1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: It's a Monday in February of twenty twenty, which means 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: it's a couple of weeks before the coronavirus outbreak is 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: going to bring the nation to a halt. But right now, 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: we are deep inside the state of Mississippi, near the 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: town of Carthage, and we've come here to meet a 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: group of watermelon immigrants who have just finished up an 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: English class. By the time we got there, class had 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: just been dismissed, but people were mingling outside, surrounded by plain, 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: single story buildings. We approached two women and I can 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: hear that they're speaking mum. It's a century's old Mayan language, 11 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: and so it's pretty surreal to be hearing it right 12 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: here in the heart of Mississippi. Wow, do you understand 13 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: it all? One of the women, Faddika, has her daughter 14 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: with her. Fiddika is not her real name, by the way. 15 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: She has a case pending with immigration. Her daughter has 16 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: a long, black ponytail, and she's curious but also a 17 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: little shy, and I'm immediately impressed by her talent. She's 18 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: tri lingual. You wait a second, you're you're like a 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: queen here. So how old are you? 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: Twelve? 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: You're twelve. 22 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: So you speak and just speak and little English. 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: You speak English, you speak Spanish and mom and mom. 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Faddika and her daughter came to Mississippi from what they're undocumented, 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: and they're not the only ones. Over the past twenty years, 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the undocumented immigrant population in the state of Mississippi has doubled. 27 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: So what do you think about Mississippi? You'd like to hear? 28 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: Yes, you do? Why because I like to go in school. 29 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: Your mom does she work in the chicken pant. 30 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: No, chillhower. He has something in her feet? 31 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, can you show me in signet? Oh 32 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: my goodness, Oh, my goodness. So she's wearing an ankle shackle. 33 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: This is the kind of ankle shackle that immigration authorities 34 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: use to keep track of immigrants once they're released from 35 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: detention and while they wait for their court date. It 36 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: is a plastic ankle shackle, and it is resting on 37 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: her foot right now, and it's leaving a permanent bruise 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: and an indentation. It's black. In Faderika's case, her troubles 39 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: started when she went to one of the area's chicken 40 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: processing plants looking for a job, just as thousands of 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: undocumented workers have done in the last dec There are 42 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: a number of major plants around here in small towns 43 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: such as Morton, Forest, Carthage, and Canton, which are not 44 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: too far from the capital of Mississippi. Jackson Oofia ristado 45 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: in siete de algosto estava vus. 46 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: Isidia. 47 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Hold on a second, are you telling me that you 48 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: so your mom went to look for work at the 49 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: chicken plant and she just happened to be there on 50 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: the day when the raid happened? Is that what happened? 51 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: August seventh, twenty nineteen, the day of the largest single 52 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: state immigration raid in US history. ICE agents on foot 53 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and on helicopters descended onto several poultry plants in small 54 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: towns throughout the region. They arrested hundreds of undocked, invented workers. 55 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Federica happened to be there on that day looking for work, 56 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: but she was arrested to see as if we isidia 57 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: fer a restao ai ruste you didn't even work the. 58 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: No. 59 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Federica was released by immigration authorities, like many others, on 60 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: the day of the raid because she told them she's 61 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a single mother. Several months later, though, she got into 62 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: a car accident, and that accident landed her in the 63 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: hands of immigration authorities again. She believes the local police 64 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: may have been targeting her because they knew that she 65 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: had been released on the day of the raids. 66 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: Signor La Carce. 67 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Immigration agents told her that in order to be released 68 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: and be reunited with her daughter, she'd have to wear 69 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: an ankle shackle. 70 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: Se I. 71 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: See sepone trista visis quo. 72 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: Perfect nothing So Lati Mama. 73 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Is Federica's daughter fears that one day her mother could 74 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: be deported. 75 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: Pain the immigrants, and she goes back in Grandma and 76 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 2: what about you, mm hmm, thanky alone. 77 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna stay here alone? 78 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 79 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Is that what you want? You want to go back 80 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: to Watemala? 81 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to stay here with my mom. 82 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: From Futuro Media It's Latino USA by Maria in Josa. 83 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: One of the many consequences of the COVID nineteen pandemic 84 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: is that everyone has become much more aware of the 85 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: food supply chain. 86 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 6: Now to our nation's food supply, many meat processing plant 87 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 6: workers are now protesting orders to remain on the job. 88 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 6: At least twenty two facilities are currently closed because of 89 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 6: COVID nineteen outbreaks, and some workers are now saying they 90 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 6: will not go back without better testing and safety. 