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Speaker 1: Thank you for your coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 1: Would you consider, because you're so versed, because you're so

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Speaker 1: well ridd because you know the history of this country

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Speaker 1: and you understand what our people are going through, would

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Speaker 1: you ever consider running for political office?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I gotta I gotta get I gotta get rid.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get some paper though, Yeah, real talk y'all

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Speaker 2: want to be unbribable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. See, a lot of our folks get caught up

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Speaker 3: because they're poor. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: What I mean is when you're poised, when you like,

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Speaker 2: if you look at white politicians, their doctors, their lawyers,

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Speaker 2: their engineers, their people that understand the economy and finance,

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Speaker 2: so they are above they are above certain levels of ribery. Man,

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Speaker 2: some of my folks get caught taking thirty seven hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars for a goddamn youth league team or some shit,

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Speaker 2: and you be like, God, damn.

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Speaker 3: Bro, you too intelligent. We ain't need to lose you

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Speaker 3: for what you know.

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Speaker 2: So for me, it's important that I that I have

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Speaker 2: a certain amount stability. So when I get at about

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Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty three million dollars, and you can

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Speaker 2: see me and pop up. I run for something local,

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Speaker 2: hyper local, you know what I mean. So I want

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Speaker 2: I want to service my community, but right now they're

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Speaker 2: the best thing I can do. The service my communities

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Speaker 2: be as strong individual as I can take care of

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Speaker 2: this women and children, you know, take care of my sisters,

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Speaker 2: my take care of my nieces, nephews and and once

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Speaker 2: we as a family get stable, you know, I want

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Speaker 2: to be the I want to be the Kennedy's. You

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Speaker 2: know I want to be I want to I've seen

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Speaker 2: the King family. I've seen the King family keep the integrity.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the King family make good investments. I've seen

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Speaker 2: Bernice and Dexter God bless it dead, and Landa God

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Speaker 2: bless it dead, and Martin the Third do solid investments

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Speaker 2: in our community. And so I want to be that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to be pandering.

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Speaker 2: I remember Bernie Sanders, I met with the OG one

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Speaker 2: time in DC, me King and then the tournament, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I think it was Eddie Gott too, But

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Speaker 2: but Bernie said, you used to come to DC to

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Speaker 2: make a change and go back home and say this

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Speaker 2: is the change we've made. Now we've just become a

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Speaker 2: political fundraising, you know.

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Speaker 3: And and I didn't like the idea of that. That's

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Speaker 3: not what I want to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: You had young thug on dad also yeah, shouts out

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Speaker 1: the thumb. Well it makes you this, What do you

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Speaker 1: feel about? I don't get this. Why would all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they release those jail those recorded jail house calls?

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Speaker 2: I mean as a consortive effort to keep black people

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Speaker 2: out of power. As Thug matured, I saw him mature

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Speaker 2: as a human being as he matured passed.

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Speaker 3: You're young, you got ego.

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Speaker 2: I remember sitting with him, and this is before he

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Speaker 2: ever went to jail, got released him saying, man, I

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Speaker 2: can't I can't feel no way about Luci. He take

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Speaker 2: too good the care of his mam and his children,

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Speaker 2: so I don't want to see noth happen to him.

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Speaker 2: Now he's saying this is we record and run. This

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Speaker 2: is not after he's men in jail, right, And I've

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Speaker 2: seen him say it post that. I talked to Lucie

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Speaker 2: and heard Luke say, man, I don't have no problem

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Speaker 2: with Thug. I don't want them show I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to make money, take care of my family.

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Speaker 3: I think at the core. We all want the same things.

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Speaker 2: But our pride of negos A lot of times fuel

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Speaker 2: is added to a fire because of the people around us,

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Speaker 2: because of beats and stuff we don't have.

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Speaker 3: And my hope for a thug and Luci.

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Speaker 2: My hope for all these young men that are coming

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Speaker 2: up in Atlanta is for them to take time to

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Speaker 2: be men toward by the black men and women that

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Speaker 2: over the last sixty years of shape and form that community.

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Speaker 3: Because what you don't.

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Speaker 2: Understand is a lot of time our behavior is an

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Speaker 2: embarrassment to them and it loses them political equity and

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Speaker 2: real equity and money. Atlanta is Atlanta and it's a

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Speaker 2: special place. I feel like Atlanta should be treated by

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Speaker 2: Black people like Mecca is the Muslims.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: You have economic opportunity thanks to Maynard Jackson. You have

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Speaker 2: economic opportunity on ten and internationally because of people like

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Speaker 2: Andy Young. You have economic opportunity because of Shirley Franklin,

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Speaker 2: Bill Campbell, Keisha Lamb's Botms Casin read Mayor Dickens.

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Speaker 3: You have economic opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Your reputation and the reputation you bring that city could

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Speaker 2: possibly ruin it. If you two thuggish you two ruggish

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Speaker 2: you too outlandish, your two bare bams minimum bullshit in

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Speaker 2: especially violence. Violence is not good for money.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Violence is not good for bringing new hotels, for bringing

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Speaker 2: new tours, bringing new conferences, bringing Super Bowl, FIFA, Major

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Speaker 2: League base thought.

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Speaker 3: Is not good.

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Speaker 2: So when we as the entertainment and athlete class, we

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Speaker 2: have two choices.

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Speaker 3: We can take the.

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Speaker 2: Low road and do the typical bullshit and be the

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Speaker 2: top of the street and we all know where that

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Speaker 2: ends up jail or early funeral. Or we could be

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Speaker 2: the youngest and the mentees of the business class and

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Speaker 2: the social class to say, hey, this is how we

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Speaker 2: can make the city better. We could take our cues

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Speaker 2: from the people in the streets organizing. We can take

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Speaker 2: our cues from the people who are who are who

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Speaker 2: are those big suites organizing making it hurt? Like Andy

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Speaker 2: built a don with no public money. He was a

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Speaker 2: build our city and not have to overtax you out

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Speaker 2: tax you keish Land's bottoms, put a furlough on anybody

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Speaker 2: building that would take the taxes up on legacy residents.

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Speaker 2: These people have made the right investments, so we need

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Speaker 2: to consult with the keish Lands.

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Speaker 3: Boblems of Michael Thurmers.

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Speaker 2: We need to say what can we do to be

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Speaker 2: better because if we don't, we're going to lose a

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Speaker 2: city for our people that generates so much money, in

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Speaker 2: so much economic opportunity. And we don't understand that because

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Speaker 2: we used to nobody paying us attention. We used to

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Speaker 2: who teachers then pay attention to us like we want to,

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Speaker 2: nobody else sees well the students paying attention to you,

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Speaker 2: and we owe those students in the opportunity. So I

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Speaker 2: would say, in Atlanta, keep rapping, keep making money, keep

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Speaker 2: slamming basketballs, keep scoring touchdowns, keep getting home runs. But

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Speaker 2: keep your ass in front of a YouTube of John O'Brien,

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Speaker 2: keep your ass in front of when Stokely Carmichael or

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Speaker 2: Kwamanturi spoke at Uga. Go look at those old tapes

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Speaker 2: and you will understand. We have a greater responsibility than

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Speaker 2: just the flash of white now. We have a greater

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Speaker 2: responsibility than just the winning of right now. Our responsibility

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Speaker 2: should be to plan a tree that we'll never get

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Speaker 2: to enjoy the shade of that these two three four

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Speaker 2: generations down would get an opportunity to say, like I

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Speaker 2: can say about Alonzo Hardy, who started the Atlanta Life

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Speaker 2: barbershop that serviced all white men, but it was all

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Speaker 2: black barbers. He heard about the insurance game, life insurance

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Speaker 2: you require Life the Atlanta Life Insurance Company, he said,

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Speaker 2: I saw this interview with Killer Mike. And that's the

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Speaker 2: unique thing about you as in Atlanta. As in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: you get to live your history. Your black history don't

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Speaker 2: just happen in February. Your black history is happening every day.

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Speaker 2: And your black ass has a responsibility, and part of

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Speaker 2: the responsibility is to rise above the streets. You got

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to rise above the streets and become somebody

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Speaker 2: because you have kids that are coming after you, that

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Speaker 2: look up to you, that admire you, and they need

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Speaker 2: to know that the opportunity is there. Atlanta ain't been

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Speaker 2: no champion city because we got no funky ass reality

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Speaker 2: show programs, or some've been singing and dancing since nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: This is one hundred and twenty four years of accident.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at book t Washington WB DO boys had

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta conferasce here and it was nineteen oh four

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Speaker 2: nineteen oh five. Alonzo Herney had been there since nineteen hundred.

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Speaker 2: So you have a social responsibility. John Wesley Dobbs was

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Speaker 2: the mayor of Black Atlanta before there was. His grandson

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Speaker 2: became the mayor of All Atlanta. We have a responsibility.

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Speaker 2: We have that responsibility in Savannah, We have that responsibility

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Speaker 2: it's nobody thought. Like mister John told me down the

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Speaker 2: And that's a goddamn lie, he said. The kids thought

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Speaker 2: the ball and they sold it, and they sold it

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Speaker 2: is to learn to do good business and become businessmen

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Speaker 1: You wrote a letter for wife and Lucie. Yes, why'd

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Speaker 1: you do it? What made you do that? Because it's

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Speaker 1: the right thing to do that. Brother is better on

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Speaker 1: I remember getting a call for some very powerful people

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Speaker 1: I know you have some relationship with him.

