1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: It's the almost famous podcast. Yes, we have officially reached. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: What I'm gonna say, Ashley is the beginning, the beginning 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: of a love story, the beginning of a journey into 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: now reality. It is the end of Charity season of 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: The Bachelorette, but the beginning of a beautiful relationship that 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: I would say we were not shocked to see coming. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was the greatest. It made me 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: feel so much. I loved I really loved this season. 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: And I was thinking while watching it last night, I 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 4: was like, I think Charity is my favorite lead. And 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 4: this is no offense to the other people who are 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: so kind and everything, and we've all met the leads 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: from the past few seasons, but she is my favorite 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: lead to watch as Why is that since Tasia and Claire. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just feel like she's like so. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: I just like I think I think bottom line is 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: I just relate with her personality the most. 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Okay, it just uh what her emotions, the way she 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: like communicates, the way she navigates you know, difficulty. 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like it's. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: Just her and that also I think I really thought 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: of it when she was interacting with her family. She 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: talks to her family like a girl talks to her family, 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: just like super raw, unfiltered. She did not care that 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: the camera's there. And I also just related to the 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: fact that she was like, can you just give me 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: an answer? I just want an answer. She was like, 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: I know this isn't like the adult thing to do, 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: but can you just tell me to pick? 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: I love it? Why do you think? Well, let's start here. 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Charity season is over? I agree. I think Charity was 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: great to watch. Now I will say, was Charity Uh see? 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: That was Charity season the most dramatic? No, is that 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: on her? 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: That's okay. 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: We've been saying that we don't even want to be loves. 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: We got one last night. 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: It was thrilling. It was so so awesome. I like 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: got a little tear in my eye. They're the perfect match. 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: And when I was watching them. 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: Get engaged, I was thinking she was meant to. 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: Be the bachelorette because these two were destined to be together. 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: I know we've said this watching certain proposals before. I 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: felt this. If I were to go back to my 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: other favorite Tasha and Zach. So. 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: I know that moments like that don't. 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: Always last, but let's just say that, like, I feel 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: really good about them, and I think this could be it. 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel great about him. I think, you know, 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: dancing with the Stars, as it was announced last night, 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: that's always a concern because it's a lot of time away. 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot of attention on it. If you talk 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: to any couple from Bachelor Nation that has done Dancing 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: with the Stars, it is a difficult process to get 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: through and keep through healthy. Now if you do, though, 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: it's not only a great payday. I think it can 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: build some strength, but it is difficult to do right, 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: you know, after an engagement. I feel great about him, 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: though I don't have a lot of worries. I will 64 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 2: be shocked if we ever see a headline that they're 65 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: not together. I think they're gonna be one of those 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation couples that people talk about and look at 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: with this like endearing eye and go wow, Like, this 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: show kind of does work, or it does work sometimes. 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm really pumped for the two of them. Let's kind 70 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: of break down though, Ashley, this episode a little bit. Obviously, 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: the Aaron b story was one that you and I 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: were curious about going into. We got to talk to 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: Sean McLoughlin yesterday and kind of got his input. If 74 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: you haven't listened to that episode yet, please go back 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: and do that. Aaron B shows back up to the beach. 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: She flies twelve hours to Fiji. We kind of have 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: a cliffhanger that's like two weeks long where we don't 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: know what Charity's gonna do with him. 79 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she did what we thought, sort of kind of. 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: She she gave him more time. She didn't give him 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: an overnight, but she gave him another date, which was surprising. 82 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: And I think that it's just like he was third place. 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: And she has said now since that Xavier, if she 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: had known about Savior's infidelity early on, she would not 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: have brought him that far. So you know, I would 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: consider Aaron B third place. 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: She likes him. 88 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: She said there wasn't enough time to get there, which 89 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: is a nice way of saying, it's just not you. 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: There's just stronger feelings for other people. 