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Speaker 3: That was a long game.

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Speaker 2: Late night, six hours, thirty nine minutes, one of the

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Speaker 2: of the Day. All of that coming up. So the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers beat the Blue Jays on Freddie Freeman's home run

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Speaker 2: in the eighteenth as they lead two games to one.

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Speaker 2: Can we play what it sounded like?

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Speaker 3: Marvin?

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Speaker 2: Do we have the call? On AM five seventy, Little

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Speaker 2: delivers Freeman. It's one high in the air, straightaway center

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Speaker 4: Freddie Freeman missed a World Series ends.

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Speaker 5: The marathon at midnight.

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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman is one of four players with multiple walk

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Speaker 2: off home runs in the postseason, so David Ortiz, Bernie

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Speaker 2: in baseball history with multiple walk off home runs in

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Speaker 2: the World Series. Shoho tani Oh, by the way, had

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Speaker 2: two home runs two doubles. They also walked him five times,

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Speaker 2: four intentionally. And that's one of those moments where, and

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Speaker 2: we were talking about this earlier this morning, we're actually

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Speaker 2: watching the greatest baseball player of all time. We're watching

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Speaker 2: him in real time. It's happening right now. It's not

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Speaker 2: one of those Hey, you should have seen that guy play.

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Speaker 2: He's the greatest baseball player.

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Speaker 3: Of all time.

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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth did something, but he didn't do it together.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do a combination. That doesn't mean he couldn't

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Speaker 2: have done it, but he didn't do it. He was

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Speaker 2: a great pitcher, best pitcher in the game, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden decided to be the greatest hitter.

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Speaker 2: Show Hey Otani with what he and he pitches tonight,

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Speaker 2: So you're going to have that performance where you walk

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, you're in trouble because you don't have you

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Speaker 2: got Freddie Freeman and show Hey Otani, and if you

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Speaker 2: don't have somebody that you can bring in and go,

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 3: Get that guy out.

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Speaker 2: They've gotten to the point where he's getting Bond's treatment

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Speaker 2: and I want you to pitch in shame.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to intentionally walk him.

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Speaker 2: I want you to throw the four pitches that look

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that you can't get him out, and you throw

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Speaker 2: those four pitches. But I mean one of the home runs,

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: What do you How could you possibly put it anywhere

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Speaker 2: so Ohtani made him pay. Freddie Freeman made him pay.

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Speaker 2: I just was like, just get the out, go, sit down,

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Speaker 3: But they would cut away to his wife.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you talk about the ebb and flow, the highs

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Speaker 2: That's all I could think of. But watching that last night,

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Speaker 2: I know people are going to say, well, what about

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Speaker 2: Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter. But what he

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Speaker 2: like this is one of those losses. That's not just

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Speaker 2: I think last night. But up two games to one.

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Speaker 2: I know it's only one game. All it takes is,

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Speaker 2: pitching staffs are really going to be taxed. But that's

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Speaker 2: where if you get Yamamoto, who gives you a complete game,

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Speaker 2: if Otani can give you five or six innings here,

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Speaker 2: you have an incredible advantage here. All right, See, let's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when you look at his at bats

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Speaker 4: last night, show Heotani, he had a double, a home run,

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Speaker 2: That's a hell of a night. Yeah, when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about let me see. So he walked five times, four intentionally,

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Speaker 4: It's fine, Paul is just saying, if you took that

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Speaker 4: last night, that's good enough to win a World Series MVP.

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Speaker 2: For the whole series, so week, the whole thing. If

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Speaker 2: won the National League the NLCS MVP based off one game,

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Speaker 2: Back on the program Good to see You again? Is

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Speaker 2: there a show heyo Tani in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: Or was there?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Patrick? Patrick?

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Speaker 8: As close as anybody, right, I mean that's that's as

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Speaker 7: But no show. How you're Tony? I mean, I mean

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Speaker 7: pitch and a hit. That's I was just make fun

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Speaker 7: that game a couple weeks ago. That was the old timers.

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Speaker 7: So no, Patrick Mahomes is the one guy right now

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Speaker 7: You know, there's some cool people to watch. That's for sure. Entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Knowing that we were going to have you on today,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this last night watching Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: scrambling it. You know, is it semantics here because Mahomes

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Speaker 7: Man, you're bringing up the most important question in sports,

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Speaker 7: most important question for quarterbacks because the game today, of

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Speaker 8: Week or whenever I'm on about the fact that it's

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Speaker 7: now going through this incredible challenge of when like the

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Speaker 7: need to be a sophisticated passer. I know it. I

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Speaker 7: And so how do I hang in there and fake

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Speaker 7: I'm not really sure. So I really got to lean

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Speaker 7: that how do I how do I know that? Patrick

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Speaker 7: Mahomes says we find it where he doesn't move unless

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Speaker 7: when the play is dead one it's done, or I

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Speaker 7: don't have a choice, I'll go. And once I go,

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Speaker 7: that's a whole other plays to play that that's a

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Speaker 7: And now I get another chance to run the run

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Speaker 7: a new play on offense, and then I have another play,

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Speaker 7: there's there's three really in distinct plays for Patrick, and

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Speaker 7: I will tell you, Dad, I think that's probably why

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Speaker 9: To myself, oh this is but I will say I'm

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Speaker 2: But you got hurt, you got hit, you suffered concussions,

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Speaker 2: they get carted off and they're giving a thumbs up

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Speaker 2: to the crowd, I'd be weeping.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think sometimes I would say that I didn't have

438
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Speaker 7: anything terrible ever happened, which I'm grateful for. But the

439
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Speaker 7: guys that I know who did talk about it as

440
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Speaker 7: if especially in knee when it's kind of blown out,

441
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Speaker 7: it doesn't like it doesn't hurt like the pains you

442
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Speaker 7: know already happened. But it just depends. But I'm telling you,

443
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Speaker 7: the toughest humans beings I have ever known played football.

