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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: It's Lala Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, Lala, Hello, gorgeous, Welcome

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Speaker 2: back to untraditionally, Lala. It is yours truly, and I'm

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Speaker 2: freaking the fuck out. I'm gonna read your bio so

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Speaker 2: you get all the credit. Okay, I have Christa b Allen, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You guys know that she is an actress, musician, a

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Speaker 2: content creator. She's best known for her role as young

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Speaker 2: Jenna Rink in one of MY most favorite movies, thirteen

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Speaker 2: going on thirty. That movie slaps, okay, laps so hard. Also,

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Speaker 2: you were Charlotte Grayson on ABC's drama Revenge. That also

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Speaker 2: so I rewatched that like a few months ago.

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Speaker 1: That also slaps. Oh my, are you okay? I just

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Speaker 1: love you.

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Speaker 2: When I met you at the iHeart Party, I was like,

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Speaker 2: holy fuck Holy it was like instant. It was instant connection.

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Speaker 2: This this blew my mind. So you're a native Californian

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Speaker 2: and you're the youngest of nine siblings that I no

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Speaker 2: and I can't wait to deep dive into that. Christa

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Speaker 2: has spent much of her life in the industry. She

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Speaker 2: has recently expanded her reach beyond acting over the years, writing, producing,

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Speaker 2: and fronting the musical duo.

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Speaker 1: Poor Vu did I say it? Yeah? This sexy accent, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Palfe si magnavique.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: Yet no radibal applause for you. Welcome, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: You know, the moment we met at the iHeart event,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we instantly hit it off. And I

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Speaker 2: believe that saying where like the the eyes are the

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Speaker 2: window to the soul. Yep, and I loved your soul.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way. And it's not often that

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Speaker 1: you have such an instant connection with someone. No, I instantly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt the same thing. I was like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: you're super spiritual, aren't you, And you're like the most

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Speaker 1: and then we got into the deepest topics in the

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Speaker 1: first five minutes and it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: It was incredible, and I felt so seen by you,

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Speaker 2: like I brought up I think I was talking about

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Speaker 2: my kids or something, because you were there with your

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Speaker 2: friend Emily. Yes, and she was on my podcast years

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Speaker 2: ago and I just found her. I think I told

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Speaker 2: you this at the party, and I told Emily this,

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Speaker 2: You're the reason why one of my nights dands is

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Speaker 2: full of lube because I asked her what's the one

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Speaker 2: thing that's so underrated, and she was like, lube.

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Speaker 1: Emily is a lube evangelist and a toy evangelist. She's

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Speaker 1: really opened my eyes to that whole world as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like, what like sex toys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously I wasn't like opposed to them before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the way she talks about them as like a

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Speaker 1: part of one's overall sex life rather than replacing something, right,

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Speaker 1: just kind of integrating them into your sex life, which

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Speaker 1: for me at the moment is non existent. So dory

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Speaker 1: from that, they are replacing the sex life. Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're standing in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that they're standing in.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to use that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a fan of the sex toys by the way,

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to get too much into it,

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Speaker 2: because I don't want to make you feeluncmfortable. I'mnna make

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Speaker 2: you feelunomfortable. Maybe just let me know and I'll shut

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Speaker 2: the fuck up. But when you're with your person or

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Speaker 2: whoever you're being intimate with, you need to have a

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Speaker 2: vibrator for his balls. And then I recently ventured into dildo's.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm a whack job, but there's this one

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Speaker 2: that the setting it's just like it like just moves

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Speaker 2: like this, but then it has beads that then start

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Speaker 2: and then it has the hook on the top that vibrates.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, with toys that are being made like this,

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Speaker 2: they will be replacing men. Truthfully, you don't even have

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Speaker 2: to say anything. That's that's my take.

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Speaker 1: I'm open to it all. And now that we've got Ai,

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Speaker 1: you've got someone to talk to, you've got all the

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Speaker 1: physical parts of it's what's to miss.

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Speaker 2: I mean, men should really be worried. They truly should be.

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Speaker 1: They should really be. I sat with a friend of

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Speaker 1: mine the other night. He happens to be a homosexual

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Speaker 1: and has a bunch of close girlfriends, and he's like, girl,

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Speaker 1: everyone's turning to the other side. Now everyone has a

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Speaker 1: little lesbian relationship.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, really, I know, it's like, yeah, they've got

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Speaker 2: it figured out. Yeah, I'm one vagina away from that happening. Truthfully, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have to ask you about this nine kids?

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Speaker 1: Yes, what not?

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Speaker 2: And were some oopsies or like was this the plan

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Speaker 2: for your parents? They always wanted a big family.

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Speaker 1: It's not as scary as it sounds initially because it's

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Speaker 1: by marriage. So it's my mom and my stepdad. Oh yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so my mom has four boys and my stepdad has

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Speaker 1: four boys. They all are, however, older than me, which

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Speaker 1: was kind of an interesting experience growing up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so your mom came into the relationship with four

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Speaker 2: boys and you, yes, and then the stepdad. And how

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Speaker 2: old were you when they got married.

