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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across

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Speaker 3: He's a true icon in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet.

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity.

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Speaker 3: This is Stu Box and this is Stupidity. Here we go,

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Speaker 3: jim On.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome he to another episode of Stupidity, the

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Speaker 2: biggest podcast in the world. Thanks to you. Please subscribe,

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Speaker 2: rate and review, unsubscribe, resubscribe, rerate, re review, and as always,

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Speaker 2: listening is optional. About that, I want to tell you

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Speaker 2: before I tell you who the guest is is going

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Speaker 2: to be that I was supposed to do a thing

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Speaker 2: with my microphone that Mike Ryan went over it with me.

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Speaker 2: I think Chris Whittingham did as well, clearly went over it. Listen,

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Speaker 2: it's a Yenni microphone into a computer and I'm out

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Speaker 2: don't know a forty seven years old and I have

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Speaker 2: no idea what they're They're speaking a foreign language to me,

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Speaker 2: and so what I want you to laugh at is

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Speaker 2: just how bad the audio is My audio during the

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Speaker 2: interview that's coming up. My guest audio is perfect. Why

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Speaker 2: because he did it from his studios. We are two

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Speaker 2: weeks removed here from our time at ESPN, which we

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Speaker 2: love very much. But there's really only a couple with people,

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Speaker 2: maybe one person I could speak to about life after ESPNS.

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Speaker 2: Want to make sure that we're gonna be okay. And

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Speaker 2: one of those people, or I guess the only person

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Speaker 2: is Dan Patrick. Now again, listen how good his audio is,

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Speaker 2: and listen how bad mine is. And I apologize and

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Speaker 2: know that it's all I make. It is not a mic,

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Speaker 2: It is not a witty. They went over this with me.

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Speaker 2: I just had no idea what they were like. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but damn Patrick is coming up right now.

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Speaker 3: Bobby, Oh, hello, Dan, I'm sober now, So I mean

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Speaker 3: how about your.

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Speaker 2: Show up on time? For crying out loud?

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why you so?

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Speaker 2: Why are you so aggressive?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just damn.

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Speaker 3: I that's when I'm that way with the shorties, and

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Speaker 3: I am that way with you. You're short too.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you're right, you're right, well played, I know,

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Speaker 2: but damn. When I asked you to come on the podcast,

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Speaker 3: And then I think I said thanks for the heads

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Speaker 3: up all the hy can you do it tomorrow? And

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Speaker 4: Although I have to say I've worked with you for

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Speaker 4: two weeks now, Stu gots and that is an appropriate response.

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Speaker 2: It is yes, it is yes. That's how most people

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Speaker 2: should respond to me. You're right, bikey.

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Speaker 5: Fuck even before I see the message.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, how was the show today?

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Speaker 3: Dan oh is award winning? Yeah? This wonderful?

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Speaker 2: What do you guys talk about? What you do?

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Speaker 3: Let's cut the fucking small talk? All right, let's get

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Speaker 3: right into the podcast. All right, we are this is

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Speaker 2: Yes, you want to take it where you want to

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Speaker 2: take it? Where do you want to go?

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Speaker 3: I know, I just thought i'd get a formal introduct

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Speaker 3: like nobody cares about how is the show? And would

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I think people do care.

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Speaker 5: Now they wants me to start with you and me

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, That's what I like, because yeah, people are

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Speaker 3: going to think I was late and you were twenty

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Speaker 2: Dan, I was a day in nineteen minutes late. We

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Speaker 3: So my apology you were twenty four hours and nineteen

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Speaker 3: minutes late. That's not bad for your own podcast. Well done,

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Speaker 3: Stu Guts.

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Speaker 2: We are talking to one of the greats, a legend

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Speaker 2: with this man because I grew up watching this man.

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Speaker 2: Does that make you feel old when I say that

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Speaker 2: I grew up watching this man? But I did? I

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Speaker 2: grew up watching you, Dan.

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Speaker 5: It is Dan.

