Speaker 1: But yeah, I was just like Telly Jack, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why did I reflexively take all of my podcast the equipment?
Speaker 1: And I think it's just this weird thing where usually
Speaker 1: like we're just resilient. We're like, yeah, bro, I'll be
Speaker 1: able to do the show with my mom's or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then I'll be able to move back home.
Speaker 2: That was my biggest priority versus is as huge.
Speaker 1: But even then, I don't even know what I would
Speaker 1: have took, to be honest, Like, in that moment, I
Speaker 1: was like, bro, I just want to get out of
Speaker 1: here with my family.
Speaker 2: Like we got to get the birth certificate. Now we
Speaker 2: get that printed, you can, you gotta passport. So that's
Speaker 2: such a pain in the ass. That's good. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: also in my mind, I'm like, what if the what
Speaker 2: if the fires chase uself this country? Right? You know
Speaker 2: I would I don't know one eye on the door,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, yeah, I always sit with my back
Speaker 2: to the back wall of the restaurant. You know, you
Speaker 2: want to see what's coming. That's what Malcolm xIC always said.
Speaker 2: In the corner bro the exits the goal too, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: my two heroes do Malcolm exus the Malcolms X, Hello
Speaker 2: the Internet, and welcome to season three, seventy four, Episode
Speaker 2: two of Dirtily Hey production of iHeartRadio. This is a
Speaker 2: podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Speaker 2: And it is Tuesday, February fourth, twenty twenty five. Damn
Speaker 2: was that mean? Damn? Oh shit, that's me, That's right,
Speaker 2: it's you.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what National fucking Homemade Soup Day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, little homemade soup one of the easier things to
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Speaker 1: I would, Oh yeah, I made a broccoli soup recently
Speaker 1: because I got a food processor for the first time,
Speaker 1: someone donated a food process to me and I never
Speaker 1: had one.
Speaker 2: And I saw this recipe.
Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsey, he just boiled fucking broccoli and then yeah,
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Speaker 1: I really encourage you all to get into the Crucifers vestvals.
Speaker 2: For many years, I thought soup was just the thing
Speaker 2: that came in. I can like that was many of
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Speaker 2: That one courtesy of LOCRONI on the disc Core Shut Up,
Speaker 2: Lock around Me. I'm thrilled to be joined once again
Speaker 2: by my co host, mister Miles Grass.
Speaker 1: It's the original Climate Refugee all stars back in the building.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm doing out here. They can't hold
Speaker 2: me down. I am back in the valley.
Speaker 1: The Lord of Lancersham is back here, cruising Lancersham. They
Speaker 1: call me the Viceroy a Ventura Boulevard, the Marquis of
Speaker 1: Moore Park. Okay, I am here, I'm back. It's been
Speaker 1: a fucking wild couple of weeks. I think I missed
Speaker 1: a few things.
Speaker 2: Not sure. It's been quiet thought in the news. The
Speaker 2: only thing I've seen is that Luka Dancis came to
Speaker 2: the Lakers trumpet. Did Trump get it? He's he's he's
Speaker 2: he did get it inaugurated at a stylish hat. I
Speaker 2: think the majority, I think that about covers it. I
Speaker 2: don't know. We have a good guess. I wish.
Speaker 1: I wish I was a person who that that's how
Speaker 1: they could sum up the news and then just go
Speaker 1: under their day. It's like, yeah, yeah, I think his
Speaker 1: wife wore a hat, and that's kind of what's going
Speaker 1: on right now.
Speaker 2: And it's like Canadians are mad at us. I guess yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess whatever. Hello, I love the Canadian the Canadian
Speaker 2: crowd at the Raptors game booing the US the fuck
Speaker 2: out of that anthem boom right away, and they did
Speaker 2: a good job. So it was like first note, right when, oh,
Speaker 2: so you knew that it wasn't about the performance, that's
Speaker 2: how you boo. An idea is that you have to
Speaker 2: start booing right right. It kicks in so that because
Speaker 2: you know, I felt bad for the singer to have
Speaker 2: to do this. But then when Oh Canada came through,
Speaker 2: they were tearing their shirts off the ship, throwing their
Speaker 2: flannels in there. That's right, they have multiple other flannels
Speaker 2: on underneath. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined
Speaker 2: in our third seat by one of our favorite guests.
Speaker 2: It's one of the hosts of the incredible podcast five
Speaker 2: to four about all the ways the Supreme Court is
Speaker 2: a complete disaster. She's also a supervising attorney at Texas
Speaker 2: Law has worked as a public defender in Rio Grande City, Texas.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to the show on.
Speaker 3: I think this is my third time on Guess Honor.
Speaker 3: I'm loving it.
Speaker 2: Then, is all ours?
Speaker 1: Let me see that manicure you said you said three
Speaker 1: and I say hold on, let me wow.
Speaker 2: Nail game, solid nail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, we gotta we're keeping it popping in
Speaker 3: Austin in the Trump to presidency to Frescia watching right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I learned that I internalized that.
Speaker 2: Shout out titty boy, two chains to change, titty boy,
Speaker 2: don't want a great rename, Like, truly, renames don't come
Speaker 2: any better than going from titty Boy to two Chains.
Speaker 1: We always yeah, I felt we were talking about that
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year too. We love talking
Speaker 1: about the formerly known as titty Boy FKA titty Boy
Speaker 1: two Chains.
Speaker 2: It was between two Chains and FKA titty Boy. Good
Speaker 2: good call by Chains a rebrand. Sometimes you need a rebrand.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work with you know, New Coke didn't work
Speaker 2: out the Two Chains certainly greater than titty Boy. Brannon did.
Speaker 2: I I don't think I missed anything. Not to put
Speaker 2: too much pressure on yet, but it was mainly Milania
Speaker 2: wore a hat. Luca to the Lakers covers most of it.
Speaker 3: Gosh what else?
Speaker 2: Oh, like Elon Musk had some kind of like arm malfunction, tard.
