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Speaker 2: I knew they were a good team, winning environment, and

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Rocoball Dalley joining us right now live

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Speaker 3: from Twins Camp. Rocco, good morning, great to see you.

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Speaker 3: How's the last week and a half year going of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good morning, guys. The camp's gone really well. Got

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Speaker 4: that many of them have been through these spring trainings before.

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Speaker 4: They know what they're all about. They know they're about

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Speaker 4: and all the players have they've taken to it, especially

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to That's actually a great place to start.

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Speaker 6: That was actually my first question, you know, just coming

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Speaker 5: It was all about you know, I watched Pooh Hoosts.

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Speaker 6: I watch so many veteran guys seventy five at bats

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Speaker 6: screen training, right, all the off season workouts you do,

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Speaker 6: it's nothing like being on your feet. How did they

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Speaker 6: I think playing more, not only playing more, but playing

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think one of the main points.

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Speaker 4: I think they took it on a personal level in

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Speaker 4: more at bats, the more pitches, the more I'm on

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Speaker 7: It just it felt like.

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Speaker 8: Do you feel like this is a gamble? Do you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I think the longer you're in

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Speaker 4: You learn from the past, you learn from from history,

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Speaker 6: Four hundred and fifty seven wins six most all the time.

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Speaker 6: For me, when I think about that, and then going

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Speaker 6: you guys, you know, look excited to come and show

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Speaker 5: I think that's who makes the train go.

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Speaker 6: Talking to Byron Bucks and talking to typ France is

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Speaker 5: What is your main focus to get the best after

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Speaker 6: Right, last year's in the past, Rock Obaldilli as a manager,

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Speaker 4: Well, I think anyone you know in my shoes really

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Speaker 7: Do you set a tone? Yes, you do.

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Speaker 4: You know you have to get up there day one

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Speaker 7: And that's all that you can really do with Can

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Speaker 8: Us an update on Royce. He's gonna start the year

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Speaker 8: how is he handling it, because it feels like it's

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Speaker 8: another another fallback. It's like, you know, to me, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always going to be emotional dealing with stuff

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Speaker 7: He is going to start the year in the il.

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Speaker 7: We all know it. We see it on a daily basis.

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Speaker 4: The rest of the league gets to see it whenever,

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Speaker 8: The extreme case of depth, we just watched them play

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Speaker 7: Did that one work out ideally? Of course not.

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Speaker 7: We have a lot of good young players.

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Speaker 4: It's nice to have good young players that have real

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Speaker 6: Back when I was probably fourteen to fifteen, A lot

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Speaker 5: Right it's my job. I was a bat boy there.

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Speaker 6: You inspired me, and I watched you carry yourself as

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Speaker 5: I watched you as a teammate.

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Speaker 5: It was fun to watch that.

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Speaker 4: You know what, at that point in our lives, honestly,

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Speaker 7: But I remember that league. I remember how tough that

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Speaker 4: As a young player for me, like, you know, right

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Speaker 5: I love it, man.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate absolutely, Thank you so much. That's really cool.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Guys, sitting back then, a dollar two went a long

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Speaker 1: That was big.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 7: Good to be here with you. Guys.

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Speaker 4: Good to see it too, even if it's only on

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Speaker 7: Come come visit us sometime.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's introduce Ty France, New Minnesota twin joining us

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Speaker 3: Look at actually super jacked and having a great spring training.

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Speaker 2: Really good? The off season was great. It was definitely needed.

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Speaker 8: on your shoulder, like complacency, you feel comfortable where you're at.

442
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 8: Do you have to change who you are? Like it's

443
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 8: almost like when game time comes, I gotta like be

444
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 8: somebody different.

445
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 2: No, I think I've been the same person my whole

446
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 2: whole career, the same teammate. You know, if you if

447
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,360
Speaker 2: you give me your best effort, I'm gonna give you mine.

448
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 2: And you know, just come to work every day and

449
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 2: give it a hundred percent. So as far as the

450
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 2: teammate stuff now, like I treat the guys the same

451
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 2: no matter what, whether it's.

452
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 1: A good day or bad day.

453
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 2: And I also, now at this point of my career,

454
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: understand how hard this game is and sometimes you know,

455
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 2: you need to be that light in the clubhouse, So

456
00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 2: try and be that as much as I can.

