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Speaker 1: very excited about this episode because with so much political
Speaker 1: issues and so much things happening in our culture, is
Speaker 1: great to have people that's a mind, body and soul
Speaker 1: who can actually speak and you know, speak articulate to
Speaker 1: our po Uh. Three, we got three guests. They all lessons. Uh.
Speaker 1: One is from a phenomenal group that has one of
Speaker 1: the one of the best records in hip hop. Ever
Speaker 1: that doesn't live the damn I'm blowing up. Then then
Speaker 1: we got another brother who's who's here, you know, Brooklyn's
Speaker 1: own you know what I'm saying in the zone, and
Speaker 1: we put them together. We figured these are both politically people,
Speaker 1: people that I want to speak for the coaching other
Speaker 1: than these brothers, these three brothers in front of us.
Speaker 1: There's only like a t I I would like other
Speaker 1: than them. And if you don't know who I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: my dead press and motherfucker Tyler, well we make it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now you mean, like all three of you guys. I
Speaker 1: want to ask this question. Due first, let me ask
Speaker 1: do you even consider yourself conscious rappers? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna start off, and why why not kicking in?
Speaker 1: You know, I stay away from that conscious uh kind
Speaker 1: of title leaning as a matter of fact, no boxes,
Speaker 1: because um, to insinuate that I'm consciously, that you're you're
Speaker 1: not conscious, and I think that that's sucked up. I
Speaker 1: think there's super consciousness and people in places, people in
Speaker 1: places that people don't consider what they were called conscious.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, like funk that in. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean same way. It's like you do what you do,
Speaker 1: you grow, you learn, and people try to put it
Speaker 1: in a box. You know what I mean. Let me
Speaker 1: make some lowist you to be the first thing to
Speaker 1: bring camp buch you to drink caps we agree on
Speaker 1: you talk about talking about sponsor. I started to, but
Speaker 1: I had just take the opportunity. Yeah no, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the box, you know what I mean. We're figuring it out.
Speaker 1: But I mean sometimes we're gonna we're gonna do things
Speaker 1: that's political in nature, right, We're gonna do things that's personal,
Speaker 1: spiritual is really all connected. So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like everything connected. I mean, yeah, I agree with my brothers. Um,
Speaker 1: we've been dealing with this for a long time and artists,
Speaker 1: consciousness is awareness if you're aware of what you do
Speaker 1: when you're conscious. You know, nor He's made records where
Speaker 1: that might not because it's considered conscious wrap. But he's
Speaker 1: aware of what he's saying on those records. Um. And
Speaker 1: I think with consciousness in the in the marketing sense,
Speaker 1: it gets convoluted because they't not wrong with being conscious
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But and then a lot of artists
Speaker 1: that are conscious that are not getting the credit for it,
Speaker 1: that do have those records on the album. But you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop is marketed in a way where you know,
Speaker 1: sex selves find themselves. Bangster is themselves um wrapping about
Speaker 1: money and and and decking itselves, especially the people who
Speaker 1: grew up ain't had nothing um and so they used
Speaker 1: the term consciousness. I think you see a pushback from
Speaker 1: artists like their present myself, not that we don't embrace
Speaker 1: the conscious nature, but the pushback as artists because the
Speaker 1: artist nature is to not be boxed in. At first,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like they were saying, backpack artists
Speaker 1: were like the conscious msees and then backpacking I started
Speaker 1: before the back page Like, but I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like they destwined in both together. Does anybody trying
Speaker 1: back to somewhere where ye For me? You know, for me,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the message, and and and and
Speaker 1: then Carress one for me personally, Carross and rock Him,
Speaker 1: and then the backpack Are, which I was a part
Speaker 1: of the Rockets movement. But there was a lot of
Speaker 1: cats who was in the backpack Are who wasn't conscious,
Speaker 1: you know, high and Mighty. You know, they were making
Speaker 1: records about porn. They wasn't making conscious records. But because
Speaker 1: they were associated with it independent my state, people automatically assume,
Speaker 1: like a slum village, they records be very sexual exactly.
Speaker 1: And Jay Dill to rap about big chains and big
Speaker 1: trucks and all that. But because he's making music that
Speaker 1: feels like a certain type of feels like tropical quest
Speaker 1: or feels like a certain sonically, people automatically assume that
Speaker 1: it's got to be positive all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny when you say that, because when I think
Speaker 1: of like a tropical quest, I think a fight is
Speaker 1: not being a conscious guy, like like I think a tip,
Speaker 1: you know, like because he was always like signing the
Speaker 1: more positive like what I'm saying. All right, So um uh,
Speaker 1: But when you get called a conscious rap because obviously,
Speaker 1: um that's what a lot of people are. You wait, wait,
Speaker 1: you think being a conscious rapper automatically means you have
Speaker 1: to be a positive artist. That's what I was going
Speaker 1: to ask, But I don't think. I don't think necessarily
Speaker 1: because that's to a certain exting should be conscious all
Speaker 1: up when you're trying to put a box on it on.
Speaker 1: So what do you do with a record like America?
Speaker 1: If I check that which is wait wait wait, this
Speaker 1: is America. You said about who tricked Trick? That was society.
Speaker 1: Trick went on for none of that Trick was on
Speaker 1: for doping. You know what I mean? This out asked
Speaker 1: the Shaken TRAINA. It wasn't, it was, So what do
Speaker 1: you do with that record? When that you can learn
Speaker 1: from anybody? But doesn't anything that's real quick though, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry started to stick. But in general, like for example,
Speaker 1: Trick outside of Miami isn't considered like like a litric
Speaker 1: artist for us in Miami is like the jay Z
Speaker 1: of Miami. Right, I gotta disagree with you, No, I
Speaker 1: mean you're not from Miami. I'm talking about but were
Speaker 1: even into New York looked that trick, We said you
Speaker 1: it took it off from you at culturally he means
Speaker 1: something from from lyrically he was lyrical to what he
Speaker 1: was something because it spoke to us in Miami, right,
Speaker 1: and you guys met in Tallahassee. Yeah, we met in Florida. Ok.
Speaker 1: I was down here going to Florida and the university
Speaker 1: and this dude both originally from Florido, from Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: That's what you both from Brooklyn, But I google did
Speaker 1: it sucked me up, like say, Jeff had bop in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Really like like when we decided that we were doing
Speaker 1: migrate from Tallahassee up north and well that's when we Boklyn.
Speaker 1: They used to come to my bookstore before. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: was it being in loud on loud? Like he wasn't
Speaker 1: on the whack loud like you was on you know
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, Like you know, there was
Speaker 1: the beginning. It was a street team. It was loud.
Speaker 1: They had pun tan mall deep, y'all, y'all. It was
Speaker 1: a part of the loud loud We came in when
Speaker 1: that was our vision from Florida, Florida. That's that's exactly
Speaker 1: the exactly and we we we had but we was
Speaker 1: like now it was like the same vibe we was
Speaker 1: on and we just made a choice like we're gonna
Speaker 1: go to New York and we and you know, we
Speaker 1: see what to do, right, But when we got when
Speaker 1: we got to New York, I think we had like
Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars maybe first we met Lord J That's
Speaker 1: how we got connected. But it was that was the
Speaker 1: label that we saw in Florida and we went through
Speaker 1: me and all all. We met Russell Simmons like a
Speaker 1: bunch of cats. Russell was like, y'all n is too violent.
Speaker 1: At that time, he wrote, and we grow so much.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that ship? That's crazy? But yeah, right
Speaker 1: he signed Then he signed up black Poet. He don't
Speaker 1: want to have the poetic Yeah, yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was a beautiful time to be um in that in
Speaker 1: that space. We grew from it a lot. We definitely
Speaker 1: knew what we wanted to do and where we wanted
Speaker 1: to be, but we didn't know how much it would
Speaker 1: change us to be around artists of that caliber and
Speaker 1: trying to make our music u up to that standard.
Speaker 1: We were like, all right, we're gonna be here. We
Speaker 1: got something to say. But then we got involved in
Speaker 1: the process and that really grew us up a lot
Speaker 1: as artists. Really was. It was it a was it
Speaker 1: getting different when when Loud be hard to become corporate
Speaker 1: or you all started to get troubles before that, because
Speaker 1: I remember me, you know, we we would like you
Speaker 1: to keep it a hunt. I'm me being on death jam.
Speaker 1: And then when when we could smoke in the building,
Speaker 1: and then there was a certain time when you they
Speaker 1: kicked the haircut man away, they kicked the dice man away,
Speaker 1: and they kicked the weed guy out the building, and
Speaker 1: then the building just became different and it was corporate now.
Speaker 1: It was people from Vivindi walking through and I remember
Speaker 1: Loud going through that process actually before death. So, um,
Speaker 1: the check start missing, man, it was, it was. It
Speaker 1: was a whole lot. We was learning, like like one day,
Speaker 1: you know, you were waiting and they got a reason
Speaker 1: to check. Ain't ready and all that. So one day
Speaker 1: we during was up there and they all dirty some money,
Speaker 1: so dirty and right right, So Dirk with Gert so
Speaker 1: he was so he was in the in the office
Speaker 1: and um, they didn't have his check. So he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm taking something out of here. He just started carrying
Speaker 1: the speakers out. He because we had one of them
Speaker 1: sound rooms too, like where you listen because he was
Speaker 1: never signed the Yeah. Yeah, so it was just little
Speaker 1: things that we was learning. We got to work with
Speaker 1: pun just being on the same label and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, different things like that. But it changed
Speaker 1: that that that error was dark because like it allowed
Speaker 1: that to happen, like you could collapse. It felt like
Speaker 1: a team, you know what I mean, And nobody wanted
Speaker 1: on the fund ship. It was like everybody wants everybody
Speaker 1: to win, and we kind of was. We could merge
Speaker 1: our ship in different ways, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But then when the checks was listening, it broke down,
Speaker 1: changing the corportation and wrap, put a veil and stop
Speaker 1: the balance because there were some checks and balances that
Speaker 1: had to happen. Like you said, artists was running thin
Speaker 1: labels directly to the president oftus and Steveen in the office.
Speaker 1: Like after that happened, you couldn't even do that. Remember
Speaker 1: the security you couldn't have Yeah, yeah, So really it
Speaker 1: started being bureaucracy instead of like hip hop. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that um because rockers, if to me,
Speaker 1: tell me if I correct me from more t D
Speaker 1: kind of seems like to put together if Rawckets would
Speaker 1: have did the right thing. I think it's TV maybe
Speaker 1: like the Rouckets, but from a street perspective like Rockets
Speaker 1: and Together, I feel like t D might be more
Speaker 1: leaning towards like, you know, smart music. Then when I
Speaker 1: say I don't know one of conscious music, kindred to
Speaker 1: me is leaning towards that side. I learned something when
Speaker 1: I listen to Kidney Now, I know what you mean,
Speaker 1: but his backstory is is official and like Rockets stage Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all that lucous um. You know. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of love for Jared and Brian, but they didn't come
Speaker 1: from the culture. You know, they came from Brown University.
Speaker 1: They were outsiders of the culture. They loved it. They
Speaker 1: loved music. Okay, what's my universe? Browns where they met
Speaker 1: Jared and Bryan from Rockets School school? Yeah yeah and
Speaker 1: kay yes yeah. They they came into it with a
Speaker 1: business plan, but being fans of the music, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And they saw they had a vision.
Speaker 1: Their vision was U. They saw a hole in the marketplace,
Speaker 1: Um Provinyl and and you know the Independent you know Savamsa,
Speaker 1: Deeks and Metalis to the Black Stars, you know, company
Speaker 1: flow stuff like that. Um, that stuff was really bubbling.
Speaker 1: It had his own culture. Really, LP was now we
Speaker 1: run the Jewels. Really he was. He was kind of
Speaker 1: leading the charge on that. And I feel like they
Speaker 1: kind of piggyback on an LPs movement and helped to
Speaker 1: grow bigger. They brought bigger checks in. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think that um, you know, they got caught up like
Speaker 1: with Phararell montch record dropped and and Big Door Pit
Speaker 1: Bulls was on it heavy playing in on the radio.
Speaker 1: The Monstrap Rockets went from independent as fuck to let's
Speaker 1: get these records on the radio do It was kind
Speaker 1: of like that, you know, there wasn't the original business model.
Speaker 1: It wasn't They were signing artists like they signed Last Emperor.
Speaker 1: But then I remember like they try to make him
Speaker 1: go to the gym or something like it. Remember that
Speaker 1: he did go to the gym. No, he got got
Speaker 1: a buffer second. Then they then they signed g Wrap,
Speaker 1: but he had a record jagged edge like the de
Speaker 1: Wrap jagget edge record, which on paper, I guess makes
Speaker 1: sense if you're trying to create a radio hit, but
Speaker 1: that's not an honest way to make music. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying so world no no, so you know, um there
Speaker 1: was another there was. They had signed Coco Coco B's
Speaker 1: but I remember the artist like, we had free rein
Speaker 1: me most company flow. We were delivering records, the records
Speaker 1: we wanted to make. The next after Farrell blew up
Speaker 1: and Simon says, the artist on Rookis didn't have that
Speaker 1: free rein anymore and it he's starting to become a
Speaker 1: Simon sets started working. Little Kim actually jumped on the
Speaker 1: record and the actually bunk it. It was it was
Speaker 1: method Red jumped on it. It was big. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was I want to see Motley Cruperford last year
Speaker 1: and Tommy Lee does his drum solo to sign the
Speaker 1: sets for me, Big Me and the kid grew up
Speaker 1: in the eighties to see Motley Crude performing a record
Speaker 1: that came out on the label that I was on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: this is one of the biggest records of all times.
Speaker 1: They catch a crazy lawsuit for there they did. They
Speaker 1: did Rockish year signed and that was the hip hop.
Speaker 1: So now most steppers body of the nigger that got
Speaker 1: deported and undeported, which I don't think you could get
Speaker 1: deported out of America. You can't get kicked out of America.
Speaker 1: NI get out of America. Not not born in America.
Speaker 1: If you're born in America, you can't get kicked out
Speaker 1: of America. But yes, they would kick everybody else out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're geta he was going underboard to But you
Speaker 1: know what's funny about Most is then what did happened
Speaker 1: during the Trump earraw with Most? Yeah, we'll see what Most.
Speaker 1: I think with the situation where him was more of
Speaker 1: a situation where he was in South Africa. He was
Speaker 1: booked to do a show and he had a problem
Speaker 1: with the promoter had an issue and he for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: he didn't do the show. And I think the promoter
Speaker 1: was trying to cover his ass. So that's if you
Speaker 1: trace that story back to Pretoria. Is a promoter wasn't
Speaker 1: Mostly put out a statement. It was a show promoter
Speaker 1: to said most deaf is banned from the country, right
Speaker 1: from from America, which is not that can't be promoter
Speaker 1: said that most They never said that. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: stayed though he didn't come back to him know he
Speaker 1: was he he did have some passport issues in South Africa.
Speaker 1: But those are issues that he had in South Africa
Speaker 1: preventing it from traveling period. Yeah, and he saw that
Speaker 1: he worked out. We've been doing a lot of shows
Speaker 1: this year has been been good times. We just did
Speaker 1: a stupid though show in DC together with them too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was crazy. That was a crazy night.
Speaker 1: Ye beautiful, beautiful night. Was at one point you weary though.
Speaker 1: When he was over. I went to South Africa, a
Speaker 1: lot got niggas departed. I went. I went to go
Speaker 1: see him in Johannesburg, Cape time. I was so Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to Cape Town with these guys too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. We kicked it all over. That was a
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Speaker 1: Like hip hop gave us the platform, always breathed it um,
Speaker 1: I was able to hear care ass one who wasn't
Speaker 1: considered conscious at all, but tell it exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: We were there was a street paid for us to
Speaker 1: say this is what it is, before there was a podium.
Speaker 1: You gotta be orator, y'all. Love Malcolm, you know, love
Speaker 1: you know, love Kuam and CROOMA Love My My my
Speaker 1: leaders but man like hip hop put it in playing
Speaker 1: proletarian English. That's the term that came from Fred Hampton
Speaker 1: seening you had the Black Panther Party. If anybody know,
Speaker 1: playing proletarian it just means the language of the people.