444
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Speaker 7: I'm sure I wasn't in a lot of other spots

445
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Speaker 7: where the top shoe means hang out, but I did

446
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Speaker 7: hang out in football. And I'm telling you that I

447
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Speaker 7: remember going back to my Tampa Bay days the season

448
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Speaker 7: I played in Tampa with James Wilder James Alden running

449
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Speaker 7: back from Missouri, and we were two and fourteen, and

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Speaker 7: I remember thinking, like, you guys are losers. I'm like,

451
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Speaker 7: have you met James Wilder? That dude is not a loser.

452
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Speaker 7: That then, is the toughest human being I think I've

453
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Speaker 7: ever met my life. And that's the other thing that

454
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Speaker 7: you just you don't realize that so many guys are

455
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Speaker 7: toiling in the NFL that you don't know that aren't

456
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Speaker 7: the toughest bath as you ever late.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but you gave him the ball three

458
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty times.

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Speaker 3: The poor guy.

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Speaker 7: Don't make up some number like you got you're that fast.

461
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Speaker 7: You're not that fast at the stat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Paulie, would you check and see Wilder I think

463
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Speaker 2: has had the most carries in a season in NFL

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Speaker 2: his I.

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Speaker 7: Think it was like four oh seven for the record,

466
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Speaker 7: which you just trying to come.

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Speaker 3: On, don't don't show Why didn't you throw the ball

468
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Speaker 3: a little bit? Steve gave it to James Wilder.

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Speaker 7: The goodest story James over in the blizzard in Green Bay.

470
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Speaker 7: And I'm sorry if I repeat this story and I

471
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Speaker 7: had not completed a ball. I'm like, oh, for eleven

472
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Speaker 7: and it's like the second quarter and I'm like, my

473
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Speaker 7: first game ever played, say game I've ever played in

474
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Speaker 7: the NFL. I turned to James, like, James, jump in

475
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Speaker 7: front of me, and I'm going to shovel the ball

476
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Speaker 7: to you so I have a completion, because I'm afraid

477
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Speaker 7: I don't want to be the only quarterback in the

478
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Speaker 7: history of the game that you don't have a completion.

479
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Speaker 7: So you can see his stats that day. It's Wilder

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Speaker 7: of one catch fight its PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Do you have the numbers there on Wilder?

482
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Speaker 11: The most carries James Wilder had for Tampa was nineteen

483
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Speaker 11: eighty four, four hundred and seven carries fifteen and forty

484
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Speaker 11: four yards hem.

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Speaker 7: And he you talk about feeling every one of them

486
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Speaker 7: like he was a tough man. And so that's what

487
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Speaker 7: I guess what you're saying is there's guys that aren't

488
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Speaker 7: ready for the game because they are the toughest humans

489
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Speaker 7: you ever met.

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Speaker 3: Do you have your Tampa jersey framed?

491
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Speaker 7: No, I don't have anything frame, but I think I

492
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Speaker 7: have a Tampa jersey. I'm very proud of this. You know,

493
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Speaker 7: it's funny that season. It was fun into being a

494
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Speaker 7: team that was so dysfunctional and but yet such good guys.

495
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Speaker 7: But just the culture, the leader shift, it was just

496
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Speaker 7: a mess. It was a total mess.

497
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Speaker 2: Because I would have one that was game used because

498
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Speaker 2: you probably have grass stains and turfalls.

499
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Speaker 7: So we have these orange jerseys, but because they can't

500
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Speaker 7: find any material it's orange, they get it from, you know,

501
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Speaker 7: somewhere where it's thick. It's like this thick you can

502
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Speaker 7: almost fold it and it would.

503
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Speaker 3: Make a freeze, you know what I mean, Like and

504
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: it was hot down there.

505
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Speaker 7: Does anyone know we're in Tampa? Like, where's the match? Bro?

506
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Speaker 7: Gives me some orange mesh? Why do we have to

507
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Speaker 7: have this thick like Canadian it's stupid stuff like that.

508
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Speaker 7: You're just like, come on, man, like, like let's get

509
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Speaker 7: this figured out.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you again, Daniel good Man, Thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Milan won a World Series championship with the Four

516
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Speaker 2: Red Sox. The MLB Network analyst and you can see

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Speaker 2: him with Ryan Dempster. That'll be MLB Network every day

518
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Speaker 2: starting at five Eastern covered the World Series. How do

519
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Speaker 2: you feel today?

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Speaker 10: I feel amazing. We've had a great night here.

521
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Speaker 11: We all came up to my room, Denny, I had

522
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Speaker 11: Ryan Dempster, we had Mark durosa Team USA manager, had

523
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Speaker 11: a buddy coming down. But I'm gonna tell you didn't

524
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Speaker 11: realize we're gonna be here for eighteen inights.