457
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 6: I want to talk about that, not to make any

458
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 6: excuses for you. Accountability clearly is something that you're all about,

459
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 6: but we all know the game starts from the ground up.

460
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 6: How much did that heal injury actually affects you when

461
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 6: you're talking about standing the box, being in your legs,

462
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 6: being connected. Can you talk did it have a little

463
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 6: bit to do with kind of the I think I

464
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 6: guess backslides on the me.

465
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would say a little bit. You know,

466
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: it happened.

467
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 2: I only took I think it was the ten days

468
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: and then got right back in there and the competitor

469
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: and you just want to be out there and you

470
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: want to be out there for your team and be

471
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 2: able to compete with them. And I think I probably

472
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 2: rushed back sooner than I should have, but that's I've

473
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 2: done that with multiple injuries now and I need to

474
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: learn that. You know, it's not always the best to

475
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: rush back, and because it could, it could hurt you personally.

476
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: So I think I did rush back a little too soon,

477
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: created some bad habits, and like you said, when you

478
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: don't have your legs under you, this game is very difficult.

479
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: So it probably contributed little bit, But like.

480
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to put all the blame

481
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: on that. At the end of the day and even

482
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: go out and compete, what.

483
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 8: Are the chances one hundred and five hip by pitches

484
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 8: and you get hit in the heel and it breaks

485
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 8: you here? Like, what are the chances? And did you

486
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 8: have any other really close calls on all of those

487
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 8: one hundred and five other one hundred and four hip

488
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 8: By pitches that you're like, I thought that was the

489
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 8: one that got me, not like not the heel though.

490
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I took a few hundred milin hour fastballs

491
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: off the forearm that I thought would have, you know,

492
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: done a little bit more damage. But it's kind of

493
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to call it funny, but just a

494
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: coincidence that that backfoot slider that fractured my heel was

495
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: the hip Bye pitch that broke the Mariners record, the

496
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: hippie pitch record.

497
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: So the one that broke the record broke me.

498
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 5: So I want to talk about this.

499
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 6: You you come here to Minnesota, south of Twins, How

500
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 6: did that conversation go, How did that process go? What

501
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 6: did they tell you that they saw on you? And

502
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 6: then talk about kind of a unique deal so to

503
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 6: speak as well.

504
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think going more off the talking about the

505
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 2: deal is just they wanted to see me come in

506
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: and prove that I was my old self just before,

507
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: you know, fully fully committing. And so that was a

508
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: lot of the teams this offseason was just they still.

509
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: Believed I could do it, but I needed to go

510
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: out and prove it.

511
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: So for me, it was just trying to find the

512
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: best fit where you know, I knew a k new

513
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: a group of guys here. I knew they were a

514
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,959
Speaker 2: good team, winning environment, and saw a lot of opportunity

515
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: for me to come and help this team.

516
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: So it was the best fit and very grateful for

517
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Speaker 1: the opportunity.

518
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 8: Is that fair that all the teams were asking the

519
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 8: same thing, like, ah, you got to prove it, like

520
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 8: you're like I was an All star, Like it hasn't

521
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 8: even really been, Like I got shirts that are older

522
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 8: than my All Star shirts. Like, it's not do you

523
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 8: feel like that's fair?

524
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: How?

525
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 8: Maybe not so just you, but like the league in

526
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 8: general is viewing guys who can still do it and

527
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 8: now they're like, oh, you know what, let's have a

528
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 8: tryout day for a month.

529
00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing about this game is fair. But you know,

531
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: it's just one of those things where it's out of

532
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: your control. And yeah, they just kind of the middle

533
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: to lower free agents probably don't get the love that

534
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: they should. You know, you see guys like Mark Canna,

535
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, James McCann, these guys signing minor league deals

536
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: when they still have a lot to offer. So it's

537
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: just part of the business. It is what it is.

538
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I said, not much about this game

539
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: is fair.

540
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 5: I love it all right?

541
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 8: You were you were an All Star in Seattle? Correct, Yeah,

542
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 8: so you got a hit in Seattle to be an

543
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 8: All Star. So much has been made about the batter's

544
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 8: eye being at an angle or tough to see. Did

545
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 8: you see that or do you hear that in the

546
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 8: dugout through the guys?

547
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: I know the batter's eye situation.