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Speaker 2: Patrick, host of The Dan Patrick Show. Of course legendary

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Speaker 2: sports that are anchor as well. Dan, Does that make

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Speaker 2: you feel old when people say they grew up watching it.

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Speaker 2: Dan and I are starting to get some of that now. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we grew up listening to you guys.

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Speaker 3: No, I always wonder what you're doing when you're watching me.

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Speaker 3: That's what I always think of, because you don't want

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Speaker 3: I wonder what people are doing when they're watching Sports Center,

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Speaker 2: Yes, and what did you ever like imagine what it

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Speaker 2: good addition to Sports Center? I think we all know

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Speaker 2: imagine to yourself what were what people were doing?

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Speaker 3: Well, it might have been a feel good addition for you.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you were doing at home, well, I know, don't

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Speaker 2: No, no, and then one thing would lead to another.

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Speaker 2: So you imagine couples having sex while watching Dan Patrick sports. Second,

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Speaker 5: It, right.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, and if not, it was a solo solo

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Speaker 2: So Dan, I will ask you this. I'm not certain

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Speaker 2: of me, a lebatar. What the hell do we do now? Dan?

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Speaker 3: I tried to give Levatar GUIDs, but I you know,

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Speaker 3: there's part of me that realized you have to. You

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Speaker 3: you won't know what that feeling is like when all

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Speaker 3: And those are powerful letters. They are, and even more

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Speaker 3: were basically it was a kind of a career death

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Speaker 3: sentence that what are you doing. You left ESPN. What's

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Speaker 3: And that's why you left esp They don't want you anymore.

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Speaker 3: You have these thoughts, People have those opinions. But I

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Speaker 3: nice to get out of Shawshank, but once you get

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Speaker 3: But there was beauty in that that it was freeing

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting, Yeah, and I think Dan and I

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Well, it's a trump card. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Sure, it's a bit harder to do with TV that

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Speaker 2: I think you really love radio.

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Speaker 3: I love radio more than I do TV. You know,

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Speaker 3: I don't miss football night in America. I don't miss

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they want to know what it's like.

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Speaker 3: you don't want the pressure you all of a sudden,

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00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: you know, over them in and I and we've been

435
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 3: elevated here and yeah, then you got to live up

436
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: to that billing. And you don't want that. You don't

437
00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: want the pressure.

438
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick with us here on stupidity.

439
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 3: I do think you guys should have done this. And

440
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: I don't like to program this.

441
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: Is I love.

442
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: No, please program our show. We don't. Okay, listen, I

443
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: am telling you right now. You guys have been programming

444
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: our shows in ways that you just don't know.

445
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, tells me, He goes, we took your

446
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 3: stat of the day. I go, all right, whatever, he goes, Yeah,

447
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 3: we're not giving it back.

448
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 6: I go.

449
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: At least you told me. I thought that you guys

450
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: should have gotten to the big announcement, and you and

451
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 3: Dan both had big announcements and you were going to

452
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: make them, and then you were going to make them

453
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: at the same time as if you both were going

454
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: to say we're leaving ESPN. And I thought it would

455
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: have been great if you would have been you would

456
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: have said at the same time when Lebtard says, and

457
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: we're going to leave ESPN, that you say, and I'm

458
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: going to stay at ESPN. And just that just just

459
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: how awkward it would have been if Levatard goes, okay, Steve,

460
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 3: got you ready, one, two, three, we.

461
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: Wait what.

462
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: You might be feeling that way in about six months

463
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: where you go to Levatardy.

464
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: Six months, six weeks, six ways. I just told you

465
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: I feel naked now.