91 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: Measures, and meat packing and processing plants are at the 92 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: center of that chain. Some plants have seen COVID nineteen outbreaks, 93 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: some have even had to shut down, denied a food 94 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: supply chain strained by COVID nineteen. 95 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: It was a bottleneck caused by this whole pandemic. 96 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 7: Now relief, the President says, in the form of his 97 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 7: executive order invoking the Defense Production Act ordering all meat 98 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 7: plants to stay open. 99 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: Employees at meat packing plants were declared essential workers. And 100 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: as it has happened time and again during this pandemic, 101 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: many of these essential workers are Latinos and Latinas. 102 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: The disparity in cases of COVID nineteen in America soaring 103 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 3: among the Hispanic population, working some of the most underappreciated 104 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: but byto jobs in this country. 105 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: There are about fifty chicken processing plants in the state 106 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: of Mississippi. They provide a much needed food supply to 107 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: the country and beyond, but staffing these places is not easy. 108 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Over the decades, many locals have turned to other less 109 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: onerous jobs, and that's why the state is also a 110 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: hub for immigrant workers, many of whom are undocumented. 111 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 6: We begin today's show looking at the fallout from the 112 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: massive raid in Mississippi. 113 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: A year ago. Hundreds of ICE agents arrived at seven 114 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: of these chicken processing plants. They arrested about six hundred 115 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: and eighty workers, many of them fathers and mothers whose 116 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: kids were left behind for days, weeks, or even months. 117 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Some of those who were detained have been deported. There's 118 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: another huge truck. 119 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 8: Last February, six months after the immigration rates, Marie and 120 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 8: I went down to Mississippi. 121 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: That's the voice of Midia Massis. We traveled together pre 122 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: pandemic down to Mississippi to answer one question. 123 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 8: The massive immigration rates that had taken place in the 124 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 8: area had gathered a lot of media attention at the time. 125 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 8: We wanted to know what happens months after when the 126 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 8: news cycle has moved on and the nation is not 127 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 8: paying attention anymore. 128 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: So we just pulled up in front of one of 129 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: the chicken processing plants and, oh my god. So the 130 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: first thing that we did was we drove outside of 131 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: one of those big chicken processing plants in the area. 132 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: And the plant is a big nondescript, white and yellow 133 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: one story building. There's nothing that would indicate that it's 134 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: a poultry plant necessarily, other than. 135 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: The smell. 136 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Like, oh, the smell. What does it smell? 137 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 9: Like? 138 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Chickens and blood? 139 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 8: Like rotten chicken and blood. Verna says, This is Lorni 140 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 8: Kiitos Lewis. She works with a large Latino population that 141 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 8: staffs these plants. She's a community organizer, and she's going 142 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 8: to introduce us to the workers. We're going to meet 143 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 8: while in Mississippi. 144 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what have the workers said to you about the smell? 145 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 10: That it remains in their clothing for days, It's hard 146 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 10: for them to get it off themselves and their skin, 147 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 10: and how stays even in their nostrils when they're not working. 148 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: One of the things you hear the most about working 149 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 8: in these plants is that it's hard. It's physical work, 150 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 8: a few breaks, and even standing outside of the plant, 151 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 8: the smell is difficult to take in. Still, finding Latino 152 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 8: workers doing tough jobs all over the US is no surprise, 153 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 8: but I do wonder how did so many undocumented workers 154 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 8: end up here in Mississippi. 155 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Over the past decades, immigrants from Latin America have taken 156 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: up many of the jobs in the meat packing industry. Nationally, 157 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: immigrants make up more than half of the workforce at 158 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: meat packing plants. Remember, Mississippi is home to dozens of 159 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: chicken processing plants, and the number of plants in that 160 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: state has doubled over the past ten years. 161 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: Uia speak English or No. 162 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: This is for Las USA on NPR. Let's go okay. 163 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: There is one single man who could take some credit 164 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: for the original arrival of Latina and Latin No workers 165 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: in this part of Mississippi. 166 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: I am Louis Kataina, American Chilean American citizen. I hav 167 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: been living here in modern this economy by thirty years. 168 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 8: I first read about Louis Kataina, and while researching for 169 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 8: this reporting trip, we arrived at his house in a 170 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 8: leafy area surrounded by tall trees, about fifty yards away 171 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 8: from a local highway outside of Morton. 