Speaker 3: Or something like that. Yeah, you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: like like we've been saying, it's a quiet news cycle.
Speaker 2: You know when he did that funny wave. It's times
Speaker 2: like that that. I'm like, man, I wish Leno was
Speaker 2: still on the air. You know, what would that guy
Speaker 2: have said about that?
Speaker 3: He was?
Speaker 2: He said it was just he was because he's autistic.
Speaker 2: So we got some autistic people here to see to
Speaker 2: that out. You're like, whoa Jay? No, j what are
Speaker 2: you doing? No anybody in the audience? No, I mean
Speaker 2: I do kind of wonder what would Leno do with
Speaker 2: He's probably yeah, hurting himself, Miles, he owes the Mob,
Speaker 2: money bro believe in the Illuminati, Black Eye Club. Come on, yeah, now,
Speaker 2: who's naive? Yeah? All right, I'm slipping ran And we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 2: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 2: of things we're talking about today. We're gonna play a
Speaker 2: little game of can he do that? Which just seems
Speaker 2: to keep coming up with Trump and the presidency and
Speaker 2: who Who's going to check him? Would be the other
Speaker 2: the other question in this latest episode of who going
Speaker 2: check me?
Speaker 3: Boom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Stop? That phrase keeps running through my head. Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's saying who gonna check me? Who gonna check me? Boo?
Speaker 2: Who go and check me? Boo? We'll check out with
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court just generally what are they about to
Speaker 2: fuck up? And then we'll just check in a Groundhog
Speaker 2: Day Apparently all time highs when it comes to ground
Speaker 2: Hug Day attendance and oh and I I wish I
Speaker 2: didn't have to say this, but it is part of
Speaker 2: the story. So I'm gonna say the name of this
Speaker 2: town gobblers, nob Pennsylvania. They saw real sized crowds. Wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, When I saw you write that, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is this dude talking about? Why talk about gobblers? Gobblers?
Speaker 2: Not get a fucking hold of yourself, Pennsylvania? What is
Speaker 2: wrong with you? That sounds like, yeah, like a Victorian
Speaker 2: homophobic slur. You gobbler's knob? Wow? What is a gobbler? Even?
Speaker 2: You know? I think we all know. You know, they
Speaker 2: might not have known what they were talking about when
Speaker 2: they named it, but I think we do now. I
Speaker 2: know they talk about it.
Speaker 1: They're talking about a turkey's dick. Yeah, I already know.
Speaker 1: I've got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: But like they had such conversational familiarity with turkey dicks
Speaker 2: that they were like, and this town is the shape
Speaker 2: of a turkey's dick. So that's why we'll call it goblins.
Speaker 2: What a time? All right? All that plenty more, But
Speaker 2: first ran and we like to ask our guest, what
Speaker 2: is something from your search history.
Speaker 3: Let's see, most recently, how can I get my cat
Speaker 3: to be normal, just absolutely begging. I'm out here desperate
Speaker 3: to find out how to get my cat unpossessed by
Speaker 3: the ghost that currently possessed.
Speaker 2: Got a mean girl, it right, be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: why are you so so thirsty? It's like embarrassing. I'm
Speaker 2: so embarrassed for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's absolutely the Regina George of the household.
Speaker 3: You know. So it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard to like step up.
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, wait, so what do you mean like
Speaker 1: your cat was like one way and now it's a
Speaker 1: different way, or your cat's always been this way.
Speaker 2: Now you just hit a wall. You're like, okay, I've.
Speaker 3: Never had a cat and this is my first one
Speaker 3: and she's always been this way. But surely it can't
Speaker 3: be normal. You know, she's an orange cat. I've been
Speaker 3: told that that means something in terms of the weirdness.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were going to be like, and
Speaker 2: that is weird. This cat is orange like the fruit.
Speaker 2: I want to believe this. Let me put the cat
Speaker 2: and camera orange. I'm not dying. I'm not dying the first.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So she's cuckoo bananas and and uh yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: whatever resources I can get my hands on to explain
Speaker 3: how it is that I have that I should be
Speaker 3: in relation to this creature that does live in my house.
Speaker 3: Twenty four to seven. Now, yeah, I'm much appreciated.
Speaker 2: Yes, that gang.
Speaker 1: Please hey, Rhana up because I know we got cat lovers.
Speaker 1: I have somebody in that gang helped correct my cats,
Speaker 1: like bowel issues. They're like what kind of food? They're like, no,
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do that. You need to get
Speaker 1: this kind of food. I went to the vet three
Speaker 1: times and a listener sawved my shit in one exchange
Speaker 1: on a discord DM. So again, that gang, you're always undefeated.
Speaker 2: Are our listeners funded by private equity? Have they been
Speaker 2: taken over by private equity? No they have not. No
Speaker 2: that the veterinary industry been taken over by private equity.
Speaker 2: Yes they have. The fucked yeah. We we used to
Speaker 2: have dogs and like one time we like dog sat
Speaker 2: for some friends and they gave us their special dog
Speaker 2: food to like feed their dog. And when I was
Speaker 2: taking this dog for a walk, the shits that it
Speaker 2: took were sparkling. They were like they like glowed. It
Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck? Like you moan my dogs
Speaker 2: just like trailing some nasty ship behind it, and I
Speaker 2: was like, is that stuck to? What is? What is happening?
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I was. I was fucking up. That's
Speaker 2: how I learned that I needed to switch the dog food.
Speaker 2: That's why I learned that food is important for some reason.
Speaker 3: Like my gut biome isn't even this clean?
Speaker 2: What is exactly? Yeah? Just imactive. I'm like, can I
Speaker 2: do a feld implant with the dogs? If I can
Speaker 2: get that? I'm of that beautiful, beautiful coat. What is?
Speaker 2: What's like? Just give us one weird behavior that makes
Speaker 2: you think your cat is haunted.
