: You have to learn from it because we all did

720
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: stuff when we were younger that we're not proud of.

721
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: Luckily there wasn't social media, so now all the young

722
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: dumb shit you do is for the world to see,

723
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: and they get this. You paint this picture of who

724
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: they think you are. So now do you learn from

725
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: your mistakes. I'm never telling Dylan brook to change the

726
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: way he plays. I'm just saying, if this is what

727
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna be about, you got to stand on it, bro,

728
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: you got to stand on it. I'm not telling Jordan

729
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Poole is one of the hardest working, most skill I

730
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: mean I got to see it up close and personal,

731
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, in practic like this dude works his ass off.

732
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: But then you just see that you know, obviously we

733
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: can't speak to the dynamic between him and Draymond because

734
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: we don't really know what that is now. But obviously

735
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: get knocked out is going to fuck the dynamic up.

736
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 3: But you don't want to hear from Staut. I mean,

737
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: you got the blueprint in front you with the Splash Brothers,

738
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You got two of the

739
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: greatest shooters to ever live. You get to see them

740
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: every like, I don't understand. I don't know if he

741
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: appreciates how lucky he is to have that on a

742
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: day to day basis like this, These are the greats.

743
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: These guys are going to the Hall of Fame. These

744
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: are two of the greatest shooters to ever do. And

745
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: I get to work with these guys and bump with

746
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: them and do this and learn from every day. I

747
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: don't know if these younger guys are soaking in and

748
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: appreciating what's going on. And then, like we were talking

749
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: about earlier, we really had those vets that will pull

750
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: you to the side and check you whether like you said,

751
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: whether the guy is playing, whether he's not. But it

752
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: was someone that you did that you would respect, like

753
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: when he said he's you said, Sam Mitchell was one

754
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: of your great best right. He wasn't an all star,

755
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: no superstar, but he earned the respect of one of

756
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 3: the greatest players of all time, you know what I mean.

757
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: So it doesn't always have to be a superstar pulling

758
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: to the side. It could be someone that did just

759
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: you respect him because he's about his word, he's about

760
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: his business. And I had that kind of respect for

761
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: younger players. I was never the best player, and I

762
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: bounced from team to team, but I led like when

763
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: I believe I led, but I'll run through a wall.

764
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: I'll do everything you need to do to win. So

765
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 3: when I spoke to these younger players to be all right,

766
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: oh do I feel you, and you would see carryovers.

767
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: So when we talked on our show yesterday, it's just like,

768
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: when we talk about these young players, it's not to

769
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: disrespect or we're older players trying to shit on these

770
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: younger players and they're getting like, that's never our approach.

771
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: Our approach is if we're in the locker room, we

772
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: would tell you this to your face and your eyes,

773
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: man the man. It would never get to the media.

774
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: It would be me pulling like, bro, come on, we

775
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: got to clean that up. You're too important. For this team.

776
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: You can't be doing that. You can't be you know

777
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: what I mean that there was stuff that someone told

778
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: us before, so we would tell with that. That's why

779
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: I like in Memphis, I guess it's not Steven Adams

780
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: because they ran through that. I feel like Draymond kind

781
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: of lost his way as a leader, and I think

782
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: he gained it back, but I don't know if he'll

783
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: there's always going to be friction between him and I

784
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: don't even call it friction. It's just it's off and

785
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: you can visially see it. But I just think some

786
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: of these younger players need guidance these days because it's

787
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: just such a different world we live in, and some guys,

788
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: once they get their money, it's hard to tell them anything. Unfortunately,

789
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: it's a.

790
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: Great way to put it.

791
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: None of us saw the Jimmy Butler effect like this

792
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: my Nigga Jimmy Butler Show. Jimmy Butler has simplified the

793
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: fucking game and is willing. He's probably other than Joker.

794
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: He's willing his team. And then I actually think that

795
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: the Heat had a chance to beat the Knicks without me.

796
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

797
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: They are They are active to my. My point to

798
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: you is, isn't he already maxed out All Star? No?