Speaker 1: And so at the end of the day, when you
Speaker 1: when it really comes, when the conversation really comes down
Speaker 1: to it and all the shenanigans away from it and
Speaker 1: you really talk real talk, it sounds like what we
Speaker 1: were saying. We say, it's not it's not um I
Speaker 1: mean what we the music we make is not. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can call it unapologetically black. We are just who
Speaker 1: we are, authentic people talking about what's really happening. I
Speaker 1: guess the others it comes off as this blackness. But
Speaker 1: if you were in my shoes, you would say what
Speaker 1: I say to you know what I mean. It's just
Speaker 1: a human conversation and that and I think that's where hipopulated.
Speaker 1: It's not that way now, um, But at one point,
Speaker 1: at the point that we knew that we wanted to
Speaker 1: be writing words down, we didn't even have to think
Speaker 1: about what it be on the radio or we were like,
Speaker 1: people just need to hear what the funk we We
Speaker 1: just want to say ship and have people hear what
Speaker 1: that is. It didn't have a agenda, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Where music is and it's just based on values,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like what you value? Like
Speaker 1: you know, you could have some success doing something that
Speaker 1: somebody else tell you is it's okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But do that feel like success to you?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Or do you did you
Speaker 1: come when you had your opportunity? Like what what did
Speaker 1: you do with it? And for me that that was
Speaker 1: more important than anything else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I know what I had to say, I know how
Speaker 1: I feel. I know it's not being said, and I
Speaker 1: know where I'm front, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's about rapping our values. And then I think why
Speaker 1: because I don't think we was the best produces, the
Speaker 1: best rappers or nothing like that. But I feel like
Speaker 1: it's such a lack of real ship, real real ship,
Speaker 1: that it stay it stand out. You know, twenty years later,
Speaker 1: it's still bigg in the hip hop because we act,
Speaker 1: because we act like in the theater of it, we
Speaker 1: act like it's all about that, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean when we like, we don't have kids, we don't
Speaker 1: live real lives, so we wanted to just be take
Speaker 1: the veil off. You know, that's the best music. That's
Speaker 1: Stevie's best music. That's little what that Christmas? I guess
Speaker 1: his dive and and you know, you know what the
Speaker 1: cool ship is Like I'm not comparing you guys to
Speaker 1: like preachers or pastors or whatever, but that was the
Speaker 1: that was the ship about like, uh, well, scared people
Speaker 1: from church. Was the pastor priests holier than that. So
Speaker 1: so when you see a person that's being perfect, you
Speaker 1: don't want to go there. When you see a person
Speaker 1: be regular, when you see a person that can kicks
Speaker 1: some novel and still smoke a blunt with you, that
Speaker 1: it is just always attractive. It's always easy to get
Speaker 1: the information to prove because it's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: no matter how old he is or how different we are,
Speaker 1: and like we can always connect with that. I just
Speaker 1: try to add on just as an m C. You know,
Speaker 1: I got with Stick's saying about you know, he was
Speaker 1: being humble and saying we're not the best rappers and everything,
Speaker 1: But I just got to say, as a student of
Speaker 1: m S no, I M yeah, like and not you know,
Speaker 1: with the production too. I know y'all making beats. I
Speaker 1: know y'all like like, but but hip making making music.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, like, I appreciate their job
Speaker 1: is to be humble, That's fine. My job is to
Speaker 1: bring my brother up. And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like me firstly, what Death Press meant for me as
Speaker 1: an artist because we you know, we started our careers
Speaker 1: at the same time, and they kept me on my
Speaker 1: fucking toys like yeah, make me just mix, yeah, I
Speaker 1: told like. And when you think about this, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of great music that that these brothers are put out,
Speaker 1: from mix tapes to albums. But when you think about
Speaker 1: the impact of Let's Get Free and what what they
Speaker 1: were talking about, like students they were studying, it was
Speaker 1: like a plan. It's like, okay, we're not we we
Speaker 1: we When you listen to those styles and the when
Speaker 1: you say you were studying mob deep in Woutang exactly.
Speaker 1: You can hear that on that right. But it's very
Speaker 1: clear direct fighting plane what you say with with with
Speaker 1: with the chairman said like, um, you know when you're
Speaker 1: saying it like they were saying very these schools don't
Speaker 1: teach your ship. You know what I'm saying, Like saying
Speaker 1: that like be healthy is very direct, like planned out, pointed,
Speaker 1: programmed the messages, like the message is important. Um, And
Speaker 1: everybody has agendas, you know what I'm saying. Like if
Speaker 1: somebody tell you I don't have no agenda, that's a
Speaker 1: liar everybody. But what is your agenda? Is your agenda?
Speaker 1: Compassion is a justice? As a freedom? Is it? Is? It?
Speaker 1: Is it? You know, family, what's your agenda? And the
Speaker 1: agenda was so so clear that guy were I feel
Speaker 1: like a complete asset. I didn't know that you produced
Speaker 1: that record. I'm such and that record something that I
Speaker 1: think Stick is an uncertain hero as a producer in
Speaker 1: general and as an ear. And I'm talking about untrained
Speaker 1: when I met him to say, I came to Tallahassee, Florida,
Speaker 1: trying to go to Florida and m University. It ain't
Speaker 1: burn it hard, but it's burning matched. My suit though
Speaker 1: was good. Um, I want to say, and yours you
Speaker 1: should have you should have burned that. He just started
Speaker 1: back burning. It's a secret. But but look, I gotta
Speaker 1: say I met him and his uh like as coming
Speaker 1: from New York. I never really I thought I would
Speaker 1: meet someone and Tallahassee, Florida who had certain strong hip
Speaker 1: hop fundamentals that would move me in the way that
Speaker 1: I felt why you thought you people in Florida. And
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. I don't want to
Speaker 1: trying to say that. I'm not trying to say it
Speaker 1: like that. No, it's not said I'm killing them seeds
Speaker 1: from Tallahassee them and so that just from the mental taste,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that. I mean now, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I didn't expect it. I'm talking about to
Speaker 1: kill it him like rock him flows like the rock
Speaker 1: king flows Tom Tom. And but when he took him
Speaker 1: to the studio and told me about how he saw
Speaker 1: music and how he heard music, it was like, listen
Speaker 1: to Miles Davis talked to music and I'm not blowing
Speaker 1: your head up, kid, I'm just telling you it was
Speaker 1: cool because as a brother we learned from each other.
Speaker 1: And then we listened to the same record and we
Speaker 1: we man shopping man still shopping still, but he was
Speaker 1: doing things with that EPs plus was turned into the
Speaker 1: s R ten that made me say, RISD is not
Speaker 1: doing this. Nobody in my deep having. Yeah, he heard had,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't doing having. He was doing stick right.
Speaker 1: That's what made hip hop. Was the last record on
Speaker 1: the album that we made from Let's Get Free, because
Speaker 1: there was like, I ain't got nothing for the radio
Speaker 1: and we said, what's that want y'all want to saying
Speaker 1: head high, which was the hook that I said, exactly
Speaker 1: like that playing making a joke, but it was his
Speaker 1: beat made in the closet on the aps and he
Speaker 1: just moved and ship like my own and wasn't and
Speaker 1: and it and to him it was a joke, but
Speaker 1: it came from you and years and years and years
Speaker 1: of training. Yeah, yeah, making that You don't see that
Speaker 1: you make that sound from you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Even from Florida, right, we used to hear the car
Speaker 1: driver about with it with the trump yea. At that time,
Speaker 1: that was like, oh, right, and it was like Florida
Speaker 1: culture more than anybody else, right, So that was to me,
Speaker 1: it was like the last it was the last thing
Speaker 1: we had. We had made Wolves, we had made Police
Speaker 1: State everything. We said what we want to say, right,
Speaker 1: and then everybody's like, you need a single, and like
Speaker 1: he said, it was more like I started just thinking,
Speaker 1: like when I was growing up, what was the most
Speaker 1: um middle fingership, you know what I mean? It sound wise,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's what I thought,
Speaker 1: like the obnoxious bass. You know, it's crazy about saying
Speaker 1: that we made the blast because the label was like,
Speaker 1: y'all don't have a single, and the whole thing was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, I'm gonna just teaching. Niggs had to
Speaker 1: pronounce my name, but that record wasn't on that. We
Speaker 1: we said what we said, what I had to say.
Speaker 1: I texted what he had to say. We turn the
Speaker 1: record in like this is the record, you know, and
Speaker 1: it was like you need another one. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something. Yes, it's true. Wait, I want to move fast.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you another segway through Shawn c who
Speaker 1: was working with artists who are working with Rocketfeller Records
Speaker 1: WETLV that's loud, yeah, loud and ours. They're like, we
Speaker 1: got hip hop, but we want to make a remix.
Speaker 1: So they went and got all these producers and lo
Speaker 1: and behold they brought Kanye and so Kanye West came
Speaker 1: to the studio and we made a remix of hip
Speaker 1: hop which is on Let's Get Free as well. It's
Speaker 1: called Bigger than hip Hop and he wrote the hook
Speaker 1: on it with us and all that. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: grab your tips if you love big pop. Um what
Speaker 1: what bangs that is? If you missing anybody? Yeah, but boom,
Speaker 1: I gotta say that, like like all these record all
Speaker 1: these producers were moved by that by that sound, right Kanye.
Speaker 1: Guess who else came? J c J made a remix
Speaker 1: for hip hop. We need to use it. I wish
Speaker 1: we when we went on to y'all were the new
Speaker 1: niggas on the tour, y'all was the rookies and the crew.
Speaker 1: But we went on that tour, y'all would perform hip hop.
Speaker 1: And then after everybody went on and it don't matter
Speaker 1: if it was common a gang star, Big Daddy Kane
Speaker 1: whoever was the guest. After the routes finished their Big song.
Speaker 1: We all came back, everybody on that bill and did
Speaker 1: hip hop again every night. And that's how Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: got with us and say, yo, can I use that
Speaker 1: for the intro on that exact tour after after that?
Speaker 1: And I appreciate it too, because y'all, y'all showed us,
Speaker 1: you know, you in particular, and Most y'all open y'all
Speaker 1: world to us. You know what I mean. We just
Speaker 1: coming from Florida and we're in your hood and you
Speaker 1: said the state will come to the show. You're like,
Speaker 1: y'all come rock, you know what I mean? Just made
Speaker 1: Look really, I wasn't no fav you know, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that want it loud. Y'all really like loud
Speaker 1: ain't really know they weren't connected right that y'all helped
Speaker 1: us like have that national audience really really okay, got
Speaker 1: more black stop music for the same reason you' got
Speaker 1: more most deaf music. Man. I got fifteen albums, most
Speaker 1: got four or five. But he loved a wrap He wrapped,
Speaker 1: He wrap stick verse everybody abody. He's a wrappersper. Why
Speaker 1: you think I think Most is disheartened with the state
Speaker 1: of affairs the music business, not the music business, but
Speaker 1: entertainment in general. Just my experience with him is that
Speaker 1: it's not that he's not being creative. It's not that
Speaker 1: he's not aspired to be creative. He just don't like
Speaker 1: the music business. You don't like the rigamar row of
Speaker 1: dealing with the bullshit to come with the industry. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a stent to his politics and his lifestyle.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think he's trying to live very spiritual,
Speaker 1: humble life and as far he's a charismatic very but
Speaker 1: there's so much then, but there's so much artists to
Speaker 1: fan space right now, like that we have like I
Speaker 1: mean honestly, like honestly, like, but you give a lot
Speaker 1: of yourself for that, you know, you got you give
Speaker 1: up a lot of yea, you know me, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tow it all the time. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to you. We will. You argue with everybody
Speaker 1: right and chance, and I gotta share with the press.
Speaker 1: I got tired, but I digress. But but I think
Speaker 1: also you give a piece of that. Like one thing
Speaker 1: about that is that, you know, I look at people
Speaker 1: like most who don't. He has no social network, He's
Speaker 1: not on Instagram, Twitter, and fate none of that. Um,
Speaker 1: you give a piece of that for yourself. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm very aware of my lane and my position in
Speaker 1: this business. I have a lot of respect for brothers
Speaker 1: like y'all, and that's what I live for and I
Speaker 1: love that. But most def he's more internationally recognized than
Speaker 1: I am, you know what I'm saying. So he has
Speaker 1: he has just more responsibility, he has more people be
Speaker 1: tugging at him more, you know what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 1: people who have are more famous than me who don't
Speaker 1: necessarily maybe need to be on a social network at
Speaker 1: the same way some some some others to like I
Speaker 1: try to use it as a tool. You see one
Speaker 1: on a lot, but I always try to drive traffic
Speaker 1: to what I'm doing and try to use as too
Speaker 1: because I don't got Adele or Beyonce marketing dollars and
Speaker 1: I want people to know what I'm doing, you know,
Speaker 1: So I use Twitter, I created I've not created, but
Speaker 1: harness this platform for what I do. But but I
Speaker 1: also learned from you know, people like most and who don't,
Speaker 1: who don't who have created this platforms. Whereas you gotta
Speaker 1: come for him most most whole canceled seven shows, But
Speaker 1: does then show up and you'll still show up to
Speaker 1: the cancel. No, you show up to the concil one
Speaker 1: and you come back. But that's the one thing I
Speaker 1: do learn about the younger generation. Is there there there's
Speaker 1: as artists to consume them. Yeah, that part is kind
Speaker 1: of dot that smart is an adult like you know,
Speaker 1: other than SoundCloud, like super great SoundCloud with don't just
Speaker 1: expect the SoundCloud. They actually just make a straight artist
Speaker 1: to consumer. Just get that SoundCloud part out of it.
Speaker 1: I think that the music business is gonna start coming
Speaker 1: back ours. That's why I got Quality Club, which I
Speaker 1: got for Ryan Leslie. He built it from me. Is
Speaker 1: like you you go straight to my website. You buy
Speaker 1: my CDs, my vinyl, get my digital, you get books.
Speaker 1: I used to the bookstore where I used to kicking
Speaker 1: with them. Man, I have that bookstore online. Those books
Speaker 1: are in the crib right now, you know from you Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Black Panther comics and graphic novelism. Okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: gotta check what I'm saying. Look at the books. I
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all know, you know, but this this
Speaker 1: platform is designed. I knew that I looked at all
Speaker 1: these other platforms and all these other places, and after
Speaker 1: you get ten years in this game, people want to
Speaker 1: kick you outeople want to say you old. People want
Speaker 1: to say you washed up. People want to say you
Speaker 1: don't god to people won't say you can't do it again.
Speaker 1: That's not what this platforms for. This platform for people
Speaker 1: ten years and and old and old that has has
Speaker 1: has played the game right, played the game. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the way it's supposed to be and
Speaker 1: should be honored. The thing is, I don't want to
Speaker 1: honor you. I don't want to say dead Press is
Speaker 1: one of the dopest fucking two man groups when you're gone,
Speaker 1: because you can't even hear that ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want to give your flowers right now.
Speaker 1: You can smell them, your thoughts when you can think them,
Speaker 1: when your drinks when you can drink them, and your
Speaker 1: smokes when you smoke. I'm gonna godd and that's real ship.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't take away it doesn't take it away
Speaker 1: from me saying how dope live is? It doesn't take
Speaker 1: away from me. No notice in his hustle like I
Speaker 1: see him in one state he's dj and another state
Speaker 1: he's motherfucking performing, another state he's cooking. I don't notice
Speaker 1: that you're doing everything. I don't know. It's great around
Speaker 1: what you understand I'm saying, and that's dope is that
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Speaker 1: go like it doesn't matter how much I come on
Speaker 1: your block. If your people want to sunk with you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna sunk with you. So why even me even
Speaker 1: do that. I should just came to the motherfucker said
Speaker 1: fun with me. I like to go places where I'm celebrated,
Speaker 1: not tolerting, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: take something less because I know these people will sunk
Speaker 1: with me more because they let I'm celebrated when I'm
Speaker 1: walking a room and look, that's as opposed to getting
Speaker 1: more from somewhere else. And sometimes you were just it's
Speaker 1: just like all right, who I got? That's like sometimes
Speaker 1: that's the definition of selling out. But um so what
Speaker 1: this climate going on? You know you said his name.
