1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we are 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: talking about the elephant in the room, or rather the 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: elephant that's not in the room, because we are talking 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: about elephants that aren't elephants. How is this possible? Well, 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: you're about to find out. From a tiny elephant, to 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: an elephant that defies reasonable proportions, to an elephant with 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: a strange superpower. These are all elephants, but they're not 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: actually elephants. Joining me today to talk about these elephants 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: who are elephant Imposts is friend of the show, the 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: audio genius behind Fake Doctor's Real Friends, Boss Level and 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: New one Upsmanship, d J. Danil. Welcome, so thrilled to 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: be back, especially to talk about elephants that are an elephants. Yes, 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: so I love elephants, big old, big old gray and 16 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: brown with the big old trunks, floppy ears. We're not 17 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: talking about those today. They Yeah, we're talking about animals 18 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: who are called elephants, but they are not in fact elephants, 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: and I love that. One of the naming conventions in 20 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: evolutionary biology is like this animal kind of looks like 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: another animal, so we're just gonna put that animal's name 22 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: in this animal's name. Uh So, you know, like rhinoceros beetles, 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: like you're like a rhino. We can't. We ran out 24 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: of names, so now you're getting that name every everybody. 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Everybody's just passing around their names till everything is an 26 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: amalgamation of other names, right exactly. I mean, like, where's 27 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: the creativity why you call like a rhinoceros beetle like 28 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a jungus or something. I don't know. I like that jungus, 29 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: does it has it? I'm horrified to like look that 30 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: up on Urban Dictionary to find out it means something terrible. 31 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I do like that jungus. It's undoubtedly some 32 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: prison drug that you make by doing something doing some 33 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: hard jungus. Um No, I don't endorse doing jungis on 34 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: this podcast. But uh So, the first thing I want 35 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: to talk about is a one of my favorite animals. 36 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: And I I don't know, if you listeners out there 37 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter if you want to, you can. 38 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm not stopping you. Katie Katie Golden on Twitter dot 39 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: org Twitter dot Net. Um. But yeah, I I shared 40 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: with the world the elephant true and uh not to 41 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: toot my own horn, but my tweet did do some numbers. 42 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: People did numbers. It did numbers. People were wild about 43 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: these elephant shrews. Um, And I can't blame them because 44 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm wild about elephant shrews. They are amazing. And I 45 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter if you do want to look up the 46 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: thread I shared elephant shrews yawning, which is the best 47 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: thing you will ever see with your eyeballs, so adorable. 48 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: It is amazing. So elephant shrews are these weird little 49 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: dudes who are found in Africa. Who I guess the 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: best way to describe them is they have the body 51 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: of a mouse and the snoot of an elephant. I guess, 52 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of an abbreviated snoop. Yeah, it's not quite as 53 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: long and wrinkly as an elephant snoop, but it is 54 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: an elongated snoot, so like a little mouse, but if 55 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: you like, pulled on the nose out until you know, 56 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: stretched out a little bit, kind of kind of a 57 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: hoovell shrew. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Uh. And 58 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: there are many different species of elephant shrew. But they 59 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: all have one thing in common. They're completely ridiculous looking, 60 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: and they have a wiggly little snoot. And they also 61 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: so instead of kind of like waddling around on like 62 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: really short feet like I see like uh, I don't know, 63 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: I think um mice uh and kind of have like 64 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: shorter stub your legs, these elephant shrews actually have longer legs. 65 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: So they have this very like kind of almost runaway 66 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: ready sort of long legged strut that I really admire. 67 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: They're really they are. They are models. They are America's 68 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: next top shrew. They are working I believe it is 69 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: called but with the E W E R K I 70 00:04:53,160 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: and so yeah, so they're they're very agile, but their 71 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: faces are incredible. Like I said, there are many different 72 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: species of elephant shrews. They all have like slightly different faces. 73 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: Some of them have like big mouse like ears and 74 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: maybe a slightly shorter nose, although it's still it's still 75 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: long and pointy. Others have really long faces and like 76 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: short and stubby ears. Some of them kind of look 77 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: more like maybe an ant eater. Some of them look 78 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: more like a mouse, but they're all elephant shrews. Adorable. 79 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: They're really super cute. They are super cute. I love 80 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: it when I love the cuteness of animals that have 81 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: kind of strange distinctive feature like this long like tubular 82 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: wiggly nose. It's just it's yea. It gives them a 83 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: uniqueness where it's like, you know, you don't have to 84 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: win me over always with just the puppy dog face, 85 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: big eyes, like you've got a weird wiggly nose. I 86 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: love you, your door. I'm starting to think that long 87 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: wiggly nos is like a positive trait in general. I 88 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: think about my aunt eaters, which also have a very 89 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: long snout or or what will correct me whatever that 90 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: thing is coming off of their face. It is so cute. Yeah, 91 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: it's a long snout. It's so cute. It is very cute. Yeah, 92 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's called. The technical term for 93 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: these things is a proboscis, which is that's a great name. Now, 94 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: that is a good name. I'm glad that we do 95 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: have some creativity and naming things in evolutionary biology, because like, 96 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: what was it like a what did I call it? 97 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: A jungis jungis and then proboscis, I just I like those. 98 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: It's a good word. Yeah, definitely a solid word. Just 99 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: a positive, a positive attribute in the natural space. Big 100 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: snoot bigot fans only I can't think of a big snoot. 101 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't like a pronounced proboscis. Yes, very good and 102 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: uh So these are called elephant shrews, Dan, can you 103 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: guess who they are more related to? Elephants or shrews? Well, 104 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: sho Katie, looking at this picture right here, I'm gonna 105 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, my gut tells me shrew. Yeah, well you 106 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: are wrong. Uh what what that's right? Suck on it? Uh. 107 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: You know my goal here is to humiliate my guests. 108 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: So I've been subverted, played right into my my sweaty hands. 109 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: So the uh if you guessed that the elephant shrew 110 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: is actually in fact more related to the elephant, you 111 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: are correct. As strange as it may seem, these tiny 112 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: shrew like mammals are more closely related to the huge 113 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: elephant than they are too shrews. And again, most most 114 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: of these are little. They're like mouse sized fits in 115 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: your palm. They are also called singis. Uh. They're found 116 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: exclusively in Africa. They are actually more closely related to 117 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: elephants then two shrews. I mean, they're not extremely close 118 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: to elephants. I wouldn't say they're like cousins or anything 119 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: like that, but yeah, just it is interesting. I mean phylogenetically, 120 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: they are closer on that branching tree of life to 121 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the elephant than to the shrew, despite their small size 122 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: and generally shrew like appearance. Very shrew like, yes, but yeah, 123 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: there there are a lot of different species, but they 124 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: all have that long, wiggly nose that they used to 125 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: sniff around and locate insects. And this is nose is 126 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing because it can be moved around, uh, 127 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: to sniff and search and pinpoint prey. So they can 128 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: like wiggle it from side to side. I mean, it's 129 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: got some it's certainly not as versatile and mobile as 130 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: an elephant's trunk, but they can't. They can move it 131 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: and so like like as if you're using a metal detector, 132 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: they're using it as a smells detector. Got it. They're 133 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: sweeping the ground exactly, and so they can find tasty 134 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: insects to eat their insect gang. That makes sense. They 135 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: are tiny, okay, okay, and even though they are not 136 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: really that related to ant eaters. They can use their 137 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: long tongues to flick small insects into their mouths like 138 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: an ant eater, but for bigger bugs, they actually got 139 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: a crunch down with their little mouths. So uh. But 140 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: here's the problem. Because they have that long snoot. If 141 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: they just try to like eat direct like eat it 142 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: off the ground directly in front of them, they're snoop 143 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: walk in and get in the way. It's a problem. 