466
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: I will say this. When I first started, when I

467
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: left ESPN first week on air, we're in Los Angeles,

468
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: so it's three hours earlier. It's six to nine am local,

469
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: and Paulie's with me. I think I have twenty three affiliates,

470
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: and I remember where we're having. You know, we had

471
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: Phil Jackson on. I think we had David Beckham like

472
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: we had great guests on. But Paulie got yelled at

473
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: because we replayed a segment two hours later. The program

474
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: director was upset because he heard it when he got up,

475
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: and then he heard it when he was driving in

476
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: and he got upset. And I, you know the sound

477
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: proof class. When you can hear through the sound proof class,

478
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: then you know that somebody is really yelling. And I

479
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: could hear through the sound proof glass that Paulie was

480
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: being yelled at. And I got through the show at

481
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 3: nine and and Paulie was great because this is at

482
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: eight forty where Paulie's getting yelled at. I got to

483
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: go up. I got twenty more minutes here, and I am,

484
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: I can't imagine why he's getting yelled at. And I said,

485
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: what happened? He goes not don't worry about I'll say

486
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: after the show. After the show, I said to Paulie, said,

487
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: what happened? You know what? We replayed a segment and

488
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, you know the guys, you know your boss

489
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: didn't like it. I mean, we're tired, and you know,

490
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: so I'm feeling horrible. First week, first week that we're

491
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: on Sure. So nine point fifteen, I'm walking back to

492
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: my hotel. We're in Burbank, and I call my wife.

493
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: I said, I think I just made the biggest mistake

494
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: in my life. She goes what I told her, What's

495
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: what happened? We're walk I walk by and there's a

496
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: a pizza pizzeria and the guy is in there mopping

497
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: the floor. So it's nine thirty, not open until eleven,

498
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: I think, and I'm bang on the door, no no,

499
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: and I go yes, yes, and I the guy opened

500
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 3: the door, and I said, look, can I just get

501
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: a picture of beer and I'll order pizza when you're

502
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: when you're open. It's nine thirty and he's mopping the floor,

503
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: so like I have to lift my feet up and

504
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: he's mopping underneathing. And I sat there and drank a

505
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: pitcher of beer and then I ordered a pizza. I

506
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: don't even think I ate it. I just ordered it.

507
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: And I walked back and Paulie said, just take a nap,

508
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: wake up. And I think we wanted to go to

509
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: porn star karaoke that night at Sardo's where they actually

510
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: have porn stars who come in and do karaoke and

511
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: that'll fix anything. And then I was fine the next day,

512
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: like we got a verbal spanking, a picture of beer.

513
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Porn star karaoke and I was back.

514
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 6: I was it.

515
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: I did.

516
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: I did have that moment where I went, Oh my god,

517
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: what did I just do? And two months earlier, I've

518
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: got three hundred stations at ESPN. Now I have twenty three.

519
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: I'm drinking a picture of beer at nine to thirty

520
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: local time. Oh, we went for three You next Tuesday,

521
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 3: that is you next Tuesday.

522
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: If that makes way.

523
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 7: Levatar was drinking the quila on the second episode of

524
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 7: the podcast, and somehow Mike Ryan has wrote me into

525
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 7: smoking a joint with Chris Long on air.

526
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. Oh I like it.

527
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 6: I like it.

528
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: Maybe some gummies.

529
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Dan, do you remember it like that? Because

530
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: it's funny because we went from I think we had

531
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: like three hundred and FOURGIT affiliates coast to coast. Now

532
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: we have none. Now we have a digital network. Okay,

533
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: And Dan and I, you know, we're getting older. I

534
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: was cravy today. I just have a bumper. I wanted

535
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: to rejoin. I just wanted like some radio stuff because

536
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: because Dan and I are so old. But that that day,

537
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: like the day you left ESPN, do you remember that

538
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: day and what you felt and what you were thinking, like,

539
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: were you thinking right then? And there? Dad, big mistake?

540
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, okay. But but I was given

541
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: an ultimatum by my boss Sports Center, And I don't

542
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: do well with ultimatums, right, because if you give me

543
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: an ultimatum, do you really want me to stay? And

544
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: I'd stayed three years longer than I should have. Yeah,

545
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: I just wasn't getting any better. You know. I started

546
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: to color my hair to make myself look younger, and

547
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: I looked I didn't. I wasn't good on the air.

