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Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks, California, Green Bay, Wisconsin. No, hey, no, you're

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Speaker 1: you're you're too kind. You're absolutely too kind. This is

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Speaker 1: see if he continues to be the leader. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the entirety of the first round. I know

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Speaker 1: buyers all over that, I mean Oakmont to shoot a

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Speaker 1: dum if you will, in movie dumb Uh, Let's let's

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Speaker 1: get to the NBA Finals Cuz you know, as I

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Speaker 1: told you yesterday, I don't think anybody, myself included, was

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Speaker 1: guys that point out the schedules, whack, I thought it

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Speaker 1: Wait what and the games outside of the last you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of thought, all right, maybe game three is

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Speaker 1: this Game three is a good game. And it brought

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Speaker 1: to mind a cliche that is used on TV, but

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Speaker 1: it actually is an accurate depiction of what happened last night.

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Speaker 1: And I was explaining to a buddy mind Andy, who

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Speaker 1: is he wants to get into the business. I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you have to find a way to not use cliches,

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Speaker 1: only sort of use cliches. It's like, I don't, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean? Well, the cliches in many ways are

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Speaker 1: in fact true, right there there are things that have

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Speaker 1: been stated time and again. Now they've been stayed in

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Speaker 1: time and again because quite often they are in. They

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Speaker 1: are true. But we're taught don't be cliche, don't utter cliches.

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Speaker 1: Uh jay s douw your most overused or most again

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Speaker 1: and things annoy you. Cliche that comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you can't judge a book by its cover.

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Speaker 1: You can't can't judge a book by its cover, can't.

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Speaker 1: What's weird about that is how many times have you

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Speaker 1: book by its cover? Fire you gotta do you have

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Speaker 3: One of my favorites because I think it's flexible. The

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Speaker 3: grass is always greener on the other side. But then

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Speaker 3: when you find out the consequence, guess what, the grass

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Speaker 3: isn't always greener.

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Speaker 4: On the other side. Yeah, yeah, it's flexible.

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Speaker 1: mind when I say cliches?

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Speaker 5: But actually think that that there is a lot of

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Speaker 1: But the point that you got to, you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: use the I bring up the cliche because have you

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Speaker 1: ever heard Kendrick Perkins or others on TV say they

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Speaker 1: know role players they played better at home. And I

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Speaker 1: loud Dort hitting corner threes. But those were at home,

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Speaker 1: right Ben Mathering Ben Mathern has an unbelievable game last night,

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Speaker 1: I was watching that last night and I was just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: It's just an overused expression. So while the Dodgers were

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Speaker 1: You're going too fast. He like turns it over. Obie

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Speaker 1: Topmen was outstanding last night. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: opposed to Oklahoma City's role players. Who you know, Caruso

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Speaker 1: a role player, eighteen points in twenty one minutes, was

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Speaker 1: at home. Again, there's the cliche role players play better

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Speaker 1: who doesn't pee a drop last night? Not a drop.

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Speaker 1: This is not me being critical of him. This is

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Speaker 1: me saying, hey, you know, there's something to these old cliches.

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Speaker 1: Might actually be true. You know, might actually be true.

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Speaker 1: And now you get to the series where you're sitting

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Speaker 1: to win what three of the next four, don't they?

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers. It's a It's weird how the math

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Speaker 1: Say they drop game six, they win Game seven at home.

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Speaker 1: Perfect NBA series for all parties, shake hances, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: I go through the exact same thinking. But I also

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Speaker 3: Oh it was Antonio Daniels thinking that last night was

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Speaker 3: a little bit about what you're talking about with Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: City in this situation of yeah, now they do have

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Speaker 3: felt that last night was important for Oklahoma City because

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Speaker 3: I felt they could have closed out the series with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually I agree with you. I agree with

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Speaker 1: That's why I thought. That's why I thought we were

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Speaker 1: I thought it was more important for Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And it's kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 3: You look at it two to one, or you can

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Speaker 3: look at it Oklahoma City's got to win three out

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Speaker 1: It's weird how you can mentally trick your mind with

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Speaker 1: you know, Look, obviously that puts Oklahoma City in a tough,

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Speaker 8: But Denver Nuggs, We're never going to lose an NBA finals.

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Speaker 8: they do a lot like they take care of the basketball,

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Speaker 8: and when you take care of the basket on the

431
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Speaker 8: modern NBA like you have a great chance to win.

