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Speaker 1: Welcome Berg Gang. On today's show, preseason game number one. No,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray did not play, but there was still a

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Speaker 1: lot to like. The player who did get the started,

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Speaker 1: quarterback Colt McCoy. I thought he was very efficient. The

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Speaker 1: entire twenty twenty one draft class performed well, and of course,

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Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin, the former Arizona State Sunduble, he made the

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Speaker 1: most of his opportunity. We'll get into all of that

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Speaker 1: and more. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode four fifty three,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckti. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins one handed catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu Micareckie so walking into State Farm Stadium

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Speaker 1: earlier on Sunday MJ much different than exiting State Farm

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Speaker 1: Stadium on Friday nights after the preseason opener, Bird Gang,

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Speaker 1: I hope you made it home safe and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you we don't get a lot of rain here in

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Speaker 1: the valley, MJ. But there was a torrential downpour Friday night,

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Speaker 1: one part where you have no choice. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: for showing up on Friday. That was That was I

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Speaker 1: guess the biggest takeaway for me, MJ. You know, we

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Speaker 1: at three thirty in the afternoon and a long time

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Speaker 1: over the Cowboys nineteen sixteen. But with fans in attendance

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Speaker 1: this season, it is going to be night and day

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Speaker 1: from a year ago. Well, I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: And you know the fact that he got three preseason

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Speaker 1: the entire rookie class was impressive, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: perform on Friday night. First things first, as far as

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Speaker 1: Friday night's game, Jonathan Ward and Chris Banjo. According to

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. Clearly that Cardinals were excited. I know there's

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Speaker 1: the same thing with Corey Peters. I don't see him

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Speaker 1: good shape. I gotta think in week one he'll be

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Speaker 1: your starting nose tackle. I want to see Rahad Lawrence

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Speaker 1: get back and Lucky Foe two, Zach Allen. These guys

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Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned about J. J. Watt. Once his

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Speaker 1: that's where I think we're going to see him practice.

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Speaker 1: But real excited about this folk tales something that a

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Speaker 1: this is an episode, Yes, it is about Pat Tillman,

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Speaker 1: but it's more than Pat Tillman. It's that locker that

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Speaker 1: we see in so many shots and footage, specifically JJ

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Speaker 1: it was Jim Mohundro who stopped the construction of that

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Speaker 1: renovation of the locker room because at that moment, what

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Speaker 1: Pat Tillman's locker or the locker that he used, and

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Speaker 1: it was great timing and something that now we're proud

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Speaker 1: to bring kind of like the backstory to why this

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Speaker 1: has become a talking point around the office and around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, that's a great job by Jimmy because

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Speaker 1: that's the last thing I didn't even cross my mind.

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Speaker 1: I knew the story, but when for us it had

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Speaker 1: been fortunate enough to be in the cafeteria, it's they

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Speaker 1: have a great wall of all the some of the employees, Dala, Harris,

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Speaker 1: Rod Graves, you know, Denny Green's up there. But on

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Speaker 1: the corner is the Pat Tillman locker and it sticks out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm even Zavan Collins when he got drafted here.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure every single player that walks by there you

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Speaker 1: have to stop and take a look. Absolutely and again.

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Speaker 1: September eighth, Folk Tales Episode one, Legendary Locker premiers September eighth.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's switch gears to the offense. Kyle the

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Speaker 1: Murray did not play. He was expected to, yet, as

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Speaker 1: we were told after the ball game, head coach Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury explained that Murray got enough work in practice did

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Speaker 1: not want to risk anything. And honestly, Bird Gang, if

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Speaker 1: you look around the league, I think to dates, almost

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Speaker 1: half of the starting quarterbacks did not play in the

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Speaker 1: preseason opener. Now, is it a disappointment if you came

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Speaker 1: to stay Farm Stadium hoping to see Kyle the Murray

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Speaker 1: in the first team offense in action? Absolutely? But do

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Speaker 1: you want to see him MJ in preseason game number

