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Speaker 3: This is nick.

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Speaker 4: of the Cowboys. It's Miller Times and now your hosts

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Speaker 4: Mickey Spagnola, Everson Wolves and Bill Jones.

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Speaker 5: It is week number two of NFL Free agency and

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Speaker 5: you have come to the right place. You have come

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Speaker 5: to the swbc's podcast studios of their beautiful Star in Fresco,

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Speaker 5: where the Dallas Cowboys are putting a Super Bowl team together,

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Speaker 5: right right?

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Speaker 2: Said it? Said it with your chest. Don't ask us

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Speaker 2: after you say it with your chest. You didn't need

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Speaker 2: us to confirm anything, will and we're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Confirm it over the course of the next hour. Here

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Speaker 5: set it already, super Bowl team together.

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Speaker 6: I mean, let me write that down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, come, I like that, putting a Super Bowl team together. Guys,

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Speaker 7: Before we get started, can I please please wish my

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Speaker 7: youngest child a happy birthday today. Kia Harrison turned fifteen

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Speaker 7: and of my four children, she is my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Oh she knows it.

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Speaker 8: Oh you made that decision already.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, all of them and then you know what,

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Speaker 7: and they all know it too. The baby, you know,

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Speaker 7: and she the meanest one out of all of them.

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Speaker 2: So happy birthday.

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Speaker 5: But it's funny my three daughters, my two older daughters,

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Speaker 5: say that the youngest is my favorite.

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Speaker 2: They know. They don't even argue about it, no dispute.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows the youngest gets away with murder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: We've given up by Sometimes she comes.

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Speaker 8: Along there, I got a baby right here.

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Speaker 5: I'm a baby too, yeah baby, yep, So all right,

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Speaker 5: we established that right there, you go, all right, well good,

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Speaker 5: all right, so we GotY birthday to her.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you just don't let it change.

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Speaker 7: In three years it might it might make you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean, you hitting that age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's fifteen, she's still number one.

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Speaker 5: So all right, all those are the challenging years right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm living it of their own.

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Speaker 5: Uh huh. Yeah. It's funny though, the ones that might

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Speaker 5: and this is more of the relationship with mom. The

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Speaker 5: one that butt heads more with mom at fourteen or

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Speaker 5: fifteen is closer to Mom now at thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Because they knew they were wrong about everything. That's what

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Speaker 2: it is. It's maturity and understanding.

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Speaker 7: I knew nothing right, and that's something you get to

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Speaker 7: a certain age.

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Speaker 8: It's like, absolutely was clueless. At this age, you don't

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Speaker 8: care anymore. Right, you have to remember that. You have

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Speaker 8: to remember that, all right.

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Speaker 5: Uh, well, we care about what's happened in the last week,

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Speaker 5: and the last time we convene, nothing had happened. And

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Speaker 5: there's a whole lot that's happened with your Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 5: since then. But before we start that, did you take

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Speaker 5: in some Grand Prix racing over the weekend around at

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Speaker 6: I did you watch some of the what you missed?

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Speaker 5: You missed it if you didn't the practice? The practice, Okay,

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Speaker 5: all right. It was really a cool event. It really was.

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Speaker 5: I was out there on Friday yesterday. But the whole

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Speaker 5: setup and everything and Jerry Jones and Charlotte and the

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Speaker 5: whole game, they were they were loving it. And uh,

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Speaker 5: I got to tell you that I think is going

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Speaker 5: to be assuming they're going to continue to have it

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Speaker 5: every year, It's going to be a go to event

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Speaker 7: It was it was crowded. Uh I love the crowds

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Speaker 7: out there. I was actually calling a softball game with

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Speaker 7: thing to watch a guy that absolutely he loves racing,

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Speaker 7: same time. I'm like, dude, I don't know how you're

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Speaker 7: doing this. But he was more dialed into the race

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Speaker 5: And I'm not a race guy. I don't ever watch racing,

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Speaker 5: oh man, but this it was just cool because you

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Speaker 8: I was like, that's a lot number ten.

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Speaker 6: It looked good on TV.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and now with more people will know about it

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Speaker 5: going forward because this was the first time they ever

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Speaker 5: the road was bumpy. I guess you can expect that

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Speaker 2: Random mill exact bumpy. Really good thing.

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Speaker 6: They moved up the start time too, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Because the wind that was weird yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Well wind it was crazy miles an hour or effect.

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Speaker 8: He's called, Oh yeah, they moved it up.

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Speaker 5: Basically, Really the wind hit right when the race ended,

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Speaker 5: basically yeah. Yeah, So racing guides were looking down. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So anyway, I want to get that in right off

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Speaker 5: the top, and so March next year put it on

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Speaker 5: your calendars.

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Speaker 8: What you doing? No, I was just doing that.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: Who won?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 7: He toured the Star with yeomans and went up and

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Speaker 7: had breakfast with him in the Cowboy Club and he

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Speaker 7: won it.

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Speaker 8: Nice.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Well that was the key thing the club.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, ye okay, so we got one champion. Walk in

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Speaker 5: the hallways to the start. Let's go. Now, let's work

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Speaker 5: on some more. All right, So where do we start with?

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Speaker 5: What's happened in the last week? What are y'all thinking?

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Speaker 6: I want to start from the beginning or the end

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Speaker 6: and go backwards.

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Speaker 8: Let's stark. We walked out the door. What happened after

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Speaker 6: The trade was agreed to wasn't official, as we found out,

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Speaker 6: you got to have a physical before it's physical.

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Speaker 2: Man. Wow, whoa hey, that's way wait did you hear

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Speaker 2: that chuckle?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 8: The man have an old chuckle on. So from the Ravens.

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Speaker 7: So Gary passed his physical clearly, Yes he did so

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Speaker 7: that I mean, I don't know about you guys.