Speaker 1: I was gonna try to avoid it for as much
Speaker 1: so much as I can. I don't know what you're talking.
Speaker 1: Mr Westminster West, Mr Westminster West. That's the homie though,
Speaker 1: that's the homie Corne I was on his album Cornel West.
Speaker 1: Because I'm saying that you know that Mr West needs
Speaker 1: that Mr West before we go onto that. Because the
Speaker 1: reason why it's specially for me asking you guys this question,
Speaker 1: as opposed to me even asking t I or even
Speaker 1: asking other other other guests of the song here recently,
Speaker 1: you guys know Kanye right like when he said you
Speaker 1: know that you want to go back to the real Kanye, y'all.
Speaker 1: Actually you know the boy before they're talking about we're not,
Speaker 1: we're not because you know, I'm not a Googler, but
Speaker 1: when I do Google and I both like both with
Speaker 1: y'all Google. Oh yeah, he came up. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I can't avoid this one. I want y'all to describe
Speaker 1: to me the difference between a brother that you'll first met,
Speaker 1: because are you around this guy now or we don't
Speaker 1: really know? Is this that? Um? I think it's the
Speaker 1: same dude. Okay, Okay, I go And that's a little
Speaker 1: way right there to right. That's wrong, that's yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, if you if you, if you cook, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think he's the same dude. You know,
Speaker 1: Kanye West is an icon of our time. He's a genius.
Speaker 1: He's a musical genius. So he's very and he's he fashioned.
Speaker 1: The things that he knows about that I can't funk
Speaker 1: with him on. He's his knowledge is just infinite when
Speaker 1: it comes to certain things. There's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that he's misinformed about. When I first started doing shows
Speaker 1: with Dead Prayers, we do we do a lot of
Speaker 1: fundraisers and working with organizations like Malcolm X, Grassroots Movement
Speaker 1: and Refuse and Resist and and all these organizations. And
Speaker 1: one thing that I took to heart back in the
Speaker 1: day was a lot of those the real activists would
Speaker 1: give us political education, you know, what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: before we got on stage, I feel like their prayers
Speaker 1: have a lot more political education than most I feel
Speaker 1: like I got a lot more political education than most people.
Speaker 1: But even even us, we needed more pointers and steps
Speaker 1: to know what the what the talking points for the
Speaker 1: movement was. We had O G. S. I feel like
Speaker 1: Kanye is the leader of a generation who looks up
Speaker 1: to him, who about retweets and likes and engagement, and
Speaker 1: there's no O G. Knowledge in there. There's no political education,
Speaker 1: is the problem. But I agree with or he goes
Speaker 1: and caters to that audience. See, I can agree with you,
Speaker 1: won me us agree with you? But then he'll go
Speaker 1: And I swear to God as a brother, as a
Speaker 1: black man, as a fellow artist in hip hop. We
Speaker 1: stopped the John monopoly. I'm saying names now. We stopped
Speaker 1: to Steve with saying names who I actually see him
Speaker 1: around and I'm like, I think it's time he's sitting
Speaker 1: down with me. Of course to the plat Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we want my vote TV. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're trying to be with volted. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: We're trying to do you know, go outside of the
Speaker 1: box and I'm trying to Yeah, this is why we
Speaker 1: and it doesn't see and then it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: heard a rumor. This is how much um um uh.
Speaker 1: I think he's trying. He's being a troll. I heard
Speaker 1: a rumor that that that Yate easy album, that Yate album,
Speaker 1: it's original name was hit. But yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I do know, like i've i've I mean,
Speaker 1: if it was, but way way, don't worry if it was.
Speaker 1: If it was, what does that say to you? Okay,
Speaker 1: because I have no idea. That's why because he's a
Speaker 1: he's a disruptor, he's he kind of controversy. He knows
Speaker 1: how to how to stir it. So what does that
Speaker 1: say to you? Because it's to me it's a something too.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Like but I mean, but let's
Speaker 1: if we're gonna talk on it like we I don't
Speaker 1: think if we just talk on the speculative, right, I'm saying, like, like, girl,
Speaker 1: I do think, I do think. But we did see
Speaker 1: him say he love and see that was a bad
Speaker 1: We neatly had to trade on race and draft. That
Speaker 1: was that was That was at least a week the
Speaker 1: draft had to trade him. That's why let's get Scott.
Speaker 1: Let's get Scott. Start to somebody, Let's just get I
Speaker 1: think that I think the county is severely missing formed.
Speaker 1: I think he's severely miss formed. I think he's not reading.
Speaker 1: I think, based on my conversations with him from spanning
Speaker 1: from fifteen years ago to two months ago, that he
Speaker 1: is not He doesn't know politics, he don't know history,
Speaker 1: he don't know And I think the problem is that
Speaker 1: when it comes to his career as an entertainer, he's
Speaker 1: been so brilliant and so successful that everything he's done
Speaker 1: has been correct right. So everything he does is like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this at work, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Everything makes me like ugly easy, the easiest, every mind.
Speaker 1: So everything worked. Then you then you're thinking that this
Speaker 1: is gonna work. You hear the records he did with
Speaker 1: Tiana Tilling and and and nas and all that I
Speaker 1: was working on the record. Me and Kanye had a
Speaker 1: recordly working five songs together. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was in his house a year ago. You like
Speaker 1: those records. I didn't hear all of them. I don't hear,
Speaker 1: but I like the album. But he says to me
Speaker 1: in this non in his house, been in the studio.
Speaker 1: How living in Calabasas while Drake was there it was
Speaker 1: hard on him because he was felt the competitive energy
Speaker 1: and how when Drake moved away his he had this
Speaker 1: creative rush, you know what I'm saying, which to me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, how you let this next man affect
Speaker 1: your energy? I was saying, like, this is something I felt,
Speaker 1: but I didn't speak on at the time. Now I
Speaker 1: see how the years played out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of what he's doing,
Speaker 1: Kanye wants to be number one. He wants to be
Speaker 1: talked about all the time, and if somebody's talking. He
Speaker 1: spent all the last year talking about how dope Drake
Speaker 1: was in every interview, Drake the number A rapper, Drakes rapper.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's triggered by Drake. I feel like
Speaker 1: he's triggered by Obama calling him a jackass. And I
Speaker 1: feel like he just wants to be liked and he's misinformed.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna be honest, be honest, that's
Speaker 1: the most sensible ship. No one said that, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's because people don't know him intimately. People haven't
Speaker 1: spent time with him inside studio hours for fifteen hours
Speaker 1: at a time, been with him on tool buses. But
Speaker 1: I understand Kanye as I think. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to take any liberties here. He says he knows
Speaker 1: me according to Rolling Stone, and I know him. I
Speaker 1: know him. And what's so brilliant about it is sticking.
Speaker 1: Isn't that so similar to what we were just talking about?
Speaker 1: What my position was earlier in the airport? That right there?
Speaker 1: So it wasn't at the airport to put us on No,
Speaker 1: you heard it. It's what I'm trying to say. It's
Speaker 1: like what I'm corroborating here is that me and my
Speaker 1: part had a slight conversation about our brother and and
Speaker 1: you and I would love to hear sticks um take
Speaker 1: on it because it's it's interesting as well. And if
Speaker 1: you go to his Instagram you can see his posting.
Speaker 1: But where were you guys? We'll come right back to that.
Speaker 1: Who are you guys at when you heard that he
Speaker 1: said he loved Donald Trump at Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: see him MSNBC A lot um. I never used to
Speaker 1: like it before. Trump. It's right wing. That's that's racist.
Speaker 1: But now it's left because Trump is in office. Right,
Speaker 1: that's that's like the Ills reality show right right exactly.
Speaker 1: And my wife and my wife don't stop sing. She's
Speaker 1: non political, but she this is the best show on Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best show on TV. So that's why what's
Speaker 1: that ship? The president Ship on Netflix? They canceled? They
Speaker 1: said that the best show on TV exactly. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't even remember, because um, like, I don't remember what.
Speaker 1: I already had this sensitivity that he would like Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where I was when I
Speaker 1: heard it, but I had the sensitivity in my mind
Speaker 1: that that would be something that he would say. You
Speaker 1: know what sucked me up the most about that ship though,
Speaker 1: the ship he said about feeling emasculated and feeling like
Speaker 1: and talk about his daddy. Regardless of where you stand
Speaker 1: on Hillary Clin, you know what I'm saying, a lot
Speaker 1: of people in our community have very righteous criticism for
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. But his criticism and Hilly Clin wasn't a
Speaker 1: political criticism. He didn't talk about her policies, he didn't
Speaker 1: talk about Hey, he didn't talk about supercredator. He said,
Speaker 1: her slogan I'm with her made me feel like less
Speaker 1: than a man. He said, he said, because the less
Speaker 1: testosterone in his house. And he said, I'm married a family.
Speaker 1: He said, I married a family, and there's not enough
Speaker 1: testosterone in my house that to me, women can't make.
Speaker 1: And you got two daughters, bro, you got two daughters.
Speaker 1: That's the part. And you know, Knnie is my brother
Speaker 1: and I love him and I'll never just SI, I'm
Speaker 1: never calling crazy. And if that brother called me I'm coming,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. You know what I'm saying. If he
Speaker 1: called me I'm coming. But that's what that's what sucked
Speaker 1: me up the most, because I've had private conversations with
Speaker 1: him on sex that he sucked me up that were hurtful,
Speaker 1: hurtful private conversation that I'm like, okay, that will be
Speaker 1: remained between you and me, right. But when I seen
Speaker 1: that man get up there and say I love you
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and Donald Trump said, hey, I didn't have
Speaker 1: to be saying and I didn't actually be saying that,
Speaker 1: and then he hugged that man, and they said, no,
Speaker 1: you can't like more like more of a man as
Speaker 1: that strike me up for his daughters. We know, we
Speaker 1: know it's a certain way you give a person of five, Like,
Speaker 1: look at Trump's hand, his hand is out here. It
Speaker 1: didn't even come closer me. It didn't come closer. That's
Speaker 1: cone he came close. Father. I was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's as like as a person that's jail violation.
Speaker 1: It was harder. Look at bro girls really hard to
Speaker 1: Nobody cares to really hone in on him. He's saying
Speaker 1: he's got mental health issues. And that's my point that
Speaker 1: that that might be the situation. That was some of
Speaker 1: my points to my family is that I don't think
Speaker 1: we suggest this moment clearly because I don't think the
Speaker 1: man is clear. I don't don't sound clear exactly. I
Speaker 1: don't think that even if he believed it, he knows
Speaker 1: what he knows. But he says man is and he
Speaker 1: stopped taking he say he's not. One of his goal
Speaker 1: is for us to do this right now. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's his ultimately, that's the point. By album, why are
Speaker 1: you talking about this exactly exactly? Since you're talking about
Speaker 1: that exactly. But I'm just saying because there's nobody that
Speaker 1: there's nobody technically better to talk about this. And he's
Speaker 1: here is the biggest thing in the game right now,
Speaker 1: especially what he's doing. And I've never seen a destruction
Speaker 1: like this. And don't give me when I say destruction.
Speaker 1: It's not like his paper might be affective. I don't
Speaker 1: think this paper is gonna be afect cultural currency because yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because like I don't. Yeah, I agree. And we
Speaker 1: were constantly every single day seeing videos of little black
Speaker 1: girls getting getting you know, hitting the ribs. We're seeing
Speaker 1: black girls getting pulled, we seeing black boys getting killed,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing this and and this day and time,
Speaker 1: we need you know how we used to say, yo,
Speaker 1: you you're not a celebrity. You're not You don't have
Speaker 1: responsibilities to be a role model. We don't have a
Speaker 1: fucking choice anymore. Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we're all raising children, and we're all raising children that
Speaker 1: can that can go to them saying states and the
Speaker 1: same stats that these people go. We have to take responsibility,
Speaker 1: we have to I don't, I know, I know mathematist,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm you know, I was raised five saying
Speaker 1: I was raised like that. But you know, as time
Speaker 1: go and progress, I've started to make club music, and
Speaker 1: I started to cater to that. But I know the difference.
Speaker 1: I can't no longer being that guy. I have to change.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just I can't afford. Although I'm more
Speaker 1: comfortable there, but I have to say what I see
Speaker 1: that that's you know what I'm saying. It's just called growth.
Speaker 1: But I think I think with um, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot of richness to that situation,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because when you say whichness,
Speaker 1: you mean wealth or you mean richness, like, um, like
Speaker 1: it's just deeper. Yeah, like like so so you get
Speaker 1: a reaction from the masses of people, right if you
Speaker 1: do this or do that right, It's it's like you
Speaker 1: could predict the reaction. Like when people say there's no
Speaker 1: bad promotion as long as its promotion. Yeah, people say that.
Speaker 1: I hate that. But what I mean is like it's
Speaker 1: a lot of factors. You know, I'm mixing, so I
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's we're really having a real conversation
Speaker 1: as far as the community around this, because it's mental health,
Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with the other stuff, the politics,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. In you know, in a
Speaker 1: certain way. It's like if somebody is I believe that
Speaker 1: of the planet it got mental health issue. I mean,
Speaker 1: like for real, And you know what I feel like
Speaker 1: we as we're growing and evolving, like the things that
Speaker 1: the choices we make ship like, we like we pull
Speaker 1: our own poison. We don't call that mental health. It's
Speaker 1: the b I'm good, I'm good. I'll have it around O. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know that's one thing, right, So then if Kanye
Speaker 1: is really dealing with mental health issues, the way people
Speaker 1: in the community is treating him, right, if they really
Speaker 1: believe he got a mental health issue, it's terrible. It's
Speaker 1: not you know what I'm saying. So that's one thing.
Speaker 1: The second thing is Kanye is an artist with a platform.
Speaker 1: He chooses songs he want to make, He choose the
Speaker 1: position he want to take, and when you like what
Speaker 1: he's saying, he demand. But when he feels like he
Speaker 1: sees something different, then oh, this is the worst coon ever,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And to me, that's more
Speaker 1: fickle on the community. Right. But then you know is
Speaker 1: you got Donald Trump and what he represents, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And then this this like alignment that's
Speaker 1: not really clear where it's coming from and where it's going.
Speaker 1: So when you mix all that together and people think
Speaker 1: like she, they're gonna automatically assume whatever they want to assume.
Speaker 1: But they don't know Kanye. They don't know Kanye agenda,
Speaker 1: they don't know Kanye mental health. Everybody just talking and
Speaker 1: exploiting that condition for their own benefits, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So you think that's why Chappelle Paul went
Speaker 1: to Africa at that time, and then now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Kanye, you gotta take atlic Chapelle went to Africa,
Speaker 1: Nold Papa Roster Mother. Chappelle's right, you're trying to quite
Speaker 1: the reason why Chappelle left The Chappelle Show and went
Speaker 1: to Africa to why Kanye went to Uganda. Yes, what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, I was. What I was trying
Speaker 1: to say is you know Chappelle called Onto because you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes winning too much, it's like fellas. Now I think
Speaker 1: Kanye is trying to do that. I think he's doing
Speaker 1: his own version of that. He's doing the Kanye version,
Speaker 1: which you go to Uganda and you go talk to
Speaker 1: the to the Ugandan president. I'm saying, well, let me
Speaker 1: ask you what about this though? What like in our community, right,
Speaker 1: when when a person is like I want to look
Speaker 1: at a situation different, like I just want to consider
Speaker 1: a different angle, a different a different picture. Right, So
Speaker 1: you know, how can you do that? How can you
Speaker 1: really break out the sheet cycle? If you look at
Speaker 1: something different? The whole world attacked? Right, I think to
Speaker 1: the than in the first place, you like, think about it,
Speaker 1: like just for the flips up would first? What about
Speaker 1: Jim Brown. Jim Brown is pause and I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that Jim Brown. I love you, But when you see
Speaker 1: the Jim Brown, Jim Brown keeps saying people shouldn't be
Speaker 1: kneeling to the flag, that's not what kaeper Nick nil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got he's got that, but he's got I think
Speaker 1: the thing about Jim Brown is that is that Jim
Speaker 1: Brown is someone who you know, there's Jim Brown is
Speaker 1: a mythology. First of all, do you see what I'm
Speaker 1: saying this stuff on Jim Brown. That's like, Jim Brown
Speaker 1: is in our community, he's a pillar, excuse me, of
Speaker 1: our community. He's he's there's a there's a mythology surrounding him.