548
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: I loved covering the NBA. I love that, but I

549
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: wasn't getting any better. I'd kind of reached that glass ceiling.

550
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: And so when I left that day, and usually they

551
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: escort you out like and I even said, look, if

552
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: I was going to steal something, I wouldn't be stealing

553
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: at the last day. I would have stolen a week ago,

554
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: two weeks ago. And all I wanted was all of

555
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: our interviews from the show. I wanted the library of

556
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: all the things that we did. That's all I wanted.

557
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: I didn't care about, you know, anything in my office

558
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: or whatever. So I drive home, and you know, so

559
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: I get there, I don't know what time. It is,

560
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: probably six thirty or something like that. And my daughter's

561
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: there and my daughter is nine at the time, eight

562
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: at the time, something like that. And so my youngest

563
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: is out in the driveway, pull in out in the

564
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: drivers I said, oh man, my wife, she's awesome. Send

565
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: my daughter out. I'll welcome home Dad, the whole thing.

566
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: So my daughter comes up. I parked the car, and

567
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: I'd still in the car in the driver's seat, and

568
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: then she says, hey, Dad, I said, heym, should I

569
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: be honest with you? And I'm thinking, here comes She's

570
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: going to say, I love you, Glad you're home. I

571
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: said you should, Yeah, you should always be honest with me. Yeah,

572
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: no matter what I said, Dan, matter like, come on,

573
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: just say you love me. And then she goes, okay,

574
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: even if it hurts your feelings. And I go, oh man,

575
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: she's gonna make me cry. She can tell me. She goes, yeah,

576
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: you got a booger in your nose, Dad, and then

577
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: she walked away. So I thought, okay, that didn't end

578
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: the way I thought I was going too. And then

579
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: I walked inside and all my kids were at the

580
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: kitchen table, four of them, and my wife, and it

581
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: was dead silence, and then finally my son goes, is

582
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: this a good thing?

583
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: Dad?

584
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 3: And I said, it's a great thing, and they started

585
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: banging on the kitchen table for you know, about two minutes.

586
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: And then fast forward to about two weeks later, I'm

587
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: on the front porch with the family dog and no

588
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: one's at home, and I don't and then it starts

589
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: to sync in I left ESPN. Nobody leaves ESPN unless

590
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: they're asked to. But I left, and that's when I

591
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: called Pauli and we went and got beer and wings,

592
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: and he kind of talked me down off the ledge

593
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: and he just said, hey, you know, we'll figure it out.

594
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: And that's sort of been our motto ever since, is

595
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: you just figure it out. And that's what you and

596
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: Levittard will do. It's you have a great group, great audience.

597
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: You'll figure it out, and the audience will be along

598
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: for the ride with you.

599
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and great part of it. And they've shown it

600
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: already on the podcast network. But I had the same

601
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: experience with my family friends at already. It's like people

602
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: Daniel leave ESPN. Levatard and I didn't say we were retiring.

603
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: We just said, really, we just said we were leaving ESPN,

604
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: and it's like he and I were a bit startled

605
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: by people who were congratulating us on great careers, like, hey,

606
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: we're not stopping, We're just gonna go somewhere else. But

607
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 2: I think we feel a bit better now, perhaps than

608
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: you did when you left, because the digital game has

609
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: exploded in such a way and we know that we're

610
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: a digital monster, and so I think that makes us

611
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: feel a little bit better. I want to get back

612
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: to something you said earlier, because I found it to

613
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: be super interesting. Are the dan Nettes kind of your gauge?

614
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Are they the audience? So if they are laughing or

615
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: if they're engaged, do you then know that you're onto

616
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: something good? Are you using those four guys to gauge

617
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: the entire audience basically.

618
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: Because Dana and I are yeah, yeah, having a studio audience.

619
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: And but you know these guys are they're they're trained

620
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: to listen there. You know, they worked in radio most

621
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: of their lives and just what you hear because I

622
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: do this show for radio, I don't do it for TV.