144 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: And so what they have to do is they approach 145 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: it from the side, so they like turn their heads 146 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: and say they've got like a big juicy grub or earthworm, 147 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: and they put it like in the side of their 148 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: mouth like bugs bunny eating a carrot. And then and 149 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: then like they hold it, they pin the prey down, 150 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: the earthworm or whatever with their with their little front paws. 151 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: Like have you ever seen like a dog eating a 152 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: bone and it's got the bone way too much? Literally 153 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: all the time every day. Katie, my little puppy, Kelly, 154 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: she is none on that bone and just like holding 155 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: it down like we're going to take it from her, 156 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Like Kelly go off chew that bone all day long. Yeah, 157 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I know, my dog always acts like I'm jealous of 158 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: the thing that I literally just gave her like five 159 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: seconds ago. She carries it off. Yeah, I just I 160 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: handed it to you and said enjoy, And now you're 161 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: looking at me like I'm going to steal it. Um. 162 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: But that's what these uh, these little elephant shrews do, 163 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: but with like juicy worms. Uh. It's adorable. Uh. And 164 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: then it like apparently they're very messy eaters, so they 165 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: have to like lick up all the crumbs of the 166 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: beetles and grubs that they spill everywhere with their little tongues. 167 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: So just a door bowl I would love. They don't 168 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: eat spaghetti, but I'd love to see one go go 169 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: on and plate of spaghetti and see that, see that 170 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: whole scene. That would be really uh man, it seems 171 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: so daunting for this little shrew, but that would be 172 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: such an adorable trip to see them just like go 173 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: off on some spaghetti, just going with hand on the noodle. 174 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: That's like if I could have like an like one 175 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: free pass for like an unethical thing with in terms 176 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: of animals, it would be to see elephant shrews eat 177 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: a plate of spaghetti, maybe like two of them at 178 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: the same time, and they get one noodle and then 179 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: they kiss like in they kiss in like uh like 180 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: the tramp, but then they like slurk up. The nose 181 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: also gets in their mouth because it's kind of like 182 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: a noodle. You know, that would be really funny. There's 183 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: there's wow. Okay, I love that image. That's very funny. 184 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: So there are two plenty species of elephant shrew. There 185 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of them out there. Yeah, and some 186 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: are small and gray and more miss like, but some 187 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: are larger and they have a different coloration, like they 188 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: can be black in this kind of rusty red color, 189 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: but they all have long, sort of mouse like tails. 190 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: The largest elephant true is the gray faced singy with 191 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: black red and gray coloration, who is about one point 192 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: seven five pounds or point eight kilograms. Uh and including 193 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: the tail, it's over twenty inches long, so fifty six centimeters, 194 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: so you know, like not huge but sizeable. It's relatively significant. 195 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: I mean I was definitely looking at them thinking they 196 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: were tiny, tiny. Yeah, that's that's that's that's larger than 197 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: I thought they were. Okay, that's that's even cuter. Honestly, 198 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: it's very cut But a lot of them are tiny 199 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: so like the smallest elephant trewe species are the short 200 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: eared elephant shrewe, which way about an ounce or twenty 201 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: eight grams and are four inches long or ten centimeters. 202 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: So little guy, popular, little baby. I would get so 203 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: nervous about animals that are too small to even see 204 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: sometimes because they're so cute, but it's like they're so 205 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: prone to us large feet beasts. I would hate. I 206 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: would hate to be just walking around the you know wherever. 207 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: What sorry you said they were in Africa as a 208 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: particular region of Africa they're in. I mean they are 209 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: found in like sort of scrubby, grassy areas. I think 210 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: they're found kind of all over because there's so many species, 211 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: but I think the majority of them are let me 212 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: see here. Uh yeah, I think they're they're found um 213 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: found mostly in the sort of southern parts of Africa. 214 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Uh So, but you know, they're they're like kind of 215 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: different areas that they um inhabits. Sometimes forested areas, sometimes 216 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: more scrubby areas. There's some that live in like more 217 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: of the like arid mountain regions, so a lot of 218 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: different species will have their own niches. But yeah, I 219 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: think they tend to be in the southern regions of Africa. 220 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Got it very cool? Um? Yeah, well, I just would 221 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: hate to see get stepped on by some other large beasts. 222 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: And it sounds like in the southern anges of Africa 223 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: there are some large beasts that they could in fact 224 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: get stepped on by, and I pray for them. Well, 225 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: don't be too worried about them, because they are surprisingly 226 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: good at evading danger and probably easily evade being stepped 227 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: on by you because they are extremely fast. Their legs 228 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: are relatively long for their bodies, and some species, like 229 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: the western rock elephant true which is one of the 230 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: smaller species one of these little mouths like cuties, they 231 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: can run up to seventeen miles or hour or twenty 232 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: eight kilometers an hour. Yes, yeah, those long legs, Yeah yeah, 233 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: those long legs really help them out. The legs really 234 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: do it. Holy smokes. Okay. In fact, certain species of 235 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: elephant shrews will maintain specific roots for themselves by trimming 236 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: grass so like they will create hiking pans or little 237 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: roads for themselves that they can run along. These like 238 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: little running trails, and usually they lead to some kind 239 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: of safety. But this allows them to run without tripping 240 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: over anything away from predators. So, uh, it is really 241 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: cute because these just look like teeny tying mouse roads 242 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and that's essentially what they are. Wow, I have I unfortunately, 243 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: I have more questions. I don't know if this is 244 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is part of the research, 245 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: but like seventeen for a beast, for for a beast, 246 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: for an animal that's small, feels like proportionally super fast. Yes, 247 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: it is like that is so fast right there? It is? Yeah, 248 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: it'd be. I mean I can't God, I don't know 249 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: if I can do the math. But let's say, yeah, 250 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: that's right. As I was saying, I was like, that 251 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: seems like this seems like one of those math problems 252 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: you get in here. So a road to run this 253 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: distance in this amount of time. Let's pretend that I 254 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: did the math and it's like a human running like 255 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: a hundred miles per hour. I don't know that. I mean, 256 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: like honestly, size wise, that feels about right, That seems right. 