1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Step shot. He's a friend. Eric the cost is a 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: friend Izz. He knew some come back to Arni of 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: COURSI with the Baltimore Cold to after my first job 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: every in the NFL back in three with Eric. We 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: know he has a great understanding of the game. We 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: know he has an under a great understanding of the 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: draft process. He had a great teacher, a great mentor 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: at Ozzie knew something but the world with the best 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: ever as a general manager. Now I love the hair 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: as a guy who also has a little a little 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: proof in his hair. You know, I have trouble kind 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: of containing this. Who is your barber? Mill? Welcome into 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: the lounge. We promised Milkper Jr. And we got this 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: is the ultimate draft analyst right here. He's the o G. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: And the great thing about Mark Kaiper is that he's 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: got a little Baltimore title him. Yeah, he does. He 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: went to Calvert Hall High School. Local guy, still lives 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: in the Baltimore area. So you know he's got a 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: little soft spot for the Ravens and they're probably I 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: can say this for sure, he probably knows the Ravens 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: better than he knows any other team in the NFL. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: So if you want to talk Ravens draft specifically, he's 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: the best guy to get. I remember he and Daniel Jeremiah. 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: We're kind of spoiled, we are. We do have a 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: lot of draft channelists that know this team very well. 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: J a former scout from here. So it's pretty cool. Um, well, 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: funny story about malt kiper I remember seven years ago 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: for opening Day, he was sitting one section over from us, 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, on opening Day and for the Orioles everyone 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: heads out pretty much from here, and and Kaifer was 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: sitting there one section over from us a few years ago, 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: so he still got the Baltimore thing going. Yeah, pretty cool, 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Pretty cool anyway, Uh, listeners will notice that only I 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: am asking questions. That's not because Garrett didn't have any 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: questions to ask. Yeah, I was waiting for my opportunity 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: to get it, just wanting to jump at the ball. 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: It's because Garrett was of course. Of course, of course 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I was working. I was out of town at a 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: conference in Denver, NFL league meetings, so I gotta go 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: where the work is, and that's where the work was. 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: The past couple of days I didn't realize the work 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: was it happier or after this one was an early 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: morning sun up to sundown meetings not stopped. Gotch. What's 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: what is kind of funny we're even now because a 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: couple of years ago I wasn't here for the mel 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: kiper Jr. Podcast, and now you weren't here for this year. 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: So when whenever we asked me to do the interviews 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: for the podcast, he says, I'll only do it with 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: one of you. That's like George, yea, I want to 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: answer questions from you, from me, not you. Anyway, that's 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: a little teaser for our podcast with George's as well. Yeah, 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: so we got a lot of good stuff coming to you. 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: And with all that said, let's jump right into it 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: with mel kiper Jr. Happy to welcome in ESPN's draft expert, 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: mel kiper Baltimore guy, Baltimore Colts fan growing up. Who's uh, 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say your bias towards 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens, but you've kind of adopted us as your 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: see him a little bit. I think we take a 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: little pride in that. No question right now. You gotta 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: be objective, you know, you try to be as objective 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: as you can, and I do. When I'm sitting there, 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: I take a lot and there's no bias. But Steve 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: Biscotti's a friend. Eric the Costa is a friend. Osi 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: knew some going back to arn a coursie with the 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: Baltimore Cults are from my first job ever in the 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: NFL back in three So yeah, just a case where 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: you have so many people you're kind of rooting for, 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: and I go to raven games, so you know then 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Lauren and Kim, my daughter is a huge Ravens fan. 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: So again, yeah, it's hard not to be. But you 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: gotta be objective because people don't want you there to 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: be you know, just you know, given opinions that are 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: all positive on a team because you're's your local team. 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: And well to add, Todd mcshay's up in New England 75 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: with the Patriots and you gotta be objective there and 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: he is. We're all we all have our local teams, 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and we all have our teams that were a favorites 78 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: when we were growing up, as the Colts were for me. 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think, but the draft rolls 80 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: around and even during the year, anytime you're commenting, you 81 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: really you lose that lens and you deal with it 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: as somebody who's just objectively evaluating a team or applied. 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: We'll just say that if you're on the border between 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: A and A plus, at the end of the day, 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: you'll get you'll round up for us. Sometimes I felt, 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: because everybody knows I will almost It's funny when we 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: do those graves the night the night of the draft 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: that's for funding immediately after the draft over Ryan, we 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: do that, Okay, I value wait and I always do 90 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the great thing, and it's almost like you feel like 91 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: I can't go there because I'll say, oh, you know, 92 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: his friends and everybody's like game or whatever. So I 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: got to back off a little bit at least from 94 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: what I really would like to do sometimes and instead 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: of an ay, let's come up, be let's you know. 