172 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: This is Chilean TV. 173 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 8: He welcomes us with the big smile. Inside his living room, 174 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 8: the TV is plasting a Chilean television channel. Catainah came 175 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 8: to the US following his brother, who was the first 176 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 8: one in his family to arrive. 177 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: So I arrived in November the fifth nineteen ninety. 178 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: When he arrived, Louise wasn't able to work as an 179 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: agricultural technician, which was his background in Chile, so instead 180 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: he got a job at a poultry company, b Rogers. 181 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 8: Driving a jack that's one of those vehicles used to 182 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 8: lift palette in factories. You've seen them before. 183 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: Until the plant was very short of people, very short 184 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: of people. They need more workers, and the people from 185 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: here in this area, they didn't want to work, really 186 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: because a poultry plant job is a hard job, very hard. 187 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 8: This is a recurring comment we hear many times. There 188 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 8: are not enough locals willing to work in factories. In 189 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 8: the chicken processing industry. The assembly line can be especially tough, 190 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 8: and you need to. 191 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: Be doing the same thing every day for eight hours 192 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: and cutting wings, cutting wings, cutting wings, or whatever. You 193 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: need to do it, but you need to do it. 194 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: You are in the line. The line will not stop 195 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: because you're tired. 196 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: Are you responsible forgetting the first Latin American poultry workers 197 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: to the state of Mississippi. 198 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: I am not responsible. I mean I was hired and 199 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: they said we're going to create an Hispanic project. So 200 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: your mission is to get us more workers. 201 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 8: In nineteen eighty three, Capta Henna started flying to Texas 202 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 8: and Miami to recruit workers for the poetry plants that 203 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 8: PC Rogers had in Morton. The so called Hispanic Project 204 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 8: officially started in nineteen eighty four, and it basically boiled 205 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 8: down to this, the factory needed workers, and the program 206 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 8: will set up operations in Texas and Miami with the 207 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 8: idea they could find cheap labor in Latino communities. 208 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: And we started recruiting legal workers in those years, and 209 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: they put advertising we need workers for poultry business in 210 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: more from Mississippi. Nobody knew that. I mean, where is more? 211 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: How much are you better? We needed more than three 212 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 3: hundred workers in those years. The only people interested to 213 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: be working here where is Panic? 214 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 8: Within four years, the program had brought roughly five thousand, 215 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,119 Speaker 8: mainly Latino workers to Morton and other meatpacking towns. Katainah 216 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 8: told us that the Hispanic Project also offered new workers 217 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 8: some advantages such. 218 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: As renting houses and rooms for the people that come 219 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: from another places. We put even be Betsy for each one. 220 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 8: But for a lot of people these benefits that Cataana 221 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 8: mentioned just worrying enough. 222 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: But some just quit after they said they were waking 223 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks and they start quitting. Also, a 224 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: lot of them. 225 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 8: Kataina says that after the program got going, he no 226 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 8: longer had to fly to unemployment offices to recruit Latino workers. 227 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 8: The world was out. The Hispanic Project officially ended in 228 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 8: nineteen ninety eight. By then, people from Mexico, Nicaragua, and 229 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 8: elsewhere in South America had started to arrive with work permits. 230 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: With the spanning here, this area changed a lot and 231 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: more Torons start growing. 232 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 8: The population. 233 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: I work in the census a two thousand census increase 234 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: a lot the population because they Hispanic. 235 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 8: Back then, when Cartaga was working for the Hispanic Project, 236 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 8: watermelons were not part of the incoming label force. 237 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: And when they were the mallons around teen or more 238 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: or less ten years ago, they start coming a lot 239 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: of what the melons. They don't care about papers, they 240 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: don't have papers. Ah, they work. They don't complain, and 241 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: I think they don't complain the American community all the time. 242 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: They complain. Ah, your stop and title. I'm going to 243 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: talk with the union. The Hispanic never say anywhere, yes, 244 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: work work, work. 245 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 8: The fact that undocumented workers made it to these chicken 246 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 8: processing plants. Seems predictable. They need jobs, even if they're tough. 247 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 8: And wherever there's a tough job in the US, and 248 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 8: you will likely find Latin as a Latinos says this, 249 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 8: But he also sees the contradiction in the way the 250 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 8: state of Mississippi treated immigrant workers. 251 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: Because this is a state that is racist, very divided. 