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Speaker 1: one or do you want to see him in regular

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Speaker 1: season Week one? Yeah? Listen, this is more problem around

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Speaker 1: the league. It's not worth the risk. I mean, clearly,

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Speaker 1: he would not They would not call a design run

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Speaker 1: for him in the preseason. But let's be honest. You

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Speaker 1: to make the roster, and usually he would be on

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Speaker 1: want him to get hit. And to me, he said

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Speaker 1: a ton of reps in practice. I don't know, he's

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Speaker 1: not been on a pitch count. They do a really

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Speaker 1: good job, you know, obviously with the GPS he's wearing.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you know he's not doing too much when

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Speaker 1: it comes to running and all that other stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, clearly I wanted to see. I just

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Speaker 1: thought with Rodney Hudson in that line, you know, go

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Speaker 1: out there and do what you do. But hey, Colt

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Speaker 1: McCoy is still learning the offense. He may have to

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Speaker 1: play at some point. And then Chris Traveler came in

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Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, Straveler, I wish he would

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Speaker 1: have played like that in Week seventeen last year. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's touch on McCoy because I thought he was very

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Speaker 1: efficient over the course of his three Over the course

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Speaker 1: of his three series, passing wise six of seven for

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Speaker 1: sixty nine yards. But it was his command of the

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Speaker 1: offense really and something that you alluded to. He is

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Speaker 1: still learning. But according to Kingsbury after a review of

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Speaker 1: a new offense. And I thought it went very well,

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Speaker 1: especially that second drive that he was on the field

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Speaker 1: four that ended with a Matt Prader field goal to

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Speaker 1: make it three nothing. But that second drive, I think

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Speaker 1: we saw what a veteran at that position, the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: can do and handle himself as far as when things

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Speaker 1: go well, when to speed up, when to slow down,

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Speaker 1: making the proper checks. I was very impressed by Culte McCoy.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a long time MJ, but just enough to know that,

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Speaker 1: all right, if something happens, and we hope it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: there is cult McCoy in the background, you know know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know when you always look at you know, bringing

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Speaker 1: in a backup quarterback and clearly he's not going to

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Speaker 1: compete for the job. You know. There was a few

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Speaker 1: the command he has. You can see his teammates gravitate

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Speaker 1: to him. We think he's gonna be a sponge when

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Speaker 1: him when it comes to Kyler Murray, especially in the

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Speaker 1: film room, recognizing defense, being make calls. But again I

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Speaker 1: think he's shown that throughout the training camp. I mean

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Speaker 1: there are times when he's in there, he's under center

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Speaker 1: more than Kyler is. And I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not going to change your offense, but

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Speaker 1: there's some things that he's not going to run like

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He's gonna try to sit in a pocket,

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Speaker 1: go through his progressions and if he has to, he'll

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Speaker 1: run out of bounds. But I think he's really the

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Speaker 1: perfect backup quarterback for Kyler Murray. Again, he's not trying

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Speaker 1: to take his job. He understands his role here and

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Speaker 1: the more information that they can share together because Kyler's

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Speaker 1: helping him now learn the system. Twenty two snaps for

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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy over those three possessions and the offense overall,

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Speaker 1: we saw five wide, we saw four wide. We saw

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Speaker 1: a tight ends split as a receiver inside. We saw

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Speaker 1: two backs in the backfield. We saw a motion, we

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Speaker 1: saw bootleg rollouts. There was no vanilla and the game

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Speaker 1: planning and then the play calling of Cliff Kingsbury in

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Speaker 1: years ago that's all we got was vanilla, and maybe

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Speaker 1: if you want to go with that food analogy, but

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Speaker 1: a much different version of the offense. And I do

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Speaker 1: think we will see more because it does put stuff

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Speaker 1: impressed by what I saw. Well, we've mentioned this and

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Speaker 1: four wide receivers, and we can make a case or

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of these undrafted free agents they

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Speaker 1: could go four or five wide. They like they're like

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Speaker 1: their top three tight ends. They're impressed with Demetrius Harris.