257 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but I'm going to say, 258 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: like we're we're like maybe a hundred probably more than 259 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: a hundred times bigger than these so times definitely, I 260 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: don't know. That's how math works. Probably that's how math works. Definitely, 261 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: that's how supportive. That's fast fast. Yeah, it's like, not 262 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: only are they really fast runners, but they will like 263 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: design their own running tracks so that it's something's coming 264 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: at them, and they have memorized these tracks the know 265 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: how to run along them, whereas their predator doesn't, so 266 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: they can really quickly zip around and it's it's like 267 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: a super smart thing for them to do. It's really amazing. 268 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: That's incredible. I love that great animal. Yeah, big, big, 269 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: big fan. Actually, their brains, even though they're tiny and 270 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: their brains are small proportional to their body size, their 271 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: brains are relatively large for like when you compare other 272 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: animals their size, So they may be you know, it's 273 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: always difficult to measure a different species intelligence, but they 274 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: may be a little bit um. You know, they've got 275 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: some wits about them. I would suspect brains. I mean, 276 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: look into their eyes, Look into their eyes and tell 277 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: me that they they're not thinking about stuff, planning things, 278 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: making plans, having feelings. And another really awesome little trick 279 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: they have is that at night they go into version 280 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: of brief hibernation called torpoor, so they slow down their 281 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: bodies metabolism, and that way they are able to conserve energy, 282 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: which is really important if you're going to run seventeen 283 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: miles per hour and be so small and need that 284 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: constant diet of insects. So you can basically just put 285 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: yourself in sort of a version of stasis overnight so 286 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: that you're not burning as much of that fuel and 287 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: you can start your day ready to run along, you know, 288 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: put on your tiny little elephant true hiking or running 289 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: shoes and your your little teeny tiny nikes ready to 290 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: go there. Yeah, And in terms of their social lives, 291 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: they're relatively solitary. I don't usually quote Wikipedia, but I 292 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: have to because I found uh this from Wikipedia, Spilling 293 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Spilling the tea about the romantic lives of short eared 294 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: elephants shows let's hear it, the mess they are messy. 295 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: They are. They are toxic and messy. So quote, although 296 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: they live in pairs, the partners do not care much 297 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: for each other, and their sole purpose of even associating 298 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: with the opposite sex is for reproduction. You just got 299 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: red by Wikipedia. Harsh. Just baby, it's just baby making. 300 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: That's come on, there's so much more to life than that. 301 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: I know, Like, are you just going to grow together 302 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: as partners if you're just all about the got to 303 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: have to baby just running away from commitment like they 304 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: run along their little paths that they make explode. Pa, 305 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: got him God roasted, Get read. And then here's an 306 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: adorable family moment for these elephant shrews. Baby elephant shrews, 307 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: once they are weaned off of milk, are fed mashed 308 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: up insects that the female elephant true stores in her 309 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: cheek pouches. Love it a little mommy throw up. Yeah, 310 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: baby food, but man, shoot up worms love it, that's all. 311 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: My mother had chewed up worms. I mean protein, right, 312 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: a lot of protein. You do what you gotta do. 313 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: She said, this is a scoopful of dirt and proves 314 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: your immune system. I was like, hey, you know better 315 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: than I do. I'm a baby. You said that to her? Hey? Did? 316 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: I said, yeah? I deferred to you, mother. I'm a baby. Indeed, 317 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm a baby. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a I can't 318 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: imagine that too. I can see saying that baby. Yeah. 319 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: But I just I love these elephant shoes. They're there. 320 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: They have an audacity to them to even exist like 321 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: this that I love. I respect them for it. I mean, 322 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: the speed is something bad is very is both very 323 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: impressive to me and also kind of like a there's 324 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: a reason that they exist. Still, there's a reason that 325 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: we have these beasts, that that they're able to just 326 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: skiter away from any situation and do so with elegance, 327 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: with grace, also with a plan of the tracks. Amazing. Yeah, man, 328 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: uh no, sorry, an elephant true plan. Yeah, perfect, Yeah, 329 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: we love we love a Paltrow. I've had like, I 330 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: think six of this much water in the last three hours. 331 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: I've resorted to jug life. Have one of those, one 332 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: of those huge analogenes. I need I need a big 333 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: old I need. I need a big old water jug, 334 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: just like I do. I have a backpack for hiking. 335 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: I should just fill that up with water. Yeah, I've 336 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: I've got a camelbag. I should be utilizing that. Throw 337 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: that on. Just sitting there tying, yeah, no, this is 338 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: this is gonna improve my work, my work productivity. How 339 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: does she do it? Constantly drinking water? I'm constantly drinking 340 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: and urinating. That is my whole life now, drinking urinating. 341 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: I've just become a tube. Um, So sadly we must 342 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: move on from the elephant trewe even though I love 343 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: them so much, and talk about the other elephant in 344 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: the room, who, again, not a real elephant. This is 345 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: the elephant nose fish. Boiler alert fans. It is also 346 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: adorable if you want, like a mermaid version of the elephant. True, 347 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: it is the elephant nose fish. Unlike the elephant. True, 348 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: these are a fish, so they're not super related to elephants. 349 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: And you know, oh man, I was ready for you 350 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: to give you the question again. I was gonna be like, Okay, well, 351 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: surely this one that's maybe not related. I mean, I 352 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: didn't look into this, and maybe I should have. But 353 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: I know, like fish are so old and there's so 354 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: many of them that there are some fish I believe 355 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: that are more related to like mammals and other terrestrial 356 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: animals than they are to other fish, because it's like, 357 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's just it's such a like 358 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: there's so many fish and it covers such a huge 359 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: amount of time. Some of them are going to be closer, 360 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: more closely related to us than they are too, like 361 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: some other fish that's way more ancient, way more different 362 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: huh yeah, wow, that is I mean, I I guess 363 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: I guess that tracks. But that also that's still I mean, 364 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: that's still surprised me that I could be swimming out 365 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: there with no fishies and one of them sipers in 366 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: my ear. You know, you're not so different to you 367 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: and I like, yeah, you're my brother from another spawn 368 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: mother YouTube, spawned in a pool of hundreds of your 369 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. Yes, well not really what Yeah, it 370 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: must be weird for fish like you just like you 371 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: poop out the eggs and like spread some fertilizer on them, right, 372 