1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty and now 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: For anyone that is taking the bait tonight, stop. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: That is not helpful, go home. 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: We cannot counter Donald Trump's chaos with our own brand 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: of chaos. And I have seen thousands of people throughout 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: our city peacefully protesting. For those that have peacefully protested, 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: I applaud you. For those that are taking the bait. 11 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: You are not helping and you are not helping the 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: undocumented immigrants in our city. 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: When you get up in the morning putting on your shoes, 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: I think you're going to hit the streets to expressive views. 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 4: Listen to the maya, don't join a debate, mind your 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 4: own business, don't. 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Take the bait. Don't take the bait. Don't that's pretty good. 18 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: We're looking for something James brownish. Yet that's pretty good. 19 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 5: They rhyme debate with the bait, which offends me as 20 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: a songwriter. But oh yeah, that's pretty good and funky. 21 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: Don't take the bait. 22 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I was quoting kat Rosenfield's absolutely 23 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 5: brilliant piece about how the LARPing lesbian couple that the 24 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 5: one gal ended up getting killed, how they had this 25 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: weird disney This isn't real, it's fun reality. 26 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 27 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: Well, the law enforcement officers were afraid of getting box 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: didn't hit by cars or god knows what else. 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: And and she. 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: Mentions that when the first female agent comes to the car, 31 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 5: the gallo ended up dying and said, Hey, I've got 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 5: my child in the car, my six year old in 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 5: the car, and the agent quote looks like she's been electrocuted. Quote, 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 5: you have a child in your car, Her voice pitching 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 5: sharply upward, her eyes wide with horror. 36 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Get your child. 37 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: Off the scene. This is an active police scene. 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 5: It could not be clear in this moment that these 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 5: two women inhabit two different realities. One end understands herself 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: to me in a dangerous, high stake situation. The other 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 5: things it's all some sort of a game. 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Right, that does the. 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Still living wife, Uh, who said, drive baby, drive man 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: that video of her? Come on, big boy, you mean 45 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: that just got such a huge Do not understand what 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the stakes are in this little drama? 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: You're playing out right right? 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 6: Uh? 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: You ready for a little. On the other hand, Oh boy, 50 00:02:59,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: here comes Joe. 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: He's On the other hand, the cat writes, it's not 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: hard to understand why, though nobody, least of all ICE 53 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 5: in the administration answers to, is given the average US 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 5: citizen much reason to take them or their operations seriously, 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 5: the attitude of ICE officials toward the public is by 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: turns aggressive and evasive. We still don't have the slightest 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 5: idea what the agents were doing in that Minneapolis neighborhood. 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 5: Who they were attempting to detain when one of them 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 5: ordered renee Good out of the car, or less than 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: two seconds later to get out of the effing car. 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 5: And while their operations may be lawful, their optics or 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: something else entirely amateurish, undisciplined, like a performance of law 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: and order rather than the thing itself. 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: I've heard that from a lot of people. 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it to have any judgment 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: on it, but I've heard that from a lot of quarters, 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: and not just progressive quarters. 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,279 Speaker 5: One more note, if you are not about winning arguments online, 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: you want America to be a better place. 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: I found this intriguing. 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 5: Critics of ICE are not incorrect when they noticed that 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: when they note that the officers who are subject to 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: looser recruitment standards than those of other law enforcement agencies 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: have an unfortunate tendency to look and act like high 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: school bullies. Cause playing as authority figures men who could 76 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 5: meet neither the. 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Physical nor intellectual requirements to become real soldiers or real cops, 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: living out their fantasies of wearing a mask, waving a gun, 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: and yelling at people to do what they say. We've 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: all had the experience with people who would kind of 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: like to be real cops or something, but are given 82 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: you the minor security haft of the job that they've 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: gotten manned. 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: Do they like it? We've all experienced that. 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 5: And the result is a pervasive sense that ice are 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 5: more like cartoon villains than legitimate law enforcement, That the 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 5: bulletproof vests are just costumes, the guns merely props, and 88 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: if they tell you to do something, they carry about 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 5: as much authority as a chippendale's dancer dressed in a 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: policeman's blues. 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: Sure, you can. 