548
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: That really wasn't much of a conversation that we would

549
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: have never known that unless someone came out and said

550
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: it so, And this day, I don't even know if

551
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: someone's gone out there and measured it. So like it's

552
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: that one's hard to put blame on that. Is it

553
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: hard hitting there?

554
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

555
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean just the ball doesn't carry well. You got

556
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: to kind of change your approach a little bit there.

557
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 2: The power numbers are going to go down. But at

558
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like I personally didn't have

559
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: a problem with it because I'm not the kind of guy,

560
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: right handed poll of power hitter that needs to go

561
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: out and hit forty. I think those guys are the

562
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: ones that are more affected by it. I'm more of

563
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: a gap to gap drive the ball all over the field,

564
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: and those guys can have success.

565
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 8: There is there something we talk about teams that build

566
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 8: around their field, Kaufman, the Royals, they build speed in

567
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 8: the outfield to go track balls down so they gazelle's

568
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 8: out there. Is there something that the Mariners could take

569
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 8: advantage of that stadium because you're here, you know, oh man,

570
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 8: forty Homer guys are going to go to die in Seattle,

571
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 8: which I think there's value somewhere, especially right handed hitters.

572
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're a lefty power guy, I

573
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: think the ball carries well to right field, So I

574
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: don't think that part's an issue. But you know, just

575
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: building off off of kind of the gap to gap

576
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: approach and you know, taking your hits more so than

577
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: than trying to drive the ball. And this game it's

578
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: it's gone so one sided to the power aspect that you.

579
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: Know, averages average is dying. Like people don't care.

580
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: They'd rather have a guy hit two ten with thirty

581
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: to thirty five instead of you know too eighty with fifteen.

582
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: So like you know that that average aspects dying. But

583
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: I think there you have to take your hits. You

584
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: have to have to have a good average there because

585
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: the power power numbers as are righty are tough to get.

586
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: I want to stay there, right.

587
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 6: We talk about we're in the era now where you

588
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 6: get rewarded for homer Homer nothing right, But you talk

589
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 6: about it, and you've always been a guy who's shown

590
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 6: it takes a lot of pride in being a quality

591
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 6: at bad right, a tough out even as a power guy.

592
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 6: How difficult as it being for you to stay in

593
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 6: your approach. Did you at some point even get away

594
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 6: from your approach? But as you say it, like you said,

595
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 6: watching how the game is kind of transitioned.

596
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely do. Think the last year or two,

597
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: I've tried to become more of a power hitter. And

598
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: if if you go look pull side power, my pul

599
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: side fly ball rate has gone down and my pulside

600
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: ground ball rate has gone up because I'm trying to

601
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: hit the ball in the air pulside instead of just

602
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: letting it happen. So yeah, it's a weird probably, especially

603
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: going through like the arbitration process and stuff like that.

604
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: The home run is very valued in arbitration, so guys

605
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: kind of lean try to lean more on that. And

606
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: the pitching's pretty good now, so you know, to be

607
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: able to be a guy who hits forty homers, it's

608
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: not too common now.

609
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 6: So okay, so let me ask that what that said.

610
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 6: A lot of talk has been about Minnesota not making

611
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: this move of that move. Well, going to the clubouse,

612
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 6: I see a guy in yourself. I see a guy

613
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 6: Harrison Mader who you guys bring value to any clubhouse

614
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 6: that you're in. What are Minnesota fans going to get

615
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 6: from you that they might not be aware of.

616
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 5: What do you bring into this this organization?

617
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like one thing the last few

618
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: years I've kind of gotten knocked pretty hard on for

619
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: some reason was my defense. And those that actually sit

620
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: there and watch the game, I'm a pretty good first base.

621
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, they don't value.

622
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: At least on the computer, you know, picking a ball,

623
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 2: save saving your short stuff from an air, and you know,

624
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: just the little things that we do on the field

625
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: defensive wise, we don't get we don't get loved for

626
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: us first baseman. And if you go and look, there

627
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: were only two last year on I'm just going to

628
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: go based off of fangrass, but there are only two

629
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: positive first basemen in their defensive war category and that

630
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: was Christian Walker Carlos Santana. And when you go and

631
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: ask for answers, they don't really have. Like if first

632
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: baseman just get knocked for some reason, I don't.

633
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: Know where it is.

634
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 6: Even Pete saved a ton of round Yeah, I talked

635
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 6: about that exactly.