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: and then they make babies something like that. Um, it's 373 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: like me and my bougan Dailia. Yeah yeah, just growing 374 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: a crop of babies. Uh so babies. Yeah. So there 375 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: are so elephant fish. It's not just one species of fish. 376 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: There are many species of elephant fish or elephant nosed fish. 377 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Uh and actually you know, hey, they are also found 378 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: in Africa. They are raith and fish found in fresh 379 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: water river systems in Africa. They are usually gray or 380 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: black or brown. They've got um they're kind of uh 381 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: a longer fish like they're not like sort of the 382 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: chubby type of fish like a goldfish, there's a little 383 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: bit longer. They can grow to be around nine inches 384 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: or twenty three centimeters long, so they're not that's small. Um, 385 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: but they're not, you know, they're not huge. Um. They've 386 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: got like there, uh it's called their dorsal and anal fin. 387 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: It's it's just like a fin that um come. Yeah, 388 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's just the location of the fin um. 389 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: But it forms is kind of like triangle um or 390 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: like this this sort of diamond shape on their back, 391 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: which is that it's pretty neat. It's a pretty neat 392 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: looking fish, all things considered. And then, but the moment 393 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: we've all been waiting for is the newt the proboscis, 394 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: the proboscus Scott. I love saying proboscis. I gotta say 395 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: it like Richard Nixon, the proboscis. Al Right, enough of that, 396 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I guess. Um. So, yeah, they have a long proboscis 397 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: and it looks like this long nose, like they're like 398 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: you took an ant eater and a fish and you 399 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: jumbled their DNA up in some kind of ungodly science experiment. 400 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: But it's not actually a nose, so it sure looks 401 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: like a nose. But it's not. It is actually a 402 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: protrusion of their lower jaw, which actually, now that I 403 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: say it, that is a little more similar to the 404 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: ant eater because the ant eaters whole proboscis, like it 405 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: is not just a nose. Their mouth parts are actually 406 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: located on the end of that long proboscis, as is 407 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: the case for this fish. WHOA So okay, you said. 408 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: You said it's an extension of their lower jaw. That's right. 409 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: So is it kind of like a big old underbyte. 410 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, their mouth does occur like there. So 411 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: some of them their mouths are actually like located closer 412 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: to their face, so it really is just like this 413 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: long protrusion of their lower jaw that like sticks out. 414 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: But then I think that some of them, like their 415 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: mouth is it is kind of closer to the end 416 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: of that weird underbite, so like some of them have 417 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 1: more of like the tube mouth with like just like 418 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: little mouth parts on the very near the tip, and 419 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: some of them just have like this long underbite, more 420 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: of a Jim Carrey in the mask situation. But it 421 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: got it. Yeah. Oh, and I should say that there 422 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: is another species. There's another fish that is called an 423 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: elephant fish, but it is not related to these elephant 424 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: uh nose fish. So like, um, the Australian ghost shark 425 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: is sometimes called the elephant fish, but unrelated. Um. And 426 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't I don't quite agree with calling them an 427 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: elephant fish because I don't think they look as like 428 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: an elephant as as these guys do. But it does 429 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: have does have kind of like a long, like weird, 430 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: long twirly proboscus. So I guess that's why, uh it's 431 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: called that. But yeah, no, these are elephant nose fish 432 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: elephant fish, but they are unrelated to the Australian ghost shark. Okay, cool, 433 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: a ghost shack, but that that proboscis right, that extension 434 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: of their lower jaw. It has a name, and it's 435 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: a good one. It is called the sna An organ. Yeah, 436 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: now an organ. Man. If I had to guess the 437 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: country of origin on that one, it's French. No, yeah, 438 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: so it is called the schnells An organ. I am 439 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: really hoping this is actually what it's called, not like 440 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: some elaborate prank by the study authors of these biology papers. 441 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: It's like, if we call it a sns an organ, 442 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: can we convince podcasters that out, like just as it's 443 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: a real name and not just like some undergrad is. 444 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm just going to call it now as an 445 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: organ and see if anyone notices. Someone had a lot 446 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: of fun at the lab that day, Like, hey, you 447 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: think I think we can just we can just slip 448 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: this by, right. I feel like that's like most of 449 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: how these names and evolutionary biology come to be. It's 450 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: just like someone like slipping a word into a paper 451 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: to see if anyone notices I call this Schnells an 452 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: organ proboscis exactly. So, yeah, the schnell is an organ 453 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: as well as other parts of these elephant fish body 454 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: is actually covered in electro receptors, which will be really 455 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: important information about one minute from now. But first we 456 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: got to talk about the elephant fishes. But because it 457 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: generates a weak electric field with that but it Yeah, 458 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean, so to be clear, elephant fishes don't really 459 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: have a but like humans do in its tail like 460 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: at the back side of it. It has this special 461 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: electric organ that generates a weak electric field. Huh, so 462 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: what is the what is the purposes said electric field? Yeah, 463 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: this is really interesting. So by generating this weak electric pulse. 464 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: It can create like it's creating like this field around itself, 465 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: and then that field interacts with objects that gets in 466 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: its way, so like it could be some smaller fish, 467 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: it could be a rock, whatever it's gonna like bump 468 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: into this electric field. And remember how I said that 469 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: it has electro receptors as well. Now it can sense 470 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: its own electric field, and when something disrupts it, this 471 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: fish knows that something is there. So it's a form 472 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: of being able to detect its environment even in low visibility. 473 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: So it can detect its prey, it can detect plants, 474 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: it can detect stickles. It's kind of like in a 475 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Lucy Goosey way. It's kind of like how bats will 476 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: use their their sonar, yeah, sure, where they like send 477 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: out a pulse of sound and then the location location 478 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. They send out the signal and then 479 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: when it comes back to them, they are able to 480 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: tell like, hey, this is uh, there's something there. Now 481 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: this is slightly different because instead of it like you know, 482 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: they they these fish kind of detect the disturbance in 483 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: the field, a disturbance in the force around them, and 484 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: they can sense that and use that to hunt or 485 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: also to avoid obstacles or avoid predators. Wow, that's really 486 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, first of all, amazing love to have 487 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: a little force field. That's dope. Yeah, So I guess my, 488 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: I guess. My next question is do they share a 489 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: trait with the elephant true of being pecularly fast? Because 490 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: once they get that data, what do they do with it? 491 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Are they I think that they are. I mean, I 492 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: don't know if they are particularly fast compared to other fish, 493 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: but they do have an advantage because if they are 494 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: in sort of low visibility, like something is kind of 495 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: silty or like in these sort of freshwater systems, you 496 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: may often have some some silt or debris, and so 497 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: if they are in this environment and you can't really 498 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: see very well with your eyes, they are going to 499 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: have a an advantage where they can zero in on 500 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: their prey avoid obstacles, whereas, like you know, their prey 501 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: like smaller fish or invertebrates, may not be able to 502 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: see so well. And so this is actually it's interesting 503 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: because this is actually the same technique used by platypus. 