1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcomed Aaron Manky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of I 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is full 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. When you think of the nomadic conquerors of history, 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: you probably first think of Genghis Khan, then perhaps Attila 8 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: in the Huns. But the fierce, often brutal warrior mentality 9 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: didn't end there. In seventy for example, a Turco Mongol 10 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: warlord by the name of tamer Lane came into power, 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: and unlike any other commander in the history of military might, 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: tammer Lane was never defeated. However, he was the last 13 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: of the great nomadic conquerors, as a new era began 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: encroaching into the end of his reign with the expanse 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: of civilization. He died in February of fourteen o five 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: during an uncharacteristic winter campaign against the Chinese Ming dynasty, 17 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: and was buried in Saint Marcan in a tomb that 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: still stands today. And because he was such a big deal. 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: It has its own name, Guri Amir. For most though, 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: death is usually the end of the story. When Genghis 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Khan died, the Mongols splintered the same with Attila and 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: his huns, and for the most part, that happened to 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: Tamerlane as well. But that's not the story that we're 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: here to talk about. We're here to discuss the fact 25 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: that he may or may not have taken a curse 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: with him to the grave, a curse that might well 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: have changed the course of human history. By now, we've 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: all heard of curses, of course, thanks to the supposed 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: curses that came from Egyptian rulers like King tut as 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: well as modern cinematic curses like those we see in 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Indiana Jones or the Mummy. Seeing excavation teams meet untimely 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: demises isn't quite as extraordinary as it might have once been. 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: But tammer Lane's curse hit on a much bigger scale, 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: and it all started with an intrepid Soviet scientist named 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Mikhail Gerassimov, who was in the midst of pioneering the 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: field of paleo anthropological facial reconstruction. Simply put, he dug 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: up the dead and use the remains to give us 38 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: spitting images of what the deceased might have looked like. 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: You can probably guess what happened next. Tamer Lane was 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: on Mikhal's list, and given the doctor's track record, Joseph 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Stalin himself was all for it. Although no one is 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: quite sure why, Michael set off to sam Marcan to 43 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: both verify that it was tamer Lane buried there and 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: to give the world another conqueror's face. As soon as 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: he arrived, though, the locals cried out against the expedition team, 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: worried that they would unleash a legendary curse, and the 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: local Muslim religious leaders tried to stop the exhimation for 48 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the same reason. After all, a tomb was inscribed with 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: some pretty daunting words. When I rise from the dead, 50 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: it said, the world shall tremble. Michail heard the words 51 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: from the keeper of the tomb, notified Moscow just in case, 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: and then promptly arrested the man for spreading false rumors 53 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: and instigating the public outcry. On June nineteenth, though things 54 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: went sideways. A beautiful slab of green jade was removed 55 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: from atop the remains of tamer Lane, And there Michaal 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: found another inscription with yet another threat, whomsoever opens my 57 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: tomb shall unleash an invader more terrible than I. Still unfhazed, 58 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: the body was taken and carted off to Russia, where 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: it underwent intensive study and led to an exact facial 60 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: reconstruction of what the Great Conqueror had looked like. But 61 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: at what cost. Three days later, in a seemingly unrelated event, 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Nazi Germany initiated Operation Barbarossa and attacked Russia. Perhaps tamer 63 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Lane had called his shot with this invader more terrible 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: than him. Moscow was wise to the warnings of tamer 65 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Lane's tomb, but they had bigger fish to fry fending 66 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: off the invasion by Germany. Still being of a superstitious sort, 67 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Stalin knew that he needed to undo the curse that 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Gerasimov had initiated, not just yet, though he had a 69 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: war to fight. A little over a year later, in 70 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: November of nineteen two, Stalin finally got a bright idea. 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: If it was tamer Lane's curse that had instigated the 72 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: conflict with Germany, maybe he could end it too. So 73 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: the body was loaded into an aircraft and flown back 74 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: to sam Marcan, where it was buried with full honors 75 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: in traditional fashion. One month later, the Battle of Stalingrad 76 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: turned the tide of war and gave Russia a victory 77 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: on the Eastern Front, a victory that would push the 78 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Nazis into losing the war entirely. Whatever role tamer Lane 79 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: did or didn't have in changing the outcome of World 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: War Two, we'll never know for sure, because while the 81 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: face that McHale reconstructed from the conqueror's remains is remarkably lifelike, 82 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: it's sadly I can't answer our questions when it comes 83 