Speaker 1: Forever. Look mad oh, I see you? Why why and
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding
Speaker 1: dong last culture? Rita's calling. Well, I'm staying across from
Speaker 1: my greatest friend, my greatest enemy. How could you? I
Speaker 1: knew you? Turn? I don't know what's happening. You know
Speaker 1: we just with the energy in here is very thick
Speaker 1: and gay. It's warm. And I'll say why because the
Speaker 1: food for thought boys were just the food for thought.
Speaker 1: Boys were just in here, love them. They were talking
Speaker 1: to the author of boy or Race. Could you even
Speaker 1: of the imagine he wrote the book Boy Race, and
Speaker 1: it was very gay in here because the moment boy
Speaker 1: a Race came up. You know that Nicole Nicole Kidman's
Speaker 1: wig was not far behind Nicole Kidman's wig, which is
Speaker 1: basically Troy Savant's hair. Wow. In many ways, that is
Speaker 1: rule of culture, Nicole Kidman's wig and hair in ways
Speaker 1: choice Evon's hair down when it's like when he's just
Speaker 1: blown it out himself and it's and he did one
Speaker 1: of these like he shepherded it down like a fall,
Speaker 1: like a waterfall. Did you know that his song from
Speaker 1: the movie Boy Race is getting Oscar buzz and it's
Speaker 1: unfair that he also did a cover of some Somebody
Speaker 1: to Love for Bohemian Rhapsody. It's not fair someone someone
Speaker 1: who's not fair. And I'm going to see Bohemian Rhapsody
Speaker 1: this evening. Yes you are. Now. When I say this evening,
Speaker 1: I mean and literally this will have happened a month ago.
Speaker 1: We have backlogging, honey, we're podcasting terms, so we're recording
Speaker 1: this November four. We don't so yeah, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a real time capsule, pre election, pre mid terms.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. It's not even like I have
Speaker 1: to find out if Bohemian Rhapsody is bad when I
Speaker 1: see it tonight, I literally know it's bad. Have you
Speaker 1: seen this video of Ramy Malich just with I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: celebrities get poked and proud of all the time. But
Speaker 1: there's this is done, I know it. But there's this thing.
Speaker 1: There's this thing of um this this video on Twitter
Speaker 1: of this sweet person being like just taking a little
Speaker 1: selfie video with Romie and then she goes, can you
Speaker 1: say hi to my friend Jill? And he goes, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no, I'm not going to you said
Speaker 1: we'd take a picture now like just is I can't
Speaker 1: recreate it, but like I don't know what he's like,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to say something crazy seems on the
Speaker 1: spectrum to me. Oh okay, interesting, I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's wonderful. Yes, it's wonderful. He um his his
Speaker 1: whole thing within these press junkets about but he obviously
Speaker 1: when he's being confronted. I think them, you know who
Speaker 1: confronted him into the Ladies of the View, the Ladies
Speaker 1: of the View. He was on the vie this this
Speaker 1: last week, and what do they say? And they said
Speaker 1: Booby Goldberg herself asked the question at she rarely asked questions.
Speaker 1: It's true of culture number rarely asked questions on the View. Um,
Speaker 1: but she literally was like, you know he was homosexual
Speaker 1: and this it was glazed over in the film, and
Speaker 1: you know he's amously died of AIDS. Was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not glazed over. Actually no one knows this, but
Speaker 1: his longest relationship, um was with a woman. And you know,
Speaker 1: she find out that he was bisexual or you know, gay,
Speaker 1: And I was like, honey, you are making every real
Speaker 1: mistake by now. Yeah, he's who knows but on the
Speaker 1: spectrum maybe which is which is beautiful love, that love,
Speaker 1: that embrace, that embrace that you know who else we embraced.
Speaker 1: I embrace our guests with two arms of love, both
Speaker 1: arms that I have, both arms that you have. I
Speaker 1: think she is like a true icon both communically aesthetically lifestyle.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say lifestyle if there's a person in
Speaker 1: my life who will have a brand that is like
Speaker 1: women everywhere and end gay men, but truly, like I mean,
Speaker 1: just all encompassing, holistic lifestyle. This is this is our guest,
Speaker 1: you know whose life she changed, and this person is
Speaker 1: her life does not off changed? Sudi Suti, Like, really, well,
Speaker 1: she's a Greta lover. Many people are Greta lovers. I'm
Speaker 1: a Greta lover. Changes grati changes lives. Okay, let's bring
Speaker 1: her and mean, what are the credits? I mean? She
Speaker 1: is one of the co hosts of Lady Levin, popular
Speaker 1: podcast with Low Bosworth and jil Jillian Hendrix Um and
Speaker 1: she might mendure off and do her own problems. Watch
Speaker 1: this space, as they say, watch the Space, um and
Speaker 1: she is just hosts incredible shows coast to coast. Truly
Speaker 1: truly like just one of the most visible people out
Speaker 1: there and prolific, prolific. That's what I meant to say,
Speaker 1: and you better follow on Insto Gertie Gertie Bird and
Speaker 1: oh my god, she she's just the light in this
Speaker 1: world that we love. My um greatest joy is when
Speaker 1: she texts me and tells me she's going to be
Speaker 1: in town. That's great. I just I throw down everything
Speaker 1: that's in my hands and I say, that's fucking great.
Speaker 1: And I guess I'll just wait for her to come out,
Speaker 1: Come out, Come on by, walk on back, welcome sign
Speaker 1: a start of the song, Let's please welcome our guests.
Speaker 1: Grant titleman, No nicer things have ever been said about
Speaker 1: me ever in my life. I'm being serious, beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: You carry the light. I carry the light. Carry the light.
Speaker 1: You know how I learned that expression. Oprah Winfrey said
Speaker 1: to Andy Cohen, you carry the light, and he was like,
Speaker 1: thank you. I can die now, know you really, you
Speaker 1: guys really said such beautiful things about me, you know,
Speaker 1: as well as like performers and people, you know, you
Speaker 1: get so insecure and anxious about like what other people
Speaker 1: think of you, and like I'm constantly looking at instagramming
Speaker 1: like this person hates me, this person things I'm dub person.
Speaker 1: It's just like so constant. So when you hear that
Speaker 1: from because I love and admire both of you so much,
Speaker 1: so hearing you guys say those things that I think,
Speaker 1: no I do, you know, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like we're also in our heads also thinking about ourselves,
Speaker 1: and we're so like narcissistic that like every single time
Speaker 1: I look at something, I'm like, well, they don't like me,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. It's like a baby and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not baby. That baby will have no
Speaker 1: idea who I am because their owner won't talk about
Speaker 1: It's been the way that social media gets all in
Speaker 1: our heads. It's been a strong theme on the pod.
Speaker 1: It's um, yeah, I mean it's I think I think
Speaker 1: we were We have this fun generation of like homegrown
Speaker 1: narcissism where it's just like, oh, like we may might
Speaker 1: not have been this like self absorbed with our like
Speaker 1: just if if it weren't for just these horrible like
Speaker 1: these like what what a crazy notion to look at
Speaker 1: someone and be like, well they hate me. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but see I feel like that has existed forever,
Speaker 1: you know. And there are ways that our parents generation
Speaker 1: were so narcissistic too, in ways you know, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they would spit shine their mustangs and drive out to
Speaker 1: the drive, drive through theater, honey and greatly and degree
Speaker 1: jacking off from the car. And they all had something
Speaker 1: to prove. They're all lawyers, they're all doctors. They're all
Speaker 1: doing something to get that American dreams. And who's gonna
Speaker 1: get there first? And now lawyers and doctors are obsolete
Speaker 1: and never nowhere to be. Keep on looking for one,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hello, hello lawyer, And then I'm just
Speaker 1: on Instagram saying who here is a doctor? You just
Speaker 1: quote Taylor spect get a good lawyer. You didn't hear
Speaker 1: about this when she did her questions? Oh yeah, what's
Speaker 1: her advice for a singer coming up? She turns back
Speaker 1: and throws a cold look over her shoulders and goes,
Speaker 1: get a good lawyer? Can we talk about Taylor quickly?
Speaker 1: Quickly for a long time? Whatever? Has she turned a
Speaker 1: leaf in your book? Like? How are your feeling? Positive?
Speaker 1: And good? Guys talked about this. Well here we have
Speaker 1: a history with Taylor. We have a history with Taylor,
Speaker 1: um mine is a little bit more like up and down,
Speaker 1: up and down. But I think with this recent turn, um,
Speaker 1: I just spent like that the whole week after she
Speaker 1: posted that endorsement Instagram, which was crazy. It was it
Speaker 1: was it was insane, the fact that two sixty five
Speaker 1: thousand people just started across the country in a day
Speaker 1: or something. And we should say we are recording this
Speaker 1: two days before the midterm, so we do not know
Speaker 1: how everything turned out, but right now it looks like
Speaker 1: Tennessee is still competitive. Ish yes, Phil president um, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's great and like I so then
Speaker 1: I spent that whole week afterwards just like being like,
Speaker 1: finally I can listen to her, because I like really
Speaker 1: really didn't. I swore her off for a while. I
Speaker 1: swore her off for a very long time. And I
Speaker 1: loved Taylor Swift's first album. Our song is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite song god and like half of them, which
Speaker 1: is crazy. She Yeah, that last song on her first
Speaker 1: time was like sing halleluyah. She's like now she's like
Speaker 1: I am the Queen of snakes, the dominating demon. She's
Speaker 1: giving me very Sabrina, Sabrina, Yes, it is Sabrina. Wow,
Speaker 1: she really snatched New Sabrina's thunder. I find that a
Speaker 1: lot like something happens with pop stars where I feel
Speaker 1: like they all need to go through a spooky face
Speaker 1: where they're like, I am done being this good girl.
Speaker 1: Now I need to be spooky. So like Christina was
Speaker 1: spooky with Dirty, Brittany was spooky with Blackout, which is
Speaker 1: my favorite album. Kelly had a exactly you bought to
Speaker 1: get spooky after you know what it is. It's after
Speaker 1: you hit your top imperial face. That's when you because
Speaker 1: that's when you're the most unhappy. Yeah, that's true. I
Speaker 1: think it is. But there's some pop stars. I think
Speaker 1: Gaga had her spooky face during her imperiod. She was
Speaker 1: always spooky. She was she was the capitalized on spooky.