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 5: Play along if you want to, but if you don't, 93 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 5: you can just go home. 94 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think all those things are true. 95 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 5: There is a reason that good police departments and good 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: cops individual work very very hard to be respectable, respect full, 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: and above reproach, because if you grant your government authority 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 5: like cops and ice officers have, for instance, that is 99 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: an awesome and dangerous power in a free society. So 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: they had better be the best and most honorable. That's 101 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 5: the aspiration, anyway. And if we are playing fast and 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 5: loose with that to have enough ice officers and recruiting people, 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 5: and again, kat Rosenfield is no progressive, She's a very smart, 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: very reasonable conservative writer. If we are really recruiting bunches 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: of people who couldn't make it as regular cops or 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 5: into our military and giving them military style powers or 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: policing powers. 108 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: How good an idea is that? What should we do 109 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: about it? 110 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Asking that question don't make me a blank and progressive, friends, 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: that makes me a conservative. Yeah, And you don't want 112 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: to hand your opponents a great rhetorical tool or a 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: good story. 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: To run against you on. 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was talking thinking more good governances post 116 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 5: to politics. 117 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: But that's true because you care about people. 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: Better than you anyway that goes anyway, I was I 119 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 5: gonna say, oh, there's something I wanted to add on 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: to that, but that was not nearly so serious, and 121 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: now it's flitted out of my mind. You got a 122 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: bunch of chimps on the savannah wielding spears at each other, 123 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 5: wild fung goalie chimps in the dry, scraggly sahel. They 124 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: exist on the extreme edge of what is possible for 125 00:06:53,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: those species, but scientists are studying them because their ways 126 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 5: are different than other chimps. They cool off in caves, 127 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: they wield spears. The thirty five whild chimps. The fungoli 128 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: community have addicted the environment with behaviors that defy their 129 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 5: species conventional norms. 130 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Well, you can't spell fungoli without fun, there's no doubt 131 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: about that. What's fun? What's more fun than then? But yeah, 132 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: what's more fun than chimp? You were going to ah, 133 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: you were gonna ask me something about a rank. 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: Oh, that's right, speaking of brutality in the streets, it 135 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: would appear for now, And feel free to contradict me 136 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 5: on that if you like that. 137 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: Trump is back down. 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: He's gotten assurances from the mulas that they're not going 139 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 5: to hang anybody in the public square, so he's called 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: off the dogs. If that is true. I find that 141 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: extremely unsatisfying. Do you think that's true? 142 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: My hope and assumption. 143 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: That if it's true, it's because there were more concessions 144 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: given by. 145 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: The Mollahs than is being reported. 146 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: Because evidently things have calmed down according to most observers, 147 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: but they've terrorized the people back into their homes. 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that that there's some sort of uh, you know, 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: wheel stop pursuing nuclear weapons. I don't know what it 150 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: would be, but they offered something. I mean, because if 151 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: they if they if Trump made the threat of if 152 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: you start killing protesters, I'm coming after you, and then 153 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: they killed twenty thousand protesters, killed, beaten, tortured twenty thousand, 154 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: killed twenty thousand, and then probably tortured, beaten many many thousands, 155 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: tens of thousands more if they did, if it was 156 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: a thousand, if they squashed the rebellion successfully by doing 157 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: all that, and Trump says, well it's over now, I 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: suppose there's. 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: No point because they told me they won't hang anybody. 160 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: That's not a good look. 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: No. 162 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: I hate that. 163 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: If that is the reality, it's you know, there are 164 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: a bunch of possibilities and we don't know you know, 165 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 5: he may have said, look, I got Sulamani, I got 166 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: your nuclear program. 167 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: My finger is on the hair trigger. Okay, I'm watching 168 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: you people. Well, I would say that the New York Times, 169 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: reporting their own reporting today is Trump also indicated that 170 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: things were more or less over and calm down back 171 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: in June, right before we blasted the crap out of 172 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: their nuclear weapons program, right and fake. 173 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: It was a headfake, and this might be this now, 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: I hope. 175 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 7: So. 