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Speaker 1: He's come in here and done a nice job. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's just got here. But they liked and

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Speaker 1: then Ross Travis. He's a guy that catches the ball.

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Speaker 1: So they like their four tight ends. But I just

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Speaker 1: think Cliff is comfortable now and I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much we're gonna see it, but they could run ten

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Speaker 1: personnel if they wanted to, and then you have a

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Speaker 1: you know, you try to spread the field out a

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Speaker 1: still think eleven and twelve personnel. But like you said,

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Speaker 1: they're putting stuff on film and now you got to

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Speaker 1: defend it. And speaking of that, you know the wide

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Speaker 1: He caught three passes for twenty three yards. He had

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Speaker 1: ways they got him the football, whether it was on

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Speaker 1: a jet sweep, whether it was the fake to Edmonds

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Speaker 1: then he gains yards. That was That was fun to

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Speaker 1: watch because it does give you a glimpse of what

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Speaker 1: might be in store for Rondell More within this offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and maybe some people were wondering why wasn't he out

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Speaker 1: I think they want to find out who's on the

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Speaker 1: is it plays a skill position? You know, I know

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Speaker 1: Jojo Award can return punts and kicks. We know Christian

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Speaker 1: Kirk can return punts, and right now the focus should

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Speaker 1: be just on him as a wide receiver. I feel

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Speaker 1: when the season starts, that's where he's gonna get his

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Speaker 1: count out by him returning punts and kicks. But I

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Speaker 1: think they want to find out and including Jeff Rogers,

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Speaker 1: who if something happened to Rondell More, what are my

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Speaker 1: top three guys that can do it? And this is

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Speaker 1: the time they're doing the preseason. Yeah, but I would

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Speaker 1: just and we talked about this Friday during the pregame.

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Speaker 1: There is a difference fielding kicks punts in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. You have more time to wait, meaning there

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Speaker 1: And then in this stadium at State Farm Stadium, how

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Speaker 1: And I would like to see it. I know you

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Speaker 1: at some point in the preseason returning kicks. It seems like,

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Speaker 1: find who can be the backup. Yeah, And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna, you know, when they're playing the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have the scoutingly report that they're gonna go

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Speaker 1: back and see what he did at Purdue and he's

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Speaker 1: got the speed and all that. But they do catch

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Speaker 1: you're right, you got somebody breathing down your throat, you

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Speaker 1: hit the first guy that's coming down there. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of times it's off the jugs machine, so that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. But he's very fluid catching the

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Speaker 1: But if he's able to get a sliver, and that's

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna. I wouldn't. I wouldn't show him anything

642
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: on film with him in the preseason. I wouldn't put

643
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: him out there as far as special teams, but there

644
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: is enough film with him now. On offense, five total

645
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: touches for thirty nine yards, and you had Christian Kirk

646
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: out there for a little bit, had a nice catch

647
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: on a thirty four yard deep ball, but no DeAndre Hopkins,

648
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: no aj Green, So there was a way to get

649
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Rondel more some more snaps. As far as inside or outside,

650
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: keisha On Johnson played a lot. He was playing inside

651
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: and outside because remember Andy Isabella is on the reserve

652
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen list, so there was opportunities on Friday Night

653
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: for different names out there as far as the wide

654
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: receivers are concerned. But cannot stress enough just how much

655
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: of a fan I am of Rondel Moore who he

656
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: is as a person. As a player, He's no nonsense.

657
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: He's all work and now to be able to see

658
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: it come to fruition preseason, yes, but it is a

659
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: glimpse of what could be come the regular season. Well.

660
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: It was interesting because you know, him and A. J.