Speaker 3: She screams from any room she's in, like alone, She's
Speaker 3: clearly communicating with something, right. Yeah, she climbs the walls
Speaker 3: and when I mean wall, I mean straight claw into
Speaker 3: dry roll. She is like free soloing vertical wall. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when she gets amped on some things so damn yeah.
Speaker 2: Like Billy goating the wall? Right, did you spider cat? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's what's her name? In Faratu? Some of those scenes
Speaker 3: like that's what Petra my orange cat is looking like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lily Rose Death?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think of you? Like?
Speaker 3: Yes, I like to look at it. Thought it was
Speaker 3: like beautifully shot, like the interesting visually. You know, the
Speaker 3: plot is the plot.
Speaker 2: You know, plot is the plot. Plot is the plot,
Speaker 2: and that is how they wrote the screenplay.
Speaker 3: There's a vampire at the beginning, and there's a vampire
Speaker 3: at the end. You know that's yeah, with.
Speaker 2: Some very skinny legs. Yeah, guy's got dang gobblers gobblers bottom.
Speaker 2: Check that out. Pause this real quick. You can't pause
Speaker 2: the movie in the theater, Honey, you got to see
Speaker 2: it again? Was that the only way they caught that?
Speaker 2: Any veterinarians in here that can back up my opinion?
Speaker 2: What is something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Big pants? I want more of them, but wide leg,
Speaker 3: high waist, they're great. I'm so grateful as a millennial
Speaker 3: that the gen Z did transition us from the skinny
Speaker 3: pant era into now big pants. And they're beautiful. They're
Speaker 3: so much more comfortable. I'm wearing them every day. I
Speaker 3: look more and more like a clown and I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I look like I've been wearing wider pants too.
Speaker 1: Just it's funny because so I lost all my shit
Speaker 1: in a fire, and when I went to go stay
Speaker 1: with my mom, she's like, I found some of your
Speaker 1: old jeans that were like the shits I wore in
Speaker 1: like a whole college.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, tell me why I put these on?
Speaker 1: I look like the most fashionable motherfucker of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, because they were baggy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, shoo Miles and put that.
Speaker 1: Oh you you might be gen z but I but
Speaker 1: then I'm fully I'm fully back in because I also
Speaker 1: had trouble just because you know, I got thick legs,
Speaker 1: so skinny jeans and I were never They didn't even
Speaker 1: make skinny jeans that could fit someone with my body type.
Speaker 2: So I was always like off that trend.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad now that collectively, youth cultures like, don't
Speaker 1: out yourself by being looking all old as ship with
Speaker 1: them tight ass jeans exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the youth said we should be able to breathe
Speaker 3: in the pants that.
Speaker 1: We Yeah yeah, I'm like, y'all think y'all know why
Speaker 1: two k you haven't seen the ship my mom keppt
Speaker 1: And I'm about to fucking stunt on all y'all time capsule.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, other generations have done less,
Speaker 2: you know, like that's that's pretty bring bringing back big
Speaker 2: pants I got. I gotta give it to them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: shut out to gen Z, what is something you think
Speaker 2: is overrated?
Speaker 3: Having an iPad not an eye pad? I said, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five is my year on top of organization. My I,
Speaker 3: this iPad is going to change my life, right. I
Speaker 3: really needed that iPad to change my life in January
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and it didn't, so damn it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we all could have used that iPad to
Speaker 2: change your life. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I let a lot of people down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: James carb will tell you do you can't start a
Speaker 1: seven string quarterback in the Super Bowl game hanging all
Speaker 1: your hopes on the iPad.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I.
Speaker 1: Mean, wait, what did you think the iPad exactly would like?
Speaker 1: Because I recently got an iPad, But I had a
Speaker 1: very simple goal. It was like I want to do
Speaker 1: coloring books, and that's what I use it for for
Speaker 1: my own like mental health. But what did you I'm curious, like,
Speaker 1: because everybody imbuse like a sense of like this is
Speaker 1: going to be a game change, right.
Speaker 3: No, I had in my head that I was going
Speaker 3: to be a digital planner. Girly so I did like
Speaker 3: a bunch of shopping and like narrowing down. Okay, this
Speaker 3: is the digital planner that I want, And oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: how am I going to access it all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna have my iPad on me. Everything is.
Speaker 3: I got an Apple pencil. I was like, I'm writing
Speaker 3: on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you jumped in.
Speaker 3: I am putting paper pencil you in right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I really thought, I really thought, just
Speaker 3: everything's going to be. Everything's going to change, productivity, schedule, efficiency,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, and it just it just sits on
Speaker 3: my couch yeah right.
Speaker 1: And it's just like a thing you scroll like social
Speaker 1: media with when you're watching.
Speaker 3: TV sometimes yeah, And most of the time I like
Speaker 3: start to do that and I'm like this is too big.
Speaker 3: I just want to my phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, What like does it do anything that phones
Speaker 2: don't other than, you know, indicate that someone is a
Speaker 2: boomer when they're taking a video with.
Speaker 1: This dude, when you're doing the two handed like I'm
Speaker 1: the video using a phone book to take a picture.
Speaker 2: Damn, this staarage is broke.
Speaker 3: God, Miles is really in a struggle.
Speaker 2: Sorry, somebody donated a chair to me an office chair.
Speaker 1: The fucking lumbar supports blew out off the back anyway,
Speaker 1: use my struggles and got my bar that can you
Speaker 1: know they support and your lumbar supports.
Speaker 2: Back in the obrection, they didn't know about this lumbar
Speaker 2: but yeah, well. Oh.
Speaker 1: The thing with the iPad though, is like Apple's just
Speaker 1: in this weird place where before it made like the
Speaker 1: iPad kind of made sense in their range of products,
Speaker 1: but now they do this. You We're like, let's go
Speaker 1: the M two processor like like personal computer level processing ability,
Speaker 1: but they hamstring it by not letting you run mac
Speaker 1: os on it because then they're like, well then mother
Speaker 1: Focus is not going buy MacBooks. So we got to
Speaker 1: keep this in this weird liminal space where it's like,
Speaker 1: not it's a phone kind of it is mostly a
Speaker 1: big ass phone because it's using iOS. That's just from
Speaker 1: my own like diving into iPad culture. I was like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: like if you have a specific need, it works.