Speaker 1: She did spooky and immortal avant guard attempt of spooky.
Speaker 1: They're just angsty spooky. You know, there are different kinds
Speaker 1: of spook. See, none of these girls lived inside spooky,
Speaker 1: so they were able to visit temperary spooky came from
Speaker 1: the spook. What would you say is Beyonce's spooky. I
Speaker 1: think Beyonce's Sasha Fierce is the spooky side of Beyonce.
Speaker 1: I also think when she was going through like the
Speaker 1: whole Um Diva, I think was a spooky moment for her.
Speaker 1: Well wait, now that I'm thinking about it, though, I
Speaker 1: feel lemonaded her A lot of a lot of Beyonce
Speaker 1: and a lot of Lemonade is scary. Or maybe I
Speaker 1: was just too high. No, I was scary. The visuals
Speaker 1: were scary. They were when when it's like slowly going
Speaker 1: down that hallway before um, before that, before a six inch,
Speaker 1: It's like slowly going down the hallway, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: something's popping out. But like we should all want to
Speaker 1: go through a spooky phase because that's when you know
Speaker 1: you've made it. I think we have you been through?
Speaker 1: Have we all been through? Spooky face? Okay, Matt, Matt,
Speaker 1: just okay, huge news everyone. Matt just changed his hair
Speaker 1: color from this Robert Redford blonde back to a dark,
Speaker 1: dark brown. It's been since I love college. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I really like it to see. I think that the
Speaker 1: blonde was a spooky phase for you. That was it was.
Speaker 1: It was what three weeks. It washed me out like
Speaker 1: a ghost. It also gave me real Riverdale like Tina horror.
Speaker 1: Everyone kept telling me. I like app and I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, god, bless you, Like I created a story
Speaker 1: you did, Wait tell the storyline that you created. I
Speaker 1: was DM man, I was like this hair, he like
Speaker 1: he goes back to Riverdale. He comes back. Yes, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm here. And then that was like, oh,
Speaker 1: and you're my sister. And I'm like, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: sexual and we have a weird sexual thing. Isn't incestuous?
Speaker 1: We don't know, very cruel intentions type thing. And then
Speaker 1: we started do we started druggring, we start some kind
Speaker 1: of illegal Yeah, we definitely have like some illegal dealings.
Speaker 1: Maybe we just like sell bags illegally or something like that.
Speaker 1: I said, I think both of our characters only one season.
Speaker 1: How we go? You two are the Alfree Wodard of
Speaker 1: of the Verde world. I think little spec script for that.
Speaker 1: I want to write the spec script. Yeah, Alfree Wardard
Speaker 1: was the spooky face of Desperate Housewives, sorry spooky face.
Speaker 1: You know who was on my plane? Victoria what's her
Speaker 1: face from? From No fucking Wish? From Real House's Orange County? Yes,
Speaker 1: Vicky from from Yes and I saw her and Vicky
Speaker 1: Galvinson Vinson yeah, right right. And I was expecting her
Speaker 1: face to look very spooky, because it does in the
Speaker 1: show look psychotic. And I will admit I am not
Speaker 1: a real Housewives watcher myself, but I know because she
Speaker 1: is that she is the first, she has the original
Speaker 1: house and she right right, like I was sort of
Speaker 1: sorry to describe this way long face. Yes she was.
Speaker 1: She was one who's crying when we were watching an upstate. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she went out constantly, constantly, and it was like unclear
Speaker 1: as to everyone else to watch, like, why is Vicky crying? Yes?
Speaker 1: I know exactly. We're talking. Great, she does have like
Speaker 1: a down she looks normal. Dare I say? She looked
Speaker 1: not spooky turned out? And you think they're going to
Speaker 1: be a spook They're not the spookiest person I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen? Are you kidding me? In New York
Speaker 1: you see like nine spooky people. Well maybe that's because
Speaker 1: I'm desensitized. Um. I feel like Queen of Spooky is
Speaker 1: like in our scene in New York, at least in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is like what like Laurela a little bit the
Speaker 1: queen of horror spook? Yes, had you been through a
Speaker 1: spooky pa? Oh, my whole high school time was this
Speaker 1: spooky face. You know, I'll tell you what I was
Speaker 1: in high school. I will I was. I had a
Speaker 1: very like bad home life. So I was just like
Speaker 1: constantly just like high and fucking boys in high school
Speaker 1: and not doing well in class at all. I see,
Speaker 1: I feel like my narrative that I create for you
Speaker 1: in my brain is doesn't try. I honestly love that,
Speaker 1: thank you that that's the energy that I give off. Now.
Speaker 1: In high school I had a very chinnet can ask
Speaker 1: Patrick Foley, a fellow class together, Yes, yes, and maybe
Speaker 1: his preppy phase was his. But and again high school,
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I was just like
Speaker 1: confused and just like wanted to just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even like who the funk am? I actually
Speaker 1: think a lot of people have in high school were
Speaker 1: scared and can fused by me, like because I went
Speaker 1: to boarding school and I dropped out of boarding school
Speaker 1: in my freshman year already spooky, yes, And then I
Speaker 1: transferred into a high school in d C where I
Speaker 1: grew up my school. No, I went to private school
Speaker 1: in d C. And when I transferred in there, because
Speaker 1: no one did that ever, this is such. This is
Speaker 1: a very like O C story. Yes, yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to Choke the Choy Hall, this boarding school in Connecticut
Speaker 1: where like Vanka Trump went and k went to talk
Speaker 1: about Spook. One of them is literally a ghost. And
Speaker 1: I hated it and it was literal hell. It was
Speaker 1: like the worst place on the planet. And I left.
Speaker 1: And then when I transferred to my high school, there
Speaker 1: was a rumor that went around that I was dealing ecstasy,
Speaker 1: which was like hilarious in hindsight, and at this fair
Speaker 1: was I was not dead, but I went like at
Speaker 1: that time, I was into like wearing tight eye and
Speaker 1: I had the kind of this like shaggy like brown
Speaker 1: hair to look very like led Zeppelin, cream black Sabbath
Speaker 1: kind of girl where I was just like I love
Speaker 1: rock and like you at I did. But a lot
Speaker 1: of it was informed by my you know, blood thirst
Speaker 1: for dick. So a lot of my music taste has
Speaker 1: always been informed by the thirst. Four days you would
Speaker 1: blood is a front runner for a title because you
Speaker 1: don't want you're not thirsty for the dick. You're thirsty
Speaker 1: for the dick. Blood. Yes, I need the blood of
Speaker 1: the dick. You can find you can find Greta by
Speaker 1: the men's restroom and she goes, yeah, that's where they're
Speaker 1: hiding with the men. But yeah, all of my musical
Speaker 1: tastes all through high school were informed by whatever guy
Speaker 1: I wanted to have sex, because in my sophomore year
Speaker 1: I became obsessed with this gorgeous guy who didn't go
Speaker 1: to my school, but he loved listening to Rags and
Speaker 1: Machine and the Flaming Lips, And I literally wasted a
Speaker 1: year of my life listening to the Flaming Lips. I
Speaker 1: mean trash, trash, but at the time it felt right.
Speaker 1: At the time, it felt very quick, like everything, like
Speaker 1: if you weren't listening to it, like did you listen
Speaker 1: to music? You know what I mean? If you we're
Speaker 1: listening to Flaming Lips and Stevens yes, and oh my god,
Speaker 1: can we talk about how with my girlfriends? Sufian wrecked
Speaker 1: me and I couldn't even listen to it because I
Speaker 1: was like, this is emotionally tormenting and like the orchestra
Speaker 1: and the masks, I was like, that's crazy. What's crazy
Speaker 1: is that he got bigger after that? Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say so, I mean, he did the score of me,
Speaker 1: not the score, but the song. He did a lot
Speaker 1: of songs for call Me by Your Name. He yeah,
Speaker 1: he got big, But say, I actually think that is
Speaker 1: the right platform for him for that kind of an artist,
Speaker 1: Like because he's working with orchestras and things like that.
Speaker 1: He's not just like I'm just good my drunk, my guitar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was always going to be something. He Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really was like, yeah, he he became the artist. Became
Speaker 1: the artist. Um, okay, but okay, so walk us through
Speaker 1: this high school life a little bit more. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so then, I mean my hair was also like nine
Speaker 1: things in high school. It was crazy. It was like
Speaker 1: jet black and like deep purply black. Was a lot
Speaker 1: of shades of black and a lot of different haircuts
Speaker 1: at my senior year of high school. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck I was thinking. I had. My
Speaker 1: hair was up to here half fight to my to
Speaker 1: my cheeks, like right below my cheek bones, jet black.
Speaker 1: And I had crooked bangs. I had crooked fucking Chicago, Yes,
Speaker 1: like a really fucked deranged one. And I remember my
Speaker 1: mom looking at me just being like oh God, and
Speaker 1: she just walked away. I don't think she spoke to
Speaker 1: me until like some grow out happened. Yeah, and my
Speaker 1: parents were big and political people, so we would always
Speaker 1: have parties at our house constantly, and I just remember
Speaker 1: my mom being like what And then, so did you
Speaker 1: meet a lot of interesting DC figures? You know, you
Speaker 1: know you're a little it was a regular house of cards.
Speaker 1: And it was a regular, regular old house of cards.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then in high school, Chain smoked cigarettes constantly,
Speaker 1: which is so stupid because you think you don't reek
Speaker 1: of smoke, Like whenever anybody smokes a cigarette. Now, I
Speaker 1: smell it for away and I can't like when I
Speaker 1: when I fucking have a dark moment in bum one
Speaker 1: off this one, I smell it on myself for two days,
Speaker 1: two days. It's well, you know, I never shot one.
Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding. I like, I just feel like
Speaker 1: it lingers from you know, when I whenever I do
Speaker 1: smoke a cigarette, which is only in Europe, I find
Speaker 1: that I smell it like in my breath. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes are fun. It's a social event. Yes, and
Speaker 1: you do it too much. No, I've simply stopped since
Speaker 1: starting work. Do you have any idea how long this
Speaker 1: has been your narrative. I had no idea you were smoked.