504 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: Is so uh yes. So they also use electro reception 505 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: where they can detect the weak electric activity of of 506 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: their prey. And they also live in sort of silty 507 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: freshwater environments where they there may be low visibility. And 508 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: so it's really interesting you have two completely unrelated animals 509 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: both using a similar system so that they can hunt 510 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: for prey, avoid obstacles when they are in this kind 511 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: of like muddy silty situation. Perfect. Yeah, okay, so they 512 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: got they got the jump on, They got to jump 513 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: on their enemies, try to face them, try to oppose them. Yeah, 514 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: it's like if you use a smoke bomb and then 515 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: you sneak up on you know. Uh yeah, it is 516 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: really interesting it. But also they do have another similarity 517 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: to the elephant, true, which is they have a large 518 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: brain to body mass ratio. They probably need a lot 519 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: of processing power for that complex electro reception. But it's 520 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: also thought this may be a relatively intelligent fish, especially 521 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: compared to its size. Wow. Cool they I mean, like, 522 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, to have to have all that advanced technology, 523 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: to have all that radar on board, I imagine that 524 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of translate into some form of smarts. Yeah, yeah, 525 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: use that information effectively. That's that's smarts in its own way. 526 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: You gotta know how to calibrate yours an organ organ 527 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: I literally forgot for a second. I know, I had 528 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: to remind you is an organ Nelson organs. This fish 529 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: has a Schnaston organ. We find very fascinating. Love that 530 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: love that one more elephant. This is the last elephant 531 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: of the day that is also not an elephant. But 532 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about two elephants that are an elephant true 533 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: and an elephant fish a k a. Elephant nose fish. 534 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: But they're kind of small, you know, they're they're they're 535 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: not like microscopic, but you know, ma size to about 536 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: you know, a little over a foot long. You know, 537 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: they're certainly not elephant in their proportions. And they were 538 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: named elephants such and such because of that proboscis. Now 539 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: this animal was named elephant due to its ridiculous proportions. 540 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous size. This is the elephant bird. Have you 541 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: ever thought about like what a you know, how like 542 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: humans we have extinct ancestors, right, we have these apes 543 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: these Uh god, I just forgot all of human evolution. 544 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, yeah, humans, yes, here 545 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: you go, so like, but like, have you ever thought 546 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: about like that for big bird? Because big bird is 547 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: much like a human bipedal um complex language. Um. You know, uh, 548 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: like what would the ancestor to big bird look like, 549 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: because like, uh, it would have to be some kind 550 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: of large flightless bird because big birds, I mean it 551 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: uses its wings. Now, the big bird to like, I 552 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: guess as kind of hands rudimentary hands, um, but it 553 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: does it is. It is flightless. Um. And big bird 554 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: is also quite large. It's eight ft and two inches, 555 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: which is two point five meters. So yeah, that is 556 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the name really does fit. It's like, big 557 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: bird looks very cuddly, but I also feel like I 558 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: would be intimidated to, like, you know, just look up 559 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: at this big yellow bird because big bird is literally 560 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: that big which quite large. Oh, it's it's quite it's 561 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: quite large. And also you know, okay, so let's let's 562 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: let's be real sesame street big bird Like yeah great, 563 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what what a what a what 564 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: a sweet, warm, cuddly you know, creature being for sure. 565 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: But if you're seeing a raw, untamed big bird out 566 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: in the wild, raw big bird, we're talking, we're talking, 567 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: we're talking primal uncensored big bird. Are you going to 568 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: come up to you and be trying to poke your 569 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: face distance yea, my distance. Birds do not back around, No, 570 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: they really don't. I think it is worth noting that 571 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: birds are dinosaurs, that that's not an exaggeration or like 572 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: a joke. Like they are literally dinosaurs, and the fact 573 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: we call them birds not dinosaurs is just sort of 574 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: it's just factually inaccurate. Yeah, I mean it is inaccurate. 575 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: They're they're literally dinosaurs. There's I mean, it's I suppose 576 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: like if you really like you can make a distinction 577 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: between birds and like dinosaurs, but a lot of like 578 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: bird researchers feel like there's no reason to separate them 579 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: from uh dinosaurs completely. So they are they are a type. 580 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 1: They are a form of dinosaur or that is still 581 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: alive and and so you know, you could say that 582 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: like the ostrich is big bird's ancestor, but I don't 583 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: think so, because ostriches are only around seven ft tall, 584 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: and they just don't have the meatiness of the big bird, 585 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Oh, I mean, well, you know, 586 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: if they really did have the meatness of the big bird, 587 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: I would be even you know, kind of more horrified. Yeah, 588 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: I just fem so cautious of birds out in the wild. 589 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: There's there's definitely a level of bird that I am 590 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: comfortable facing down. I had this, there's okay, have you 591 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: had if you're on the show, Yes, if you want away, 592 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: if you want to of course, classic friend of the 593 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: Friend of the pod, Friend of the many pods, if 594 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: you want way. He has a stance that he could 595 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: fight a gorilla, which is of course ridiculous. Never couldn't happen. 596 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: But there's there's definitely I definitely have a little hubers 597 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: when it comes to certain animals. Birds do not fit 598 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: into the category of ubris of where I'm like, I 599 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: could take bird. I could take a bird, could be 600 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: like a bird that I can hold in my hand. 601 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: But like even like geese, like I'm not trying to 602 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: find with the geese. They are mean. They're mean, they 603 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: are serious, and they when like you know, a lot 604 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: of animals will offer empty threats, not birds, no empty 605 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: They're coming from you up, They're gonna peck your face, yeah, 606 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean. And like it's like even the nerdy birds 607 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: like Corvid's like they hold a grudge because like you know, 608 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, these are sort of the nerdier birds 609 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: are smart. They don't have a lot of brawn, but 610 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: they will remember. They teach their young to like if 611 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: you mess with them, they will teach their offspring to 612 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: hate you. The whole horror movie about this whole movie 613 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: about this a documented snakes on a plane. The government's 614 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: covering it up. That exactly on the point. Yes, So, 615 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: given given your your cautious attitudes towards birds, how would 616 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: you feel about a bird that was nearly tin eat 617 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: tall or three meters one thousand and six hundred pounds 618 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: or seven hundred and thirty ms, the heaviest and tallest 619 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: bird in the history of the earth. So I mean, 620 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: so with great awe and reverence, am I trying to 621 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: with this bird? Zero percent? But I might trying to 622 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: show somebody a cool video of this bird, like walking 623 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: through a village and everybody's like, oh my god, look 624 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: this bird. Or it's like walking into like a town square. 