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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Ali.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. One of the hot topics

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Speaker 2: around the league right now, and we've talked around this

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Speaker 2: many times now, but what do you do with running

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Speaker 2: back pay?

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Speaker 1: Oh in the league right now?

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Speaker 2: Because it is and I've said this for years, if

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Speaker 2: you're not a first round pick as a running back,

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Speaker 2: you're getting screwed.

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Speaker 1: You are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way around it. I just don't

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Speaker 3: see it's getting any better. I mean it's even the

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Speaker 3: first rounders, well, there's a couple of things working against them.

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Speaker 3: Is their shelf life isn't as long as other positions.

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately, if the CBA were structured that everyone's contract

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Speaker 3: came up after their second season in the league, I

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Speaker 3: think you'd see a lot of running backs get paid

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Speaker 3: going into year three. Hit. You know, sa Quan tears

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Speaker 3: it up for two years, goes on the open market,

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Speaker 3: he's twenty five, twenty four. I think people would pay him.

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Speaker 3: But that's not how it is. So we know most

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Speaker 3: backs don't last more than five or six years as

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Speaker 3: a number one, and that's when you're already on hole

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Speaker 3: fourteen out of eighteen or ay, So that kills them.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that obviously kills them is just I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's applying demand. Of course, there's just a lot

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Speaker 3: more human beings walking the planet that can play running

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Speaker 3: back than can play left tackle. You know, walk around

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Speaker 3: them all. Walk around downtown Pittsburgh, go to a Pirate game.

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Speaker 3: You'll see two or three people that might look like

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Speaker 3: a running back. You're not gonna see anybody that looks

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Speaker 3: like the Forest Buckner or Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, every high school I get, and

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Speaker 2: here's the thing every high school. And you notice, as

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Speaker 2: somebody who used to do college recruiting, the best athlete

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Speaker 2: at every high school is the running back. In most cases,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's a quarterback, and he's a running quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you take your best athlete on any pee wee

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Speaker 2: team all the way up through high school, and you say,

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Speaker 2: you're our running back.

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Speaker 1: We want you to touch the ball.

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Speaker 3: Every every play, and it's an honor you want to

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Speaker 3: I mean, as a you're right, I want to be

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Speaker 3: the guy that gets the ball. It's the glory. I get.

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Speaker 3: The cheerleaders blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And then they go to college and you your top

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Speaker 2: athletes continue to they stay.

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Speaker 1: At running back, and you, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Recruit seven of them a year, and you say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: these two are going to stick at running back. We're

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Speaker 2: going to turn that one into a linebacker, maybe that

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Speaker 2: one turns into a wide receiver, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And then we get to the NFL and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all those other guys are going to get paid more

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Speaker 2: money than that guy, right who gets.

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Speaker 3: The crap beat out of them. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: you know, like, so it's funny because I didn't honestly

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Speaker 3: didn't know you and I were had this conversation. But

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Speaker 3: I had this exact conversation like an hour ago on

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Speaker 3: my Peacock and Williamson podcast, and my co host Peacock,

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Speaker 3: who's a Niners guy, said, in reality, Deebo Samuel and

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey really aren't any different. They could almost do

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Speaker 3: the one's job. But the guy that touches the ball

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Speaker 3: less of the two debo makes more money, worthmore. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: what doesn't compute here? So let us down another conversation too.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all these running backs are trying to band

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Speaker 3: together and get paid, and I get that. Good for them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they can help each other's cause a

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Speaker 3: little bit and awareness will help. But I don't think

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Speaker 3: the owners are going to care one bit. But if

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Speaker 3: you could decipher yourself, and maybe a McCaffrey can, and

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Speaker 3: which is what Lev Bell tried to do. You know,

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Speaker 3: Lev Bell says, I'm your best runner, and I'm your

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Speaker 3: second best pass catcher behind Antonio Brown. Okay, but I

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Speaker 3: can still find seventy five percent of you at fifty

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Speaker 2: There was a thing about that whole situation, and Bell

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Speaker 2: has come out and Sinse apologized in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers were offering him good money.

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Speaker 3: Good money, right right right, and they.

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Speaker 1: Pay him on the franchise stack good money right.

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Speaker 3: Well, he just started up.

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Speaker 2: He was talking about resetting the market. That contract would

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Speaker 2: have he wasn't going to reset the market. Would have

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Speaker 2: been top the market, bro, it would have been top

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I can't stress enough with a bad business decision he made. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you only get five or six good years

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Speaker 3: as a running back, and you took zero dollars for

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Speaker 3: one year to throw one of those years away. But

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Speaker 3: I will say, to his credit, and I'm sure Jacobs

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Speaker 3: and Barkley are trying to do that now too. Maybe

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Speaker 3: we could be trendsetters for future running backs if we

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Speaker 3: take a hit this year to prove a point. But

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Speaker 3: it's you're not gonna win.

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Speaker 1: You really well.