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: So I tend to always feel that people will view 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: it that I'm like I say, showing for hometown, you know, 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: right right right, So you know Ozzie knew some you know, 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: and what he's meant this franchise in your opinion, you know, 100 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: obviously Eric Tocasa has massive shoes to fill. Just what 101 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: do you feel like, you know, how good a job 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: will Eric do and how do you think he'll be 103 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: different from Ozzie in this draft. Well, I think a 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: couple of things, and one thing about you know, the 105 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: evaluation process. There's no guarantees, and you look at various drafts, 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: and for as great as everybody, maybe there's always gonna 107 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: be draft where you have some misses more than you 108 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: do hits, so you want more hits than missus. But 109 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't work that way. You see, general managers 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: have success one place, lead to go somewhere else and 111 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: not get the job done. And it's just there's no certainty, 112 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee. We have head coaches have great success 113 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: one place because else it doesn't work. So there's there's 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: no And sometimes they've got fired, as Bill Belichick didn't Cleveland. 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: You go to New England and you're on the best ever, 116 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: So there's no you can't say because somebody did good here, 117 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna do great here, or he or he didn't 118 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: do the job here's gonna bring him in. Anybody's ripping 119 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury because he got fired to Texas Tech and 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: he was at USC. It doesn't mean he's not gonna 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: be a good coach. Thearris, I don't know but I 122 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: mean's gonna be a great coach, So we don't know. 123 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: So again with with Eric, we know he has a 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: great understanding of the game. We know he has an 125 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: under a great understanding of the draft process, you know, 126 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: moving up, moving down. The Ravens have always been active 127 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: with that. He had a great teacher, a great mentor 128 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: in Ozi k Newsome the world the best ever as 129 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: a general manager. And when the best ever fight ends 130 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So then as he did it as 131 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: a player, and he did it as a front office 132 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: executive executive, got in the great owner and Steve a 133 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: shotting to work for um a great calend to work in, uh, 134 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: great sand base, Uh, tremendous stadium. Everything about the Ravens 135 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: is positive, and I think that energy, that positive energy, 136 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: I think feeds this organization. They've always had that great 137 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: leadership in that locker room. Uh, they always have will 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: have that seems like Ray Lewis's energy is always gonna 139 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: be there. You always hope you get another guy like that. 140 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: But I think Erica understands that, and and then let's 141 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: hope that all falls into place. And the bottom line 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: is Ryan, It's gonna get down to one of my 143 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: ADDIE's last first ground pick is gonna be a key 144 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: for the next three or four or five years. It's 145 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna be Lamar Jackson. Yeah, exactly. You know the Ravens, 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, as you know, have a lot of needs. 147 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: After the defensive departures C J. Mosleys are all Suggs, 148 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Darius Smith. Then on offense, obviously you have work to 149 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: do it wide receiver and on the offensive line to 150 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: build around Lamar Jackson. As you mentioned, if you're ranking 151 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: the needs wide receiver, edge rusher, interior, O line, inside linebacker, 152 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: how do you kind of rank those Well, I think 153 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: you look at the linebacking situation of the interior or 154 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think inside linebacker, interior that center 155 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: guard situation. I think it would be two areas. Wide 156 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: receiver's got to be right in there. I think all 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: three are kind of close, depending you could flip it. 158 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you could argue if you put any 159 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: any order of those three, whether it be wide receiver, 160 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, interior, offensive line. Um, those are the three 161 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: key areas they need to get some hole stillers at. 162 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth at wide receiver, wide receiver 163 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: depth goes into the fifth round. I think I think 164 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some second round receivers maybe better than 165 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: maybe something to go little rolier, maybe in the first 166 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: I think there's some of some depth linebacker in the 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: offensive line interior is one of the strengths of the draft. 168 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: There's there's not many tackles Ryan, but there's a lot 169 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: of center slash guard types. I mean Connor McGovern Penn State, 170 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Michael Dieter Wisconsin. You look at a guy like Eric 171 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: McCoy from Texas A and m uh there's a lot 172 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: of those types of players in this draft. So a 173 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: lot of guards that can play tackle, so that have 174 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: the ability to do a Dalton Riisinger from Kansas State, 175 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Jonal Williams Alabama, Cody Ford, Oklahoma. There's a lot of 176 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of Max Scharping Northern Illinois, Cumadoga USC. 177 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: I can go on and one that's always you about 178 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: the first of all offensive lineman available in this draft. Right, Well, 179 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: let's start at wide receiver because you know, always popular 180 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: subject in Baltimore, and it seems like there's a clump 181 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: of guys that are are probably late first into the 182 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: second round. Guys I'm talking, you know, or mid first 183 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf, You know nikkil Harry A. J. Brown, Miles 184 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: boyk and and Kim Butler, you know ur Sega white Side. 185 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Then you have like these speedsters like Marquise Brown, Paris Campbell, 186 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, those kind of guys, of of that cluster 187 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: of wide receivers. What guy do you feel like fits 188 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: the best, the ravens the best and why? You know, 189 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: I look at at Dk Metcalf is a big, physically 190 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: gifted receiver who you know, has to stay healthy to 191 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: the last three years, who's been hurt because I only 192 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: had sixty seven rear receptions. More of a down the 193 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: field threat. He's gonna get enough burst out of his 194 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: break to get enough separation. That's the key with him. Uh. 195 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: You think about Markue's Hollywood Brown. If he wasn't coming 196 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: off an injury, the LIZT. Frank surgery, he would be 197 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I think a mid first rounder. Now does he's fried 198 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: into the late first early second We'll see he's only 199 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty six pounds as well. I think 200 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: all these guys are different. And you know, Terry McLaurin 201 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: really came on some people say, well, it's a special 202 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: team reasact rot. More than that, he became a big 203 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: time threat in that passing game. Had a great Senior 204 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: Bowl week like him. If you want the big receiver 205 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: whos kind of a power forward to kill Harry from 206 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Arizona State. You want a great run after the catch 207 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: guy Deebo Samuel from South Carolina Paris Campbell, Ohio State 208 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: has got straight line speed. Some people are gonna look 209 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: at him pretty early in the second round. Miles breaking. 