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: Mark Fieson of the Washington Post, who I usually likes, 177 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: thinks we need to go after their leadership. They're the 178 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: number one enemy of the world on the planet. They've 179 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: killed more Americans than any other country in the last 180 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: half century. They're the weakest they're ever going to be. 181 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Now's the time, and they're a never ending font of instability. 182 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: Right. 183 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: I happen to agree with them, although what comes next 184 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: is always the giant explosive question. 185 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're keeping our eye on this basketball betting scandal. 186 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: This time it's Division one college basketball where they've rested 187 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people in a point shaving scandal. 188 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Players are getting paid thirty grand apiece to you know, 189 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: missshots or whatever because we got so much betting going 190 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: on around sports, kind of what a lot of people predicted. 191 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: What happened is that. Yeah, I don't know how you're 192 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: gonna stop it. We had a lot to talk about. 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: Stay here. 194 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 7: Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world 195 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 7: can write anything they want about any subject. So you 196 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 7: know you are getting the best possible information. 197 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: That's from the office Wikipedia debuted twenty five years ago today. 198 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Is that what you said, Michael So in the year 199 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and one. 200 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: I have used Wikipedia. 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: Up until AI chatbots many many, many, many times, practically daily, 202 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: Google and Wikipedia. Now I never use them at all 203 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: because I use Rock or Claude or something else. 204 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: How long ago was it the but Wikipedia swung wildly progressive? 205 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: Is that like eight years ago, ten years ago. 206 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm still amazed by groc and Claude and Gemini and 207 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: chat GPT, all of which I use, And that some 208 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: of the things they get wrong. For instance, Claude as 209 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: asking about the hottest movie in America, The most talked 210 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: about movie in America is right now is one Battle 211 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: after another won a whole bunch of Golden globes. One 212 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: of the biggest directors in world history this big movie. 213 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Ask Claude about it, and they just, I don't know 214 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I got nothing here, and I. 215 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: Said, I'm not a big movie fan. 216 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: I even gave the director and it said, well, here 217 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: are the movies that Paul Thomas Anderson has directed, and 218 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: listened to all of them, but that he has not 219 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: directed a movie called. I'm like, how could this happen? 220 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just stunning, Yeah, that that can happen 221 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: and disturbing, And how often does that happen with things 222 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: I don't know about? When I'm asking you to questions 223 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and it tells me stuff which kind of leads me 224 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to this, And this was I asked a chatbot for 225 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: this answer, which is kind of like cannibalism, I guess. 226 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: But it was quoting Forbes and a bunch of other 227 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: tech magazines and therapists and stuff like that about what 228 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: automation and using tech stuff and when the AI revolution 229 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: happens and it's doing all the jobs, what's that going to. 230 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: Do to people? 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: This is what the current thinking is by some people. 232 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Automation profoundly impacts the human mind and spirit by shifting 233 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: focus from mundane tasks to creative ones potentially potentially, just 234 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: because something's potential doesn't mean it's gonna happen look at me, 235 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: potentially boosting purpose and reducing stress, but also risking dehumanization, 236 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: skill erosion, loss of control, and existential questions about human 237 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: value as algorithms take over judgment and meaning. That's a 238 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: hell of a but also that's one of the all 239 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: time but alsos. Well, if AI can do all therury 240 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: of life and all the jobs, you don't have to 241 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: do them, it also might cause you to wonder why 242 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: you're even alive. 243 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 5: Right, Luckily, ed, we have a medicine for your condition. 244 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: Oh great, doc, Will it cure me? It certainly might. 245 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: It does kill half the people who take it so open. 246 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Wide, while free freeing humans from higher four high not 247 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: from while freeing humans four higher level thinking. It can creatically, yeah, 248 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: it can create a sense of being a mere data point, 249 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: challenging identity and dignity obviously, and shifting cultural values. Notes 250 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: this Forbes article and then this other article that references 251 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: and that. 252 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: Sort of stuff. 253 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: You know, I'm sorry, I gotta jump in just briefly, 254 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: and I'm not trying to be smug, because you get 255 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: the brain, you get and you live with it. And 256 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 5: there are a lot of people in the world that 257 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 5: are a hell of a lot smarter than me. But 258 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: I've known a heck of a lot of people I 259 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 5: don't think are like capable or interested in quote unquote 260 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: higher thinking. If you take away their job and their 261 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: purpose and what they do, they're not gonna sit around 262 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 5: contemplating the works of Aristotle. 