625 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: There's like a bunch of people in the market and 626 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: then this bird just like walks through and people are 627 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: just like, I'm out, Yeah, that's that's what I support. 628 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: It's the kai Je of birds. But this was a 629 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: real bird called the elephant bird who lived in Madagascar. 630 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: So of course, of course Madagascar the home of every 631 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: wild looking everything like Earth's foreign planet. Yes, islands, islands 632 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: do stuff because like when you have an island, you 633 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: have this like interesting. I think it's like you you 634 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: have an isolated system and stuff just goes wild. I 635 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that's like scientific, but that's my opinion. 636 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: Like when you have I feel like the less interrupted 637 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: other parts of the other parts of the world are 638 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: the less they you know, get the influence of other 639 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: species or you know, seeds or you know, every everything 640 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: floats on the wind, so it's like as if nothing's 641 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: getting over there, nothing's affecting it. Shout out trees. Yeah, 642 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's like that's how you get 643 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean certain islands, um like New Zealand or Mauritius, 644 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: they have these amazing ground dwelling birds like the Kiwi's 645 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 1: or the extinct do do because you know, you didn't 646 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: have if you if you don't have too many predators 647 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: that will take advantage of that, uh, then you can 648 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: be just basically this big dumb bird that roams around 649 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: on the ground. Of course that was and by the 650 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: dodo was killed by the Dutch who came in with 651 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: their cats and their dogs and their rats, which it 652 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: probably wasn't the human hunting that did them in all 653 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: of that. That certainly helped, but it was the cats 654 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: and dogs killing them, and then the rats that they 655 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: inadvertently brought that like out competed them. So those combined factors. 656 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: So these closed island systems can have really really interesting animals. 657 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: And these elephant birds despite its size and long ostrich 658 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: like neck like, these look like they looked like ostriches 659 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: on steroids, like much like meteor thicker legs, thicker necks, 660 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: but they still had the long sort of ostrich like 661 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: neck um. So it's like if you just if you 662 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: just bulked up, yeah, bulked up an ostrich or an 663 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: emu protein shakes ket ketoed all the way out, all 664 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: the way ketoed. Chia seeds, you know, es seeds. I 665 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: don't really know, Yeah, go ahead, no no, no, no, 666 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just gonna say, I don't 667 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: know if that's what you do to build bulk, but 668 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: it totally is ground chia seeds. Your body can process 669 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: them a lot better. Sometimes regular chia seeds straight through 670 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: you round chia seeds. You just sort of like just 671 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: eat the powder, just crunch it down. Yeah, that's how 672 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: you crush. It sounds good. It's kind of like it's 673 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: kind of like so basically like for the protein shake, 674 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: I am the shrew mother who's grinding up the grubs 675 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: that are the chia seeds in my mouth to then 676 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: feed them into my smoothie, who then feeds me. But 677 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just I need to see this. I 678 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: need to see this cook cooking home cooking with Danial 679 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: to make a chees smoothie and he's just spitting a 680 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: chea mash into a cup that's per picked. Yeah. I 681 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: hope those sound effects earlier we're enough for the audience 682 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: of this audio only podcast. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a 683 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: it's a s mr. You just like chewing, chewing up 684 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: cheese seeds. So actually, you know what, Yeah, I think 685 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: that would actually there would be people out there into that, 686 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: not that I want to find out. They follow me 687 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: on twitch. Yeah, so like, yeah, it is actually it's 688 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: despite looking like a beefed up ostrich, it's closest living 689 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: relative is not the Ostrich but the Kiwi. And yeah, 690 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: is that weird? Again? This is what the elephants true 691 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: in the elephant, how how are we looking at this 692 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: fish and like its close to kiwi for sure? What? Well, 693 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: it's because there is a lot of parallel evolution or 694 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: convergent evolution. So parallel evolution is when too pretty unrelated 695 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: independent species both arrive at a similar evolutionary path because 696 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: they probably had similar evolutionary pressures, whereas convergent evolutions where 697 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: you have two related species who also both independently evolve 698 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: similar traits, but they're they're more related than species who 699 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,479 Speaker 1: are involved in like parallel evolution. So parallel evolution would 700 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: be like both the elephant nose fish and the platypus 701 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 1: developing that electro reception um, whereas convergent evolution would be gosh, 702 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: let me think that would be the fact that there 703 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: were two species of ground sloth, the giant sloths that 704 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: used to be around but are now extinct. They ended 705 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: up becoming the tree sloths, two toad sloths and the 706 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: three toad slavs, who are related, but they independently evolved 707 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: into the two toad and the three toad slovs, So 708 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: which is really interesting. So the I think they're closely 709 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: related enough to ostrich is that this would be a 710 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: case of parallel evolution. I'm not sure on that, but yeah, so, 711 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: like these birds are becoming more ostrich like or Emu 712 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: like through sort of this parallel evolution, but they are 713 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: more related to the Kiwi. But like the Kiwi, the 714 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: elephant bird had proportionally huge eggs, and Kiwi's are They're 715 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: relatively little birds, like you know, about the size of 716 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: a small I don't know, small milon, a small melon, 717 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: or a small never mind a large kiwi. F Yeah, 718 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: so the Kiwi lays really huge eggs compared to its 719 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: body size, which I'm sorry Kiwi ladies, that sucks. But 720 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: because the elephant birds also laid relatively large eggs, but 721 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: they're also incredibly huge. They had bonkers, gigantic eggs, the 722 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: largest eggs of any bird and likely larger than most, 723 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: if not all, dinosaurs. The eggs are over a foot 724 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: tall or thirty four centimeters and weighed over twenty two 725 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: pounds or tens So yeah, huge, huge eggs. And so 726 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: you might think that this bird is one of these 727 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: ridiculous animals that died out a long time ago, long 728 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: before humans ever existed, one of these like legendary mega fauna. Um. 729 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: But no, they actually existed with humans for quite some time. Really, yes, 730 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did they absolutely terrorize us? I mean, 731 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: I guess imagine looking at one of these tin foot 732 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: tall monsters. I'm sure that people were scared of them. 733 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: But fortunately they were frugivores, so they ate forest fruits. 