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Speaker 2: We talked, we touched on it, a little bit. I

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Speaker 7: You know, look, we were looking for the Cowboys a

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Speaker 7: free agency to make some splashes. You know, it may

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Speaker 5: They got more moves to make.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 6: They sure handed him the keys to the organization. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 6: not only with what they signed, but what they ended

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Speaker 8: By the way, I thought Garry was a hell of

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Speaker 8: a sign. I really did. I look at it on

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Speaker 8: a little bit higher level than that, because you're looking

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Speaker 8: at a player that can't just do one thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I look forward to him setting their edge. That's oh absolutely,

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Speaker 8: that's something that we want around here. He's going to

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Speaker 8: that guy. So as far as I'm concerned, that was

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Speaker 8: a huge sign that puts us, you know, on the

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Speaker 8: road to having the pieces we need. At least. This

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Speaker 6: He will play the run, yes, and he can do both.

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Speaker 6: He can be on the outside in a three four,

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Speaker 6: five Nickel. I thought that was key and those that's

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Speaker 6: what we're renting, and that's what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is and I saw a really misleading headline,

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Speaker 6: maybe it was NFL dot Com that he took a

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Speaker 6: pay cut. He took thirteen million dollars sighting bonus that

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Speaker 6: he had no guaranteed money left on his Packers contract.

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Speaker 6: So he got paid thirteen point two million and sixteen

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Speaker 6: million guaranteed when he had no more guarantees. So the

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Speaker 6: restructure helped out the Cowboys, and it dropped his cap

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Speaker 6: hit from nineteen point five million to five point four

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Speaker 5: So kind of like the Terrence Steele, Yes, you do.

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Speaker 6: Exactly guaranteed money counts now, I would imagine you would

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Speaker 5: If you don't agree to that, then you're on the

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Speaker 8: Probably.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I thought that was another key part. And

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Speaker 6: he looked happy to be here. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: you saw the picture on dallascowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 5: Interview with Nicole Hutchinson as well.

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Speaker 6: Big Grin when he was signing or whatever he had

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Speaker 5: And if you got thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Frowning Grin is coming out with you.

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Speaker 6: You went home to Mama with thirteen million dollars. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I thought I thought it was significant. And you know,

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Speaker 6: the last three years with twenty almost twenty five sacks.

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Speaker 6: But he'll play the run.

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Speaker 8: And that's that's what I like about it. You got

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Speaker 8: a guy that can do both things. We always criticize

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Speaker 8: pauses about that. Now he's green Bay's headache or whatever

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Speaker 8: you want to call it, and now we have the

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Speaker 8: guy that is the most solid in what he does. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: this is the guy we're looking forward.

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Speaker 6: What was everybody saying when they traded Parsons to Green Bay?

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Speaker 6: Oh they got Gary you got to worry about and

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Speaker 6: now Parsons.

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Speaker 5: Right, Basically, what's happening in Green Bay is the same

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Speaker 5: thing that was happening with the Cowboys a year ago.

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Speaker 5: In that Okay, the Cowboys a year ago at this

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Speaker 5: time thought they were signing Michael Parsons, Okay, and so

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Speaker 5: they had to let DeMarcus Lawrence go away. This team

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Speaker 5: but you can't expect a rookie to come in here

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Speaker 5: and do what the law had been doing for a

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Speaker 5: decade here right off the bat, I think I still

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Speaker 5: think Asiaku can become that. Now he's got a hip

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Speaker 5: the Packers are sitting there with Parsons under contract and

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Speaker 5: they got to let their d law go in Rashaw

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Speaker 5: Gary No.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's a great point, and I think right

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Speaker 7: now for the Cowboys as it relates to depth, they're

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Speaker 7: still in the need there. I mean, Donovan is a roco.

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Speaker 7: In his first season, he showed flashes, but you know,

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Speaker 7: to be beyond right. And can you bet the house

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Speaker 8: So are we going with veterans here? I mean, do

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Speaker 8: Something that's right the back, that's the quarter back, right, yeah.

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Speaker 6: And that's what you're looking for now. I don't know

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Speaker 6: If that's what that starts off at that, I think

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Speaker 8: So what do we look at that?

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Speaker 5: Because Levonte David, he's gonna he's deciding whether he's going

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Speaker 8: I didn't know he was injury prom.

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Speaker 7: I've gotten comforted.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotten comfortable on the outside. So you know

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Speaker 7: But I think I thought that was a very interesting

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Speaker 7: signing for Kobe Durant because I don't think he'll go

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Speaker 6: He's got the size to go inside.

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Speaker 8: He does any small right.

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Speaker 6: And that's what chip on his shoulder because he's like

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Speaker 6: So and Thompson can go and play in the slot

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Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson, and then you got PJ Lock also.

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Speaker 6: played sixteen games. The other part about it, he's a

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, if you look at at the slot position,

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Speaker 8: In the That's putting awful lot on somebody that you

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Speaker 6: They must have because he was one of their early signings.

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Speaker 5: And they prioritized him with his money. Yeah, Thompson can't

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Speaker 6: Matter of fact, one head of one of those appearances

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Speaker 8: Just wrote about.

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Speaker 5: Okay, good to know we were talking about Cowboys new

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Speaker 5: members of the secondary.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I like about him, and

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Speaker 5: I think I talked about it last week that they

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Speaker 5: needed Everson Walls types in that secondary and that means versatility,

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Speaker 5: not just that, not that, not just playmaking ability, but

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Speaker 5: it's between the ears. It's cerebral players. And I think

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Speaker 5: that they that they have prioritized that. And familiarity with

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Speaker 5: scheme is another thing. In the case of PJ. Locke

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Speaker 5: especially and with Jalen Thompson to coach by the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: new secondary coach Cornerbacks coach Ryan Smith in Arizona, but PJ.