636
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: So it's it's those things that you know, I think

637
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: personally I bring I play a pretty good defense and

638
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, I try to I try to be I

639
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: know we have Buck Correa, a handful of veteran guys

640
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: in this locker room. But just trying to be as

641
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: good of a leader and lead by example as much

642
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: as I can, and you know, lastly, just come out

643
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: and be myself and you know, hopefully the smile.

644
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

645
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, you got stuck in misery for a little

646
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 6: a long time. I told you good baseballs and tags

647
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 6: just like bad baseball and tager. So I think you're

648
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 6: in a good spot. Your managers spoke highly of your

649
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 6: spring training, so we're rooting for you.

650
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: Man.

651
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.

652
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 8: You're right for that call. You're ready for that cold

653
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 8: up there. I mean, you're you're got a nice little

654
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 8: bronze on.

655
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: I was in Seattle four years.

656
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, Seattle is cool. We're talking cold.

657
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 8: You're gonna be hitting rocks. It's gonna be snowing in

658
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 8: May up there. Are you ready for that? Did they

659
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 8: prepare you for that?

660
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there's really a way to

661
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: train for that. But you know, we opened up too.

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Speaker 2: I think it was two or three years ago. We

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Speaker 2: opened up in Minnesota, and our first game got snowed out,

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Speaker 2: so I kind of know what to expect going in there.

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Speaker 3: You go, well, Ty, best of luck, keep doing your

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Speaker 3: thing here in spring training. It's been fun to watch

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Speaker 3: rooting for you this season, and thanks for joining us man,

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Speaker 3: And yes, am I right.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Ty's been hitting the gym. That pop's gonna come naturally

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Speaker 3: this year. You're just gonna get that natural swing and

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Speaker 3: the pulside pop.

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Speaker 7: Is going to be like, whoo, there we go.

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Speaker 3: Even in Minnesota where it's probably what that park's probably

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Speaker 3: a little neutral. For a while, it was looked at

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Speaker 3: as a pitcher's park, but is it.

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Speaker 8: I love it to left there. I love it to

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Speaker 8: left there, and that high wall and right gives you

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Speaker 8: confidence that they're not going to run balls down. But

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Speaker 8: something he said was so awesome that I think everybody

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Speaker 8: needs to try to hit home runs. I get that.

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Speaker 8: But if you're seeing your results are your fly balls

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Speaker 8: to left field, which are home runs, is going down

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Speaker 8: and your ground balls to the left side are going up,

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Speaker 8: that means you're not doing it right. You're not choosing

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Speaker 8: the area of the field to hit home runs. To me,

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Speaker 8: Ty Frantz is such a short arm, short swing guy

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Speaker 8: that he's going to hit home runs when he catches

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Speaker 8: it out in front. He drives the ball on a

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Speaker 8: line like on a rope to right field so well

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Speaker 8: that to me, his swing can't dictate his swing decision,

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Speaker 8: can't dictate if he's going to hit a home run

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Speaker 8: or not. It's more of the swing location when he

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Speaker 8: makes contact. I know that's getting into the weeds of

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Speaker 8: like mechanically how it works. But that is such a

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Speaker 8: great thing that he said that people need to be

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Speaker 8: aware ground balls don't ever turn into home runs never.

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Speaker 8: That's a bad swing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that stood out to me was the

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Speaker 3: fangrafts pop for defensive war. It's like, how come only

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Speaker 3: two first basemen are positive? Now, that's not outs above average,

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Speaker 3: it's defensive war and war I think naturally knocks the

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Speaker 3: first baseman down right totally.

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Speaker 8: But also think about think about it. If you told

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Speaker 8: a third baseman or a shortstop they don't ever range

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Speaker 8: to one side. That's how you get negative war. Christian

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Speaker 8: Walker does an amazing job of ranging to the second

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Speaker 8: base side. You have to have pitchers that cover the base,

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Speaker 8: you have to have trust. Most first basemen only go

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Speaker 8: to their left so they play a little bit wider

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Speaker 8: and they only go to their left, so any ball

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Speaker 8: by them they're getting they're getting dinged on those. And

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Speaker 8: that's why, that's why the when guys are like, oh,

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Speaker 8: Pete Alonzo's war is so low, or is defensive war

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Speaker 8: so low, it's like, show me the first baseman that

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Speaker 8: have a positive. Oh, Christian Walker, gold glove, gold glove,

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Speaker 8: gold glove,