734 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: They had no taste for human flesh. Um. And so 735 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: in sort of the contest between humans and elephant birds, 736 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: humans did win in the end. Um, but they died out. 737 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: Is actually a topic of some disagreement. It used to 738 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: be thought that elephant birds kind of went extinct when 739 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: humans arrived to Madagascar, and that this happened maybe over 740 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: a thousand years ago, and they were just hunted to 741 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: death by people arriving to Madagascar. But there's right, But 742 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: there's new historical evidence that suggests this is not actually 743 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: the case. So there. So, first of all, there may 744 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: have been a sighting of the elephant bird in the 745 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: seventeenth century, as written down by a French explorer, but 746 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 1: even more convincingly, newer analysis of fossils show earlier human 747 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: arrival in Madagascar, which would have humans and elephant birds 748 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: coexisting for around ten thousand years, So so yeah, like 749 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: humans probably hung out with I mean, maybe not hung 750 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: out like buddies, but you know, they were inhabiting the 751 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: same island with elephant birds possibly for ten thousand years, 752 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: and there was evidence of humans hunting the birds because 753 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: they were like butcher marks on some of these fossils. 754 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: But if they were living together for ten thousand years, uh, 755 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, they were able to hunt them for a 756 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: while without driving them to extinction. So why they went 757 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: extinct is a bit of a mystery. I mean, it's 758 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: possible maybe they're the human population grew larger and then 759 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: they started over hunting it. But there's also the theory 760 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: that it wasn't hunting but the burning of forests and 761 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: pasteurization that ultimately killed off the elephant birds. So like 762 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: the terror terraforming of the they're now like habitat loss essentially, 763 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: which I think makes a lot of sense. A lot 764 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 1: of species don't necessarily go extinct just because we hunt 765 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: them too much, but because we destroy their habitat and 766 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: they just do not have any recourse. They don't have 767 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: anywhere to live or to eat, and so they die out. 768 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: It was poor bird ease, I know, we just came 769 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: and invaded their home. I mean, like, this is so human, 770 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: it tracts so clearly. Yeah, but you know we did. 771 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 1: We meant the nice thing is we managed to live 772 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: with them for ten thousand years, which I think it's 773 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good, pretty good for the human track record. 774 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's like there's some other theories too that 775 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: maybe it had to do with like climate change, that 776 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: these birds like start like they just couldn't cope with 777 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 1: some changes in the climate or change the natural climate change. 778 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I feel like at that point 779 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: we probably were into the industrial era. No, no, this 780 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: was long before anthropogenic climate change. There there's like, you know, 781 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: there's still natural climate change, but it's the anthropogenic climate 782 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: change that is. Uh, it's happening way faster than it 783 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: should be happening, and you could say it could happen here. Yeah. Yeah, 784 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: shout out, shout out to the Robert Evans Show, which 785 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: you know it's uh, you're probably noticing it's pretty warm 786 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: right now, So yes, that it is. That it is. 787 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: It's like when we talk about like the effects of 788 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,959 Speaker 1: climate change, it's always been like, oh, this will happen 789 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: sometime in the future. And I don't know. I feel 790 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: like over the past ten years it's just been like, no, 791 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: it's already, it's happening right now. Yeah, yeah, that was. 792 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: That was the magnificent elephant bird. It is awesome. I 793 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: mean like it makes an awesome steed. I think it 794 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: probably would want nothing to do with me, but I 795 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: would maybe bribe it with some fresh forest fruits and 796 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: hopefully it wouldn't stomp my head in like a like 797 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 1: a ripe smell on. This would be a great beast 798 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: to be friends. Would be like if this was if 799 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: I was running a D and D campaign, I now 800 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: want this is my familiar. This, this is what I 801 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: want by my side when we charged in the battle. 802 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: If if not for its steed quality, at least it's 803 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: pecking ability. Because wow, that that that beak looks big, 804 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: big beak. Yeah, there's that. There's that viral um girl, 805 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: Oh Hillary something she got Emmanuel the the Emmanuel Emmanuel 806 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: Todd something or other. That video is so sweet. Yeah, 807 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: yeahm yes, Emmanuel is an EMU. Emmanuel is part of 808 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: I believe it's like a a refuge or or a farm. Yeah. 809 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: I literally just started following her. I can't remember what 810 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: her name is Taylor Blake, and she takes these videos 811 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: of of the of the farm. It's like a hobby farm, 812 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: I think, like where they just take care of these animals. 813 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: She'll like do videos of the various animals kind of 814 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,280 Speaker 1: educate people about them. And then this emu named Emmanuel 815 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: will like interrupt her videos, walk in front and then 816 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: knock the camera over. And it's so incredible, it's so great, 817 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: and they have a wonderful, beautiful friendship and it's I 818 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: just I love I love this, this friendship between human 819 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: and bird, human and dinosaur um. But imagine emmanual but like, gosh, 820 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: like ten times as big. Maybe that's too many times 821 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: much bigger, so much bigger, because sogers are relatively like 822 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: they're they're they're big for birds, but they're still shorter 823 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: than humans. You know they're You can tell because you 824 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,760 Speaker 1: can see her like hugging him with her arm around. 825 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: It's so cute. So it's very sweet. But like if 826 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: if if you could have an Immanuel bird friend but 827 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: just like ten feet tall, just thunderously stomping around would 828 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: be scary but also great. I mean, like it's yes, 829 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: great in the in the great in the grand scheme, 830 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: how great it would be to have giant animals again. 831 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: But also I maintain terrifying birds. Do not back around. 832 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: This bird is coming to poke your eyes out. You know, 833 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,879 Speaker 1: maybe it just looks on you with pity and it's 834 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: just like instead of like trying to kill you, it's like, 835 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you one solid push with my 836 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,479 Speaker 1: foot and remove you from my place. I think it's like, yeah, 837 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: like I will stomp on you if you, you know, 838 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: try to take my melon away. Yes, don't take my 839 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: belton away. So yeah, I mean I think we have 840 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: addressed the elephant, the many elephants in the room, many 841 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: elephants in the room, the many elephants, the elephant shrew, 842 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: the elephant fish, the elephant bird, but we never actually 843 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: addressed the an elephant, which you know, sorry past You 844 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: know what, elephants, elephants have had their moment. There was 845 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: just that one elephant that stomped out that woman's funeral, 846 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: who was like, gosh, it was perfect, just you know what, great, 847 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm good with that elephants are having a moment, So 848 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: all elephant should have a moment exactly that that elephant. No, no, 849 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: coincidences that elephant knew what it was doing. Oh, it 850 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: knew what it was doing and they never I mean 851 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: and can there has to be something that went on 852 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,959 Speaker 1: there that you know, it's a case for POORO. Really, 853 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm team elephant if it wasn't clear for sure, if 854 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: they want, if they want to, it's could have been 855 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: the sweetest like like sweetest old woman like making cookies 856 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: and this elephant just comes in and recks her life. 857 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, they see something that we don't Who 858 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: knows that, who knows that woman's politics? Where the elephant 859 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: was a hired hitman? You don't know? Wow? Could you imagine? Yeah, 860 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking about it. Elephant. Wait, that would be 861 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: so funny and hiring that's just that is a brilliant 862 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: scheme right there. Someone needs to start a business of 863 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: hiring elephants to kill people, because you should know the 864 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: like most elephants for hire are actually undercover cops. So 865 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Nial's gotta gotta make some flight plans 866 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,280 Speaker 1: to Mexico. Yeah, I got I got some mixed emotions 867 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: about these. So does a cab apply to elephants as well? 868 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 1: I'm only the elephants that are undercover cops. That's fair, okay, fair, 869 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: not not all elephants. All elephants, okay, good hashtag No. 870 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: I love elephants. They're they're great. So now I think 871 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,720 Speaker 1: we gotta play a little game game. It's called Guess 872 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: Who's squawking? Play music? Now, Yes, it is Guess Who's squawking? 