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Speaker 5: Lock was with Christian Parker in Denver. He was first

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Speaker 5: when he signed with Denver as a college free agent

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Speaker 5: out of Texas in twenty nineteen. That was Vic Fangio's

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Speaker 5: first year there, so he's in Fangio's system. And then

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Speaker 5: even after Fangio was gone, Parker was still there and

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Speaker 5: then here the last couple of years as well. And

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Speaker 5: so if you just listen to PJ. Lock in his

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Speaker 5: interview with Nicole Hutcheson, I'm like, Yeah, that's the guy

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Speaker 5: that I won on my team.

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Speaker 8: It's not just smart guys when it comes to the

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Speaker 8: past defens You know, he's talking about players that they

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Speaker 8: know how to coordinate. That's what you mean, baxt secondary,

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Speaker 8: that's the last line of defense right there. You got

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Speaker 8: smart guys back there. It means you're not going to

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Speaker 8: give a bunch of big plays.

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Speaker 5: Making sure you look, teammates are lined up in the

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Speaker 5: right spot everything.

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Speaker 8: How many times those especially those safeties corner backs you

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Speaker 8: go over there, you do your tay. But I think

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Speaker 8: my safeties need to be the most vocal defensively and.

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Speaker 6: With experience, which is key. That's how you get the knowledge, right,

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Speaker 6: you don't have a bunch of young guys there. Oh

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Speaker 6: we got to play this guy. We have no other choice, right,

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Speaker 6: And so yeah, I think they've covered themselves pretty well

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Speaker 6: there now.

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Speaker 7: And what I love about it, based off of just

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Speaker 7: piggybacking off what you just said, was proven guys, you know,

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Speaker 7: proven guys with versatility as you're talking about, guys that

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Speaker 7: can do more than just one thing, right, And I

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Speaker 7: think that Christian Parker, without even knowing what it's going

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Speaker 7: to actually look like, to have a concept of his defense.

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Speaker 7: You know, this word has been overused, being multiple guys,

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Speaker 7: being able to fit in different places, I mean, and

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Speaker 7: the guys that we still have on the roster and

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Speaker 7: how they fit into that defense. So look, I think

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Speaker 7: it's going to be OTA's training camp all of those things. Man,

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Speaker 7: You're going to start to see, especially a guy like

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Speaker 7: Jalen Thompson and his versatility, how important he's going to be,

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Speaker 7: Like you said, really the last line of the defense.

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Speaker 7: And then don't forget you still have Malik Hooker, who

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Speaker 7: I think no one's really talked about it. I think

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Speaker 7: even with the safeties that they brought in, Malik Hooker

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Speaker 7: is just one track mind when it comes down to it,

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Speaker 7: because he realizes that he can flourish in the defense.

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Speaker 8: Well, I like what they're what they're trying to do

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Speaker 8: in the in the secondary, but I still want to

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Speaker 8: know what's going on in the slot. That's gonna be,

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Speaker 8: to me, the most important position in the secondary. Especially

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Speaker 8: we're talking about passing downs and that's where everybody's going to.

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Speaker 8: You're going to the three wide receivers. We got to

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Speaker 8: have that guy in there. I don't know who that's

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Speaker 8: gonna be, uh, but we need we have.

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Speaker 5: I think they're covering themselves on it with guys that

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Speaker 5: they're signing in free agency who can play in the slot.

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Speaker 8: And they gotta they happen. We got we got our guys.

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Speaker 8: They gotta have experience. They got to have experience.

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Speaker 6: I want to Thompson's got experience, Durance got experience. Uh.

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Speaker 6: And I think that they are in better shape there.

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Speaker 5: And think about it, and you get Dylan into the draft.

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Speaker 7: Come on, what's it called the white rhino Rhino? Look,

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Speaker 7: I've been I've been waiting to ask you about this, Mickey,

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Speaker 7: because you have been the biggest Sam Williams fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm choking when I say that too.

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Speaker 6: No, I have been, but Sam, ways, I'm still waiting.

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Speaker 7: So when you saw that they resigned Sam to the

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Speaker 7: one year, three million dollar deal, what what did that

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Speaker 7: signify to you from though?

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Speaker 6: To me it was depth and taking a low level

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Speaker 6: chance on him finally figuring it out right, And it.

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Speaker 5: Is a base of two point five million, right.

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Speaker 6: So uh, you know, we overlook it. He was coming

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Speaker 6: back from a torn acl last year, so maybe the

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Speaker 6: next year back now for him if he's playing outside

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Speaker 6: there now he can he's athletic enough to stand up

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Speaker 6: outside and big enough to play that.

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Speaker 5: He's athletic enough to be a gunner on the punch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right. And and the fact that if he just

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Speaker 6: realizes that part of that job is playing the run,

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Speaker 6: can't just be a designated pass rusher.

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Speaker 8: Well, this is gonna be his second year after that surgery, right, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 8: this is the year because last year, this is the year.

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Speaker 8: We gotta have it. We gotta have him this year

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Speaker 8: as as strong as he's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: This is strong not only just coming off the injury

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Speaker 5: and second year back from the U, back from the

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Speaker 5: big also, this is his year for his career that

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Speaker 5: he needs to show something. Yeah, I mean he never

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Speaker 5: as a second round draft pick, he never dissipated. His

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Speaker 5: second contract is going to be what I just said.

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Speaker 5: He's expected more than that and the team was expected

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Speaker 5: more than that too. And now we've got a different scheme.

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Speaker 5: But you look at the depth chart at pass rusher

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Speaker 5: and obviously the Cowboys need more. Okay, even with Rashaan

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Speaker 5: Gary whatever. But it is interesting when you look at

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Speaker 5: Williams and his athleticism and James Houston as a six

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Speaker 5: foot pass rusher in this scheme where even on in

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Speaker 5: the base defense line them up as an outside pass rusher,

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Speaker 5: that it fits more what they can do than being

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Speaker 5: with Sam. I think with both of them, Okay, as

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Speaker 5: far as coming off the edge and getting to the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Sam Williams and not giving him any

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Speaker 7: excuses when he was drafted out of Old Miss he

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Speaker 7: got caught up in the hype of you know, Michael

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Speaker 7: Parsons and you know you guys look alike, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and his thirst for sacks.