Speaker 2: Otherwise sometimes I got m Yeah, just himself. Yeah, fucking
Speaker 2: that guy. Every time he's back, you know, he's back
Speaker 2: already working with Trump. Oh yeah, they all they love
Speaker 2: it right in the line, they're not on the same
Speaker 2: planet as USA is.
Speaker 3: Tim Cook is Tim Cooking in a in a baggy
Speaker 3: black T shirt and a gold chain. The way is
Speaker 3: not yet.
Speaker 1: But with that ridiculous see that crazy ass watch he
Speaker 1: had on that people class that they're bid.
Speaker 2: Isn't like his video where he's like, I'm just like you, guys,
Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand dollars watch on the risk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's based off the Godfather or some ship.
Speaker 2: That watch. I think you weren't on Rogan. It was
Speaker 2: like another watch that has a hand in it that
Speaker 2: move whatever.
Speaker 3: They literally biological human.
Speaker 2: Family and they're turning exactly exactly. He's not fooling us
Speaker 2: with his midlife crisis. Chain real is using dark magic
Speaker 2: to entrap somebody's soul in hand so it operates your thing.
Speaker 3: I'm just like you and I want to say homophobic
Speaker 3: slurs at work also like that was that was the
Speaker 3: whole We've got a message.
Speaker 2: We've got to Facebook has been far too feminine for
Speaker 2: too long. Exactly. You know that there is a meeting
Speaker 2: that has happened. I don't know if Tim Cook was
Speaker 2: in it, but it's happened where people were like, how
Speaker 2: do we pivot Tim to be more relatable, like jealous
Speaker 2: of the Zuckerberg pivot. Oh you like in his own camp? Yeah,
Speaker 2: in his own camp, Like, how do we make Tim?
Speaker 2: How do we do that? How do we get Tim?
Speaker 3: We got to get the sphere.
Speaker 2: Perm Watch what if he did like he painted like
Speaker 2: one fingernail. Yeah, so he's a little bit wavy, you.
Speaker 3: Know, cartilage piercing, you know the upper ear.
Speaker 1: You know, so many people his age though, now just
Speaker 1: rock the one pierced ear. I was at like a
Speaker 1: very like older crowd LA. I was at a full disclosure.
Speaker 1: I was at the Smokehouse in Burbank. It's like a
Speaker 1: very la restaurant where the food is not good, but
Speaker 1: they have really good garlic bread and there's only three
Speaker 1: things on the menu that are worth eating.
Speaker 2: Anything else is an instant l But you really go
Speaker 2: there for you nobody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the prime rib or the salmon or
Speaker 1: just get that garlic bread and the shrimp cocktail. Don't
Speaker 1: get any I know there's other shit that looks up
Speaker 1: you know me, you do not get shit as garbage.
Speaker 1: But they have a bar where like this old timey
Speaker 1: dude does rock songs and shit and the crowd there
Speaker 1: is very much like Boomer elder gen X almost I'm
Speaker 1: not joking. Seventy percent of these dudes had like one
Speaker 1: earring in and it was just wild to see him, Like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is how y'all stunt like in your in your
Speaker 1: latter days is like one ear He's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. So you know, I
Speaker 2: think Trump's kind of fucked up too. Check it hearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like I used to rock this in the
Speaker 1: eighties and they said it was kind of weird.
Speaker 2: But now I don't give a shit. Now look at me.
Speaker 2: I'm retired. Well that sounds cool. Yeah, yeah, I've never
Speaker 2: totally understood the iPad. It is a thing that kids
Speaker 2: seem to gravitate towards. But yeah, it just seems like
Speaker 2: a big phone to me. So it's like, if I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to actively keep people off of a phone,
Speaker 2: I don't totally understand that.
Speaker 1: Like if you're an illustrator or whatever, I see that
Speaker 1: if you have like very purpose specific like it has
Speaker 1: its uses, but I think sure, now it's just like
Speaker 1: in this place, like it's so powerful it can be
Speaker 1: a computer, but Apple won't allow it to be a computer.
Speaker 1: So it's that's where your kind of value assessment begins
Speaker 1: to womb.
Speaker 2: And we hate a wobbly value assessment. Here on the yah,
Speaker 2: We've always nothing.
Speaker 1: Look, people thought I changed, but I didn't, y'all. I'm
Speaker 1: still here criticizing wobbly value assessments.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 2: we're back. We're back. Hey, Hey. It feels like the
Speaker 2: Trump administration has created this rhythm where he does a
Speaker 2: thing everyone's like, that's essentially against the law. What he
Speaker 2: just did, Okay, and then yeah, so and then people
Speaker 2: keep like ask can he do that? Before we get
Speaker 2: an answer, he does the next thing that's against the
Speaker 2: law that we weren't ready for him to do yet, right,
Speaker 2: So I think the answer ends up being no, he
Speaker 2: can't do that, at least as of right now in
Speaker 2: a bunch of these cases. But I feel like we're
Speaker 2: moving on too quickly, and so he's like getting these
Speaker 2: like wins for him, like getting to like flex and
Speaker 2: act like he's doing things that like doing whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: But then it like the media isn't sticking around to
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, that actually got overturned and that actually
Speaker 2: is not legal in the federal judge said that like
Speaker 2: gave the speech from Happy Gilmore where he's like, you
Speaker 2: no points God your soul, Like, this is a This
Speaker 2: is a quote from a Ronald Reagan appointee temporarily blocking
Speaker 2: his order to end birthrate citizenship. This is a blatantly
Speaker 2: unconstitutional order. I have difficulty understanding how a member of
Speaker 2: the bar would state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order.
Speaker 2: It just boggles my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's referencing the Trump lawyers, like the lawyers saying this,
Speaker 3: Like how could you be a licensed attorney and say
Speaker 3: this shit with a straight face?