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Speaker 1: I think I was seven or eight? Was that how

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Speaker 1: old was the oldest? I don't know. There's quite an

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Speaker 1: age difference, yes, but yeah, he's always been in the picture,

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Speaker 1: so it kind of felt like we were a family, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're not like physically close. That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I have to imagine that they're very protective of.

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Speaker 1: You, very protective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It created this interesting combination in me which I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel like you have a similar energy, which is like,

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Speaker 1: I'm very, very tough okay at the core, but I

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Speaker 1: also was kind of treated like a princess because I

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Speaker 1: was the youngest and the only girl. So I have

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Speaker 1: this very like feminine, self delicate thing, but also don't

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Speaker 1: fuck with me, but also don't fuck with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was having a conversation the other

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Speaker 2: day with how hard it is because I have a

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Speaker 2: younger brother who's thirty two, and then my older brother

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Speaker 2: from my dad's first marriage is almost fifty so and

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Speaker 2: there's so they're so kind and sweet, and my dad

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Speaker 2: was so kind and sweet, and I grew up with

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Speaker 2: nothing but amazing male faces around me. But I found

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Speaker 2: that when I went into the world, I was constantly

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Speaker 2: having to put on alpha energy and really embrace my

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Speaker 2: masculinity because in this day and age, the good men

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Speaker 2: are really hard to find. They're few and far between.

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Speaker 2: So I have to match male energy because I'm constantly

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Speaker 2: going up against toxic masculinity, and I am dying for

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Speaker 2: the day that I can embrace my feminine side again.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is, you're capable of it, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm capable of it too, and so that side

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Speaker 1: can be brought out of you. What I've witnessed in

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Speaker 1: several circumstances I've been in is, you know, when this

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Speaker 1: another woman around who presents herself as completely incapable of

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Speaker 1: showing up in that way of finding that like masculine

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Speaker 1: capable part of herself. Yeah, and the man ends up

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Speaker 1: running to save her. Oh so it's almost like weaponized

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Speaker 1: incompetence female version. Yeah. So because you're capable, because you

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Speaker 1: have that within you, they pull it out of you.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, But if you didn't have

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Speaker 1: that in you, they couldn't bring it out of you. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a really great example. So I was

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Speaker 1: on vacation one time with my Italian prince boyfriend when

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Speaker 1: I was in my early twenties tell me more, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we're having a wonderful time, and my loud mouth,

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Speaker 1: as always, was posting it all over Instagram, how wonderful

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Speaker 1: a time we were having in his family's castle in Italy,

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Speaker 1: and another girlfriend of his at home then developed a

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Speaker 1: tragic brain injury where you know, she hit her head

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Speaker 1: or hold a job. Ever again, she was like actively

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Speaker 1: dying while we were having a great time on vacation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know he had to be on the phone

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Speaker 1: the whole time with her, like taking care of her

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Speaker 2: Now, when you say this was a girlfriend they were

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Speaker 2: like an intimate girlfriend or like just a friend that

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Speaker 2: was a girl, intimate girlfriend, intimate, yes, yeah, did you

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Speaker 2: know that he was being intimate with other girls?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I did have an explored non monogamy at some

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Speaker 2: Okay, love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But then of course as soon as we return

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Speaker 1: from vacation, she was fine. Oh, everything went completely back

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Speaker 1: to normal. But a really great way to you know,

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Speaker 1: is to be completely helpless. Wow. Yeah, holy shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of I find that a lot of

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Speaker 2: You know what, You're opening my eyes a lot because

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Speaker 2: I have actually and and tell me if I if

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Speaker 2: you see things differently, men who are of a certain

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Speaker 2: age which is older than me, they say that they

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Speaker 2: love like an independent woman who has their own thing going,

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Speaker 2: but they actually don't. They want someone that they can

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Speaker 2: take care of and baby and be the male presence. Right.

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Speaker 2: The younger men, because they've grown up in a different generation,

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Speaker 2: actually do want the woman to like thrive on her

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Speaker 2: The older men want to save a chick. They do

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Speaker 2: put them in their place, who doesn't need them. It's

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Speaker 2: almost like they feel like we're taking their masculinity from them.

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Speaker 1: Have you found that. I have found that time and

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Speaker 1: want a really powerful, capable, successful woman. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: the knees and make her unable to work or you know,

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Speaker 1: create that same success in her life. Yeah, they want

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Speaker 2: I talk about this all the time, like any of

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Speaker 2: to like pay my rent or and it puts me

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Speaker 2: back into a place where I'm like, no, no, no, he's

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Speaker 2: trying to take your independence. That's what's happening. You're looking

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Speaker 2: at it like, how kind and thoughtful He's taking some

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Speaker 2: pressure off of me. No, No, he is cutting you

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Speaker 2: off at the knees.