Speaker 1: And I think that he's doing certain community work where
Speaker 1: he's a strategic and tactical in a way like I
Speaker 1: personally just not that I would ever get that invitation.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't see myself going to Trump to see
Speaker 1: Trump on any for any reason. But for somebody like
Speaker 1: Jim Brown, I could see you thinking that as strategy.
Speaker 1: I've been in meetings with Kanye West and his friends
Speaker 1: and I've heard people close to him say to him,
Speaker 1: the problem have with you is not whether or not
Speaker 1: I agree with your political stances. What's the strategy here?
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like when you when you went to TMZ,
Speaker 1: that was unplanned situation, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: when you you had the Charlotte Man interview where you
Speaker 1: control that interview, why not let that be Why not
Speaker 1: let that be the story? Why go to t MZ
Speaker 1: on that day? What is the strategy here? So when
Speaker 1: with sticks say then he went back though, when sticks
Speaker 1: say like, like, what as far as thinking different kind
Speaker 1: of when Kinnie come with that free thinkership, right, I'm
Speaker 1: with all that, But the problem is that don't tell
Speaker 1: me I'm not a Democrat, but don't assume I'm a
Speaker 1: democrat and called me a slave with a democratic plantation
Speaker 1: because I don't agree with the Republican concentration, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's where it goes hard. And
Speaker 1: I want to say this to that as well, like
Speaker 1: we know some free think because there's some people who've
Speaker 1: been down this road and doing some amazing work who
Speaker 1: are not right, not left who and and and I
Speaker 1: support those people, and I and Kanye sees himself in
Speaker 1: that kind of circle. I'm with it on right that
Speaker 1: just that being said. So, but going back to what
Speaker 1: Stick said, and even in all of this, what's real
Speaker 1: is as much as we think he's done all this damage.
Speaker 1: People are fickle. People are very short terms. That's that's
Speaker 1: rare for us, very short term memory. And one year
Speaker 1: Kanye will be a hero to something that's right. People.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that egotistically, and I'm talking about Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. I'm talking about like like like
Speaker 1: the same way, the same way we we have real
Speaker 1: talk with people. We can have real talk. Not nobody.
Speaker 1: Nobody's the work too, because it's not like Hannis Owens
Speaker 1: or Larry Elder when these mothers could come out and
Speaker 1: make a jam and then say, oh, I'm down with
Speaker 1: the movement. We won't believe them. We believe. We believe
Speaker 1: Kanye can come back because of the work he's put
Speaker 1: in the exactly what I'm saying, Like you write, we
Speaker 1: grow our heroes out, whether it's common, whether it's Kendrick Lamar, whoever,
Speaker 1: if they say one ro dang, the one thing, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put us in that category. I want to put
Speaker 1: the people that are temporary fast because there's bandwagging people.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about band bag people. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the inner community. This is us, this
Speaker 1: is us right here, this is the new pool right
Speaker 1: this is us by us, and this is I mean
Speaker 1: people outside of our community. But the thing about it
Speaker 1: is um That's why, that's why I like it hurts
Speaker 1: me sometimes right where. You know, we set up this
Speaker 1: whole campaign, you know, Rock Nations tweets me Yo, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's free meet, no wolo, let's free motherfucking me.
Speaker 1: Let's go out there and free motherfucking meet, let me
Speaker 1: hashtag and let me do what I gotta do to
Speaker 1: free me, and free meet comes home. And then y'all
Speaker 1: go first listening the element or generous you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like like no, no, listen, listen. I get resist,
Speaker 1: I get what she represents. But as a hip hop artist,
Speaker 1: I think every artist that came after me kind of
Speaker 1: owes me to sit down, comes sit down with the yaller,
Speaker 1: come chopping up, come chopping up, you know, and I
Speaker 1: want so big that you want. This is This is
Speaker 1: probably the first time ever a person that they quote
Speaker 1: on cold core Legend can humble itself and pick up
Speaker 1: everybody man and sit down. And I sit there and
Speaker 1: I do all these campaigns when these record labels hit me,
Speaker 1: all these management companies hit me. You know, I've represent college.
Speaker 1: Look this college, sons. My son went to college perpect
Speaker 1: party on the other day and they brought they brought
Speaker 1: me a shirt college. Why haven't you been on drink chats?
Speaker 1: My brother? Come at that light. Let me just just
Speaker 1: keep it real, keep it in a hundred. I'm keeping
Speaker 1: it in a hundred right now, one million percent. If
Speaker 1: you want to film, you can film. No, don't film, No, no,
Speaker 1: we film. I don't do college. Call it this messed
Speaker 1: up what you're doing to us. You sit here, you
Speaker 1: represent hip hop, your represent in Miami. If this is
Speaker 1: a problem with I f let's handle it off the camera.
Speaker 1: It is a them with and what you can't because
Speaker 1: I've been wady you goddamn sis birthday, so it's definitely
Speaker 1: gonna be you. I'm just storing. I I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to work this out or camera on. Kimber My Yam.
Speaker 1: You gotta get your shipped together. Listen, man, we gotta
Speaker 1: hold on critis. We gotta start supporting our old Meek Bill.
Speaker 1: You gotta come sit down with us, Meek Mail, come
Speaker 1: on my dugs like you when you brought us came
Speaker 1: to Florida. You have did the right thing. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what y'all did. They have to the right thing.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you you just come to Florida, you
Speaker 1: come sit down. I want God my God as well.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go straight. I really really and and I
Speaker 1: really all this moment just wanted to pick you up.
Speaker 1: And even like d j FM, let me tell you
Speaker 1: crazy Herd productions ever since that bad cat came down
Speaker 1: here and then our first showing cameo on the on
Speaker 1: the Lyricist Lounge tour just exactly and and we went
Speaker 1: to your crib well dropping on your mixtape, and like
Speaker 1: I just gotta say, man to see like story now
Speaker 1: shout out the nesting in the back of brought us
Speaker 1: the kind doing all that. Yeah, exactly, coach, and you man,
Speaker 1: like we saw you. I saw you, I saw I
Speaker 1: saw then and then I saw and then I saw
Speaker 1: you here. I live here. I live here as well
Speaker 1: as well as you live here. But what I'm seeing
Speaker 1: you do, like even the way you're able to ang
Speaker 1: your angle yourself and even put the trust you down
Speaker 1: like only a queen's nigger really can do. Some of
Speaker 1: these dudes talk talk. The way you're talking to some
Speaker 1: of these people is beautiful because you deserved this platform.
Speaker 1: You two together have a beautiful balance and to be
Speaker 1: able to have this and and propagate it the way
Speaker 1: you're doing it of my brothers now, just because I
Speaker 1: never was able to say, you can't notice if we
Speaker 1: ain't gonna beg us up, ain't nobody else who don't.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to get plain about what people
Speaker 1: ain't doing. I want to show what we are doing.
Speaker 1: Like I noticed these radio stations, they'd be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta grind it out like I've been down ten years. Ever,
Speaker 1: use that world to me A kid you gotta mother
Speaker 1: ship no more? What's wanever? Like like people put in
Speaker 1: our work when we shouldn't have to go through that.
Speaker 1: And you know, and there's there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that's gonna watch this. And if I'm just being honest,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting cocky. I'm just saying and this is
Speaker 1: how we got to continue to do it when when
Speaker 1: it's time for something to be put in this atmosphere,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I even I even I even
Speaker 1: I even go even deeper. If you can't go to
Speaker 1: drink Champs, I don't mind go to the breakfast club.
Speaker 1: You can't go to the reference club. I don't mind
Speaker 1: going to your button. You don't go to your bud
Speaker 1: go the rap radar. Go to somebody that we know
Speaker 1: that us approved from the O you with stripes, don't
Speaker 1: go to Zaine Long. Who the fucking ze this guy is?
Speaker 1: When Apple getting crazy, I'm sorry saying you know, I
Speaker 1: like you as a person. I just don't know why
Speaker 1: you could get drinking Nicki Minas and kid you Lamas.
Speaker 1: When I've been to Compton, I've been in the South Side,
Speaker 1: I've been in Toronto, right, Oh yeah, your motherfucker's understand
Speaker 1: just the new foo. I'm sorry, you'll bring it out
Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, I'm bringing it out of me, numb
Speaker 1: up for real. That's that's when I started to notice
Speaker 1: that sometimes our culture, we love to be abused. Artists.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's artists are people we love
Speaker 1: to be abused. I see artists who see a publication
Speaker 1: this though, and then that artists go back and go
Speaker 1: back and that publication. I've seen this multiple times, like
Speaker 1: we watched it with Kanye, but is not the only
Speaker 1: one when that TMZ thing and then you know, but
Speaker 1: why why do you why do you think that is
Speaker 1: like when people just I think we just don't support
Speaker 1: each other. We believe that we believe the dream. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think our idea of success is whiteness.
Speaker 1: So our idea of success is not drink chace for
Speaker 1: tim Z. Our idea of successes you know, not you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I did the interview. It wasn't like my
Speaker 1: drink chances in my drink cha. But you know, even
Speaker 1: with our good brother, yeah, I think his idea of
Speaker 1: success is you know, I got polo shoot on polo.
Speaker 1: Raphael Rand is his hero. Elon Muster is his hero,
Speaker 1: Henry Ford is hero. He want to be like Donald
Speaker 1: Trump his idea of successes. He was, like he said
Speaker 1: in his record, I'm gonna climb to the top of
Speaker 1: the mountain, top of the Empire State Building. I'm a
Speaker 1: kid comming, I'm I'm married, I'm the white bitch, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get all the white man ship. When you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just paraphrased what I'm saying. But that was when
Speaker 1: I was. When I heard Right on tour with Common,
Speaker 1: he had a bar and this we talked about us.
Speaker 1: He brought yeah man now he said it on the
Speaker 1: album and Kanye brought me on to that. But this
Speaker 1: is what he said, quality for the coach. Now that's
Speaker 1: what you said. He had a bar. That was like
Speaker 1: he said, they you know how I know I ain't
Speaker 1: about ship because I got He said, I got a
Speaker 1: white girl, a white watch, a white and the white
Speaker 1: girl to match my outfit or some ship was the bar, right,
Speaker 1: And my audience booed him every night. Right didn't say
Speaker 1: that every night. The quality audience didn't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And you know he used
Speaker 1: to but he said that to me recently. He said
Speaker 1: it to me a couple of months ago. He said,
Speaker 1: I feel like the whole world is quality audience. Know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I said, my audience is right exactly. Basically,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know what the audience made you better. You're
Speaker 1: standing out. Time gonna tell the man, I really feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes people are moved to do things that we
Speaker 1: don't even know. You know what I mean. So we're
Speaker 1: ready to judge ship, but time going with bild you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Well, time has toward us. The
Speaker 1: brother come around all the time. What did they say?
Speaker 1: They say that people love to come up, the fall
Speaker 1: down right and to come back that they say that's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna album I'm no judge, man, I want to say,
Speaker 1: I'm no judging. And in the finals have this conversation,
Speaker 1: even as it relates to Kanye West, which has threaded
Speaker 1: somehow into a part of it. No, it has to
Speaker 1: be I'm no and this is this is out of
Speaker 1: love and and even like we're talking about what level
Speaker 1: of it takes to be successful and how we see
Speaker 1: success on a certain level, like even as us as
Speaker 1: quote unquote people who are thought minded um, you know,
Speaker 1: into the revolution money. Look, we're trying to usurp the throne.
Speaker 1: We see, we're trying to be rich. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get rich. You're trying to Yeah, absolutely billion dollars, right, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: why not? There's only there's only twelve black dollion this
Speaker 1: you see the quality of fourteen and and and But
Speaker 1: a lot of the our community excludes that kind of
Speaker 1: understanding from it or how we But you're not saying
Speaker 1: that Kanye is behavior no, no, make money all right,
Speaker 1: my god, I just want to be we gotta dumb audience.
Speaker 1: Not exactly that either, because you're going down the point
Speaker 1: like I'm really just understanding that, like it's gonna take
Speaker 1: it ordinary circumstances to arrive at the the the conclusion
Speaker 1: that we want to be at, Like I want to
Speaker 1: be free. I want to have liberation. A lot of
Speaker 1: people say I'm already free. Some people say, oh, money
Speaker 1: is freedom. Some people say, oh, well did you vote?
Speaker 1: Some people say this. My point is we have to
Speaker 1: come to some commonality about it. And it ain't easy.
Speaker 1: And I got daughters, five of them, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to the future, how long would it take for us
Speaker 1: to arrive at a place where I can really feel
Speaker 1: like this place is safe. We gotta do something incredible.
Speaker 1: We can't just think regular you know, so like in
Speaker 1: real talk like and so we have to include all
Speaker 1: of this in the conversation. Drink Champs ain't low Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and Shorty dealing crack all in equation. That's just quick.
Speaker 1: As someone as an outsider in the sense that you
Speaker 1: guys all know Kanye, I've only dealt with him a
Speaker 1: couple of times as a DJ and as a fan
Speaker 1: of Kanye, real fans. What I'm saying as a fan,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's that's the precursor to what I'm about
Speaker 1: to say. There gets to a point where there's damage
Speaker 1: that's being created by what he's doing. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's why we have to speak and starting to become
Speaker 1: scary because I think his father was his father was
Speaker 1: when the father, I don't know, No, I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's a do you think that I said what
Speaker 1: I think what I think. I don't think it's the
Speaker 1: followers show. I think it's the actual president himself thinking that, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy validates me. I feel that everybody, especially like
Speaker 1: he's already faust. No, it's not. But I'm don't say
Speaker 1: as an individual, I just feel like at a point,
Speaker 1: as a fan of I'm like, at a point, you
Speaker 1: gotta understand like there's a there's a there's a damage
Speaker 1: you can't come back from that. Here's a damage for
Speaker 1: me and on a on a personal on a real
Speaker 1: personal level. Um, I think the damage just me be
Speaker 1: coming from. And I'm very privileged to have grown up
Speaker 1: with educators. I recognized that as a privilege, there's some
Speaker 1: prison most people don't have. The misinformation and misdirection to
Speaker 1: me is very damaging the fact that you go out
Speaker 1: there you make statements that are not based on fact,
Speaker 1: but that are based on feeling, and then you say
Speaker 1: you say on your Twitter and your Instagram feelings matter
Speaker 1: more than fact and like them. The interview, when he
Speaker 1: said um uh slavery part yeah, now, Van Lathan was
Speaker 1: there to correct him. Van Lathan was very eloquent and
Speaker 1: what's the next TMZ and interview those are the next teams.
Speaker 1: Interview was outside and we was Van later right, But
Speaker 1: when Kanye I was calling, I got the word know
Speaker 1: when you're going, don't do it. When Kanye apologized to
Speaker 1: Van Lam when he apologized to Van Lathen, that to
Speaker 1: me was the real kind. That what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's the moment, yeah, because that's what
Speaker 1: that's the real ship. But like when Kanye bigs up,
Speaker 1: somebody like Knda's owns Canda z Owens comes after me
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and then I get that's the black girl.
Speaker 1: And then then I get called a nigger and a
Speaker 1: monkey from straight at white supremacist white you know, like
Speaker 1: motherfucker is like wow, right, So, but that's why I
Speaker 1: take a person like I see a personal effect of
Speaker 1: like white supremacist, neo nazi. Motherfucker's like proud boy, Maga,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's becoming at me, like you should be more like Kanye.