252 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: They don't want Hispanic in this area. They smile to you, 253 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: but they don't like to you. And now with this 254 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: immigration thing that he happened six months ago, it was 255 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: terrible because the plan was hurt, the city was hurt, 256 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: the economy of all this area was hurt, very deep. 257 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA, hundreds of ICE agents descend 258 00:16:44,120 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: on central Mississippi. Stay with us, not a bias. Hey 259 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: we're back and we've been hearing from Mississippi residents who 260 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: a year ago witnessed the largest single state immigration raid 261 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: in US history at seven chicken processing plants. My producer 262 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: me and Massias picks up the story now. 263 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 8: The morning after talking with Louis Cartagina, Maria and I 264 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 8: dropped to the town of Forest, about an hour away 265 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 8: from Jackson, the state capitol. After hearing this sort of 266 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 8: OrderIn story that Cartaginah told us how Latino immigrants made 267 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 8: it to the towns. We wanted to know more about 268 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 8: their journey how to go through here, So that's. 269 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: Why we went to visit Elena, and she asked us 270 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: not to use her real name. Elena lives in a 271 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: small house across the train tracks that go along the road, 272 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: and right between the road and the train tracks, just 273 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: yards away from Elena's house is a factory. 274 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: This is it last persona quia makin. 275 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: People say that this place used to make food for 276 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: some of the chickens that would end up in the 277 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: processing plants. There's just no way to escape chicken here. 278 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: For queer avilm is done with. 279 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: But the factory is not operating anymore, and Elena is 280 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: pretty happy about that, because that factory smelled pretty bad. 281 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 8: She says. 282 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: Elena is originally from what Malam and has been living 283 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: in Mississippi for over a decade. And I need to 284 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: warn you now, Elena's story is painful to hear. Tell 285 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit about your life. You're born, were 286 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: and kind of what's your childhood like? 287 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: Genesy and bla blada, your croquet crisis Sabat. 288 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: Elena told us that she grew up very poor in 289 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: a very small village in the area of Conception and 290 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Wistam in Mala. She says that she was so poor 291 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: that she didn't even have shoes when she was growing up. 292 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: She told us that she grew up in an abusive environment. 293 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Did your did your father hit you? 294 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: This is mama. 295 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Her dad used to beat her mother regularly, and Elena 296 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: would try to protect. 297 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: Her yellow Nuka nuka penseke. 298 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: One day, when Elena was just fourteen years old, something 299 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: horrible happened. 300 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: Even mamma. 301 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Uh, her mother had asked her to get a devotional candle, 302 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: the kind that you used to pray to a saint 303 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: or a virgin, and on the way back Gorolla Versa, 304 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: a man assaulted and raped her. 305 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: Coming into the La Casa burg, she. 306 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Could barely walk home on her own. 307 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: Morin Hey and al miss. 308 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 309 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: She wanted to die, she says, And a month later 310 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Elena found out she was pregnant. She asked her father 311 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: for help to leave for the United States. She didn't 312 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: want her child to grow up in the same environment 313 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: where she had suffered. She wanted her child to have 314 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: a better life. So Elena left Watemla in early two 315 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: thousand and six. Her journey to the United States was difficult. 316 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: It took her three attempts to cross the US Mexico 317 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: border with the help of coyotes. Finally she crossed when 318 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: she was nine months pregnant. She arrived in North Carolina, 319 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: where a dia lived, and that's where she gave birth 320 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: to her first daughter in March of two thousand six. 321 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: Nada Medijo. 322 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: In the hospital where she gave birth, the nurses told 323 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: her that they wouldn't release her baby to her because 324 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: she didn't have a car seat for the baby. One 325 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: child can't take care of another. The nurses told her, 326 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: at some point, you make a decision to move to Mississippi. 327 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: How do you end up here? 328 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 6: Are you. 329 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: Med? 330 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: Elena told us that she had an aunt in Forest, Mississippi. 331 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: Perro Metia Semana. 332 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: So when Elena got to Mississippi, she started living with 333 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: her aunt, who shared a place with an other woman 334 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: and her son. But then a week later, kind of suddenly, 335 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: Elena's aunt up and left. 336 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 4: Emdio. 337 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: The woman living with Elena told her that her aunt 338 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: had left town with a man No. 339 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: No medi. 340 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: The woman told Elena that she had paid her aunt 341 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars so she would marry her son. 342 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: Look at you. 343 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: By now Elena was desperate. She was afraid of being 344 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: abused again. She was lost and in her view, out 345 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: of options, and so she made a difficult decision. 