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Speaker 1: He wants to own you, and he wants to control

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Speaker 1: you most of the time. Most of the times, there

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Speaker 1: are wonderful relationships. There are marriages that work out very

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Speaker 1: well where you know the man is taking the brunt

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Speaker 1: of the responsibility in that department. But yeah, I've found

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Speaker 1: in most cases they're trying to own you.

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Speaker 2: What experiences did you have to lead you to that

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Speaker 2: thought process? Because I think at the iHeart party we

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Speaker 2: talked that you have you have dated people with tons

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Speaker 2: of money, no money, older than you, younger than you,

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Speaker 2: like you've tried it all.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, so many people know that I moved

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Speaker 1: to Miami for about three years.

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Speaker 2: How old were you when you did that.

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Speaker 1: I just moved back in April, so that was yeah,

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Speaker 1: so recently. Yeah, it just happened. It felt like this

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Speaker 1: kind of soul mission. I was really pulled there. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know why, but I really wanted to live there,

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Speaker 1: and so I did and I learned a lot. But

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because just prior to leaving to Miami,

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Speaker 1: I want to do this for real.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you're going out on dates with other people, just

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Speaker 2: It's it's almost like a high for them. I think

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Speaker 2: It's a constant. They love the highest of highs, and

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Speaker 2: I see them all the time, I'm like, ugh, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a bitch, this is why you don't have a husband.

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Speaker 2: I've been in a program for my drinking today, I've

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Speaker 2: And you know, I do reality TV, whereas like you

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Speaker 1: So don't undersell yourself. What you do is it is

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you saying that. And I'm still having to learn,

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Speaker 1: Do you know it actually doesn't affect my nervous system

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Speaker 1: beautiful experiences. But yeah, there is this recurrent theme, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it has become my platform in life to or

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Speaker 2: Correct. I mean, you and I have both been to nightclubs.

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Speaker 1: being offered some gift, right, Yeah, not realizing that they're

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Speaker 1: Nobody tells you that at the beginning. Now, but it

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Speaker 1: You are a product to be traded. You are a

434
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: part of this account and so none of those experiences

435
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: have any value if the woman's not there, So you're

436
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: not getting anything for free. It's not free.

437
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: No, never you ever paying in your life force, Yes,

438
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: Bethany Frankel said if you and she used she used

439
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: Mary when if you marry for money, you pay for

440
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: the rest of your life. I think anytime you do

441
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: anything where the value comes in the form of a dollar,

442
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: I'm spending money on a yacht, I'm spending money on

443
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: a dinner or a nightclub experience, you are then going

444
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: to have to pay for me with your soul. And

445
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: I never realized that until I started gaining the thirty

446
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: thousand foot view and realizing, wow. My mom always told me,

447
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: and although she you know, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah,

448
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: although she never experienced this sort of life, she always

449
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: told me, you continue. And my parents were very happily married. Right,

450
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: You always keep your independence. If a man comes in

451
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: and wants to take care of you, you continue to work,

452
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: You continue to shove your pennies away. And thank god

453
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: I listened to her in that moment, because a rainy

454
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: day will come. You don't know what form it's going

455
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: to come in, whether it's infidelity, your man hits on

456
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: hard times and can't you know, afford the lifestyle anymore.

457
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: You're at some point going to have to use your

458
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: rainy day fund. Yes, right, yes, And I never experienced.

459
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: I always experienced like come and have the free dinner,

460
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: or you know, you're invited on a yacht.

461
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: Thank goodness.

462
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if the universe just didn't have that

463
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: in store for me. Most would probably use my ex

464
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: as an example, but for me, I was like, I

465
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: was into him. But I did see a lot of

466
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: girls who would come out and they were living these

467
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: like their instagrams were crazy. I was like, this girl

468
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: lives the fucking life.

469
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

470
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: Cut to where we are now. She's back living in

471
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Idaho and has found a great guy, but has you know,

472
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 2: I'm sure had some experiences in the big city that

473
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: chewed her up and spit her out. And it's very

474
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: sad to me because you're right, you do think like, oh,

475
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: they're offering this to me. You feel like it's a gift,

476
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: and it's not a gift. Yeah.

477
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: Well, and it's the way it's presented to you and

478
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: to me, there are so many parallels to the experiences

479
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: I had growing up in Hollywood, where you know, half

480
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: of the opportunities that come your way, it's like, well,

481
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: we don't have budget, but it's an amazing opportunity for

482
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: you to come spend your life force energy for a

483
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: week a month, giving it to our project where we

484
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: make money. Yeah, but not for you.

485
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, you get to be here. You get

486
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: to be here. How lucky are you? But I feel

487
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: like you and probably myself, we become a liability to

488
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: the system because we see it for what it is.

489
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: That's why they get so angry when we speak.