210 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: You want a female will become a little more physical. 211 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: But he's a gifted player who had one really strong 212 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: year this past season at Notre Dame. And you got 213 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: J j R. Sego right side of two and twenty 214 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: three pounder run four or four nine is pro Day 215 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: last week, had a really good career out to her 216 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: fifteen guards to catch was a touchdown guy. Red zone guy. Uh, 217 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: he's a guy I think could go in the second round. 218 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: J j R. Saco right side. So there's a host 219 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: of receivers a little different A J. Brown oldvis I 220 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: didn't even mention it could be a good slot receiver. 221 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: You mentioned a team butler. You want to see a 222 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: little more consistency with the hands with him Manuel Hall 223 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: or good down the field vertical stretch guy from Missouri. 224 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: So I guess that this is gonna be a really 225 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: good second and third fourth round wide receiver group. Yes, 226 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a debate going on in Baltimore about 227 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: what kind of wide receiver fits best. You know, do 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: you want to put get a speeds there early on 229 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: to kind of take the top off because safeties are 230 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna be dropping with the run game in Lamar Jackson, 231 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: Or do you need kind of that big bodied red 232 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: zone guy to win jump balls? In your opinion, which 233 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: way do you see the Ravens leaning? Well, it may 234 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: be a move point in terms of where they're picking 235 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: at twenty two because DK Metcalf could be gone now, 236 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown could be there because of the injury to me. 237 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: He's a dynamic presence when he's on the field. He's healthy. 238 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's had some minor little things in Oklahoma 239 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: and anything playing, but he's He's a guy that did 240 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: get hurt this year, did have the Liz Frank surgery, 241 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: and you saw his impact against Alabama early all and 242 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: they were struggling. Now they got it together in a 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: second E and Coylin Lurry brought them back and made 244 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: that game interesting, but they did it without Marcus Brown. 245 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: But I think if you look at a guy, I 246 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: think that's a little under the rate. I would say 247 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: under the raid, under rated Deepo Samuel. He's just so 248 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: good with the ball in his hands, and I think, 249 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, you look at what he was able to 250 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: do now DeAndre Baker and some other corners. He's gone 251 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: up against some really good players throughout his career in 252 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the SEC. But he's an intriguing guy. J j R. 253 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Sega right side. You know about a big body guy 254 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: who can go get the ball on high point the 255 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: ball and be a red zone threat. He's the guy, 256 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: and he has the production behind him for David Charlotte 257 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Stanford and he ran like I say a four or 258 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: four or nine four or five oh two and three 259 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: pounds played two five, So I think, yeah, you're really 260 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: the kill Harry played for her Needwards. We spoke to 261 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: Homer Edwards, I did when the radio mid season he 262 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: was raving about Nikil Harry. So again and I think 263 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: McLaren's underrated coming out of Ohio State. So I don't 264 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: think you really have to say what height, Just get 265 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: the best receiver, McLaren. These guys will block some wall. 266 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: It depends what you want. The complete guy isn't one 267 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: guy that jumps out actually that way. But yeah, I 268 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: think the guy that I think is the most you know, 269 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: dynamic is Hollywood Brown. The most you talk about upside 270 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: is a red zone guy. It would be dk metcalfing 271 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: it down the field threat. You want an underrated guy, 272 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: that might be J j R. Cycle right side from Stanford. 273 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: So if the Ravens don't draft a wide receiver in 274 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: the first round, or let's say they don't trade back 275 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and take one early in the second or whatnot, you 276 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: know they don't have a second round pick as it 277 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: stands right now. Who are some third round wide receivers 278 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: that you think could make sense? Well, that's a good 279 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: question because I I think when you look at the 280 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: depth at that spot in this draft, Riley Ridley from Georgia, 281 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: it was a guy I think could fall into the 282 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: third round. You want to slot, you want to Danny 283 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: m and Doola west Walker type slot guy. Andy Isabella 284 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: from you Mass was on the fastest players in this draft. 285 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: He's gonna be an interesting guy. I think at that 286 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: particular point of the draft to say, who's the third round? 287 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Possibly Nicole Hardman, a four three guy out at Georgia, 288 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: also has return skills. Jalen heard out of Baylor, formally 289 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: of Tennessee, where he was a running back, big athletic 290 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: kid with a great work ethic, really really studying as 291 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the game's passionate about the game. I think those are 292 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: some third round possibilities at the wide receiver spot. So 293 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: so moving on to edge rusher, you know, trying to 294 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: replace for allsos Inzitarius Smith. Uh, you have Colo and 295 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: Farrell projected at number seventeen in your most recent mock draft. 