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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and we had some

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Speaker 1: fun there mock drafting. Mocking the first round with Mike

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Speaker 1: pursued in the previous segment. Uh so we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: do what we typically do and do a mock draft

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Speaker 1: at this time. We're a little mocked out. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do something a little different here. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: did want to give you the rundown on the trade

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Speaker 1: that Brown trade from Kansas from Baltimore to Kansas City. Matt,

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Speaker 1: what you said that was the Chief's first round pick,

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Speaker 1: which is thirty one. Here's what here I read. I

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Speaker 1: got it here. But Chiefs get there to give up

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Speaker 1: their first round pick, a third rounder which is a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick which is one thirty six and fifth

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Speaker 1: which is fifty eight and sixth round pick. So basically,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are now gonna have too late seconds and

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Baltimore now is a lot of picks,

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Speaker 1: including two first but no second, So typical Ravens fashion,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna make a lot of draft picks all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, and they have some compics and factored in

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Speaker 1: there as well, But one of them better be a tackle.

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Speaker 1: One of them has to be a tackle, because you

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Speaker 1: just gave one up, um, And so I would imagine

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Speaker 1: edge and receiver on the board to now you're looking

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Speaker 1: again at you know, maybe Leam Mikenberg does go in

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Speaker 1: maybe they take Jalen Mayfield. There's a mean, they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of round picks they could trade up for

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Speaker 1: somebody as well. I know you and I don't love

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Speaker 1: Jalen Mayfield, but he played for Hardball's Yeah, brother, that's

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Speaker 1: that's what Maybe that's what made me say that that

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Speaker 1: he'll know more about him than everybody else. But uh yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: I think the chiefs olignes in good shape though. Now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and it's surprising to see Baltimore

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Speaker 1: and Kansas City make a trade like the two teams.

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Speaker 1: That would be like the Steelers making, you know, five

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Speaker 1: years ago, with the Steelers and Patriots making a trade.

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Speaker 1: Like you you're the top two teams in your conference.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to make the other team better. Makes

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Speaker 1: me wonder if other teams just weren't that into Orlando Brown.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love him. I don't love him,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I thought he'd end up an Indy here.

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Speaker 1: You know, like, if you're Kansas City and you're trading

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Speaker 1: for him, are you automatically plugging him in at left tackle? Yes,

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Speaker 1: because that's what he wants to do. Yes, without questions.

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Speaker 1: I think he's better on the right. I think he

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Speaker 1: already had that conversation with him. He just feels more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was left all through a call. Here's

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Speaker 1: the other problem with that trade from the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: standpoint is now you have to sign him. You gotta

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Speaker 1: sign him though, right I assume that's in the cards

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Speaker 1: and you don't have a lot of cap space and

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Speaker 1: lot of other positions. Like if you just run him

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Speaker 1: you gave up a first round pick for a rental.

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Speaker 1: They did draft that tackle last year, and lang I

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Speaker 1: don't know that they will draft the tackle super high.

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Speaker 1: Well they won't. They won't. They won the first round.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe on the two second round picks will

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Speaker 1: be interesting. Yeah, definitely an interesting trade. Uh. You sent

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Speaker 1: me a piece here. This was by Matt Bowen of ESPN,

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Speaker 1: and he broke down some of the draft's best guys

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Speaker 1: at different positions based on different skill sets. Uh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna look here. We'll just go down the list, he said.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback with the best armed talent, no real surprise

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Speaker 1: here is Trevor Lawrence. I don't know, it's an easy

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Speaker 1: Matt Jones. He has Trede Lance. He never turns the

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Speaker 1: None of these guys turned the ball over a lot like.

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Speaker 1: a little bit misleading. Most anticipatory quarterback Jones Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: Best wide receiver after the catch battle is Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 1: They're different. Wattle is an elite return well, Chase is

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Speaker 1: armaj Brown after the catch. Best playmaking wide Receivert's waddle.

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Speaker 1: Most sudden wide receiver he has got Darius Tony there,

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Speaker 1: But you could also have considered this guy in that spot.

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins there from Michigan. He's a go open six four.

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Speaker 1: Very few guys were over six too in this class. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the RPO game. Somebody want to

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Speaker 1: Al Villaneuela interesting. Interesting. Yeah, hopefully it's for a lot

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Speaker 1: Best north Eth Juice running back. Ye, best change of

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Speaker 1: other lists somewhere else. You know, I don't agree with

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Speaker 1: this next assessment here, best contact balance Jane Williams. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he's got Trey Sermon. The sermon is good in that regard.

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Speaker 1: He's not Javonte Williams. And yeah, that's what makes Williams special.