623
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: And I and I think that's a pretty good sounding

624
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: board to be able to have those guys who who

625
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: know me and know the show and the nuances of it.

626
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 3: But it's important because I couldn't do a solo now

627
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: that I've done this, Yes, I could never go back

628
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: to because I got I didn't want to hear my voice.

629
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: I got tired of hearing me and I don't have

630
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: all the answers. I'm not somebody who can carry a

631
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: program by themselves all three hours, or even if I can't,

632
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't like that sound.

633
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Damn, it's hard to do that, man.

634
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: I like.

635
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: I like sort of the cacophony of sounds that you

636
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 3: get where it's sound effects or it's something that Fritzy

637
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: says or seat and says, or an interview or whatever

638
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: those things are. It's just there's sensory overload at times.

639
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: And that's what I always wanted. I love being that

640
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: in the see of being in your car, being in

641
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: your head. Really to start there that you're allowing me in.

642
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: And there's no better compliment than we have is when

643
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: somebody allows you in and you're part of their everyday life.

644
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: And I never take that for granted. And I always

645
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: say that to the dan Ns. Every day is the

646
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: super Bowl. Every day is the fucking Super Bowl, and

647
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: you have to approach it that way. I mean, we

648
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Speaker 3: may be you know, John Elways Broncos against the Redskins,

649
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: but we're still in the super Bowl. You know, we

650
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: may not win, but you have to approach it that way.

651
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 3: And I tell them that's how important it is, because

652
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: if I don't, then it sounds like I'm mailing it in.

653
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: And I did that on Sports Center at the end

654
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 3: of my career, and I'll never have that feeling again.

655
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 5: Dan.

656
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: People ask me all the time the most valuable lesson

657
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: that I've learned from anyone about how to do radio

658
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: or what's important to do a good radio show. Now

659
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: this will for us how funny coming from me, But

660
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: I give them a very simple answer. You came out

661
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: on our radio show early on with me at Levatard

662
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: and Dan asked you that exact question, and your simple

663
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: response was listen, just listen, And you said that to

664
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: me one time, and it is so rather than trying

665
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: to get to your next question, listen to the response

666
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: because the next question might be within their last answer

667
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: and you'll miss it if you're not listening.

668
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: And normally it is. And I tell people when they say, hey,

669
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, how do I become a better interviewer? I said, well,

670
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: first of all, drop the word interviewer. Yeah, you want

671
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: to be a conversationalist, Like a conversation is what you

672
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: want to have. I don't want it to be I

673
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: ask a question, you provide an answer. There's nothing better

674
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: than if I give you a question that you have

675
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: an answer, then you might ask a question in return

676
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: with me. Now we have a dialogue. And I think

677
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: that's what's it's fun to listen and I always approach

678
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: the interviews and I hope that I leave you with

679
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: something that person said that you'll tell somebody who tells

680
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: somebody who tells somebody. That's my goal every time. But

681
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: it's amazing what you'll hear when you listen. And it

682
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: sounds strange, but people in our industry aren't necessarily the

683
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: best listeners because a were insecure that we don't want

684
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 3: to ask a question that's why, how?

685
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 5: Where?

686
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: Who?

687
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: What?

688
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: Because you don't want the audience to think he doesn't

689
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: even know what he's talking about. I may know your answer,

690
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: the audience doesn't know your answer, and to get that

691
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: answer in its context, I could say why biggest reason

692
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: why you left ESPN.

693
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: Because well, I trusted Leviatard and I felt like our

694
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: audience would follow us anywhere, and so that's.

695
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: The reason I left esp Why did you trust Dan?

696
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: Twenty years and no one values me the way Dan does,

697
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 2: not ESPN, not ever, not any entity I've ever worked

698
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: for the place. The person I have the most value

699
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: too is the Levatard in that show.

700
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: But all those things are is ask a question and

701
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: get the hell out of the way.

702
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: That's it. Let him go, yes, let him go.