661
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Green were doing some rehab on the side a few

662
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: maybe a few days before the game, and he practiced

663
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: back to back days and obviously we joined you at

664
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: three thirty for the early Weird Special, and he was

665
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: out there working out and they were stretching him left

666
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: and right, and I knew he was going to play

667
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: based on how he was dressed, but he spent a

668
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: lot of time on that field getting stretched out and

669
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: then running routes, so I think he got to get

670
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: warmed up. Clear, it wasn't a doubt that he was

671
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: going to play, but I think they were cautious to

672
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: see how he look because he was getting stretched out

673
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: for a while and then all of a sudden, you

674
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: could tell he was going to play, and so I

675
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: was glad he played because he needs the reps. He's

676
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: a rookie. You play twenty three snaps on offense. Ron

677
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: del Moore did, Keyshawn Johnson was on the field for

678
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: fifty three snaps and training camp sensation. Andre Butchelli forty

679
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: eight snaps of offense. And that is what happens. You

680
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: flash in training camp. Now can you do it and

681
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: show up on film once the game starts? And but

682
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Shelley got five targets, caught two passes for fourteen yards.

683
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: There were no touchdowns through the air, there was one

684
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: on the ground. And we'll get to you know, Benjamin

685
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: in a moment. But there is some depth at the

686
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver position as far as okay, if something should happen,

687
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: you have guys that you think you can further develop,

688
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: whether that's being active or inactive, or trying to slide

689
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: onto the practice. I think I think Beelli and Jojo

690
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: Award probably your seventh and eighth receiver. Now, if you'd

691
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: have told me, you know, if I didn't watch training

692
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: camp and you tell me how many snaps, Keishawn Johnson

693
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: was on there. I was like, oh, he's on the bubble. No,

694
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: it's he needs the reps and he understands the offense. Now,

695
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: as you point, I can play inside, outside, he's going

696
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: to play on special teams. I mean, he's your fifth

697
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: receiver right now. And so I like the fact that

698
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: last year no off season. Now he gets a chance

699
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: and initially his rookie year. You know, he played well

700
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: in the first month of the season. We didn't see

701
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: him a whole lot after that. And an additional nine

702
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: snaps for Keishawn Johnson on special teams. The only one

703
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: who played more than that was tied and Ian Bunting,

704
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: who was on the field for twelve snaps. And Keishawn

705
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Johnson is making a mark on special teams. All right,

706
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of players making a mark, we didn't bury the

707
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: lead here, but certainly as far as the hometown kid,

708
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: Arizona State, Sun Devil's owned you know, Benjamin, Yes, he

709
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: flashed and took every bit of opportunity that was given

710
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: to him on Friday night, and that victory with the

711
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys MJ his first game action since November thirtieth, twenty nineteen,

712
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: when he was playing. As he said, that team down

713
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: south Arizona stayed against you of a but no preseason

714
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: a year ago and the first time you know, Benjamin

715
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: got to where a Cardinals uniform was Friday night. Yeah,

716
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people were rooting for him,

717
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: whether they were watching on television. Total yards one hundred

718
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: and thirty four yards wasn't in a touchdown. Chris Traveler

719
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: led him in rushing ten for fifty five You know what,

720
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: I think he had fifty yards correct on five carries

721
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: on five carries, so that's a pretty good average. Yes,

722
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: that your Niagara Falls mass would come out to ten

723
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: yards every time he touched the football. But the vision

724
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: that he showed, including on that thirty eight yard run,

725
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: the ability to see the hole and then cut to

726
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: his left for extra space yards after contact, that was

727
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: impressive to see. And then the ability to return kicks.

728
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: He had three kick coofs for a total of eighty

729
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: four yards, but it was a thirty five yard kick return,

730
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: a twenty four yard kick return, another twenty five yard

731
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: kick return. So he certainly showed something to special teams

732
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: coordinator and assistant head coach Jeff Rogers that look, if

733
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: you're looking for someone who can return kicks. I can

734
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: do it. One I can catch the ball in and

735
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: two I can make something happen to where we're not

736
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: starting at the twenty five yard line, maybe we're starting

737
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: at the twenty eight, the thirty, the thirty five yard

738
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: line and giving Kyle Murray and company better starting field position.