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Speaker 1: running back, Naja Javonte Williams. Similar, Yeah, best pass catching

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Speaker 1: a lot different than a Dunds. You know, best past

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Speaker 1: big fat guard from Alabama Nope, Brown, I think his

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Speaker 1: downhill with you, Wan, they're back. I mean I would

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Speaker 1: never argue with that. Best past blocking offensive lineman, This

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Speaker 1: one might surprise you. Slater Nope, Bara Tucker, Nope, I

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Speaker 1: can't miss talent. What people forget about Luck too, And

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Speaker 1: it's probably a massive reason he's not in the league anymore.

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Speaker 1: He didn't go to a good situation. He turned that

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Speaker 1: into a good situation. And this new GM and coach

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Speaker 1: they were trading for Trent Richardson and wasted and signing

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson when he was thirty five years old, you know,

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Speaker 1: letting that offensive line go right, Andrew will stand out

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Speaker 1: in the pocket and get taking a beating, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I mean even um, you know, the coordinators and

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Speaker 1: his environment. Well, Lawrence, do that. I'll be impressed if

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Speaker 1: he does. I mean, that's asking a lot. I don't

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Speaker 1: care how good you are. I mean, okay, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna do much to help this guy early in his career.

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Speaker 1: As if the trans Asian isn't hard enough already, can

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and they don't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: because you know, if you're a if you're a free

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Speaker 1: watching what happened last time they signed all these free

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Speaker 1: it's a bad division. They may win two or thres

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Speaker 1: that will get you to four and thirteen, four and

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Speaker 1: they're better than Houston. Maybe it ain't saying much. Maybe

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Speaker 1: might split with them, and you hope thats and this

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Speaker 1: year's picks I'll start to look good, but they'll probably

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Speaker 1: two three years even if Lawrence is Herbert or better,

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Speaker 1: until they have a winning record. No, I agree, And

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take. It's gonna take time. Patients time, patients,

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the division not getting better. It's

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Speaker 1: a division to fall into though, it is, but they're

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Speaker 1: all going to have high draft picks. Who's gonna get

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Speaker 1: it right? Houston? I kind of trust Indianapolis and Tennessee

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Speaker 1: but it is Wentz legit. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know Tannehill's legit, but I don't know. If he's

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Speaker 1: he probably won't be the best quarterback now. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's already in his thirties. He's already in

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Speaker 1: thirt he is what he is. He's a good player,

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Speaker 1: but he's not going to be you know what if

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry stumbles and they can't run the ball in

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Speaker 1: wheels fall off of him there in trouble, they're a

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Speaker 1: fragile team. To me, I agree, Uh, but that yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think when you when you look at it that way. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I mentioned, Jackson is gonna have what

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Speaker 1: four or five picks on the top, so Codd and

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Speaker 1: mell On everybody will give him an A plus for absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And they drafted five guys everybody had heard of. And

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Speaker 1: the Browns used to be in that situation where you

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Speaker 1: bring in three first rounders and they got an A

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Speaker 1: every year, every year, and that's great, but it's not

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Speaker 1: long until you got to pick up your options on

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Speaker 1: all these guys and pay them to and bringing in

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Speaker 1: a ton of guys the same year. Got to pick

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Speaker 1: the right guys too, because I went back and looked

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Speaker 1: at the two thousand seventeen drafts at the grades that

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Speaker 1: were given out. I can't remember what website it was,

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Speaker 1: but the Chief's got a B minus for moving up

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Speaker 1: to take Patrick Mahomes, the Steelers gotta be for taking t. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt at thirty that year, and the forty Niners got

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Speaker 1: an A plus for taking Reuben Foster thirty one. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe he was still there, couldn't believe he was still there.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, supposedly they were torn between Solomon Thomas at

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Speaker 1: they lucked out that he had the Feld issues. To

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Speaker 1: wonder why he's still there. Oh yeah, that's a great

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Speaker 1: that's a great pick. I've had to do those the times,

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Speaker 1: and they're really dumb. Yeah, you're not gonna give anybody

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Speaker 1: a bad grade for taking somebody that you had ranked

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Speaker 1: that high, whether you were right or wrong. And let's

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Speaker 1: say Houston, Houston's first picks in the third round. They

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Speaker 1: may do well with what they have, they may knock

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Speaker 1: it out of the park. Right, like I get. You know,

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Speaker 1: if the Steelers last year no first round pick, they

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Speaker 1: take Chase Claypool. In the second round they take Alex Highsmith,

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Speaker 1: and those are good picks. Good picks have worked out well.

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Speaker 1: Then added, you know it went the team needs, but

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Speaker 1: they can't possibly get as good a grade many cards

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Speaker 1: in their hands. That's when the dumber exercise in the media.

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Speaker 1: I agree, but that's gonna do it for our show.

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Speaker 1: So for my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob ric here

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Speaker 1: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition to the

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Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back next week,

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Speaker 1: it'll be draft week. Yeah, come back for that, yeah,