799
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: No, he is, he is.

800
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: But if we're going by regular season ship, Jimmy, Jimmy

801
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: gave us the coast, he gave us.

802
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: A little bit in Southeast, he gave it, then clip

803
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: right the whole ship.

804
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: And then we get to the playoffs, and then I

805
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: got to give up to East post Man. He always

806
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: has his teams ready for that. Lord, I'm going I'm

807
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: going to Vincent. I'm going and true say he's you know,

808
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: he's uh Stockton. You know Vincent is Stockton. I'm saying

809
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: this to say that Miami to me, got like four

810
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: or five guys to where Yeah, yeah, they deserve the stouts?

811
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: Am I saying this name? Right there?

812
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: Stockers up all them, motherfucker. That's about four people in

813
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: the heat that you can go to. You're Calvin Martin,

814
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: the little Lightston care right, he has a twinter, right, Yeah,

815
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: it's like four guys. So I don't even know what

816
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: your list is. But if we see it here and

817
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna say this, we go to Jordan Poole.

818
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes bad games for you to calm down,

819
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Like my problem with him, or at least when I'm

820
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: watching it players perspective, in my opinion, is that he

821
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: just going way too fast, like he needs to take

822
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: her trying to get it all back. He's like like

823
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: he's giving you like he's given you like like three

824
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: folk moves and the guy hasn't even reacted to the

825
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: first move. And I'm like, damn, young fella, just calm damn.

826
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like one beat, one beat

827
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: like he like, and.

828
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, you know, like you on the first one, bro,

829
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: you had him like off the pump, think he went

830
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: second half?

831
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: Would it failed? But then you played the third move

832
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: right back, so he catches back.

833
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: That's that's if if I don't have any issues with

834
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: how the game is being grown, but if it's anything

835
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: that I like put the astrophof on, it would be

836
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: that like some kids are sowing their heads that they

837
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: got they already got the heasy ready, the HEAs he

838
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: is that sho here you could and one move set

839
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: up the next move with set something the next move,

840
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: and yeah, so I look for Jordan Poole to just

841
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: slow down a little bit and get that betro. But Wiggins.

842
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's be honest. Wiggins, his stock is I think

843
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: it's went up a little bit. I think he's been

844
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: engaged with the Lebron matchup. You know, you know, you know,

845
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: typical or let's say traditional Andrew Wiggins would be a

846
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: lot more. You know, it is the playoffs, so you

847
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: got to anticipate him in the thus. But I think

848
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I heard I think I heard Perks say, man, and

849
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: then and and Lebron James is going to dominate Andrew Wiggins.

850
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: And I think he heard that. Man, he heard that

851
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: ship man, you know, man Wiggs out here hooping?

852
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Who else?

853
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Who else? Stocks Gordon, the kid Gordon from Denver? Man,

854
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: what's the brown kid that came from New York? Came

855
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: from Brook Brown man, Bruce Brown.

856
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: And they said he had a problem even finding the team.

857
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: That is crazy, you know.

858
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: He told the coach man, I don't think these I

859
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: don't think these teams know how to use me, and

860
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: coach like, come on now here, I know how to

861
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: use I'm gonna let you lye because he a.

862
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: Great point forward, bro bro.

863
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: The motherfucker point point guard, rebound, turn back around the guard.

864
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: He can be the screener or the ball handling man.

865
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: He is like his stock, like his stock is up. Bro,

866
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: there's like three four guys on Denver that stock is up.

867
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Porter Junior, man, did nobody see this from Porter Junior?

868
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: And he calm with it. He ain't even giving you nothing.

869
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: He just playing good.

870
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's just even he's uh, he's Joe Johnson.

871
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: Yah yeah right on defense is high, nothing high.

872
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: He's just hard to play with. No emotions is the

873
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: fucking art.

874
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: And the place going crazy was like yeah, yeah, so

875
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: who else it's I mean, we can see here and

876
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: go through the whole jone like Austin Reeves reez yeah him,

877
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: mister him, yeah, mister Hill.