739
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: What a difference a year makes. I mean last year,

740
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, he showed enough to where they cut him

741
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster, but he was in

742
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: active every game. And here, I mean they showed him

743
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: on television. He could just see the smiles and kind

744
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: of a relief, like I can know, I can plain

745
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: this league. I just need an opportunity, and he's taken

746
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: advantage of it. I think that started in the offseason.

747
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Jane James Sexon really believes in that room, and you

748
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: know him and Jonathan Ward are probably the third and

749
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: fourth backs and you know, words a little bit different runner,

750
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: but you know, it's definitely flashed here. And I hope

751
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: that we continue to see what he does in the

752
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: preseason because he'll make the roster some matters. He's going

753
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: to be active on game day and depending on how

754
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: long Jonathan Ward is missing time with that ankle injury,

755
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, that competition and do

756
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: you I mean, is it is it for that number three?

757
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: Or do you think there's a possibility that four running

758
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: backs make this active roster. I think four make the roster.

759
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: It's not the active ros the fifty three man roster.

760
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: I think four could be three. But if you only

761
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: go with two tight ends and two quarterbacks, you can

762
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: go a little bit heavier at the running back position.

763
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: You go three tight ends, do they go? I get

764
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: the impression they're gonna go. Maybe we put nine or

765
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: ten offensive linemen. So if you go two quarterbacks and

766
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and four running backs, I think that's a

767
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: good number. Jonathan Ward's day to day he has an

768
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: ankle injury. That's good news because he's another special teams

769
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: player and I like the way he runs. You know, listen,

770
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to happen to Chase or Connor,

771
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: but if one of those guys misses as a series

772
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: or two, I feel comfortable with Jonathan Ward. And at

773
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: this point Eno Benjamin, and Benjamin probably doesn't get enough credit.

774
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: He's willing to sit there and take that that that

775
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: blitz pick up and try to release a little bit too.

776
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: He can catch the ball in the open field. Yeah,

777
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: very impressed by EO. Benjamin. And I like your word

778
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: relief that he had. I mean, yeah, there was happiness afterwards,

779
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: but hey, I got the opportunity I finally got on

780
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: the football field to show this coaching staff what I

781
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: can do. There was a reason they drafted him seventh

782
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: or in the seventh round. Yes it's a seventh round pick,

783
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: but you know, you choose players for a reason. And

784
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: now two years later, the Cardinals are seeing that, Yeah,

785
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: there might be something there with EO. Benjamin. Yeah, and

786
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, Jonathan Wards and undrafted free agent, he'd been

787
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: in the system too. Ars. The Cardinals were thrilled the

788
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: way he approached things last year, being an undrafted free

789
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: agent coming here without you know, whole entire offseason or

790
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: sort of speak, no preseason games. But and then you

791
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: look at Edo Smith and so we'll see. But you

792
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: know the fact is, I think that they really liked

793
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: their top four running backs. And it wouldn't surprise me

794
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: if a veteran comes out there. Maybe you try to

795
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: slide among the practice squad just for insurance, because we

796
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: sit here today and with a seventeen game schedule. You know,

797
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna get fifteen to sixteen games out of Chase?

798
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get fifteen sixteen games out of Connor?

799
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: Or as one of those two guys gonna play all

800
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: seventeen games. We know they're gonna share Carrison. Nobody's gonna

801
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: be like you know, getting twenty five carries every game,

802
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: so they should be able to stay healthy. But we

803
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: know that position definitely, you've got to have the longevity

804
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: to last an entire season. Cardinals Covered two presented by Hyunday,

805
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Couple quick negative moments

806
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: from Friday one. Max Williams, who has had an outstanding

807
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: training camp fumbles, had the ball stripped or ripped out

808
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: of his hands on that opening drive and then the

809
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: second offensive possession, both DJ Humphreys and Rodney Hudson get

810
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: called for false starts. Now, with Hudson, it was a

811
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: snap in fraction which certainly looked weird in real time,

812
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: and then looking at the you play, it certainly seemed

813
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: that Hudson snapped the ball when he saw a Cowboys

814
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: defender jump into the neutral zone. Now it wasn't caught.