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Speaker 3: Although it wasn't a very deep, a long relationship.

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Speaker 2: Drew as my guy love his lawyer, have grown the

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Speaker 2: love and respect the hell out of Brian Steele, who

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Speaker 2: defended Dog. I consider both of them friends now and

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Speaker 2: I talked to them more often than not. But I

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Speaker 3: Tell them it's time to cut the bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Tip got the call, said, hey man, called up, tell

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Speaker 2: Me and Tip both did what we actually do. We

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Speaker 2: don't even know what you're talking about, you know, Big

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Speaker 2: home and little Homey talk so little home man, I

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Speaker 2: next thing, you know, all hell broke loose and everybody

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Speaker 3: Because you guys.

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Speaker 2: Who think that you run the streets, God bless our souls,

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Speaker 2: because I've been one of them.

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Speaker 3: Guys. We don't run shit.

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Speaker 2: The black political class in the Southeast runs us with

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Speaker 2: an absolute hand. And if you get in the way

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Speaker 2: the Carolinas, if you're getting aware of that airport money

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta, they got somewhere that'll sit you on ass

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Speaker 2: sound for a few years. And if you have a reputation,

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Speaker 2: they've been ruining each other's reputation in politics so long.

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Speaker 3: You don't think they know how to ruin our reputation.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Your voice is soothing. You just have a way with words,

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Speaker 2: understand that, Hey man, you gonna win something, you gonna

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Speaker 2: And then I got a message in my Facebook one

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Speaker 2: I remember how the big Horma felt about you. But

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Speaker 2: this chef to stop. You know, there's somebody man right

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Speaker 2: Big U. They got their brother, They got their brother

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Speaker 2: said wait. He never never asked us anything, never forced

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Speaker 2: So a lot of this is just a part of

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Speaker 2: highly suspect of a system that has an incentive to

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Speaker 2: the Next Level Boys Academy in Atlanta, me and Matthews

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Speaker 2: is Jeff Ford's daughter, and they get young men together

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Speaker 2: rashashauna where you get together and you ask each one

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Speaker 2: need to develop systems like that in our community. Well,

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Speaker 2: we can sit down and say, man, I know idea,

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Speaker 2: you're wrong, and I'm asking that you forgive me and

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Speaker 2: give each other an opportunity to give each other grace.

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Speaker 3: It's an ultimate character.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at who was the last person

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Speaker 2: somebody that was loathed, somebody nobody care about. Christ gave

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Speaker 2: I would just say, we need to learn to give

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Speaker 2: We need to be real leaders amongst our cruise and

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Speaker 2: tell our crews, hey man, that beef we had, that

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 2: We don't need another dead man troop dead. We don't

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Speaker 2: need another dead man. We've lost too many good people

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Speaker 2: trouble dead. We don't need another dead man, you know.

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Speaker 2: So we need to figure out a way to get

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Speaker 3: That's all. Kendrick put you on the pimple Butterfly. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, I appreciate him. I just man, Man, thank you, Kate.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad somebody was paying attention to death like I was.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to have been mentioned by him. Boy, I

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Speaker 2: love getting you know, ship and that and that's for

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Speaker 2: Just just amazing. What TV is Baby was able to

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Speaker 3: You are work with Q Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because man, I don't sometimes me personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you get to get the love and

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm a studento oh man, oh man, he ain't.

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Speaker 2: Man he he the one him man Ice Cuban scarface.

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Speaker 3: I'm a direct student of them. You can hear him

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Speaker 2: But that boy, oh Jackson, send your man, oh Man,

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Speaker 2: that man don't play everything he has become. You know,

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Speaker 2: He's always been proud to be brilliant. He's always using

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Speaker 2: where you thought he could go. When he showed you

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Speaker 2: You has shown me since I was twelve years old

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Speaker 2: that all possibilities are possible. When you see Killer Mike

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Speaker 2: When you see me next to Ethan Hawk, I'm unafraid.

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Speaker 2: I'm informed by Ethan On this is how you pull

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Speaker 2: it off. But An unafraid because I saw my idol

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Speaker 2: do it with Priority Records. I've seen him do it

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Speaker 2: with Hollywood. I've seen him be a black man standing up.

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Speaker 2: I seen him be married the one black woman create

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Speaker 2: these black children. I just shot a scene with o'she

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Speaker 2: and I say, first of all, Trippy, you look so

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I scraped it up.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna tell you, but I thanked him for

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Speaker 2: hop's finally fifty one to fifty two years old. It's

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Speaker 2: finally old enough for you to go back on no

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Speaker 2: STARSI run. Make him a part of that. Nostals run,

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Speaker 2: Make ice Cube a part of that. Make make make

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Speaker 3: A part of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, the ghetto boys, You have to you have

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Speaker 2: or else is somebody to resell you something you already

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Speaker 2: did and give it a new name. You know, rock

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Speaker 2: no disrespect to Elvis.

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't no chuck very little rich, was it.

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Speaker 1: Ho Oh that's my guy, man. I mean we hear this.

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Speaker 1: He might be coming out with music. Yeah, talk talk

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Speaker 1: Bleak said. Man, he that ain't where his head is

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Speaker 1: right now. He you know he ain't he he he

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Speaker 1: ain't in that mindset. He's a business man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's where that's where his heads at. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think when you're an artist, I

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Speaker 2: He is mumbling to myself. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think he ever stops. Think old got

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And there's an art to

436
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,960
Speaker 2: business like Matt. I remember, So we got Mayor Bill

437
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,399
Speaker 2: Camberl in Atlanta, black mayor from the Carolinas. But he

438
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,480
Speaker 2: understands the Atlanta way, the Atlanta way as you create

439
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,000
Speaker 2: opportunity and on the private and equity side for black

440
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 2: business people who are going to do the.

441
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,880
Speaker 3: Job right correct.

442
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,800
Speaker 2: What other city would have told Magic Johnson who had

443
00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,240
Speaker 2: been involved in scandal, you know, with with with acquiring

444
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 2: HIV but then becoming a staunch advocate for everyone being

445
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,680
Speaker 2: tested and all had been had been you know, basically

446
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 2: treated badly towards last days in NBA by all the

447
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,159
Speaker 2: players and stuff.

448
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 3: How they handle him and.

449
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,199
Speaker 2: Ni's Magic at some point had to figure out what

450
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,919
Speaker 2: to do and how to do it, and he figured

451
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,480
Speaker 2: out business brought him, to some degree the same satisfaction

452
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,640
Speaker 2: of his leticism. So exactly so in my mind, jay

453
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 2: Z has made business his art in in some capacity,

454
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 2: so he wants to master that in the same way

455
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 2: he mastered bars and flows. I saw Magic Johnson come

456
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 2: to Atlanta, and I saw Starbucks want want to get

457
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 2: in Southwest Atlanta and they with Magic Johnson. I saw

458
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,920
Speaker 2: TGI Fridays getting Southwest Atlanta with Magic Johnson, AMC Theaters

459
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 2: getting there with Magic Johnson. I saw Maggie Johnson completely

460
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 2: become a businessman by way of doing business in Atlanta

461
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 2: and then coming back thirty years later now to own

462
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 2: Atlanta Life Insurance Company. So for me, I cheer for

463
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 2: Hole in that capacity, because it's not only Whole. Nas

464
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: has learned how to become a business person. Big Boy

465
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 2: has learned how to become a business person. My man

466
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 2: Chamellionaire haslearned how to become a business person. And there's

467
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that because when we lose that element,

468
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,719
Speaker 2: when we lose these people, what real loses people who

469
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 2: will give other people like us an opportunity. So I

470
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 2: cheer for Whole. I would love another Whole album. But

471
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,119
Speaker 2: if you never give me another one, if you just

472
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: give me some guests versus you know, we can leave.

473
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 2: But I would like to see him succeed more, not less.

474
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 2: And I would like to see Kareem succeed. And I

475
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: would like to see Dame succeed and Dn Waugh, you

476
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'd like to see Dallas Austen

477
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 2: and Jermaine Dupree, Brian Michael Copps up keep succeeding because

478
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: if we don't have these men being of sorts, then

479
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: you never get people like me.

480
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a I'm a small business person, you know.

481
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: But I'm invigorated when I see my brothers being huge

482
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: and big. And I know this isn't small business to

483
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 2: some people, but it's small business compared to the billionaires.

484
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: I think, I have a one hundred million dollar company here.

485
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: But what I there to think like that? If it

486
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 2: hadn't been for jam What I there to think like that?

487
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: If it hadn't been for brands like Outcasts? But I

488
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: there to think like that, if it wouldn't have been

489
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 2: for people like Yeasy taken over the world.

490
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 3: What I dare to think?

491
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: So I'm inspired by by that because as I have

492
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: grown into a stronger, more competent rapper, I've also learned

493
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: to do better business. And you know, my businesses are

494
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: small businesses, but the ones I believe in in their

495
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: brands I see growing. I want this to be a

496
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar company. I want Bank Here Seafood

497
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: to be a destination point. I want you to land

498
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,719
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, get off at bank Are Highway, stop by

499
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: the Blue Flame, then.

500
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: Come to Bank Here Seafood. You know, come see us

501
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: man TI.

502
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's known for a minute, that's my brother man,

503
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 1: you and business together. I mean a the side king,

504
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he called himself the king of the South,

505
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: and I can't say that I disagree with him is

506
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: but when you talk Atlanta rappers, you got to mention

507
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: him some shape form of fashion.