91 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: See, this is the thing. She keeps him around for 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: a more time than we expected. I don't think Charity 93 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: has ever doubted who the man at the end was 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: going to be like I think we like, I feel 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: like being in this position before. I think you always know. 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: I think there's questions, but I don't think you doubt it. 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: You just you're trying to convince yourself that maybe it's 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: too good to be true. You're trying to convince yourself 99 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: that maybe there's something wrong that you're not seeing. I 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: I will say, I don't think she ever doubted I 101 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: definitely don't think she ever doubted her final two. 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: She definitely didn't doubt her final two, which is why 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: it's where that she even entertained the AAR and B thing. 104 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. It is what it is, 105 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: she is, She did her thing. Aaron B was able 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: to stay a little bit longer than expected, and then 107 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: we find out that we're going to watch more of 108 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: Aaron B. A little bit of a surprise to me 109 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: that we're going to see Aaron B on the beach 110 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: in Paradise because he was there for so long. You 111 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: typically don't see those leads kind of go right into 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: Paradise on that first season. But I feel like he 113 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: is a good candidate for Paradise because yes, he was 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: in third, but really fourth and really never stood a 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: chance kind of towards the end of the show for him. 116 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: But I'm excited to see him on the beach. I 117 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: think we're going to see a different side of Aaron 118 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: b one that isn't so protective of charity but more 119 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: intrigued by you know who's there. 120 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he never stood a chance to be the Bachelor. 121 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: Joey was definitely gonna be the Bachelor if he did. 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: Why do you say that? Though? 123 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: He's like what every girl wants the Bachelor to be. 124 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: He's just like that very approachable, classic, good looking bachelor 125 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 4: that I feel like people have been waiting for because 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: he is like good inside and out and we know him, 127 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: you know, because the past few Bachelor picks Clayton and 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: Zach Sorry for the shout outs, but like we didn't 129 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: feel like we knew them as much yeers, And now 130 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: we're like, oh, we're going with somebody who was a 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 4: runner up, who people really were rooting for. I think 132 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: that there hasn't been like two people. I was very 133 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: much team Dotton, Okay, like I was, But I think 134 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 4: if you were to ask people like I was just 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: on the phone with my sister, everybody would pretty much 136 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: have been like, oh, I get her choice either way. 137 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: People really like these top two, That's that's what I'm saying. 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: Really really liked them, invested in both those stories, and 139 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: we just haven't had a lead who's we haven't had 140 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: a male lead that we've rooted for in such a 141 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: long time, because I think we got to go back 142 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: to Matt James, who we didn't know at all. Then 143 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: we had the random Clayton, and then we had Zach 144 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 4: who came in was it third or fourth for Rachel, 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: which we we had two separate stories that. 146 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: Year's so many people deprised, We have. 147 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: So many people. 148 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and people still didn't love Zach and Rachel, so 149 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: I you know, also weird pick. People are going to 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: be really excited for him, and he also has the 151 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: look that girls are gonna be like, oh, he's cute. 152 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: I want to watch the show, even though I haven't 153 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: been watching for the past few seasons. 154 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: I think it's a good pick. I mean, I would 155 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: even throw Ari into that category two where it's like 156 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: Ari haven't been around for a few years. It's not 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: like the current fan base was involved in his story. 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: He kind of had to reintroduce himself, and so it 159 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: has been a long time since we've had a lead 160 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: that we've become familiar with. We've seen their you know, 161 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: get broken, but then also step back out into the 162 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: lead position, which I think is I do I feel 163 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: like after Charity season and after watching it, this felt 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: like a throwback season, and I imagine Joey's will feel 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: the same. 166 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: I think they could start getting people back because and 167 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: I think their plan is this. 168 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: They're going to air The Golden Bachelor. 