490
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering because you started acting at the age

491
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: of nine. You were put into like you said, you

492
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: wanted to do acting classes, and you like really dove

493
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: into Hollywood, yes, and the lights. Did you feel like

494
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: you were in the cult?

495
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Okay? So again, the word cult was probably not the

496
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: right word to use. What would it be, okay, cult

497
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: of personality? I don't know. I honestly don't know the

498
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: right term to use. Okay. All I can say is

499
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: I would not have moved across the country to be

500
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: with someone had there not been a very clear, you know,

501
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: trajectory for our future.

502
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

503
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: There was, like like it was a very beautiful relationship,

504
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: and I was doing a job that was not perfect,

505
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, it was not the ideal thing for me

506
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: to do be doing at the time, but it did

507
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: pay the bills. And he gave me an ultimatum, okay,

508
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: that I could be with him and quit my job

509
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: or not be with him and keep my job. So

510
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: prompted me to move, forced me to quit my job,

511
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: and then I found myself in a situation where I

512
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: was essentially part of a very large group mmm, Okay

513
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: that I didn't know about, or I would not have

514
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: moved across the country. Right, consider this means selling all

515
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: my stuff. I moved with my dog like it's a

516
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: big undertaking, right. And then when I got here, I

517
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: found out there were all these others.

518
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: Like you, other women, yes, okay, and periphery.

519
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: But the craziest part was that everyone else seemed to

520
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: be okay with it.

521
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: You know.

522
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but like La La,

523
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: if you if you date someone and you guys have

524
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: a sexual relationship and it's the whole thing, that man

525
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: for me is off limits for the rest of our lives. Yeah,

526
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. I don't look at that person.

527
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't like that is your man, even if he's

528
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: your axe, that's your thing. But you know, there was

529
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: this whole crew of like people who we're all friends

530
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: and all okay with it, and then they would go

531
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: on vacation and it like everyone was okay with it.

532
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if he gave everyone else the heads up,

533
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: like if he was more forthcoming or if it was

534
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: I also think.

535
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because girls do not end up

536
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: in the situation where they're moving for someone if they

537
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: don't think they're the only one.

538
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I'm saying this, and we're

539
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: not using his name, but to me, it sounds like

540
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: a grooming process. What's happening?

541
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, and these girls would they would watch

542
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: him with not the act itself, but they would see

543
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: him with girl after girl after girl and just be

544
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: like okay, and they would still go for it and

545
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: still be all in you know, which is.

546
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: Just not me. It's just not me.

547
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: It sounds very dark. It's very dark. And the weirdest

548
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: part for me is how everyone's okay with it.

549
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they are okay with it. I think

550
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: numbing happens and whatever however you want to take that.

551
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: I think that people sink into being comfortable, like even

552
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: in the unhappiest of just a cookie cutter marriage, you

553
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: fall into. But I'm comfortable here, like I know what

554
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: it is. Right. They got there, a grooming process happened.

555
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: They have no independence, they have nowhere to go.

556
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: They they because their independence is taken from correct, they move,

557
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: they become absorbed into the ecosystem. But I just for me,

558
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I could not function in that world.

559
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: How quickly after you arrived did you say no, I'm good,

560
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm out of here.

561
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: Well things started happening pretty quickly, and then there was this,

562
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: For example, one trip, he went away and I started

563
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: getting phone calls from friends, and you know, he came

564
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: back and was just crying and knocked on my door

565
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: at two in the morning and was I'm so sorry,

566
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: like like please, I'm so sorry, you know, and I

567
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: accepted the apology, of course, and he was like, don't worry,

568
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: like nothing happened. We're good, Like everything's fine, let's just

569
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: be us again. And you know, I opened the door

570
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: and I let him in. Shit, and then find out

571
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 1: after the fact that she was asleep, you know, another

572
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: another person is asleep.

573
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: In his bed where he's in my bed.

574
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And I just can't imagine, Like I

575
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: would not be able to sleep, No, me neither thinking

576
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: that my person is in someone else's bed. No, I

577
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: would not be able to sleep. I don't know how

578
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: they function. I just don't. I don't get it.

579
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: That's why I think a numbing process is happening as well.

580
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: And that's just me saying I think I think, you know, yeah, but.

581
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Then there's all this other yeah. I mean, I believe

582
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: in the power of manifestation and you know, aligning to

583
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: things that are meant for you and all this stuff.

584
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: I have a very deep spiritual practice, so when we

585
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: connected on that level, it was like, oh finally somebody.

586
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he probabs me. He didn't even connect with

587
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: you on that level.

588
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: He knew how to wrap you up, and that's exactly it.

589
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: He will look you in your eyes and say you

590
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: manifested this. Yeah, And then you get on the private jet. Oh,

591
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: how fun, and he'll say you made this happen. And

592
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: then you check into the penthouse and he'll be like,

593
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: aren't you powerful, la llah you did this? Oh shit.