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Speaker 8: And I think, you know, Okloma City's playmaking. To me,

433
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Speaker 8: it's just been a little rocky and they just haven't

434
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Speaker 8: really been themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have not, and it's gonna be interesting to

436
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Speaker 1: see if they can write that ship. Dan Wiki joining

437
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Speaker 1: us LA Times covers the entire NBA. You mentioned that

438
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Speaker 1: this is what it's going to look like. Well, huh, okay,

439
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: but they're you know, everybody's still gonna go after Gianni's

440
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: gonna go after KD may not be the super teams,

441
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Speaker 1: but more super ish. Let's start with the Knicks. I'm

442
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Speaker 1: gonna make the case that asking to talk to coaches

443
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Speaker 1: who are currently under contract is a really smart thing

444
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Speaker 1: to do. Okay, I understand that right now most of

445
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Speaker 1: us in the media are sitting there going they got

446
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Speaker 1: egg on their face. These guys can't even talk to them. Okay,

447
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Speaker 1: but one you don't have to. You can still hire

448
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Speaker 1: a guy. The guy just resigns and you can go

449
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Speaker 1: through the a agent whatever. But this is what you

450
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Speaker 1: should do when you're trying to when you're like, take

451
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Speaker 1: a shot at five names that you don't think you

452
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Speaker 1: can get and see if somebody is unhappy. Right, Like

453
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Speaker 1: I called I'd love to calling Jason Kidd, like, do

454
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Speaker 1: I think he's the greatest coach? I don't know. They

455
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Speaker 1: went to the NBA Finals, and what level of unhappy

456
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Speaker 1: is he? Because of the Luca trade?

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Speaker 8: Sure, and that firstly seemed less like a blind shot

458
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Speaker 8: in the dark than say, Billy Donovan. Sure, like the

459
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Speaker 8: Jason Kidd things seemed a little more measured at least

460
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Speaker 8: than some of the other ones.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, but anyway, like I don't hate it.

462
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Speaker 1: I didn't think they should have fired TIBs, But I

463
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Speaker 1: get asking a couple of the guys that you think

464
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Speaker 1: are the best coach in the NBA what their level

465
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Speaker 1: of interest is and you never know if somebody's not

466
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Speaker 1: happy that said, what do they do now?

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Speaker 8: Well? And I think right like one, I mean, I

468
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Speaker 8: think I think you're right. Like ultimately, the the the

469
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Speaker 8: egg on their face from getting turned down on these

470
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Speaker 8: these conversations, right like, it's it makes for a good joke,

471
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Speaker 8: you know, but it doesn't really mean anything, Like I

472
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 8: can text the league source and say, hey, I got

473
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Speaker 8: a call from New York. I thought it was Leon

474
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Speaker 8: Rose asking my wife out for a date. I can

475
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Speaker 8: make that joke right now, and everybody can kind of

476
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Speaker 8: ha ha ha, you know whatever. But the reality is

477
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Speaker 8: is that like none of this matters right Like, the

478
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Speaker 8: the Knicks are still the Knicks. Their brand is not

479
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Speaker 8: going to be harmed by any of this. It's just

480
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Speaker 8: a good laugh we'll have for right now, and we

481
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Speaker 8: have the attention span of like NAT's will forget about this,

482
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Speaker 8: and you know, as soon as one of these other

483
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Speaker 8: guys gets traded, it'll be and it won't be a

484
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Speaker 8: topic anymore. I think though, the broader issue is and

485
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Speaker 8: you look at the way that the Knicks have operated

486
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Speaker 8: the last two years, where they have sort of like

487
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Speaker 8: put their team on this path, They put their roster

488
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Speaker 8: on a real path. They they they put their chips

489
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Speaker 8: behind Jalen Brunson and they built a roster around him.

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Speaker 8: That makes a ton of sense if you're going to

491
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Speaker 8: have a six foot offensive engine like you need these

492
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Speaker 8: kind of ranging defenders. Now, the Karlington Towns part of

493
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Speaker 8: it all doesn't totally make sense. Along that line, but

494
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Speaker 8: every other decision has been like kind of towards this,

495
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Speaker 8: you know, doing doing things this way. I think what

496
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Speaker 8: what surprised people and what surprised me is when when

497
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Speaker 8: you know they fired TIBs, you know, after after making

498
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Speaker 8: the conference finals. I was with some NBA people actually

499
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Speaker 8: here in southern California, and the logic run away was, oh, well,

500
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Speaker 8: like they have to know who they want like that

501
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 8: that you do that you make that kind of decision