169 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah on Thursdays, which is weird, but that's only an 170 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: hour long show, which can really grab people. They can 171 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: dedicate an hour and you know, if you're watching Hulu 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: forty minutes, so that's at eight o'clock. And I think 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: you're going to get so many fans back to watch 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: that show, and then they're going to stick around for 175 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: Paradise and maybe learn some key players from the past year, 176 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: because I mean, yeah, it rolls over into Paradise, like, 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: oh yeah, I used to watch Paradise a few seasons. Look, 178 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: it's just easy to get into. So I think we're 179 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: on the right trajectory here. I also just want to 180 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: give whoever styled Joey a huge a huge raw. 181 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: The hair and whatever was going on. 182 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: Because I was watching the finale and like during the 183 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: tropical scenes, you know, before he got broken up, I'm like. 184 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: What is this dude doing with this hair? It's so weird. 185 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: He straightens it at the top and the curls come 186 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: out in the side, and I was like, he's a 187 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: cute guy. He's not like totally and not that. I'm like, yes, 188 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm a married woman, but I'm allowed to say it. 189 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: He's not like totally my type, but like I can 190 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: understand the appeal. And then he sat on that stage 191 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: and I was like, that's a damn handsome man. That 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: is a freaking bachelor. That is the bachelor treatment that 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 4: I loved seeing back in the day. I felt the 194 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: same way about chrys Soles when I was on Crystals. 195 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: Is like watching Andy season knowing that one of those 196 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 4: guys is gonna be my bachelor. 197 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what chrys Soles is 198 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: my type. 199 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: And then leading up to the filming of my season, 200 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: you can see them do the little transformation. I don't 201 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: little what they do to you guys. I know, hair 202 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: is a big component, maybe a little spray tan. I 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: don't know what it is. You can tell me, but 204 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: like then all of a sudden, crystals got really hot. 205 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 4: And then when I walked out that limo, I was like, 206 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: that was the hottest man I've ever seen. 207 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: So, Ben, what did I do to you? I think 208 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: it's confidence. Okay, you know I've shared my story. My 209 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: I had a Bachelor glow down because. 210 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: He did what do you mean? 211 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: Well, I went look at Watch Night one because like 212 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: your sickness. No I'm sick, but no Watch Night one. 213 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: I got my hair cut and the barber shaved it 214 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: too close in the sides and they had to spray 215 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: fake like chalk in my hair so it wasn't like 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: white wall all around my head. 217 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: Well must that part must have grown back within like 218 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 3: two or three weeks. You probably have end. 219 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's confidence. I think it's wardrobe, 220 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, the tailoring. 221 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that suit was perfect on him. 222 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: I think I think it is though. I think once 223 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: you were told hey, you belong here, in any situation 224 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: in life, there is like a glow that comes out 225 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: of you. And I think the Bachelor and Bachelor does 226 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: that to people, is hey, we want you to be 227 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: uh here because we believe that you're going to be, 228 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, a good lead, and I think that kind 229 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: of makes you perk up a bit, you know, it 230 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: makes you smile a little bit bigger. Am these these 231 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: women and women are working out very hard in between 232 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: shows to get in the best shape of their life. 233 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: Not always reflects in your face as well. 234 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. So really excited for Joey's season. I 235 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: do think it's a great pick. I am excited for this, 236 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: But we're gonna go back here to to enjoy getting dumped. Well, yeah, 237 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: dott and Charity for a second. You know, this wasn't 238 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: a surprise to us or to you especially. I thought 239 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: there was going to be a twist. I thought it 240 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: was too good to be true. I'm glad it was 241 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: too good and it's gonna be true, and it is 242 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: true today. But you know, let's let's talk for a 243 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: second about Charity's time with her. 244 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: Family the best. That was great. I was looking forward 245 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: to it, and it lived up. 246 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: It lived up. When the show, I think knows who 247 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: the final choice is gonna be, it's really hard for 248 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: that final choice, which I think is unfair to get 249 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: to get the benefit of the doubt from the family 250 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: because I think there's a lot of ears in the 251 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of voices in the family's ears. They 252 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: don't know the producers. They don't know what the producers 253 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: are trying to accomplish here, and so they'll come in 254 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: and say, you know, things like, oh, Charity and Joey, 255 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: that couple is meant to be together. Just wait to 256 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: see them walk into the room. You're gonna just tell that, 257 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: like they they are namored with each other. So obviously 258 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: question so interesting. Okay, family was gonna ask what about Dotton. 