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Speaker 2: The only trend that he set was putting it in

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Speaker 2: the in the public eye that these guys can can

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Speaker 2: hold out for an entire season. They don't have to

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Speaker 2: sign the franchise tag. Because now you have sakuon Barkley

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Speaker 2: talking about not perhaps skipping a few games and like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I can I can miss ten games or nine games,

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Speaker 2: come back still get my year of a crewed uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, and and then be a free agent at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll leave six million on the table doing it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like talk is cheap.

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Speaker 1: And yet but he doesn't beat his body, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: beat his body up.

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Speaker 2: He played, but he goes out and plays the last

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Speaker 2: seven games of the season or whatever it may be,

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Speaker 2: and so he gets paid for those seven games and

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Speaker 2: then he becomes a free agent.

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Speaker 3: I know. I mean, that's not the worst strategy in

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Speaker 3: the world as opposed to sitting out because you sit

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Speaker 3: out like Bell did, your stock drops and like, I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna give you as much.

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Speaker 2: Listen, everybody thought Bell was coming in that year at

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Speaker 2: some point, right right, And had he done that, it

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Speaker 2: would have been it would have been a more prudent

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Speaker 2: like he was gonna make what I'm trying to remember

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Speaker 2: off the top.

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Speaker 3: I think it was like eight hundred thousand dollars a game. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: similar to Barkley money.

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Speaker 2: If he comes back in week nine and makes that

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Speaker 2: over the No, I mean he didn't make as money.

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Speaker 2: He left money on the table, but he still made

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Speaker 2: you know, five point six or whatever is or six,

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Speaker 2: you know, six million dollars that year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's where the mistake was made, because then he

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Speaker 3: at least puts recent tape out there for all the

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Speaker 3: free agent shooters, you know what I mean. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: you come in hopefully in shape, and you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there's a weird dynamic in the locker room. You know,

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Speaker 3: the giants are like, we would have won two weeks

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Speaker 3: ago if you'd have been here, but you're not. And

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Speaker 3: but they're also business partners as well as friends and

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Speaker 3: teammates and understand heysake one, I know this is a

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Speaker 3: business first, I get it, you know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, having been through that situation and talked to

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Speaker 2: players both on and off the record about it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they understood. I'm sure where where Belle was coming from.

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Speaker 2: You know, they they got it. They wanted him to

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Speaker 2: come in where they where he lost. The guys in

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Speaker 2: reached the deadline and then didn't show up because he kept.

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Speaker 3: Telling labor there or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he kept telling guys, look, I'm gonna be there,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna be there, and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's where. That's where you know, guys got

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Speaker 1: angrisive because they liked him. Levy al was a good teammate. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know they saw the beating that he took.

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Speaker 2: They saw like he look, this guy goes out there

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Speaker 2: and takes the ball twenty five times every game.

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Speaker 3: And has immense value to our football team.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, there was nobody.

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Speaker 2: There was nobody in that locker room that didn't like

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Speaker 2: Le'Veon until they felt like he lied to him.

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Speaker 3: But Bell aside, Barkley aside, if the initial question is

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Speaker 3: will running backs get what they deserve? No? The answer

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Speaker 3: is no.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what I would like to see happen. I

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Speaker 1: think there should be. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The whole separate salary cap thing. I don't think works.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how it conceivably.

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Speaker 2: Because you've heard that talk to him about with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: like quarterbacks should not be should not count against a

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Speaker 2: salary cap. I don't know how you do that, because

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Speaker 2: then you could pay your quarterback whatever you.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to pay him.

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Speaker 3: Right then, there's no advantage to having a picket or

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Speaker 1: Here's here's.

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Speaker 2: And this is something I'd like to see across the league,

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Speaker 2: maybe regardless of position. Instead of having rookie sign four

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Speaker 2: and five year deals, make every make your first round

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Speaker 2: picks three three year deals, make your rookie everybody else

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was saying before. If but

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Speaker 3: back came up after for two years, I'd be much

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Speaker 3: more willing to pay him more than if he can more.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying this is this is across across the league

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Speaker 2: every position. Now, ownership probably won't like that as much

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Speaker 2: because they're gonna have to pay guys sooner, you don't

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Speaker 2: get the cheap labor quite as long.

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Speaker 3: But then draft developed goes out the door too.

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Speaker 1: Though drafted develop does go out the door a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And it's also the same argument that you have when

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Speaker 2: guys talk about guaranteed money. They want to see a

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Speaker 2: football context guaranteed. Well, the only way you're going to

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Speaker 2: guarante fully guarantee contracts in the NFL is if you

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Speaker 2: go with shorter terms.

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Speaker 1: That's he's going. I mean, unless you're in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to guarantee a four year contract in the NFL, right,

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Speaker 2: And that's.

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Speaker 3: Just a starting quarterback, let alone of you know, Kareem.

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Speaker 3: They're not doing that for Kareem Hunters.

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Speaker 2: But if you if it was a two year deal,

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Speaker 2: let's say it's a two year, eighteen million dollar deal, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we could guarantee.

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Speaker 1: That, right, because the thing is, I guarantee four four

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Speaker 1: years is an eternity in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's what people don't think about about guaranteed money.