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Speaker 7: Also now asking him to do something different than like

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Speaker 7: you said, Bill, you know, this is a prove it

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Speaker 7: kind of year for a young man that's coming off

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Speaker 7: of a major knee surgery. But I think for me,

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Speaker 7: when I look at what his skill set is and

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Speaker 7: how athletic he is, I think he fits this perfectly.

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Speaker 7: And one of the great chances that he'll have if

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Speaker 7: he can shine in that rotation is to you know,

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Speaker 7: obviously set the edge, but also get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I just want to know what kind of confidence he

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Speaker 8: has right now? Boom, you know what's he looking like?

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Speaker 8: How does he feel on this leg?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what, Oh you mean physically, yes,

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Speaker 6: as I was going to say, from a confidence level,

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Speaker 6: he better understand this is it like you're playing for

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Speaker 6: a contract. You're playing to make the team, by the way.

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Speaker 6: So he's got to be able to figure that out.

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Speaker 6: And he can't be a knucklehead off the field, so

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Speaker 6: this is key to him. I can't tell you how

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Speaker 6: many times when the season was starting and I go, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this is the guy that's got a click, right, he's

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Speaker 6: he's on the verge, and then in do it. And

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Speaker 6: then the next year I go, okay, I'm doubling down,

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Speaker 6: and then he to as a sum So now let's see,

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Speaker 6: but at least from a depth standpoint, they got somebody

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Speaker 6: and as Bill said, very inexpensively.

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Speaker 5: Okay, a week ago, when we looked at the interior

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Speaker 5: defensive line depth chart on this team, it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: they've got no need at all because they've got plenty

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Speaker 5: of guys that can play defensive tackle. Okay, from Quinn

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Speaker 5: Williams to Kenny Clark to Osa Digazooa to Solomon Thomas

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Speaker 5: to Perry and Winfrey. The list goes on and on,

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Speaker 5: and Jay Toya And now you've traded Osa Digazua for

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Speaker 5: a third round pick, You've traded Solomon Thomas to Tennessee

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Speaker 5: to move up seven spots in the seventh round, you

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Speaker 5: release Perry and Winfrey, and now owl, when I was

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Speaker 5: dismissing defensive tackles in the draft, don't do it.

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Speaker 8: And now.

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Speaker 2: That page again, it's on the back. It's all the

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Speaker 2: way on the back.

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Speaker 5: Of that will But there it's funny. How do you

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Speaker 5: just make a few moves there? And now you got

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Speaker 5: to need a defensive tackle too?

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Speaker 6: Well, if you look at it, if you're going to

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Speaker 6: be in a three.

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Speaker 5: Four and you have added Otito.

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Speaker 6: Right, who immediately at this point is your nose tackle

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Speaker 6: in the three four right.

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Speaker 7: Based off of his size, he can't go anywhere else.

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Speaker 7: But he I mean, he could flex out too, but

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Speaker 7: you then he.

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Speaker 8: Can't say at the head he's a big old din.

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Speaker 8: He come around the corner, he's a no.

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Speaker 6: But that's what it shows you.

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Speaker 5: It shows you what they're looking for in up front

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Speaker 5: on this defensive mind, and what they're not looking for

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Speaker 5: are the two hundred and eighty pound defensive tackles meaning

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Speaker 5: OsO Digazura, Solomon Thomas.

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Speaker 6: That's what I wrote about on Friday. Size matters in

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Speaker 6: this defense I need and if I'm playing a three

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Speaker 6: to four, those quote unquote defensive ends are not defensive ends.

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Speaker 6: They're big defensive tackle. So you got Williams here, Clark here,

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Speaker 6: O Tito maybe in the and then Jay Toya, who

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Speaker 6: by the way, is still three hundred and forty pounds

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Speaker 6: and he was a seventh.

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Speaker 5: Round Sorry, So Bonya and Toya are your right noses.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and okay, let's go play. But who's behind those guys.

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 6: And they don't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And the three four defense, like I said, man,

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Speaker 7: this defense is going to eat defensive linemen. You're gonna

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Speaker 7: have to have those guys in the rotation. But we

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Speaker 7: talked about this week's ago guys, and I was saying

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Speaker 7: that it looks like Osay is the odd man out,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of people argue with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, he could play, and he could do.

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Speaker 7: This, but you knew that size was gonna matter in

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Speaker 7: this situation. And obviously Christian Parker has he's letting you

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Speaker 7: know by the moves that being made. But now all

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Speaker 7: of a sudden, Bill, like you said, it's scarce because

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Speaker 7: the positions that you've let go now in free agency,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's not many three four D tackles left

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Speaker 7: out there. And then you're going to also have to

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Speaker 7: attack this through the draft. So man, it's still a

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Speaker 7: lot to cover in a very short period of time.

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Speaker 8: How many picks do we have in the draft?

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Speaker 6: Eight eight?

660
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Speaker 2: Well, it just picked up a second.

661
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Speaker 5: Well he picked up a third. Okay, I believe a

662
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 5: top one hundred picks. You got three, You've got twelve

663
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Speaker 5: twenty and ninety two, which was the pick you picked

664
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Speaker 5: up from San Francisco, which number ninety two overall, and.

665
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Speaker 6: Then you've got one in the fourth, three in the fifth,

666
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 6: and one in the seventh. That's moved up to the

667
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: number two pick in the seventh with that exchange.

668
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Speaker 5: So yeah, and by the way, I'd like to say

669
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 5: this about Solomon Thomas. I mean, he was a Walter

670
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 5: Payton Man of the Year nominee from the Cowboys, and

671
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 5: what a guy that you want to have on your

672
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: football team, especially when you consider what this team went

673
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: through last year, and of course Solomon's background with his sister.