263 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna get drunk later around. I would say that's 264 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: most people, wouldn't you. Is that fair to say that 265 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: most people aren't interested in writing the great novel or 266 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: learning to play the cello. 267 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: Well right, nobody to rate it anyway, or working for. 268 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: A charity because they've got so much free time and 269 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: might just stare at the television and drink well. 270 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 5: And as Abraham Lincoln said, God mostly love the common 271 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 5: people best because he made the most of us. So yeah, 272 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: it's no insult. But that's wait a minute, Wait a minute, 273 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 5: wait a minute. You're saying humanity is gonna be freed 274 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: up to contemplate the higher meanings of life, and by 275 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 5: the way, you're gonna lose your humanity and have. 276 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: No skills in the rest of it. 277 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I guess One of the things I find 278 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: interesting is, whether it's this chatbot or individuals I've heard 279 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: on podcasts talking about this, that they position it as 280 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: it could challenge some people's identity and feeling of dignity 281 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: if they don't have a job. 282 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: Well, how are you? 283 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: How are you and I both human beings? And it's 284 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: not just abundantly clear to you that that's what will 285 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: happen as opposed to it could happen. Yeah, how do 286 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: how do we scream forward with AI eliminating all the jobs? 287 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Well though without wrestling to the ground the idea, and 288 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: then people are going. 289 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: To do what? Right? I know, Well, because there's no 290 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: stopping it. Apparently. What about China is what I always 291 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: come back to. They don't care. 292 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, that's fine, But I don't see any downside to 293 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: getting on getting a head start on What are people 294 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: going to do for any sort of feeling of meaning 295 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: in their lives when they no longer work? 296 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 8: Right? 297 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. 298 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: How is that like an afterthought or something only pains 299 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: in the ass bring up? 300 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: You know, I've I've got another one for you, Unless 301 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 5: you have more contemplating on that. It was I was 302 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 5: working with happened to be chat GPT on a project yesterday. 303 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: I actually upgraded to the paid version finally, and it 304 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: was compiling lists of various information on various topics that 305 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 5: had to do with liberty and political freedom and economic 306 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: freedom and that sort of stuff. I'm working on something 307 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to bore you with the details. But 308 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 5: it kept stopping and saying chat gpt is not oriented 309 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: to give you that sort of content. 310 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: And I asked it, hey, I keep getting this message. 311 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Why. 312 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: It said, well, it must be because there's so many 313 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 5: references to war and revolution and death and that sort 314 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: of thing. And I'm like, you know what I'm doing 315 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: and why I'm doing it. Can't you tell yourself what 316 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: I'm doing? 317 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: And they finally had to give me like a half 318 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: assed version, so chat gpt itself wouldn't keep interrupting and saying, 319 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I can't give you that because it's a reference to revolution. 320 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the alignment problem. They're trying to figure 321 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: that out. 322 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: And so somebody's got that coded to not allow people 323 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: to talk about revolution, to try to keep you know, 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: terrorists something or other, and it's too strict currently obviously, 325 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: figure it out. 326 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geeddy. 327 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 9: We need someone with judgment and the temperament to keep 328 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 9: this country safe. I don't know anyone who would be 329 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 9: comfortable with someone who behaves this way having his finger 330 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 9: on the button. I mean, we're liable to wake up 331 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 9: one morning and Donald if he were president, would have 332 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 9: nuked Denmark. 333 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: Is Ted Cruise back in twenty sixteen when he was 334 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: running against Trump for the nomination. 335 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Kind of funny when you think back on it. Uh, 336 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: now that why Denmark? 337 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Now that Denmark has sent troops to Greenland to defend 338 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: their territory. Here's how CBS presented it. It was the 339 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: lead story on CBS and ABC. Those are the two 340 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: big network evening newscasts. I watched last night both of 341 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: Greenland as lead story. Here's how it sounded on CBS 342 00:17:59,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: for their teas. 343 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. 344 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 10: I'm Tony Nicopo in Chicago. The breaking news right now, 345 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 10: the battle for Greenland. President Trump says anything short of 346 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 10: full US control of the world's largest island is quote unacceptable. 