525
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Speaker 10: It kept getting better and better and better.

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Speaker 11: And I want to ask you one question is is

527
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Speaker 11: sho Hail tani Ai? Because what he does on the

528
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Speaker 11: field doesn't make sense. I think we all just sit

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Speaker 11: here and go yep, I'm just gonna go back to

530
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Speaker 11: the computer board. He'll go awfu awful, taco crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gotten to the point where they're not

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Speaker 2: going to pitch to him.

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Speaker 11: You can't like we were sitting there last night It

534
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Speaker 11: was so fascinating because you know Mark was playing I

535
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Speaker 11: files the bench coach and what would you do here?

536
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Speaker 11: And would you take out Kirk to pinch run And

537
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 11: there's so many decisions before they happen, right before we

538
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 11: all play armchair quarterback.

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Speaker 10: Fascinating. Yeah, you have to, and then you're sitting.

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Speaker 11: Here, you walking him to a former MVP in Mookie Betts,

541
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Speaker 11: and then if you want to get by him, then

542
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Speaker 11: you get another former IVP mister World Series. So it's

543
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Speaker 11: fascinating and how you do it. I just got to

544
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Speaker 11: walk up. He's proven to you, but.

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Speaker 2: As he gotten to the Barry Bonds status when it

546
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: comes to you just can't pitch to him.

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Speaker 10: You just can't because you think you can. And even

548
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 10: when he.

549
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Speaker 11: Walked you know that last at bet when it wasn't

550
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Speaker 11: just put him on. You see the stress though, Like

551
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Speaker 11: this poor pitcher's trying to not not throw strike Seafields fan.

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Speaker 10: But like we are.

553
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Speaker 11: If I tell you Dad, hey, stay away and then

554
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 11: you just like lead one curveball up, you know, it's

555
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 11: like it might be embarrassing.

556
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Speaker 10: And that's what he can do to you.

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Speaker 7: Dan.

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Speaker 11: You know that like you'll get embarrassed. A home runs

559
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Speaker 11: a home run, then I'll put you in the parking lot.

560
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Speaker 11: And when you're the last row of the of the

561
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Speaker 11: of the bleachers and you and I are sitting back

562
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Speaker 11: there with the nine hundred dollars ticket these days and

563
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Speaker 11: usually the home runs kind of go oh yeah.

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Speaker 10: Who's gonna catch it? And now they go like this,

565
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Speaker 10: heads up in the parking.

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Speaker 11: Lot, guys, Yeah, there's a ball bouncing.

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Speaker 10: It just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Schuresier can't get away with that pitch. Maybe a

569
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Speaker 2: younger Sureser can. But you keep like they're just places

570
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Speaker 2: where the other home run I got's a terrible pitch

571
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Speaker 2: I got right. If I'm making a mistake, my mistake

572
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Speaker 2: is never gonna be across the plate.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: It's funny because you know, any way, you got the

575
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Speaker 11: droop text, you're trying to there's four thousand different things

576
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Speaker 11: and John Smoltzen I was all of us were on

577
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 11: this text and he's kind of like they're pitching him

578
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Speaker 11: not so good.

579
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Speaker 10: He is amazing, but you do have to be careful,

580
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 10: you know.

581
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Speaker 11: And there's this old story, like you know, I told

582
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Speaker 11: Ryan when we faced Barry Bonds. Everybody walks Arry Bonds.

583
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Speaker 11: I said, just throw the four seamer, just go after him.

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Speaker 10: Let's see what he has. Well he had it.

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Speaker 7: You know.

586
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Speaker 10: A few pitches later Ryan was coming in. He was like,

587
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 10: thanks for that one. He could hit. That's what happens, though.

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00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 11: You know that you and I are sitting there and

589
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Speaker 11: we're watching this game, like, are they gonna walk me

590
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 11: to say, well, no, just go at him a little bit,

591
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 11: maybe just a little bit.

592
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Speaker 10: There's no little bit like in the World Series.

593
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Speaker 11: In this kind of a moment, you're just gonna have

594
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 11: to say, Mookie Bett's gonna have to beat us.

595
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: And I started to wonder about the impact that this

597
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 2: will have on tonight's game because Otani's pitching, So you

598
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: play eighteen innings. Most pitchers aren't doing anything prior to

599
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: that night that they're going to be pitching. This is

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Speaker 2: where you cement a legacy if you're Otani. If he

601
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: goes out there and throws five quality innings. I mean,

602
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: we might be looking back on this, you know, ten

603
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: fifteen years from now and telling our kids' grandkids we

604
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: did see the greatest performance in baseball history.

605
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 10: It is there's not words.

606
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 11: You don't know what word to use, and I'm a

607
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 11: motive going in or to warm up, like for him

608
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 11: to come down, whatever you need me to do, like

609
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 11: you got goose mumps when you saw him walk to

610
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 11: the bullpen, yellone, like Otani there was a steady seven

611
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 11: for seven his last with five home runs and two doubles, like.

612
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 10: Dero looked at me.

613
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Speaker 11: Durosa goes, we're watching the Lily World Series, like these

614
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 11: are numbers to hit a big league home run in

615
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 11: the postseasons big and now we start hearing like these

616
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Speaker 11: numbers like George Springer has you know, twenty seven postseason

617
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 11: home runs and you're like watching O'tani make this look

618
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 11: like a video game.