Speaker 2: Uh? I think at the end of this like chain
Speaker 2: of cause and effect that is being started by these
Speaker 2: things that it does come down to like who gone
Speaker 2: check me boo? Who? Like, who's gonna stop him? And
Speaker 2: who's gonna check me v boo? And the answer is
Speaker 2: that I hear Ali, Like, Oh, the Supreme Court is
Speaker 2: eventually going to have to weigh in on this one. Probably.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of this podcast five to four,
Speaker 2: and it is, in addition to being educational and wildly
Speaker 2: entertaining make me laugh, has given me a severe lack
Speaker 2: of faith in the Supreme Court to do the right thing.
Speaker 2: So Rihann I just want to get your sense, as
Speaker 2: one of the hosts of that show, like how are
Speaker 2: you feeling as you were as you're witnessing these this
Speaker 2: first week and a half of attempted authoritarianism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry to throw like cold water on the
Speaker 3: whole idea that like the Supreme Court is the check,
Speaker 3: you know. And I think it's like if you if
Speaker 3: you think that, if you hear that, or we hear
Speaker 3: it so much that like you're not wrong to like
Speaker 3: think that because people say, like, you know, only the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court now can stand up to Trump, or you know,
Speaker 3: the Supreme courts can have a really interesting role under
Speaker 3: the creeping authoritarianism administration, you know. But like that's because
Speaker 3: like just like structurally, like the three branches of government,
Speaker 3: like the Supreme Court, like, yeah, it really doesn't do
Speaker 3: anything other than check the other branches. Like that is
Speaker 3: what the Supreme Court does. But so like structurally, you
Speaker 3: get why people like think that. At the same time,
Speaker 3: at the same time, y'all, we have to we have
Speaker 3: to be looking at the conservative project, the project of
Speaker 3: doing authoritarianism in the United States as the branch is
Speaker 3: working together to do that. And that includes the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Supreme Court while they could check Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: you know, granted him almost total immunity in office last
Speaker 3: term before he before he got elected. So yeah, we
Speaker 3: need to see and and with all of these cases
Speaker 3: that are about to be in front of the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: You know, while there might be some tiki tak here
Speaker 3: and there where the Court says like, ah, that's a
Speaker 3: little bit too far out there in terms of the
Speaker 3: constitutional order, we have to have to have to view
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court as an institution that is in place
Speaker 3: right now and operating right now, as a green light
Speaker 3: for authoritarianism, not a check on authoritarianism, right.
Speaker 2: It kind of has been for a while. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: the first ones there, it just seems it seems weird
Speaker 2: to me that the first ones to get there to
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, this guy can do whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: he wants. Also, no more abortions, thanks, that's been our time.
Speaker 2: Are the ones that people are like, well, the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court's not gonna app surely this, surely this will be
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well that god, I mean it's I was hoping,
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't really checked the news in the
Speaker 1: last three weeks.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, they're gonna they'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: They'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: But then you have to zoom out and be like, Okay, so, yes,
Speaker 1: the Federalist Society has they've been taking their time saying,
Speaker 1: let's get our starters in there. You know, we got
Speaker 1: we got to revamp this whole roster, baby, if we
Speaker 1: want to start winning titles. And they've they've got they've
Speaker 1: got the pieces now to do that. And I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's just like even the last four years,
Speaker 1: where they'll be the things where they clearly come down
Speaker 1: on the side of the conservative movement, and then you
Speaker 1: get these occasional scraps that they throw out to make
Speaker 1: them seem they're like, we're not a completely politicized body.
Speaker 2: I mean we just did the.
Speaker 3: Bare minimum back right, right, And yeah, I think like people,
Speaker 3: I think it's like a real failure of legal media.
Speaker 3: Actually that for decades has has been like when when media,
Speaker 3: when you hear about these cases being decided, you hear
Speaker 3: about them like on just the legal terms, or you
Speaker 3: just hear or read about like Okay, well this is
Speaker 3: why the fucking freak ghoul Sam Alito said what he said,
Speaker 3: and this was the justification, and then there's never anything
Speaker 3: else that's like, oh, this is part of like a
Speaker 3: much big, bigger project. They've been doing this for a
Speaker 3: long time. Here's all the people who are going to
Speaker 3: be hurt by this, and here are all of the
Speaker 3: other here are all of the other like arguments or
Speaker 3: reasons why this is wrong. So yeah, I think like
Speaker 3: media in general and how we cover and talk about
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court is like a big reason for this.
Speaker 3: But I'm here to tell you, and we on five
Speaker 3: four say it all the time. You know, it's it's
Speaker 3: really important to understand these six hyper conservative freakazoids. It's
Speaker 3: really important to understand that they act like politicians. They
Speaker 3: are doing politics right, right, they are doing fascism right
Speaker 3: when they overturn Roe v. Wade when they say in
Speaker 3: three h three creative that you know, a woman doesn't
Speaker 3: have to make a wedding website for a gay couple, right, She.
Speaker 2: Doesn't even have to have a web design business to.
Speaker 3: Do it, or an actual gay couple that asked her
Speaker 3: to do to do the wedding website, right.
Speaker 2: Football coach who exactly.
Speaker 3: Exactly, So you have to see this institution as an
Speaker 3: institution that is also doing implementing fascism and authoritarianism, and
Speaker 3: that's what they're there to do, and they're happy to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: You think, Leonard Leo, he's just kicking back. He's like, bro,
Speaker 2: they don't. Ain't nobody saying my biggest.
Speaker 3: Gatherer of the past twenty five years.
Speaker 2: They are winning. We do have to I feel like
Speaker 2: we got to admit, like, yeah, I feel like a
Speaker 2: big part of the media response to Trump and the
Speaker 2: authoritarian project of you know, the Supreme Court has been
Speaker 2: like they'll never get away with this, and like kind
Speaker 2: of like, look, how stupid they are to think that
Speaker 2: they can get away with this right before they like
Speaker 2: get away with it, you know, like that that response
Speaker 2: to be like this guy doesn't know what he's doing
Speaker 2: just feels like ultimately it doesn't matter. Even if he
Speaker 2: doesn't know what he's doing, it's working for him and them,
Speaker 2: and yes, they just keep winning because because the opponent
Speaker 2: doesn't realize they're playing like they I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know what to even say.