347 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 8: If we don't go in, Russia is going to go, 348 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 8: and in China is going to go in What's its. 349 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: Safe for US security? Tonight? 350 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 10: Wisha Jang standing by at the White House. 351 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: That's some pretty hot sounding teasing there of a story 352 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: like this is real. 353 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: But I don't know, I don't know what. I don't 354 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: know what to what extent to treat this like real. 355 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: The military part, we definitely want Greenland, and most of 356 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: my favorite pundits seem to think we will end up 357 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: controlling Greenland in. 358 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: Some way. 359 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: Through buying it and various soft power things. This is 360 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: what Trump said yesterday. 361 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 8: We need Greenland for national securities. If we don't go in, 362 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 8: Russia is going to go in, and China is going 363 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 8: to go in. 364 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: Trump was asked about that by our reporter. This was 365 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: on Fox yesterday eighty two. Michael Nato, right. 366 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 11: Now, it sounds like you were saying that you would 367 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 11: potentially acquire Greenland by force. That would be a NATO country, 368 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 11: the United Are you saying you. 369 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 8: Know, you're saying that. No, you're telling me that that's 370 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 8: what I'm going to do. You don't know what I'm 371 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 8: going to do. I can't rely on Denmark being able 372 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 8: to fend themselves off. You know, they were talking about 373 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 8: they put an extra dog, and they were serious about this. 374 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 8: They put an extra dog sled there last month, they 375 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 8: edited a second dog sled that's not going to do 376 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 8: the track. 377 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 5: That's some pretty funny trolling. Ridiculous. So Russian and China 378 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: are going to come in what it's a NATO country. 379 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: Now we're bound by treaty to defend them. 380 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: So here's some more reporting on the Danes taking this seriously, 381 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: apparently from CNN. 382 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 12: The Danish for a minute, STI. What he's been able 383 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 12: to do is by a little time for or the 384 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 12: people of Greenland where they don't have to expect the 385 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 12: hard option from President Trump that troops might be coming 386 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 12: or somehow the country gets annexed. 387 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: These couple of weeks also. 388 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 12: By Denmark, more time you have Swedish troops coming, Norwegian 389 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 12: troops coming, German troops coming, Danish troops coming. It allows 390 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 12: more time for the NATO allies and partners, particularly in 391 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 12: the North of Europe, to show President Trump that NATO 392 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 12: can give the level of security that he wants to 393 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 12: see in and around Greenland. 394 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, that's a different couching of it than 395 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: I heard on other networks. So when I heard that 396 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: the French had sent troops, and then this report says 397 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: the Germans have sent troops. It's not to fight US. 398 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: If we land marines right in Greenland, it's to show 399 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Trump that, no, we are perfectly willing to send NATO 400 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: true groups to defend Greenland against China and Russia. We're 401 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: treating it as an actual NATO territory. Don't worry about it. 402 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that's that's completely different as looney tunes as 403 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: I find, and unproductive as I find threatening our friends. 404 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: If this was a maybe maybe he'd break up NATO. 405 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 406 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: Style Trump really going balls to the walls with a 407 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: bluff in the way that maybe it's not a bluff 408 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 5: in a way that most presidents wouldn't and then NATO 409 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 5: virtually all waking up and saying, all right, well spend more, 410 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: we'll spend more. 411 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: I tip my cap to him. 412 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: I don't particularly like the methodology, but yeah, if NATO's 413 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 5: waking up and saying, yeah, Greenland's an incredibly important asset 414 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 5: and we're all prepared to defend it with our lives. 415 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 2: Okay. 416 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: Did the people who misled me mislead me on purpose? 417 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: Or were they confused? So when you say, maybe I 418 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: just misunderstood them when they when they say France, Emmanuel 419 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Macrone announced France will be sending troops to defend Greenland. 420 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: I assumed, given the tenor of the story so far, 421 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: that they meant defend Greenland from the United States, but 422 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: they meant defend Greenland from any aggression. 423 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know. I didn't hear that report. 424 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Well, how would you take in it all these stories 425 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: of Danish troops going, Well, I don't I didn't hear 426 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: the story, so I don't know how it was presented. 427 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: I see what we're talking about yesterday, though. 428 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, when you were hearing about the Danes were 429 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: sending troops, did you assume it was to defend Greenland against. 430 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: Russia or to demonstrate that it could be defended by 431 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 5: NATO blah blah blah. 432 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: No, I did not assume that. 433 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like to headline in the Wall 434 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: Street Journal, Welcome to Greenland, an economy reliant on subsidies 435 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 5: and shrimp. 