502
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Speaker 8: generally speaking with a you fire this coach because you

503
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Speaker 8: know who you're going to hire, sure, and and this

504
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Speaker 8: certainly seems like they don't know who they're going to

505
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Speaker 8: hire now maybe all maybe all along it was gonna

506
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Speaker 8: be Mike Brown or Taylor Jenkins. And then this is

507
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Speaker 8: sort of the the this is awesome like long game

508
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Speaker 8: to see like maybe somebody else shakes this like like

509
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Speaker 8: we'll figure it out. But but I think like what

510
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Speaker 8: it does is it shows holes in the process and

511
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Speaker 8: in a time when, like we mentioned, parody is all

512
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Speaker 8: of that stuff like like process matters. You know, all

513
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 8: of this stuff is percentage points and decimals that that

514
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Speaker 8: impact your chances of winning. And you know, if you

515
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Speaker 8: do something rash without like a good plan B. Now, now,

516
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Speaker 8: the other thing it tells me is that it just

517
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Speaker 8: shows you how untenable they view Tom Thibodeau right, that

518
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Speaker 8: they would do this without even knowing what was going

519
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Speaker 8: to happen next it does. Yeah, it's like pulling all

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Speaker 8: your money out of a four oh one k without

521
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Speaker 8: looking at like what that means for your taxes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's freaky. It's it's a classic overreaction. It's a

523
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: classic over reaction.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But on the other on the other hand, like he's right,

526
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Speaker 1: Tim's has TIBs has first tips has been and a

527
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Speaker 1: lot of that TIBs doesn't sub narrative came out to

528
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Speaker 1: be true. And when you own the team, you have

529
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Speaker 1: the right to make a change. If you feel like

530
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Speaker 1: it's not right, doesn't mean it's right. Decision. I just

531
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Speaker 1: if the whole thing is to me, because I actually

532
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Speaker 1: like some of the thoughts in the process, I just don't.

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Speaker 1: It's how they got there, which is what you're talking about,

534
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Speaker 1: and where they end up, which is the parts that

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Speaker 1: I think you always.

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Speaker 8: Don't really Doug, you mentioned this. They give a part

537
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Speaker 8: about this that's just strange, and you don't really need

538
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Speaker 8: to do this, right, Like, there are other ways. There

539
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Speaker 8: are other ways to like ask for permission without asking

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Speaker 8: for permission. Two, Like that's the other part of this, right,

541
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Speaker 8: is that it's a This is a small league, particularly

542
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Speaker 8: when it comes to coaching agents, right, Like, you make

543
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 8: a couple of calls there and you can figure out

544
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Speaker 8: who's interested, who's not going to be.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's for show. It's for show. It's it's an

546
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Speaker 1: optics thing, right. The only reason to do it. It's

547
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Speaker 1: either for show or it's to rattle some of the

548
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: other teams, to mess with some of the other teams. Hey,

549
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Kid's guys stepped up said he can't talk,

550
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Speaker 1: So now it makes everybody else step up and say

551
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Speaker 1: their guy can't talk. Dan Wiki joins us LA Times.

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Speaker 1: What do the Lakers look like next season?

553
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Speaker 8: Great question? Skinnier hopefully, I think is like one. It starts,

554
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 8: so they're gonna look like they're in better shape.

555
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Speaker 1: He does do this year, by the way, he does

556
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: do it every year, I.

557
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Speaker 8: Know, and particularly in years when there's European club there's

558
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 8: national competitions, right, Like, I mean, this is not I

559
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 8: mean he's getting in shape for more than the upcoming

560
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 8: NBA season, right Like, he's gonna be playing in euro Basket.

561
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Speaker 8: It's very important, and I think, like, but but there

562
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Speaker 8: are other factors that play here with Luca, you know,

563
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Speaker 8: and this was one of the things. And we'll see

564
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Speaker 8: right like, this isn't the type of thing we're going

565
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Speaker 8: to know through a couple of summer through a couple

566
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Speaker 8: of pictures of the summer or some videos of him squatting,

567
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Speaker 8: you know. I think one of the things in the

568
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Speaker 8: aftermath of the there's no think about this.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 8: One of the things in the aftermath of the Luca

571
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Speaker 8: trade was is that people both around Luca and people

572
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Speaker 8: around the Lakers kind of thought it would be great

573
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Speaker 8: for him to see Lebron James and just to see

574
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Speaker 8: what that looks like, the type of commitment physically that

575
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Speaker 8: that takes, right, just to have a front row seat

576
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Speaker 8: for something like that, to see the way that Lebron

577
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Speaker 8: James works a personal trainer Mike Mancias and that team,

578
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Speaker 8: and as Luca kind of figures out how the best

579
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Speaker 8: move forwards in that way, that that would be valuable insight.