Speaker 3: Like they're they're being bold, right, like the right wing
Speaker 3: is being bold. Trump administration all these crazy, crazy executive orders.
Speaker 3: They're being bold and they're not checking themselves thinking, mm,
Speaker 3: is this illegal? I don't know they're doing it. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, throw throw the spaghetti at the wall and
Speaker 3: see what sticks, right, And and so the Supreme Court
Speaker 3: to the extent that like, yeah, it checks them. We're
Speaker 3: we're so far like the overtam window is so so right, right,
Speaker 3: is so so conservative that yeah, if you're getting some
Speaker 3: kind of check on this stuff, well yeah, it's the
Speaker 3: it's tiny stuff compared to the in totality, how like
Speaker 3: our government is being transformed, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like we're just
Speaker 1: like in the Like I was saying this on yesterday's show,
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of a lot of us are
Speaker 1: just sort of in denial that this actually like forget
Speaker 1: that country you grew up in twenty years ago, Like that.
Speaker 2: Shit is that shit that that order, that old order
Speaker 2: completely gone, completely gone.
Speaker 1: And that is not coming back for I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's going to come back in our lifetime. Even so,
Speaker 1: it's much much more empowering to understand the assignment and
Speaker 1: say no, this is this is what's happening right now, and.
Speaker 2: Where where's my part in all of this.
Speaker 1: And I say, you got to be out there in
Speaker 1: the street and shit like that, like doing all kinds
Speaker 1: of wild shit, but understanding that this is something more
Speaker 1: people need to put their attention on, because they are
Speaker 1: they are fucking at the wheel and they are we were,
Speaker 1: We've already gone through a few walls, and we're about
Speaker 1: to keep hitting more walls this week though there's even
Speaker 1: more stuff that the Supreme more.
Speaker 2: Business in front of the week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was, and I obviously wanted to get
Speaker 1: your take on this because one of them is very
Speaker 1: obvious to me how problematic it is and awful and backwards,
Speaker 1: and then the other two I'm like, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a little nuance that you can probably we help
Speaker 1: flesh out.
Speaker 3: For us in religious freedom stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: So the first one is regarding government funding of Catholic
Speaker 1: charter schools before they could get vouchers, which was only
Speaker 1: doing like a little bit of pain a little bit
Speaker 1: of funding. Now we're talking about full blown. The feds
Speaker 1: are now paying for.
Speaker 2: Full blown Jesus schools.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that feels like that feels that
Speaker 1: feels like it's butting up against the First Amendment and
Speaker 1: what I know about religion and the federal government, so
Speaker 1: that one seems pretty obvious that that could open the
Speaker 1: floodgates of all kinds of backwards teaching and weird schools
Speaker 1: suddenly getting the funding to teach whatever they want to.
Speaker 2: Another one feels is they like getting in under Catholic
Speaker 2: because like people are like, I've heard of Catholic schools.
Speaker 2: Those can't be so bad. Like, so we'll allow they're weird.
Speaker 2: They are weird, but they have a long history. I
Speaker 2: just feel like, as opposed to if it was like
Speaker 2: my mom's special version of Christianity that she invented, right schools,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I wonder why they went
Speaker 2: Catholic just to I think, look, I think they just knew.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's more just about being like, yeah, well, whatever y'all do,
Speaker 1: you'll do in Jesus teachings, here's some money teach on.
Speaker 1: Another one deals with parents being able to opt out
Speaker 1: of curriculum where they're being like, well, if if they
Speaker 1: have LGBTQ plus characters or concepts, I do not want
Speaker 1: my I want my child to be as ignorant as
Speaker 1: possible and to be made fun of infinitely in their adulthood,
Speaker 1: So I would like them to I would like to
Speaker 1: hide reality from them as much as possible. That one,
Speaker 1: it seems like basically I don't know, probably, can you
Speaker 1: kind of walk us through. It feels like probably at
Speaker 1: that point we're completely upending where the power dynamic is
Speaker 1: and how children are taught to just be like, well,
Speaker 1: if enough parents want to opt out, then you might
Speaker 1: have to change the whole curriculum, or maybe you don't
Speaker 1: send kids to that school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, these are both pretty crazy cases. Crazy again, like
Speaker 3: this goes back to exactly what I was just saying,
Speaker 3: where the Overton window has shipped. It's so far right.
Speaker 3: These are pretty out there in terms of like conservative arguments,
Speaker 3: like the lower courts and precedent over decades, is pretty
Speaker 3: clear that both of these cases, like the state directly
Speaker 3: funding religious schools, that's like unheard of, right, and then
Speaker 3: the same thing was like opting out of public school curriculum.
Speaker 3: Both of these cases obviously come under their First Amendment,
Speaker 3: like freedom of religion. I just want to like, I
Speaker 3: just want to differentiate between the two, So the government
Speaker 3: funding public schools, that would be under what's called the
Speaker 3: establishment clause of the First Amendment that says, like, the
Speaker 3: state can't make a law that respects a certain establishment
Speaker 3: of religion. Right, that's the separation of church and state.
Speaker 3: That is the clause in the First Amendment. The second one,
Speaker 3: where parents are trying to have their kids opt out
Speaker 3: of mandatory curriculum in public schools, that's the free exercise clause. Right,
Speaker 3: the government can't infringe on your individual free exercise of
Speaker 3: your faith. Parents are saying, well, when my kids have
Speaker 3: to go to story time in the library at the
Speaker 3: public school, and story time features a book they're getting
Speaker 3: read a book about being trans child, right, about about
Speaker 3: a mom making a rainbow wig for her trans child
Speaker 3: or for a kid walking around pride, Well, that that
Speaker 3: infringes on the free exercise of my religion. Like you said, Miles,
Speaker 3: like both of these cases are really really crazy. The justices,
Speaker 3: you know, coming down in the way that the conservatives
Speaker 3: want them to really upends like a lot of how
Speaker 3: we think of the First Amendment, like working right, and
Speaker 3: I think in terms of like choosing like, oh, which
Speaker 3: one would be more impactful than the other. I think
Speaker 3: it's really important to like see again all of these cases.