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: to unexplained phenomena. It's not uncommon for world leaders to 84 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: be directly involved with their analysis or cover up. For example, 85 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: the US government has been keeping Area fifty one in 86 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: the Nevada Desert under wraps for decades. America's military continues 87 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: to claim that the object that crashed in Roswell, New 88 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Mexico in nineteen forty seven was part of a surveillance balloon, 89 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: not an alien spacecraft, And in nineteen seventy nine, a 90 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: certain English Prime Minister made it her mission to track 91 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: down one of the most mysterious creatures ever documented. That 92 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher, who held the position from 93 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine until November of nine. She was known 94 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: for her staunch conservative views, which led to a rise 95 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: in poverty and income in equality across the UK. She 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: was tough too, earning her the nickname the Iron Lady, 97 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: and for good reason. However, in one of her first 98 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: acts as Prime Minister, Thatcher did not repeal financial regulations 99 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: or privatized nationalized industries like gas and water. No, those 100 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: came later. Instead, she set her sights on a menace 101 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: stalking the waters of Scotland, a beast that had eluded hunters, 102 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: scientists and tourists for centuries, and it was time to 103 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: bring it to justice. I'm talking, of course, about the 104 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Luckness Monster, and surprisingly Thatcher had no interest in catching 105 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 1: it or mounting it on her wall. Rather, she wanted 106 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: to protect Nessie, and to do so she would use dolphins. 107 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: That's right, dolphins, but not just any dolphins. She wrote 108 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: a letter to the Scottish Home and Health Department requesting 109 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: the import of trained dolphins provided by the United States Navy. 110 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: They would be placed in Lochness with high tech gadgets 111 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: affixed to them in order to sniff out the creature. 112 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: This plot was believed to have been concocted by noted 113 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: monster hunter doctor Robert Rynes from America in nineteen seventy two. 114 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Ryans had taken several underwater photographs of blurry flippers and 115 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: torsos in Loch Ness that he claimed belonged to NeSSI herself. 116 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: His obsession brought him back to Scotland countless times over 117 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: the span of thirty five years, with each visit involving 118 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: more equipment and technology. Unfortunately, his research never panned out, 119 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: at least not according to the wider scientific community, but 120 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister was convinced, and so she pushed for 121 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: a dolphin led investigation. When word got out about Thatcher's plans, 122 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: though the public rose up in opposition. Animal rights activists 123 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: didn't want her using dolphins for such a bizarre objective. 124 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: NeSSI enthusiasts worried that Thatcher's plan would actually result in 125 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: the monster being caught and killed. So what was her 126 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: reason for using trained dolphins? Well, for one, Sweden had 127 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: reached out to the UK to understand how they were 128 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: planning to protect the Lockness monster. The Swedes were looking 129 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: to secure the safety of their own lake monster, a 130 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: serpent whose existence had dated back all the way to 131 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the mid sixteen hundreds. But the real reason tourism the 132 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: UK's economy was suffering. Inflation was up, and Thatcher was 133 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: trying to bring in money however she could. If she 134 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: could track down Nessie and reveal it to the public, 135 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the discovery would bring in untold amounts from tourists all 136 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: over the world, and that meant money flowing back into 137 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the banks of the UK. Margaret Thatcher was not known 138 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: as a jokester, yet her plan to protect Nessie was 139 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: done with her tongue planted, at least partly in her cheek. 140 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Whether she really believed in Nessie is unknown, but she 141 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: believed in it enough to warrant a formal inquest into 142 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: the use of US naval animals to find her. Thatcher 143 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: had also pursued the lockness Monster as a lighthearted response 144 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: to the Swedes, telling them that the Secretary of States 145 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: could add NeSSI to the endangered species list for added protection. 146 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Her letters about the operation, as well as the responses 147 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: she received, were classified for many years, then in two 148 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: thousand six they were made public under the Freedom of 149 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: Information Act. One letter in particular from the Stockholm Embassy 150 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: had been addressed to the Scottish Office. It was in 151 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: reference to Sweden's questions about Nessie's protection. If that's your responded, 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: saying the inquiry is a serious one and we should 153 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: like to give them at least a half serious reply. Well, 154 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: that serious reply came in when Nessie was officially placed 155 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: under the protection of the UK's Wildlife and Countryside Act 156 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: and the best part of all, no dolphins required. I 157 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. 158 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, or learn more about 159 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. 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