Speaker 1: It's not his fault. It's not because they're gonna be
Speaker 1: like that. They're gonna find somebody else. It's gonna But
Speaker 1: the reason but the reason why I have to I
Speaker 1: have to. I have to give him some resipis ability
Speaker 1: because he is a grown man. He's making choices. He's
Speaker 1: making choices to align himself with people who are are
Speaker 1: a death set or harm and people of color. You're
Speaker 1: making a choice to align yourself with the people, and
Speaker 1: you're making a choice is not an intentional choice. But
Speaker 1: as we know, when it comes to oppression, oppression it's
Speaker 1: not about intent, it's about results. You can have the
Speaker 1: best intention of the world. The broad to fucking hell
Speaker 1: is paid with the great attention. I think Kanye's attention is,
Speaker 1: I don't want y'all to see me what the stereotypical
Speaker 1: image of a black man is. I'm free, I'm not
Speaker 1: your idea of a black man. But let me put
Speaker 1: on his mag and hat. Let me show you how
Speaker 1: much I'm not your idea black. But he did that
Speaker 1: with the flag then, So he was trying this early
Speaker 1: because andre Andrea Federate, but I would I'd be willing
Speaker 1: to bet, and I'd be willing to bet. And if
Speaker 1: you ask Andre Ddausand today about why he wore a
Speaker 1: Confederate belt, which he did twenty years ago, he would
Speaker 1: change his tone ludicrous. When he was on the awards,
Speaker 1: he would to hold Confederate suit and then he pulled
Speaker 1: it off, and he pulled it off. He had the red,
Speaker 1: black and green shirt under I think it's because their
Speaker 1: idead with Bluttle John and then had the Confederate flag
Speaker 1: burning on the cover April and m j G had
Speaker 1: the flag burning on the cover. I think they can't
Speaker 1: they did that after Andre wore that because I think
Speaker 1: they the new South idea is that we from the South.
Speaker 1: But and you know, you could speak to it more
Speaker 1: than because you're from Florida. What I'm saying like, if
Speaker 1: you speak to it, you don't want to hear. Nothing
Speaker 1: to do with none of them, Like come on, man,
Speaker 1: that deeps out. Give me to watch Dukes has money
Speaker 1: could like I couldn't watch that at the crib and
Speaker 1: I used to go to my first to watch I
Speaker 1: watch I just after what I saying that even we
Speaker 1: talk about the flag for a second, Right, everybody gets
Speaker 1: so um hype about the Confederate flag. Right, but the
Speaker 1: Confederate flag and got shipped on the US. The U. S.
Speaker 1: Flag is more responsible for slavery and all types of ship.
Speaker 1: They stopped the Confederate flag, then the Confederate flag. I mean,
Speaker 1: they all to me, they all the same. I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to say that you hang up the Confederate flag.
Speaker 1: What I'm just saying the U. S. Flag is no better.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, it's no better. Right
Speaker 1: if we talk about symbolism, it's hypocrisy, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm like, he said, some Federate flag would tell you,
Speaker 1: I think you need to be a slave, that needs
Speaker 1: there tell you the US to say everybody free. But
Speaker 1: then in reality it's the oky though. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're gonna say, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: the Confederate flag, like that's the one. It's like all
Speaker 1: these flags, right yeah, right, But but I just gotta say,
Speaker 1: and now, in this conversation with the viewings American public,
Speaker 1: we're already sue it's gonna be like fuck that like
Speaker 1: America First, like American American Meran, and that's the other ship.
Speaker 1: Americans love them. I don't bring it back to Kanye,
Speaker 1: but that's the other ship that disappointed me. When he
Speaker 1: get on that America first ship, that to me is
Speaker 1: is worsted, Like that's not it. Yeah, I'm believing that ain't.
Speaker 1: But there's a comfortable with Kanye says we need to
Speaker 1: manufacture to marry but America First, that nationalist ship. But
Speaker 1: he'd be on that ship now that's new ship. But
Speaker 1: you know the things he's like making his easies in
Speaker 1: Calabasas right now and now he's switching a factory to
Speaker 1: uh that's all. I'm say. It's cost a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and but but my my phone the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Really, like you know, I just think there
Speaker 1: is it limited you it's a bubble that we see
Speaker 1: as America. Like it's privileged, just fun. Anybody who ever
Speaker 1: gets out of here is gonna understand it. Anybody. And
Speaker 1: it's and it's made my live driver to the to
Speaker 1: the airport. When we when we started this tour, we
Speaker 1: and we was talking. We're talking about the hurricane and
Speaker 1: all that, and um we somehow we end up talking
Speaker 1: about Puerto Rico and the ship going on down there,
Speaker 1: and I we went down there not to seeing what
Speaker 1: was going on. I was telling him a little bit
Speaker 1: like they're not getting the aid that they need and
Speaker 1: things like that, and this was a problem, right, And
Speaker 1: it's just no disrespect to him, but just the ignorance
Speaker 1: he was like porter, He's said, Puerto Rico, Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: you know, they're they part of us, but not really
Speaker 1: they just take and and just just the mentality that
Speaker 1: you know, otherwise he was a cool were you know,
Speaker 1: and so so the hold exactly. That's what the lafella
Speaker 1: is like lafella that the projects right there, that's what
Speaker 1: we really were fighting all, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And ship and then if you look at it, they
Speaker 1: goes from low easa. That's what is darker to meet.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time down now. I think
Speaker 1: that my nikos out there. We filmed the video. They
Speaker 1: had a song called Old Hector. We went to La Pearl.
Speaker 1: We filmed the video there. So I'm gonna send that
Speaker 1: to I'll be That's where I'll be at. Look, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. So we could talk about Trump, we could
Speaker 1: talk about Yeah, we could celebrities you know, they get
Speaker 1: you know, followers and like. But the people, right the
Speaker 1: people that's lacking that real growth, that real being woken,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's that's the issue. None
Speaker 1: of none of these celebrities and politicians wouldn't matter if
Speaker 1: the people had sense as a whole, following joy we
Speaker 1: was putting in the work to understand what's going on
Speaker 1: in our lives, will be small basically, That's exactly it.
Speaker 1: It's not just a celebrity world is to activism world too.
Speaker 1: As y'all know, when you're dealing with activists and charities
Speaker 1: and organizations. People get caught up in feeling like a
Speaker 1: hero exactly. But if you like, the Dead Press taught me,
Speaker 1: if you're not talking about food, clothing, show took for
Speaker 1: the people what you're talking about. It was all this
Speaker 1: type bees ship. You know, we get caught up with
Speaker 1: it's very seductive, very sexy to talk about all these celebrities,
Speaker 1: all these you know what I'm saying, But let me
Speaker 1: just let me I'm sorry, but I remember, like it
Speaker 1: was a certain time of the nineties growing up. Um
Speaker 1: it was cool to because it was cool. I came
Speaker 1: up in that. So no like and now it's it's
Speaker 1: this more gang ain't going on. But how do we
Speaker 1: how do we switch that back? How do we make it?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, the real talk is,
Speaker 1: but you gotta let these young dudes talk. Who's called
Speaker 1: real racist for real? For real? They they they're not,
Speaker 1: They're not. That was having a real conversations. We're not
Speaker 1: recording the real conversation, recording the visasti conversations, the ability
Speaker 1: of the conversation and conversation behind the door literally at
Speaker 1: the young stub. And then when they talk about getting
Speaker 1: their money. They talk about real business round it's real talk,
Speaker 1: and that's the ship that you want to hear. But
Speaker 1: I think that's it. That's it right there. It's not that,
Speaker 1: it's what it is is that the language change. Right.
Speaker 1: So we were from the generation of the consciousness of
Speaker 1: the more where you wear it on your sleeve, like
Speaker 1: I'm black and I'm black, and I'm black and I'm black.
Speaker 1: What I see what the what the newer generation is
Speaker 1: it's not so much wearing on your sleeve exact, but
Speaker 1: it's about but who am I as an individual? It's
Speaker 1: not so much relating to this social constrict of race,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's more to relate
Speaker 1: in the community, you know what I'm saying, Which I
Speaker 1: think that's a powerful move about. Like um even like
Speaker 1: right now, like Dapa Dad Gucci finally, like you know,
Speaker 1: high at someone, so we're going out there, we're buying
Speaker 1: Gucci has a high time rate. But one Dap is
Speaker 1: not getting all that money now because he's not he's
Speaker 1: not designing everything. It's it's his brand. But we don't
Speaker 1: most of us don't know that. In fact, most of
Speaker 1: us don't know that most of us are going out
Speaker 1: buying Gucci because we're like they hired that and the
Speaker 1: same thing, same thing. You knew. I was going like
Speaker 1: because the cat was the last one. And then like
Speaker 1: you got even the old lady. I forgot that they
Speaker 1: armed mean to call the old lady at the beautiful
Speaker 1: black lady that came to the award show and she
Speaker 1: wore a knife and it was not Kaepernick's particularly, it
Speaker 1: wasn't his ship, but she didn't she was she she
Speaker 1: was just underwaar. She was like, I'm wearing Nike for
Speaker 1: and it's like cool, we understand that. But if you're
Speaker 1: gonna support and support his ain't the plant. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that Nike is a Trump supporter. He
Speaker 1: got hey donated and he chilled and he still doings
Speaker 1: to the NFL as y on mad prisons keep falling
Speaker 1: their money. Many owned prisons. Night Is Connected has invested
Speaker 1: in mad presidents in American more in California, like and
Speaker 1: so I mean prisoners has a long time. The prison
Speaker 1: industrial complex has been a crazy profitable investment for many people.
Speaker 1: So people like without conscience, A lot of people have
Speaker 1: become rich from linkers and prisons. Yeah, y'all knew that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I went to state prison last week with the
Speaker 1: common who like Captick, so that I feel like we
Speaker 1: basically we gotta get out of the body. That's why
Speaker 1: for us revolutionary. But gangster was what made sense to us,
Speaker 1: because you want to change things, right, So what's this ship?
Speaker 1: Is my son general Gangster? But what's doing the work?
Speaker 1: Boy and the other one sell out. I won't sell
Speaker 1: that it's doing. But but the thing is balanced. This
Speaker 1: this is life. If you be on one extreme, right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be imbalanced. So it was a time and
Speaker 1: hip hop culture where it was all about the art,
Speaker 1: all about the culture, and we pride ourselves on that.
Speaker 1: We mastered our crafts and we made that work in
Speaker 1: the world, right, But we went on top of the business, right.
Speaker 1: So then the flip side then proper started getting hip
Speaker 1: to all venice on the master's we're teaching each other through,
Speaker 1: you know, through the culture, right, And then we started
Speaker 1: focusing on that and to the to the without focusing
Speaker 1: on the culture though, right, So then it was about
Speaker 1: all about the money and and and we're still playing
Speaker 1: like yin yang instead of the woke folks getting the
Speaker 1: money you know what I mean, and or the or
Speaker 1: the rich folks getting some consciousness, right, because you need both.
Speaker 1: You gotta have you gotta have some sense and some values,
Speaker 1: but you gotta have some power and some and some
Speaker 1: bread to make certain things happen. So we we've been
Speaker 1: learning this as a culture. Individuals learned that from nate communities.
Speaker 1: Like jay Z pedigree was get money, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? He learned that from his his his circle,
Speaker 1: right right when he was like I'm gonna tire after
Speaker 1: one album. But how many people did jay Z teach
Speaker 1: through through his actions, right, whether you call him conscious
Speaker 1: or not, right, he made he empowered people with his actions, right,
Speaker 1: And then how many people that are dropped all of
Speaker 1: you know, the weight of the planet Earth and how
Speaker 1: far it is from the sun, with no business, with
Speaker 1: nothing in place, not taking care of their kids, you know, right.
Speaker 1: So it's not about what you say on the mics,
Speaker 1: and it's not about how much you got in the
Speaker 1: bank account, right is what why are you in the
Speaker 1: position you in and what are you doing with it?
Speaker 1: That's the new that's revolutionary. Gangs control your ship? Ok? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: straight up? That brass was on this twenty years ago, bro,
Speaker 1: bust me that lighter and give thanks to you us too,
Speaker 1: and a lot of us really was. Like I said,
Speaker 1: there's conversations if you're in capitalism, like this is the analogy.
Speaker 1: If you you live in capitalism, imagine that's an ocean.
Speaker 1: A polluted ocean is everything filthy you can imagine in
Speaker 1: this water. Right, that's capitalism, right. But you in the
Speaker 1: middle of the motherfucking ocean, right, so, and and getting money, right,
Speaker 1: it's swimming and capitalism. Right. So you can hate the ocean.
Speaker 1: It could be poison, it could be all that. But
Speaker 1: if you're in the middle of ocean, you gotta be
Speaker 1: swimming or you gotta be on the boat up or drowning.
Speaker 1: So you have to figure out how to float and
Speaker 1: how to get towards some land, some some something solid
Speaker 1: in the meantime. So we can't ignore the system that
Speaker 1: we live in, you know what, We can't ignore that
Speaker 1: cap But they still want to watch football, and they
Speaker 1: feel like they feel like they're not violate. I love football,
Speaker 1: you'll you love football. I like football. Did you watch football?
Speaker 1: I watched you did watch it? I watched I didn't
Speaker 1: watch it. You did you watch it? Because of Cappenick.
Speaker 1: Did you watch it now this season? I haven't got
Speaker 1: a chance to. But do you think people have stopped
Speaker 1: watching it because of Cappinick? Um, I can't tell you
Speaker 1: people don't, do you think so? I don't watch too
Speaker 1: much sports, but I can't imagine somebody who watching watching
Speaker 1: some people and I think it's something, but I wanted
Speaker 1: Rihanna just turn down the stupa that I think. But
Speaker 1: I think for performing in the Super Bowl, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know that they pay no reduction and
Speaker 1: they paid for like get trapped and all that your
Speaker 1: restores number one and turn it down to down. I
Speaker 1: think they understand their platforms, which is why they are
Speaker 1: who they are, the sisters always. They understand their platform.
Speaker 1: They understand the power world the platform. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't watch sports, but I think that's a personal choice.
Speaker 1: You know if because like I can't imagine, I don't know,
Speaker 1: y'all can tell me. I can't imagine somebody who's been
Speaker 1: watching football every sea, every every year in their life,
Speaker 1: but who also is woke right and also agrees with
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's position just saying no, I can't watch what you
Speaker 1: guys will turn the whole TV off, right, Yeah, everybody, Okay,
Speaker 1: if that's cool, and I get it, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: but my point is asked, kick, I like that guy,
Speaker 1: you know, and I understand we all we all, we
Speaker 1: all agree with that. So then if that's not gonna work,
Speaker 1: because I'm not saying it's not, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: say that ain't typing people, wasn't sucking NFL or any
Speaker 1: of that ship. So that what works because I think
Speaker 1: he I think what he's on, what he's doing works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then how I think I think it's bigger than
Speaker 1: the fun that we plugged that Into's something that works.
Speaker 1: But it was the thing about it. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it, the thing about it is it was publicly
Speaker 1: known when Chris Style didn't funk with us and we
Speaker 1: made we actually made a difference and said fuck it
Speaker 1: that it was still don't do that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is not Christal. What's the difference between everyone and founded.
Speaker 1: Everyone didn't have access to Christal because it was it
Speaker 1: was expressive. NFL is free, NFL is free. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like Kristal was was advertising, was it
Speaker 1: was a luxury. It was a luxury. Look at it.
Speaker 1: Who wasn't had luxury, didn't like fun crystal anyway, They
Speaker 1: couldn't afford it anyway. But look at it like that
Speaker 1: the bottom you gonna be. Yeah, but now NFL for free,
Speaker 1: Now that's that's his that's his biggest So on the
Speaker 1: other end, but I think it's like a Dolli effect.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they were able to see
Speaker 1: it when I Leave was doing it, yeah, yeah, when
Speaker 1: I leave, When I Leave was out there, you know,
Speaker 1: with the ward with anti warship, when he was when,
Speaker 1: I don't think they saw it at the time he
Speaker 1: was hating the spies, Yeah, and I think they were
Speaker 1: saying he would never work again. You know. I think
Speaker 1: that the impact he's bigger than boxing. You know. I
Speaker 1: think I think Kaepernick's way and shout out to all
Speaker 1: those brothers, all the athletes or athletists who do take
Speaker 1: them sacrifice, because there's so many who have gone down
Speaker 1: that road backing, rapping though. Um, these people who have
Speaker 1: gone against the grain and made the NBA say you know,
Speaker 1: you can't come here no more. And because and I
Speaker 1: I think you just don't know that. Yeah, that people too.