346 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: In contre to start look at mis sister held Jose. 347 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: She got a hold of the father of her child, 348 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: the man who had once raped her, and she ended 349 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: up asking him for. 350 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: Helplady hell nose as als. 351 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 4: You si. 352 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: And this man did come. He had by now left 353 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: Wlam and was living in Miami, and Elena asked him 354 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: to come to Mississippi to help her. Cant tell you that, 355 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: but Elena found herself back in an abusive relationship for 356 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: seven more years, she had two more children, and then 357 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: when she turned twenty two. 358 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: I am ed Espertela menequin. 359 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 5: Do you seeo look ay yo be becoming pop past 360 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: it Miss nias cresciento ila telo mime Yeah. 361 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: She finally left this man and escaped with her three kids. 362 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 8: We stalled with Elena for more than one hour, lost 363 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 8: track of time as she told us the story of 364 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 8: her life. Helena's is especially hard. It's complex and tragic, 365 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 8: but in spite of all that she slipped through, she 366 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 8: kept looking ahead. Elena worked in chicken processing plants for years, 367 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 8: a single mother, struggling to raise her three young children. 368 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 8: And then on August seventh, twenty nineteen. 369 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you go to work on a normal day, the 370 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: work which probably gives you some kind of semblance of normality. 371 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: And what happens on that day? What time were you 372 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: going into work? 373 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: Alas alas singh co la manana your presentiasmea pasa. 374 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 8: Elena told us that she woke up at five thirty 375 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 8: a m like she does the most mornings, and on 376 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 8: that day, she says that she can have the premonition 377 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 8: she had been dreaming that she was being chased by 378 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 8: ice agents. 379 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 5: Pilos ninostavan piandoor milo in este quartosando but the news 380 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 5: he's some of theos. 381 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: Jes and deus. 382 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: And before where she left for work that day, she 383 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 8: checked down her three kids. They were sleeping in the room, 384 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 8: and Elena suddenly thought, what will happen to them if 385 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 8: I didn't come back today? But she had committed to 386 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 8: giving a co worker right to the plant, so she 387 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 8: drove into work started filling up boxes with chicken parts. 388 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, condoles at the quarrent I think angela misi. 389 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: Yes and nayi con la pistolea pontando. 390 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: They were pointing guns. 391 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 11: See armado. 392 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 12: See they choice the yevabantamis the Perls and renaldos for 393 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 12: Si La. 394 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: This is Yesenya, which is actually not her real name. 395 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: She asked us not to use it. On the day 396 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: of the raids, Yessenya was working at a different poultry plant, 397 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: one of the seven that were raided that day across 398 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: the area. Yesenya is originally from Mexico and she arrived 399 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: in Mississippi in twenty sixteen. The baby that you hear 400 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: in the background, that's her third child. On the day 401 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: of the raids, Yesesenna had arrived a bit early for 402 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: her eight am shift and she ran into the same 403 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: scene that was unfolding at seven other plants being raided 404 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: at the same time. 405 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 11: Rodern La Planta completamente and. 406 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 12: La Planta completamente viel copteros to sera la rejas palamracionsa salida. 407 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Ice agents surrounded the plant. There were helicopters flying overhead. 408 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: There was no way out. 409 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: La migracion this ea, oh, you can say. 410 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: Stop, Corento. 411 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 8: Helena didn't realize it was ICE at first. She thought 412 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 8: the police were just arresting someone. 413 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 5: Nasa Carntos in Sposeo Andespasia. Hey keeps. 414 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: Thement. 415 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 8: So ICE agents lined the workers up and they congrelated 416 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 8: themselves for a job well done, giving themselves high fives. 417 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 11: Termino. 418 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: The same type of raid was happening in the plant 419 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: where Yessenya was. As she was taken in by Ice, 420 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: she thought to herself, that's it. 421 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 11: It's all over, lads Peru. 422 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: Yesenya had worked at the plant for years along with 423 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: her husband. They had never heard of an immigration raid 424 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: in this part of the country, and when it finally happened, 425 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: it took them completely by surprise. And there's some context 426 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: here that's important to understand. These plants had claimed that 427 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: they had used Everify to check work eligibility. This is 428 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: a government system that allows employers to confirm the eligibility 429 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: of employees to work in the United States. However, later 430 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: it was revealed that the system hadn't been used the 431 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: way it was supposed to. The chicken processing plants had 432 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: been hiring undocumented workers for years and nothing had ever happened, 433 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: so Yesesenya and many others didn't feel there was a 434 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: risk of being detained or deported. How pregnant were. 435 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 12: You, Jodnia Saves Messos, Embarrasso Save Messos and Barrasso Kwando. 