508
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

509
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: How did you and t I meet Man KP who's

510
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: a Dundant family member and DJ toom They found the

511
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: kid and they developed them. I mean when I remember

512
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: walking in the General's Club seeing the kids from Cardier frames.

513
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: He used to have a gold tooth pick on and

514
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 2: I never understood how his hat stayed on his head.

515
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, this way like that.

516
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: He was like he was like one of them old

517
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: men in the South who owned the gas station. They

518
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: might call player, you know, they see the player man.

519
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: But he was such a player. He was such a

520
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: player man at a young age. He was I'm five

521
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: years old and tips so if he's nineteen or twenty four.

522
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: But such a player man, so confident, you.

523
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: Know he was.

524
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: He reminded me of my cousin Jimmy, you know, my

525
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: cousin man and I just I knew I rapped though,

526
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: so I never was intimidated. So when we would get

527
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: in rooms together, people asked us to do versus rap.

528
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: Whatever I was it's it's like watching It's like watching

529
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: on the football field your boy get it off. Oh Man,

530
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: your boy might play defense, but he got it off off.

531
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 3: Man. I got to get it off. I got to

532
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 3: get it off. Now.

533
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: I just see my dog do it. And that's how

534
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: I feel around him and in Drove particular. Like when

535
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: you when you talk about the West Side, Man, you're

536
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: talking about from patterns and flows. Who are people emulating you?

537
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: Talking about Tip? You're talking about Drop in terms of

538
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: just lyricism. Man. So I really, I really am grateful

539
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: to be his brother and his friend in business, in

540
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: music and beyond, because I truly love him as though

541
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: we blood.

542
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: You drop your debut album the same day fifty drop

543
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: Get Richard, I try.

544
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: And we know what that.

545
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: NFL philth wore everybody asked that year. Man, he was

546
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: an assie. I got a lot of love for philth Man.

547
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: I tell him every time I see him. He let

548
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: me when I was when I was on, when I

549
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: was on the down, Phil, I think I made maybe

550
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: ten grand for a show I had to go to Europe.

551
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: Yale was always kind to me, shouts out the bucket

552
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: and banks too, but Phil let me open for a

553
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: show and I made some money. I really appreciate him

554
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: because I really need at the time. But let me

555
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: tell you, some.

556
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: Boy, you kick there everybody ass oh man, you worked

557
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: so much ass.

558
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: I just remember looking at the bill board chargers, looking

559
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: at myself, fall like damn. And every week you sell

560
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: a quarter me boom boom boom. But what I really

561
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: love about it is I still went gold. Yeah, and

562
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: I was proud for that. But I learned to don't

563
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: confine yourself to gold and platinum. Don't confine yourself to

564
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: what's good enough.

565
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: Because that's what I was gonna ask. I was asking,

566
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: why didn't you get discurveed? You could like Max Man,

567
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: I get the man that came out, he jumped out

568
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: the box dead ten diamond.

569
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 3: Here I am. I'm gold, which is good.

570
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: But that is because because you got drafted one hundred

571
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 2: and ninety two in the seventh round yep. And you're

572
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame yep. And you gotta ring ye. Yeah,

573
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: that's why, because you don't. Because all I need is

574
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: the opportunity. You went to Savannah State, correct, you didn't

575
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: go to Uga. No, you know, you didn't go to Georgia.

576
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 4: Town.

577
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: You went to Savannah, State, you go to Bama. You

578
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: know Tennessee, you went, you went to state.

579
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: So another word, you like, you know what, I'm not

580
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: judging my success by somebody else's.

581
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm Michael.

582
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm here, you baby, y'all let me in.

583
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick around for a while. See when y'all

584
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: ask God for a law for a long career, I

585
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: didn't understand the perils that came with it. I just

586
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: know I asked Lord, I said, I want a career

587
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 2: like bun Bee. I want a career like scar Pace.

588
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: But I didn't understand that I'm twenty year career. You're

589
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 2: gonna takes up. She's gonna takes some down.

590
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: You know.

591
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that the highs and lows are you

592
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: gonna learn as much in the valley as you enjoy

593
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: seeing the peak.

594
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 3: So I'm thankful.

595
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm thankful to still be in a room and half

596
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: fifty cent acknowledge me, and I acknowledge him and me again,

597
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: say hey, man, thank you for that show years ago.

598
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: You don't know it kept me going another couple of months.

599
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. I'm thankful to watch you because

600
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: his first attempts at doing femine television didn't just take

601
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: right off.

602
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: But I saw him not quit. So I learned from him,

603
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: you know as much.

604
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: And I'm just a student man, And I'm appreciator of

605
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, even people who I might not agree with,

606
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: might not agree with me.

607
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: I still appreciate you. I still learn from you.

608
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: But fifth Man that year, I just gotta say you,

609
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: no doubt you wood as Bob Man and shouts out

610
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: to you, Dre and m you know independent. Oh, I

611
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: got to get shots to the games. Yeah, I forgot

612
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 2: to mentioned that game was early in my career. Man,

613
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: he's on the West Coast. Game is one of the

614
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: best rappers ever and he I'll never forget. They had

615
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: Vibe Magazine had us had us do like a call

616
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: one of your homeboys, who wrap up and tell them

617
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: you just got a flat tire and our c I said, guy, hey, man,

618
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: I might hear such such. I'm in an so I

619
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: forgot what street, neighborhood? I said, man, I said, man up.

620
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: He was on his way to buy Bentley. He told

621
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: whoever saying, hey, man, stop the car. He said, kill

622
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: don't get out the car. Man turned around for the

623
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: come get you now. I said, no, no, we just joked.

624
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: We just me. But I got to appreciate the game too,

625
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: as it was as a member of Geniun that he

626
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: was definitely a friend and just.

627
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: Wondered the raw geniun It just had a trump tight crew. Man.

628
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: So shouts out major versus independent. Yeah, I hear Stephanie Miller.

629
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: I think she's going on tour with Patti LaBelle Shaka

630
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: cont somebody saw that show.

631
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: They told me about it, and they.

632
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: Asked Stephanie Mills and she said, she said, if I know,

633
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: if I knew then what I know now, I would

634
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: do it independently. She said, because basically a major record

635
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: company their marketing. Yeah, and but I know what I'm worth.

636
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: I know what they want to sail. And if I

637
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: sell this many, I get that. If I sell that many,

638
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: I get this. Breakdown. You've been at this thing three decades. Yeah,

639
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: break it down. Major record label independent pros cons for both.

640
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean a major label, man, you know, a

641
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: major engine yep, and they really believe in you're gonna

642
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: want a major way. But man, I don't. I'm in

643
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't be Damn if I'm playing for

644
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: the New York Times, so the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm

645
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL, so I have had a better relationship

646
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: working as an indie with a with a with a

647
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: smaller indie that's backed by Major and Lama Vista, being

648
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: able to work with Lama Vista, who's you know, parented

649
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: by Concord, Now that I understand fully who I am,

650
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: Now that me and will have been through the pure

651
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: independence of SMC, now that I turned down a major

652
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: and Virgin with Jamaine was the head over there, and

653
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: I've been on a major with Columbia and Electure before.

654
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: I think I found a middle ground in where I'm

655
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: independent enough to know when I need some major help.

656
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: Right, you know?

657
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: Okay, So, and I think that that really is it,

658
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: because if you can go through the roof, you're gonna

659
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: need some extra fuel on that fire, and that's what

660
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: they help you.

661
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with that.

662
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: But Andy Young said to me, I don't understand why

663
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 2: you young guys don't just buy a house you can afford,

664
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: get a couple of nice cars, cause I know you

665
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: like nice cars, and just be satisfied beyond major independent.

666
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: One of the best things you could do now I've

667
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: encouraged a lot of artists and athletes to do. This

668
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: is find you a house in the South. Find you

669
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: a house in Atlanta, Savannah, Nashville, Chattanooga, Charlotte. Find you

670
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: a house sen your mama, your baby, mama, whoever there,

671
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: and buy it out right. And you don't need every car.

672
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: Get you a couple you want some fans. Get you

673
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: a couple of German cars or whatever. Get your pickup truck,

674
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: get you one German car, and just stack everything for

675
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: the first five, four or five years. Put your money

676
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: into S and P's five hundreds. Don't try to get

677
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: to somebody.

678
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: When you grew up like we grew up.

679
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: Man, all we dreamed, that's my car. I dreamed, but

680
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: having that when I saw a Miami advice, Yes, but

681
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: I saw them where besides you and I saw role man,

682
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: But yes, we gotta have.

683
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: You gotta do what Get you one roles? You don't

684
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: need both, mate, So your boy got the Karrari, you

685
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: got the Porsche. Gets you gotta do. Hey, man, I

686
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: can drive your all today. Ye let me hold that.

687
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: Porch of dog. I don't nobody know. The girls at

688
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: the club ain't gonna know.

689
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: So I'm just here to say, man, I'm here to say, man,

690
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta stay tuck me and and tight man.

691
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: The most successful drug dealers I saw live like working dudes.

692
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: The most successful ones I saw the ones that managed

693
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: to escape the game like you look at it. You

694
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: look got out of my neighborhood and making a guy

695
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: like a guy like my man Rod. If Rod, if

696
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: you didn't catch Rod four seven o'clock after seven, you

697
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't catch him because he had a job, never went

698
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: to jail, came pilled out, ended up doing well for himself,

699
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: got out the game either.