Speaker 1: I started smoking and may have twenty fifteen, just because
Speaker 1: it was a social thing at work. It was like
Speaker 1: all right, well everyone like like we would, I worked
Speaker 1: this office job, and like people would just be like, okay,
Speaker 1: well there's nothing to do, let's just get downstairs. And
Speaker 1: I was like okay, breaking up the day. And then
Speaker 1: it just like snowballed into this thing and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh funk, this sucks, Like I don't I feel bad
Speaker 1: doing this? And then yeah, I kept it up for
Speaker 1: like two years and now it's just like no, seriously,
Speaker 1: this has been like the change that I needed to
Speaker 1: just the truth in your eyes. Thank you to not
Speaker 1: even think of I don't even have time to really
Speaker 1: think about it, which is great. Smoking is just like
Speaker 1: it's not cute. It's just passing the time. It's just
Speaker 1: if you're if you're smoking your board, that's all it is.
Speaker 1: But you know what, there has been really fun about it.
Speaker 1: There's something, there's something Hollywood has made it still so
Speaker 1: that when like I think about just like smoke, it's
Speaker 1: like dark and just like smoking a cigarette, like looking
Speaker 1: out the window, it's like blowing. I can tell you
Speaker 1: what I love about it, getting one on one time
Speaker 1: with someone else. Yeah, that's like I'm always like, let's go. Like,
Speaker 1: that's why I like to smoke. We Like, I loved
Speaker 1: smoking weed with someone for the first time because it's
Speaker 1: like you when you really get on their level. I'm
Speaker 1: a full on tweaker when I smoke weed, and that's
Speaker 1: what I used to do it constantly and now I can't.
Speaker 1: At one time, I went on a date with a
Speaker 1: guy and he was like, let's go back to my
Speaker 1: house and smoke weed me fully knowing I couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, I did it anyway, smoked
Speaker 1: a blunt. By the way, Oh my god, I hallustined
Speaker 1: that there was a poodle in the front yard, and
Speaker 1: then he was like you need to go and then
Speaker 1: oh my god, I who I was telling this story too.
Speaker 1: So I had a crush on this guy. He was
Speaker 1: a bartender at a restaurant next to my old apartment,
Speaker 1: and after that weed incident happened, he like didn't talk
Speaker 1: to me, and then I was wasted. I just found
Speaker 1: these screenshots on my computer the other day. When I
Speaker 1: was wasted, I texted him being like do want to
Speaker 1: meet up or not? And then no response. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, la, well just wanted to kiss or whatever.
Speaker 1: Guess you don't dot dot dot and your response. And
Speaker 1: then I said another teching like I mean I just
Speaker 1: wanted to fuck casually, and then no response. You were
Speaker 1: that girl? And then I woke up in the morning
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And I said another text in the morning being like hey, like, um,
Speaker 1: sorry about last night. I was a little over also overserved.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, yeah, over served, like whatever, And
Speaker 1: then he didn't respond to me, and then I ended
Speaker 1: up seeing him at work and I had happened to
Speaker 1: go to his restaurant twice in one day, which was terrible,
Speaker 1: and he just the only text you're at back was
Speaker 1: you came here twice and one day period, not even
Speaker 1: question mark, just period. Okay, Well, then he's just being
Speaker 1: he was a dick, a little dickie. Ye. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean listen, that's I I obviously respect to you for
Speaker 1: that time. Many texts, what they really need to be
Speaker 1: texted is are you okay? Someone cutting you off? Because
Speaker 1: they should be. I say, I've sent so many really
Speaker 1: weird texts yeah, control, have you ever weird texted? I
Speaker 1: was really close last night because I had more to
Speaker 1: drink in a long time. We were all together last
Speaker 1: night as we were um and I had one too
Speaker 1: many frozen Mark's Delicious. Thank you those communities. Let a
Speaker 1: treat a frozen market. And then I ordered the prickly pear.
Speaker 1: I didn't deep rich color, rich colored, the deep rich
Speaker 1: flavor point and then yeah, it was really close to
Speaker 1: texting the color the flavor of you know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about? Wait, what the high point? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you guys, I thought that when you said deeper colored,
Speaker 1: deeper flavor. Lauren Bacall was in these oh her high
Speaker 1: Point coffee, but just the way the tagline for it.
Speaker 1: Look at the color, the deep rich flavor, and then
Speaker 1: she she smells and then she's like the aroma and
Speaker 1: then she takes a sip and she's like nothing like
Speaker 1: high Point. You need to see those commercials. They're incredible.
Speaker 1: She's always like she's walking into a limousine and there's
Speaker 1: like a small side table with a lamp in the
Speaker 1: limousine with like tea, cakes and coffee. We need major
Speaker 1: a list, actual real actresses to talk said but we need,
Speaker 1: we need. The best one is Lauren walks into her
Speaker 1: sweet and she looks at the camera and she opens
Speaker 1: it and she just says, my favorite time of day
Speaker 1: is night, which is holy the best iconic I'm to make.
Speaker 1: My favorite time of day is night. I wish I
Speaker 1: wish that I had like yearbook quotes in high school,
Speaker 1: which I never got to have, but I wish to
Speaker 1: repeat like the stupidest bullshit and the most gravitasi Hollywood
Speaker 1: glamour voice exactly here. You know what what you know?
Speaker 1: You love New York from? So this is when he
Speaker 1: was in high school and it was it was big
Speaker 1: at the time. That's really smart, Like how I just
Speaker 1: call that smart? I was just going to point out
Speaker 1: that Greta is like high key, like I mean, she's
Speaker 1: an incredible stand up like like full stop, but then
Speaker 1: also high key like very good at characters, yeah, like
Speaker 1: like check out the insta like, but she she just
Speaker 1: dropped into the whole fucking book holism of it all,
Speaker 1: and I'm just collisms of it all and now I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh yeah, like she like can embody that
Speaker 1: like better than a lot of all anyway? But who
Speaker 1: did you almost text though I don't want to say,
Speaker 1: I mean just this just what made you stop? Well
Speaker 1: made me stop? Was like oh well, he like, I
Speaker 1: mean this, this would go nowhere, and like it's like,
Speaker 1: oh it's three am. Uh, it's not how you think
Speaker 1: it is. It's this, it's the guy. It's is it
Speaker 1: the other one? I think it's just the quick flame guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love I think that he is safe to text. Really,
Speaker 1: I think you should text. He's fun and flortya. But
Speaker 1: he was also really neurotic about just being like I
Speaker 1: like you, but we shouldn't. We shouldn't se flirty in
Speaker 1: the moment and then hetty hetty hetty afterwards. That's hard
Speaker 1: for me. I can't tell either a long term fun
Speaker 1: and flirty in the moment and then after the moment
Speaker 1: to like for like a solid two days and then
Speaker 1: something turned and I'm looking back at my stuff and
Speaker 1: I'm like relitigating this in my head. Nothing I did,
Speaker 1: you need to know it. And then he just sort
Speaker 1: of changed his mind and was like, my exes in
Speaker 1: your friend groups, we should stop. And I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: that's not true. So I'm sorry everyone. If you are
Speaker 1: like a person that is interesting. Working in New York City,
Speaker 1: you probably know someone periphery that knows someone is not
Speaker 1: a big deal unless it's a big deal to him,
Speaker 1: which it felt like it wasn't a respect and you
Speaker 1: gotta resolve it. Flings a fling, a dick in a mouth?
Speaker 1: Who wants to complicate that? Flings a fling a dick
Speaker 1: in the mouth? Who wants a complicated that? That's just
Speaker 1: the beginning of a song I'm writing flings fling and
Speaker 1: who wants to complicate that? But yet everyone at the
Speaker 1: same time, can I say sometimes it can go a
Speaker 1: little complicated. It always gets complicated somewhere because you know what,
Speaker 1: I hate this idea of people being like, let's just
Speaker 1: keep it casual. Whenever anybody that we're just casually hooking up,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean? You haven't defined any
Speaker 1: parameters around this. So if someone's going to suck something
Speaker 1: up and upset the other, right, and also if you
Speaker 1: stay hooking up with that person for longer than a month,
Speaker 1: in my book, that slowly starts to turn into a relationship.
Speaker 1: Does hello. We saw two popular films about this very thing,
Speaker 1: No Strings Attached, Friends, Friends, Benefits and came out in
Speaker 1: the same year, like months apart, like months after Black Swan,
Speaker 1: which almost sounds better. Which one did you think was better?
Speaker 1: I think I have to say I prefer the Natalie
Speaker 1: Apportman and Ashton Kutcher one. And that's not just because
Speaker 1: a friend is in the movie. Can I say that
Speaker 1: I found the chemistry between Mila and Justin to be
Speaker 1: a little bit more realistic though than the chemistry between
Speaker 1: more fun. It was more fun, where like Wrenally was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm a doctor and I guess I want
Speaker 1: to blow off steam by fucking Ashton Kutcher. I just
Speaker 1: wasn't as. I don't believe for a second that someone
Speaker 1: as smart as Natalie pork someone as dumb as Ashton. However,
Speaker 1: I think that Justin Timberlake is so charismatic and Milacunas
Speaker 1: is so charismatic that I would just believe that they
Speaker 1: would suck anything. Can I say I saw Ashton Kutcher
Speaker 1: in person years ago, literally insanely hot. He's crazy, You're
Speaker 1: just like that, Iowa corn Well done corn the whole melt.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've said it on this podcast before,
Speaker 1: but you have to look up to this movie he
Speaker 1: was in called spread best. So many incredible sex scenes
Speaker 1: in it. You see his like but which is great?
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I guess I'm not. I'm not a
Speaker 1: huge Timberlake fan myself. I have a bunch of issues
Speaker 1: with Timberlake. We had a long discussion upstate about just
Speaker 1: all the things that he is culpable and you know
Speaker 1: what do you mean, Well, here's the thing. The Man
Speaker 1: of the Woods thing is, it's just a way for
Speaker 1: aging pop star to give up but still be like,
Speaker 1: I'm so cool, you know what I mean. But here's
Speaker 1: here's an editorial is angled all this, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, for me, my justin Timberlake, my personal
Speaker 1: justin Timberlake is in a fucking suit, and my personal
Speaker 1: justin Timberlake is in a doll insane. That was when
Speaker 1: I was still in denial about my sexuality. That one
Speaker 1: had a deep patriot for him because I wanted to
Speaker 1: fuck him so badly. About Lance Bass, No, Lance was
Speaker 1: Lance I never fully like clung onto even during the
Speaker 1: gay rumors. I was like, oh, I know I'm connecting
Speaker 1: on some level with this, but I don't know what.