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Speaker 10: It's not that easy, guys. I want everybody to understand

620
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 10: that it's not that easy.

621
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Speaker 11: And the seven hundred and fifty million dollars contract that

622
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Speaker 11: we all sat back, going, good lord, have mersey.

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Speaker 10: He's almost underpaid. He should have been paid two point seven.

624
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Billion, right, it's not your money, no, you and I I'll.

625
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Speaker 10: Give a percentage of the team.

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00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: My goodness, gracious, who would you want up in a

627
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: clutch situation?

628
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Speaker 3: Big Poppy or show he.

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Speaker 10: Oh, big poppy brother.

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Speaker 11: I mean I only can speak from just sharing with

631
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Speaker 11: the guy and loving the guy and just understanding what

632
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Speaker 11: he did for us in games four.

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Speaker 10: And five, like, hey, just come on and get on

634
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Speaker 10: my back.

635
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Speaker 11: I'm gonna go deep off control and then we're gonna

636
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Speaker 11: go have a twelve pitching bag against Lewisa. Thank you,

637
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 11: We'll head to New York game six. Now, that's a

638
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 11: great question. Listen, oh Tony, what he's doing now is just,

639
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 11: I mean stupid. Right, we all, Poppy didn't get out

640
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 11: in twenty thirteen, it felt, and Pompy didn't get out

641
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 11: with us when we needed every big RBI.

642
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 10: I would take David or too.

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Speaker 2: Final answer, I don't know if showering him, you know,

644
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: being in the shower with him has anything to do

645
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Speaker 2: with his performance at the plate. But I'll leave that

646
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Speaker 2: up to you and Poppy. Must be a special relationship

647
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Speaker 2: you have there. We're talking about Kevin Malar MLB network analysts.

648
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Speaker 2: All right, how did the Blue Jays get back in this?

649
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Speaker 11: I think they they have shown everybody they punched back.

650
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 11: They punched back. You know, you sit back, even in

651
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 11: game one when they face Snell. We're sitting there in

652
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 11: Toronto and without man the daughters, I mean they just

653
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Speaker 11: mean the Blue Jays, right, don't have a jams. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, they have a chance. But you know

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Speaker 11: they come in as there's an underdog, there's a favorite.

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Speaker 11: They're an underdog, no doubt.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 11: Blake Snell's giving up a run in postseed starts in

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Speaker 11: fourteenth straight as he's starting the game, and you saw

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Speaker 11: them battle, battle, battle, and then boom and they punched

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Speaker 11: right and you saw him last night. Edmund has a

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Speaker 11: big air obviously, Alejandro Kirk. If you don't have a

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Speaker 11: man crush on him, Dan Patrick, and you're not a

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Speaker 11: sports fan, if you don't think you can get in

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Speaker 11: the box, spread out, get load of the base.

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Speaker 10: Their simple movement, just a little bit of a shoulder.

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Speaker 11: Lean and his barrel and his bat just stays right

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Speaker 11: through here this plane. He will rifle stuff foul, he

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Speaker 11: will battle on breaking balls. And for him to get

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Speaker 11: up there and hit that three run home run in

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Speaker 11: that moment, let's talk about that like it just doesn't

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Speaker 11: make sense. And they go down one, they keep punching

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Speaker 11: and punching, and you feel it when bar shows up,

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Speaker 11: you feel he can put one in the streets. They

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Speaker 11: have a lineup vlag Garrel Junior, I think is growing

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Speaker 11: in front of our eyes. You're looking at an athlete.

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Speaker 11: You're looking at a great defender at first base. You

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Speaker 11: probably paid these better than you thought at first base

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Speaker 11: along with everybody else. He's smart, he's running the base

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Speaker 11: as well, and he's electric at the place. So I

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Speaker 11: think they punched back. How do they get back in it?

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Speaker 11: The question is can Shane Bieber beat the Dodgers? I

683
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Speaker 11: think the question for me was could Max Scherzer and

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Speaker 11: Shane Bieber beat the Dodgers. They're gonna have to find one,

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Speaker 11: and so now it's up to Shane. Don't call me Justin.

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Speaker 3: Yamamoto reminds me of Pedro Martinez a little bit.

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Speaker 10: You know what, that's a great comp in. Pedro's prime,

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Speaker 10: little guy, easy, easy, v low and and.

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Speaker 11: Hits those four quadrants where he wants what the execution

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Speaker 11: on that three to two curveball to Vlad in Game

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Speaker 11: two and then Barshaw got it also, like the ability

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Speaker 11: to throw seventy four to seventy six hour breaking ball

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Speaker 11: for ninety seven is split x kid too, and he's great,

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Speaker 11: He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you're looking at You're looking at some stuff

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Speaker 10: in the series.

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Speaker 2: Most famous person in the crowd last night, Justin Bieber.

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Speaker 11: I want to go use the restroom, and there are

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Speaker 11: seventeen people surrounding it. And when you got to go

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Speaker 11: the bathroom, and you know that when you gotta go potty,

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Speaker 11: you're ready to go potty, and you kind of closer

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Speaker 11: you get to a bathroom, your mind's already saying yay,

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Speaker 11: they're right there. So it gets worse and then all

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Speaker 11: of a sudden, you get the back up, excuse me,

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Speaker 11: I gotta go potty, sir, back up. Bieber's in there.