700
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: But man did he He lived like a regular guy.

701
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: If you manage living modeshly for long enough, man, you're

702
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: gonna have an abundance. So again, if you and your homeboys,

703
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: if you eighteen right, you ain't got a bunch, But

704
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: you and three of your cousins, y'all go to trade school.

705
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: Want to learn carpentry one or flooring one? Learn everybody

706
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: learn something.

707
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: Go buy y'all a quadry place together, live in one

708
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: or two of them, and rent the other two out,

709
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: and then repeat process to you by another and another

710
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: and another. Then you can do it instead of saying, well,

711
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: I got a call, well, man, shit, I bother shavel

712
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: my brother Bob, what's name? If I want to drive

713
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: us cutters, I just get my brother cother. Right, we

714
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: have to start doing these little tricks because we talk

715
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: about immigrants doing these tricks. Now, your grandparents did these tricks.

716
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: My big Mama and Big Daddy lived on land. My

717
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: big Daddy's sister t Sweet lived at the top of

718
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: their land in the house. In the next five years,

719
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a compound, but me and all my

720
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: sisters got houses on the same compound. We're not gonna

721
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: sell the houses we got. Those houses gonna go to

722
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: my nieces, my nephews, somebody. They're gonna be in a

723
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: trust so they can't wake up and do no stupid

724
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: shit like sell them one day.

725
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: But that's what you do.

726
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: That's what you do, repeat what made people in your

727
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: family successful. Everybody got the one conservative bad auntie, your

728
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: uncle who do it the right way. So that's who

729
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: we need to start emulating. I love Miami advice, but

730
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: that one done. Johnson Ferrara, you just got to drive.

731
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: Acting.

732
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: It seems to be you've been bit by the acting bug. Now, yeah,

733
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean I saw your I mean I saw my

734
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: favorite sho Ozark.

735
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

736
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Man man man, oh man man. And you've been you're

737
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: in this movie now with the series with Ethan Hawk. Yeah,

738
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: when did you get the acting bug? I mean, I've

739
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: been acting out my whole life, you know, acting my

740
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: way out a few tickets. I act like I wanted

741
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: that woman house she put that pistol a mon. But

742
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: but it's just it's just creative, man, It's just my imagination.

743
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: I remember acting like Miami Vice sayings. When I was

744
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: a kid, Lord Lenny I met on a plane. She

745
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: used to be on a show called A Big c

746
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: where she put a woman who was dying of cancer

747
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: and her what her last age like. It was a

748
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: very uplifting show.

749
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: I met her.

750
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: My wife says, I do this all the time. I

751
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: introduced myself to be on the plane. I learned that

752
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: when I flew to Daytona. When I was a kid,

753
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: you you sit down and you say, you know, and

754
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: it used to be in the plane, you didn't put

755
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: your ugge right above you. You put your luggage across

756
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: from so you can see your leg. So I still

757
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: do that and then I introduced myself. Hey Michael, I said, hey, Loo,

758
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: I watched your show, My wife loves and whatnot, and

759
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: we just kept in contact. So she's always been an

760
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: encourager of Omar Dorsey, friend of mine, has always been

761
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: an encourager of Ethan. When I met him on Bill

762
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: Marshaw called me out to do Good Lord Burgh just

763
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: a big part. But he saw something in me that

764
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: I wanted y'all wanted to kind of act you you know,

765
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: you figure out whatever you knw because as an artist

766
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: you're compelled to do other things.

767
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: But Sterling, who.

768
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: Wrote the show, who wrote Reservation Dogs and just as

769
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: a brilliant writer, and he and Ethan thought I might

770
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: be good for this part.

771
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah no, my reservoir Reservation.

772
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: Reservation Dogs was a series about kids who are growing

773
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: up on Indian reservation. Reservoir Dogs was written by Tarantina,

774
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: who's a favorite director.

775
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: Of My Hateful Ladies, one of the most amazing movies ever.

776
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: But they had collaborated on a episode and they thought

777
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: I'd be perfect to pay play this character. And I

778
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: was nervous as shit. Ethan gave me one of them

779
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: pep talks, like, hey man, you're made for this, buddy.

780
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: You know, he gave me on you know, your white

781
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: friend Pep. So hey, buddy, what do you mean You're

782
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: made for this? And and I tried out and I

783
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: and I got the part, and then I got called

784
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: backs say you're gonna be in a few more episodes.

785
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: And the next thing, you know, oh shit, I'm really acting.

786
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: And acting is about using the live imagination to tell

787
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: a grander truth.

788
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: And I think I'm I think I'm kind of made

789
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: for that.

790
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: You've been at this speaking about politics and race and understanding,

791
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: and I think Lyndon Johnson had a quote sixty years ago. Yeah,

792
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: he said, if you can convince the lord's white man,

793
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: that's better than the best colored man. He won't notice

794
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: you're picking his pocket. He said, if you give him

795
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: somebody to look down on, he'll empty his pockets for you.

796
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: There you go.

797
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: At the time that doctor King was in Mississippi trying

798
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: to help workers organize, the clan was at its height

799
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: on the fight against blacks having an ability to organize

800
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: and be on jobs with them. The lowest paid white

801
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: man in the country was in Mississippi. When me and

802
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders went to Alabama, a few years ago to

803
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: try to help them unionizing Amazon. You know, you can

804
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: just know Alabama for as far as it could be,

805
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: it isn't as far as it could be, because there's

806
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: something that holding it down. I just want to say

807
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: to my brothers and sisters in the South, for the

808
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: working class, doesn't matter to me which color you are.

809
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me who you like in terms

810
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: of a national figure speaking on social issues. I need

811
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: you to understand that the same people that invented the

812
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: work invented the word cracker, and they meant for you

813
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: and crackers to stay on the bottom. Because there's a

814
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: rich class in the South. That's what they call a

815
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: planner class, a master class of people. And they own

816
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: Georgia and Tennessee and the Caroll Miles, Florida, the Mississippi

817
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: all up through Arkansas. They own it and they rule

818
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: it with an iron fist. And if we don't start

819
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: to understand more like Fred Hampton understood, that we truly

820
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: need a rainbow coalition of workers pushing forward in this

821
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: country on each other's behalf, then we're gonna stay separate,

822
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna stay unequal, and we're all going to stay without.

823
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: How have they been able to convince.

824
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: One group to vote against their own best interests and

825
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: to look down on the other group when you're in

826
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: the same boat.

827
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: Well, the Oligards have always done it because because you

828
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: get the thinking that the trailer parks different from projects.

829
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: Now it's both set aside for people poor. That's it.

830
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: We have to understand that that at some point, race

831
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: is just an economic tool used under this particular system capitalism,

832
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: and keep us in fighting so that we never get

833
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: greater gains. I believe there's a more compassionate versus capitalism.

834
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: I believe that there's a version where free trading labor

835
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: will work, where a working man can grow his own

836
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: food and sell his food to his neighbor, and that's

837
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: not outlaw by the state. Again, I believe in being

838
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: able to bring your own whiskey. I don't think you

839
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: should have to have a tax downpoint in whiskey. So

840
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: when I when I hear about somebody like Popeye Sudden,

841
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: you know it was a white man who was a

842
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: bootlegger of the Tennessee. Rather than serve federal time, he

843
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: killed hisself. He said, I'm not gonna do it. I'm

844
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: not gonna bound to these oliguards, he becomes a hero

845
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: of mine and the same way that John Brown's a

846
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: hero of mine. So for me, I think that we

847
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: need to look outside of our own culture, our own race,

848
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: our own class for other people that we are mayer

849
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: and that we agreeing with too, because that way, you know,

850
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: the possibility of better is in other people as well.

851
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: And you start to form union, you start to form collaboration,

852
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: You start to form coalitions in which the best.

853
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: Interests of everyone is served.

854
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: And I believe, in particular and the working class in

855
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: the South, that we have a duty and an obligation

856
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: to just say we work them fields, to have an

857
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: opportunity to work other things that will work better.

858
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: For all of us.

859
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: Did you always feel like this because you caught a

860
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of criticism because you went and sat down with

861
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: a deal.

862
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I sat down with Kemp, govern the

863
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: camp govern to Kemp. Yeah, and you got a lot

864
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: of black man Mike. Why you sitting down with him

865
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: because he's my governor? And you say, look, I'm gonna.

866
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Sit down with demand because it might be an opportunity

867
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: for our and help people.

868
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: That look like me.

869
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, And when you see when he passed them.

870
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: When he rein sayd the Hope Scholarship, he added trades

871
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: to it too. Yeah, the Hope Scholarship used to exclusively

872
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: be for in a lection. You know, if you go

873
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: into college New yorgo's family of state on the UGAS,

874
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: or you go to Hope Scholarship. But our boys and

875
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: girls who wanted to go to trade school were left out.

876
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: He added that, well, I was an asshole about trades.

877
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: I was picking on program. He put me in touch

878
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: with the head of Trades. I talked to him, but

879
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: I still call him back.

880
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: Governor.

881
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: I think we need to do this. So if you

882
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: are politically unengaged, you are a fool. I'm gonna just

883
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: tell you that no matter who wins, you know, I

884
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: can no matter who I campaign for. The day after,

885
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna congratulate the winner and say, okay, we're gonna

886
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: do to make Georgia bella state.

