WEBVTT - The Ts Madison Experience 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:42.640 Laugh with lame he laughing with la If you watch 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.280 coffee Time too, baby, you know the name Flame, my 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.960 role also known as my role Flame. Come in with 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.640 last and come in with JN love lounds. Baby, you 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.120 better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:58.120 fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah? 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.600 You know she raped shot towns on speaking to the 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.760 grown a second. We're gonna last cut of the kicking 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.440 and at the end we leave it, which is a 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.039 lifty spirit. Think you want to revisit. So your first 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.040 like a list of kill folks like your slip all 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.480 folks that we di No kiss, do what you do, 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.759 no kiss, do what you don't, No kiss, do what 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:43.360 I do? No kiss? Good, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good, good, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.399 good good. Somewhere it's good. I'm looking good at my 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.240 red and my white. I got some pretty blacks on 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.880 the side of me, which will be Lauren Hogan. I 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:58.680 guess who came to dinner, y'all. I'm here here, we 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.400 are here, we are you know, we're still under construction 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.600 with the Laugh and Learned studio, So we're working with y'all. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.559 Like to sign y'all. Shoot, y'all pay for it. Y'all 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.919 like to sign. Y'all think those cashows? What ch'all think you? 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.600 Was bad with those cash y'all know I went bad 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.400 on do Hey. Y'all love to talk about my week, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.880 so I went back on do Hey. How about a 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.160 sign thank you guys for joining us here today and 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.239 laugh and learn. We cannot start off the show that 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.680 I was telling you all that. And not only do 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.960 I look good and smell good, but I feel good. Lauren, Oh, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:30.600 she's sinking? Why is she taking me later? And we're 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.160 so glad to join us today. We're so glad to 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.120 have Nick back because we have not had a chance 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.600 to do the actual he she we. So today is 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.680 the actual he she we because all of us are here, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.200 and of course Kendall was here. Hi, it's good in 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.360 the same space. You know, everybody, thank you so much 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.480 for the words or encouragement people have been. Like Nick, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.799 when you're going back into the studio, I understand a 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.720 mask was made for me to actually wear the until 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.160 I perform well today. But it's good to be back 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.480 because we've been just trying to deal with the challenges 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.480 of the link with COVID restrictions around traveling everything else. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.240 Please no COVID talk today, fun COVID and the VAC scene. Okay, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.600 that's that's the whole COVID conversation today, COVID. We do 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.840 want to remind everyone who may choose to chime in 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.320 later that we do have a special guest today. But 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.160 we want you to make sure that you're typing capital 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.480 letters and be sure to use the flame to let 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.880 us know that you're ready to jump into the conversation. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.119 Because I'm gonna change my glasses and I can see 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.120 words up there. I ain't got to look down. I 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.600 can look up. You know, looking down, you're looking down 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.320 into But when you're looking up at it, baby, feel different, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.920 hit different. You know, we always start off we're talking 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.800 about what we've been up to today, So because you 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.120 know who hasn't been here and how many shows now 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.160 I've been here, I just haven't been in person, right, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.320 isn't it all? That's absolutely? I thought you loved the 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.040 same right next to you know when they are there. Okay, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.600 you know you can always tell what it is chicken advance. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.880 Wait a minute, what happened? How's your week? What you've 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.680 been up to the week has been good. I've just 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.000 been trying to deal with the, like said, the challenges 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.080 around travel. Last week, I got trapped, but it gave 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.360 me an opportunity to kind of touch on our next thing, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.360 what we're talking about, black history. I've been able to 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.560 catch up and watch that whole series around the Black 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.560 Church on PBS, you know. So it's available on demand, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.320 and it's fantastic. Guy like four parts, you know, but 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.120 it's really well done and it's like the history of 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.640 the Black Church and it's fantastic. Okay, what about you, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.640 Mrs Hogan, what have you been up to? Child? Just 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.159 working as usual? Work work, work, work, work, work, work, 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:31.120 work work. After your whole last week's conversation about black history, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.479 and then you brought up Billy Holiday. I watched Billie 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.440 Holiday's new show on Hulu, directed by Lee Dan. You're 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.680 starring Andrew Day and Miss Lawrence. Oh my god, Miss 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.400 Lawrence was so good. But Andrew Day, because I'm telling 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.159 I'm I'm a Diana Ross fanatic, so I knew I 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.159 was gonna watching and be comparing everything she did to Ross. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.920 I couldn't. Andrew Day made her own lane and stole it. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.559 That's not discrediting anything that the Ross Day, but Andre 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.640 Day was fantastic. She was at her first acting gigs. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.680 She was amazing. I believed it, and all of being 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.160 around her was so handsome. Good God, she was just 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.320 giving it up to everybody. I should have been back 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.160 in those days. I've been saying with that, damn should 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.360 would have gave it up. Since we're talking about black history, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.839 let me because we always talk about black historians in 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.800 the in the heterosexual community or that we know, we 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.120 never talked about something the LGBT black historian. So let 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.640 me go down the lane of Fanny lou Haim because 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.159 was lesbian, open less bean, but she was a great 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:39.279 freedom fighter. She was also educated at but Throne Cookman College. Um, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:45.359 moms mayblee for long lesbian, always spoke politically correct, always 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.119 did those kind of it's so many and and here's 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.400 I hate that when they say think that we haven't contributed, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:51.880 and I'm talking when I say, we am talking to 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.840 the LGBT black people have contributed to black history as well. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.480 Uh me, first transgender stand up comedian to be on 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.160 a major platform. But we have a guest today is 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.839 making history. See history is not always twenty years ago. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.240 Sometimes you are in the middle of creating history, like 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:14.479 right now is creating history right now as the first 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.680 black trans woman to have her own reality show, we 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.360 love that. We're talking about MS. T. S. Madison Hinton, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.039 also known as Maddie. She's an American entertainer. For those 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.000 of you who may be joining us for the first time, 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.760 she's an entrepreneur and an LGBT activist. She has also 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.920 recorded an EP and has written an autobiography, Hard Life, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:38.520 Old or New. And On Thursday March fourth, Thursday March fourth, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.680 on the WE TV network, she launches her new reality 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.920 show called The T. S. Madison Experience. It airs at 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.680 ten pm Pacific East Coast time and seven Pacific Standard time, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.160 which is out of time. So I want your guests 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.719 on we TV, and I want you guys to watch, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.160 and let's celebrate Maddie because Maddie will tell you her 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.120 story better than we can, and we're gonna have her 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.080 come on. And but Maddie came from here. You know 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.120 they rap song started from the bottom. Now I'm here. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.679 Maddie started from the bottom. Now she's here. But y'all 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.960 can't take it from me. I can't tell Maddie story 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.160 what she had plank holding to us because the mandibna 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.440 get up in here and get the red in y'all 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.000 be respectful cause the Maddie mob liked to be half bitch. 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:23.120 They will cancel your ass by the Maddie Mom. Don't 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:28.240 play paging the Madison paging the t s. And I'm 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.040 so glad she came to the show because we I 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:31.680 did her show about a year or so ago, and 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.520 we had talked before then, because she came to see 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.960 me when I worked at the club here some years ago, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.840 and things just exploded. And I'm proud of Maddie. But 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.080 you two have a history YouTube go way back. Well no, no, no, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.240 because I met Maddie when she first did a video 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.480 freestyling on another entertainer, and Maddie exploded from that. It 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.120 was a baby. She was in her house, she couldn't 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.920 find what's room. She wanted to city, and then when 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.120 she found found room, she got the reading and we 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:57.520 just fell in love with her from that. In the 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.360 worst of the great same town, A light of up 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:05.840 host one three. You know, I have not had an 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.000 opportunity to meet you, but I have been a fan 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.080 for a while now, because I was introduced to you 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.080 through Flame. Um, and one of the things I noticed 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.080 when you all were talking and just talking about doing 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.240 your own thing and finally making away is the similarity 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.520 of how you are also making sure you include your 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.080 family and friends. Why was it important, Maddie to make 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.080 sure that you brought the entire team along on this journey. Uh, well, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.520 it's important that I brought my team on my journey 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.359 because my team is it's black and brown and LBGT, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.760 you know, and there's there's uh a lack of LBGT 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:45.120 representation in media. Um, even though people think it's a lot. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.520 And we worked, we work heavy behind the scenes like 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.520 LBGT people. But I need to bring these people in 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.199 the forefront that's really making making it happen and make 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.600 history happen. You know. Listen, Flame pigh near the door 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.480 for me to come through, to walk through this type 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.160 of stuff, because I remember watching I remember being a 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.240 young girl, a young young, young, young, very young girl. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.640 I'm messing with Flame now, I don't tear around the flame. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.559 I was a very young, young, young young girl. You 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.000 weren't that young helper knocked at all? He was only 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.760 about five years younger than me. Be you don't call 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:30.480 this show tell a little true security, miss Manist. I 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.400 remember being a very young young girl, honey and watching 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.880 this this this woman come on stage and and I 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.120 was a big fan of comic View and the very 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.439 first time I saw Flame, I was like, waite a man, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.240 there this bitch out the train white and then she said, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.680 you know, I'm I'm What did you say at the time, Flame, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.199 because I don't want to. I don't want to, you know, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:53.920 I'll be I'm gonna be. I don't know it go 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.240 from day to day, Hunt, Well, that's where it was. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.520 Well when when you you let the girls know, honey, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.439 that you that you had you had jump in the 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.120 trunk and jump in the front. So I was like, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.800 all right and all that you know that that was 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:12.240 That was very maddie. You know what. But do you 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.160 remember when you first came to Long Beach and you 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.000 came to the club to see me, and then you 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.160 came to the house, you and uh, who is that 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:20.959 I don't know which manager used with at the time. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.920 They came to pick you up and we ate and everything, 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.199 and you're not talking about your past and what I 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.560 always told you, girl, that that ship don't mean nothing. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.959 Keep going forward. Those people who were at haters that 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.520 was at you and hating on you. What I tell you, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:38.640 they're gonna disappear. Guess what they did, Maddie, they disappear. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.640 Well listen, I can't see him anyway because I'm in 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.280 my season right now, and I in my season right now, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.719 I ain't paying no hay, there's no attention. It's like 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.200 nothing that they nothing that they could say if they 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.840 try to freestyle on me. And I love the way 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.800 that you you integrated freestyle for those people. They don't understand. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.199 You know, we called the freestyle Allan Jones and reading, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.000 you know, stuff like that, Like like, no matter how 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.920 much they're trying to do what they do, I'm gonna say, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:17.920 it's like I see that I'm here, Are you not? So? No, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.800 no no. And when I when I said that, I 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.880 wasn't telling you to give light to the haters. I 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.400 was saying that because you kept going forward and you 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.640 pay that they have all fallen off, by the way, 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:32.000 saying Maddie, meanwhile, you're about to be You're about to 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.480 be the first black trans woman to have their own 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.959 reality show on WE TV. On a major network, and 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.880 that's executive produced by yourself. I know what that means, 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.160 and I know what that does. That's great, Maddie, that's 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.360 fucking great. Thursday night, I'm gonna be in Chicago and 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.040 I'm gonna be sitting in front of the TV with 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:55.559 my popcorn perch, bitch, waiting to see you. But I 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.760 want to see my favorite character on the show because 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.040 it ain't you. Well, I know it's your it's a 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.320 girlfriend who cook that whole pig. Miss Mary is my baby, hoody. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.240 Let me tell y'all something about Miss Mary, me and 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.520 Miss Mary Heather. I told Maddie when I was at 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.400 her house, if Ms Mary was masculine, a little studly, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.320 I'd be your stepdaddy there, I'll be your stepdad. Help. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:23.240 May you know I am? I know I know, Maddie 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.000 that in the in the gay community and in the 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.199 trans community, a lot of girls will give you fictitious 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.679 praise or we'll say I'm happy for her. But but 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.200 but I haven't done nothing since this announcement has come 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.200 out and give you praise because I'm proud of you, man. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.679 It's one of us getting breaking through, it's one of 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.280 us getting in and what you have to understand is 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.200 when one comes, it's like roaches. You know it's gonna 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.840 be some more. So hats off to yourself to blow 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.640 so we can come through. Uh, you left the door 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.599 open for me and without even knowing you did that. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.319 You know, back on comic with you because you know 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.240 we have a similar style of You know, I can't 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.040 do what you do and we can't do with each 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.679 other do but we got our own. Ain't the way 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.240 we do what we do? You know I learned that 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.360 from you. But you left the door open for me 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.480 to come through. Um and be loud, laughing in color 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.679 like you know, because flame you know that mouth you 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.920 got his leatho and all I don't I Madie, I'm 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.760 so sweet and Leo. Okay, so let me tell you 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.679 I have Maddie guest favors and she told about my 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.040 mouth is Leathough. One of the queens in Atlanta was 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.640 reading Maddie about her prior work. So Maddie made a video. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.760 This was when like Facebook was first popping, and she 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.640 I remember you're going from room to room because you 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.440 couldn't decide where you wanted to sit in the marvelous chateau, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.520 and then you finally got to the dining room table 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.439 and you just went in and girl, you exploded. And 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.160 I asked, like, who who can noticed that hanging on 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:50.480 the wall there pictures still there, you know, and you 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.480 just exploding. You know what was so amazing to me 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.079 that when you caught on so quickly, so many haters 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.160 of girls who wanted to do what you were doing, 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.079 jump thrown to try to eat at your bandwagon, and 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.200 they all just fell away, by the way said, they 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.080 all just stought disappearing because your mama, Miss Mary, who 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.760 was a prying sister, oh there and a cooking ask 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.959 let me say that always prayed over you to keep 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.319 all the b and for you to get where you 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.480 are now. You lost some people along the way you did. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.280 You lost some people that some people that something. And 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.720 I'm gonna say it because one person that you work with, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.800 whose name we won't mention, I thought you all with 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.760 the fucking most remarkable team ever. But things don't pan 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.920 out that way sometimes and you survive that man, and 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.680 you still standing, girl, you still here. That's great. Listen, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.640 I'm still standing because you know I'm gonna press Revere 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.200 through it all. And even though a person watching my 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.040 journey may not like me, or or they may not 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.160 sign me funny, or you know, I might not be entertaining, 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.600 but they must definitely say that that bitch is resilient. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.160 What is your What is your intention with the new show? 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.400 Is it too expand your audience, introduce yourself to more people, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.240 or to elevate your brand? What is it that you 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.440 hope to accomplish. I do hope to expand my audience 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:13.040 and um, you know, uh, elevate my brand. But I 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.320 also want people to learn. I want people to learn. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.480 I want to be hope for the hopeless because there 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.440 are a lot of people out there that that are 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.000 chasing their dreams and things fall apart, that are chasing 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.240 their dreams, and the and the and the sheet is 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.720 pulled from up under them, that are chasing their dreams 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.040 and it's just not working out. And I want people 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.960 to look at me and be like, well, you know, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.680 even though I may not be trans the person watching, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.760 even though I may not be trance or or I 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.200 may not be black, or you know, I may not 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.760 be who she is, there's a piece of me in 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.600 this person. Um. I want I want people to see 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:56.640 that that trans children and and their mothers who love 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.400 the Lord can have a great relationship with each other. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.600 I want to I want to be a part of 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.320 healing some of the black family. I want to be 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.360 a part of tear down a lot of stigma that 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.240 it is about transack about black trans women. I want 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.280 to be a part of that. You know, and my 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.360 mother used to always tell me because there were times 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.400 and Flame, you know, you and I have talked very 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.640 incessively about these things. You know. There there there have 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.360 been times where I used to be like, well, Dawn, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.280 you know, everybody just getting nation stuff before me or 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.520 or this is going on before me, you know. But 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.240 I still got to be resilient. If the if one 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.920 door closed, I'd open a window. If the window was closed, honey, 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.320 you know, I dig a hole in the ground and 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.320 crawl up under. I've been down there in that basement 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:46.560 working on on myself before people even knew who I was. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.920 Just like Flames said, I I made a video that 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.720 we're viral about me reading somebody who had something to 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.000 say about my prior work. I've never ever been um 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.720 ashamed of my of my beginnings because every piece of 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.000 my beginnings is a part of my testimony, like that's 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.240 where I was. People can't hold me prisoner to that 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.359 because I'm very vocal about it. I'm very open about it. 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.600 And and they also can see that I have transitioned 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.520 from that into this. And I want people to learn 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:23.080 that transitioning it's not always about this. People transition in 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.480 the mind. They transition, and and and and their finances. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.959 They transition, and they're living and they living space. They 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:34.600 transition in their emotions. They transitions. They transition and in 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.760 the way and they when that they look. But we 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.359 all transition on this earth, all of us. We're all 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.359 we're all transitioning each and every day, each and every 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.280 every time that we want to try something new, each 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.919 and every time that we're going after ours were transitioning 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.800 into something else. Flame. Listen, I watched you on Comic 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.200 View Boom things When when when, however they went in 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.359 your life and then doom they change, Boom hair Gold 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.320 Tippany has has come and brought you air stay ready, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.680 relaunched your whole career. It's it's just something else, you 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.520 know what I'm saying, Like you transition from one state 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:15.679 of being to another. You're transition from one mindset to another, 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.119 and it comes with age. It does. It does come 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:20.840 with age. And I tell people that even when we're 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.439 talking about when you say, like you want to help 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.440 with the trans community. When you're young, you think one way. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.800 Five years up the line, you think another way another 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.200 five and see years you think another way. You constantly 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.200 are growing when you're transitioning. Everybody who transitions doesn't grow. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.240 Let me say that again, everybody who transitions does not grow. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.320 And I'm not talking about changing your sex. I'm talking 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.199 about you as a person. The drive and the DNA 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.720 of what you want has to be in you. Everybody 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.640 can want it for you, but if you don't want 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.080 it for yourself, you're not gonna get Maddie, I watched you. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.879 I remember you calling me thinking that your past was 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.080 gonna hold you back. And what I tell you, girl, 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.960 you did that already. You already accomplished that. Now look 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.600 and that look. Only fans is as popular as that, 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.000 and and and and I was, I was. I pioneered 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.680 that stuff in and even in me doing that in 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.320 my in my former career, I pioneered the place for 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.679 black girls to own, to own own that to make 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.400 money off of that, because what people don't really understand 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.160 is that the business that I was in way before 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.280 all of this is a white male dominated business where 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.760 black people work for the man. And I came in 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.960 and told the man, nigga, this is what I told 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.040 the man, nigga, you got me fucked up. I'm gonna 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.560 keep all my money, all nine and I'm gonna I'm 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.399 gonna make residuals off of this until the day I 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.280 leave the planet. So I made girls want to go 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:54.000 and take ownership of whatever of their lives. And it's 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:58.000 just if I didn't learn that in that space, I 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.560 wouldn't be here in this space right now taking ownership 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.239 of my life. Like like the television show that it's 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.280 being produced is executive produced by me. I don't have 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.840 all the power, but I have power in the narrative 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.200 of what's going on with my story instead of me 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.359 putting it in the hands of somebody and they, and 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.159 they telling the whole a whole, drop down, drag out 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.960 trans story. Please please explain to people why that is 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.879 so important that you have that executive producers position and 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.359 that you will control the narrative of the way you 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.960 want to be presented to the world. Please explain that 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.560 to the girls who want to have TV shows. It's 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:36.320 extremely important that you hold that position, because they could 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.760 they the cameras could come in here and they could 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.040 just say, Okay, well Madison, this is this is the 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.000 way we're gonna tell the story of your life. And 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:48.240 they can have me some messy trans girl that's you know, 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:53.679 still hooking and and and and exploiting that. No, we're 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.159 gonna turn this into a whole beautiful thing. This is 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.720 where I was, This is not where I am, because 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:04.119 people can get so stuck into your past and stuck 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.240 into trying to tell that story of your past, that 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.800 this is all people will know about you. This is 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.800 why it's important for us to control the narrative. This 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.080 is why it's important for us to to own our 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.840 masters or whatever it is, whatever it is, whether it's music, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.280 whether it's it's it's adult film, whether whether it's writing, 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.480 whether it's it's you know and all my journey frame. 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.320 I make mistakes on my journey. I make mistakes. I 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.639 was I was trying to get in the door um 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.640 a record company that I was signed to. Uh, I'm 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:44.520 not gonna say they took advantage of me because you know, 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.760 I didn't know, like I was coming from this space 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.920 to another one. Um, And I didn't know anything about 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:51.960 how to work with contracts and things like that or 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.800 whatever with with music or whatever. So some of some 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.439