259 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: They're gonna say, you know, it's really great. There's still 260 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: a lot of questions, but it's it's it's good. It's good. 261 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: You'll just have to see them sci fi semes. Yeah, 262 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: but I'll tell you this, but Joey and Charity, like 263 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: that is a special relationship. So the family comes in going, 264 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: I have no clue who these people are. I'm trusting 265 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 2: their voices, and they seem to think that Joey's the 266 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: best choice for her, and so I'm gonna roll with that, 267 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go with that. And it's so easy 268 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: to convince a human of something, especially when they have 269 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: no knowledge of any background into it, and I think 270 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: that's what happened here. 271 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, I tell it to you last night. 272 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: You text me last night and you said, this feels 273 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: very similar to the Lauren and Jojo situation, and I thought, yes, 274 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: it was, because I know what happened and I know 275 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: how this played out. And it's unfair, I think for 276 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: the lead, because then they're gonna have to watch this 277 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: back and be like, oh great, my future in laws 278 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: are pretty critical of me. 279 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: They don't really like me, I know, to win them over, 280 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: and then you feel extra pressure every time you seem 281 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: in real life for a while. 282 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: So the best way I think to do that is 283 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: just like for the in laws to step up and 284 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: call DoD and be like, hey, here's the deal. Here's 285 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: what went down. We don't know anything about you. If 286 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: you're if we're gonna if Charity was basing her marriage 287 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: on a four hour long day that we had together, 288 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: that's a big problem, and so Dotten. We were very 289 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: thankful you're here. We can't wait to get to know 290 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: you better. We didn't, you know, all that stuff that 291 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: was said was just a part of the process. 292 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: They actually didn't say anything bad. They said everything good 293 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: about Dotton. They just they just overemphasized their love for Joey. 294 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: They definitely were showing preferential treatment to him. 295 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: Sure, they were definitely doing that. And I mean a 296 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: part of that too is the show, right. I mean, 297 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: how so, if you're sitting down at an interview and 298 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: you're getting two questions about Dotton, what do you think 299 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: of Dotton? How do you feel about Dotten? You answered 300 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: both those, but then you're getting thirty questions asked to 301 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: you about Joey. It's gonna feel like you talk about 302 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: Joey a lot more than you talk about Dotton. 303 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. Well, this is what went on 304 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: for me. 305 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: I was like, she kept saying in this moment, She's like, 306 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: tell me who I should pick, tell me joe should pick. 307 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: And then her mom was like, your gut knows, Your 308 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: gut knows, and she goes, my gud doesn't know this 309 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: time that it knows. 310 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: It knows. 311 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: And I think that she got defensive with her family 312 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: because they were preferring Joey, and in her true guts, 313 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: she knew it was Dotton. And I was like, girl, 314 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: you are like your behavior here is what one hundred 315 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: percent proof that you're supposed to be with Dotton, because 316 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: if your family was saying dot and dot and Dotton, 317 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: she'd be like, Yep. 318 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: You're right. 319 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. And I think there's a 320 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: part of this when you meet to families. There's a 321 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: lot of build up to that, and you haven't seen 322 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: your family for months. They don't know anything about your 323 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: story to this point, so you're excited for them and you, 324 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: And if you have a close relationship with your family, 325 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: you want their input. Their input matters, and really all 326 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: you want them to do is like give you that 327 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: last little nudge to be like, hey, it's okay if 328 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: you get engaged here. I know this is weird, I 329 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: know this is awkward. I know this is hard, but 330 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: it's okay. You should if you're feeling it, you should 331 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: go for it. That's really what the lead needs and wants. 332 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: But the opinions of you know who's still there, they 333 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: just exist because it's part of the show. I don't 334 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: look too far into it. I think every season we've 335 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: seen this storyline play out in different ways. We can 336 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: go back to obviously this season that I was on, 337 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: to JoJo's season, to Caitlin's season, at some level, even 338 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: though it kind of got messed up, Like every time 339 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: the lead you should know who the who the last 340 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: person is going to be based on the family's reactions. 