Speaker 1: Why the people that lose are the ones that we
Speaker 1: big up. And then like colon cap right there, it
Speaker 1: was integrity, like we all kid night on that right now.
Speaker 1: But people mad because he got a check from Nike
Speaker 1: right like we was happy. It was like you know
Speaker 1: from the I'm not moving say like people be talking.
Speaker 1: I think that's a bit, but hit me all right.
Speaker 1: He my thing is Captor stood on his ship like
Speaker 1: he's had one hunter, right, more than one hunter. Quack lost,
Speaker 1: you lost his name, You still got a v and
Speaker 1: you lost work. You know what I mean? What about
Speaker 1: the win? See, we want to focus on and I
Speaker 1: think that was a win to he it's a win.
Speaker 1: And before he got that Nike check, with the money
Speaker 1: he was making from the NFL, he was donating millions
Speaker 1: here and there. Drop took a plane to some mania
Speaker 1: doing all that ship. So he's clear smart man. He's
Speaker 1: talking plane in Somalia, got with supplies Somalia a place
Speaker 1: we can't even land. The place that that straight where
Speaker 1: you where where in the USS? Cap cap cap walk,
Speaker 1: the walk that conversation. I mean he thought that he's
Speaker 1: trying to fit and actually humble in spirit knows that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we don't all know
Speaker 1: it at all, but ready to be like, how can
Speaker 1: I do it? How can he got white parents? And
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that he unders he takes he has
Speaker 1: a level of provilege that people don't have, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm flipping my level of provilege to do as much
Speaker 1: as I could possibly flip it. That's the best way
Speaker 1: to help count on racism is to have you know,
Speaker 1: not just us, but have the white people there with
Speaker 1: racism fighting once. That means he got he got white
Speaker 1: parents who are great people. I was saying, his parents
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and he got a lot of
Speaker 1: good people around him. I like to shout out to
Speaker 1: the people who who have been molding him in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, who introduced me to him, who are like
Speaker 1: very protective of the fact that they know that like
Speaker 1: he's powerful, yeah, and being an athlete is, but what
Speaker 1: he comes from has integrity, and they're like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is the bay you know this this man, this is
Speaker 1: the Panthers, you know. And and for the time like,
Speaker 1: we don't know at all, but we know my parents
Speaker 1: with my parents and people's move going out to the
Speaker 1: Bay Area to get that black Panthers. Yeah, that's right
Speaker 1: out to the value system. Man, That's what the o
Speaker 1: G said is based on. That's what the Panthers based on.
Speaker 1: That's what families based and that's what they're missing value.
Speaker 1: And that's why we have people in our community who
Speaker 1: are celebrities because of the engagement. They're missing the connection
Speaker 1: to that, you know what I'm saying, Like, they're missing that.
Speaker 1: Like and you know what, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: really try my best not to be on some get
Speaker 1: off my lawn ship, I'm saying, like I really tried
Speaker 1: not to be on Stai Friday. I'm not. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be to get off the law, dude,
Speaker 1: that's not how you want to be, you're saying. But but,
Speaker 1: but but when it when it comes to policy, when
Speaker 1: it comes to the community, Like I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: rap shit, you know what I'm saying, right right, rap shit?
Speaker 1: Little little Pop probably is as good as niggas think
Speaker 1: he is. How would I know? Do I know? I know,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. My sensibilities, has nothing to do with any
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to when it comes to the ship, we're talking
Speaker 1: about you have to. You have to look at what
Speaker 1: the what the O Jesus did before you, not to
Speaker 1: emulate them, not to copy them, but to also learn
Speaker 1: her name is stakes. I'm saying to also because you're
Speaker 1: standing you're standing on my shoulder. I'm sorry, I gotta
Speaker 1: cut you off. This mad girls to come and see
Speaker 1: dead rap artists. You do that, Okay. I just want
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to my wife who walked
Speaker 1: in the building. We just won't get here to see
Speaker 1: these guys. Guys are bad, all right. So one thing
Speaker 1: you can take away if you had to stop and
Speaker 1: do it over the hip hop, you can take away Wow, man,
Speaker 1: that's too tough, bro to stop and do over whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's yours or someone else's whatever, it's
Speaker 1: want something that hard question. Yeah, that's like niggas don't
Speaker 1: be having no no regrets, you know, like that that
Speaker 1: was sucked up. But I learned from it and I
Speaker 1: grew from it. Like my man d One told me,
Speaker 1: and around one time, if I if I could have
Speaker 1: been the dude who was in the lobby who could
Speaker 1: have told the girls, don't don't go upstairs and see
Speaker 1: pop and turn around you your life would be better
Speaker 1: and you and Bob, you'all can save you a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of hell. Maybe I'm maybe I beat,
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I be that person. Yeah, shout out that
Speaker 1: run yeah, come on our shoulder now, Okay, then get
Speaker 1: here on the mat. Yeah yeah, stick yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, run around. Let me go to Spinish. Let's
Speaker 1: get a letter. Just let's get a letter to day moment.
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring you one blah blah again, don't keep
Speaker 1: it blah blah blah and everything. We're about to. Let
Speaker 1: me see you in a minute. Then come on, man,
Speaker 1: one thing and one thing. Of course you're sold out tonight,
Speaker 1: they coome on, gotta something last. You know, I'm so out.
Speaker 1: We have to sell out everyone. Anybody got to sell
Speaker 1: out a little bit. But my back, no, I think
Speaker 1: I'm with with quality. Like you know, it's I don't
Speaker 1: really do regrets, you know what I mean? So like,
Speaker 1: uh you know, uh, for me, I say this person
Speaker 1: on a personal note, like I came in the hip
Speaker 1: hop and I got influenced by street ship. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I said Maybe I said it wrong, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I said it wrong. Maybe speaking about some industry ship.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a someone who asks you to get on
Speaker 1: the records. That better. That better, like that you passed
Speaker 1: on the record, like we all asked you to do
Speaker 1: a hook, let's go. Yeah. I felt very very very
Speaker 1: happy with choices. I'm you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: look like I'm gonna say, you know, we got a
Speaker 1: chance at one time. Um yo, shout out Linda McMillan.
Speaker 1: Like to work as the loyal Yeah, continuously. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be interesting. Yeah to he introduced us
Speaker 1: to Rest in Peace prints, and we were on the
Speaker 1: same night that we that we were introduced to. You
Speaker 1: better not you better not say it, but look so
Speaker 1: that stories happen every time. Yeah, yeah, you better not
Speaker 1: say but now Yeah, I just want to say that,
Speaker 1: like they do a record with you. Yes, we we
Speaker 1: we spoke about it right there. And there was a
Speaker 1: record called them as the President. Yeah that's crazy, but
Speaker 1: this regular exist. Yeah it doesn't exist, but I regret
Speaker 1: that it doesn't do a pause. It could exist, It
Speaker 1: could it could exist, and like very very clear, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could have followed and we could have made it happen.
Speaker 1: And he and he was very clear about what it
Speaker 1: was he wanted from us, Um, and this is a
Speaker 1: great story. That's why. Yeah, thank you. I'm glad to
Speaker 1: share it because you know, Prince knew who unius and
Speaker 1: it was crazy because a lot will Smith said, you
Speaker 1: know it's no you don't know. I was sold like
Speaker 1: more than more than he knew who we were. He
Speaker 1: had an opinion about it. And just because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say what he says, Yeah, I'm to say and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's no disrespect. I mean me neither. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. Of course you're gonna say that.
Speaker 1: Look at the phone. I'm gonna say this here. He
Speaker 1: was like, look, I want you to First of all,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm a job's wusiness. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to curse on the record because I came up to
Speaker 1: Prince and I came up to a nasty prince like
Speaker 1: so it's like, okay, he wanted to do something my
Speaker 1: different president, but he don't want to curse. And he said,
Speaker 1: but I don't want you to be soft, um, and
Speaker 1: he said like like like I would work and this
Speaker 1: is no respect, no disrespect. This is just real as
Speaker 1: real as it was in our conversation. Damn should I
Speaker 1: share this. Yeah, okay, fuck it, And it's just really
Speaker 1: well because I love his brother to death. But he
Speaker 1: was like, I would like, I know, I like, I
Speaker 1: like comment, but I like y'all because what y'all do.
Speaker 1: So I want y'all to do that part of now
Speaker 1: you said turn that off. It's because the show is tonight.
Speaker 1: And he was like, give me that press, don't give
Speaker 1: me comment, you know what I mean. He was like,
Speaker 1: be you know, talk be wrang, that's what you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And and he was specific about that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just gotta ask,
Speaker 1: did he have on a purple shirt? Yes? Yes, your
Speaker 1: whole purple? Yeah? Yeah, I think he really did have
Speaker 1: on purple. Yeah, straight straight and that wasn't the first time.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I just want to say dig up to
Speaker 1: him and I and I really because I envisioned that
Speaker 1: record and maybe we should just take take that record
Speaker 1: them as the President and clip with it. It might
Speaker 1: be pointing right now, right now, the right time. You
Speaker 1: didn't get to the core with President. I didn't record
Speaker 1: with him though, but if girl DJ Forum q DJ
Speaker 1: for him and like, I did a few shows with it,
Speaker 1: and you can give it one show that maybe we
Speaker 1: didn't speak about before that like a little We love
Speaker 1: print stories, say, I've never met it. I've never met Prince.
Speaker 1: Gave us a crazy Prince story. I saw that printing momp,
Speaker 1: but I never I never met friends or Tupac. I
Speaker 1: met Big, I met Tupac, and I never met Michael.
Speaker 1: I smoked the blunt with Tupac and John Forte and
Speaker 1: see knowledge from Plan that's crazy at the country club.
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy. I was technically conscious at first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that that Tupaca is Now come on brod
Speaker 1: under Soldier story and all that show that hooked me
Speaker 1: when my homies called, like hooped me. Actually, there's a
Speaker 1: point where people really if you really love Tupac, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can track people who can't keep a black man
Speaker 1: down video now they can't keep a black man down.
Speaker 1: Tupac ship that that sold the story fucked me up.
Speaker 1: She smoked the blood. Let's kids keep it dead for
Speaker 1: a second, Piggy. They were together and Sarah Jones, you
Speaker 1: know the poet Sarah. She was Sarah Jones is one
Speaker 1: night or this one night? This is John Takethay party
Speaker 1: Big And it wasn't John take birthday party of Jessica
Speaker 1: Rosa Bloom had a party at country club okay, and
Speaker 1: I think maybe enough reflects with DJ or somebody and
Speaker 1: Tupac was performing and Big showed up or biggest performing
Speaker 1: in Tupac showed up. I don't remember which is it
Speaker 1: when they walk away, it was to walk away the
Speaker 1: bandana ship that error. It might have been play Now,
Speaker 1: it was country. It was country club up in this
Speaker 1: like in the seventies. Okay, okay, okay, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, it was Knowledge was around. I was saying,
Speaker 1: that's why he that's every time I see that Flavoring
Speaker 1: Year video and he coming with the cool like that
Speaker 1: because he was hanging out. That was that. That was
Speaker 1: like the club clip the niggas in the play Ving
Speaker 1: Year video, like Rampage Buster. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Big Puff, know what I'm saying. Like we used to
Speaker 1: see see Knowledge. We was downtown Brooklyn. We just moved
Speaker 1: on the same block. We moved to Brooklyn. We came
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn from Tallahassee and we was right there on
Speaker 1: s what was it right downtown sat Elliott? What was
Speaker 1: it was this? What is the spot with forty because
Speaker 1: it's at right acrost from Brooklyn. Text Yeah Nick, so boom,
Speaker 1: we supplay that block, were having the way to go.
Speaker 1: We was really virtually homeless, virtually, so we hung out
Speaker 1: on the block and we see seeing see knowledge over there.
Speaker 1: We was young and then Nik has he at that
Speaker 1: time he was blattinoum platinum. So we ran up on
Speaker 1: him and were scared the ship out of him and away.
Speaker 1: We're scared of really Philly, but he wasn't. Were scared
Speaker 1: of coming hungry even hung young season ship. But we
Speaker 1: don't see knowledge before in I just wanted the boat.
Speaker 1: Ya favorite era in hip hop? Favorite hip hop? Don't
Speaker 1: it don't matter viewing it or not. B DPA, But
Speaker 1: that is that golden everything is that BDP eight. That's
Speaker 1: what I was about to say. Eight is the year.
Speaker 1: Don't at me. Yeah, don't debate me. Nineteen mother, that's
Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, that's rip, that's paid it fuld as
Speaker 1: light as rock us DJ. I'm a rapper. That's right.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's takes a nation of millions and everything
Speaker 1: you're saying business, that's the creatives. Slick Rick World's greatest
Speaker 1: st critical beat down. So so so my point is,
Speaker 1: like all Juice World fans probably don't know none of
Speaker 1: those records. Yeah they don't, so shoot it up to
Speaker 1: y'all here to go. No, we just got a whole
Speaker 1: discography for you to go study, right, But because I
Speaker 1: know that I know the reference points I talked to
Speaker 1: the I'm in the studio with the young when I
Speaker 1: say what your guys may be like, what do you
Speaker 1: just say? You said, I'm like, no, that's my camp like,
Speaker 1: but then they have no reference points. So my point
Speaker 1: is like, that's important to know that the Juice World,
Speaker 1: the guy that got the guy who was sticking on
Speaker 1: the Yeah, that guy, but he's I didn't know why
Speaker 1: you said that. He has an interviewer alway, he doesn't
Speaker 1: know that. I think that's the hot Yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm not being I'm not being specific to him. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: I thought there was an interview that I didn't know about,
Speaker 1: watched and he got into his whole Yeah, no facts,
Speaker 1: just I'm just kind of putting the generalization now that
Speaker 1: that this audience is the one who really I think
Speaker 1: if with what's going on right now, absorbed that ship
Speaker 1: help us. That's that's like, that's my dream. I would
Speaker 1: love to see that happen. So you eighty eight as well.
Speaker 1: Of course even mom right with nine nine don't have
Speaker 1: to run. That's ninety three, So it actually stressed. It
Speaker 1: gets stress ninety three because at ninety and nine and
Speaker 1: nine one N one, that's when you have like drop
Speaker 1: core quest site s on platinum. Yeah, that's like ninety yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: was ninety two. That's three. That's N three, so like
Speaker 1: eight eight to ninety three and yeah, and you're forget
Speaker 1: about the West coast. Yeah, like early West coast, like
Speaker 1: we're talking about what we're talking about ninety three, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's ninety three is one of we're talking about boosting them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: Hold on, now you got to define that is because
Speaker 1: now our error is stretching drink chant, we give you tie,
Speaker 1: let me go. Let I got two of that, or
Speaker 1: I got the worryport, which is ninety seven and then uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. The reason why I gotta
Speaker 1: say that that is because I like that it was
Speaker 1: fun back there, Like sometimes I don't know if these
Speaker 1: kids are having funnel, they're just high sometimes having fun too,
Speaker 1: they haven from being high. It's a different kind of
Speaker 1: thing that happen. Yeah, it's different. Ye, that pie of ship,
Speaker 1: that the pillot, that's the heterocratics. That's a little different.
Speaker 1: Even even when crap came, man, you know it was early.
Speaker 1: They were even rolling the whizzlers. They are saying, Lean
Speaker 1: is not the ship, right, Yeah, at this point, but
Speaker 1: let me tell you his name. Let telling his name.
Speaker 1: Coaching cs coach them is his name? You said, where's
Speaker 1: the name coaching at coaching them? Okay, big him up fit,
Speaker 1: hot music, healthy is the new gangster. That's what we are.