436 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: At the time, Yesenya was six months pregnant. 437 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the s. 438 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 5: Mermar Mimano, Mermara, mispiace idea still perroquees algoma. 439 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: So st. 440 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 8: Elena was undcuffed as she wondered, what have I done wrong? 441 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 8: I'm just trying to take care of my children. She 442 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 8: was like go later that day, along with other single 443 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 8: mothers who were taken in. It's unclear what the criteria was, 444 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 8: but I says the agency released more than three hundred 445 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 8: people on humanitarian grounds. Soon after the raids. 446 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Yesenya was also let go by ICE agents because she 447 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: was pregnant. But her husband. Did you see her husband 448 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: when he was being detained? What was that like? 449 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 11: Nose sol is a momento stand the temple. 450 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Yesenya feared that her husband wouldn't come back. 451 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 11: Nasiobe and. 452 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 12: And Tonzas joespos Preso and ton says see Tlotos. 453 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: Yesenya's husband was detained for six months and missed the 454 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: birth of his child. Did you tell them that your 455 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: wife was about to give birth? 456 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 13: Cooes he. 457 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: Uz. 458 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 8: When the Sena's husband tried to tell Ice agents that 459 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 8: he was going to miss the birth of his child, 460 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 8: they told him there was nothing they could do. 461 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: How many days ago were you released from the tension paces? 462 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 8: He was released just a couple of days before we 463 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 8: visited them. 464 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 13: How do you feel, Messino Felice Contentami, He's happy. 465 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 8: To be back with his family. He really thought he 466 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 8: would never see them again. 467 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Coming up on letting us say we look at the 468 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: long term repercussions of the Mississippi poultry plant raids, stay 469 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: with us, not the y Yes, hey, we're back, and 470 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: this for the break we were hearing from Elena and Jesenya, 471 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: two immigrants who, on the day of the largest single 472 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: state immigration rate in US history, we're working at two 473 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: of the seven chicken processing plants raided. Picks up the 474 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: story with me now. 475 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 8: The raids happened on a single day, but for those 476 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 8: who were there, August seventh was just the beginning of 477 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 8: a long process. We Elena told us that she was 478 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 8: traumatized after the raid, she was depressed and couldn't sleep. 479 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 8: She could not even look out of the window. She says, 480 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 8: san Mina, I felt they were chasing me, And she 481 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 8: says she went on lockdown for weeks. What am I 482 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 8: going to do now? She herself. 483 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 11: Includes Travagos in Okays. 484 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: Yes, Sena has very similar feelings. She now lives with 485 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: the fear that she could be taken away at any 486 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: moment by immigration authorities. 487 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 11: Tolmente os. 488 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: That deep feeling of insecurity that made them flee their 489 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: countries to begin with is now haunting them and their 490 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: children in this country. So you have American kids born 491 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: in Mississippi to see jos on Americans, Naciitos and Mississippi. 492 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 4: Carolina. 493 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: And when you say that, when you actually say, I'm 494 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: a mother of three kids born in the United States, 495 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: in the American South, what do you think about that? 496 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 5: Partelis porque porke your second looky yosu yosefree. 497 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 8: No Elena thinks about the fact that her children will 498 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 8: not go to the hardships. She went through my failies 499 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 8: and that makes her happy. She's confident her children have 500 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 8: a better future ahead of them. 501 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 4: La Manera Busca al Quantoxia. 502 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 8: After the rates poetry plans were extra careful not to 503 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 8: hire undocumented workers, so Elena had to look elsewhere. She 504 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 8: was planning to look for work in construction. 505 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 4: Nob Scopus. 506 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 5: Not pure the less Peranza them trauma, your pi. 507 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 4: You think on the conce. 508 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: I love your optimism and your hope and your smile. 509 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: Mepha sen not to optimism to Esperanzai to in Canada. 510 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 5: See serious no bire less Peranza pasadon milk calls us 511 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 5: you piens okay I album mema sALS Mamiselle Drava salters question. 512 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 8: She's gone through a dozen things in her life. She 513 00:37:51,520 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 8: says she'll make it through this, and that's what many 514 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 8: of those arrested on August seventh, nineteen field. They will 515 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 8: come together as a strong community to make it through this. 516 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 8: And we got to witness how they're pulling together. 517 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 14: One Sunday afternoon, signors to a spirit Spiritu Santo. 