674
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Speaker 6: And.

675
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Speaker 5: There was a very valuable year that Solomon spent here

676
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Speaker 5: and I think that the Cowboys did him a justice

677
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: and did him well by moving him to Tennessee. And

678
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: I think it shows what kind of respect that the

679
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 5: Cowboys have for Solomon Thomas where he now hooks back

680
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 5: up with Aaron Whitecotton and Robert Sola, who he's played

681
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 5: for before, And that was simply a move of we're

682
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: taking care of Solomon because he's a guy that you

683
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 5: want to take care of.

684
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Speaker 6: And at those two positions, they went from two hundred

685
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 6: and eighty pounds if you're going to play a three

686
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 6: to four to three hundred and ten pounds. That's the

687
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: difference because those defensive ends, it's a misnomer. They're not

688
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 6: defensive ends, right, They're just the outside guys from the

689
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: nose tackle. Then you've got to have the versatile linebackers

690
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 6: to play in that three four. But this reinforces that.

691
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 6: I think I said it earlier. They've given the keys

692
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 6: to this place to Christian Parker because he's designing this

693
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 6: what he wants upfront, and he wants bigger guys and

694
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 6: so okay, here you go. But again you still have

695
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 6: to and and the bigger guys Williams along with Clark

696
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 6: can play on a nickel as too defensive tackles and

697
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 6: provide pass rush but bigger size. So that's what they've achieved,

698
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: and they're trusting his evaluation of guys up front.

699
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 8: Now what he wants to do, well, he's seen some

700
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 8: of the best defensive ends in football from what he

701
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 8: was just coaching, So I don't know if he'll have

702
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 8: that kind of talent, you know, up and down the.

703
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 5: Line, because that was Jordan Davis.

704
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, they better go raide Georgia's locker room because you know.

705
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 5: You had look for Georgia players.

706
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 8: You had you had the luxury, you had a big

707
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 8: luxury there with just those two guys off the line,

708
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 8: but you still got Quinn Williams. Yeah, there was no

709
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 8: doubt about it. Yeah, there was no doubt about it.

710
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 8: But a lot more went with that Philadelphia team than

711
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 8: just what was on that defense.

712
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 5: That's why Georgia defensive tackle Kristen Miller, Okay, put him

713
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: on your rate in the draft.

714
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 8: What's he executed to go.

715
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 5: In one pounds?

716
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: All right? I love him already.

717
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 7: I love him already speaking my language, you know, big

718
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 7: and ready.

719
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah got even ranked as a forty first player

720
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 5: on his top fifty and.

721
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Speaker 7: So, yeah, and Mickey for me, man, when I coming

722
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 7: off of last season, you obviously stayed in the obvious

723
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 7: she's so bad defense. You know you're gonna have to

724
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 7: get rid of players. We talked about that ever since.

725
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 7: He were talking about packaging up five or six guys

726
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 7: to get new players in here to make this defense better.

727
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 7: And that was even before they moved off of ebra Flus.

728
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 7: You knew you were gonna have to make wholesale changes.

729
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 7: And so I'm just appreciating the fact that that's been

730
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 7: recognized and they're not going off of hope. You know,

731
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 7: I hope this guy gets better. No, I'm not gonna

732
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 7: even wait for this guy to get better. He does

733
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: he doesn't fit our system. Let's go ahead and get

734
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 7: him out of here, and let's find a guy that

735
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 7: we know that can play. And all the great things

736
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 7: that we say about guys, I mean, we lost some

737
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 7: high character players and Solomon Thomas and Osa Diggi Zor,

738
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 7: but how do you replace that with guys that can

739
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 7: absolutely help you in this scheme?

740
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: Right?

741
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 7: We know what's going to be asked of a player

742
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 7: in this three four defense. And so again the rotation

743
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 7: that you're gonna have to put with Quinn Williams and

744
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 7: Kenny Clark, these guys are gonna have to get spelled

745
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 7: at some point. And right now, I don't think you

746
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 7: believe that you have the depth behind them right now.

747
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 8: So right now we need we need depth. We need

748
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 8: to understand the mixture of veterans versus the draft picks

749
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Speaker 8: that we're going to have. So you know what are

750
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 8: we're looking at here? We're going to have to have

751
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 8: a group of guys. Is that the leadership going to

752
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 8: come from the youth or is the leadership going to

753
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 8: come from the veterans that we signed the free agency?

754
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 6: Well, I think that what you signed in free agency

755
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 6: has to stand out, stand up, take leadership charge. And

756
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 6: I think with the off season workouts, those guys have

757
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 6: an opportunity to immerse themselves into this team, because if

758
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: you think about it, going into last year, everybody was

759
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 6: sitting there waiting for Micah Parsons to come back, right,

760
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 6: and he didn't come back. And so now you've got

761
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 6: an opportunity in the off season to step up and

762
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 6: do things. And I think that's vitally important for the

763
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 6: composure of this one.

764
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Speaker 8: Whoever it is, they're going to be a newbie.

765
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're talking about leadership and where now linebacker position?

766
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, Sam Samon.

767
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 5: Will you know over shown's got leadership capabilities, you.

768
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 6: Know, and he will actually have an off season to

769
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 6: develop as a player instead of rehabbing.

770
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Speaker 8: Right, that's the two years that we're always talking about.

771
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 8: To me, it's always this two year window, the first

772
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 8: year after surgery. You just from what I've seen, the

773
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 8: what's trending in the NFL these years is the first

774
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 8: year coming back, you're not going to be full stress.

775
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 6: And think about him. He came back in November, right, November.