887
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: How can I help you?

888
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 2: You know, So, no matter who ends up being governor,

889
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: if it's keisham Land's Bottoms, if it's Michael Thurman, if

890
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: it's one of the people who want from the other side,

891
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: I have to I'm required to like my grandmother said,

892
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: you do this because it's what you're supposed to do.

893
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: You know, you're supposed to have a political voice you support,

894
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: whether it's your city council, whether it's your county commissioner,

895
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: whether it's your mayor, whether your governor, your congressman and senators.

896
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: You better make sure you do that because of what

897
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to be is without voice.

898
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: So a lot of people that criticize me, they aren't

899
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: even Georgia's If you're on a Georgia I'm not even

900
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: word about that.

901
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: Ye, yes, your vote.

902
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: You're thinking about you a minority where you live at Yeah, listen,

903
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: no goddamn minority. And we make up thirty five percent

904
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: of the state in Georgia, we may go just under

905
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: fifty percent of Atlanta. What am I gonna listen to?

906
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: You for not gonna listen? You don't even know what

907
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: it means like to be the majority. You don't know

908
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: what it is to see a black city council. You

909
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: don't know what it is to only have known black mirrors.

910
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: You got so goddamn happy by Obama you could a

911
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: pee yourself. I ain't never known but nothing but black leadership.

912
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: That's it my God and the good luck to get

913
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: another way. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. So I don't

914
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't have the capacity to tolerate some of the

915
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: shit y'all be talking. Y'all don't know what y'all talking about.

916
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: Again.

917
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: All my heroes and enemies look like me. All my

918
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: heroes and enemies when I was growing up looked like

919
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: And I grew up in all black neighborhood. My neighborhood

920
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: wasn't a form of fair street bottom of a bottom

921
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: with your real neighborhoods in Atlanta.

922
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up in the bluff.

923
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: I ended up buying apartments in the bluff as a

924
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: buff And the book's only two miles from the doll

925
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: as a bluff is changing, and I'm a part of

926
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: that change. I grew up in the car your heights.

927
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: I grew up in these way of these working class people,

928
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: nine hundred square foot houses. Grew up white with the Russells,

929
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: who were the biggest black developers in the nation at

930
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: the time. That's who I grew up with. I grew

931
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: up with the people that built the fod in the

932
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: count Staium, in the Dome. So Nigga can't tell me

933
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: nothing impossible because I could ride my bike three streets

934
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 2: back and see a black house with an indoor pool,

935
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: tennis court, and basketball court. So the fuck you're gonna

936
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: tell me, nigga, you're talking about your imagination. I'm talking

937
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: about some shit I've seen for real.

938
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

939
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: So I don't listen to y'all negroes. Just know when

940
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: you write that kind of shit, I giggle. I roll

941
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: over my big old bed, my leven thousand dollar bed.

942
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: You know you know that my wife got for foth

943
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: the house dollars. You know what I'm saying. I wake

944
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: up and I yawned. Look y'all nigga like me. Y'all

945
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: nigga know y'all talk about because you ain't never seen nothing.

946
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: That's why you tend the only think it's in impossibility.

947
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: It can't possibly happen because you've never seen it. Your

948
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: grandfather didn't tell you about Jack Johnson, so you don't know.

949
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 2: You could wook, no ass, You don't know who Tiger

950
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: Flowers is. Tiger Flowers middleweight champion. They called him the

951
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: Deacon out of Georgia all the match and right there

952
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: in Dixie Hills. So when you walk by the fire station,

953
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: you get to read about this man. You never start

954
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: have to read Nigga. You don't know what you're talking about.

955
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: I read The Wretched Ard, I read Farst Not I've read.

956
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: I read all these books. But I also read Watch

957
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: Your White Guys Have All the Fun. I've also read

958
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: some Tomasoula, also read some Walt Williams. So I read

959
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: enough to take a little from here, to take a

960
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: little from there, and to form my own. If you

961
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: only read un instructed by you read, you're just a clone.

962
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: You know I read that Nigga book. He read that book.

963
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: He You never called a bunch of other people to

964
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: tell me what I can't do. Shut up, I'm out

965
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: here doing it, you, professor, Professor, what they say?

966
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: They say?

967
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: They say those who can do do, those who can

968
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: do can't teach, and those who can't and don't know

969
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: how to teach teachers.

970
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: Talk to me about d E. I what that?

971
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Because you know I've heard a lot of versus include yes.

972
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you can get it, get it.

973
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: But if you can't, now just understand you can't and

974
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: make a way. I think d I is best served

975
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: when politically we put the pressure there federal grants and

976
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: laws that should be given to you that aren't giving

977
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: you right now. They don't have nothing to do with

978
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: just DI programs because let's say DI programs work for

979
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: white women too. They've worked for immigrant populations. They got

980
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: a chance to jump ahead of you, and things of

981
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: that nature. But my thing is whatever you can make

982
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: work work. So if di's working, work it. But if

983
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: it ain't working, got to find something else to work,

984
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: but work it. What works better than DEI is having

985
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: politicians that understand the need for it. George Wallace was

986
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: a white politician. George Wallers was a man who essentially

987
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: said segregation now forever. George Wallace got shot, and then

988
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: getting shot he saw Jesus. He must have saw Jesus

989
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: was black, because after that his administration was black than

990
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: any other administration before after So you didn't have to

991
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: tell him about DI because he all of a sudden

992
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: understood it once being shot. Oh shit, I need to

993
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: change my ways and models and thinking. Black people coming

994
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: out of slavery with the most skilled workforce in this nation,

995
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: and they understood capitalism. They understood business in the way

996
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: that other people didn't. If they didn't, they wouldn't have

997
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: been able to build things like the Landlife Insurance Company

998
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: if they didn't. The blacksmith when the many ever save

999
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: the master, Well a boss, he ain't call a master

1000
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: no more. Well a boss, you know I can do

1001
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: the work you're gonna cast. Now, we understood capitalism when

1002
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: we were still slaves. So I used to wonder how

1003
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: when they would say, well, how does a family buy

1004
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: their freedom? Well, they rented their own self out on Fridays,

1005
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean on Sundays. Because every every landowner wasn't a

1006
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: slave owner. You had some people that was just middle

1007
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: class with working class that were poor class. They didn't

1008
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: have the ability to have an extra seven hands. So

1009
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: those people would then say, hey, if your god, that

1010
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: should work for me on Sunday. I need you on Sunday.

1011
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: You go negotiate a price. Then you pay your mass

1012
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: out sixty and you keep it forty percent. You save

1013
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: until you bought your own freedom, about your wife feeding,

1014
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: about youldren free. So it's not like you don't understand capitalism,

1015
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: but the question becomes how you gonna make it work

1016
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: for you? How are you gonna make sure that the

1017
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: gas stations you go to are owned by you. How

1018
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: are you gonna make sure that the dollar is turning

1019
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: in your community beyond your church?

1020
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: You've done it before.

1021
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't have all the answers, but I do know

1022
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: that the guy who does my age back lives in

1023
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: the same neighborhood as TI.

1024
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: You know. I do know that.

1025
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: I know he made makes as much money doing HPACT

1026
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: as we make singing and god damn dancing. And we

1027
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to use our minds in this country

1028
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: to advance ourselves in a way that other black folks

1029
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: globally are not.

1030
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: And we should take advantage of that.

1031
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: And now the companies that don't want to play their

1032
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: punish they ass punish their ass by not supporting them.

1033
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: I like what Jamal Brin is done, right or wrong,

1034
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: showing target, Hey man, I can knock you down a quarter.

1035
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: I like what t I did with Gucci when Gucci,

1036
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: When t I said, hey man, we're gonna knock Gucca

1037
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: down a quarter, they were Now Gucci was smart. They

1038
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: when they got some moll Sandlers, they say, hey, somem all,

1039
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: we need you, We need you in that pretty hair cut,

1040
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: and your mama some person, we need some money. But

1041
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: t I showed they ass he bumped their ass down

1042
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: and they had to. They had to, they had to haze,

1043
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: they had to tighten up. So it ain't nothing wrong

1044
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: with showing companies they have to tighten up, you know,

1045
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: ain't nothing wrong with that.

1046
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Freedom of speech. We saw what happened with Jimmy Kimmel.

1047
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

1048
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't agree with the marks that he

1049
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: made about Charlie Kirk who tragically lost his life at

1050
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: a rally in Utah, and they took him off there. Yeah,

1051
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest Sinclear say we're not

1052
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: going to put him back on, but ABC Disney has

1053
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: reinstated him.

1054
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah he should be.

1055
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: Where are we headed with this, Mike A scary place

1056
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: freedom of speech If you don't believe in freedom of

1057
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: speech for those who vehemently disagree with you don't believe

1058
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: in freedom of speech. And what scared me most about

1059
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: freedom of speech? I think Noam Chompsky said that what

1060
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: scares me most about freedom of speech is everybody I

1061
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: only want it for their side, yes, and I'm pro

1062
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: freedom of speech for all sides.

1063
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Eric Nilsen wrote a book called rap on trial. I

1064
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: wrote the four word for it.