296 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any way that you know, the 297 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: productive Clemson d N could could slide to the Ravens 298 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: at twenty two? And if you did, is that a no, duh, 299 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: run the card up to put in the pick kind 300 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: of guy he possibly could be? Mus I say, possibly, right, yeah, 301 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: I have him going right in that the same general area. 302 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: And you think about you know, six teams, we've always 303 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: had him to Carolineau with Brian Burns there, like did 304 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: the great a that Giants taking Feral? Uh? You know 305 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: he's always been right at Carolina. You thought that as 306 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: far as he would drop maybe the seven team. Some 307 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: think on Todd maybe mcsha maybe thought he would drop 308 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: a little bit further than that in his last knock 309 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: that he did. We'll see, but he could. He's he's 310 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: not one of these dynamic edge rushers. He's a guy 311 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: who's disruptive because of his length. You can move him around. 312 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: He could provide some scheme versatility. Um the Alabama game, 313 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: he was unblocked on the one play when he made 314 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: the behind the lines, a stopter that got everybody's attention. 315 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Joan to Williams didn't didn't miss the block he pulled 316 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: and the guy he came up inside and he did 317 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: embarrass Williams once when Jonah was all balanced, but well, 318 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams held his own in that game. For the 319 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: most part, Farrell made his impact felt because he was 320 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: able to obviously get some matchups that he liked in 321 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: that game where I can say you Williams outside, he 322 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: comes inside and there's there's the play. But I think 323 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. If he was there, I'd 324 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: be a little surprised, not shocked. Right, moving on to 325 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: interior line, you know you and Todd both projected a 326 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: center for the Ravens, just different guys. You went with 327 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Eric McCoy, he went with Brad Berry. Why do you 328 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: do you think that McCoy is just a better fit 329 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: for the Ravens or he's a better player. Can you 330 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: can you explain that I went with the guy Ryan 331 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: It was a center guard possibility. If Brad Berry is 332 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: a center. Bradbury is a gifted athlete with tremendous character 333 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: and and just he did a heck of a job 334 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: for Ryan Finley, the quarterback at mc State in that offense, 335 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: was a real leader of that football team. So if 336 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: you want the true center, you go Bradberry. You want 337 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna play center or has the athleticism 338 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: to be a guard, And say Eric McCoy, So I 339 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: think that's a guy that can help you in both 340 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: areas and the Ravens center and guard or areas of concern. 341 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: So I think McCoy because of the versatility. Do you 342 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: want the best true center? It would be bad Bradburry, 343 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: I believe and and guard obviously, you know an immediate 344 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: need and possibly future with Marshal Yanda. You know whenever 345 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: he decided to stop playing. Chris Lindstrom Cody Ford seemed 346 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: like the top two guys that are are projected to 347 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: be guard guards. I mean, Cody could probably tell you 348 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: tackle too, but right, you know, you had so much 349 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: success with Orlando Brown and mall Are out of Oklahoma. 350 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: Does Cody Ford just make too much sense to you? 351 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Or do you feel like Lindstrom. Hey, he'd be a 352 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: great for Baltimore too. I would tend to go with 353 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: Lyndstrom because I think Cody fordsmoreger right tackle he played it. Yeah, 354 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that's where he's gonna sit more than at 355 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: a guard. Uh. With the agility of Lyndstrom and just 356 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: that the veteran president play't even a little right tackle 357 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: during his career, but he's been a you know, a dynamic. 358 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: He's all about a dominator. He's a plug in play 359 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: I think Pro Bowl caliber player. Yeah, he just I 360 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: love the way he plays. When I say dynamic for 361 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: always fun to watch, always say entertained the watches Lyndstrom 362 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: because he just goes after you. He and Dalton Riisener 363 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: from Kansas State. You want to watch guys attack and 364 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: play with the defensive mentality, that would be Risener and Lyndstrom. 365 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: These guys get after it. They're fun. I even remember 366 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas when he was wisconstantly. He's a guy fun 367 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: to watch on film. And I think when you look 368 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: at at Lyndstrom Reisner, I think those are guys that 369 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: are you you just put him in that line up 370 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: for good about him for ten twelve years. I mean 371 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: they're they're that type that David de Castro's the guy 372 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: that you knew we're gonna be plug and play guards. 373 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what Kris Lynstrom is. That's why I 374 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: think he's almost all right now. I had him in 375 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: there pretty early at all and going in the first round, 376 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: and Todd thinks he's going in there now. I don't 377 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: see him getting outlet out of round run. I think 378 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: it would be a really good mid to late first 379 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: round pick at inside linebacker. It's kind of expected that 380 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: the two Devons Devin White and Devon Bush will both 381 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: be gone by twenty two. But Eric cossas that he's 382 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: really they've really studied those second tier inside linebackers. Who 383 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: are some guys you think in the third, fourth round 384 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: at inside linebacker that that could fit. You know, I 385 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: think if Bobby Okarricky is a kid out of Stanford 386 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: and John Gruden and I we have spent a lot 387 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: of time in meetings together and John always stressed lanes 388 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: for inside linebackers. You don't find a lot of guys 389 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: with length and that can be very disruptive to a quarterback. 390 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Everybody worries about the edge when I bet up, you know, 391 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, and I think, well, 392 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: you look at Okareka with there was long arms. You 393 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: can they could just be a disruptive force for quarterbacks. 