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Speaker 8: Now whether or not that fully shows up three months later,

581
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Speaker 8: if that's more of a three year investment. We'll see.

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Speaker 8: They got to get a center, Doug, you know, and

583
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Speaker 8: and the I don't know where they're going to find one.

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Speaker 8: The list, like the lists aren't great, but they got

585
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Speaker 8: to find a center. The one they had they benched

586
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Speaker 8: in the playoffs, so it's gonna be hard to go

587
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Speaker 8: knock on that door again, I think. And they've got

588
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 8: limited means. They've got basically one, you know, one real

589
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 8: trade asset. They're not going to trade Austin Reeves for

590
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Speaker 8: a middling center.

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Speaker 1: That's just what's the what's their trade asset?

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Speaker 8: I mean, they have a they have a first round

593
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Speaker 8: pick in either twenty thirty one or twenty thirty two,

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Speaker 8: and they have Dalton connect that's what they have to trade.

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Speaker 8: And they have a bunch of expiring contracts which are valuable,

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Speaker 8: like valuable in the sense that they can facilli trate

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Speaker 8: a trade. Now, the question that you're asking, if you're

598
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Speaker 8: ub link, is like, are we going to put these

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Speaker 8: assets in play for say Nick Claxton, You know, is

600
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Speaker 8: that good enough for us? If this is like this

601
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Speaker 8: is the road now, we were walking down with Luca

602
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Speaker 8: Dodg just where we were pairing this person with Nicholas Claxton.

603
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Speaker 8: Are we doing this for? You know? I think you

604
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Speaker 8: know another name you hear a lot is Daniel Gafford.

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Speaker 8: I don't think Dallas is making a trade with the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: No, we made our trade with Lakers. We did well.

607
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Speaker 1: We're I think we're good guys.

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Speaker 8: I think that I think that needs to reset that

609
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 8: that clock needs to probably reset a little bit. But

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Speaker 8: you know, like like you hear names out there like that,

611
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 8: like you wonder you know that. What's interesting about all

612
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Speaker 8: this is the Lakers showed their hand right at the

613
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Speaker 8: trade online with Mark Williams. They showed what they're willing

614
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Speaker 8: to pay for a young center. So you can look

615
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Speaker 8: around the NBA at who the centers are that that

616
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Speaker 8: sort of fit that bill, you know, are they willing

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Speaker 8: to do that for Jalen Duran. Is Jalen Duran the

618
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Speaker 8: fit uh catch and everything.

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Speaker 1: There's there's no way Detroit moves. Jalen Duran is so awesome.

620
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Speaker 1: He's so he's so awesome.

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Speaker 8: He's a little bit it's interesting you say that, and

622
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Speaker 8: I'm just saying, like he's of that age. You know,

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Speaker 8: he's getting ready for his next big contract. He's about

624
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Speaker 8: to get sure a really big contract and like kind

625
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Speaker 8: of on the Mark Limbs thing, he's a guy that

626
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Speaker 8: I think, like when you talk to people around Detroit,

627
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Speaker 8: it is interesting they've been tied to a lot of

628
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Speaker 8: bigs this summer. You hear them a lot with nas Reeds.

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Speaker 8: They have Isaiah Stewart, a player they love defensively, and

630
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Speaker 8: it's like the one the question is is sort of

631
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Speaker 8: like can he be our defensive anchor? He's that kind

632
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Speaker 8: of center. Well that's the kind of like if Detroit's

633
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Speaker 8: asking that question while having him, Yeah, you have to

634
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 8: ask that question. If you're the Lakers, you are for

635
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: getting reader to give them everything else you can get,

636
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Speaker 8: if you're gonna empty the bank account for him. It's

637
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Speaker 8: just you know, it's going to take a level of creativity,

638
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Speaker 8: I think. And the crazy thing is is it might

639
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 8: take patience, which again is maybe the thing you don't have.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the hard part of all of this.

641
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not them, Like like Plink has drafted really well,

642
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Speaker 1: really well, but these they've they've generally opened.