1065
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: But we're figuring out maybe putting together two of some sorts,

1066
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: because we have to get back in this country to

1067
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: having hard conversations with one another, and that requires freedom

1068
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: of speech. It requires that that I'm going to listen

1069
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: to something I may not like, that will make me uncomfortable,

1070
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: but then listening to that I'm going to learn or

1071
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: a part of wisdom or that goes both ways. We

1072
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: have reciprocity, but that's what makes this republic different. That's

1073
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: what makes this republic great. Hey man, I got no

1074
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: problems against Europe. They got some cool museums and old

1075
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: shit over there. They got some nice food a couple places.

1076
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: But I do not like hate speech laws in the

1077
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: United Kingdom. Like how you gonna give me a hate

1078
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: speech law. You ain't gave me my artifaction after back

1079
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: yet shit you gonna make it so I can't even

1080
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: say I want my shit back.

1081
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1082
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: So I would warn Americans against any restrictions on your

1083
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: First Amendment because that restricts you from protesting police officers.

1084
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: That restricts you from you know, congregating religiously. It restricts

1085
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: you from policing and talking down on politicians you may

1086
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: not agree with.

1087
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: It restricts you from public assembly. So I'm gonna just

1088
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: say I'd rather have the uncomfortable conversations where we disagree.

1089
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: That's it.

1090
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: That's it, James Baldwin say, we can disagree and still

1091
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: love you. As long as your disagreement isn't draped. Then

1092
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: my lack of humanity.

1093
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: Man, come on, man, that's him. That's him, Man gimes, Man,

1094
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: that man.

1095
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean some of the stuff that he said you

1096
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: And like, you know, when our grandparents used to talk

1097
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: to might, I didn't know at the time what they

1098
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: would actually say. It was when I got much older,

1099
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: because they talked in parable, they talked and phrases. They

1100
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: didn't come out and say, don't do this.

1101
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1102
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: My grandfather used to say, boy, don't make me cheat

1103
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: this food twice. Yeah, like you got it more than that.

1104
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: But he was saying, don't make him repeat himself asolutely. Absolutely,

1105
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: because they wanted to raise thinkers. They wanted you to

1106
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: understand and this thing that rest in between your ears

1107
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: is a tool for your use, not be used by

1108
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna used by anxiety I'm gonna used by pressure.

1109
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna used byle thinking. Use this tool to look

1110
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: at the problem and solve the problem. And once I've

1111
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: solved the problem once, I don't need to keep revisiting

1112
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: the problem trying to save it.

1113
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: Twice.

1114
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: My grandfather, man I'm talking about. He was telling me,

1115
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: what what is they learning you in school? And what

1116
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: I realized is, over the last sixty years, public schools

1117
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: hadn't learned us as much as we should learn it

1118
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: because they're not truly trying to raise thinkers. They're trying

1119
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: to raise people that go along with the program. You

1120
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: got people now that to tell you what you can

1121
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: and can't say. And they've never read the Bill of Rights,

1122
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: they've never read the United States Constitution. Beautiful document in

1123
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: its aspiration, doesn't mean you've always lived up to it,

1124
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: but in its aspiration, you know.

1125
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: There's a there's a brother, man. Brother ain't Chad. I

1126
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: like your brother. He's a plumber. I like him.

1127
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: He's a tradesman, but he's an intellectual. But this brother's

1128
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: been going on Taylor rant about doctor King. He's probably

1129
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: gonna put this up on the clip, and I hope

1130
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: you do. But I'm saying it's unfair. I support your

1131
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: right to say anything you want to say. He's very

1132
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: much against Marxism and communism, but he's taking some low

1133
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: blows to me and talking about doctor King, and I say,

1134
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: I wonder who's funding my brother.

1135
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: He's a black man.

1136
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because you can

1137
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: talk about doctor King being an alleged perverder, having orgies,

1138
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: things of that nature, having multiple women, but we are

1139
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: talking about our founding fathers is sex traffickers. Benjamin Franks

1140
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: would had a thirteen year old girl, black girl. Oh

1141
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: they were in love, No, they weren't. He was sexually

1142
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: assaulting that girl. She was his property. George Washington owned

1143
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: three hundred human beings, and I'm sure took advantage. I

1144
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: sit here right now as a product of Crawford Long's family.

1145
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Someone in Crawford Long's family had sex with someone that

1146
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: was owned or enslave, which led to the Long family

1147
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: out of North Georgia. Michael Renders mother's maternal family. And

1148
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm related to Crawford Law, the man who had been

1149
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: in anesthesia for the battlefield for Civil War.

1150
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: I'm here because of a rape.

1151
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: And if you're going to criticize doctor King, and you

1152
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: don't find time to criticize the so many white men

1153
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: that founded our country. Then that tells me that somebody's

1154
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: paying you to do what you're doing. And although I

1155
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: support your ability or your rights to do that, I'm

1156
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: saying that we got to play the gang Thaul Bubba,

1157
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: we got to play the gang fail, and we got

1158
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: to say Oftentimes great men fall short of the glory

1159
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: of God, but that don't mean they can't be redeemed,

1160
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: and that does not mean that dream is in a

1161
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: redeeming thing. Because I didn't know doctor King, but I

1162
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: knew everybody who knew him. I knew Jseah Williams, I

1163
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: know Andy Young, I knew Joseph Loudy, I knew James Orange.

1164
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: And what I know of these men are stowing in

1165
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: terms of the way they live, that they like and

1166
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: as young men who might who knows how wild they

1167
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: may have been, but I know that they've got older.

1168
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: The wisdom that they gave us as young men, and

1169
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: the wisdom that they gave us now is priceless. So

1170
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: as a man, I'm gonna fall short and I'm gonna

1171
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: make some mistakes. My wife might show up at three

1172
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: fifty seven one day. But I guarantee you out. I

1173
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: guarantee you that I talked mon T Debra. I've tied up,

1174
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I just want to

1175
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: encourage us to that while we are defending that perst Amendment.

1176
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: So let's make sure that we're looking at the rules

1177
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: fair for everyone. What are some of the changes I'm

1178
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: gonna make you president? You President of the United States.

1179
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you you got four years. Yeah, what

1180
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: you're gonna do. Create a reparations plan that's going to

1181
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: get African Americans proper education and trades and intellectual education.

1182
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: It's going to get African Americans proper financial education, is

1183
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: going to give them land grants and the ability to

1184
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: own the land of the ancestors Alan, particularly in the Southeast.

1185
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: Fifty four percent of African Americans living in the Southeast.

1186
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 2: I think that fifty four percent of the investment should

1187
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 2: be there. I think that there should be a heavy

1188
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 2: investment in terms of making sure that that class people

1189
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: was brought up. Because when African American economy and the

1190
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: community is doing better, this whole country does better. I

1191
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: would make a pathway toward legal citizenship easier. I would

1192
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: create bilingual classes very early so that we can communicate

1193
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: to one another. I would return trades to high schools

1194
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: on the federal level would support that. I would guarantee

1195
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: trades programs and high schools. I also would guarantee a

1196
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: minority businesses construction like the Ile Construction company down in Georgia,

1197
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: that they can get more federal grants. The constructs coming

1198
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: I'm telling me about. They are the ones who build

1199
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 2: all the furniture in the Delta Vip Lounges Black Company.

1200
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: I would make sure that we have a vested interest.

1201
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: I would make sure that public school returns to the

1202
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: greatness of what public schools was in the thirties, fours

1203
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 2: and fifties, meaning physical education is important, artistic and music

1204
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: education important, and you're reading, writing and arithmetic is important.

1205
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: I try to say, why were we so.

1206
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: Effective in public education even all through college in the

1207
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: fifties and sixties, and where did we feel off from.

1208
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: I would take debt out of college. I would forgive

1209
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: all college debt. I would make state schools we're open

1210
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: to take kids again. I would start to support older

1211
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: people in a way that they would be engaged I

1212
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: would make the retirement age earlier instead of later, and

1213
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: those that did have that that didn't have the option

1214
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: of retiring, I would give them some type of government

1215
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: sumsidize job where they can help, whether it be voting

1216
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: booths or librarians or something. So those are some of

1217
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: the things I do because I bel think when you

1218
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: have a society that can take care of themselves, that

1219
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: can make money in turn a dollar, it creates a

1220
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: more effective society than not.

1221
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: Wow upbringing your mom mad you at sixteen? Yeah, he

1222
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: was raised by your grandparents. What talk to me about this?

1223
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean you've heard different like women can raise men,

1224
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: but they need to What is it? Where are you

1225
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: on this black women raising black boys?

1226
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: Man? I'm gonna say it takes a village. I like

1227
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: the village Concett.

1228
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like everybody was your parent got the missofee

1229
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: you might lay it down the street.

1230
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: If you lock it up. I'm gonna tell you. I'm

1231
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: gonna tell you, hey, boy boy, Yes, ma'am, where are

1232
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: you going? The candid lady?

1233
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Your mamma know where you're going? Yes, ma'am. Hold on,

1234
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: She'll go in another room and call Maddy Bedding. This boy,

1235
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: you had a fat one. He going down there to

1236
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: the candy that you tell me.

1237
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: To eat some candy.

1238
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well I guess you can gone. Now why you're gone,

1239
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: make sure you bring me. And I'm just like, like, damn,

1240
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: it's out there. You could have just asked me to break.

1241
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1242
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: So it's like it's I believe in the bulldage concept.

1243
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: I remember man Denise getting on me so bad one time,

1244
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: and she said, I'm sorry. You know, Denise is my mommy,

1245
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: I said. She said, I'm sorry, I gotta be so

1246
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: hard on you, but you the only son I got.