394 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: And I think, really a good football player Stanford for 395 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: David Shaw and if he gets into the third round 396 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: Okarreki from Stanford, sy Taka Taki from b y US 397 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: played inside and out all over the field type of 398 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: player for B y You really can any one strong 399 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: this year matured a lot during his career at b 400 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: y U. Uh He's interesting, but seeing Joseph from Florida 401 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: has a lot of versatility inside or out. David Long 402 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Junior from West Virginia would be another guy. But I 403 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: would go Okariki or Takataki. Okariki Stanford, Takataki from b 404 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: y U as guys I think in the third round 405 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: would make some sense the same question. Kind of third 406 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: fourth round edge rushers, you know, if they don't take 407 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: one high. Yeah, yeah, I think here's a lot of 408 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: those guys, and I think you could see an Ocean's 409 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: eminist from Old Dominion drop maybe down that far. I think, 410 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, you look at a guy that I think 411 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: could maybe may be a second but probably a third. 412 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Chase Win, a bitch from Michigan who outproduced where Shan 413 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: Gary was gonna go a little higher in the draft. 414 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: Uh he was certainly Ben Bannigou from TCU would be 415 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: a possibility as well. I like Jamal Davis from Akron 416 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: as a sleeper on days day three. Somewhere in that 417 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: fifth sixth round area. Christian Miller Alabama could be a 418 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: nice fifth sixth round pick as well. Our Germaine prat 419 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: for men see States. Another guy could go in that 420 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: fourth round area, Josh Jacobs. You know, everybody's kind of 421 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: raving about him right now. He seems really hot. The 422 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: Ravens obviously signed mark Ingram. But do you think if 423 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: if Josh Jacobs is sitting there at twenty two, is 424 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: there any chance that they could say, hey, let's just 425 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: have the best running backs, uh corps in the league 426 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: and just take them. I'll be a surprise if they did. 427 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm not big one running backs in round. They can 428 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: get these guys down the line. You know, you can 429 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: always find these running backs. You think about Alvin Comara 430 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: in the third round a few years ago. You look 431 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: at look at Gussette were undrafted for the Ravens. You 432 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: think about priest Homes with the Ravens undrafted. You know, 433 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: as you can just find running backs. All these teams 434 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: were able to do it. Uh you look at the 435 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, look at what the Atlanta has been able 436 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: to do getting running backs not in the first round. 437 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: And you see what David Johnson and Arizona. Uh, you 438 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: look at Marlon mc in Indianapolis. Uh, we have learned 439 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: flour Nette Leonard four that's you know, struggling little bit 440 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville right now. But a lot of guys, I mean, 441 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay has always had a pretty good history of 442 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: finding running backs later in the draft. Um, that's the 443 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: and you can do that at and then find guys. 444 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Look at Nick Chubleish youre in the second round to 445 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Was like he's gonna be a really 446 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: good player for them. Um, you know, I just think 447 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: that's a spot. You know, you can you can find 448 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: a running back that slips through the crack. So so 449 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I would look at a guy like Jacobs's teammate Damien Harris. 450 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: That was a guy back in August Ryan and we 451 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: thought would be maybe a first round think I worsen 452 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: early too. He's kind of out over shattered and outshined 453 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: by Jacobs late in the year midway through the year. 454 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: David Harris is a high character kid, really good player. 455 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: If he were there in that the third round area, 456 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: he would be interesting. David Montgomery, dependable running back out 457 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: of Iowa State and thumb the ball, earned his real 458 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: estate at Iowa State with the Cyclones. Miles Sanders Penn State. 459 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you another kid, Devin Singletary of Flaw Atlantic 460 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: had a ton of yards, had a ton of carries, 461 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: never was really banged up. The dependable, reliable only ran 462 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: four six six at the combine. That will hurt him 463 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: a bit. He could drop down and become a real 464 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: bargain for somebody. Devin Singletary could come out of Florida 465 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: Atlantic tray ViOn Williams has outside quickness, has a real 466 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: good burst at Texas, I and am did a great 467 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: job for Jim bow Fisher. Jim bow Fisher at Dalvin Cook. 468 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: Calvin Cook was the second round picked to the Vikings. 469 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: A few years ago Trayon Williams did for for Jim 470 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: bow Fisher. What what he did? Uh? So? I think 471 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: when you look at a situation there he can get 472 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: it done. To Justice Hill around a great forty showed 473 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: explosive ability of Oklahoma State. I like rick Well rock 474 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Armstead at Temple, Darryl Henderson at Memphis can catch the 475 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: ball out of back to the interesting guy to his 476 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: Bryce Love. If he didn't get hurt against the tow 477 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: with the knee, he probably would have been in that 478 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: second third round discussion. Now maybe he drops down a round. 479 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: Here two photos of you say, I got two more 480 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: for you. I know you're a busy guy, mel so 481 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: I'll make quick for you. This this one comes from 482 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: one of my Twitter followers. I let them ask one 483 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: question for you. So okay. This one's from Garrett Ferguson. 484 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: He says, if there's one thing that Eric Decasson could 485 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: do in this draft that would truly surprise you, what 486 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: would it be. Wow, Well, these are surprises or surprises 487 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: because you can't predict them, right, Garrett. People always they 488 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: ask to me, tell me who the shocking first round 489 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 1: pick is gonna be. It was gonna shock me. I can't, Oh, 490 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: you're right now. If a shock because I didn't see 491 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: it coming. A surprise because I didn't see it coming. 