594
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: So you think, oh, I manifested this incredible situation, But

595
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: it's not at all what it seems. And I think

596
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: that there should be some sort of recompense in this

597
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: lifetime for people who lie to the point where it

598
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: like break someone else's reality, you and me both.

599
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: Because then you start questioning your spirituality and what's real,

600
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: and you go through a tremendous amount of I don't

601
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: even want to say healing. But once you're removed from it,

602
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: you're sitting there looking in the mirror and you don't

603
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: even know who you are anymore. Where your whole life

604
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: was built off of the fact that you know who

605
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: you are and you're spiritually in tuned, and when that

606
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: is kind of taken away from you due to someone else,

607
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: you have a moment of feeling like just a shell

608
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: of a human You're just a capsule.

609
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: And it's because of the lying. And so anytime I

610
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: ended up in a situation like that, it always came

611
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: back to my relationship with God. Yeah, and that's I

612
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: think for women especially. Yeah, if you have a spiritual practice,

613
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: it is the one, you know, saving grace in those situations.

614
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I think so too. And if women can just remember

615
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: every day of their lives that they are connected to God.

616
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: God is their business partner, God is their husband, God

617
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: is their best friend, you know, in everything they do,

618
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: then these situations can't break you. They can't actually hurt you,

619
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: they can't actually touch you, because you are perfect, whole

620
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: and complete with your creator.

621
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was your first big gig?

622
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Because it's interesting to me that you were in this environment.

623
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: And I feel like men like that who are like,

624
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: look at this gift I have for you, they kind

625
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: of pray on the people who don't they haven't quite

626
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: reached their goal. But you were very young, when you

627
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: were on thirteen going on thirty.

628
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, I found incredible success very young and I'm

629
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: so grateful for that, and it obviously has propelled me

630
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: in many ways to this day. But it's interesting because

631
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I really got in the industry I was seven, you know,

632
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: and when I told my mom I wanted to do this,

633
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: and my only driving force was wanting to tell stories

634
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: and to connect people.

635
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: Wow, at the age of seven, that was your thought process.

636
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell stories and I would be like

637
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: putting on performances in my living room and I would

638
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: require my family to come, and I would also charge

639
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: them a nickel and like for you, the hustle from

640
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a young age, Capricorn moon would shining. Yeah, So that

641
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: was always my goal. Like, I didn't have this idea

642
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: of fame or all the other aspects that play into it. Yeah,

643
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: And so I learned about those later on, and all

644
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: of that has been really hard for me because at

645
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I still just want to

646
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: tell amazing stories and connect people. Yeah, And then you

647
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: end up in all of these like silly power games,

648
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: and you know the politics of how the whole industry works,

649
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, but I just.

650
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Want to tell stories, right, Like the seven year old

651
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: girls still exists, like deep in you where that's all

652
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: you want. You're like, I don't need the flashing lights.

653
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: I don't need to be famous. I just want to

654
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: tell a fucking story.

655
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have all these and then you

656
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: kind of get this success and this fame and notoriety whatever,

657
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: and you have all these people around you like, yeah, girl,

658
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: you're famous, Like doesn't it feel good to be famous?

659
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, it fucking sucks, especially if you

660
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: don't have the finances to back it up. Being famous

661
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: is not a pleasant experience in almost any way, except

662
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: for the way that you can help people, right, Nothing

663
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: about it is. The plot is great, it's hard to

664
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: keep up. You don't feel a sense of like privacy

665
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: in public. Okay, it's only nice if you also have money.

666
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 3: Right.

667
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: So then, was thirteen going on thirty your first like bait?

668
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Would you consider that your big break?

669
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

670
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: How old were you?

671
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: I was eleven when we shot it?

672
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: That is crazy?

673
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so your mom obviously was with you on set? Yes? Yeah? Okay?

674
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: And were you intimidated or were you just excited?

675
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: I was so intimidated. Yeah, It's like this whole new world.

676
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: None of my family was in the industry. My family

677
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: are blue collar workers, like, yeah, so far removed. So

678
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: it was very exciting.

679
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: And then after that, were you just like, I do

680
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: love this.

681
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: It is what I want to do. I want to

682
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: live on set day in and day out. Yes. Yeah,

683
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: And I loved the work ethic that it required.

684
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: There is something very magical about a set, it is, right, yeah, yeah,

685
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: and every like the actors walking you know, from set

686
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: to their trailer with their their sides in their hand

687
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: and like crossing things out and talking to the director

688
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: like I would like to say it in this soil,

689
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: It's like, it's so, it's such a beautiful collaboration. It is,

690
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: yeah and so And I've never done anything like you.

691
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: But when you got to doing series, was there a

692
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: huge difference between filming a film versus a television show.

693
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: Yes? For me, yes, the difference between film and TV

694
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: is film has an end date, okay, which I really love.

695
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: You know where the stories go, you know the whole story. Yeah,

696
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: you know your character arc. Some TV shows that are

697
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: also pre written as well, but film has an end date.