Speaker 1: And then I just never really did you know that
Speaker 1: he was the most popular doll. Oh out of all
Speaker 1: the five, I guess that would make sense to me
Speaker 1: because he would look the most like ken blonde hair
Speaker 1: because with the justin dults like the curly the curls
Speaker 1: are just like a little tough on on plasta. Those
Speaker 1: curls were tight curls. They wore some ammonium. Ty glockily asked, curls,
Speaker 1: I mean a true springboard. It was like crazy he
Speaker 1: did have I remember in that in the video for
Speaker 1: Terran at My Heart when he is in his white
Speaker 1: I almost said wife beater. And that is a truly
Speaker 1: like that is that is a misogynistic thing from Long
Speaker 1: Island that everyone says wife beater when they when they
Speaker 1: talk about a tank that people call it that everywhere.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy. That flies out of my mouth and
Speaker 1: that language that it's just crazy. We have to check
Speaker 1: ourselves at all times. But he's in like that, what
Speaker 1: do you call it? Just a white a white tank.
Speaker 1: It's a white tank. It's insane, but it's literally replaced
Speaker 1: but what it actually is. But he's in that white
Speaker 1: tank and he is like up on the bed and
Speaker 1: he rises up out of the bed and he's like
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my God, like he's everything
Speaker 1: and more. He's the most to say the least, the most,
Speaker 1: to say the least. I want to say. We could
Speaker 1: go ahead. I was just going to ask you because
Speaker 1: this spooky high school phase is so interesting, get back
Speaker 1: to are you interested? Are you interested in maybe dipping
Speaker 1: your toe back? And even though you're so settled, I
Speaker 1: don't care that. No, no, no, he's talking about getting
Speaker 1: spooky now now ever, get spooky again. I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like, would you want to? Of course I
Speaker 1: always want to get spooky. Here's the thing. My spooky
Speaker 1: high school phase was like I was spooky like all
Speaker 1: of high school, yes, and but you know, here's the
Speaker 1: problem with me. I was spooky all high school. But
Speaker 1: I also loved designer goods, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you can't be full spook while still like loving
Speaker 1: a Mark Jacob silk top and while still like wanting
Speaker 1: AMU me bag? You know? And there were aspects of
Speaker 1: my personality that I couldn't wash away. Now in the
Speaker 1: in the age of like rag and bone and all
Speaker 1: saints and like all this stuff that you can you
Speaker 1: can't intersect a book, you could, but you know what
Speaker 1: I'm not. Uh, yes you can, but there is something
Speaker 1: I need authenticity, you know what I mean, Because there's
Speaker 1: nothing worse than unauthentic spook Honestly, there is nothing worse
Speaker 1: for me to watch because when I see someone that
Speaker 1: is unauthentic in their spookiness and like you are going
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of pain and that affects me.
Speaker 1: It does look very dust I mean because because really
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is they're trying to get
Speaker 1: like raw. And I think that's what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: I love Taylor and I'm so glad to revisit her
Speaker 1: and re embrace, but I feel like Reputation Era even
Speaker 1: now is like a little bit in authentic. That's what
Speaker 1: upset me about that album. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: not you, like this isn't you good at being that? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think she's good at being that. I don't
Speaker 1: think she's good at like look, if she wants to
Speaker 1: fully commit change your hair number one, I want to
Speaker 1: see a fucking hair change. I need a literal physical
Speaker 1: indicator that you're committing to this came back with dark hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give me like a brunette a dirty on this podcast,
Speaker 1: saying that the next that that we needed we don't
Speaker 1: have Pat Benatar right now, And I said, maybe if
Speaker 1: Taylor were smart, she would try to come back as
Speaker 1: some sort of like rock goddess when she when we
Speaker 1: didn't know what she was going to come back us,
Speaker 1: and I think she came of the way she tried
Speaker 1: to blend hip hop with rock goddess with like pop.
Speaker 1: I also, I don't need Taylor to dance, Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't want Taylor. I don't want Taylor to dance. I
Speaker 1: don't need her to like give me this weird kind
Speaker 1: of like Beyonce esque, like a bunch of people dancing
Speaker 1: with her things because it's not good, and like, well,
Speaker 1: there a difference between dancing and doing coreo. Yes, she
Speaker 1: is doing difference. There a difference. It's just a cure
Speaker 1: number sixteen. Difference between dancing and there is a huge difference.
Speaker 1: And I just I died her. I wish that she
Speaker 1: had done exactly what you're saying, like give me a
Speaker 1: dirty like dishwater. I love that term. And like play
Speaker 1: the guitar. I want to see you play the guitar
Speaker 1: and singing. I know that's my favorite. The best tailor
Speaker 1: is that she whips out the guitar and you know what,
Speaker 1: make it electric? With electric guitar and a fucking black haircut,
Speaker 1: that would have been pretty sick. And I also think
Speaker 1: that still pop music is missing, that we don't have
Speaker 1: rock goddess. We had pop rock goddesses for a second
Speaker 1: there when that was popular. We had you know, Kelly
Speaker 1: and Pink when they were like very I guess like
Speaker 1: the I guess the chick that's in Lady Antebellum is
Speaker 1: like mainstream enough that people might classify her as being
Speaker 1: a rock goddess. Who is? But but who else? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's like the only one thing that I
Speaker 1: can think of. And the only reason why I even
Speaker 1: think of Lydianntebellum is because my boyfriend likes country music. Um,
Speaker 1: we should say that Greta has that the absolute dream.
Speaker 1: I'm a boyfriend. Yesterday when we looked or this morning,
Speaker 1: we looked at the photo of all of us last
Speaker 1: night and it was like, this photo is so cool,
Speaker 1: and I was like yeah. He was like, I'm literally
Speaker 1: standing with the future of common and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you are, And do you want me to autograph it
Speaker 1: for you or something? He's the best sweet took me
Speaker 1: a long time to like respect and like a good
Speaker 1: sweet man. It's hard to accept love, I think. I
Speaker 1: think it's really hard. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: we've all relationships are always complicated, and I think that
Speaker 1: and I blame this partially on Hollywood that a lot
Speaker 1: of us think that like passion is either this like crazy,
Speaker 1: like we meet each other and we're obsessed me up
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. Life is like insane, and then like
Speaker 1: and then we start to fight, but like our fights
Speaker 1: are also passionate, and like we need to fight and
Speaker 1: let me fuck, and then it's like whatever. So I
Speaker 1: think we have it programmed somewhere in our brains are
Speaker 1: at least I did for a very long time that
Speaker 1: like fighting and this constant like torment and this like
Speaker 1: drama was was love. Like I thought that that was love,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like, well, how is it love
Speaker 1: if you're not like getting into these like crazy passionate
Speaker 1: fights and then like having weird ravenous sex are like arguing.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a really hard time dealing
Speaker 1: with that. And you know, my my parents had a
Speaker 1: terrible marriage, and I saw that as my like relationship
Speaker 1: as a child, well just parents constantly fighting and literally
Speaker 1: not liking each other. And then I think I took
Speaker 1: that on and you don't realize how that stuff completely
Speaker 1: affects you as you grow. And it's like then I
Speaker 1: found myself in these relationships, especially with in my like
Speaker 1: late teens to my mid twe until the relationship have
Speaker 1: been now actually of men that were just like honestly
Speaker 1: really shitty to me or just like gasolate me in
Speaker 1: some way, like it was always my fault. I was
Speaker 1: always doing something wrong. I remember every relationship, I always
Speaker 1: felt like I'm the reason why this isn't working. And
Speaker 1: I think that now being with someone that just like
Speaker 1: he just wants to love me and take care of me,
Speaker 1: and he's so not judgmental, and we're not in the
Speaker 1: same industry, which I he tangentially works in entertainment, but
Speaker 1: like so he understands comedy in this lifestyle and whatever,
Speaker 1: which is great, but I don't know, it's hard sometimes
Speaker 1: because he wants he's always helpful to me and he
Speaker 1: wants helped me, and he likes helping me, and I
Speaker 1: find that sometimes I'm like, you don't have to do that,
Speaker 1: Like I get shitty about it, which is not nice.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, you need to help me, and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, it's just it's because I love you.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, fine, you know. But it's so
Speaker 1: nice to be in that kind of relationship with They're
Speaker 1: hard because it's like I'm a moody psycho bitch, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And like some days, like yesterday
Speaker 1: at when we came in on a red eye and
Speaker 1: we were taking a nap at seven thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: I started to have a panic attack and he's like
Speaker 1: what And I was like, I'm not doing enough for
Speaker 1: my career and he was like what he's here. He's
Speaker 1: like it's seven thirty in the morning. Um, what's going on?
Speaker 1: And I was like you just don't understand. And then
Speaker 1: I like get round, like I need to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I'm like I'm my poop and I'm
Speaker 1: like it's like go, you know, and I'm so dramatic.
Speaker 1: I'm still like my mom, I'm so dramatic sometimes and
Speaker 1: I'm just going to get into my car and then
Speaker 1: I'm like speed away, you know, and it's like for nothing.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, He's just like you're funny
Speaker 1: and he knows being cuckoo? What is he working? Does
Speaker 1: work as he works? Um? He works at Netflix? Oh great?
Speaker 1: So that that's the perfect thing where it's like he's
Speaker 1: he understands the contours of what your career is, but
Speaker 1: he's not doing the same thing or he doesn't want
Speaker 1: the same things necessarily, you know, he is he is
Speaker 1: and just like all of us, so driven, and I
Speaker 1: think it's really hard to find someone that matches your
Speaker 1: drive because I would find that I would get really
Speaker 1: frustrated with ex boyfriends of mine that I didn't feel
Speaker 1: were as driven as mend And that's and you know what,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Like I now I'm at a place where
Speaker 1: I like, what I'm trying to do is just be
Speaker 1: like an accepting, loving person because it's so much energy
Speaker 1: gets taken from you when you're not. And don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I love dragging people and it's so much
Speaker 1: fun to do, but it's like sometimes it can just
Speaker 1: be like really exhausting and are like why am I?