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Speaker 11: I know that, But I played in the show. I

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Speaker 11: mean I took chanhell Park deep there. Vinceculley now fit.

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Speaker 7: That didn't count.

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Speaker 11: That that count And then they were soon I give

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Speaker 11: my peaches down to Georgia.

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Speaker 10: I get my blank in California. So yeah, it was

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Speaker 10: Justin Bieber's the one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you didn't get to say loa to him, did.

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Speaker 10: You, No, no, no, I couldn't get to him.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna try together there and get a quick

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Speaker 11: selfie in the bathroom, but it didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: But he's uh, he had his Blue Jays jersey on.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that's what's cool like Drake, Like here in

719
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Speaker 11: Toronto and then there's there's Drake. You forget the fans

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Speaker 11: come out right. But Blue Jay fans are awesome. The

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Speaker 11: whole country is awesome. They got six million watching. He

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Speaker 11: was electric there. Dodger Stadium was phenomenal last night. The

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Speaker 11: weather you can't you can't paint a better picture right now.

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Speaker 11: There's no shadows. That's the good news. And so we'll

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Speaker 11: see what goes on tonight.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Thanks for getting up.

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Speaker 11: Always great to see you, and I'll see you on

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Speaker 11: our show at some point. You're coming on with your

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Speaker 11: shirt off?

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Speaker 3: Oh, with my shirt off?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I want your shirt off. It t after dark.

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Speaker 2: Hoops, I'm worried about you, you know, big poppy in

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Speaker 2: the shower.

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Speaker 3: You want me with my shirt off? Like, what's going

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Speaker 3: on here?

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Speaker 10: That' sturts? Get daddy, You know that we didn't talk

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Speaker 10: about Shillings, and we talked about.

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Speaker 3: When's the last time you talked to Kurt Shilling?

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Speaker 10: Got it? It's been a little bit, you know, it's

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Speaker 10: been a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, why is he not in the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 10: I don't know every fifth day, man, you wanted him

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Speaker 10: on the mountain. You know that.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he it seems like all these great ones,

746
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Speaker 11: right Kershaw on the baseloader moment, we don't saying about that,

747
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Speaker 11: like are you kidding me?

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Speaker 10: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Like I was holding I was holding my breath.

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Speaker 10: It was Yeah, you could have seen what happened. Happened perfectly,

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Speaker 10: like just just absolutely grinding at bat. And I love

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Speaker 10: Freddy's comment saying we saw eighty nine on the slider.

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Speaker 10: He goes, I knew we were in pretty the old school.

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Speaker 3: Shaw, Thank you. keV.

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Speaker 10: Alright, pal, We'll see you guys.

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Speaker 3: That's Kevin Malah.

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Speaker 2: I always think of those fan bases like the Red

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Speaker 2: Sox looking at Mookie Bats, the Braves, Freddie Freeman, Angel

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Speaker 2: fans looking at show Hey Tani, Red G. Miller, Angels

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Speaker 2: fan Hall of Famer. He'll be on the call with

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Speaker 2: Mike Cherico and Jamal Crawford. It's the Knicks and the

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Speaker 2: Bucks tonight on NBC and Peconic tip off eight Eastern.

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Speaker 2: How does that feel to be an Angels fan watching show?

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Speaker 3: Hey Otani Theodore.

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Speaker 12: I'm so glad you brought this up because I need

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Speaker 12: to know this, because I need to know the inner circles.

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Speaker 12: How in the world did my beloved California Angels. I'm

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Speaker 12: not even gonna call him the Los Angeles. There are

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Speaker 12: the California Angels. To me, how could we have ever

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Speaker 12: seen show Hey O'tani and Mike Trout in the same

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Speaker 12: uniform on the same team. How could we ever see

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Speaker 12: show hey walk out the door?

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Speaker 10: Now, I know he was a free agents and free

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Speaker 10: agent and he can.

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Speaker 12: Go anywhere he wants, but we should have gave him

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Speaker 12: part ownership of that team.

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Speaker 10: There's no way he should have ever.

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Speaker 12: And not only does he leave, he goes right down

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Speaker 12: the road to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: It kills me. It kills me.

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Speaker 12: I know it's not very popular to be an Angel

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Speaker 12: fan in Dodgerland.

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Speaker 10: I've been, but I grew up because of my brother Darrel.

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Speaker 10: As you know I am. I'm a diehard Angel fan

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Speaker 10: and it just ow. Come on, talk to me like

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Speaker 10: I'm a kindergarten.

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Speaker 3: They should have given him part of Disneyland, you know,

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Speaker 3: they should.

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Speaker 12: Yes, whatever you wanted, they should have given it to him,

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Speaker 12: whatever you wanted.

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Speaker 3: Is there the best two ways?

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Speaker 2: So pitching and hitting, he's probably the greatest baseball player

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Speaker 2: of all time, but the best two way player in

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Speaker 2: NBA history.

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Speaker 3: Is in terms of basketball. Yeah, best two way player

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Speaker 3: in the NBA in history.

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Speaker 12: I would say, uh, Kawi comes to mind.

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Speaker 10: Two way offensive defense, right.