776
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 5: Which is crazy, you know. I said it last week

777
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 5: that okay, okay, I think he just fits perfect with

778
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: what you're talking about. And from the stand point that

779
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that you can't take a linebacker. It

780
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that you can't go get Sunny styles too,

781
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 5: you know, or CJ. Allen or whoever you At this point,

782
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 5: you want to get your team in a position where

783
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 5: you can win games before the draft, where you can

784
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: go out before you even make a pick on draft day,

785
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 5: you can win games with your defense, and then you

786
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: can do whatever you want to in the draft. You

787
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 5: don't have to go for need, you can't don't have

788
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 5: to over spend to go get somebody. But and there's

789
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 5: enough with sub packages and ever, there's plenty of opportunity

790
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: for a first round linebacker to get on the field,

791
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 5: even if you have a veteran guy like Ocara Kay

792
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: alongside and overshown as you're inside linebackers, plenty of opportunities.

793
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: You know, it dawned on me and Bill can reinforce this.

794
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 6: But the last time they tried to switch from a

795
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: four to three to three four was in two thousand

796
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 6: and five. And they've got very fortunate in the draft,

797
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 6: one of the best drafts they ever had, right because

798
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 6: you ended up with DeMarcus ware Marcus Spears, So Marcus

799
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 6: Spears one as your defensive splash. And in the three four,

800
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 6: and then in the fourth round they had insider information

801
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 6: on Chris Canty, who would have been a first round

802
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 6: draft choice. He suffered an eye injury while he was

803
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 6: training for the draft, and then all of a sudden,

804
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: well there's my other defensive end. And then in the

805
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 6: seventh round, nobody understood where Jay Ratliffe was going to play.

806
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: Is he a defensive tackle, a defensive end? Is he

807
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 6: nose tackle? What is he? Well he ended up being

808
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 6: a four time Pro bowler at nose tackle. So all

809
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 6: of a sudden you restructured your defensive front along with

810
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 6: bringing in where and to his discontent, they moved Greg

811
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: Ellis from a defensive end, you know, four to three

812
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 6: to an outside linebacker and he hated it, and he

813
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: ended up earning his only Pro Bowl out there.

814
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 8: As he hated. He hated.

815
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 5: And by the way, in the second round, they drafted

816
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: Kevin Burnett Tennessee, who, if not for an injury, would

817
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: have had a long career there.

818
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 6: And he was one of your inside inside backers.

819
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: Man, what a luxury that is? I mean?

820
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 7: And then you strike gold like that at every yeah

821
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 7: much every last one.

822
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, Marion Barber was in that.

823
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: Draft fourth also Marion Barber striking gold.

824
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 7: And I think over the last couple of years, one

825
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 7: of the complaints has been, Man, the draft class not

826
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 7: being able to strike gold?

827
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Was it? It's also was what from twenty was twenty

828
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: one third third ground? Yeah, in twenty one.

829
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 7: That whole draft class is gone now, So I thought

830
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 7: that was, you know, being able to strike gold. Get

831
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 7: guys that you know when you talk about DeMarcus where,

832
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 7: I mean, come on, man, that's Hall of Famer.

833
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Is just that book wrote itself.

834
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 8: Nathan Frisco says, will these guys be? Will these guys

835
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 8: practice and build unity? Unity has a lot to play

836
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 8: in this game. Guys cohesiveness, And that's kind of what

837
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 8: I was talking about. Whoever you bring in. I mean

838
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 8: this he's they're gonna.

839
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Speaker 5: Be new here and you're talking about off season.

840
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I want the I want I want this

841
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 8: guy to come in and be ready to the program.

842
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 8: Part of the program. So that's good. That's what he's

843
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 8: talking about.

844
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: And that's the theme with him. Man, are they will

845
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: they practice?

846
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 7: You don't want to hear about this guy being on

847
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 7: the sidelines and you know rehab it is this guy

848
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 7: going to be ready to go right away? And look,

849
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 7: that's one of those things that's been a buggaboo for

850
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 7: us as a well.

851
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 6: The only guy that shouldn't be ready in the off

852
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 6: seasons as a rocker who haven't had the laboring surgery

853
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 6: on his hip, so he's probably gonna missed the majority

854
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 6: of the off season. But I don't worry about him,

855
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 6: his character, his work ethic. You know he'll get ready

856
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 6: as soon as he can do it. And you shouldn't

857
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 6: have anybody defensively holding out for a contract.

858
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 7: Can I want to ask question guys because we spend

859
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 7: a lot of time talking defense, and I hope this

860
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: will cause a fight on the show. Tyler Smith all

861
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 7: pro guard. I'm looking at the depth chart here. They

862
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 7: haven't listed at left tackle.

863
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: Let's turn this into a tease.

864
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I knew that.

865
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 5: Tyler what to do on the offensive line. When Mixed

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Speaker 2: Look, here's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: You know, I know that you know going into the

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Speaker 7: all of those things, we've been teasing it over the years.

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Speaker 7: It kind of goes back to when we had Micah

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Speaker 7: We toyed with it for years and look, you resigned

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Speaker 7: Terrence Steele you show up, you show up. Basically you

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Speaker 7: keep him. But staying status quo on this offensive line,

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Speaker 7: especially where Dak Prescott is in his career, is that

942
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Speaker 7: in Matt Hennessy to you know, and center guard, flex

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Speaker 7: whatever he's going to.

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Speaker 5: Be basically replaces Brock Kaufman.

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Speaker 7: Okay, and then and then you know TJ. Bass if

947
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Speaker 7: he's on this roster, he's going to be your guard.

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Speaker 7: So do you feel like by moving him out to

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Speaker 7: if you do elect to move Tyalas Smith out to

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Speaker 7: left tackle, would that be weakening yourself at two positions

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Speaker 7: by doing that? Or do you think you obviously make

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Speaker 7: this offensive line better by making him a left tackle

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Speaker 7: and just making this decision and just saying, look, this

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Speaker 7: is what we're going to do going into the season.