Speaker 1: Why am I doing that? You know? So for all
Speaker 1: my ex boyfriends, I used to be like, what the
Speaker 1: funk is wrong with you that you don't want to
Speaker 1: do this, Like why are you not pushing yourself? And
Speaker 1: then I kind of realized now it's like, well maybe
Speaker 1: they just didn't want to. I'm like, that's fine, that's
Speaker 1: just not how I am programmed. And I think it
Speaker 1: takes a few relationships to figure that out. And I think,
Speaker 1: I know, like with my relationship that ended, it was
Speaker 1: the only one I had ever been in, and that
Speaker 1: was in the forefront of my mind the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's like, shouldn't I be learning more from more relationships?
Speaker 1: And I think to like I would seek all of
Speaker 1: my validation from other people and from this, you know,
Speaker 1: I would seek so much validation, like from other people
Speaker 1: and like from my boyfriends or something. And and now
Speaker 1: I'm just like, that's so empty. That's such an empty
Speaker 1: way to live, to constantly be seeking because you're never
Speaker 1: going to get it the way that you want, and like,
Speaker 1: it's so stupid because you need to get it from
Speaker 1: your self. But I think that that's a that's like
Speaker 1: moving to l A for me where I really feel
Speaker 1: like I'm starting this a new thing, Like I don't
Speaker 1: have the comedy community there where I went there, and
Speaker 1: I felt so insecure and I felt so not validated
Speaker 1: in what I was doing because I didn't have other
Speaker 1: and other people to say things like oh, granted, like
Speaker 1: what you guys said at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: like you got so funny, so great, and to me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, like, yeah I am. But
Speaker 1: it's been a test for me to just know that.
Speaker 1: And I think that this relationship has helped me because
Speaker 1: he seems to just know that about me. So then
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I guess I know that about me too,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think it's hard. It's just hard
Speaker 1: to find the right person. Yeah, I'm really I don't know.
Speaker 1: I really related to what you're saying because I felt
Speaker 1: like I found that in a relationship, and now not
Speaker 1: being in that relationship anymore has been the hard thing,
Speaker 1: right where now you're like, now you're like, who likes me?
Speaker 1: Do I even like me? Get one like that again?
Speaker 1: You will? You will? It just takes it's a it's
Speaker 1: a thing. But it's just like you need to also
Speaker 1: be open to it. A lot of people just like
Speaker 1: that's open to meeting people aren't open to going out.
Speaker 1: You need to be willing to put yourself out there
Speaker 1: and you need to be willing to get rejected. Yes,
Speaker 1: we need to go out. We need to go out.
Speaker 1: We going out is important. Yes, um wow, I needed
Speaker 1: to hear a lot of that. I don't know is
Speaker 1: that that's boring, especially for especially you just saying like
Speaker 1: you're never going to get it the way you want,
Speaker 1: if you're just waiting on someone else's approval, that sounds
Speaker 1: it's like such a given notion, a given thing, And like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like working working this job now is
Speaker 1: like all about seeking approval from other people. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like I'm like, oh this, I'm like, I didn't
Speaker 1: used to work like this. No, And there's something and
Speaker 1: going back to spooky authenticity, I think that likethicity a
Speaker 1: front runner. I think that my and this is something
Speaker 1: that I've always craved so deeply since the day I
Speaker 1: was born, was to just be this like incredibly authentic person,
Speaker 1: you know, And you know when you see people like
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks was born fucking cool, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: she was just cool, like Freddie Mercury fucking you know,
Speaker 1: just some people, Paul, Like some people that make you
Speaker 1: think that they're just like so cool. You've always just
Speaker 1: craved that effortlessness of being like authentically secure and cool
Speaker 1: and sure and confident, and I realized that it just
Speaker 1: actually takes so much fucking work. Takes work. And then
Speaker 1: even those people like and this is no this is
Speaker 1: no shape, but it's like you listen to his podcaster,
Speaker 1: you'd like listen to interviews, and like ru Paul is
Speaker 1: also constantly totally second guessing everything that that he's doing anyway,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's never what it's seems, even with
Speaker 1: people who seem to have it sort of like everyone
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned has such darkness and so much
Speaker 1: and and that's the crazy thing. It is interesting when
Speaker 1: I meet like I was, a friend of mine is
Speaker 1: dating this scroll who I met recently, and she just
Speaker 1: like works a very simple job that she like she's
Speaker 1: kind of indifferent about it, but like she makes really
Speaker 1: good money. She just bought a house her She's like,
Speaker 1: my work isn't my life? And I just like when
Speaker 1: she said that to me, I was like, what what
Speaker 1: do you mean? What do you do otherwise? You know,
Speaker 1: like what do you like? So you're just working? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm really good at my job. It's really
Speaker 1: straightforward the hours are good, vacations good pay, is good
Speaker 1: about a house, and that's it, And I'm like, actual, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I guess things can just be
Speaker 1: like nice, whereas every day I'm just like tired of
Speaker 1: feeling like every day is a war with myself, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's getting it's gotten so much better
Speaker 1: over the years, But so much of my spookiness was
Speaker 1: rooted in this, yes, constant like trying to be memorable
Speaker 1: and trying to be trying more than anything to be
Speaker 1: like to be like this is sucking me, Like I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck, Like I will go and buzz
Speaker 1: my head right now. You don't believe me. Watch, I
Speaker 1: will smoke nine cigarettes. I will like drink vodka straight.
Speaker 1: I'm not why did we do that. I would do
Speaker 1: that all the time in high school to be like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm doing barcodes on my arrest. I'm getting to seven,
Speaker 1: you know, like a sharpie, and you would just do
Speaker 1: like one one line for each shot you took her.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that, you know. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this yesterday when I was watching when I was
Speaker 1: watching the SNL take, and there was a man next
Speaker 1: to me, who would never applause, who wouldn't clap when
Speaker 1: it wouldn't clap, And I seriously want to turn him
Speaker 1: and I want to be like what are you trying
Speaker 1: to prove? Like what what are you trying to I
Speaker 1: understand like in high school, you know, and like the
Speaker 1: band of playing like come on everybody, and then you
Speaker 1: have to like clap and like no one thinks you're
Speaker 1: cool by not clopping, like fact, we're contributing to the
Speaker 1: positive energy. Yeah, I'm just like what you And to me,
Speaker 1: that was like his version of being like I just
Speaker 1: take a shot. Are you going to take a fucking shot?
Speaker 1: You know? And I'm just like, wow, you're angst and
Speaker 1: rebellion is so compelling, sir. Like meanwhile, what if he
Speaker 1: had like a severe arthritis and he's like clapping is
Speaker 1: actually I can't If my hands touched I'll die. Was
Speaker 1: he laughing at all? Yeah? He was like having a
Speaker 1: good time, I think, but like I was just like clap,
Speaker 1: you know. He didn't think something was funny. He just
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Speaker 1: But we must ask the question. I must ask the
Speaker 1: question that we ask all of our guests, which is
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say? Culture was
Speaker 1: for me? I think I always I just like wanted
Speaker 1: to be a star when I was really little, just
Speaker 1: always like wanted attention and wanted to be a star. Yes,
Speaker 1: I loved watching like Shirley Temple, and I love Shirley
Speaker 1: Temple movies like I got the Chili Temple doll. I
Speaker 1: like love Shirley Temple so much. Um, really I don't.
Speaker 1: I it's so funny because no one's ever I don't.
Speaker 1: I new Shirley Temples like a thing, but it's like
Speaker 1: for one for someone. One of my peers said, they
Speaker 1: love Shirley Temple. That's so funny. Well, I was like
Speaker 1: obsessed with my mom. So I was. I was a
Speaker 1: kid that was absolutely obsessed with my mom. Like my
Speaker 1: mom could do no wrong. I was my mom's shadow.
Speaker 1: I like I didn't care about toys. They're photos of
Speaker 1: me like reading, like sitting in like glasses, reading the
Speaker 1: New York Times, which I was not reading, but I
Speaker 1: would just sit there and like mom, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be heard, and like I wanted to wear power suits
Speaker 1: and like high heels and just like be her. And
Speaker 1: I think that the Shirley Temple thing probably came from
Speaker 1: my mom or she was just like, look at this
Speaker 1: little girl that like performs. And I remember I was
Speaker 1: in the like maybe I was in the fourth grade
Speaker 1: and I sobbed to my mom about how I wanted
Speaker 1: an agent. I was like, please, like you like, please
Speaker 1: get me an agent. I was like, because I'm aging,
Speaker 1: this is sick, this is wrong. I was like, fucking
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan is eleven and acting with herself like this
Speaker 1: is sick. Twins like Lizzie MacGuire killed me. I was like,
Speaker 1: this bitch thinks that she is, does McGuire? I am
Speaker 1: Lizzie McGuire. Oh my god, Wait a minute, can I
Speaker 1: say something potentially silly and dumb? In myopic, we grew
Speaker 1: up in a time where we all grew up in
Speaker 1: a time where the child, the concept of the child
Speaker 1: star like fully proliferated out into things that where it
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, you're seeing kids be in shows that
Speaker 1: are for us portrayed by children. As I think up
Speaker 1: until like maybe late seventies, early eighties, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: that like it was just just cartoon the Only Children.
Speaker 1: It was just cartoon Rogerstridge family. Sure, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: about one child family dynamic, Emily. It wasn't about one
Speaker 1: kid being the center of the whole of the whole
Speaker 1: universe whatever. But even like the Cosby Show, it was
Speaker 1: about like this family family different strokes and like growing pains.
Speaker 1: All this is all family dynamics, all family dynamic. It
Speaker 1: wasn't centered solely on the kid where it's like then
Speaker 1: you moved into the nines where it was child stories.