492 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: So I don't if I answer the question, net Wack, 493 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: I can't predict surprises because they're only surprises. I didn't 494 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: see it coming. For me, it would be like a corner, 495 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, if they take a corner in the first 496 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: that would be crazy. And I got a lot of corners, 497 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: but they're hey, they're guys, are be moving on. They 498 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: like that depth. They like to have a lot of corners. 499 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, that would it would be a surprise to me. 500 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: If if it's not like you say, the positions that 501 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: we covered an interior offensive line and you're a wide receiver, 502 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: they obviously a linebacker. I mean, those will be the 503 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: three spots you would say, boy, you know you would 504 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: sink that would be one of those positions. But hey, 505 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, you never know, And like I say, sometimes 506 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, you get locked into needs and you have 507 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: if a really good player slides through the crack. Sometimes 508 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: you do that, but that would be a surprise. But hey, 509 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: like I said, I get that question a lot, Ryan, 510 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: and that's the way I tend to have always answered. 511 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't provide you with surprises and shockers 512 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: right now. I will you about those though next week 513 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: a couple weeks of the draft. How was that? That 514 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: sounds good? And the last one for you, now, I 515 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: love the hair. As a guy who also has a 516 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: little a little proof in his hair, you know, I 517 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: have trouble kind of containing this. So I gotta know 518 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: because you're in my future. I think I'm gonna that's 519 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I look at you, I say, that's gonna be me 520 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: here a little bit. Who is your barber now, Ryan 521 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Kim Keiper was my barber for all those Just Kim 522 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Well when Kim we met in nine eight, okay, And 523 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: the first thing Kim said is I'm cutting your hair. 524 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: I hate that long hair. Okay. So and John Wilde 525 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: hackers out the a d It's Syracuse loves Kim even 526 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: more than the other day because he got he said, 527 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: you did something we could never get him to do. 528 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Cut the dag on hair as. I got the hair 529 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: cut then and it's been receiving and receiving, so basically 530 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: just getting up there. I'm fifty fifty nine and Joe 531 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: I was taking care of a lot of rights. I 532 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. An interesting story where I 533 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: remember Dr Z Paul's Immerman, who was phenomenal for sports, 534 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: illustrated with his mock dress and had had a great 535 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: job on TV all those years at the YESCN with dot. 536 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Paul's a good friend of mine and Paul when I 537 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: saw I saw him at the draft in the mid eighties. 538 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: I came, we came in to do the draft. He 539 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: was doing the draft, so we come in a couple 540 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: of days before something. It was at the grand ballroom 541 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: of the Marriott Marquee. So I walked in, take his 542 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: hand and Paul I was anything, what do you think 543 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: you're a leader of rock band? You get that? Can 544 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: you get that haircut? So they all, Paul tell me 545 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: back in the day, I would have got the haircut. 546 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Kim made sure of it, but Denny Kyper, my cousin, 547 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: is now cutting my hair. Kim passed towards Danny. Actually, 548 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: Benny's coming over Sunday to cut it the last cut 549 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: before the draft. Uh. They actually Stephanie Drulie against him, 550 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: want to actually televise the final haircut of mine before 551 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: the draft. And obviously right, you know me, I'm refusing that. 552 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: There's no way, so I said, no dance. So that 553 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: stuffing was a little disappointed. You actually wanted to put 554 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: that out like reality teavs big Now that I said, 555 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: no chances anybody coming into my house the cameras watching 556 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: my haircut cut, that ain't happening. I refuse that that request. 557 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: But now it's stilling interesting over the other thing. Getting 558 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: older takes Everett Ryan. Enjoy it, you can, because I'm 559 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna do that's half very very quickly to nothing about well, 560 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: I look forward to all stages of the Mel Kiper 561 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: haircut call. Me ant do a great job, man, all right, 562 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: thank you, Mel take care? All right, Well, good stuff 563 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: from Mel. Had to end it with a hair question, natural, 564 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, well, your your hair was the topic of 565 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: conversation during Hardbull's press conferences for like a solid month 566 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: last year. That's true. I wonder what hard is to 567 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: think of milk Kiper's heir. He's he's the original big 568 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: hair guy exactly. I'm kind of the following follower in 569 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: that regard. Well, Harves legs mine hind tight. Yeah, not 570 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: the same style, not the same style at all. No, 571 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: but I think I'm heading that way. Mine is like 572 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: I said to me, it's poofy. It's I have trouble 573 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: containing it. It's it's just a little fuch. I got you. 574 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, before we go, let's talk a little bit 575 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: about the draft here. Okay, so we're less than two 576 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: weeks away, Garrett, use your first round pick. Well, I'm 577 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: not giving away my first round pick. We will do 578 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: the full seven round mock here in a couple of weeks. 579 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: So I don't want you to get any ideas. I 580 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: think I'm honing in. I think I am honing in 581 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: on who's going to be And so I don't want 582 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: you to try to steal, because that would be your move. 583 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Your move. You've never had an original thought. You just 584 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: thought to try to take my great ideas. So I 585 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: think that maybe what happens, you think what happens if 586 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: I tell you who we're going to draft, who I'm 587 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: going to take in my bock draft, then you're probably 588 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna try to steal. So but here's what I do think. 