341 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: Because it's usually the opposite. 342 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: It's usually the opposite. 343 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: For for some reason, this time. 344 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: Rang a bell to your season more than any I remember, 345 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: just because I think it was such a great love 346 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: story between her and Dowton, and I think that they 347 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: were really trying to throw us off with the family. 348 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just I. 349 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: Just it felt like they were trying to purposely throw 350 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: us off more. And I also think it had to 351 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: do with lead two people that were remaining that were 352 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 4: really well liked, and the audience was pretty torn as 353 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 4: to who was gonna win, because I feel like with you, 354 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 4: people were super torn who it was going to be. 355 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: You were pretty you yourself really torn. So maybe it's 356 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: not the audience. Maybe it's when the lead seems extremely torn, 357 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: they're going to throw us off with the family opinion. 358 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Sure. I also think the show was a little wearried 359 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: this season that it would be very obvious who she 360 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: was going to end up with from like week two. Yeah, 361 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: and it still was like it still was pretty obvious. 362 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't think either of us doubted that they had 363 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: something special, So I think the show was protecting themselves 364 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: by trying to throw in one little like wrench to say, hey, 365 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: maybe your assumptions aren't correct. Maybe these are good teasers. 366 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: They're good for trailers, they're good for emotion, they're good 367 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: for a show. So this leads us into then the dates, 368 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: the time that Charity gets to spend with each of 369 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: her final two on the last week. These are important dates. Actually, 370 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: they're meaningful. They're the last moment, and you really hope, 371 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: I think as the lead to walk out of these 372 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: dates more like confident. It's it's kind of like the 373 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: final closure, where it's you're spending time with them, and 374 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: after it's done, you can take a deep breath and say, 375 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: this process is coming to an end. I'm gonna end 376 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: up breaking up with one of these people who I 377 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: care about a lot, But now I get to move forward, 378 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: like I can start to see the light at the 379 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: end of the tunnel. At least that was my experience. 380 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 4: I also think that this is another moment where they 381 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: try to throw us off, and this is actually a 382 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: moment for me in which I thought that maybe Charity 383 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: was leading Joey on. I do think that Joey's date 384 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 4: came first, but I still think that her gut was 385 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: secret unbeknownst to her telling her done, and she really 386 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: made it seem to Joey like she was going to 387 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: pick him. To the point of just saying like I 388 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: love you so many times was. 389 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit Overbrod. I don't know, maybe it's 390 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: a little bit Overbrod. 391 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 4: I know she's just like speaking her truth, But I 392 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 4: wonder the double standard would have been. 393 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: If this was a guy saying it to two girls. 394 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: At the end, well, I mean, we know what that 395 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: looks like because. 396 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: The amount of time, so we have to bring this up. 397 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous. It happens every season now. 398 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: It was like I, if I was Joey, I would 399 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: have been convinced after this date that she was picking me. 400 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: But don't you think Joey's reaction to this was different 401 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: than past seasons. We'll say it that way, where I 402 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: do feel like this was a validation for Joey to 403 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: the point where when he was asked to go home. Yes, 404 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: there's tears and there's sadness and there's confusion, there's chaos, 405 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: but he also has a very I mean it seemed 406 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: like it from when they sat by each other that 407 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: he has a very clear understanding of how deep and 408 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: how much charity felt for him, which you know, as 409 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: I've mentioned before, was my goal in the whole thing. No, 410 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: not the right thing, but I do think he took 411 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: it as this is really hard. 412 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 4: For her totally, and it seems like he respected that 413 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: in the end, because he was not the guy that 414 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: was like. 415 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: You told me this, Like he didn't. 416 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: I almost think that he didn't even feel that on 417 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: He was just so amazing. It was the moment that 418 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: he was like, I just want you to be happy 419 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: and your choice this is like at the elder and 420 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: your choice to not pick me is you going on 421 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: your road to bigger happiness. 422 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is the bachelor we need. 