Speaker 1: It was the Olsen Twins, like Club Mickey mouse Club,
Speaker 1: but it was literally like I mean, I guess Mickey
Speaker 1: mouse Club back in the day, pre nineties, but like
Speaker 1: but like like fucking like Olsen Twins videos of them
Speaker 1: going to Paris just unsupervised. It's like what like this
Speaker 1: like this minute truly like making out with guys. It's
Speaker 1: it was. It was a new thing. It was a
Speaker 1: thing that just started when we were growing up, and
Speaker 1: so that fucked up everything about our concept of fame
Speaker 1: being liked, being like getting attention. I think that is
Speaker 1: like intrinsically like linked to like our general I agree
Speaker 1: with that because there was. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: anything that Even Jonathan Taylor Thomas I remember him being like,
Speaker 1: and it's it's that's very true and like a very
Speaker 1: apt right, I mean like I mean like not that
Speaker 1: like child actors weren't like didn't reistic, but like not
Speaker 1: at that level. The culture, like a culture keyed into
Speaker 1: these like lindsay like and the parents. Yes, yes, well
Speaker 1: we saw the globalization of like the media at the
Speaker 1: time when we were seeing that, I think that's why
Speaker 1: it feels this way. I do think you I feel
Speaker 1: this way, and you feel this way, and you feel
Speaker 1: this way. It's like basically but but but what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, like I think because the media was getting
Speaker 1: out of control as we aged, that's why it feels
Speaker 1: like we had finally this like centering in on these
Speaker 1: kids because they were making money. And then that's what
Speaker 1: makes it even more fucked up that like I think
Speaker 1: ten year period when we were in high school where
Speaker 1: it was cool to make fun of people who had
Speaker 1: drug problems, Like I remember doing a presentation about um
Speaker 1: drunk driving in my health class or my like humanities
Speaker 1: class or whatever in high school, and one of the
Speaker 1: beats in it was like predicting that Lindsay Lohan would
Speaker 1: die in a drunk driving accident. And I showed it
Speaker 1: to my mother and she was like, why would you
Speaker 1: do that? This isn't funny, But it's so crazy because
Speaker 1: like all my peers, nobody called it out was being
Speaker 1: not funny, whereas today it'd be like that's a sick
Speaker 1: thing to do. But that was where we were at
Speaker 1: at six Team. Also, it was the Internet. It was
Speaker 1: like the rise of the Internet and like access and
Speaker 1: seeing it and it was it is crazy to think about,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I would say that, like I
Speaker 1: A lot of those things made me be like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I want to do this, you know, and I
Speaker 1: know and then I think, I what A person that
Speaker 1: really influenced me was like Tracy Ullman, but I saw her,
Speaker 1: saw her show, and then I started watching a lot
Speaker 1: of Christopher Guest movies like that kind of stuff. Was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do this, you know, Tracy is one
Speaker 1: of the best of all time, all time. Um. But
Speaker 1: then I got all through high school, I never got
Speaker 1: into any productions and I never was like theater was
Speaker 1: just they didn't like me. Make yeah edutioned and me
Speaker 1: and Patrick Foley. However, Patrick Folly ended up booking everything
Speaker 1: when he was like the one boy left in school
Speaker 1: and very talented, and you know, then graduates with the
Speaker 1: Masters from Yell Drama, which is amazing, and then I'm
Speaker 1: also successful in my own whatever. But then I got
Speaker 1: a little side tracked because when I couldn't, I felt
Speaker 1: so rejected from all of this that I started doing photography,
Speaker 1: which is what I studied at Parson. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: I didn't know I did. And then I went through
Speaker 1: this whole thing where I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: become like a like a Cindy Shirt. Well, the first
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like an Ansel Adams, like old
Speaker 1: large back and white landscapes, like new typographic kind of photographer.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, and I love Cindy Sherman,
Speaker 1: similar to Tracy Almonds and Christopher Guests another great character
Speaker 1: people she really liked was amazing, and I love like
Speaker 1: Marilyn Minter and I love all of that kind of
Speaker 1: our you know, So this all, this all makes this
Speaker 1: is so interesting, and this all makes sense and it
Speaker 1: comes together within like how you are now where it's
Speaker 1: like someone who is like so it's like so wonderfully
Speaker 1: like thoughtful about aesthetics and about you know, presentation and
Speaker 1: about the way things Well, I just get so upset
Speaker 1: when people, especially when you when I'm coming to and
Speaker 1: this is something and I love stand up so much.
Speaker 1: I'm a stand up obviously, but like something in the
Speaker 1: stand up world, it's like, let's just look yeah, because
Speaker 1: that way, because if you look bad then it's distracting. Well,
Speaker 1: I just get upset. Like I imagine if I'm paying
Speaker 1: for a ticket right to go to a comedy club
Speaker 1: and then I and then I need to get a
Speaker 1: chewer drink minum, and then I'm watching, you know, someone
Speaker 1: on stage that like didn't even take one second to
Speaker 1: like look or just like wash your face. How do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It doesn't it's not even
Speaker 1: about I don't give a funk if your clothes are
Speaker 1: like designer or whatever. I don't care about that, just
Speaker 1: like look fresh, you know. Yeah, it's there's some sort
Speaker 1: of like anxiety that I just said that is that
Speaker 1: bad that I just I mean, I sort of a
Speaker 1: degree in this way where it's like it's not about
Speaker 1: like looking fuckable, it's that's it's about just respect, self respect,
Speaker 1: it's about self respecting, respecting other people, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, in some ways, there are some cases in
Speaker 1: which it is a fun funk you to like not
Speaker 1: look the part where very specific context is required, but
Speaker 1: overall it's like, yeah, like I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: like love dressing up and I love looking fun on stage.
Speaker 1: To me, that's just like a fun part of being
Speaker 1: on stage, Like I want to be a spectacle. Not
Speaker 1: in a bad way, but I want you know, it's
Speaker 1: like nice. That's actually one of my favorite things about
Speaker 1: doing my shows too, is like picking up because it's fun.
Speaker 1: I realized too, we say this as people that like
Speaker 1: I did, I danced growing up, so like I loved
Speaker 1: costumes and like I loved you know, I've always loved dressing.
Speaker 1: And I realized that not a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: feel that way. A lot of people. My brother does
Speaker 1: not give a fuck what he wears. He's like, this
Speaker 1: is a shirt, these are pants, these are shoes, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I find most of the time, though, when
Speaker 1: I'm putting together in my outfit, it is for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not for the audience.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm always just like oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to wear this because I wore it at that show.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's kind of nice to I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just a fun part of this and I like
Speaker 1: it for me. I really do some people clothing fully
Speaker 1: stresses them out like that it stresses me. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes I look at my closet and I'm like, oh God,
Speaker 1: I don't have a new thing to wear, Like I
Speaker 1: hate everything, hate everything. Once every three weeks this happens
Speaker 1: to me where I just hate everything I own. That
Speaker 1: happens to you, that happens to me, yeah, constantly, but
Speaker 1: then you but then you forget. You're like, oh, but
Speaker 1: I have so much shed like I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I also want to say one more thing that informed
Speaker 1: me now that I'm thinking about this, and we can stop,
Speaker 1: no please? Um. I like I loved watching movies like
Speaker 1: Now and Then. Do you guys remember that movie and
Speaker 1: Then with Christina Richie Young, Thori Birds, Melanie Griffith, Demi Moore,
Speaker 1: um oh Rita Wilson, huge cat like female friendship over
Speaker 1: the years. I loved watching that movie and I loved
Speaker 1: watching Uh Dangerous Lives of the Altar Boys with Kieren
Speaker 1: Colkin and and uh that guy who's terrible who I
Speaker 1: don't even remember his name, but anyway, I love watching
Speaker 1: those movies too, like any kind of like teen like
Speaker 1: and my friend Ali and I used to pretend like
Speaker 1: we were living in some like fifties like like biking,
Speaker 1: like pecking picnics drive through, but we didn't do. We
Speaker 1: grew up in DC, so we didn't have like fucking
Speaker 1: last bike too, and like jump in with whatever you liked?
Speaker 1: Do you hate it? Uh, it's a weird city. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed growing up there because I will say I found
Speaker 1: out that I like was around so many different kind
Speaker 1: of people. I mean, I have friends that I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen hadn't I had know people that hadn't met a
Speaker 1: Jewish person until they left high school, or hadn't been
Speaker 1: in school with someone that was like not white until
Speaker 1: they left high school. And it's like, I never that
Speaker 1: never occurred to me that like that was a thing,
Speaker 1: just because DC is such a diverse, crazy international city.
Speaker 1: Um so I love that aspect of it, which is
Speaker 1: something that I think is great and like so important,
Speaker 1: but it's weird. But I mean, have you always known
Speaker 1: that politics was like fucked up. Yeah, Well, I just
Speaker 1: remember being when Bush became president, everyone the world like exploded,
Speaker 1: and my parents were besides himself, beside himselves. We're living
Speaker 1: in d C. And like them in all of this
Speaker 1: influx of because it's such a transient city, because people
Speaker 1: move there for work, people move there to work for
Speaker 1: who's in office, and once it's done, they leave. So
Speaker 1: then out of nowhere we had all of these like
Speaker 1: Texans coming up and living there and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and a lot of like well that that girl's parents
Speaker 1: are big like Republican donors or like this, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. A lot of weird like that, And
Speaker 1: I don't know for the most part, Like my high
Speaker 1: school and DC is of super progressive, very liberal high
Speaker 1: school where I was never around like any like really conserved.
Speaker 1: That was another thing on the flip side. I was
Speaker 1: always around this very progressive, super liberal we're old And
Speaker 1: then going to I did my freshman of college at
Speaker 1: Arizona and I saw a very different side of things.
Speaker 1: And then going back to Parsons and being in New York,
Speaker 1: it was no difference. So for me, like realizing that
Speaker 1: people grow up in these like very conservative of closed
Speaker 1: minded like homophobic, racist, that that is a real thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was something that I remember I learned when
Speaker 1: I was like eighteen and out of high school. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, not everyone got this luxury of like
Speaker 1: so for those things I like DC, that there is that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but I would never live there.
Speaker 1: I would never live there. Do you see the place
Speaker 1: that to me completely lax culture? Oh? Interesting, because it's
Speaker 1: so it is it is. It does purport to be
Speaker 1: this like beacon of our American culture because you go
Speaker 1: there and it's like the monuments and but it's really
Speaker 1: look like I have friends there that are doing great things,
Speaker 1: cool things, but it's not like a place where anything.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You know, you're not moving to
Speaker 1: d C to like work in art, You're not moving
Speaker 1: tod C to work in finance. You're not moving to
Speaker 1: d C to be an actor, if you will. There
Speaker 1: are great pockets of these things there, but like I
Speaker 1: find the d C lax culture, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of that comes from the fact that it is
Speaker 1: such a transient city that you don't have It's very
Speaker 1: rare that you find true DC people that have lived
Speaker 1: there for forever that come back that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You have that in places like New York,
Speaker 1: where you have these New Yorkers that live have lived
Speaker 1: here forever and we'll live until the day that they die.