589 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: This is an idea that I think a lot of 590 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: people agree with, is that I think that it's very 591 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: clear that the Ravens want to trade back in the 592 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: first round, and I think they will be able to 593 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: find a partner to do so. I think if they 594 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: stay at twenty two, they're not drafting a wide receiver. 595 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: I think they stay at twenty two, they will draft 596 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: an interior offensive lineman or a defensive stud that falls 597 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: down the board, whether that be a Devon Bush or 598 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: a clone Ferrell. Cleveland Ferrell, thank you, you know what 599 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: it looks of Clellan. But he he no, he didn't 600 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: correct me. He had correct somebody's Cland Okay, Cleveland Farrell 601 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: or Devin Bush, those would be probably my two guys 602 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: I would point to who could fall down the board 603 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: or I think it could be a Garrett Bradberry, the 604 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: center from NC State or Eric McCoy the center from Texas. 605 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: And that would be my projection. If they were to 606 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: some for some reason just the phone doesn't ring, they 607 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: get caught at twenty two and say, all right, here 608 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: we go. So you know what I was thinking about. 609 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: So last week we went on the deep dive with 610 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Wide Rechiver and really dove into that topic, and you 611 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: brought up the point that in this offense it's not 612 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: as significant as it is another offenses, which I agree with. However, 613 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: when you look at need and I've been one that's 614 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: saying all along that I love the idea of the 615 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: biggest needs right absolutely like offensive line, even though I 616 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: have said all along I've loved the idea of adding 617 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: another stud that if you come in and poll, are 618 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: you getting off the no. The ironic think I've said 619 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: this all along though, is that the offensive line is 620 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: not really a need in the sense that you have 621 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: all five guys coming back. It's just it's an up 622 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: great situation exactly exactly. I mean, you have Alex Lewis 623 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: and James Hurst that left guard. Presumably you should get 624 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: pretty quality play from one of those guys as your starter. 625 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: UM now has dealt with injuries. He's not right, and 626 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: James dealt with the back injury last year really was 627 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: the first time he dealt with an injury. UM But, 628 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens have had a lot of success 629 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: in their offensive line with James Hurst as they're starting 630 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: left guard. The year, the year prior um. But I 631 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: think the reason that you say, a lot of people 632 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: say it's time for an upgrade there and let's not. 633 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: And also, Matt screw a center right, so he started 634 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: all sixteen last last season. He started right guard when 635 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: Jando was out the previous year. So he's he's an 636 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: ascending player. I think he's getting better. But you know, 637 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: is he the long long term answer. Is he a 638 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: guy that you say, oh, yeah, he's a top notch center. 639 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Probably not at this point. I mean, I think he's 640 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: a solid player. But when you have an offense like 641 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens project to have where you're gonna run the 642 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: ball a lot, you really look at it and say, 643 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I want to have a A, B, A offensive line, right, 644 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: you have an awesome other line to really pair with that. Now, 645 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: the flip side is you also can't just be a 646 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: one dimensional attack if you don't draft any good wide 647 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: receivers and you just like can't throw the ball well 648 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: because you don't have any good wide receivers on the outside. Well, now, like, heck, 649 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: that's not dropping an extra man in the box. They're 650 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna drop two at guys in the box. Three action box. 651 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: You know like they can. Yeah, And that's always been 652 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: my argument with the wide receiver position is like, you 653 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: need to you know, you want to, you need to 654 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: add quality players. They're like, that is obviously the bigger need. 655 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: And so while I agree the position may not be 656 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: as significant, the need is much greater. So how do 657 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: you balance those things well? And I do think, I say, 658 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: if they stay at two, I think it's the interior 659 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: alignment or defense player. I do think if they trade 660 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: back in late in the first round, early second round, 661 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I do think that a wide receiverse lost Joe or 662 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: Teas is peeking into a room you can't wait to 663 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: get on the lost Come in, Joe. Yeah, you can 664 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: do the interview right now. You get a teaser. Oh, Joe, 665 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: come on, we are recording. God is the third bike teaser? Right? 666 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm stay long with no No, you're good. We'll limen 667 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: it to one minute. Here noise walking by, and you know, 668 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was, And as I got closer, 669 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: I realized there was a bunch of people talking about 670 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: nothing they know. Full disclosure, We did see Joe at 671 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: lunch just a little bit ago and Garrett and we 672 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: called him over. I said Joe, we want to run 673 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: by you who are favorite Roger receiver is? And Joe 674 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: is like tell him what she said. I don't remember 675 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: what I said. I probably said something like tell me 676 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: what your list is and I'll use it during the draft. 677 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know anything. Yeah, you're basically like 678 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: we've just had hours. Like yeah, yeah, that part, Yeah, yeah, 679 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: I said. The last thing I wanna do is sit 680 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: here right now and listen to more people's opinions on players. 681 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: I just had to deal with six straight days of it, 682 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: so lend a little bit of a break. But I 683 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: heard you guys rolling in here, so I had to 684 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: see what was going on in with the fogged windows. 