1247
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't get a second chance.

1248
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1249
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: My grandmother told Shade one time. She said, she said,

1250
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: she said he was so bad. She said, I hate

1251
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: I had to beat him so much, but he was

1252
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: so bad. And what she really means, I was adventurous,

1253
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: I was curious. I was terrible at times, you know,

1254
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: but she knew that if I didn't part a certain

1255
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: amount of discipline on this boy, he was gonna go.

1256
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

1257
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: My grandfather only spanked me once. He ain't me cried

1258
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: because he and my grandfather I didn't expect hi from

1259
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: my guy man, but he was so loving, and I

1260
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: realized him not having a father, having to drop out

1261
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: of school in the third grade, having to work on

1262
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: a saw meal at nine years old to support his

1263
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: sisters and his mother. He understood how to be a

1264
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: father because he had been robbed at that opportunity in himself.

1265
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: So he was the best to me and my sisters.

1266
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: I come in the bedroom sometimes and because my grandfather was,

1267
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, yelling at the curly hell.

1268
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 3: My sisters have a wrest in his hair.

1269
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: He's just sitting down the bed, looking at the braves game,

1270
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: letting him do whatever they want to do. Because he

1271
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: understood that this is bigger than how I'm perceived, and

1272
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: you know anybody. So when it came time for me

1273
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: to have to put all my sister prom dressed while

1274
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 2: my grandma hemmed it, I'm standing there. My buddy's looking

1275
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: at the winter laughing at me, I'm like, no, no,

1276
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: call him my sister. I got a hue from my

1277
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: little sister. So for me, I take the village approach,

1278
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: which means mothers, you're going to have to allow your

1279
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: young man if his father is absent, via you all

1280
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: don't get along, or God for be a death or

1281
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: prison or something. You're going to have to allow the

1282
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: other men that you trust, not just a guy you're

1283
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: dating and you might know, but the guy who's dating you,

1284
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: who says I'm in with you now, I'm in with you.

1285
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: To raise this boy, you're gonna have to give him.

1286
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to give him some authority over that boy.

1287
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: If he has an uncle, your brother, you're gonna have

1288
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: to give some authority over that boy. You're gonna have

1289
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: to get that boy and things like Next Level Boys

1290
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Academy that Garrett Davis runs, like Barstrong, which bear from

1291
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: the neighborhood down there in College Park. You're gonna have

1292
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: to give up because mother an it's an authoritary, it's

1293
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: an absolute. I'm your mother. I made the sacrifice for you.

1294
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: God sent you through me, and we're indebted to that

1295
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: until we not, and then we get wild. I had

1296
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: a call from a friend of mine yesterday's like, Mike,

1297
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: I just don't know what to do. These boys that

1298
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: were in regular school and I took him out he

1299
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: an alternate school. Now found out he's not going to

1300
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: alternate school. And she say, I'm fearing the words now,

1301
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: dare I'm just gonna have to put him out. I said, well,

1302
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: let's first sit down, let's have a talk with him.

1303
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: Let's get them with Garrett Davis, let's have a talk

1304
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: with him at next level, and let's just say, hey,

1305
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, as a mom, I'm so frustrated now, I

1306
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with you. I'm about to

1307
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: put you out, and I don't want to put you out.

1308
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: But you're not holding up y'all into the bargain. And see,

1309
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: it used to be understood in our community. Your bargain

1310
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: was that I brought you a diploma. No matter what happened,

1311
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: your sacrifice requires me to bring you a high school diploma.

1312
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure your grandparents said that that was it right right,

1313
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: So for me, we have to start to set these

1314
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: regulations back up. And women, lord knows, I love you

1315
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: to death, but man, if the government divorced you tomorrow,

1316
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have nothing but us. See, because the government

1317
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: could divorce you tomorrow. They've shown you that they fired

1318
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: the ones that worked for them. It won't be so

1319
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: long before they tighten it up on welfare. And I'm

1320
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: not saying every black woman's on welfare, because more white

1321
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: people are on welfare. They call it snap. They give

1322
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: it a whole new cool name and shit right snap

1323
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: of the hill. They changed the name your ass at

1324
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: the EBT cause I see the white man. It's a

1325
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: goddamn close that goddamn EBT on a life.

1326
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, you're getting the NFL too, you know what

1327
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean?

1328
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: So for me, we better start turning inward toward each other,

1329
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: and we better start figuring out how to save these

1330
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: young men from themselves. And that discipline can happen from

1331
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: the village. And I think that we have to return

1332
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: to a village the concept.

1333
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: Mike, when did we When did this happen that we

1334
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: became so envious of one another?

1335
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: Like Mike got it. Man, I don't know why he

1336
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: got I don't know why he bought that car. I

1337
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: don't know why he doing so well?

1338
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: When did that?

1339
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: Mike?

1340
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't like that matter. Maybe maybe I didn't see it.

1341
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: Maybe everybody was like us.

1342
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 1: Nobody had any more than anybody else, so they couldn't

1343
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: say why he had such and such because they didn't

1344
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: have no running water or no indoor plumb.

1345
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 2: You act like the people who owned you. We become

1346
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: too American, you know, American will sell you a dream

1347
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: of rugged individualism and having more, but do hard work.

1348
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: But they don't tell you how much they cooperate behind

1349
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: your back.

1350
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: Them state centers in Georgia cooperated, and that's why they

1351
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: got the financial and physical advantage over so many people

1352
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: poem poor, black and white underneath them. We have to

1353
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: learn that cooperation is gonna be the way again. Envy

1354
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: doesn't bring you.

1355
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: Envy.

1356
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: Comparison is a thief of joy. Oh man, I was

1357
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: so happy we used to be in touch gie the

1358
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: first few days. I'm down there like we ain't got

1359
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: no God damn video games. We ain't got no We

1360
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: just want TV. Man, about a third or fourth day,

1361
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: you to forgot all that exists because you just on

1362
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: a farm with your cousins.

1363
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: Hang out. You're free all day, you know the front

1364
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: of me, and it's a freedom in that.

1365
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: So I think that, I think that I'm going to

1366
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: say that a lot of the people, most of the

1367
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: people that are telling you how great their life feels

1368
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: on Instagram a lion and capping in flex decide what

1369
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: makes you happy and really really just decide what makes

1370
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: you happy and aim toward that.

1371
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 3: And man, stop comparing yourself to other people.

1372
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: Stop comparing yourself because you ain't had to suffer the

1373
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 2: suffering they've had to. So you don't know me before.

1374
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: I heard that so many times my life. You don't

1375
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: know what they had to do to get it. You know,

1376
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: go get seen that song Joseph Belle about your day.

1377
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: You know when she talks about the new dress and

1378
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: that woman is wearing them. Boy, you never know what

1379
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: she had to do to get it.

1380
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh bad, looks like a princess in her new dread.

1381
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: Come on, man, how did you get that? Do you

1382
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: really want to know?

1383
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: She say? Do you really want to know? That's what

1384
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1385
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: Everybody got something to say bad about a dancer because

1386
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: they ain't never been forced to dance for them. Girls

1387
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: get up there, they do their jobs. Man, but man,

1388
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: them sang girls that be a church, same girls start

1389
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: their businesses. So don't envy. Don't envy. Envy is a

1390
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: thief and joy. I almost felt myself envy a friend

1391
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: one time. I checked myself so quick I literally had

1392
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: to go to the bedroom talking to myself, like, what's

1393
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: wrong with you?

1394
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: This is your friend? Yeah, Like, what's wrong with you?

1395
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 4: You know?

1396
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: What I mean, Like I had to have a talk

1397
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: with myself, but that evil never got back in my

1398
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: ear again. Right.

1399
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: You know, Mike, you had a relationship with your grandmother

1400
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: like I had with mine.

1401
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1402
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: And I remember when my grandmother was about to leave,

1403
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: and I remember coming back in the room and I

1404
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: held in my arm and I said, granted, I got it.

1405
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: I said, you don't have to worry about mama, you

1406
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about spanking and live it.

1407
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: I got it.

1408
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: I said, you've done your job. I said, you can

1409
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: go now in peace. And probably a week later she

1410
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: was gone. But she just needed me to reassure her

1411
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: that her baby, yep, could hold it down because.

1412
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: Now I'm in charge. Yep.

1413
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: Your grandmother passed in your own Yeah, I'm a girl, man,

1414
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: What I mean? Because I slept with my grandmother until

1415
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: I was fifteen mins.

1416
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, man, I was.

1417
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: I was going to be a side for in high

1418
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: school and I'm sleeping in the bed when my grandfather died.

1419
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: I slept with my grandmother. My brother slept my grandfather.

1420
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: My grandfather died in seventy seven. I didn't get out

1421
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: of the bed with my grandmother until eighty three.

1422
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, damn, so what she meant? And to see

1423
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: the woman that you loved so much, that poured everything

1424
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: into you and the life.

1425
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: Just leave.

1426
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: Man. This girl had been trying to get me to

1427
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: believe in the Lord my whole life. Not that I

1428
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: didn't believe. I just had questions, just like man, cause

1429
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: you been inquisitive. King.

1430
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like man, I don't really get it,

1431
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I remember it was

1432
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: at sheltering arms. Man shouts out to that organization and

1433
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: that take care. My daughter Mikey went there. Now it's Freshmanhampton.