703
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: And a lot of times what happens is that we

704
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 3: want to ask a question, answer a question, then ask

705
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: a question, and it's not good radio. And you know,

706
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: I did a seminar at ESPN five days, eight hours

707
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: each day on just interviewing. Wow, It's the most important

708
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 3: thing I've ever done in my career because it taught

709
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: me what I didn't know, what I thought I knew

710
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: about asking questions, having the research. You know, one thing

711
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: that Levitard does well in interviews is that he'll have

712
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: a little nugget that he always has in his back

713
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: pocket that I can always play, that I can always

714
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: get to, that I can steer the conversation. Those things

715
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: are really really important. And this is what I tell

716
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: my guys when we're researching. I want something that nobody

717
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: else knows, or that person knows that I've done my

718
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: homework on them. Yes, because they're athletes, you've got to

719
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: compete with them. They compete with everything. I'm competing for

720
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: your answers. If I have Aaron rodgers On and you

721
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: guys know Aaron quite well, I got to compete, like

722
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: I got to work and he's going to make me work.

723
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: But that's I go into battle. When I go into

724
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: an interview, it's I got to get something out of

725
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: you that's important for my audience. But I got to

726
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 3: get out of the way and not make it about

727
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: my People say, boy, you ask great questions. I'll go, yeah,

728
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: but what are the answers? Like a great question, it

729
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: is not a great question without a great answer, Dan.

730
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: I sometimes think, if you have that nugget we always do,

731
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: if you don't get to get that means the interview

732
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: was fantastic.

733
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, like your hope is you never get to

734
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: it right.

735
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

736
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: There are times when you go, oh, I didn't even

737
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: bring that up. Yes, and then you go okay, you

738
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: know you sort of do that reminder of I'll do

739
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: it the next time. But that's what's fun when you

740
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: get but you know, you're getting what five to seven,

741
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: seven to ten minutes with somebody, and you know it's

742
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to get something of value out of

743
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: them unless you know you go, you go in and

744
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: it's sort of like the game of operation. You know,

745
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: Am I down here on the knee? Am I on

746
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: the shoulder? Am I going right for the heart? Am

747
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: I going for the head. That's the approach you have

748
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: to have. Nick Saban is a tough interview. I rarely

749
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: ask him simple Alabama questions. You know, when I say,

750
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, what were you listening to on the way in?

751
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: And so now I've got him out of his Nick

752
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: Saban vacuum. He's in his he's in his car in

753
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: a truck. Now he's telling me, and now it's something different.

754
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: One of the strangest things I ever asked him was

755
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 3: I said, hey, Josh Jacobs told me a story about

756
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: these nuts and and and so Nick has dse nuts

757
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: jokes where in practice he'll joke around with players and

758
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: then he'll grab his junk and talk about these nuts.

759
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 3: So I thought, how do I ask Nick Saban about

760
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: these nuts? And I said to Paulie, I said, I'm

761
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: going to ask about these nuts. Oh god, I don't know.

762
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I got to ask these nuts. And

763
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: it's one of those where you can almost see the

764
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: words leaving their mouth and you're asking. So coach, we

765
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: had Josh Jacobs on and uh, you know, he was

766
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: talking about how you have fun with the players, and

767
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: he said that, you know, sometimes you'll uh bring up

768
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: the expression d's nuts. Can you confirm that? And he laughed.

769
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: He started laughing, and then he goes, yeah, yeah, I've

770
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: been known to have a little fun with the like.

771
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: It was just one of those where you going and

772
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: my guys on the other side of the glass are like,

773
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 3: celerbrate one these nuts, you know, if if, But you

774
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 3: have to build up some kind of relationship with somebody

775
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: to ask about these nuts. Uh. But you know that's

776
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: the fun part of it, when you go, let's have

777
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: fun with it and let me ask you some of

778
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: these questions. It's nuts, these nuts. Nuts.

779
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you out of here in the second.