518 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: This is Saint Michael's Catholic Church in Forest, Mississippi. When 519 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: we arrived, the place is packed. It's full of families, 520 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: so many little kids everywhere, and most of the people 521 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: here are from what Tmala. There's a traditional band from 522 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: what Temala playing in the church, and after the mass, 523 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: we hang out outside the church. We're waiting for Father 524 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: Mana to sit down with us. 525 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 8: And as we wait around, Maria starts to talk to 526 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 8: a little girl wearing one of those traditional Watemalon dresses 527 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 8: most of the women here are wearing. 528 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: Just describe for me what you're wearing. 529 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a dress on warmon. 530 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: Do you know anything about it? 531 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 4: It's a special occasion, I like my mom, like a lot. 532 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: Of people are wearing it. 533 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna describe it. It's blue with humming birds. I 534 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: think around her neck, then white lace, and then the 535 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 1: colors are green and yellow. 536 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 8: And then Father Mana walks us into one story building 537 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 8: next to the church. He has a small office at 538 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 8: the end of a narrow, dark hallway. 539 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: Son, how many masses did you give today? 540 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 14: I gave it a Sunday four day friend masses one 541 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 14: in English, doing Spanish and gang in Vietnam. 542 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 8: Miss Father Mana is originally from Gatemala. He has been 543 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 8: the leader of this parish for two years and he's 544 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 8: being in the UYS for two decades. 545 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: So what do you want us to know about this congregation? 546 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 14: There's a multilingual community, and I will say that after 547 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 14: the race, I will say we are not the same 548 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 14: because the majority of this community is Hispanic and we 549 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 14: had more than two hundred families that were affected by 550 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 14: the raids. 551 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 8: President Trump had announced on a Friday in mid July 552 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 8: twenty nineteen that ICE could be conducting major detention operations 553 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 8: across the nation that weekend. 554 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 14: So that Sunday I had help of the people coming 555 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 14: to the church because they were in fear that they 556 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 14: think that that weekend something might happen, but they didn't 557 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 14: know that that was going to happen in their own work, 558 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 14: in their own job. 559 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 8: After the raids. For the Menis church became a help 560 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 8: for people looking for help. 561 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 14: All the people came here asking for food, and some 562 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 14: of them they didn't have money for the rent because 563 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 14: a lot of them they were not higher anymore. Some 564 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 14: of them had the uncle monitors so they could not work. 565 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: So, you know, I've never been here before. It's I guess. 566 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: We came for the end of the one o'clock Mass, 567 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: and I got here maybe halfway through Mass, and there 568 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: was an overflowing crowd of people in your tiny church. 569 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: So for me, this feels like, you know, there's no 570 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: parking space. People are double parked, there's no way to 571 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: get in and out. I mean, this feels like a 572 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: very vibrant community. But you're telling me that it's since 573 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: August to now. It's not the same. 574 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 14: The thing is, we have more active members now after 575 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 14: the raids, but the problem is we still have people detained, 576 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 14: and we still have the children and the youtha affected 577 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 14: emotionally and psychologically. 578 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 8: And I think is the raids didn't happen on a 579 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 8: normal day. It was the first day of school in 580 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 8: the towns surrounding the chicken processing plants. 581 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 14: So it was a very difficult expedience for a lot 582 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 14: of them because imagine that after school they got the 583 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 14: news that their parents were in jail. 584 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 8: Some kids were not picked up at their parents that day. 585 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 8: The community had to scramble to take care of each other. 586 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 14: Post traal marriage stresses their experiencing. We have been listening 587 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 14: in testimony that some of them they don't have the 588 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 14: same kind of grades as school. A lot of depression 589 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 14: anxiety in the kids and also in the youth. 590 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 8: After the rate, more than three hundred people ended up 591 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 8: spending time inside Immigration centers. Some were there for months, 592 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 8: some are still in custody. Others were deported. 593 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 14: A lot of them. They have a lot of hurt 594 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 14: in their hearts. They don't tell what is happening, and 595 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 14: they they have fear, so they don't talk. They don't 596 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 14: want to be important. Maybe they want to go back 597 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 14: to their countries, but because of their children that they 598 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 14: are Americans, they don't want to go back. 599 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 8: Father Man had told us that some members in his 600 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 8: community had gone through traumatic experiences before Guatemala went to 601 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 8: a war in the eighties, then gun violence, economic crisis. 