436 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: I do enjoy shrimp seriously. 437 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: With the cost of a military operation, that's got to 438 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: be I'll bet it's like you can spend a billion 439 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: dollars like that with a big military operation. 440 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, just buy these people off. There's like thirty five 441 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: thousand of them, right am, all giant jacks. Buy him 442 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: a you know, a land cruiser and a nice house. 443 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: Well again, I find the idea of attacking one of 444 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: our allies so freaking abhorrent. It's like you're saying, hey, 445 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: instead of raping somebody, we could do this. No, no, no, no, 446 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: you don't even get to say instead of this, this 447 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. This is a horror, and I keep forgetting 448 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: what you said the other day. We wouldn't be buying 449 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: off the Greenland people of Greenland. We got to buy 450 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: off the Danes because belongs to Denmark. Yeah, it's it's 451 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: mostly a money suck for them, honestly, but it's part. 452 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 5: It's been part of the graded Greater Danish Kingdom for 453 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 5: a very long time. And you just don't you don't 454 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 5: carve yourself up because your bigger neighbor says you ought 455 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 5: to ask the Ukrainians. 456 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: So I don't you know. Yeah, well, let's work something out. 457 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: We were listening to the news yesterday and my fourteen 458 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: year old, and he's only been fourteen for two weeks, 459 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: my fourteen year old said, if we take Greenland by force, 460 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: how are we supposed to tell China they can't take Taiwan. 461 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: I said, you could have a talk show. Well, yeah 462 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: you could. 463 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 5: Although that's it's a very childlike question Jack, which has 464 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 5: asked all the time. That's Jesi and Ping doesn't look 465 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 5: to us for permission for anything, but retort with Vladimir computing. 466 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: It's like the whole If you take a Maduro like that, 467 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: doesn't that give a Chesian Ping permission to That's not 468 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 5: the way the world works. 469 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: But rhetorically it hurts your argument. Oh you certainly the 470 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: where stronger countries can take smaller countries next to them. 471 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: Sure we do. We always have. 472 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why small countries banned together and vow to 473 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 5: defend each other, because together they make a big country. 474 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, exactly. No, he's right, he's right on a 475 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: rhetorical level. On the Island is one of the world's 476 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: biggest welfare states. A vast expanse of ice clad villages 477 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 5: whose residents reachable only by helicopter and prop jet, are 478 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: none less accustomed to the perks of Denmark's social democracy, 479 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 5: from free healthcare to robust schools. 480 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about their government is Byork. Their 481 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: queen she. 482 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 5: Is indeed, No, that's Iceland, oh Iceland, Iceland as green 483 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: and Greenland as icy. 484 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: That's how you remember it. 485 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 5: Their population is indeed fifty seven thousand, thinly spread down 486 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: the coast of some of the world's most environmentally hostile 487 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 5: territory of country, eighty percent covered with ice, living standards 488 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 5: very enormously. In the capital, which, of course you can. 489 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: Name Greenland, I'm gonna go with Greenland City. 490 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 5: That's a good guess. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 491 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Tucker Carlson here. You're going to invade Greenland. 492 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 5: And you don't even know the name of the capital. 493 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 5: It's how to pronounce it. 494 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: And it's got a lot of vowels. It's got two vowels. Well, 495 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: it's got one vowel twice. 496 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: It's spelled nu uk nuk nuk Newark. 497 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 498 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: So in the capital, Newark, locals can play golf and 499 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: dine in a fine time restaurant. In smaller, remote settlements, 500 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: where wages are fifty percent lower, people bathe by hacking 501 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 5: out chunks of ice to melt. What's a tiny population 502 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: less than one hundred miles of paved road in the 503 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 5: whole country yes, it's it's a country slightly bigger than 504 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: Mexico with one hundred miles of paved road less. 505 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: Wow. So if you're born in Greenland, you're born into 506 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: like it's like being born on an Indian reservation in 507 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: a lot of ways. 508 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you're in the shining capital of Nuke, where 509 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 5: they play golf and dined at fine Thai restaurants. 510 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: That's what I like after a round of golf, Man, 511 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: do I get hungry for the pad tie? 512 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 5: Oh place, plase, go low on the lens, then grab 513 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 5: you a little pad tie? Nothing better, nothing better when 514 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 5: in Nuke. Tell you what, honey. I wasn't sure when 515 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 5: you said we ought to move to Nuke, but I'm 516 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: really enjoying it. Of Course, if I ever decide I 517 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 5: want to play pickle ball and eat I don't know, sushi. 