780
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: You appreciate the top of Dan Patrick show. Check it

781
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: out the Dan Atts. They're fantastic. H Dan, I'm gonna

782
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: play a little game with you here at the very

783
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: end here with the dan ats, in fact, the two

784
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: seconds here. But before I do that, mikey a me Levatar,

785
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: the shipping contator. The real reason we wanted you today

786
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: is we have you know, we're on we're we're barking

787
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: on our post ESPN error. You're well into yours and

788
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: you have been very successful to me. So uh, just Dan,

789
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: tell me I'm gonna be okay. That's what I need,

790
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: some soothing. Just tell me Dan, okay, because you become

791
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: a mentor to me, someone I admire very much. Dan DP,

792
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: look at me. Tell me I'm gonna be okay.

793
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Now look at me when I tell you this. Okay,

794
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: Lebotard is going to be okay.

795
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 5: That is perfect.

796
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: All right, you're ready for a little game. I don't

797
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: want anymore. I don't care if I'm gonna be.

798
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, all right, here's the game for you.

799
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here. Paulie mclovin, Fritzy or seatan. Okay,

800
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions here. You

801
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: tell me the guy most at least likely, okay. Most

802
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: likely to help Dan Patrick bury a body Paulie mc

803
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: lovin Fritzy or Seatan.

804
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Paully has already.

805
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: I have no doubt.

806
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: I'd say Paulie okay, ye, perfect, okay again okay.

807
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: Most likely to wrap you out to the cops Paulie

808
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: McK loving Fritzy or.

809
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: Seaton Fritzy without even knowing he was doing it. He would,

810
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: he would, he would because he can't shut up.

811
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: Right, guy, that's fair good. Most likely to go to

812
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: a nudist colony Paulie mc loving Fritzy or Seaton.

813
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: I'd say Fritzy, but out of everybody, he should be

814
00:43:51,880 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: the last guy to want to go to a US. Yeah, yeah,

815
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: I know. It's always the guy where you go? What

816
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: are you thinking?

817
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: Like this?

818
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: Really?

819
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: Why are you here?

820
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: You noticed? Like you know what you know? Brad Pitt

821
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: doesn't go to a newdist count.

822
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: John Goodman does.

823
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach Gallifanakis goes.

824
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: So right yeah?

825
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

826
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: Most likely to skip out on a bill Paulie mclove it, Fritzy, Seaton.

827
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: It's not a four way tie, but it's close. I

828
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: would I would say Fritzy and Fritzie or McLevin Okay,

829
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: would probably do that.

830
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: Most likely to bail Dan Patrick at a prison. They

831
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: better all be likely to bound at a prison. Paulie mcleoven,

832
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: Fritzy or Seaton.

833
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: Well, I might call Seaton because he's probably been in

834
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: that position.

835
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Gon'll tell you where to make a left to get the.

836
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: I've probably Paulie Okay, yeah, probably Pauline.

837
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 7: The most likely of the four to take over the

838
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 7: Dan Patrick to sit in that chair with Dan Patrick,

839
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 7: decides to I think Paulie thinks it's Paulie, but I'm

840
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 7: wondering who Dan Patrick thinks it's gonna be.

841
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Paullie McLevin, Fritzy.

842
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: S when I leave, Yes, we all leave, but damn,

843
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: what are they gonna do? Fuck him? I've carried them

844
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: this far, Stu. I mean, after this they're grown men.

845
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: Let that figure it out.

846
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: Yes, they're like you, like you know, they're gonna be

847
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: in trouble. Remember when you guys got in trouble? Yes,

848
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: oh I domo cast Oh my god. I kept going

849
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: when Levittard, you guys came on my show and I

850
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: was on your show at the same time, and Leviotard goes, hey,

851
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: did you get in trouble. I go from who and

852
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: he goes, oh, we got in trouble because we came

853
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: on your show, and he goes and I said why

854
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: and they said, oh, something about you know, not allowed

855
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 3: to or something. I like, you know, I said to Paulie,

856
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: don't ask permission from anybody, just we're going to do it.