Speaker 1: We're got to talk about RBG PIP club. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get on to live artists, right artists. I
Speaker 1: don't own him and he's pretty good. So it's time
Speaker 1: for me to take a pp breaking man like that guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got but I don't have a little minute. So
Speaker 1: you gotta take pictures. We gotta Okay, you gotta do
Speaker 1: what you do when you go to media, black media,
Speaker 1: that's all. You don't forget about the Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not the second. I think it's man to dreak chats peaches, peach,
Speaker 1: Why are you don't just sett We need to exactly
Speaker 1: like you need to open the pale rings a pallet
Speaker 1: then almost bring but you gotta red black and green
Speaker 1: with you. I was trying you could have did that,
Speaker 1: but there's no way you're gonna tak black very high
Speaker 1: like this shag You got something with that right there.
Speaker 1: It is because people like Knya, Yeah, I'm the most
Speaker 1: yeah active, Yeah yeah, so drink chests back from the
Speaker 1: run break. I want to pick up that. Let people
Speaker 1: know your owner vot TV. But we always, you know,
Speaker 1: drinks to rocket. We always, you know, support that ball
Speaker 1: as well. You know that Shaggy. Here's any round that
Speaker 1: a Shaggy. He has his own cocoas coca coconut butter.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I couldn't even stick in my mind.
Speaker 1: And and Kanya and look it's awesome little Wayne ship.
Speaker 1: I want to take a little Wayne to rump. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's good. So we can take a shot of y'all.
Speaker 1: I think it's about right we take a shot of that,
Speaker 1: because you know what, I can't be saying, I can't
Speaker 1: give you that that brand, me saying artist support artists,
Speaker 1: and then me not open that do that because I'm
Speaker 1: really not a Kanyak dude, even though I do not,
Speaker 1: but I like that you y'all like that I'm not
Speaker 1: a Kanyak guy. I stopped. So you've been drinking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have, because you don't have whiskey. But it's cool.
Speaker 1: I can handle saying I asked you don't drink it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I wanted to do a study because,
Speaker 1: like I want to see, like, why are people genetically
Speaker 1: like because it's like what you drink. It might be
Speaker 1: racist because I drink because it's cheap whiskey. I think
Speaker 1: we genetically. I think I'm not think I think every
Speaker 1: racist like that. I think I think that's the reason why,
Speaker 1: like certain like I'm being honest, like because i'm giving
Speaker 1: out wrong. Yeah yeah, but if you've been put on
Speaker 1: the ship, you drink it. And that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Because I came. I did it all. You know what, man?
Speaker 1: I started with ian J not mean going to high school,
Speaker 1: started with almost right oh you right up. I started
Speaker 1: exactly like Strand. And so my point is, like that's
Speaker 1: the worst part of right and through stages when hand
Speaker 1: came out, when mob D would have the Hennessee jerseys,
Speaker 1: I was I was rocking hand when I would started
Speaker 1: staying and I went to Mexico and got thinks and
Speaker 1: I got tequila in my system, and that for many
Speaker 1: years before all of the tequila. But now I'm arrived
Speaker 1: that whiskey and it just is with it. You can't judge.
Speaker 1: You can't judge me, you can't judge I honestly feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like what I noticed is I feel
Speaker 1: like at the end of the drinking is a game
Speaker 1: with levels. You go get your whiskey at some point,
Speaker 1: right If you don't, you ain't really drinking. Really you
Speaker 1: want whisky. Put us, put us, give us some whiskey,
Speaker 1: put us on. Like I drink jamison. I'm yeah. Some
Speaker 1: people drink drink the Black Johnny walk Up, black Bread
Speaker 1: and the green and it's cool. But I know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. Like I'm gonna be honest like moved. I
Speaker 1: have a no. I don't drink heavily whiskey, but I can.
Speaker 1: I was introduced to whiskey in Ireland. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I know about Ireland is because its flaw no, no,
Speaker 1: nothing like that like that. It's it's black, it's black people,
Speaker 1: it's black people in Ireland. Really it really is. But
Speaker 1: really more than that, the Irish people who got a
Speaker 1: connection to the Black Revolution. And I'm gonna go right
Speaker 1: there because that's the reason why I respected it the most.
Speaker 1: When when we went to tour in Europe, it was
Speaker 1: the Irish and the Scottish people who came to us
Speaker 1: and was like, Yo, what is your opinion? What do
Speaker 1: you think about Rupert Murder? They hate and all that
Speaker 1: movement to all that movement, all that movement, all those
Speaker 1: people are also um, you know, associated or a friendly
Speaker 1: with anti imperialist movements around the world. But when I
Speaker 1: say anti imperialists, I mean like anti like capitalist colonialists,
Speaker 1: and I know these deep words for us, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: I just want to say that that's the reason why
Speaker 1: we can relate, because we know we have common likeness.
Speaker 1: So like, um, like the Irish people was like I
Speaker 1: support Malcolm X. I'm like, what does whiskey taste like?
Speaker 1: And that's how that happened. Well, listen, we are celebrating tonight,
Speaker 1: your brothers, your brothers being here. You know, we had
Speaker 1: a great conversation when we're gonna That's what I like,
Speaker 1: I keep continuing to say, we have to keep supporting us. Man,
Speaker 1: tonight that press your name age, my brother, like you
Speaker 1: don't want to pronounce it wrong. You know what this
Speaker 1: lesson Nico, Nico, who was amazing, who had the fantastic
Speaker 1: project coming out with I'm gonna be a part of
Speaker 1: don't tell us that the next tell tell us, tell
Speaker 1: us what's going on here? Oh excuse me, I mean
Speaker 1: I mean made him at Prince House. Yes, in the
Speaker 1: same hair. Yes, I'm not telling that. It's nice right, Yes,
Speaker 1: Charles a little Wayne Man, We support artists. If you
Speaker 1: will wrap up, you send your product big up to
Speaker 1: Earl Man e forty as well. Man, I can't believe
Speaker 1: we have don't eat forty win. I'm gonna be sure.
Speaker 1: I was about to say to you on the West
Speaker 1: coast same time, the forty during the eighty three ninety
Speaker 1: three what was it that was our span? Yet straight
Speaker 1: out the rappers grant while we added there shout out
Speaker 1: the outlaws when you come out it was coming right here,
Speaker 1: but shout out, shout out, shout out outlaws. They got
Speaker 1: a new water, alkaline water coming out called town so
Speaker 1: outlaw and morels I say that again, outlawed mores, Tupac
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I ain't know when you
Speaker 1: hear that, man, he got you know what, it was good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So Nico is just from Brazil and I
Speaker 1: met him in Orlando and he's one of one of
Speaker 1: my favorite and you know, we have to go on tour. Nico.
Speaker 1: I dropped the album called Brew just a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago as new albums called Unico and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I let Nico speak for himself. Man, that's beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful pieces. Honored to be here years against man Um.
Speaker 1: I was born in Brazil, and uh, I grew up
Speaker 1: in Orlando and I was doing music out there and
Speaker 1: his son was going to school out there. And then
Speaker 1: that's and he just made it happen. You know. He
Speaker 1: walked into a nightclub, got handed my mixtape and the
Speaker 1: next day we did a record and shout to Trisca Trica,
Speaker 1: my brother to Trisca locked up something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, fast forward
Speaker 1: a few days, I'm freestyling to him in this year
Speaker 1: and it's that it was really the freestyle, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I come from a tradition of freestyle back
Speaker 1: in the day, and you know, shout out to Supernata.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people like that and Craig and I
Speaker 1: heard Negle freestyle on a level that I hadn't heard
Speaker 1: freestyle along. You know, we gotta hear the last anybody
Speaker 1: never heard you heard anyone freestyle. Drink Chance is the
Speaker 1: first time that was beautiful. That not know what I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. No, I wouldn't what I'm saying. You gotta
Speaker 1: like you're just coming to you know, this is a
Speaker 1: dirty pop. I appreciate it, you know I was. I
Speaker 1: was gona to say that publicly because the Derpy said
Speaker 1: he needed so this is where we come and to
Speaker 1: be best beautiful. This is the first time a new
Speaker 1: him see that's beautiful. So you got you gotta free style.
Speaker 1: He compared you to see that, no question, Yeah, pure
Speaker 1: beautiful people. You're gonna you're gonna say a word and
Speaker 1: he gonna he gonna, he's gonna start the rhyme more
Speaker 1: with that and then in between the rhyme, did you
Speaker 1: say a word? And then you say a word? Act
Speaker 1: say a word and if you get this is the
Speaker 1: one to three four five. Wrapping up the Ferry time
Speaker 1: on Drink Tip Fibaro a scissor. Can we see the language?
Speaker 1: Can we can? We do it in four days? Ain't
Speaker 1: let's go, let's do it. We do what we need
Speaker 1: to do. Man, I'm honored to be all right. Ready automatic, uh,
Speaker 1: he told me, automatic, he said, stop the track, he said,
Speaker 1: even though the thought was a chakrat. He met Shakra Khan.
Speaker 1: She's a nice woman. She's a nice woman. It was
Speaker 1: a segue. I'm doing better than the next days of stick,
Speaker 1: he said. Listen, I'm gonna move to a monastery and study.
Speaker 1: Come full, come through, he said. Young dude, he said,
Speaker 1: And it's hard when we're shooting videos with Thursday how
Speaker 1: in the jungle, it's hard for me to be humble.
Speaker 1: When you got to put the okra in the gumble
Speaker 1: shoot it's delicious, hyperbolic, hyperbolic. Find the property said he
Speaker 1: probably see the P I M P. That's why he
Speaker 1: gotta suck, he said, find it in the pocket suit
Speaker 1: final fall out. When he said this hyperbolic step, sepy
Speaker 1: start to stop. Okay, I wrote down in the eighties
Speaker 1: as a long as a long time. It's a long time,
Speaker 1: I said, thank you. In Russian girl spot spots Seba
Speaker 1: Spots Seba. We was levitating. He was meditating with most
Speaker 1: in Barcelona. Watched a lot of legal He said, I'm
Speaker 1: talking to peace, piece to the leader piece. That's why
Speaker 1: we say piece of Frieda. That's why we're saying piece
Speaker 1: of the old, piece of leaders and piece of the creature,
Speaker 1: piece of the beasts. Why the beast is never equal?
Speaker 1: He said me, that's different, and negativity is awful. There's
Speaker 1: no squares in my circle. That's not a waffle. He
Speaker 1: came here off at the top of the dome. I'm
Speaker 1: with stick Man, I'm with Tolo, piece of the love,
Speaker 1: piece of the Zulu piece he said, piece of the YouTube,
Speaker 1: my old G forty six on the bluetooth. He said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to call you be. You're not picking up.
Speaker 1: Said listen, that's an adrenaline rush. I'm sitting with Nori.
Speaker 1: Piece of love, piece of that fan, piece of energy,
Speaker 1: piece of love. There's no pressure. It's the offer that
Speaker 1: all the wrap with through your legends, you know, like
Speaker 1: off the off the drinking. No pressure, no pressure cloud.
Speaker 1: I mean, man, that's on that may hint here for
Speaker 1: my do mind teka may he said a little bit different.
Speaker 1: He said, I know the leader. He said, piece of
Speaker 1: love and piece of freedom ship. Okay, I hit them that, Keith. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all, man, is hip hop were alive? Well,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna do I know what you're doing this
Speaker 1: this final goodvice and it's gonna be a great people.
Speaker 1: We need to talk about RBG Pick Club. Okay. It
Speaker 1: inspires me when I see the movie Man that get
Speaker 1: out of here. But I know that right on, I'm
Speaker 1: going the way A wait, since you did that? Do
Speaker 1: the introduction? Man, God damn clapping up up. Let's clap
Speaker 1: it up for everyone being like, wait, what's what's what's
Speaker 1: the air horse for? And now he's directing the air
Speaker 1: over here. I'm I'm a conscious content a conscious content
Speaker 1: creative m C. That's a new title anyway. Ye so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean quick, quick to the money, like shout out
Speaker 1: to my wife who was my partner in the RBG
Speaker 1: Fit clubat Yeah ABG Fit Club Podcast. What it basically
Speaker 1: is is, you know, long about twelve fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: woke up in Brooklyn with gout in my leg from
Speaker 1: being a drink champ, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: m and it looked out all the time, and I
Speaker 1: decided to clean out, you know, nine years sober, no
Speaker 1: no weed, no alcohol, and just change my life. And
Speaker 1: I started stunning marshal arts and yoga and running and
Speaker 1: became a long distance running coach, marathon all that ship.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that the physical training was gonna
Speaker 1: take me somewhere different, just in optimism, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I had a lot of pessimism with just
Speaker 1: being in the struggle people on cracking my life and
Speaker 1: all that. And when I've seen you just through training
Speaker 1: and being focused, how how I made a difference for me.
Speaker 1: I wanted that for more people. So we created r
Speaker 1: B G Fit Club for that to be a platform.
Speaker 1: It's based in five principles knowledge, nutrition, exercise, rest, and consistency,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And me, my wife is
Speaker 1: a nutritionist, so that's how I got rid of gout
Speaker 1: natural and and so yeah, ALBG Fit Club. We say
Speaker 1: healthy is a new Gangster, and you know we go
Speaker 1: hard on that and it's just about um inspiring people
Speaker 1: for healthy leather. So you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a nutshell. I'm gonna give my life together. But no,
Speaker 1: let me say no no, because it ain't it again,
Speaker 1: It ain't. It ain't a judgment thing. We all got
Speaker 1: different balance and all that. It's about nourishing yourself. It's
Speaker 1: about training, right, but most of us about enjoying life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and just having the wisdom
Speaker 1: of balance and tell if you can't enjoy life, you
Speaker 1: got to know the thing what you really learned is
Speaker 1: we we think that you know, getting high, getting drunk
Speaker 1: is enjoying life and that and it can be fun.
Speaker 1: But you can also enjoy discipline, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You can enjoy the sweat, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's therapeutic when you when you run, it when you
Speaker 1: when you're pushing yourself, you can really enjoy that like
Speaker 1: you can when you run you get a runners hot,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, when you're
Speaker 1: eating the right food, some of the things that you crave, um,
Speaker 1: when you know you're eating better, you don't crave the
Speaker 1: same thing. Like you know, I used a lot of drink.
Speaker 1: Erkan jerk, you know what I mean? All that, but
Speaker 1: once you start jerk, you know I mean? So you
Speaker 1: know that you mean you change, you change your yo yo,
Speaker 1: your your cravings change you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: you go to con in the four and get a
Speaker 1: colonic and get cleaned out, simp for Hendy and tell
Speaker 1: your stomach car you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: it's just about you know, for me, it was about
Speaker 1: I got bigger. I got bigger values than just being
Speaker 1: high all the time. You know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: want to be there for my son's a certain kind
Speaker 1: of way, and I want to be fit. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I want to be I don't want
Speaker 1: to be limping and ship in my twenties, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I want to have more balance. So it's about longevity.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, and supports as my partner,
Speaker 1: and I mean some people who have gained that journey
Speaker 1: to through like healthiness and wellness through some of that
Speaker 1: present songs like be Healthy and as we're sitting here
Speaker 1: and as we inebriated, as we all want to say,
Speaker 1: because devil sitting the trade right, that's the devil right,
Speaker 1: the devil go alive and so and so I just
Speaker 1: want to say, there's a lot of people during our
Speaker 1: shows say thank you for sending me on the journey
Speaker 1: through health and wellness through this song Be healthy, and
Speaker 1: we wrote it at a song where he wasn't really
Speaker 1: at that healthy, you know what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 1: the oxymon run and the thing and that people, the people.