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Speaker 6: I would think it weakens you at guard. It might

956
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Speaker 6: improve you at tackle. But I think they've got to

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Speaker 6: see it through in the off season and the early

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Speaker 6: part of training camp to give Guiton a chance to

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Speaker 6: prove he's improved and can handle that left tackle position.

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Speaker 8: And we've gotten it's not just you know, availability, it's penalties.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's bad on discipline right now. So his

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Speaker 8: you three has been shown to be his weakness almost

963
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Speaker 8: every time he plays. I mean I like the aggressiveness,

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Speaker 8: but I mean you can't just go out to you know,

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Speaker 8: with a knife in your back pocket. You know, this

966
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Speaker 8: guy he's coming out there, he's not playing football. Sometimes

967
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Speaker 8: he's coming out there just you know, he has the aggressiveness.

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Speaker 8: I get that, but it has to be placed justifyship.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I think third year, you're no

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Speaker 6: longer a first round draft choice. You can't judge him

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Speaker 6: that way. Where well I spent her first. I got

972
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Speaker 6: to give him, you know, benefit of the doubt. I

973
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Speaker 6: think you got to go and if you can't, then

974
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Speaker 6: you have to make that move because that left tackle

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Speaker 6: position is vitally important.

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Speaker 8: I agree with so many injuries last year in the NFL,

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Speaker 8: and I think most injuries, the most important injuries came

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Speaker 8: from the offensive line on almost every team.

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Speaker 2: So Detroit right a team key here, I mean we.

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Speaker 8: Have offensive then the offensive line of third stream coming

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Speaker 8: up in practicing and.

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Speaker 6: Play fourth or fifth round. I think they got to

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Speaker 6: take an offensive lineman offensive tackle, right. You gotta have

984
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Speaker 6: a developmental guy now, and that's what do you think

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Speaker 6: of Nate Thomas. Was he in over his head and

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Speaker 6: didn't have enough experience? Can you still work with them?

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Speaker 6: But I think you have another developmental guy that you

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Speaker 6: got to have so somewhere in that area, either a

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Speaker 7: And I completely agree when you say you got to

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Speaker 7: put the fact that he's a first round draft pick

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Speaker 7: because look, this is a proven situation for him. They

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Speaker 7: haven't they haven't gotten it as far as the production

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Speaker 7: from him. And look, I look at Tyler Smith. I

996
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Speaker 7: love his game. I know coming out of Tulsa he

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Speaker 7: was a tackle. They moved him inside the guard and

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Speaker 7: what does he do turns that into an all Pro career?

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Speaker 7: And that he's solid? Yeah, And you know, with Tyler

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Speaker 7: Booker and what you have up front and even Cooper

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Speaker 7: BB in the front, you felt like that part of

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Speaker 7: your offensive line was really strong in the middle. But

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Speaker 7: goodness gracious, you know what you you have to protect

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have it.

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Speaker 7: And if that is even a question in your mind

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Speaker 7: going into the season, you got to make the move.

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Speaker 7: You can't just stay status quote and left.

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Speaker 6: Tackle, and even if he earns it, then who's my

1010
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Speaker 6: backup there? Because you if it's not Nate Thomas, you

1011
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Speaker 6: don't have it.

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Speaker 8: You gotta have some depth. Guys.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like y'all want to draft him first round off

1014
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Speaker 5: left tackle?

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Speaker 8: No, no, and definitely not a guard, right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, oh, it's not that important, but he better be

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Speaker 6: able to play tackle, which, by the way, Tyler Smith did, is.

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Speaker 5: What you got do we who's the backup quarterback on

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Speaker 5: this team?

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Speaker 2: I think it's Sam Howe.

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Speaker 6: Some it's up for competition.

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Speaker 5: That was another signing on the offensive side of the football.

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Speaker 5: Sam Howe one year.

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Speaker 6: Two point five million.

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Speaker 2: Boy, this things got hot around here real quick, didn't it.

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Speaker 2: They got hot? And he's real fast.

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Speaker 6: He's got eighteen starts under his belt.

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Speaker 5: Really started started a full season Washington.

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Speaker 6: Washington, so at least he's done that. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: I don't think you could sit there and go, okay,

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Speaker 6: well I traded for this guy. He's my backup. I

1032
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Speaker 6: think he's got to be. Milton's got to step up

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Speaker 6: and show that he's earned that job. Now hand it

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Speaker 6: to him.

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Speaker 7: You know, backup quarterback is one of those positions. That

1036
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Speaker 7: you don't even want to talk about. But then yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know, you don't even want that my person's name

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Speaker 7: to come, right, you don't want to, But then when

1039
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Speaker 7: you need it, you wanted to be a guy that's quality.

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Speaker 7: And I think we were really last season. You know

1041
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Speaker 7: it was it was az you know, seventeen for Dak

1042
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Speaker 7: and we didn't have to see Joe Milton thrust into action.

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Speaker 7: But if we do, there's the trust factor there. And

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Speaker 7: I think when they acquired Sam Howe, that's what I said.

1045
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Speaker 7: I'm like, man, it's maybe just a trust factor and

1046
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Speaker 7: insurance policy for the organization.

1047
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Speaker 8: Does he have a connection here at all with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see one. He didn't play at all last

1049
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Speaker 6: year Philadelphia last year, right, right, But he was in

1050
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Speaker 6: Philly last year.

1051
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Speaker 5: You know, he was highly talented Christian coming out of

1052
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Speaker 5: high school and then at North Carolina it was a

1053
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Speaker 5: full time starter there for three years. And you know

1054
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Speaker 5: the thing about Milton is much like Trey Lance is

1055
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Speaker 5: he just didn't have very many snaps in college. I mean,

1056
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Speaker 5: he started his career at Michigan, then wound up at Tennessee.

1057
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Speaker 5: He won the starting job at Tennessee, then got hurt. Whatever.

1058
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Speaker 5: But I went back and looked over the last five years,

1059
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Speaker 5: let's say, which includes college as well as the NFL.