857
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: And Mike, I think, might have done the same thing

858
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: where just don't ask permission. And then I saw where

859
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: you guys got scolded a little bit, and I went

860
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: to Levotard and I felt bad for Dan because you know,

861
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: he's not afraid. He want to have fun. And we

862
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: thought it would be something interesting to be on you know,

863
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: each other's radio show at the same time. And yeah,

864
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: it didn't go well.

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00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: I took I took an unnecessary shot at you that day,

866
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: saying that you were on some no name network. Who's

867
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: laughing now, Dan.

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 6: Patrick, at least there is a name to my network.

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00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 6: You don't even have a name to your network.

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00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't even have read Joins or Bumper anymore. Dan,

871
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for doing this, man. We appreciate it.

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00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: And uh, I'm glad Levator is gonna be okay.

873
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: Uh, tell the boys I said alot, thank.

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00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: You to all right, same same to your boys. Talk

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00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: to you Okay, thanks Dan, that's good right, Uh.

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00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell how much you respect Dan Patrick

877
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: by the way, you got serious when you were talking

878
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: about interviewing like like you were like you are also

879
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: in the echelon of great interviewers. There's Dan Patrick and

880
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: Stu Gotts.

881
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Interviews.

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00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: And really I've been telling people all the time, you

883
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: gotta listen, and you gotta do that, and I'm like, yes, no,

884
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: you don't.

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00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: I've been a lifetime of not listening. I listen. No

886
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: one followed his advice less than me. In fact, since

887
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: he told me that, I don't listened to a word.

888
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: Anyone has said he was.

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00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: Talking and you were agreeing, And all I'm thinking to

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00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: myself is liar, no, no, See what it is with Dan.

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00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't just during interviews. Dan's advice to us in

892
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: general was listen. Listen to each other, listen to your producers,

893
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: because you never know when someone's gonna say something that's

894
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: going through spark a really interesting conversation, and if you're

895
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: not listening, you might miss those things. He is for

896
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: my money, Patrick and Levantard are two of the best

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00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: interviewers we have. I am not very good at interviewing,

898
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: all right, love DP. He has become a friend and

899
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: a mentor, and I appreciate his time during a very

900
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: busy time for him. Mikey A, you recently left ESPN.

901
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: I have recently left ESPN. I brought Dan Patrick Onde

902
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: to soothe us. So I ask you down you feel

903
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: any better about leaving ESPN then you did. Forty minutes ago.

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Speaker 4: You asked him if you were going to be okay,

905
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: and he did not hesitate. He said, Dan LeBatard is

906
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: going to be okay. And I'm like, well, Stu Gotts

907
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: is latched onto LeBatard and I'm latched on to Stu Gotts.

908
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: At what point does the fat get trimmed? And by fat,

909
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 5: I mean me?

910
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: So you wish you were producing Stupa South Peak sessions.

911
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: Just what you're saying.

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00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: I wish I was attached to Dan a little more

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Speaker 5: permanently than I am.

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00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Okay, like like how permanently? Like like if Dan raised

915
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: up his shirt like queto in total recall and there's

916
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: Mikey Hay's face just coming out of levatard stomach. Is

917
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Speaker 2: that what we're talking about did I get it? Ride

918
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: is a quanto queto I can't even remember.

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00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 5: No, it's quanto.

920
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: But I mean, that's that's quite. That's that's quite.

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Speaker 5: The load for Dan to be carrying around all day

922
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: is also a large man.

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00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: Right Listen, he's carrying a lot, a bigger load than

924
00:49:54,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: that he's carrying around all of us. Oh like, so

925
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: you would feel better if you were producing Levantar's podcast

926
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: as opposed to mine. You would feel close to to Dan, right,

927
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: that's fair because he said Levatary will be okay. He

928
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: did not say I'd be okay. You have no relationship

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Speaker 2: with Levatary. Your only relationship is with me. Stupidity