698
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: It's almost like life really only has so much meaning

699
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: because you know it's gonna end. Yeah, makes it really beautiful,

700
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: like it's finite and a TV show could go on forever, right,

701
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: could keep going. And I have so much respect for

702
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: the people who end up on shows for like ten

703
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: years whatever. But often it cultivates this feeling of like

704
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: people just get tired. They get burnt out, Like it's

705
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you live for two thousand years, at

706
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: some point you'd be like.

707
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm tired, right, I'm just tired.

708
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen it all, I done it all.

709
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: Where else can we go with this? So TV can

710
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: be a bit like it's work, you know, and it's

711
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: there's there's not always a finite end date for some shows, yes,

712
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: but I like the finite experience of doing a film.

713
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: So remind me, how did you die in Revenge?

714
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: She was sent to rehub? Was that like your final

715
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and then she came back? No, she didn't die, but.

716
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: You were sent somewhere. You were sent to rehab.

717
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: She was sent to rehub. Yes, but was your story finished? No?

718
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: She came back for the last episode. Yeah, Charlotte kind

719
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: of wrapped the whole thing up. Charlotte was like a

720
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: secret little mastermind on that show.

721
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she brought county energy and I loved it.

722
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I loved it.

723
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: She was fantastic, just the way that she would maneuver

724
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: and just like that, that like East Coast wealth. I

725
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: just anytime it's a part of a television show, I

726
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: eat that shit up.

727
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: It's so good.

728
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna watch that tonight.

729
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Where are you from Salt Lake City, Utah? Oh that's right? Yeah, yeah,

730
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: So have you spent much time on the East Coast?

731
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean just like going out to New York and

732
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: doing like little gigs. But I mean I've never been

733
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: to the Hampton.

734
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: Neither have I?

735
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: How wild is that?

736
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Yes, let's go take me somewhere cool, ala on, Krista,

737
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: take the Hampton please.

738
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why I've never, like why we never

739
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: traveled there. It was always like, you know, I tend

740
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: to gravitate towards like warm, cozy beaches.

741
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, not tropical.

742
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: Take me somewhere where it's like swimsuits, tanskit not like

743
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: the linens and flowy dresses. But now as I'm getting older,

744
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want the booge I want the bouginess. Yes,

745
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: do you think the comfort? The comfort? I want? Like

746
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: the Hampton's looking home and I want you to take

747
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: me to like a crab bake or whatever the fuck

748
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: those things are I'm talking about, or a clam bake,

749
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: clam bake, clam bake, crab bake.

750
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: We would always use that. There was an episode of

751
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: Revenge where we did a clam bake and for some reason,

752
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: it was such a hard episode to shoot, like things

753
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: were just like dragging on it. Nothing was working, and

754
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: we'd be like, clam bake, and then that became the

755
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: joke for the rest of the series. You'd be like,

756
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: clam bake anytime something wasn't working, clam bake.

757
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: Love it. Love the inside jokes that develop on said,

758
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: it's so fun. I do want to talk to you

759
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: about this musical porv. Yes, so how did you have

760
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: you always been into like the theater?

761
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: I love music, okay, all music. Yes, I'm very into

762
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: sound healing and I think the future of medicine is

763
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: in frequency and vibration. And I don't know if you've

764
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: seen the videos in India where they like heal people's

765
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: broken bones with sound and the whole future of healing

766
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: is going towards frequency. Okay, anyway, that is side obviously,

767
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I just love music. Who doesn't? But I had my

768
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: former fiance was a music producer. Okay, so it was

769
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity to realize my long held dreams of

770
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: being in a band. So we had a little band.

771
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Are you joking?

772
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 2: No, you're in a band?

773
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it doesn't exist to me longer a bit.

774
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 2: But you what did you do in the band?

775
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: Instruments? Vocals? So we wrote the songs and I sang

776
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: them and he produces the music. Wow?

777
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: Are you still in communication with him? Like you stayed friends?

778
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: We have stayed friends. We have stayed friends this whole time.

779
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: He recently got engaged again.

780
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: So okay, boundary, Yeah, it's boundary, but but yeah, so

781
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: much love for him.

782
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: Who is your favorite musician? Would you say? Ooh?

783
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: Immediately Bowie comes to mind. I don't know why that,

784
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: prince like, I just love I love musicians who use

785
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: their music to convey something like deeper you know, yeah,

786
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: I totally get that.

787
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: I have to say right now, I'm really bumping Cardi

788
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: B's new album. Yes, I cannot check enough. She has

789
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: this song with Lizzo and Lizzo's part is I do

790
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: think I'm a nut? Four non blondes.

791
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: What's up? Okay? And it is just it, it's just

792
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: so Ship, and I can't say nothing, Hannah, motherfucker tell me,

793
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: and then you have to sing that part.

794
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 2: I only know the rise sometimes when a line in bit,

795
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: just to get it all out, what was in my head?