815
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: Hudson was caught and flagged. And we talk about penalties,

816
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: and we talk about turnovers and hurting yourself and that

817
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: can't happen to this offense in the regular season. And

818
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: the fact that it was Rodney Hudson who gets penalized.

819
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: We didn't have a single penalty all of last year.

820
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: You know, we always make fun of or talk about,

821
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, is that irony ironic? It? Maybe it was

822
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: a little irony. I'll have to check with the Vice

823
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: president Media Relations, Mark Dalton for the proper definition of that.

824
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: But you know, you don't want to see it happen.

825
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: But if it is, because it's a brand new offensive line,

826
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: new quarterback, that center quarterback relationship, get it out of

827
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: the way right now. Amen. You would have thought some

828
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: of the younger players would have penalties, even a guy

829
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: like Josh Jones because just the first time he's gonna

830
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: get a chance to start, and you know, the Cowboys

831
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: do have a you know, a good front four. Don't

832
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: know if they rotated players there, but you would have

833
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: thought about him from a younger player. I'm not concerned

834
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: about Humphreys or Hudson. Yeah, I'm not either. It was

835
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: just it gets magnified because you keep talking about it

836
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: and harping on it, and then all of a sudden,

837
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: turnover back to back penalties, though they wanted to back

838
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: to back penalties, but all of a sudden, you're going

839
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: backwards and you know that. Luckily that second drive ended

840
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: with a field goal, and quote McCoy was able to

841
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: sell things down and it looked much better. But just

842
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: the initial like, well, did you think it corrected in

843
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: the offseason. That's what you're left asking. But it's a

844
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: fair point, right, I don't want to overlook it because

845
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: that's been a point of emphasis in training camp. You

846
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: jump off sides, you go out for a play, and

847
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: we're not seeing so many guys jump off sides. I

848
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: don't know the situation to where, you know, maybeing get

849
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: the call or like you said, it was kind of

850
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: a you know, an interesting call where he was called

851
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: on Hudson's penalty. But like I said, it's gonna happen.

852
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Hopefully get out of the way right now, because that

853
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: can hurt you. We talk about you know, first and

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Speaker 1: five or first and ten, and then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden his first and fifteen and if it's a holding

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Speaker 1: penalties first and twenty. Now, all of a sudden, what's

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Speaker 1: your plan going into that drive is completely changed? But

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Speaker 1: I'm confident when it comes to Hudson and d J Humphries,

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Speaker 1: we know that hump has been very consistent over the years.

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Speaker 1: The last player that in d that deserves to be

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Speaker 1: spotlighted here on Cardinals Cover two presents by Hunday, probably

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we look back at

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Speaker 1: Friday Nights preseason open or nineteen sixteen Cardinals beat the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Matt Prator. No, results don't matter, but I do think

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Speaker 1: outcomes in this case because Prador not only four or

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Speaker 1: four on field goals, but he tied the ball game

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Speaker 1: up at sixteen a piece with a minute fifty one

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Speaker 1: to go on a forty eight yard field goal. Won

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Speaker 1: the game is time expired with a forty seven yard

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Speaker 1: field goal that just snucked through the left upright, and

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Speaker 1: as day Pass said on the TV broadcast quote, that's

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Speaker 1: why they got him. And yes, how many games are

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Speaker 1: won and lost on field goals, There were a couple

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Speaker 1: last year that kept the Cardinals out of the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But you have a solid field goal kicker this team

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, can be in games and win

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Speaker 1: close games, win one possession games, as opposed to walking

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Speaker 1: off the field because a kicker did not do their

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Speaker 1: two things would come to mind there situational football and

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Speaker 1: they finished and that was an issue last year. So

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Speaker 1: Matt Prator, the way I look at it, you look

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Speaker 1: at the offseason additions and how much of an impact

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Speaker 1: these players could have Hudson, Watt, aj Green, Collins more

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Speaker 1: in Praydor. Those are additions that they were not on

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Speaker 1: the roster a year ago, and they're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: impact plays this year. The guys I mentioned, So listen,

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Speaker 1: he's very consistent. You know, you look at his numbers.