Speaker 1: People are always on their journey, people are learning, changing,
Speaker 1: growing through the process. Is all good. And I love
Speaker 1: to see how many people have Now we're like the
Speaker 1: embracing of like what health and fitnesses in the world,
Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful balance like yeah, but a lot
Speaker 1: of us are really like game. We yeah, we understand
Speaker 1: that wants a drinking water or going to the gym.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of our artists out here working
Speaker 1: out and people like styles p I see Jim's Jones,
Speaker 1: I see nothing. I mean, like so many artists who
Speaker 1: are in the gym, you know fits the fifty Center
Speaker 1: and you know Game or whoever, anybody who who's who
Speaker 1: understands And I mean it can be egotistical, but the
Speaker 1: party and possible is a part of the fact that
Speaker 1: people say, yeah, I want to kind of be here,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and like you can't have your heart yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's not just about what you look like, like
Speaker 1: how much you weigh, Like that's the surface level of help.
Speaker 1: It's for us, it's holistic help right, So it's how
Speaker 1: we feel, you know what I mean? Became yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we like such an early age, one years old people
Speaker 1: is a McDonald's. That's what. That's what got me out.
Speaker 1: We was fighting, were fighting, We were fighting every day
Speaker 1: with everything. We was going through journeys of figuring out
Speaker 1: vegetarianism and veganism. There wasn't even a really aspect of
Speaker 1: vegan at that point. It wasn't a thing. They still
Speaker 1: so so so at that point, like we were trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out. We we don't know. We're like, okay,
Speaker 1: stop even beating the message to the message not start
Speaker 1: I'm poor chicken, the beef. What do we eat? And
Speaker 1: we we used to drowning and and relapsing and Kentucky
Speaker 1: Fried chicken double teeth backing the ship. But just because
Speaker 1: during the week we're trying to stop so hard. But
Speaker 1: it's a balance and it's a like staff, it's a
Speaker 1: culture that's people could have the knowledge, right, That's another thing. People,
Speaker 1: you can have an information right. We we know we're
Speaker 1: supposed to drink water, we know we're supposed to eat greens,
Speaker 1: and you know we have the information right. But we
Speaker 1: don't have the inspiration that acted on it. Right. So
Speaker 1: that's what R B G Fit Club is about. Its
Speaker 1: creating using we make music around it. So like um um,
Speaker 1: so you can have the inspiration to door like there's
Speaker 1: something like coaching them new album healthy Gangster Like. It's
Speaker 1: about when you when you need that extra push, when
Speaker 1: you felt like half ass and today you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna give it a hunting and ten percent because it's motivating,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, that's the part missing
Speaker 1: this the information age. It ain't no information you can't
Speaker 1: get but you can't get you can't um information don't
Speaker 1: apply itself. You know, inspiration gotta do that. So we
Speaker 1: used the culture to bring it forward. Its beautiful out
Speaker 1: to get spreaders. And though the hip hop we have
Speaker 1: no age limit, we have no limitation, we have no nothing.
Speaker 1: We can continue to do this ship as long as
Speaker 1: we want. We ain't playing football. We been running on
Speaker 1: our This ain't basketball. Well needs didn't you drop out?
Speaker 1: I'm a Williams. My LEAs is not good. Everybody everybody
Speaker 1: black named Williams out there. I believe you. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell you. I believe what I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: you as and I like, these people want to push
Speaker 1: us out of this. Uh. And they want to just
Speaker 1: because they say it's a young man's sport and they
Speaker 1: can feel a young man's sport as a young man's version. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a young man's version. Yeah, hip is. I mean
Speaker 1: it's wrong by the youth. That's why we can't believe,
Speaker 1: like really like critique them too much, because that's there.
Speaker 1: The thing is, the thing is we have our own
Speaker 1: audience to kated to. Right, we should be worried about
Speaker 1: the audience. And yeah, I see we're saying that. We
Speaker 1: talk about old school in our show, right, And when
Speaker 1: you say the word old school, people think they automatically
Speaker 1: think a time period, right, But that's not what old
Speaker 1: school means. Old school means a certain set of values,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that and that's timeless,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's not about going
Speaker 1: going back to our era and trying to recreate that
Speaker 1: is having the values in you know, that's timeless. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying timeless. And this is what I was just
Speaker 1: trying to tell the brothers is you know, um, so
Speaker 1: many people so many, you know, they just go unappreciated,
Speaker 1: and then sometimes a person don't even you don't even
Speaker 1: get the chance to hear thank you. And the staff
Speaker 1: the position that your brothers took as a person that
Speaker 1: knew better. But I was just so involved with the
Speaker 1: other part them like I was. I knew, I knew
Speaker 1: how to talk to the gangsters, way more to speak
Speaker 1: to I don't know how to speak to them, But
Speaker 1: I also spoke to the guard bodies. If you listen
Speaker 1: to my music, I spoke to them because that's where
Speaker 1: I came from. But your brothers was out front, y'all,
Speaker 1: front line brother. I was second wrong. But I appreciate you,
Speaker 1: and that's appreciate that's really versus what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like me like dies and people like that.
Speaker 1: We were second roll because we had to still we
Speaker 1: want to sell bitches and ship and people and we
Speaker 1: got Yeah, I'm not like that up up because it's
Speaker 1: like even even when like we're big fans that you know,
Speaker 1: you you see like you were a part of us,
Speaker 1: want to be a duo and all that, man we
Speaker 1: look at you, is you in this box or box?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? We know where it's coming
Speaker 1: from that we all influence and trying to grow and
Speaker 1: give power, you know what I'm saying. So that's how
Speaker 1: we appreciate you all with me in the front line
Speaker 1: and the last thing that I live. I just need
Speaker 1: you to leave these they'll stop. You don't have to
Speaker 1: talk to every racist on Twitter. Like every racist on Twitter,
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like you wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I keep killing them. Don't keep
Speaker 1: killing like like that perspect you know, like I get im.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it work for you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but let me just say some time because let me
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm like, Man, it's it's it's really
Speaker 1: awesome that there is someone who's a star war fun
Speaker 1: that isn't Yeah, that's what I like, kind of get that.
Speaker 1: And I'd be like in my mind, I like, you're
Speaker 1: like my spirit Twitter animal, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know why he's bringing light to these people though.
Speaker 1: So the thing about that's exactly what the thing about
Speaker 1: it is, like that's these people are really the people
Speaker 1: that are the person that says that that other people
Speaker 1: who bring the cars back in Walmart and they're like
Speaker 1: little to be at the top, they will be frying.
Speaker 1: He'll go and look at the Facebook from six months ago.
Speaker 1: You had a Confederate flag. Remember now you playing future?
Speaker 1: I see you God, And I was like, what you
Speaker 1: give this guy his whole little audience, just crazy people
Speaker 1: just following you sat back and I just wanted to
Speaker 1: like and yeah, people audience. So I just want you
Speaker 1: to be because you're giving people audi Sometimes I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. I'nna be honest. Right, the most craziest ship
Speaker 1: in the world. Right, if right now I stood right there,
Speaker 1: just fully closed, no one would would say something bro
Speaker 1: stood right there, budass. Next year we will all turn
Speaker 1: around the thing. Right, But what happens if we just
Speaker 1: said that, don't look at them exactly. Don't look at
Speaker 1: them exactly. This is what this is what rollers? But
Speaker 1: this smatrollers can't stand hit my perspective, you don't look
Speaker 1: into my you know what, they're standing the naked. For
Speaker 1: my perspective, if you were sitting there naked and we
Speaker 1: all pretended that we didn't see it, you were super shire.
Speaker 1: I never that it's true, and that's true. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's still a problem. So but the minute you
Speaker 1: say something I could indulge back. And the thing is
Speaker 1: is you have such a big audience and you sometimes
Speaker 1: I love because I've really follow you. I love it,
Speaker 1: I really followed you and not really sometimes that, but
Speaker 1: you'll be following the person who has seventeen follow us
Speaker 1: and then actually I'm going to progress. That person will
Speaker 1: be a hundred and seventy three until they get yes
Speaker 1: and then they're going yeah because you you do force them.
Speaker 1: I do for if you keep going, I love it
Speaker 1: and don't get high blood pressure. Yeah, listen, listen and
Speaker 1: we got I know we got no problem, but I
Speaker 1: got I have a very high I have. My life
Speaker 1: is very I have a incredible life. I need one
Speaker 1: advice for you, wine of champagne for me, champagne. Let's
Speaker 1: go very very credible life. I don't have to do
Speaker 1: anything I don't want to do them. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people are working class. They gotta do ship. They
Speaker 1: don't want to do anything like I choose to do
Speaker 1: what I want to do. What I'm saying, and I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm working class, like I'm not rich for any leaves,
Speaker 1: like I gotta go out there and work for a living.
Speaker 1: But I'm blessed to be able to choose when and
Speaker 1: how I do. Right, So if you see me on twitters,
Speaker 1: because I'm enjoying that, shoot like and and and that's
Speaker 1: the part of it that I appreciate that people really
Speaker 1: be concerned about that. Sure you'd be like, have you
Speaker 1: seen me like that ship? Give me fucking superpowers? Like
Speaker 1: Takanye with the Magahazen, like how you feel when he
Speaker 1: read whatever was saying. Yeah, So I enjoyed. I wasn't
Speaker 1: with the problem is with the platform. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm giving people. But here's the thing I'm from. I'm
Speaker 1: from the I'm from the cloth of make a racist famous.
Speaker 1: It like like I want all of them to be famous.
Speaker 1: I want I want them to be famous. I want
Speaker 1: to see him coming. I want to lose school school,
Speaker 1: especially in this era of social media where you're talking
Speaker 1: about people who voluntarily saying, I'm a post to Nazi
Speaker 1: ship on Twitter and I'm you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like and like Donald Trump, Donald Trump was running for president,
Speaker 1: he retreated neo Nazi account seventy five times. I was saying.
Speaker 1: A year later, Nazis is marching to Charlotte, Charlottesville running
Speaker 1: motherfucker's over killing my fucking you know, to me, this
Speaker 1: is not comminker know what I'm saying, And that's all
Speaker 1: it is. Like I'm looking at it like like in
Speaker 1: the online face in the digital space, black class man.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, Spike, and I was interested to
Speaker 1: see it because a Spike. He it was ill Spikes
Speaker 1: the ship it was. But my mind is it reminded
Speaker 1: me of you because something you like. He gave a
Speaker 1: guy the audience, but he he actually brought him down,
Speaker 1: but it was so much. The thing about it is
Speaker 1: he has spent so much time on taking this guy
Speaker 1: because he was speaking to David Duke. This is a
Speaker 1: black guy because David Duke is some story, right, yeah, story,
Speaker 1: But think about like you. I feel like I know
Speaker 1: where your mind is. I know I act time you
Speaker 1: came here. I asked you to get in the politics.
Speaker 1: You I don't think you said you wanted to be
Speaker 1: in politics. Um remember okay, but um, because that's what
Speaker 1: I think. I think. I'm sorry. I feel like like
Speaker 1: t I, if t I was mayor Atlanta, I would
Speaker 1: with Atlanta a little bit more than already. Politics. It's
Speaker 1: a cold game. But the thing is that it's the
Speaker 1: music business. Just hit me out, hit me out, me,
Speaker 1: hit me out, hit me out, hit me out killing
Speaker 1: I never okay, hit me out, hit me out. The
Speaker 1: way you got examples of the music business, right, you
Speaker 1: got like cool herbs, and you got like um these
Speaker 1: people who who sacrificed for us, but then they didn't
Speaker 1: make it. But then you keep going up the ladder
Speaker 1: and there's people more and more and more. I think
Speaker 1: that We'll Smith and Dave Chappelle, although they were playing around,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think they were playing definitely, But
Speaker 1: I would not that was just playing. I would not
Speaker 1: how about how about me? I would not just want
Speaker 1: to say, there's some very equipped brothers. It takes more
Speaker 1: than just like popularity, not nowadays, that's not what who's
Speaker 1: in the order to get it. I get it, but
Speaker 1: that's that's not qualifies leadership. But that's not what qualiflies
Speaker 1: Will Smith is doing with his family qualifies as me.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that his
Speaker 1: old family, I feel like he gets struck. I'm saying
Speaker 1: way glory I understand that and believed me like because
Speaker 1: in this age, because of that, none of his daughters
Speaker 1: was component of person who we can have some accountability
Speaker 1: to around themselfs icons that that's a strong black man.
Speaker 1: When you got I'm not I'm not himself about I'm
Speaker 1: not man. No one debated that ship. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say that. Shut up, I'm not mad. I didn't
Speaker 1: win to put some sparriness niggas spells nigga said that
Speaker 1: was a strong black man. You have a sorry. I
Speaker 1: don't even can't we eat pork? At this point, I
Speaker 1: still sucking with Will Smith like that. That ain't nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, we're poking all that. I don't even
Speaker 1: Will Smith. Chapelle's to put in the galaxy some ship,
Speaker 1: some ship that could bounce back and maybe and then
Speaker 1: we can say, yo, we want to really do that
Speaker 1: to day? Is it we endorsing Dave Chappelle Will Smith?
Speaker 1: He said, I got to do I respectfully, I read
Speaker 1: with the factor Jesus, great guy. It's what we got
Speaker 1: the doors Dave Chappelle. But I was I would flipping.
Speaker 1: I would say Dave Chappelle for president and Will Smith
Speaker 1: vice president. You know why? You know what? Disagreeing he
Speaker 1: had too much and this is not too much. Can't Bush.
Speaker 1: We don't fertiicizeber because we gotta go. But listen, real
Speaker 1: for real, you wouldn't you would? I would you would?
Speaker 1: I mean you now you now you gotta qualifiers. But
Speaker 1: obviously obviously my choices between Will Smith and Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: who else is qu for the next Okay? So then
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Okay? Yeah, because the who would
Speaker 1: who would you get behind that was running for the
Speaker 1: txt president? That really bod could with him? You're talking
Speaker 1: about Corey booking Florian book. I kind of disagree with
Speaker 1: some of you know he in New Jersey. I just no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we we disagree with him for real, for real, would
Speaker 1: be it's hard corean corean don't do It's hard in
Speaker 1: this in this space because people haven't have to be
Speaker 1: aligned with Like what's going on in this power structure? Man,
Speaker 1: my fucking beat is running it and they aliveing. It's
Speaker 1: who are enforcing partners, spitting on everything, They're enforcing the
Speaker 1: policy to make its real talk, that's what's happening. Like
Speaker 1: you got like people with money who buying the presidency?
Speaker 1: So like so you asked me, who then doesn't have
Speaker 1: to qualify to be a rich person and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about people who really understand leadership and who can lay
Speaker 1: down organization. They're gonna lead fairness, people who were, like,
Speaker 1: really been studying. I'm an anti capitalist. So there's almost
Speaker 1: nobody in this in this shape, but I think everybody
Speaker 1: understand doing better. I think Bernie because and that's why
Speaker 1: people understand killer Mike Moore because he was a supporter
Speaker 1: of burning. My thing is like it might be crazy, man,
Speaker 1: all these people kind of that's that's kind of there's
Speaker 1: someone who's ten years old, I kill Mike, though. There's
Speaker 1: someone who's someone I just want to say this click.
Speaker 1: There's someone who's ten years old who is not invested,
Speaker 1: because everybody's invested. And that's what I've come to understand.
Speaker 1: Like I'm invested. I got kid kids to feed, but
Speaker 1: they're at a point. Has to be somebody who's not
Speaker 1: invested that says I see a better world than this
Speaker 1: because we all got to pay the piper. And then
Speaker 1: so somebody says all that, why don't we live fairly?
Speaker 1: And I think that matters that there's movies you can
Speaker 1: call it a fairy tale or whatever the fun, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say somebody here that there's yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a Corey Bookers and the Kamala harris Is and the
Speaker 1: and the people who are standing up in this democratic
Speaker 1: versus republican But I ain't know this people who's not
Speaker 1: none of that. Shout out to Rosa Clemente, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Shout out to Rosa clement to show, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie Rick Puerto Rican, Rosa clement You,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. If I could, if I could
Speaker 1: have Will Smith in the White House. When you got
Speaker 1: a movie you can text, you got that movie, you
Speaker 1: can that. Yeah, I'm let's make a listen, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna bush that roll spiperda take a picture, a
Speaker 1: picture in a couple of drops. All right, No, ta
Speaker 1: works first, pure, you gotta relax. This was great, Yo,
Speaker 1: This was great. This is like