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Speaker 2: But he's not better offensively than and he's not better

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Speaker 2: defensively than Jordan.

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Speaker 12: I would say he's on part defensively with Jordan. He's

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Speaker 12: not offensively as good as Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Elijah one.

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Speaker 10: Ding Dean for the win. Oh here's another one.

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Speaker 3: Kareem Early in his career.

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Speaker 12: Okay, well early in his career he was he was that.

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Speaker 12: I would I would say Kareem or.

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Speaker 2: Hakeem because I know it's not it's not apples to

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Speaker 2: apples with what Otani is doing. But you do have

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Speaker 2: to play defense, and you know Mahomes doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: play defense in the NFL. Correct, So just to be

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Speaker 2: able to go to the other end and not be

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Speaker 2: a liability or to be a stopper, I don't know

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Speaker 2: do we have stoppers anymore in the NBA.

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Speaker 12: I will say in today's generation, in today's games, I

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Speaker 12: would put Jannis in that category. He averages thirty, but

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Speaker 12: he does a good job on defensive end. I think

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Speaker 12: last season's MVP SGA Shay is a pretty good two

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Speaker 12: way player as well. Gives you thirty two at one end,

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Speaker 12: and I think he was second in steals a year ago.

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Speaker 12: Those two guys come to mind again. I mentioned Kawhi

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Speaker 12: Leonard Victor. Oh, he's changing the game, right.

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Speaker 10: He is.

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Speaker 12: I'm every time you turn into a Spurs game, you're

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Speaker 12: gonna see something new.

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Speaker 10: So last night it was the three sixty layup, right, it's.

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Speaker 12: He will do one thing when you leave that arena

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Speaker 12: or watching that game, going I gotta see more.

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Speaker 3: He took three, he took a logo three and he's

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Speaker 3: got good form.

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Speaker 10: He's got great form.

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Speaker 12: And I think just looking at him, it looks like

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Speaker 12: he's put on not a lot of weight, but he

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Speaker 12: looks like he's a little bit more I don't know,

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Speaker 12: more comfortable.

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Speaker 10: In his skin.

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Speaker 12: He put on like maybe ta pounds or something, but

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Speaker 12: he's much more comfortable out there on the floor. It's

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Speaker 12: and for them to be undefeated at this point. I

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Speaker 12: know it's early, it's only a week into the season. Look,

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Speaker 12: they're not winning the championship, but I like how they

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Speaker 12: are playing as a young team.

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Speaker 2: And you're seeing him. He should have been Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year. He didn't play enough games to qualify.

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Speaker 2: He's only twenty one. He can guard the perimeter from

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Speaker 2: the paint. He's averaging six blocks now, he can shoot

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Speaker 2: shoot the three. He's got a handle. They're putting him

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Speaker 2: in different positions on the block where he can succeed.

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Speaker 2: And I said this, I got Lucas the MVP this year,

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Speaker 2: but after that, I've got Victor.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Victor the next five years.

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Speaker 12: After that, we'll look for Luca and for Victor to win. Obviously,

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Speaker 12: team success is going to play a counterpoint. So if

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Speaker 12: the Spurs continue to play like this, I say the

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Speaker 12: Spurs end in a top four in a loaded Western Conference, yes,

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Speaker 12: he'll win the same with Luca Luca in the Lakers,

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Speaker 12: They've got to finish in the top four. To me,

872
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 12: it'd be I know, I think Jokic wanted a few

873
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 12: years ago, and Denver was I believe six in the

874
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 12: Eastern or in the Western Conference, so there is precedents

875
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 12: for that. But I think if either one of those teams,

876
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 12: the Lakers or the Spurs, finish in the top four

877
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 12: in the very heavy loaded Western Conference, one of them

878
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 12: will win MVP.

879
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: If I said, you can have Luca or you can

880
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: have Victor Victor, Okay, is there any player you would

881
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: take over Victor winbin Yama for let's say the next

882
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: five years.

883
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 12: Well, he's only twenty one, but to me, Sga Cannet,

884
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 12: he cannot go wrong. Look opening night watching him and

885
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 12: then obviously watching him last year in the finals in

886
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 12: that playoff run and.

887
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 10: Watching it up close as personal as a fan. I mean,

888
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 10: this dude has it all. I mean when the.

889
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 12: Game is on the line. He knows how to create

890
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 12: his own shot, he knows how to create for others.

891
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 10: And again.

892
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 12: I look at the other end as well. I think

893
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 12: that's what made Michael's so great. Not only was he

894
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 12: giving you forty in the playoffs, but he was shutting

895
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 12: you down, shutting me down.

896
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: In the playoffs. Well, he didn't shut you down.

897
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 10: But to me, that's what SGA SGA. He plays at

898
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 10: both ends of the floor.

899
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 12: So to me, I wouldn't trade either one of those

900
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 12: players right now.

901
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: If I said you could have SGA or Luca.

902
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 10: Oh my god, Oh, I would take SGA. Really, yeah,

903
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 10: I'm taking SGA.

904
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 3: You're in love because you got to play the other end.

905
00:42:53,840 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 10: Of the court. Lucas getting there. I mean he's getting there. Luca.

906
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 12: Now, I will say this to me, Luca is a

907
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 12: better scorer than Wimby and SGA.

908
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 10: But there's two sides of the ball.