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Speaker 9: Mean good luck at fifty yeah, good luck at fifty four,

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Speaker 9: you know what I mean, Like there is no like

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Speaker 9: that you're you're not going to find an answer there.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey they got they got Bronnie. Last year, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people wanted Brownie.

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Speaker 9: They Yeah, I mean, you know there's uh look at

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Speaker 9: Brownnie was seven point one. You know, you know, I think,

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Speaker 9: uh I had two heads.

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Speaker 1: If I had two heads, i'd be in the circus. Uh.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's a it's a tough it's just a

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Speaker 8: tough center market.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think a stop gap option, certainly, again, seems like

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Speaker 8: the path of least resistance the Clinabella brook Lopez. Is

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Speaker 8: that the different winning and losing an NBA championship. Probably not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true, And I still don't know if

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Speaker 1: you can do it with two guys that don't guard

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Speaker 1: anybody in or three guys that don't guard anybody on

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Speaker 1: the court. That's what they have with their three best

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Speaker 1: offensive players. But Dan, we could talk Lakers and the

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Speaker 1: NBA all all day.

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Speaker 8: Oh we will, Doug, You're in the media, You'll will

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Speaker 8: be there, I know, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna guy, got a book you on my pod.

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Speaker 1: We'll just talk hoop for a for a couple of

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Speaker 1: hours and and just get it all out there in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, I appreciate you joining us. I truly do.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being our guest.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottleep Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you're getting ready

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Speaker 1: for a great weekend. Can be a good sports weekend.

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Speaker 1: US Open, NBA Finals, a lot of Major League Baseball, Doyers, Friars,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Let's get to the game. Game time.

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Speaker 7: This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 4: All right, Doug, the game today is going to be

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Speaker 4: a quick one.

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Speaker 1: It is. I feel a draft.

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Speaker 4: I feel a draft.

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Speaker 3: Two rounds, eight picks and all Jason Stewart as the

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Speaker 3: first pick. I'm second, Doug, your third, Sam will be

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Speaker 3: the swing pick. With back to back picks. Your favorite

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Speaker 3: team USA on the heels of US soccer, maybe not

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Speaker 3: faring so well, but also getting ready to take part

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Speaker 3: in the Gold Cup controversy around that. Your favorite team

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Speaker 3: USA to cheer four. Jason Stewart, You're on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Could I could be cute right now, Doug, But I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to take the chalk. Nineteen ninety two. Dream

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Speaker 2: Team Basketball, a team of Hall of famers destroys every

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Speaker 2: team in the world.

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Speaker 3: All right, men's basketball is off the board. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go US Ryder Cup team. If I had to pick

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Speaker 3: a specific one, I don't think there's anyone better than

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine. But as a whole I'll take the

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Speaker 3: US Ryder Cup team.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Cheer for USA the most, Doug, your third pick. This

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Speaker 3: also helps balance out are hoping for Canada to win

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Speaker 3: a Stanley Cup. So we're all Team USA right now, Doug,

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Speaker 3: who's your favorite team USA?

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Speaker 1: My favorite team USA never played a game. M the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight team US. It's a baseball team, all right.

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Speaker 1: You have to have been a card collector to remember this,

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Speaker 1: because the cards are still really, really valuable. Jim Abbott

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Speaker 1: was I love Jim Abbott, and of course Oklahoma State

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Speaker 1: alum Robin Ventura on the club as well. Nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: eight Olympic Baseball Team USA, the team that never played

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Speaker 1: a game.

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Speaker 4: All right, Sam, you got back to back picks, all right.

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Speaker 5: With the fourth overall pick, I'm gonna go with the

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen Rio Games men's swimming team.

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Speaker 7: In the US.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the USA A lot of stars there, and then

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Speaker 5: with a fifth overall pick, I'm gonna go since it

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Speaker 5: is a throwback Thursday, I'm gonna go to the twenty

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Speaker 5: fifteen US Women's National Team World Cup champions.

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Speaker 4: All right, women's soccer, Alright, I like it. Thug back

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Speaker 4: to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go the nineteen eighty four Olympic Team

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Speaker 1: USA track and Field team. Okay, yeah, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: only thing worse than track is field. But Edwin Moses

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Speaker 1: comes to mind, as well as Carl Lewis, Florence S.

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Speaker 1: Griffith Joiner, et cetera, et cetera. Nineteen eighty four Summer

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Speaker 1: Olympics dominated by Team USA's track and Field.

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Speaker 3: Give me ninety six US women's gymnastics Kerrie stroggin crew.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in miracles? Do you believe in miracles?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports.

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