Speaker 1: And do you see, there's just not that same kind
Speaker 1: of culture. It's plant your roots there. Yeah, I'm excited
Speaker 1: to go down there at some point and do it.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, I like it down there,
Speaker 1: because I do like it down there, and I think
Speaker 1: we do now when I go back and doing shows there.
Speaker 1: There's a great comedy but they're smart, very smart, and
Speaker 1: it's a really fun, smart crowd. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: Like people are probably gonna drag me for saying that
Speaker 1: I think that. I just think it's like a different
Speaker 1: kind of culture. And also I haven't lived there since
Speaker 1: I was eighteen, so I'm sure it's a nightmare right now. Well,
Speaker 1: my friends that lived there, right now, I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? You know again, a lot of d C
Speaker 1: is I think still liberal, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's challenging. It's a shock when this happens,
Speaker 1: and I know everyone is beside themselves and I think
Speaker 1: to be I don't know. To be like a Trump
Speaker 1: supporter in on a coast to me is very crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it really happens. But you ever since Trump before,
Speaker 1: I was like, she went to that schools as you
Speaker 1: went to and connecting it. Yeah, and then she went
Speaker 1: my she my sister went to Pen and she went
Speaker 1: to Pen. Did they know each other. No, she's a
Speaker 1: little older than my sister. Yeah. She to me is
Speaker 1: the darkest, spookiest figure figure of them all. To be honest,
Speaker 1: you know, spooky is like too kind of a word
Speaker 1: to describe her. She's like evil. She to me is
Speaker 1: full on evil. I'm so tired of using the word
Speaker 1: complicit with her because it's like she's like actively And
Speaker 1: it's so funny how after the synagogue shooting, all these
Speaker 1: headlines come out. We're like Ivanka and Jared convinced Donald
Speaker 1: Trump to put out an uh an anti anti Semitism,
Speaker 1: like a to denounce anti Semitism. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well don't like that shouldn't be necessary, and she is like,
Speaker 1: it's it's such a weird pr move for her to like,
Speaker 1: let's just just protect her own image. It's it's it
Speaker 1: all feels so honestly for her to pretend like it's
Speaker 1: it's one thing for Trump to pretend that we're all
Speaker 1: this dumb because he's he's he's said before like I
Speaker 1: will use dumb people like he's literally said like I
Speaker 1: will if I run for president, I'll run as a
Speaker 1: Republican because they are the easier voters to control. These
Speaker 1: words have come out of his mouth. You can actually
Speaker 1: source this. But for her to come from like where
Speaker 1: she comes from, and to be young and to be
Speaker 1: this person who like is also connected to Jared who
Speaker 1: was like young, had liberal friends and like they were
Speaker 1: but for all intensive preposes liberal people, and for her
Speaker 1: to act like we are this dumb, to to act
Speaker 1: like we're gonna buy this like message of like oh
Speaker 1: my god, isn't that horrible what happened? Like we see
Speaker 1: you like we see you. Do you see that Nelly
Speaker 1: apartment on Colbert talking about how she used to be
Speaker 1: and used to be friends. Yeah, that's insane. I just
Speaker 1: I just look, she probably endured a shipload of abuse
Speaker 1: from her father growing up. Do you really think so?
Speaker 1: It's it's like the whole like, oh my god, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump wants to suck her his daughter is like sexualizing.
Speaker 1: Sexual is very sad and and I'm sure her childhood
Speaker 1: was very dark and filled with a lot of abuse
Speaker 1: in many ways. I never, I never, I never think
Speaker 1: about that. I'm sure that that's a real thing for her.
Speaker 1: But it's the all part to me, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard because part of me is like, is
Speaker 1: it like Stockholm syndrome, you know what I mean, where
Speaker 1: it's like she can't help herself for something or I
Speaker 1: don't know. But then once you the evil part to
Speaker 1: me is when you become a parent two kids, and
Speaker 1: when your father is the president and is doing things
Speaker 1: to literally destroy families, to be so sick in your
Speaker 1: head that you can't be like you can't even say
Speaker 1: that it's wrong. It's like, just say that it's wrong,
Speaker 1: Just say something to me that's evil, because then, as
Speaker 1: her child, I would then be like, what the funk
Speaker 1: was wrong with you that you couldn't have said anything?
Speaker 1: She just is so complicit and shitty, and that is evil.
Speaker 1: Being complicit is evil. Oh um, well that was like
Speaker 1: a beautiful slow burning But I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: isn't it No? No? I mean, she's beyond I don't
Speaker 1: think any now like one time we did our, we
Speaker 1: did our. I think his first or second, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And I put Donald Trump in the
Speaker 1: trouball and poor Monty Goes has picked it out, and
Speaker 1: it was like, you can't even do it. I don't
Speaker 1: think I should never have put it in there, because like,
Speaker 1: you can't do it, because where then do you start.
Speaker 1: It's an impossible bar to meat because it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's, it's not. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: It's go to hell, bitch. It's like I fantasize, like
Speaker 1: I hope he wrots in a jail cell. Oh there.
Speaker 1: There is a part of me that And I think
Speaker 1: about this in two ways. I think about it and
Speaker 1: I think about it with what's going to happen to
Speaker 1: him inevitably, And it's two things I do believe in,
Speaker 1: like some sort of karmic thing, like people do get
Speaker 1: what they deserve. And I think that his his life
Speaker 1: has to end in a dark way. And I don't
Speaker 1: say that as someone that wishes evil on the world.
Speaker 1: I just think he will get what's coming to him,
Speaker 1: whether it's prison or what I think that will happen.
Speaker 1: And also with I hope and I don't know what
Speaker 1: we're who we're all going to get behind, But I
Speaker 1: desperately want a woman of color to beat him in
Speaker 1: the presidential race, just like I desperately wanted to be
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, Like I I want to throw all my
Speaker 1: support Barhinard because I just want women of color to
Speaker 1: see that like there undying support of like what was
Speaker 1: right this whole time, because they are the only demographic
Speaker 1: that is consistently fought for what's right and always and
Speaker 1: and they're the most trampled people in this country and
Speaker 1: in this world. And I just I don't know if
Speaker 1: it will happen, but I just I desperately want that,
Speaker 1: and I see that's what should happen, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just get I start a second, guess everything about
Speaker 1: everyone we could put up, and I get. So it's
Speaker 1: scary when you think too that the way our system,
Speaker 1: our voting system is currently, the way gerrymandering works, the
Speaker 1: way congressional districting lines are drawn, that is a whole
Speaker 1: other fucked thing. And also, let's not forget we still
Speaker 1: have the electoral college, which is extremely, extremely archaic and
Speaker 1: it's like Hillary won the popular vote. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I'm always like, oh right, but they were still
Speaker 1: close to four million other people that wanted people. That
Speaker 1: is the disheartening part of all of this. And it
Speaker 1: it matters when we vote in primaries like people do
Speaker 1: it on Tuesday, because census is happening. That's when a
Speaker 1: lot of the redistricting is happening, when hopefully we can
Speaker 1: get out of these They're trying to play dirty with that.
Speaker 1: You know, No, it's just it's really scary. It's a
Speaker 1: scary time. And I would love for Kamala. Kamala, Yes,
Speaker 1: I would love for there's a lot of I talked
Speaker 1: to Nico about this, who like was just our friend
Speaker 1: who's lives in LA. He's a lawyer and he's like
Speaker 1: a big supporter of hers. He's she's his senator and
Speaker 1: she was out there stumping up for the midterms and
Speaker 1: just talking about the positives to having someone like her
Speaker 1: run where that would motivate women of color. Who are
Speaker 1: the people who volunteer to go in the grassroots campaigning.
Speaker 1: This is what wins elections now, those the women that volunteer,
Speaker 1: Those that volunteer, and also you know with Kamala you
Speaker 1: do have like and I do think this is important,
Speaker 1: especially nowadays when you have a celebritized UM political machine.
Speaker 1: Is there is like a glam factor there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There is like you can see people
Speaker 1: putting her on a poster, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you can get behind her. She's a forceful and charismatic speaker.
Speaker 1: She's prosecutorial in the way that she talks to people
Speaker 1: in the Senate, and she would be able to handle him.
Speaker 1: The problem with what Donald Trump, outside of him just
Speaker 1: being a problem in general, is this change in our
Speaker 1: political spectrum of being like, oh, you can just have
Speaker 1: no background in politics or policy or law and still
Speaker 1: be president. So that is just crazy. Everyone, I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point will have been It's probably over. Everyone
Speaker 1: should listened to Bagman by Rachel Maddow. It's a new
Speaker 1: podcasted about that um and it's it's this eerie thing
Speaker 1: of her talking about Spirit Agnew who's Nixon's vice president
Speaker 1: during Watergate and just to his vice president. But um,
Speaker 1: he was sort of like this precursor to Trump where
Speaker 1: he was this political outsider who came in who would
Speaker 1: like shut down uh like stuff at his rallies who
Speaker 1: would say like really, um, just white nationalists things, and
Speaker 1: then people got behind it in this weird way where
Speaker 1: people are like, wait, this is working, this is like
Speaker 1: having an effect, and so and so. Richel Manto's whole
Speaker 1: thing now is that like he like he was stopped
Speaker 1: and like this has this. It's not that this is
Speaker 1: without president like president like outsiders come in all the
Speaker 1: time in the cyclical way, and like this is Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and all these outside this this wave of like, oh,
Speaker 1: unqualified people running for office is not necessarily a new thing,
Speaker 1: and that it's been sort of quashed before and we
Speaker 1: just have to like and then Rachel Mattoll always says,
Speaker 1: like on her show night after night, she's like I
Speaker 1: will believe that there will be leadership to come and
Speaker 1: like change. That's like that I am sure of. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's important to to maintain some level
Speaker 1: of belief that like it will change. It has everything
Speaker 1: and it always does. That's the whole. It's a cyclic thing.