909
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 3: You know that, all right, There's two sides.

910
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: Reggie is on the call the Knicks visit the Bucks,

911
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock tonight at eight eastern. I was wondering

912
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: about this where we talk about shooting form. You're one

913
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: of the great shooters of all time. But would you

914
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: teach your son how to shoot the way you shoot

915
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: or would you try to have him emulate somebody else.

916
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 12: I would have him shoot the way he's comfortable shooting.

917
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 12: Shooting the basketball or like fingerprints, everyone's fingerprints are different.

918
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 12: Everyone's going to shoot the basketball different. So there's no

919
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 12: way I would tell my son to shoot like me

920
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 12: or Clay. Now I might reference like a Ray Allen

921
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 12: or Klay Thompson in terms of their form and their

922
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 12: follow through, but in terms of how you hold the

923
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 12: basket the ball and your release form because I was

924
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 12: an orthodox my elbow out that wasn't textbook. You look

925
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 12: at Stephen Curry, he's not textbook shooter, but we know

926
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 12: he's the best shooter of all time and he goes in.

927
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 12: Everyone shoots the basketball different.

928
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 10: You could have.

929
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 12: Talking points about other players, but you want I would

930
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 12: want my son to shoot how he's comfortable shooting.

931
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

932
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 2: I always wondered that when you because your your release

933
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: was unorthodox, But it's it's kind of like golf swings

934
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: as long as everybody ends up at the same spot

935
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: when they get to the ball with the club. But

936
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: was your follow through the same as anybody else though

937
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: when you released it.

938
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 12: The thing that and if you watch all these great

939
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 12: shooters and you can go back to the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

940
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 12: as long as your shoulders are in line with the rim,

941
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 12: it doesn't matter if your elbows like this, like this,

942
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 12: your shot, as long as these are square to the

943
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 12: rim where mine always was. It doesn't matter what your

944
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 12: release form is and how you get the ball off.

945
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 12: As long as your shoulders are in line with the rim,

946
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 12: that's all that matters.

947
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 7: Yeah.

948
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: Then Larry Bird made fun of my release because he said,

949
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: your shoulder, it's out, and I go.

950
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 10: But hold on, look at his release. I look up.

951
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 10: And what I tried to do when I got to

952
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 10: the high school.

953
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 12: In college, I copied a lot of shooters, Larry being

954
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 12: one of them. Because Larry shot so high and he

955
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 12: shot over his head to his left. I took a

956
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 12: lot from Dell Ellis, who was another great player.

957
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 10: Coming off screens. He shot the ball like right in

958
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 10: front of.

959
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 12: His face almost so I went on the court depending

960
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 12: on the situation.

961
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 10: If I was coming off and getting.

962
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 12: Ready to shoot over my right shoulder off of a

963
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 12: pin down screen, I shot like Larry. I would get

964
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 12: the ball on the high release when I was curling

965
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 12: coming off my left shoulder and a chance to get

966
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 12: in the in the room. It's a much quicker release,

967
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 12: so it was more catch and shoot like a Dale Ellis.

968
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 12: So I would pick and choose different shooters that I

969
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 12: respected their games and how they released the basketball and

970
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 12: incorporated that into my very unorthodox release and shot.

971
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: You love the next to win the ease, right I do? Okay,

972
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: I do.

973
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 12: We mentioned this last week with Boston and Indiana the

974
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 12: injuries to their two star players, it's wide open.

975
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 10: But to me, it's it's Nicks or bust.

976
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 12: Though, I mean, they just beat the Cavaliers opening night.

977
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 12: The Cavaliers will have something to say. I still think

978
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 12: Cleveland will win the East in terms of their record,

979
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 12: they'll have the number one seed. But I do think

980
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 12: once New York really figures out Mike Brown's system, pace

981
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 12: and space and getting up threes because they're not used

982
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 12: to playing like this. They played half court basically under

983
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 12: Tom Thibodeaux. Mike Brown wants them to run, get up,

984
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 12: get a lot of threes up, So it's gonna take

985
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 12: some time for them to get and condition their legs,

986
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 12: their lungs that play that way.

987
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Theodore the Sixers backcourt, I love Maxi and now you

988
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: get edgecom in there, and wow, you're not gonna get

989
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: Paul George anywhere near what they hope to get and

990
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: even Joe Ellenbi that's gonna be a real slow slow

991
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: But if those.

992
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 12: Two guys give them anything right and they and those

993
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 12: guards continue to play, Kelly Oubray had twenty five last

994
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 12: night for them as well, if he can give them contribution.

995
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 12: To me, they're one of those teams that you don't

996
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 12: know because if the big fella turns into the big fella,

997
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 12: like we're his MVP campaign, well, Nick, that's.

998
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 10: A different story.

999
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 12: Paul George doesn't have to carry the load like he

1000
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 12: used to anymore because of injuries. To me, it's I

1001
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 12: res Maxie's team, right, and that young kid uh at edgecomb,

1002
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 12: I mean, there's that's an impressive start to a season,

1003
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 12: so his confidence is there. But if the big fella

1004
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 12: turns into the big fella and can remain healthy, to me,

1005
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 12: the Sixers are they're one of those scary outs.

1006
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: What was the most concerning or damning thing about the

1007
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: FBI investigation that stood out with the NBA to you.