1060
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Speaker 5: Sam Howe has eleven hundred and seventeen pass attempts and

1061
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Speaker 5: Milton has six hundred and forty nine. He's got twice

1062
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Speaker 5: as many snaps. It's what Milton has over the last

1063
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Speaker 5: five years. Last year, which counts counts as one year

1064
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Speaker 5: starting in the NFL, and then what he did in college.

1065
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Speaker 5: He's a two year starter at North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: You know, it occurred to me last year, had something

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Speaker 6: happened to Dak, say he missed two games, would Will

1068
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Speaker 6: Greer been promoted to be the starter? Or were they

1069
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Speaker 6: going to trust Milton?

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Speaker 8: They were going to trust Milton the trust they were

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Speaker 8: going to trust Milton. Come on, you know Grim was good.

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Speaker 8: But I hadn't. I hadn't even seen him play. I

1073
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Speaker 8: mean he had even even in the off season. I'm like,

1074
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Speaker 8: not impressed. I know, so I'm not the preseason, preseason,

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Speaker 8: I'm not impressed.

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Speaker 5: So I thought that the Cowboys need should have taken

1077
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Speaker 5: one of the late round court once those quarterbacks who

1078
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Speaker 5: had all had a lot of college starting experience, sixth

1079
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Speaker 5: or seventh rounds. I thought they should have taken one

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Speaker 5: of them last year in the draft, just to have

1081
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Speaker 5: them in the building whatever, and have them be the

1082
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1083
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Speaker 5: where they already had Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, who

1084
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Speaker 5: was the fourth pick in the draft, and then they

1085
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Speaker 5: and now you look at their situation. Actually, Leonard looked

1086
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Speaker 5: pretty good in the last couple of games of the

1087
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Speaker 5: year last year, and now Anthony Richardson's on the trade block,

1088
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Speaker 5: and basically Riley Leonard is going to be Daniel Jones backup.

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Speaker 6: If Daniel Jones is ready to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he better be.

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Speaker 6: He just got paid, I know, but he's still coming

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Speaker 6: off that a torn achilles.

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Speaker 7: Well, they felt that was surprising. Man, a guy like

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones. Danny Dimes, Is that his name, Danny Dimes?

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Speaker 5: And then speaking of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 8: Why you could just give a nickname to anybody that's

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Speaker 8: his nickname?

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Speaker 7: You, Okay, a person can yeah, Danny Dimes. Man, Hey,

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Speaker 7: we thought he was all done in New York and

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Speaker 7: now next thing you know, he's resurfacing.

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Speaker 2: Then he's a new man.

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Speaker 5: About Kyler Murray, a new man in Minnesota. What do

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00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 5: you think ever soon?

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Speaker 8: I think Kyler's gonna take that job. I really do.

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: If he does not, be shocked.

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be shocked if he didn't take that job,

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00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 7: you know, with the weapons that they have, and look,

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 7: it'd be one of those situations, just like we were

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00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 7: talking about Sam Williams. I think they got Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 7: attention by getting cut. I mean, I think probably thought

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00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 7: that was the last thing for him. Is He's been

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Speaker 7: a superstar his whole life and now.

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00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: He had Would you rather play for Minnesota or Arizona.

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: I'd rather play for Minnesota exactly. Yeah. I think you

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00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: have better weapons.

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00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 6: Got this wide receiver out there.

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Speaker 8: I thought maybe you're gonna talking weather.

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that Tina wants to win.

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Speaker 2: He had Marvin Harrison. Guys, let's not step op of

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison there. He made us pay.

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Speaker 7: I like, Michael, Yeah, yeah, you don't you do that?

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Speaker 7: He baked uskedus. Didn't hear from him ember again. It

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Speaker 7: was all over after that in.

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Speaker 5: One game, Yeah, only game Kobe Brisset one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, him and Marvin going away, going away?

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Speaker 2: That was all right?

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Speaker 6: Did we talk about everybody yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 5: I think so. Tyrus Wheat and we didn't talk about

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Speaker 5: Tyrus Wheat.

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Speaker 6: Jayleen Talbrt leaving, he's in Miami, Juanier Thomas coach, Jayla left.

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Speaker 5: Jayleen's gone, Yep, Miami.

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Speaker 8: God bless him, God bless them all. Right.

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Speaker 5: I think that takes care of it. So we'll see

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Speaker 5: what changes are in store this week. I think there's

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Speaker 5: more on the horizon and we will talk. Oh yeah,

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 5: who got win in the National Championship.

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Speaker 2: I got Houston, Houston.

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Speaker 8: That's a good one. I like you.

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Speaker 5: You like Houston, You like Houston.

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Speaker 6: I like Sampson. Yeah, wow, we got three Houston. No,

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, I like Missouri Michigan.

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Speaker 5: You know what I did you watch thee and I

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01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 5: know all of time Supreme.

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Speaker 8: I thought somebody's gonna say, dude, did.

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Speaker 5: You see Arizona? Ioways stayed on Friday night. Wow, if

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Speaker 5: that's a Final four game, it would be one of

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Speaker 5: the greatest Final four. It was a big twelve semi final.

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Speaker 5: The last four minutes of that game, I went back,

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Speaker 5: I was going and my wife and I were watching.

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Speaker 5: We're going wow.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just one basket after another. The last four

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Speaker 5: minutes of that game, those two teams combined to go

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Speaker 5: eleven out of thirteen from the field, seven for seven

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Speaker 5: on threes. And so I immediately have Arizona and Iowa's

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Speaker 5: State as two of my final four teas playing each

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Speaker 5: other in the semifinal. And I got Florida.

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Speaker 6: Repeating, and he went on the air saying that that's.

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Speaker 5: Right, all right, that does it. So that's who you

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Speaker 5: will not win, will not make it to the final four.

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Speaker 5: All right. We'll talk at you again Monday at eleven

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