518 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 2: I'm screwed. Now you gotta move to a different country. 519 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: Golf and Thai food, got that covered. Got your penguin 520 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: helpers washing your car and doing your laundry. 521 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: Assume that's what penguins do. 522 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: We occasionally have somebody emails say, would you please tell 523 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: Jack penguins exist in the Southern Hemisphere. The Antarctic, and 524 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 5: I would like to reply, No, I'm not gonna tell 525 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: them that it's too much fun to hear about penguins. 526 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: All the time. 527 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: What well, Hey, they got a little penguin knowledge, they're 528 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 5: gonna flaunt it. 529 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: They don't care for your. 530 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Careless penguin misinformation and disinformation. So we're gonna hold these 531 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: ridiculous jokes we've been making about Greenland for the last 532 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: year to close scrutiny of authenticity. 533 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: Well before the war begins. 534 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, let's see, we could compare the same person 535 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: who's gonna email and say Byork is a singer and 536 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: not actually in politics in either country. Oh okay, oh boy, 537 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: the elaborate costume wearing tunsmith is actually not interested in 538 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: the governance. 539 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: Let's see. So the Trump administration is offered to. 540 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 5: Buy the island, which the Greenland that government says is 541 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: not for sale. The Dane's gree administration officials of discuss 542 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 5: making payments directly to Greenlighters to win them over by them. Yes, 543 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 5: they're also considering a proposal that would involve Greenland becoming 544 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 5: independent from Denmark and receiving US payments to cover some 545 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: running costs in turn for preferential access for the US. 546 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: Point of comparison is the Marshall Islands, which recently renewed 547 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 5: what is called a Compact of Free Association with the 548 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 5: United States. The Pacific Islands government, which is fully dependent 549 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 5: on the US, receives one hundred and fifteen million dollars 550 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 5: a year from Washington and return from granting for granting 551 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: America authority over defense matters. 552 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's where we get into that complicated thing 553 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: that I don't quite understand. We're talking about yesterday, and 554 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: many people have written about we have had and have 555 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: the right to use greenland the way we need to 556 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: for defense. 557 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 5: So what are we trying to accomplish? I don't get it. 558 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: It's Trump being having a heart on for great real estate. Sorry, 559 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 5: with all the minerals and blah blah blah. That's what 560 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: it is. Honestly, I believe that. And you cannot swim 561 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 5: me from that. Because we had a gigantic base that 562 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 5: we downsized significantly. They're part of NATO, they're dependent on 563 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: us for their security. If we tell them, hey, this 564 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 5: is super super important that we put these weapons and 565 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: these facilities, blah blah blah, they will say yes, And 566 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 5: if they don't say yes, we'll say. 567 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing it anyway, and we will. 568 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: You give everybody ten gallons of whale oil and a 569 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: snowmobile and they're happy the rest of their lives. 570 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: Oh please, they jump at that deal. Who wouldn't. We'll 571 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: finish strong next dos y'all do it? I eat the one. 572 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: So yesterday I saw a couple of examples of editorialamity 573 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 5: comedy with the editorial purpose that I thought were pretty good. 574 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 8: Uh. 575 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: The one we're not going to play you was a 576 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 5: guy and it's funny. Both of these guys do the 577 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: same thing. They dress in ways that indicate to you 578 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: that they are real progressives. You know, some piercings, whether 579 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 5: fake or real progressive, cost T shirt, dyed hair, whatever, 580 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 5: because it kind of disarms the people that they're they're 581 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 5: making fun of or pointing out the truth to U. 582 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: And the one we're not gonna play is this guy 583 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 5: sees this car in the neighborhood and the bumper sticker 584 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 5: says abortion is healthcare, and he goes up to her 585 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 5: door claiming to be from an animal rights group that 586 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: is raising money to pay for animal healthcare. And when 587 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 5: the women indicates, yeah, she'd love to donate to that. 588 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 5: He says, yeah, it's mostly about aboarding puppies because there 589 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 5: are way too many puppies. She's like, oh my god, 590 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: you can't do that. 591 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: Why not because they're puppies, right, And he says, wait 592 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: a minute, and it's pretty good. How about that's pretty 593 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: commonly helped, believe. I bet you're right. Yeah, aboarding kittens 594 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: or puppies would just be horrific. 595 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: Well, right about the what about the rights of the 596 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 5: mother puppy or dog? 597 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: Rather, anyway, talk about the one we are going to play. 598 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 5: You is a guy by the name of Josh Sider 599 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 5: or a Sedar who's he's talking to a teacher or 600 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 5: an administrator at the edge of some school grounds. 