796
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: And I I'm feeling a little pecuio. So give in

797
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 2: the morning and step outside and I take a deep breath.

798
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: Then I get really and I screamed from the top

799
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: of my muse what's going on? Oh my god, we're

800
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: so fucking good. We have to karaoke together? Please and Ship,

801
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm so horny.

802
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Now are we falling in love? Yes?

803
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: I love this.

804
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: Wait, what's your go to karaoke song?

805
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: What's up? Is my go to karaoke song? However, I've

806
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: been working with my like his name's Jared. He's big

807
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: and gay and fabulous, and we're going to perform shallow.

808
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: We're working on it. We're working on it. I will

809
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: not give you a preview because we're not quite there.

810
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: Okay, later when the cameras later, when.

811
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: The cameras at out. But I'm totally inviting you because

812
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: I love the moment we just share. I don't know

813
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: what it sounds like, but my cup is full. So

814
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: I want to know when you heard that you were

815
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: going to portray the Jennifer Garner, what did you experience

816
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: when you got the call?

817
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: I screamed and ran around the house. And I don't

818
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: think I've ever been so excited or grateful in my

819
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: life really. Yeah, but it also, you know, everything felt

820
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: so right. You're super spiritually, and you'll understand, like I

821
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: think that everything that happens in our lives is supposed to,

822
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: like anything that is meant for you will be for you,

823
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can do stop it, and if

824
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: it's not for you, there's nothing you can do to

825
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: make it be yours. Yeah, So I don't know, it

826
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: just it felt so right. Yeah, I'm so grateful for

827
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: the projects I've been able to be a part of

828
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: because they feel right for me totally, And even in

829
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: the periods like I've had obviously long periods where I

830
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: haven't worked, and it feels like that's part of the

831
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: story too. I know I will again and I'm not worried.

832
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: I always say, I feel like our stories were written

833
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: in the Star as well before we even arrived, Like

834
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: there was a plan and even when something doesn't make sense,

835
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: and I also follow it up with this maybe something

836
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: that I just tell myself to make myself feel better

837
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: about the circumstances. And I believe that rejection is God's protection.

838
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: I learned from her. Name's Amber. She's like my sister wife.

839
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 2: We share a baby daddy. But she said I don't

840
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: want anything that's not mine, And I was like that,

841
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: just you can want something so badly and if it

842
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: doesn't happen for you, you have to just know it's

843
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: not it's not yours. How can you want something that

844
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: isn't supposed to be yours?

845
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: Right? And you may get it, even you could, you

846
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: could strong arm your way into getting it, but it

847
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: won't be blessed. No.

848
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: And I love that you said that, because when I

849
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: continue to fight for something and i'm I continue to

850
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: be blocked, I take a step back and I say,

851
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm not fighting for this anymore. Yeah, because there is

852
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: a reason, and my higher power is showing me over

853
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: and over again that it's not meant to be. And

854
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: if I continue fighting for it, I will get it.

855
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: And it's going to go to shit, Yeah, it will.

856
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: It will almost punish you yes, like you wanted it

857
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: have it here?

858
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: You go like I did everything I could possibly do

859
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: to show you that this is not right. Yes, and

860
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: you continue to go against me. Yes, we are so

861
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: in sync. Dude. I can't even tell you what was

862
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: your relationship like with I feel like I can't call

863
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: her jen Jennifer Garter on each of like on the set,

864
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: was it like I just I feel just knowing myself

865
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: at eleven, the age that you were when you were there,

866
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: just intimidated by life. I have to imagine you were

867
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: way more confident.

868
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: But what was she like to you? I was, Yeah,

869
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: I was nervous, but I've also just always been very

870
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: like bubbly, so which.

871
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: Is perfect because I feel like every time I see

872
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: Jennifer Garner trying to give me a capital one card,

873
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm getting it.

874
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: She's so bubbly and that's really who she is. And

875
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: and you know, my experience of her was so beautiful.

876
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: She was such a great mentor to me. She was

877
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: so she understood that I was a baby and I

878
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: need I need a guidance, you know, and she really

879
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: we didn't spend a whole lot of time on set

880
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: together because we were playing the same character, so we

881
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: didn't share scenes, right, but the interactions we did have,

882
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: she was so beautifully just helpful and warm and support Yeah.

883
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: And to this day, I don't experience a whole lot

884
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: of that in the industry, even people who are like

885
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: very close friends, like when it comes down to it,

886
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: they don't actually support you, they will turn the other cheek.

887
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: But with her, there was a warmth and a guidance.

888
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: And I just hope to also be that to women.

889
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: And Jennifer Garner really had a way of like just

890
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: being kind and warm and welcoming and helpful no matter

891
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: what the situation was.

892
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: Have you been on set with younger children where you've

893
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: kind of taken on how she treated you when you

894
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: were in that situation.

895
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: Thank you for Yeah, yeah, you tied that together beautifully. Yeah.