878
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: He yeah, yeah.

879
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: He should get a nice contract, and then if I'm him,

880
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't leave the Lakers, even though he's gonna get

881
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: some bigger offers.

882
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 2: He gonna get.

883
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: When he already said like, it's not about the Lakers.

884
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: He's going to get the money.

885
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: Oh he's dumb, yeah you know.

886
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: But but I think it's a great conversation because we've

887
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: seen players in our time too. Some guys. I don't

888
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: ever want to call people system players because I don't

889
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: want it to take away from their talent. But some

890
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: guys are great in certain situations and find out that

891
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: ship ain't the situation you have here, won't be the

892
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: situation you have over here. And some guys, I think

893
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: some guys, that's hard to understand why you're in the moment.

894
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Lane Stevenson was a motherfucking damn all star in d M.

895
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: That nigga took that show on the road, and nobody

896
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: man listen, Memphis Clippers, wherever else he ended up, they

897
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear that ship. But when he went

898
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: back to Indiana, same thing, old depot, only depot in Indiana.

899
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: Oh Man, what.

900
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 3: About something we play with Sean Mariam oh Man. Yeah,

901
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: all that Phoenix is in Phoenix. And then not that

902
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: he didn't do well in Dallas. I mean, I think

903
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 3: they won a championship with him in Dallas, but.

904
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: He wasn't He wasn't like that.

905
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: He was great Phoenix. Yeah, the system was great for

906
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: the way he played the game, you know what I mean.

907
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: So sometimes I think he made a great point with

908
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves, although he already said he's gonna chase the bag.

909
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes a situation is what allows you to flourish and

910
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: show all your ship.

911
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: He gonna find out the Lake Show.

912
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: He gonna find out that bag sometimes it ain't the

913
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: Lake Show guy.

914
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: There and everything that comes with it. You mean the

915
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: great white hire me a white boy that the Lakers.

916
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: They don't get no bigger than that bro you here

917
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: basketball period.

918
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would consider that. He gotta you

919
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, you go ahead, get your money,

920
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: young fella dude the hallways. But I like him as

921
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: a player. He's tough too, Yeah, I like him too.

922
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: And he's confident, you know in this league, man, confidence.

923
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: Is everything everything.

924
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: I want to throw something at you right quick while

925
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: we while we're just chopping man, Let.

926
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Mean, you know the.

927
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: You got you know, I was sitting up and thinking,

928
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: man like, the changing of the guard is coming soon,

929
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: ron ron is you know right, so we're here, it's

930
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: probably gonna play probably a couple by one or two

931
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: more years out of anticipate, right, you know, Next in line,

932
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: man is joh you know, next line is you know,

933
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: Gosh like LaMelo. Uh, you know, obviously we're still in

934
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: the Giannis and Joker and then beat them, not disrespecting them.

935
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the next wave yeah, Man Tatum is

936
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: definitely there. John Luca, Yeah, Luca, I'm gonna put Jenning

937
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Brown in there.

938
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: I want to put a Zion in there.

939
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these players that that's that's up next,

940
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering to myself at one point do

941
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: they have to take these next steps?

942
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: The rain?

943
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

944
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: Man, like Zion, Man, like, how long do you stay?

945
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: Like like when in b It's being did a little

946
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: joint on emb and it took you back to where

947
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: when he got drafted and then not just one but

948
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: two years off and how the Philly fan base just

949
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what, but I guess we were just

950
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: all waiting because we had no choice. But they stayed,

951
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: of course with it. And I'm watching Zion have like

952
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: not like the same, but like the similar, kind of

953
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: like patients with big fellas. I ain't go from Man

954
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: the Duncan in the three sixty and the ship, Like

955
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: what he was doing in the workout bothered everybody and

956
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: he got doubted. Yeah, we didn't want to say nothing

957
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: about it, but it left me thinking, like, man, what's

958
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: his next steps to be able to be consistent on dominance?

959
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: Man, health, obss, the big.