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Speaker 1: He really has a strong leg from fifty plus. But

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Speaker 1: he's been very consistent in training camp. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that they what was a two field goals in like

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Speaker 1: two minutes and seventeen seconds correct two minutes or two

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Speaker 1: field goals and under two minutes? Wow, So and that

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Speaker 1: was and we didn't we haven't talked about Chris Streveler yet.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I just I honestly don't want to

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Speaker 1: see Chris Traveler on the field this season. No, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying he was night and day from how he

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Speaker 1: played leisure again practice squad. Guy, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see him, but you gotta you gotta have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that can play. And he definitely he's a tough guy.

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Speaker 1: You see him running in the open field, He's dropping

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Speaker 1: his shoulder, yeah, because that's what he does well. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And they should have ran him last year. But I

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Speaker 1: don't want to go back to last year. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: you have to have You don't want Kyler out there.

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Speaker 1: You don't want Colton McCoy in these second halves. The

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Speaker 1: only way he's going to get better is playing against

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Speaker 1: NFL talent, and Hill is going to see a lot

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Speaker 1: of time. Probably will play the entire second half against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, might even play the entire game against the

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Speaker 1: Saints on the twenty eighth, because yeah, game reps are

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Speaker 1: going to matter well and and he's you know, you

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Speaker 1: could see the improvement. Again, I don't want to see him.

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Speaker 1: He's not the Tyson Hill where he's gonna be acted,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna run the scout team and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: give their defense fits during the season. Cardinals back on

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Speaker 1: the practice field on Sunday, aj Green doing some individual work.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Jordan Phillips. Dark was Denard's still absent, but

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Speaker 1: that again minor issues, minor deals. As head coach Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury likes to describe, I don't think there's anything to

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Speaker 1: worry about as far as long term injuries for this team,

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Speaker 1: and that's a good news. You're gonna have nagging injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a grind and coming off their first game,

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Speaker 1: even though they played a ton of snaps, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: some guys are banged, not feeling it made his bumps

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Speaker 1: and bruises. But if you're a dark Quis de Nard,

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Speaker 1: you better get on the field. And again, I don't

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Speaker 1: know the injuries, so you know, we'll see how He's

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Speaker 1: got two more preseason games. The team's gonna break camp.

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Speaker 1: But lurking is Marco Wilson. Yeah, especially if it continues

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Speaker 1: to impress as he did on Friday night against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and the next opportunity for the Cardinals Friday nights against

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs Nash televised on ESPN locally, I

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Speaker 1: believe it's on Fox ten, at least according to my DVR,

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Speaker 1: that's what it's scheduled. Five pm kickoff, and of course

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Speaker 1: one thirty pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals radio network.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more into that as the week progresses. Maybe

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Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury will open up the door and

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Speaker 1: what he hopes to see out of some players and

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Speaker 1: maybe how much we might see Kyler Murray come Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, what is your prognostication Murray

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Speaker 1: play or no. I think he does play, and maybe

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Speaker 1: a series or two, but not more in that outside

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Speaker 1: of just kind of getting the rust off and then

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Speaker 1: some game reps with a new offensive line or at

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Speaker 1: least a new center. That's just my guess. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't have any insight. I was surprised. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was going to play. They know more than we do,

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Speaker 1: and Cliff explain why he didn't play. I'm not in

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Speaker 1: a hurry to put him out there. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you that, no, you want to see him on week one.

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Speaker 1: You don't really care about the preseason here in Augos.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get to September with Kyler Murray. And that's

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Speaker 1: why they got Chris Traveler. Absolutely mandatory leveler as paulkal

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Speaker 1: VC likes to say. On that note, we'll put a

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Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer, Jim I'm a Hundro for Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Cover two.