685 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: I can't you can't see through it, so I had 686 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: to get down the ground, little glass at the bottom. Well, 687 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: thanks for sting in the last last question, what was 688 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: the most heated moment in these draft meetings this year? Um, honestly, 689 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: there were no heated moms. I know it's probably let down, 690 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: but that's what happens when you get a bunch of 691 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: guys that have been together for well, I guess eleven, 692 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: now twelve. This will be John's twelfth draft with US, 693 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of the Scouts have been here, We've 694 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: all grown up here. So Um, Eric Auzzi, George Vince, Chad, myself, 695 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: we've been together for twenty years um, and then the 696 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: rest of the guys who are just a couple of 697 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: years behind, you know, staggered along. So it's just a 698 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: really really good respect and a really really good flow 699 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: to the meetings and everyone just you're in there talking 700 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: about your opinion and what's best for the Ravens. So 701 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: I think when you go into the meetings knowing that, hey, 702 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: what we're gonna try to accomplish yours, but the best 703 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: board we can together to come up with the best eight, 704 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: the ten, however may picks, we end up with players 705 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: that we can get to make this team better. Everyone's 706 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: going into with that idea. So there's no you know, arguing, yelling. 707 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: You have disagreements, sure, you know, and and people may 708 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: be passionate, but never never really gets heated, never really 709 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: gets um too bad. Sometimes it gets long winded. You know, 710 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: someone may talk and talk and talk, you know, and 711 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: it could just be because you're passionate about a guy, 712 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: or you're passionate about an idea, and so they can 713 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: get you want to move it along to the next guy, 714 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: but no, I do joke around with the guys. Are 715 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: draft rooms bigger? I don't know if you guys have 716 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: shown we put that out anywhere out of it's nice 717 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: spigger and it's got there was big you know, digital 718 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: displays in it, giants whatever computer screens real lack of 719 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: a better term, but um, it's huge. And there's like 720 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the noise and it's glass, so like there's not a 721 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: good there's nothing that grabs sound like sucks in the 722 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: white noise, I guess. So it's really cavernous, like it's 723 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: hard to hear people. So Eric and myself and Ozzie 724 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: are down at one end of the table, John and 725 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, and some of the coaches, and then the 726 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: scouts are. There's some scouts at the other end the table, 727 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: and Eric and I sit next to each other and 728 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: just like I can't hear and so I go down 729 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: to them during a break. I'm like, hey, John, can 730 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: you hear me? Because there was one time when I 731 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: was talking and looking at him after I said something, 732 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: and he's like shaking his head and I'm like, can 733 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: you know. He's like, I can hear you sometimes it 734 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't need to know. I'm like, well, we can't hear 735 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: you either, Like if we don't even know what anyone say. 736 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's like like when you're reading, when you're 737 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: looking at the screen and reading what you're saying, you're 738 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: not really projected you're reading. So when that happens, and 739 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: so like if John's reading his notes or I'm reading 740 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: my notes, John may not we can hear each other, 741 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: but you have to start to hear, you know, versus 742 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: like right now we're in the room looking at each 743 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: other talking, and so it's a little bit of a challenge. 744 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: So I but it's funny because I never thought my 745 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: voice couldn't be heard, because I hear it finding you know, 746 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the guys around me, we don't have an issue, but 747 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: we have a here hard time yearing down there. So 748 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: it's really the position you're at. Like if I'm on 749 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the table on the end left 750 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: to right, I'm on the right side table. So the 751 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: guys talking on the right side, they can't hear me, 752 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: and I can't hear them, But I can hear anyone 753 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: on the left side because they're talking towards me. So 754 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: that's we got to figure that out of that. I 755 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: have this little bell. I have this little bell that 756 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: I used for the game contest one year with the Scouts, 757 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: and I thought about taking the bell and just putting 758 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: it at each getting another one and putting at each 759 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: end of the table. And whenever you can't anyone can hear, 760 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: just sell it just and they just gotta perk up 761 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: and start talking. So then it will happen. This will 762 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: become path loss dogs and people will just do anyway 763 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: just to make people talk. So and then everybody's like, 764 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: is it time for lunch? Yeah, but no it was. 765 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: It was good, good round, a lot of fun and 766 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: uh looking looking looking forward to the next two weeks. 767 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Do we get to opening night? So to speak. It's 768 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: fun times, fun time. Well, thanks for stopping. Yeah, we'll 769 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: be We'll be back with you later. This doesn't count, 770 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: by the way, is your podcast. I don't like you're 771 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: getting all that easy, see you, Joe? All right, so 772 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: you never know in the Lash, Yeah exactly, literally stops 773 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: by the last exactly, just like the title week. It 774 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: never actually happens like our headlines say, they just stopped in. 775 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: But there you go. Uh So anyway, thanks for listening. 776 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the lounge at 777 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net and we will be back 778 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: with you with Joe and more draft talk as we 779 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: get prepared for what should be a very exciting draft. 780 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.