Speaker 3: You know, there's also, uh, there's also a case about
Speaker 3: like tax exemptions for religious organizations that's coming up at
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. Look at them all as part of
Speaker 3: the project, right, just like the executive orders, right, Trump
Speaker 3: is doing that, He's doing it at a different pace, right,
Speaker 3: which there's a different strategy behind. But you see in
Speaker 3: the totality of the executive orders a fascist project, an
Speaker 3: authoritarian project. We should be viewing Supreme Court cases in
Speaker 3: the same way, particularly because the Supreme Court decides what
Speaker 3: cases it takes, decides what cases that they have total
Speaker 3: control over, the cases that are going to be argued
Speaker 3: in front of them, and what they want to be
Speaker 3: deciding and changing the law on every single term. Right,
Speaker 3: So in the totality of these cases, the First Amendment
Speaker 3: and the freedom of religion, separation of Church and State
Speaker 3: cases at the Supreme Court, this term, you see, you
Speaker 3: see a project, and you see what the right is
Speaker 3: focused on.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You see what they're going to be trying to weaponize
Speaker 3: in the law in you know, the next couple of dedays,
Speaker 3: GIDS and here it's going to be the First Amendment. Here,
Speaker 3: it's going to be saying, you know, gay people, existing
Speaker 3: stories being told, queer people being around me, or books
Speaker 3: that my children read that include queer characters, that's actually
Speaker 3: an infringement on my civil liberties. Right. That is, that
Speaker 3: is fascistic. Right. That is that all of this is
Speaker 3: about creating in and out groups a scary other right
Speaker 3: that we can all put our problems on and our
Speaker 3: violence on. And so again, you see the Supreme Court
Speaker 3: doing this work for a fascist movement in the same
Speaker 3: way that we can like clearly see that Trump as
Speaker 3: an individual is doing that work as well. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel really I feel like it's so doomsday. I'm
Speaker 3: really sorry you guys, but we got to be clear sighted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta be Yeah, we gotta keep our eyes
Speaker 2: open and like understand what is happening, because especially now
Speaker 2: that I just I feel like the the mainstream response
Speaker 2: is really having a hard time like getting its mind
Speaker 2: around what is happening and like seeing it for what
Speaker 2: it is. Like, Yeah, it really feels like there is
Speaker 2: this big fascist project. Like it's interesting because I feel
Speaker 2: like my understanding of fascism historically was they had big
Speaker 2: a lot of bureaucracy and like you know, they trains
Speaker 2: ran on time. Thing was like a big bragging point
Speaker 2: this yeah, and this time it seems to be like
Speaker 2: they're just breaking everything and then use it. When the
Speaker 2: thing breaks, they're like, oh, that's because people were too
Speaker 2: nice to gay people and black people, and so like
Speaker 2: it's got like kind of a new look fascism where
Speaker 2: like they're incompetence and they're tearing down of everything allows
Speaker 2: for them to like make an argument for the continued
Speaker 2: privatization of every everything and like the takeover by monopolies
Speaker 2: and oligarchs and exactly. Yeah, yeah, but the but why
Speaker 2: is the media? Like it just it feels like the
Speaker 2: media was operating under these very specific sets of rules
Speaker 2: of like well, we can't call this out because then
Speaker 2: it's too seems like we're being too biased or something,
Speaker 2: and so they just they learned whatever the media's like
Speaker 2: playbook is of like what they will tolerate, what they won't,
Speaker 2: and just like yeah, now they know exactly how to
Speaker 2: work inside this system. And yeah, the media like doesn't
Speaker 2: know how to just be like this is what's happening.
Speaker 2: This is clearly what's happening. They're successfully dismantling civilization like
Speaker 2: as we knew it. And yeah, because I guess because
Speaker 2: the media has been pretty complicit in that for so
Speaker 2: long in other ways that like that they're not willing
Speaker 2: to call it out now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think there's like a few things
Speaker 3: in the media question, But I do you think, like
Speaker 3: the media question is such a massive, such a massive
Speaker 3: like contributing factor to to the problems is that, like
Speaker 3: there's so much misinformation. There's also too much information and
Speaker 3: the media is approaching I think both of those categories
Speaker 3: in both like dropping the ball in fucked up ways
Speaker 3: in terms of too much information. For example, the media, Yes,
Speaker 3: like journalists have a role in interpreting and explaining every
Speaker 3: executive order to us, right, Like I appreciate the people
Speaker 3: who are doing that, but again, what we fail to
Speaker 3: do when we're like, okay, let's break down every executive
Speaker 3: order is we're missing the forest for the trees and
Speaker 3: we and we don't see that like bigger project, right yea,
Speaker 3: and we end up getting we end up all of
Speaker 3: us feeling siloed in like what you do because it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: well that's a lot. And then the way you fight
Speaker 3: that is a legal case, and that's a you know,
Speaker 3: that's a policy at the EPA or whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: And so the folks there are going to fight it
Speaker 3: this way. And then but when we see it as
Speaker 3: a project, we really like, you know, you start to see, uh,
Speaker 3: you start to see your role, even as somebody who
Speaker 3: you know might be disconnected, you start to see a
Speaker 3: role for collective power. The media is captured, a captured
Speaker 3: institution in the same way the Supreme Court is. I
Speaker 3: think that's a really big problem. Right, So when we're
Speaker 3: talking about you said oligarchy, I think that's really right.