Speaker 1: It's just I remember like thinking learning about like civil
Speaker 1: rights and like stuff for jets and all of these
Speaker 1: things being like oh, watching that will never something that
Speaker 1: will never happen in our lifetime. I remember thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll never watch something, You'll never have to fight for something,
Speaker 1: will never have to watch it fall apart in a
Speaker 1: real way where I remember like even thinking about like protesting,
Speaker 1: being like out like we'll never have to do that,
Speaker 1: or just feeling like wow, like I wish there was
Speaker 1: something that we could all like really band together and
Speaker 1: believe in. You know what I mean. And it is
Speaker 1: very crazy that this is happening. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a very very dark time. Yeah, but we should end
Speaker 1: things on a light or not. And we're gonna. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, even though this has been and
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, the past ten minutes have been.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The state of our world, yes, um,
Speaker 1: but we have with us An this is actually I
Speaker 1: think you've done the most. You've done, You and Pat
Speaker 1: have done the most. But but I always whenever I'm
Speaker 1: sucking around Greta, I'm like, all right, if we're here
Speaker 1: doing a show, we must have. We must have. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite. It's my favorite show. Do you have something? Yes,
Speaker 1: I have something? Okay, you want to start? I would
Speaker 1: like to start. You would like to start? This is
Speaker 1: Matt Row, and this is going to be wild. This
Speaker 1: is Matt Row. This is I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Kids
Speaker 1: at the Magic Kingdom, you shouldn't be here. You know what,
Speaker 1: It's not for you anymore. It's for the kids that
Speaker 1: grew up that can because guess what, all your dad's
Speaker 1: you need to take a parenting lesson, and you you
Speaker 1: need to get the funk out here. And if you're
Speaker 1: gonna have your fucking camera on flash on these rides, bitch,
Speaker 1: fucking pay attention to the fucking things that they tell
Speaker 1: you on the line the whole time, which is no
Speaker 1: flash photography. And then you're fucking stupid kid sees you
Speaker 1: not follow the rules, and then they're fucking shipping all
Speaker 1: over the goddamn grounds. And all the fucking mothers who
Speaker 1: have a problem with me for being at the fucking
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom can get a fucking grip because I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. You coming up and yelling at me
Speaker 1: like I didn't pay the same ticket, your ticket was cheaper,
Speaker 1: because it's the child I paid more. I deserve more,
Speaker 1: fuck you because I saw we're done I'm sorry a meme.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw this name this very angry mother.
Speaker 1: There was an angry mother, bitch, and she had had
Speaker 1: it with She called someone a slut, she called someone
Speaker 1: she said there was a C word in slutty shorts,
Speaker 1: trying to get a chicken wing. My favorite thing that
Speaker 1: she said was, um, this is all like a like sheleica.
Speaker 1: But then she goes, uh, you you young people will
Speaker 1: never know the joy of buying your child. Mickey Mouse
Speaker 1: ears after a long day of screaming at them or something.
Speaker 1: She was outing herself as a bad parent. Which I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I'm furious because the behavior is irresponsible and
Speaker 1: and they must go and honestly, fair, it's fair. You
Speaker 1: know what. You go to Epcot, honey, you go to
Speaker 1: Walt Disney World, Hollywood Studios, you go to Animal Kingdom,
Speaker 1: you have the time of your life. You step into
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom. It's a fucking zoo. And it's because these kids.
Speaker 1: Take then take all the kids to Epcot, as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, take them to Epcott, have them go
Speaker 1: around the world, culture the culture, and then caught his culture.
Speaker 1: Honestly culture, I've got his culture. Gorgeous the experimental prototype
Speaker 1: community of tomorrow. It has failed as an idea because
Speaker 1: now they're using their I P you're upset. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm trying to I'm trying to move us along.
Speaker 1: Can make one point, they've decided to make world showcases
Speaker 1: like thing for their intellectual property, and that's a no.
Speaker 1: And also, a future world is not the future. Future
Speaker 1: world is no longer the future because it's become too
Speaker 1: hard to break the future. Will there even be one?
Speaker 1: This is bowen Yang. I don't think so, honey. And
Speaker 1: as time begins now, I don't think so, honey. The
Speaker 1: fucking idiot who emailed our seak treatment slash last Culture
Speaker 1: is just crossover event Advice Hour and ask some fucking
Speaker 1: stupid question about there about moving to a new city. Okay,
Speaker 1: good luck, but they ended their They ended their question
Speaker 1: with also, are we living in a post I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, world it's getting old. And I immediately
Speaker 1: archived it. I was like, none of us, Matt, Patt
Speaker 1: and Katherine are not seeing this bullshit, because how fucking
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, You're able to like shoot on my
Speaker 1: art all you want in the privacy of your own home,
Speaker 1: don't do it to me when we're opening up like
Speaker 1: we're we're giving you a channel, a direct line to us.
Speaker 1: That's so fucking rude. Also, there's plenty where where that
Speaker 1: came from. I don't know. Matt and I have fucking
Speaker 1: ideas up up our assets. We have so many ideas.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to fucking douche them out from the lining
Speaker 1: of my bowels because that's where they come from. I
Speaker 1: work from within my gut, so all my elementary ideas
Speaker 1: will come spilling forth. I will literally shift on you
Speaker 1: with all the ideas that we have for the podcast,
Speaker 1: how dare you should on this segment that has brought
Speaker 1: people joy? And I normally don't talk about my work
Speaker 1: in this way where but it's I think, I think
Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a good thing, and how
Speaker 1: dare you? And that's well over one minute. I was fans.
Speaker 1: You've attacked the fans, and I have to say that
Speaker 1: this person wasn't a fan. This person directed. This person
Speaker 1: directed their question at Patton Captain. Great you because we're
Speaker 1: all on the email and if you're this is a
Speaker 1: treatment as dirty fans that I'm going to throw it out.
Speaker 1: They were fans they don't. You're stoking the flames of
Speaker 1: this conflict that was say that that was created by Joel.
Speaker 1: First of all, don't play into this. You're playing not
Speaker 1: even talented. Okay, well, so I'm just this. This particular
Speaker 1: person I don't care to know their name just upset me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no one's, no one's, no one's
Speaker 1: seeing this is a business model that says Hills all
Speaker 1: the time. Attack the fans, especially a real culture number
Speaker 1: fifty four, attack the fans. Okay, this is Gretta titleman's
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, close this out. We both
Speaker 1: just we were really both very on brand. I'm like,
Speaker 1: really stressing that brand. But you were defending your art, honey,
Speaker 1: and that's what you should do, you know. I'm like you, guys,
Speaker 1: I do have a champ. I am an all Teimer
Speaker 1: you are. I think I'm gonna just okay, do I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna do. I think I'm gonna do one
Speaker 1: that I've been thinking for a while. That sounds great,
Speaker 1: This is great time wins. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: and her time starts now, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Pashmina's okay, if you are wearing a fucking pashmina and
Speaker 1: it is not kashmir or a designer. Get it out
Speaker 1: of my fucking face. I am sick of these girls
Speaker 1: pairing a formal look with an acrylic pagemin I really am. Also,
Speaker 1: if you are chilly, bitch, get a jacket. Do not
Speaker 1: look cold. Do not look me in the eyes cold
Speaker 1: at the wedding wrapping yourself in a pashmina. You know
Speaker 1: it was a bad choice and it doesn't look good.
Speaker 1: Pains are still a thing. Also, summer scarves just gonna
Speaker 1: tag it on. Take the book and summer scarf off.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of these accessories. I'm sick of a trash accessor. Okay,
Speaker 1: I do it downgrades. The look also reminds me of
Speaker 1: my step mom. So there's that, and just pashmina's as
Speaker 1: a whole. It's like, don't cheapen yourself, you know, make
Speaker 1: it elevated. Give me something more, give me a give
Speaker 1: me a fur, give me a feather, give me something
Speaker 1: more rich like a pagemina. My fucking face, this isn't nine.
Speaker 1: I'm not at your bot mitzvah, you know, so fuck off.
Speaker 1: Five seconds remember actud Mike dropped last time with the
Speaker 1: fresh then that's one minute them well. And I also
Speaker 1: feel the same way about sucking beanies, like get a
Speaker 1: beanie out of my face. You know, Okay, you've been
Speaker 1: talking about doing this pashmina one for a long time.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of feelings about that. They're just
Speaker 1: you can get a lot. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: cheap pashminas that exists in the world, and they make
Speaker 1: the they make the integrity of a good scarf just
Speaker 1: watered down, and that is fucked up in front of you.
Speaker 1: I will judge you, God bless, I will judge you
Speaker 1: a few mina. Just get out of here. Um, if
Speaker 1: you can buy it off a stand on the street,
Speaker 1: was going to be that guy. Know it was going
Speaker 1: to be that. I had a street pretzel yesterday. Wow.
Speaker 1: I see, like like every tourist in the world and
Speaker 1: famous fictional New Yorker Carrie Bradshaw, I bought a fucking
Speaker 1: pretzel off the street. Did carry by a pretzelf? She always?
Speaker 1: And she or she was like fake eating a hot dog,
Speaker 1: like sucking down a wiener. Fuck her, Fuck her, we're
Speaker 1: getting out of culture. Fuck just say that, like, let's
Speaker 1: talk about real Hollywood ruining ship hot dogs okay, makes
Speaker 1: them look so much more glamor. Alright, we gotta go.
Speaker 1: But I would vote for you for president. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank you, because this is the this is the no
Speaker 1: nonsense bitch we need. I would fucking be a great president.
Speaker 1: I can see. I see the split screen between her,
Speaker 1: between Greta and Donald, and I'm not even worried what
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. Yeah, I know. And they wouldn't
Speaker 1: know what to do with that. He get it hard.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, what, yeah, spooky? Is that? Okay? This
Speaker 1: sounds gross? That one needs to be? Is that what
Speaker 1: needs to happen? He needed be? Does he need to
Speaker 1: be sexually so beated? On national national television, international television
Speaker 1: to be continue to be continued. We finished every episode
Speaker 1: with the song okay, okay, oh now doing the pop version.
Speaker 1: That's where will be a chase one dress place for you?
Speaker 1: Can we do the harmony me? I was trying to
Speaker 1: go up the third and then by bye. This has
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