960
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Things because I feel like, is it duals deeper than that? Though? Man, No,

961
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: I think that's the key because we see it and

962
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: you and we know it's people who play the game

963
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: as talented you are. Your first three or four years,

964
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: you don't even understand the NBA game yet. And this

965
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: dude is a breaking field goal percentage records and and

966
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: and putting up zion. I'm talking about putting up all

967
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: kinds of incredible numbers. And he's just doing this off

968
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: of size, speed and athleticism. Like you said with Jordan Poole,

969
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: when you when when the game slows down for and

970
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: you could take a beat and learn the game, it's maturity.

971
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: But then you see the game different too, you know

972
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I think that's what they're waiting for.

973
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: And and and the mbat example got It's funny. I

974
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: said that shit on Instagram not too long ago. Like

975
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: remember the process within B didn't start fast. It took

976
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: a minute to get going.

977
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: It was terrible.

978
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: But now look at what you have, you know what

979
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: I mean. So I think obviously New Orleans had to

980
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: pay them because they're not They don't get stars like that.

981
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: Every time they get a star. He bounces, but they

982
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: have to be patient. But I think if if he

983
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: can get hisself together, he's going to be a special

984
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: I actually shot it. Come. I started commercial with him

985
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: yesterday and that was my first time meeting him in person.

986
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: That's a massive motherfucker. He's just a big kid project.

987
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. How long do you stay.

988
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: With this contract? What do you got a four year deal? Right,

989
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: it's this contract. You got to see what you got

990
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: to show me something in this contract next year? No,

991
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: I mean I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, I mean

992
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you do because you're paying him

993
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: so much money? Like think just and we don't even

994
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: want to speak this this if something happens to him

995
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: where he's not able to play more than half the

996
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: games next year, yeah, I think you like to show

997
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: hopefully next year.

998
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying to you. The Kois designs,

999
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: the Chris Paul's, the Westbrooks. There's a bunch of question

1000
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: marks in the lead to what do you what do

1001
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: you do with these players? Paul George's I think this

1002
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: is his second you're dealing with you know, he had

1003
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: to show them off like, well we we are looking

1004
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: at real question marks, Bro, like, where are we with

1005
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: the question?

1006
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: Why is it? My? I guess my question to you

1007
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: is is is it because there's too much activity?

1008
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: Now?

1009
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: Are these young and outside of TPG thirty eight? Is

1010
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: it this new generation plays too much basketball before they

1011
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: get to the level we're on now and their bodies

1012
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: are more beat up than our bodies were coming in?

1013
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: I mean you played along? Time's time?

1014
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: Practice?

1015
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, practice right?

1016
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: Half the battle practice? What do you do every day?

1017
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: Did Bro? What do you do every day? I come in,

1018
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: I get shot up.

1019
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out. I'm trying to how

1020
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: come these guys like? How come? Is just a consistency

1021
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: of stars being hurt?

1022
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: That's what I guess. That's the question I was trying

1023
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: to get.

1024
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: So to me, does it stem from get before you

1025
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: get to the league, all the all the miles on

1026
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: your body? Is it? Is it too there's too much

1027
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: science into it now? Where if you're always resting when

1028
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: it's time to really go or you not ready to?

1029
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: Like to me, I don't think anyone has the answer

1030
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: this question. But I'm just trying to think as an athlete.

1031
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: I just remember rarely when we played coming into the

1032
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: playoffs that we were. I mean you had you had

1033
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: an injury in the playoffs one time, but rare. Most

1034
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: of the time in your career when it was playoff time,

1035
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: you were ready to rock. You may not have been

1036
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, but you was ready to go and

1037
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: you was gonna play until you either won it or

1038
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: lost it. Now it's just like damn. People are losing

1039
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 3: and the other teams are winning because the stars can't

1040
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: play consistently.

1041
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm asking, how long do you stay with

1042
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: these projects? Too? Bro?

1043
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: You have to play, But the players are taking a

1044
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: year off, players are taking two years off, players are

1045
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: so I don't understand. So this generation is not playing

1046
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: more basketball than our generation.