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Speaker 3: When they signed Lamar. He's making the team either way,

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Speaker 3: you know, like he's not in danger of getting cut

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Speaker 3: and not getting his money. Yeah, He's not a borderline

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Speaker 3: roster here. You're not even guaranteed money to your fifth outfielder,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of border that's the problem with

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Speaker 2: that the NFLPA has because you've got fifty three guys

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Speaker 2: in a locker room, ten of them are absolutely guaranteed

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Speaker 2: to make the team no matter.

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Speaker 3: What happens, no matter what happens.

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Speaker 1: Maybe more than that, maybe it's twenty.

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Speaker 3: Sure we can with twenty five Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Every nobody else on the roster is year to year,

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, or injuried injury, or you know, obviously

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Speaker 3: I thought I had a good year. I thought.

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Speaker 1: I mean, put it this way.

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Speaker 1: They're not the same.

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Speaker 3: Ben and Duck were in the same union, right.

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Speaker 2: Not even close to being like one guy is barely

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Speaker 3: Right, and the dudes that have been there for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're I mean, you know when they talk

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Speaker 3: Jaylen Warren is a really good player, but he can't

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Speaker 2: I got I got this many. I got four years

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Speaker 1: Class come in the next year.

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Speaker 3: Like, no, we'll find people just like me and they'll

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could go back to law. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's not like you can walk into a law firm

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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, I can only do it

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Speaker 1: To that job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, and I have to I have to get up.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you're not very re markable to anybody else.

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Speaker 3: You know, like, this is what you do. You've dedicated

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Speaker 3: and now you have to pay. I still don't say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, back to the original conversation, I think running

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Speaker 3: what I mean. I don't do tight things. Tight Ends

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Speaker 3: Kelsey was a wide receiver, he'd be making forty million

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at I mean the running back position.

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Speaker 3: Like, imagine what he would have got paid after year three.

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Speaker 3: He'd made a fortune, absolutely right, and he still like

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Speaker 3: you said, this starts to show he was offered a

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I mean sometimes I think I think it's

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Speaker 2: Have to look at it, Matt Is. People talk about

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Speaker 2: what you can find running backs anywhere. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 3: The big thing the running backs have going against them,

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Speaker 3: But because it's such an island position, they get hurt

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Speaker 2: That's what made Jerome Bettes so good right right where

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Speaker 2: To be able to play that position for a long

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Speaker 3: And analytics are wonderful. Analysis and team building is all

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Speaker 3: And we just used to say this all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a stay.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren and I love Jalen Warren. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we discovered Jalen Warren, Matt.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about Jalen Warren long before anybody else

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Speaker 3: Side notes. I can't wait for a week from now

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Speaker 3: when we see the next Jalen Warren. Right talking about

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Speaker 2: But here's here's the difference between when a third down

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Speaker 3: It's the same yards per carry between those two. Isn't fair.

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Speaker 1: It's not fair. It's the same argument. You know.

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Speaker 2: I can remember when Bill Kuer decided he wanted to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here was over five yards of carry. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So their third down draws and things of that nature,

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Speaker 3: To allow that ten yard run and they're playing dime,

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Speaker 3: That has value, right And Greg coast All talks about

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Speaker 3: And he may have rather had that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if anyone to spend on the field for a

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Speaker 2: And then to come back and do that again the

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Speaker 1: You know, right right, there's value in that.

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Speaker 2: There's value in that, and that's just not something that

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Speaker 3: Not only do they face eight man boxes at a

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Speaker 3: very very high rate, they're like the best team in

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Speaker 3: the league against them, and you mentioned this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's what made me dig into it. They're at the

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Speaker 3: very very top of the league of rushing attempts that

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Speaker 3: go for more than one yard. And what I mean

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Speaker 3: by that is you don't take a negative. They're negative

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Speaker 3: runs are at the best in the league. A negative

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Speaker 3: runs like a sack, you know, like, yeah, they're not

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Speaker 3: breaking off fifty yarders, but they're never in second and

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Speaker 3: twelve when they run on first down.

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Speaker 2: The second and eleven or second and twelve, or even

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Speaker 2: second and ten is so much different than second and

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Speaker 2: eight or second and seven.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, I mean you're on schedule still. I mean,

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Speaker 3: their runs keep them on schedule, and they pay off

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Speaker 3: less likely to put that eighth guy in the box. Right,

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Speaker 3: the five order is going to turn into a twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yard you know, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Next year I'm talking about Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But just an interesting topic there.

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this a lot as this running

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Speaker 2: think there's a place for running backs. I think there's

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Speaker 2: the teams that value them, you know, as much as

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Speaker 2: everybody talks about the forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ers, Well they just take it.

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Speaker 2: They just take backs and just plug them in and

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Speaker 2: what they're the team that made the trade for Christian

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Speaker 2: McCaffrey last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they value running backs. They've paid guys in

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Speaker 3: That's what I was saying, Hey, Jeric McKinnon way more

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Speaker 3: than he was worth. They I mean, not all these

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Speaker 3: traded up for who's the dude with three names that

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Speaker 3: came out LSU that hasn't done anything, you know, like

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Speaker 3: on draft Day they go. They value running backs a lot.

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Speaker 3: Da've has actually not hit on them very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the Drive on

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