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: His response getting dumped at the ulcer was his bachelor moment, 424 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: because we've seen so many guys get pissy up there 425 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: and just leave and not want to hear what the 426 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 4: other person is saying. But they were like embracing each 427 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: other so hard, and they kept telling each other that 428 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: they loved each other and that they were always going 429 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: to have love, and it was like, oh, this man, 430 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: yeah he deserves this, this is this is incredible. 431 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: This is a true man and he really really. 432 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: You know, I think I've said this before. I don't 433 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 4: know how people. Maybe I'm a horrible person. I don't 434 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: know how people can be like, I just want you 435 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: to be happy when you're being dumbed, okay, you know, 436 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: And he really was that person, and that is a 437 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 4: bigger person than me or I imagine myself would be in 438 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: that situation. 439 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to assume. Maybe he knew, 440 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: maybe he had an idea, Maybe he could tell that 441 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: something was off and that he wasn't going to be there. 442 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: We didn't see it. Yeah, maybe he was, you know, 443 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: standing there and he he's a quick thinker, and he's like, okay, like, 444 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: I like this girl. She's amazing, and I want to 445 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: say this to her because she shouldn't feel bad about 446 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: what steps she's taking now for her happiness. If any 447 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: and we're both gonna be okay, I don't know. 448 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: I still applaud his composure. 449 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: If he was even like okay, like I'm gonna go 450 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: break down after this, but I'm going to save this 451 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: face for ten minutes. 452 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: That's still like it was his bachelor moment. You're right, 453 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: everybody has it, well, at least uh the ones that 454 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: you know end up shining on the Bachelor have it. 455 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: They have their bachelor moment, and this was it, and 456 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: it was one that I think will bring a lot 457 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: of people to cheer for him, to root for him, 458 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: to be excited about him being the bachelor. He's I 459 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: don't think he's going in with much criticism. I don't 460 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: think many anybody's out there being like, oh, it should 461 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 2: have been so and so there's no that. Yeah, there's 462 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: no that, which is very uncommon when we get to 463 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: this point in a season. So I do feel like 464 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: he's going to uh be a great bachelor and to 465 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: be one that is rooted for by many. 466 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. All right. 467 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: So then Charity in Dowton's last day, the thing to 468 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: really mention here is he called her a treasure. 469 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 3: He calls her a treasure. That's all we really need 470 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: to know. 471 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: He shows insecurity for the first time, and I will 472 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: say it was warranted because she did bring up Joey 473 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: for the first time in their like personal time. 474 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: He's been really good though, I mean, up to this point, 475 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: he's been really understanding. 476 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: He's a confidence, quite confidence, quiet confidence. 477 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 478 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: I mean you're day away from potentially being with his treasure, 479 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: so of course there's going to be insecurity. Like that 480 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: just makes you really like happy. Doesn't it to be 481 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: called a treasure? 482 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: I know nobody says that. 483 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: It's like, oh he does. 484 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: I know, Doton, he's a prince charming. 485 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: I love him so much. 486 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so then well let's get to their their proposal. 487 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: It's just everything I want a bachelor proposal to be. 488 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: I got a little tear now. 489 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: The impressive part for me watching this is I you know, 490 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: I've been in this situation there there is not a 491 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: script like you write this preparing for it. 492 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: So impressive, So you know obviously you. 493 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: Like kind of black out. It's a very nerve wracking moment. 494 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: It's a very vulnerable moment because you start talking and 495 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: you don't like especially as a contestant, and you don't 496 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: know like if you're going to be there in the 497 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: end or not, if you're gonna get broken up with 498 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: after you say all these things that are very sweet 499 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: and kind as a lead, it's super weird because you're 500 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: asked not to interrupt, which I think is fair, like 501 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: you can't interrupt. 502 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: Or you should help my God, thank you, I love. 503 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: It, yeah, or you can't say stop, or you can. 504 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: It's just like when's it appropriate to be like, hey, stop, 505 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: this is over. But you do prepare these things here, 506 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: and I do. I think that both of theirs was 507 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: very beautiful. 