873 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: The Mry Animal sound game. Every week I play a 874 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: Mr Animal sound and you the listener, and you the guest, 875 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of guess just squawking. Last week's Mr Animals sound 876 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: hint was this. You won't be surprised to learn that 877 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: this is called a screaming party. But who are the 878 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: party goers? Okay? Uh dnimal, can you guess who is squawking? Okay? 879 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: Lots of hints in there. Police sirens, so some sort 880 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: of like you know, some sort of uh domestic urban 881 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: area with with with people, some kind of animal that's 882 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: an emergency responder, some kind of animalison mergy responder. It 883 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: feels like a smaller animal kind of a high pitched, 884 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: high pitched sound. Um. It also has kind of like 885 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: a ringed or like a particular kind of tambre to 886 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: it that doesn't necessarily sound like a bird. Almost sounds 887 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: like a bug, or maybe like some sort of like 888 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: weird amphibian or something that's like an Indian that's like 889 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: putting out some interesting But my gut tells me bug, 890 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with I don't know if I could. 891 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't tell you the bug. But if 892 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: I was going to choose a I don't know which 893 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: kingdom filing class order, how far down it goes. But 894 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: if I had to guess one of those, I'm going 895 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: to go with insect insect interesting. And this is last 896 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: week's clue, right, This is last week's clue, so you're 897 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: going to reveal it now, that's right, So congratulations to 898 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of names here. The winners are h mac I, 899 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: Joey P. Robert Us, and Shada, who guess correctly that 900 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: these are swifts. So uh you Dan. I love the 901 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: creativity of thinking these are insects. There are, in fact 902 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: a lot of loud insects that come out in the summer. 903 00:58:54,320 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: Cicada's will make really loud noises. But swifts are a 904 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: species of birds. Always birds, sometimes it's birds. It's not 905 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: always birds in this game, but sometimes it is birds. 906 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: I like to switch it up. You never know when 907 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be birds. But yeah, so, like these swifts 908 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: will come out in great numbers during the summer and 909 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: will form these screaming parties where they just fly around screaming. 910 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. So that's what's art. I mean, it's interesting 911 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: because while they are birds, they're very strange kind of bird. 912 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: Like you look at you see them flying in this sky, 913 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: just looks like a bird. You look at them close up, 914 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: they look like tiny drones. And I'm not going to 915 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: play into the whole like birds are just you know, 916 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: conspiracy by the government, you know, blah blah blah. No, 917 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: birds are real. Just because they happen to look like 918 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: drones does not mean that they actually are drones. I 919 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: mean some of them are FBI informants, but that's a 920 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: separate issue. Um. They they just have such a sleek body, 921 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's because they are evolutionarily designed to spend most 922 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: of their life flying in the air, barely ever stopping. 923 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: So they migrate from Africa to Europe in the summer 924 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: and back to Africa in the winter. And they can eat, drink, 925 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: and even sleep while flying. Uh, they fly so much 926 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: and they spend so little time perching or you know, resting, 927 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: that their feet have little use. They do not walk, 928 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: and so their feet are small and underdeveloped. Basically just 929 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: these like little hooks that they can use for gripping 930 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: onto the sides of buildings or trees for when they 931 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: need to nest. So it's just like landing gear. Yeah, exactly, 932 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: that's it. It's landing gear. Right now, they are in Europe, 933 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: although I think that by the yeah, they they're probably 934 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: starting to leave Europe to fly back to western and 935 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Central Africa to avoid the cold temperatures of winter and 936 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: follow the flow of insects because they will catch a 937 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of insects like in the air. Um and it 938 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: is it is, Ah, they're amazing little birds. We I 939 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: talked more about it on UM. I did an episode 940 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago called Around the World and eighty 941 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Birds was an interview with an author, Mike on one. 942 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 1: So if you want to if you want to hear 943 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: more about that, I interview an author of that book 944 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Around the World in eighty Birds, and we talk about 945 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: the Swift's But yeah, amazing amazing birds loud as heck though, 946 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, and they they are um. They are 947 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,439 Speaker 1: like they are right around here where I live in turn, 948 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and so they I've been hearing them all summer long. Yes, 949 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I like it, Though they don't, I'm enjoying it. So 950 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animal. Saydun, here's the hint. Today 951 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 1: we just talked about elephants in the room who aren't elephants. 952 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: But what about the rhinoceros in the room, who's not 953 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: a rhino? What was that? What? Oh my god? So 954 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: can you guess who is squawking? No, I'm kidding. I mean, 955 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: so there were there were two sounds there, and I 956 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: just want to clarified. There was there was like one 957 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 1: that sounded kind of like birds in the background, but 958 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: then there was a much closer sounding kind of like 959 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: squeak or like a sucking noise almost. It sounds like 960 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: someone sucking through the very end of a straw. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 961 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, I'm taking another shot in the dark here, 962 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 1: or not shot in the dark, but but but going 963 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: for like a subverted answer. It sounds like a mammal 964 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: of some kind, like some sort of like rodents. M hmm, 965 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: call Like I don't know if it's a maiden call 966 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: or calling for help. But I'm gonna go with I'm 967 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: gonna go with small rodent. Interesting. Well that that is 968 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: a guess and you will not know whether or not 969 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: it's true until next week when I reveal the answer 970 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: to this. That's right leaving real cliffhanger. Um. But if 971 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: you out there think you know who is squawking, write 972 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: to me at Creature Feature Product gmail dot com. But 973 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: if you have any questions you can write send me 974 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: an email too. I'm also on Twitter at Katie Golden. 975 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: That's GEO L d I in. Uh wait, should I 976 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 1: spell my first name? People know it's k A t 977 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,919 Speaker 1: I E. Okay, the full name here It is from 978 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: kidding kay A t I E g O L d 979 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: I in. And then you can check out that dread 980 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: of elephant. True's fun. It's it's very good, very good 981 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: to see them me on because their little nose has 982 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: to like go whoop up upwards. It's very funny, it's 983 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 1: very cute, it's very um. Play podcast is online to 984 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: it creat your Feet pod on Twitter. That's little different. 985 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Still where find you? 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