1047
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: No, I think it's different. I think AU is different

1048
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: to I think, man, these kids are playing.

1049
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: You balled and me, no way, I ain't going. I

1050
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: played in the summer a mouth shot. Ain't no going

1051
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: inside where I'm from. Everybody no grieving more than everybody

1052
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: know me, and is playing on the black They're playing

1053
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: on blacktop all day.

1054
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: Ain't no going home, you know, I ain't ain't nothing

1055
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: to eat at home.

1056
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: We're fin to get out here, put our bread together.

1057
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: We outside water hole, Hamburgers, thy nice and cheeseburger.

1058
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: We out here and we out here at this point,

1059
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm that spring from at Lakeside. Man in Lakeside, I'm

1060
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: over here. I'm we're playing all day.

1061
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: So what is it then? Is the mint mental?

1062
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: Bro?

1063
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: That's I want to know the state of these guys.

1064
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: You know, everybody says they work out in the summer.

1065
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: You know what I and discuss me when I go

1066
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: to the summer league and I look around the fucking

1067
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: summer league on the floor.

1068
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: Of course, second se second league, second, all.

1069
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers that need to be in the man you

1070
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: have if y'all didn't even play a fucking season half

1071
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: y'all didn't even play.

1072
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: Half a season, first, second, third year, go play summer league.

1073
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Man, you got you, Man, I think Man Joe, like, man, listen,

1074
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like.

1075
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: That guy, but it is what it is. Man.

1076
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: Man, if you're wondering, like how long are the these

1077
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: are these projects gonna be projects? Projects? Like at one point,

1078
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: can I actually pay this guy to be a superstar.

1079
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: With responsib Yeah?

1080
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, Man.

1081
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Listen, it's gonna be a bunch of question marks answered

1082
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: this summer, I'm gonna throw eight and in there. What

1083
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: he's displaying right now, this is a complete collapse pool.

1084
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1085
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I heard that. Yeah, move him there because yeah,

1086
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: I don't know how real it was, but I heard

1087
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: that the Warriors had a chance to trade pool Kaminga

1088
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 3: and it was either Wiseman or Moody for Kevin Durant.

1089
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: And they show and out. Like I said, I can't

1090
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: back normally when I tell you shit, I can say

1091
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: like I know for sure, I can't say that for sure,

1092
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: But I heard that because they were just so high

1093
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: on what you know, Jordan Poole came up of the

1094
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: playoffs players, they want a championship. Average seventeen that next

1095
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: step during the season or average twenty in the playoffs.

1096
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: You expect the output to go up, but it hasn't.

1097
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: And I say all that to say, like, think about

1098
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant with this Warrior team.

1099
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a difference.

1100
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: You know, are back with this weird team different, you know,

1101
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: so hey, yeah, I I.

1102
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1103
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: I love the fact that you say it's mental and

1104
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: the fact that these guys are getting a lot of

1105
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: money now, so maybe they are just comfortable, comfortable with

1106
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: the money.

1107
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Wow, so you're not hungry anymore. Kind of like an

1108
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: nil question that you asked.

1109
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: Man, Bro when you get the bag, put off the

1110
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: gas man listen. I always say, man, you know, if

1111
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: you want to see if somebody really want it, man,

1112
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: give him everything he wants.

1113
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: See if he still.

1114
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: Works, see if you still wake up so far.

1115
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it A.

1116
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: Now y'all know what it is, man, it's the picks

1117
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: up the wig. Let's go Sunday Sunday Game seven, got

1118
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: damn for all the marbles, seventy sixers in Boston. I

1119
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: do not think that the seventy six ers can put

1120
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: another game together like they did. I think the Celtis winner,

1121
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: I think they do. I think I think Philly challenges

1122
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: them to a point where they have to go to another.

1123
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: Level, and I think they do. So, Yeah, we'll see.

1124
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: Let's get it. And those are the picts of the wig.

1125
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 2: Let's go