602 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 8: That's what these workers are trying to escape from. 603 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 14: For them, they came because they didn't have work over there, 604 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 14: and after the war over there. I have listened testimony 605 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 14: that they say, we have been experienced here, war sings 606 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 14: that are in Guatemala because we came flying from violence 607 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 14: and now we are experiencing violence in the United States. 608 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 8: But that doesn't mean this. Families are planning to go anywhere. 609 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: Oh Comeusta. On our last morning in Mississippi, we visited Lorena, 610 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: the community organizer who has been connecting us to the 611 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: workers in the area for Lorena lives in Jackson in 612 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: a house she's slowly renovating. She lives here with her 613 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: three Afro Latina daughters who she homeschools with. 614 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 7: One of the gentlemen I work with, he said, I'm 615 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 7: worthless now. 616 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 8: Dorena knows this community like few other people in the area, 617 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 8: and she saw what the raids did to them. 618 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 7: This was immediately after a beautiful kings Sianeta for his daughter. 619 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 7: The community helped out and they got her a youth 620 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 7: dress and it was beautiful. And I talked to him 621 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 7: to congratulate him and said, what a beautiful you know 622 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 7: the and he was wearing a grillette. 623 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 8: That's one of those anglesh that goes We've mentioned before. 624 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 7: He said, I'm worthless and I was like, how could 625 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 7: you say that? 626 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 4: Look at your daughter. 627 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: She's like He's like, I can't provide for them. 628 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 8: But this is not what things will look like in 629 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 8: the future. 630 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 7: But Na says, what people are seeing now are people 631 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 7: that are just destroyed and broken. 632 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 11: But that's not what they are. 633 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 7: You know, their survivors, those communities in Forest and in Morton, 634 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 7: you know where they've seen a doubling of students because 635 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 7: kids are still going to school, they're still graduating they're 636 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 7: still going to King Sianas, they're still having baptisms. They're 637 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 7: on Sundays packed, and they're they're grateful that they're in 638 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 7: this country and they don't want. 639 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: To leave, and they want to stay in Mississippi. By 640 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: the way, they love Mississippi. 641 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 4: They love Mississippi. 642 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 8: Many other immigrants we met in Mississippi came here as adults. 643 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 8: They build a life on scratch, and that brings a 644 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 8: certain feeling with it, the fear that everything might disappear 645 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 8: one day and they will have nothing to show for 646 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 8: all their efforts. In a way, it's story of very 647 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 8: immigrant for these communities. The threat is very real, but 648 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 8: they'll continue to live with it, raise their children, change 649 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 8: the face of this country. After all, they are in 650 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 8: Mississippi to stay. 651 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: My thanks to me and Massias for producing that story. 652 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 1: And a lot has happened since beginn and I traveled 653 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: to Mississippi back in February. COVID hit plants faced workers shortages, 654 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: and once again they turned to the Latino community in 655 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: the area to fill those jobs. We followed up with Yesenye, 656 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: who is now back working at a chicken processing plant. 657 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: Elena could not find a job in construction as she 658 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: wanted to, so she had to give up her small 659 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 1: house after seven years of living there. She's now living 660 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: in a single bedroom with her three children. None of 661 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: them have any plans of leaving the state of Mississippi. 662 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: Next week, we continue our reporting on meat processing plants 663 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: in the United States, this time with a focus on 664 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: the deep impact the COVID nineteen crisis has had in 665 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: the health of essential workers who staff these plants. The 666 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: pandemic has spurred an unprecedented protest movement led by the 667 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: kids of meatpackers. It's the Children of Smithfield next week 668 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: on Latino USA. This episode was co reported by me 669 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 1: and Niel Massias, who produced it with help from Julia Rochard. 670 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: It was edited by Luis Trees and Sophia Palisaka. The 671 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: Latino USA team includes Jane Jamoca, Julieta Martinelli, Gini Montalbo, 672 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: Alis Es Carce, and Alejandra Salasad, with help from Rol Betes. 673 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: Fact checking by Amy Trdiff. A very special thank you 674 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: to lorenac guiros Lewis, director and founder of the Immigrant 675 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 1: Alliance for Justice and Equity and a community organizer for 676 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: working together in Mississippi. Also thanks to the folks at 677 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: Mississippi Today and to their investigative reporter and a Wolf. 678 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: Our engineers are Stephanie Lobo, Julia Caruso, and Liah Shaw. 679 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: Our Director of Programming and Operations is Natalia fidel Hutz. 680 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: Our digital editor is Amandel Cantra. Our interns are Sophia 681 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: Sanchez and Marie Mendosa. Our theme music was composed by 682 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: segne Renos. If you like the music you heard on 683 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: this episode, stop by Latinousa dot org and check out 684 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: our weekly Spotify playlist. I'm your host and executive producer 685 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: Marino Fosa. 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