1008
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 12: Well, let me break this down. You know, it's two

1009
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 12: different separate incidences. So Terry Rosier and Damon Jones are

1010
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 12: all about the the rigged and the parlays and the

1011
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 12: over unders, whereas Chauncey's is about fixed poker games.

1012
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 10: And I'm wrapping my head around this because I.

1013
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 12: Just I come back to the reason of why, like,

1014
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 12: why would someone jeopardize these guys jeopardize their career and

1015
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 12: their livelihoods for something like this. I mean, I've known

1016
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 12: you a long time and this goes back to high

1017
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 12: school for me and even in college, and you can

1018
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 12: relate to this. You aren't even almost allowed to say

1019
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 12: the word bet.

1020
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 10: Right. It was like a taboo.

1021
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 12: And in today's society with partnerships with Van Duel and

1022
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 12: DraftKings and all these betting sites, it's very murky. And

1023
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 12: I just wonder why these guys would put everything on

1024
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 12: the line for a short amount of glory.

1025
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 10: I just don't get it.

1026
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 12: You know, your boys are supposed to be around you

1027
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 12: to protect you, not exploit you. And that's in terms

1028
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 12: of Cherry Rogier and Damon Jones.

1029
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 10: I'm somewhat sad with.

1030
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 12: The Chauncey things, because we've known for a while he

1031
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 12: is one of the best dudes you'll know.

1032
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 10: And again we don't know everything.

1033
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: But I wonder if they got compromised, Reg. I wonder

1034
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: if they owe it you back, you get in the.

1035
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 10: Hole, and how do you get compromised? Why?

1036
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 12: My point is, why would you put yourself in that

1037
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 12: situation to be compromise?

1038
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: You don't think you're going to lose that cut, and

1039
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: you know Barkley's talked about that, you end up losing

1040
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: a million dollars and then all of a sudden you

1041
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: got to pay it back, and then what if you

1042
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: can't pay it back? And then they say, here's how

1043
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 2: you pay it back. You bring in these people and

1044
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 2: play poker and we're going to take their money.

1045
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 10: Well, if that.

1046
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 12: Is the case, which I hope it's not, that even

1047
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 12: makes my stomach even turn even more, because again, why

1048
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 12: put yourself in that situation?

1049
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: So Terry Rogier and Damon Jones are probably thinking nobody

1050
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: is going to notice. Now that's why people do you

1051
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: know John t Porter than a vacuum. Reg, He's like,

1052
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: nobody's gonna be following my over unders. Well, they don't

1053
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: until somebody puts one hundred thousand dollars on your over under.

1054
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: Now you got Vegas and I think maybe Rogier and

1055
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: you know Damon Jones. They live in a vacuum, like, hey,

1056
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: I got some information for you. Make sure you know

1057
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: you give me a kick back at twenty five hundred dollars.

1058
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: They're not thinking that they're gonna get caught.

1059
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 12: Look, it's again, we don't know everything. I certainly don't

1060
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 12: know everything. I have more questions than the answers for you.

1061
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 12: I this is a sad day for sports, for the NBA.

1062
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 12: I'm sure they're gonna relook how their betting nods are.

1063
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 12: They're over unders on certain.

1064
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: Well, we've got to take away prop bets.

1065
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: You gotta because that's so easy to manipulate because everybody

1066
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: knows what their prop bets are.

1067
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: You got the Bucks game tonight.

1068
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: I got Giannis's over under rebounds at twelve and a half.

1069
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: Like I right, I.

1070
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 10: Don't know which. I don't know what you can do.

1071
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 10: This is I don't know what you can do.

1072
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: Would you rather go back and talk about the angels

1073
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: and show?

1074
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 12: Hey, O, Tony, I don't know what hurts me more this,

1075
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 12: Betty thing or showing it.

1076
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: The Angels have fun tonight.

1077
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: Tell Mike Trinco and Jamal Crawford second best score on

1078
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: the broadcast team.

1079
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 10: Now, why are you now you're trying to get me going.

1080
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: No, you're the number one.

1081
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 10: Okay, yes, he's too.

1082
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: No you're not two. Okay, you're the best. You're the

1083
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: best shooter. I haven't seen your best shooter.

1084
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 12: But in terms of handling it, because look, Jamal could

1085
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 12: go out. Jamal can give either one of these teams tonight.

1086
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 12: He can give them fifteen twenty minutes right now, seriously,

1087
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 12: yes he could.

1088
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 10: Jamal could.

1089
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Speaker 3: That'd be great.

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Speaker 12: Jamal could probably get ten points tonight in tonight's game. Now, well,

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Speaker 12: they'll probably have to play ZWN, but he could give

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00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 12: them ten points.

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Speaker 2: That'd be a great story, that would It'd be great

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Speaker 2: if he could play in a game and then then

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Speaker 2: come over broadcast. Now, the NBA has got enough to

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Speaker 2: worry about that we don't.

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Speaker 3: Need to do all right, we're gonna stup. He's Reggie

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Speaker 3: Alo Wishes Miller. You'll find him.

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Speaker 2: Tonight at eight Eastern. Mike Tarico, Reggie and Jamal Crawford.

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Speaker 2: It's the Knicks in the books, thanks Bud.

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Speaker 10: Thank you Theodore. Appreciate my dad. NATS Love you guys,