508 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: They're like wedding vows. 509 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: Okay, they're usually wedding vows basically, but these were just different. 510 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 4: I'm going to read a couple of these lines. He 511 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: talks about how he was like if he was imagining 512 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: himself as a four year old, the kid on the 513 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: immigration card that he gave her during the last day, 514 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 4: he would never imagine where he was today. He just 515 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: wanted to have love and give love. And he tells 516 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: Charity that she makes him feel so special, adored, validated, 517 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: and wanted, and he's certain that he wants to spend 518 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 4: the rest of her life, his life with her, and 519 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: he wouldn't change a single thing about her. I think 520 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: that he said something along the lines of like a 521 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 4: woman of your caliber, that's amazing. He was like, you're 522 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: just so confident and like, I can't imagine it is 523 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: a dream come true that a woman like you would 524 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: choose to be with somebody like me. Amazing. And then 525 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: she says she goes back to Oceanside where they shared 526 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 4: a moment that changed her life. When she looked in 527 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: his eyes in that moment, she saw a man that 528 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 4: respected her, value to her, adored her, and a man 529 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 4: that she could love forever. He's made her feel alive 530 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: and made her know that she can love again. She 531 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 4: wants a future with him, and she wants to call 532 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: him her husband. Ugh, it was just incredible. 533 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: I love this moment. I love seeing them on stage 534 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: because when we. 535 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: See them brought out on stage, you know, we're always 536 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: looking for cues as to maybe this isn't as fairy 537 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 4: tale like as it ended on you know, on that altar, 538 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: and it is. 539 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: They look great. 540 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: It's very fairy tale. Congratulations to two of them, obviously. 541 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: Then they get the announcement where Dog gets to reveal 542 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: to Charity that she's going to be on Dancing with 543 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: the Stars. That's a big next step. We talked about 544 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: that beginning. It's a huge step. It's a lot of time, 545 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: but I believe, yes, their fairy tale will continue. I 546 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: don't have a doubt for them personally. Also, as we've 547 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: talked about, Joey was announced as the next bachelor, and 548 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 2: then Dott and Charity are going on a little trip 549 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: to Greece. Lucky her, she is just living her best 550 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: life right now. She is living. Yeah, the bachelorette dream. 551 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: It is not going to end anytime soon. Ashley final 552 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: thoughts on this season as we wind up this breakdown 553 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: of Charity season of The. 554 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: Bachelorette, I think that if you didn't watch this season, 555 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: which if you didn't watch the season, you're. 556 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: Probably not listening to this episode. 557 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 4: Sure, but if you didn't, I think they gave us 558 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: exactly what we were asking for sure, And I think 559 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: it was a little bit of a renaissance for the 560 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: old school seasons, and I think it should be watched, 561 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: and I think this couple should be absolutely adored on well. 562 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: With that, congratulations to Charity in Dott and we are 563 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: so excited for you, and congratulations to Joey for being 564 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: the next bachelor. But Charity and Dot and we hope 565 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: if you ever hear this or you get a clip 566 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: of it, or if itever makes a headline that the 567 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: two of you are together We're excited to celebrate you 568 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: as a couple here at the Almost Samis podcast. We 569 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: can't wait to catch up with you soon. 570 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: There was a lot more in this episode, like the 571 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: fact that Jesse kept teasing that there was somebody in 572 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: the audience who was going to have their life change 573 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 4: and was going to be on the new season and 574 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: meet the new Bachelor aka Joey at the end of 575 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: the night, and we did get that. 576 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: She seems like a sweet girl. She's from Hawaii and 577 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: that's where Joey currently lives. 578 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: And there's apparently another surprise that'll be waiting for us 579 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: on the first episode of that season because she got 580 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: an envelope. It's not a day card, but we won't 581 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: find out what was in the envelope until she gets 582 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: out of the limo into the Bachelor mansion. So we 583 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: also got the Bachelor and Paradise trailer. 584 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: It looks really good. 585 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: There's some stuff that we want to break down, so 586 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: we're going to do a separate episode for that along 587 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 4: with Bachelor headlines this week. Just keep refreshing those podcast feeds. 588 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: It'll be in your library very soon. 589 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on iHeartRadio, 590 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.