1434
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: We that she was having a Black History mom because

1435
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: and so she died in a in a in a

1436
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: leap here on last day. And the guy told me

1437
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: had to park down and walk up. I say, Mammy, shure,

1438
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: I s I could drive you up. I'm oh no,

1439
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm fine walker.

1440
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: And we walked.

1441
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: We got by half way up the hill. Man, I'm

1442
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: sh She she thought her name was too plain. It

1443
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: was Betty what a ie? So I called the Beatrice.

1444
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: I said that fancy enough for you, Beatrice, right, I said, beastrin,

1445
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: I'll take care her. She said, no, I want walk,

1446
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: and we walked, and we got by half up the hill,

1447
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: but we had just had an argument. I picked her up,

1448
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: and I'm taking her down there. And her mother had

1449
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: gotten married. And her mother was married to a solid dude,

1450
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: you know. He was kind of dude coach football, and

1451
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: he had actually coached my youngest son, pony, and he

1452
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: was involved in and and and and kids in the community.

1453
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: So I I liked him enough. I told him, you know,

1454
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: if we gonna both father this child, we have to

1455
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: have a relationship. You know, he ain't gonna just get

1456
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: to be over my daughter and we don't talk. We

1457
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: we we got to chop it up.

1458
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: You my friend, now both you know. I aks my grandmama.

1459
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: I said, why you talking to me about mother being married?

1460
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1461
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: She said, Well, I've been thinking. I was like, what

1462
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: you been thinking? Why don't you just let him a doctor?

1463
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 2: I mean, you got three other kids all. I lost

1464
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: my goddamn mind. I lost my mother mine, I said,

1465
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: my grandma said, you talking about I'm talking the woman

1466
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: that right they used to beat my hands on switching.

1467
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, like, what do you? I finally figured

1468
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: my life out. I finally got stable. I've gotten married,

1469
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: I have, I have.

1470
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: Can take care. I can't do this now. And after

1471
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 3: I went on a rent, she said something she never said.

1472
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: She my grandmother. She did something wrong. Got back.

1473
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: She said, I beg your pardon, and I beg your pardon,

1474
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: but she said I hurt your feeling.

1475
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, mama, damn near. I said, what'd you

1476
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: gonna say something like that for? I said, mother, her

1477
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: name's Michael. Another gonna raise Michael. You know what I

1478
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: mean this. I'm looking like i'mna let another. I ain't,

1479
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: can't be nothing but Michael Renda.

1480
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: She said, I'm sorry, and we rolled there and the

1481
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: guy struck us. We had to walk up. And when

1482
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: she got up the hill, she looked at me and

1483
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: she looked past me, and she seen something, and I

1484
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: just couldn't take my eyes off her. But I knew

1485
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: I was witnessing in that moment something And when she

1486
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: seen something, she smiled and she looked back at me

1487
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: and she.

1488
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: Smiled and she put her arms around me, and she

1489
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: was gone. I was by myself. I I was in

1490
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 3: the pre that quick.

1491
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: It was that quick, I was in the presence. But

1492
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: that moment of my m in my spirit my mother,

1493
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: because my grandmother raised me. I was in that moment

1494
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: with her and with our creator. And then she looked

1495
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: at me and it was as so, she said, I've

1496
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: done my job. I've done my job, and I'm called

1497
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: and I remember attempting seepr on them, and then it

1498
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: was just like the spirited came all of me, just

1499
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: say I got her.

1500
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: She's gone. And since that day, I am not stop

1501
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: working since that day.

1502
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: Blessings have not stopped pouring in since that day. And

1503
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: that thing made me a believer that I am here

1504
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: for a purpose. I don't know that purpose, but I

1505
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: know I have one. I know I'm on a journey

1506
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: set for or by righteous and divine being. And man,

1507
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: I tell you what the other absurdity of having a

1508
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: mother that's only sixteen years older than you. My mother

1509
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: told me in the funeral car as we're going to

1510
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: the gravesite. She spassed on me, on my uncle who's autistic,

1511
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: on everybody, me and shaken the car. She's like that

1512
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: shit one theft. You got to be with my mama

1513
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: when she was dying, and I was like, I didn't

1514
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: want their job. DENISEA used to be cursing I didn't

1515
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: want the job, Mike. She said, it ain't there. You

1516
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: think that's your mama. I'm your mama, and one day

1517
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: i'm'a be gone and you gonna realize that.

1518
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,959
Speaker 3: And god damn it. She died on me. She died

1519
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: on me, like six seven years later.

1520
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: And when she died on me, it hit me that

1521
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: my mother, at sixteen years old, made a decision like

1522
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: the woman in the parable Solomon when they came before.

1523
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: Two women said this is my child, and Solomon said, well,

1524
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: cut him in half and give each half.

1525
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: And the one who was really the mother.

1526
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: Said no, no, I'll give this child to you, cause

1527
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: it'll be better raised. And that's when I realized, Man,

1528
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm so blessed. I'm so blessed. My my grandmother was

1529
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: such a good mother to me. She was such an

1530
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: impression that I had. I I found a woman and

1531
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: married a woman that was just like her. She was

1532
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: her and my grandfather gave the second half of their

1533
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: life up to raise me. So you compliment my intelligence,

1534
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: you complimenting them, You compliment an illiterate man from Vington,

1535
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: Georgia who would sit me in this slap and say

1536
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: read to me, You compliment a girl from a big

1537
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: family that own land and Tuskegee that said, I'm gonna

1538
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 2: take these kids and show them that it isn't about

1539
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: material stuff, but it's about what's in your hand, in

1540
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: your heart.

1541
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: You took that.

1542
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: But a sixteen year old girl said that I'm allow

1543
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: my mama to raise his day because he don't have

1544
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: a better shot. Oh man, That's when I really realized,

1545
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: like a man, I realized that that that God favors me,

1546
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: and my mother was a part of that favoring because

1547
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: as much as a mother as my grandmother was, the

1548
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: choice to give me up to her by my mother

1549
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: is probably the most important decision that's ever been made

1550
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 2: for me. And I I wish you know, La Craig

1551
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: got me here, tip on a song now kind of

1552
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: all headphones and if my mother really did have headphones

1553
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: right now and here, and I just tell us, thank you,

1554
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: just thank you so much.

1555
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: I tell people that same story my grandmother, my mom,

1556
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: sending my brother, my sister and myself to my grandmother,

1557
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: and my grandmother raising my mom's three and loving my

1558
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: mom's three more than she loved her own. Ye, I say,

1559
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: sometimes the best decision doesn't involve you, and people don't understand.

1560
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can only under Sometimes things can only be

1561
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: seen through the eyes that are crying. I know this

1562
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: story because I lived here. You know my story because

1563
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: you lived there.

1564
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: Amen. Amen, and you have a greater.

1565
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: Appreciation because there ain't no question in my mind your

1566
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: grandmother loved you more than she loved the own kids.

1567
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: And that's why your mom said what she said. Boy,

1568
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 3: I get it. I understand, and that's all I wish

1569
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: I could. I understand what's next with Killer Mike.

1570
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know God got somewhere for

1571
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: me to go. It's my job to be dress and

1572
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: showered and ready. You know, I know that, I know

1573
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: that I have things to fulfill with people I love.

1574
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 3: That I made promises too. I know that ultimately my

1575
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: promise is to the person I look in the mirror

1576
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: and I say, I'm gonna do this for you. I

1577
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: know that Shay and I have someone to go and grow.

1578
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: I know my children.

1579
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure they can take care of themself

1580
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: or I get out of here. I pray that I'm

1581
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: around to see grandchildren and great grand So I'm twenty

1582
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: five more pounds down.

1583
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm out the three hundred clubs, so that's what you

1584
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 3: need to go. What'd you try to get down to?

1585
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: I was up the family faux twenty. I'm down to

1586
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: three twenty five. No, so you gonna get them. But

1587
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: then you will get a under three. I'm getting under three.

1588
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: That's the goal. Get on the three. Tighten up like

1589
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: you start cooking. Sha cook it. But I help a brother.

1590
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: I give you this in the immediate. I want y'all

1591
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: drinking this, cause this is really good, and Ellen and

1592
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 2: I worked hard.

1593
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 3: In the immediate.

1594
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: I want y'all to listen to me on conversation because

1595
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about some real things in the immediate.

1596
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put up a newsletter soon and the place

1597
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: about this. I want y'all.

1598
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: But if you can't get to the swag shot to

1599
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 2: get some products in the etiot, I'm gonna keep truth telling.

1600
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep I'm about to go in. We're about

1601
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 3: to make another.

1602
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: Michael if Ella's in Amsterdam and he calls me and says, hey, man,

1603
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: I got all the beast frond the juice five. I'll

1604
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: fly to Amsterdam and we'll get that done. But I'm

1605
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: gonna keep doing what I'm doing and multiple and ultimately

1606
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: is what my grandmother said. I'm gonna keep doing good

1607
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: and I'm keep doing what I was supposed to do.

1608
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: Kill the night later and Telem, I ain't keep it.

1609
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: That that was That was actually all my.

1610
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: Life, grinding, all my life, sacrifice, Hustle bad, the price right,

1611
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 4: wanta slice got the brother Geist, the swap all my life.

1612
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: I'd be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding

1613
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: all my life.

1614
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 4: Sacrifice, Hustle bad, the price one slice got the brother Geist, the.

1615
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: Swap all my life.

1616
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life