601 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: I saw that you have. 602 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: A sign in the window. It says everyone is welcome 603 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 6: here except ice. If ice were to come onto the premises, 604 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 6: would you guys kick them off? 605 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely. We believe in the safety of our students in 606 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: our faculty, so we would have them leave. 607 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 6: Okay, isn't that how immigration works? I'm sorry, isn't that 608 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 6: how immigration works. Everyone's welcome except illegals, and if they 609 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: come into the country, we kick them out. 610 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Why are you asking you? 611 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: Well, it's a simple question. You should be able to 612 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: answer it, your teacher. 613 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know who you are. 614 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: You're filming as. 615 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: You don't need to know who I am. I'm undocumented, ma'am. 616 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 11: You're on full property and technically you're trust backround ma'am. 617 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 6: No one's trespassing on a legal land. 618 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: So okay, well we haven't shown me an id I don't. 619 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 6: Oh so now you need my papers? 620 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: Yes, you're on flow? 621 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 6: Are you the Gestapo? Now you want to see my papers? 622 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: And it goes on like that for a while. 623 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting when you run into progressive like that 624 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 5: or the other one I was describing, or the people 625 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 5: who can't tell you, as we played earlier, can a 626 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 5: man get pregnant? 627 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: Or is a boy who says I'm. 628 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 5: A girl really a girl? They can't give you a 629 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: straight answer. Now the real fanatics say yes, trans women 630 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: are women, and. 631 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Of course they're crazy. 632 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: But it's amazing how quickly they go to who are you? 633 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Why are you here? You got to get off my property? 634 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: Thought, I'm strong, I'm strong, You're ready, Katie Green and. 635 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: Strong. 636 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts. Joe Getty. 637 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew 638 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 5: to wrap up the show. There is Michael Angelou pressing 639 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 5: the buttons in the ConTroll or Michael, what's your final thought? 640 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 11: Yeah? 641 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: My final thought is about final thoughts. 642 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: Actually, I think we need some more final thought intros. 643 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: Would that be okay? 644 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 11: Oh? 645 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely good? Idea? 646 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 8: It some more? 647 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 648 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially the technology is even better now there 649 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: was before. You don't have to have any instruments or 650 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: talent at all. If you have an AI bot at all, 651 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: you could create some final thoughts intros for us. 652 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, email them, attach them to a mail bag at 653 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: Armstrong and Giddy dot com. 654 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: Good eddiean Michael. Katie Green has a final thought. 655 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Katie, since you guys did the story, I've been thinking 656 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: up my horror movie plot for the autonomous blood drawing machine. 657 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. God, you didn't hear about that. Woof, that's something 658 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: just either great idea or just a nightmare. Just stick 659 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: your arm in this hole, don't ask questions. Yeah, sit still, 660 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Jack a final thought for us. 661 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: So now Division one NCAA basketball, you got players on 662 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: the take for tens of thousands of dollars point shaving 663 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: around gambling. Do you think there'll be any changes in 664 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: gambling laws around all. 665 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: These There will be a great deal of interest in 666 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 5: figure during that out. I wish them luck. 667 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna change anything, but I don't 668 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: know how we're gonna stop this either. You know, a 669 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: couple of the players played this past season, including said 670 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Quavious Hunter. I just hope all the little kids on 671 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: playgrounds around the country names, said Quavious, aren't you know, 672 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: tarred by his bad behavior? 673 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: Right? 674 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: Armstrong yet EUSt getting wrapping of another grueling four hour workday. 675 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: So many people who thanks so little. 676 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Time go to Armstrong getdy dot com drops a note 677 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: mail bag at Armstrong yetdy dot com. 678 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: Check out the hot links Katie's corner. 679 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 5: You ought to be subscribing to Armstrong and Getty on 680 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 5: demand downloads automatically so you never miss a bit. Plus 681 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 5: you get the One More Thing podcast for no extra charge. 682 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow on Friday. God bless America. I'm strong 683 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: And when you get up in the moon and. 684 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: You listen to the show, I think you're gonna hit 685 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: the streets. 686 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 6: But Jack and Joel said no, no, no, don't. 687 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: Take the bait. Don't take the bait. Stay on the streets, 688 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 2: don't take the babe, Armstrong and Getty