896
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: So yes, and that's what I want to how I

897
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: want to show up for women now.

898
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

899
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: In other words, yeah, I think sometimes there's like this

900
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: tension between people for no reason. Yeah, And if we

901
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: all are just a little more mindful and there for

902
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: each other and helpful, like we can overcome those situations

903
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: and those miscommunications. And she really taught me that and

904
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: not even in like a specific thing that she did,

905
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: but just her presence.

906
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: The presence, you know, yes, the vibration. Yes, I'm all

907
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: about the vibration.

908
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: She's not competitive. You know, women, especially in this industry,

909
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: can be very competitive and very petty and spiteful. She's

910
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: she's just warm and kind.

911
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: So wild that you say that, because so often as

912
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm doing reality TV, I'm like, I should have tried

913
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: harder as an actress, because I bet that that industry

914
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: they just like uplift each other and it's kind and

915
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 2: nice and they're all about aircraft. You saying that makes

916
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: me feel like, oh, it's the same type of reality

917
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: that I'm living. That portion just isn't documented.

918
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I shared recently, I started a substack and in

919
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: my first post, I shared the experience I had on

920
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: a set where we were all the cast was sharing

921
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: a small cabin with not secured Wi Fi, and it

922
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: resulted in basically somebody hacking into my iCloud and leaking

923
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: everything in my eye cloud because there was tension on set.

924
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: And that happened when I was in my mid twenties,

925
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: and it started this sort of like snowball effect in

926
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: my life where like suddenly my nudes were on the internet.

927
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: What so all of my boundaries were violated. That floodgate

928
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: was open, you know, and not by choice. I am

929
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: so sorry so these things, Yeah, it definitely happens a wow,

930
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: so it gets dirty.

931
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I'm so sorry that that happened to you.

932
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah.

933
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: When you think about, like, I go back to me

934
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: being in my twenties, and it's like, although I'm not

935
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: a baby, when I'm dealing with someone in their twenties,

936
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: they're young. Yeah, it's a very vulnerable stage of life

937
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: because you're looked at as someone who's supposed to be

938
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: an adult, but your frontal love hasn't even fully formed.

939
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: It's a lot. I can't even imagine that happening to me,

940
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: not by choice.

941
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I'm like getting phone calls from

942
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: my parents like like that was not me intended.

943
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I do you text or talk to Jen Garner?

944
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: Jen, No, we've never had like a friendship in that

945
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: way because we were so young. Yeah, when we met,

946
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: I was child and she was an adult. But she

947
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: has like very kindly sent me messages for my birth

948
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: the thirtieth birthday and things like that. So I love that. Yeah,

949
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: she's really lovely and supportive.

950
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard that they would do a sequel

951
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: to thirteen going on thirty?

952
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: Everyone is requesting it, Well they need to do it. Uh.

953
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, whoever owns that ip, you're just sitting on

954
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: a gold mine there, right, Sony?

955
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: So Mark, is it ruffalo or ruffalo? He doesn't fucking age.

956
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: He looks like the same human you can play your boyfriend.

957
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: But you know what they did do is they made

958
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: a musical. They did the musical that's right. Yeah, it

959
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: just opened in Manchester in the UK, by the way,

960
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: and that also went viral. They posted about the musical

961
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: ten million views. Shut the front, this door has endless

962
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: guests like people just want to see this story.

963
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: You should be.

964
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: In that girl. I agree, Yeah that was my audition.

965
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: By the way, you have to Okay, so open in Manchester.

966
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: That means it's not on Bravo in New York yet? Right?

967
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

968
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: What did I say, brodo Bravo? We know where I am.

969
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: It's not on Broadway.

970
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: Broadway.

971
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, where am I? It's not on Broadway in

972
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: New York yet? So this is me telling Broadway that

973
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: you have me.

974
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: I got too Broadway.

975
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: With all of that beauty that you just put out

976
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: into the universe. And I really hope that all of

977
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: my listeners take that with them today. What is next

978
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: for you?

979
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm launching my own podcast yay.

980
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, amazing.

981
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: What is the podcast called. It's called prey Date Okay.

982
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: I love this and what and what is prey Date about?

983
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: Prey Date is your commitment okay, to yourself and your

984
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: connection with the divine. So do you have a co

985
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: host on this? Yes? Who's the co host? Victoria Daniel?

986
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Did I meet her at the iHeart Party? You did?

987
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Ye? I loved her too. I know exactly what you're

988
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: talking about. I got her contact. When can we find

989
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: your podcast prey Date?

990
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: And where? Prey Date launches on eleven eleven? Oh, one

991
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: of my most favorite dates. Yes, I'm credit here. I

992
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: love it. Yes, and it'll be everywhere you find your podcast. Perfect.

993
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that.

994
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: Thank you you guys, I love you so much. Thank

995
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: you for listening to another episode of Untraditionally La La.

996
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to catch you guys on Monday for the

997
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: bonus and again next week. Bye.