Speaker 3: We live now in an oligarchy that Trump is making
Speaker 3: like very clear to everybody, Like we know who the
Speaker 3: oligarchs are, right, Like, they're right in front of us
Speaker 3: doing Nazi salutes and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I don't know wherred to, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and it's those oligarchs that like control
Speaker 3: the media, right like they're you know, Jeff Bezos is
Speaker 3: putting his thumb down on the scale at the on
Speaker 3: the Washington Post editorial board, right. Uh, this is happening.
Speaker 3: This is happening everywhere, especially across like corporate legacy media.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, what you get is the conflicts of interest.
Speaker 3: What you get is really muddied political analysis. You know,
Speaker 3: writers and journalists like going to the top, who who
Speaker 3: haven't they're being rewarded for not right talking in critical
Speaker 3: ways about about what's happening and so yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: from our corner of things over on five to four,
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about how legal media specifically has
Speaker 3: really failed the public for for a really long time.
Speaker 3: And a lot of that is based on, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: advancing in your job and relationships, right. A lot of
Speaker 3: the top like legal Supreme court reporters, they have relationships.
Speaker 3: They like to be able to uh talk directly to
Speaker 3: the justices, right, and so if you put in your
Speaker 3: column that that so and so justice is, uh you know,
Speaker 3: is receiving gifts from billionaires who have cases in front
Speaker 3: of him at that time, well you lose your access.
Speaker 3: You don't have your wine.
Speaker 4: Buddy, Oh why didn't you go work for pro public? Gout?
Speaker 4: We're here to do fluff pieces. Okay, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: That the decorations though it Alito's home.
Speaker 2: Wonderful, wonderful. I mean, we've all thought about what we
Speaker 2: would do if we were burdened by that much wealth.
Speaker 2: Obviously you buy historical stuff. And yes, sometimes fascists owned it. Okay,
Speaker 2: yeahka solicitly Nazi.
Speaker 3: It's historical. Can't you see.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just this. This flags about an appeal to heaven. Okay,
Speaker 2: take what? Just take that.
Speaker 1: What's so wrong with having an appeal to heaven? Don't
Speaker 1: add your other stuff to it? Just saying anyway, you're right.
Speaker 2: And my heaven is the one from My Blue Heaven
Speaker 2: with Steve Barton and Rick Miranda, So do try your
Speaker 2: head out of the gutter. Huh. Cool, All right, let's
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We will be right back
Speaker 2: to talk about gobblers not and we're back. We're back,
Speaker 2: and let's look at let's look at some stupid bullshit
Speaker 2: news shallow whoa, Just take a this is pretty it
Speaker 2: is pretty consequential. That's maybe the stuff that shocked about
Speaker 2: in the last act. Maybe you can characterize that stuff.
Speaker 2: But this is this magic. Zoom out to see the
Speaker 2: larger project. Please please, They're controlling the fucking weather, jack,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you don't you know that the
Speaker 2: fucking groundhogs control the weather. Okay, yeah, I knew, I
Speaker 2: knew things had changed from some of the articles you
Speaker 2: were forordering me when you were out, But I didn't
Speaker 2: know about the punks of Tawny Phil et Bock Times. Dude,
Speaker 2: some real interesting stuff in there. Yeah. So over the weekend,
Speaker 2: the Sunday was ground hugg Day. Groundhogs is a groundhog
Speaker 2: or groundhog hog?
Speaker 3: Does it belong to the groundhog? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it should. I think we should give
Speaker 2: it back if it doesn't. Thank you. The big hero
Speaker 2: punks a Tawny Phil that he is like kind of
Speaker 2: the ball drop of groundhog Day. You know, he's like
Speaker 2: the the central symbol icon of groundhog Day. We all
Speaker 2: know it from the Bill Murray movie predicted unfortunately, there
Speaker 2: will be six more weeks of winter. And our writer
Speaker 2: JM did the hard work of actually watching the ceremony
Speaker 2: and it is weird as fuck. I was then sucked
Speaker 2: into watching it as well. Apparently his decision what's that?
Speaker 2: I said? How weird is it? So his decision is
Speaker 2: communicated in groundhog language to the Groundhog Club's president, who
Speaker 2: can translate thanks to his presidential cane. So there's like
Speaker 2: a magical cane. There's the groundhog is talking to him
Speaker 2: like he picks a screen role. That is like written
Speaker 2: the way like in a like limerick. One scroll says
Speaker 2: early spring, the other scroll said six more weeks of winter, right, yes,
Speaker 2: and it's it's also also this group is known as
Speaker 2: the Inner Circle. I was just reading that from the
Speaker 2: Wikipedia page. They dress like barrens of industry from the
Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Like still this is the actually, yeah, this is like
Speaker 1: the darkest shit I've ever seen now that I look
Speaker 1: at it, Like this, Mike and they and it's also
Speaker 1: like that fake, like cold type shit. We're like, honestly,
Speaker 1: we're the only ones that can communicate with the groundhop. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you don't have to believe what we say.
Speaker 3: There's just one channel, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, it was like a record sized crowd at
Speaker 2: Gobblers not in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Were lifting him. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, they go into a hutch that's like
Speaker 2: carved to the side of a tree trunk, and apparently
Speaker 2: the ground hug is like get the fuck away for me,
Speaker 2: because it takes them like five minutes to get a
Speaker 2: hold of the ground hug. They're just in there like
Speaker 2: they're like come on, phrantically reaching around, come on, fuck
Speaker 2: all right, he holds it up the ground Hug is
Speaker 2: fucking terrified, scratching his face. Yeah, and then yeah the
Speaker 2: ground Hug whispers in his ear which scroll to pick
Speaker 2: and I'm just a little concerned for the first time
Speaker 2: during the course of doing this job. Now, okay, guys,
Speaker 2: this is the this concerns me that we're seeing in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five record sized crowds for this event.
Speaker 2: I just to everyone to see the rat fortune teller?
Speaker 2: Do we see the rat fortune teller? Just feels like,
Speaker 2: obviously we're seeing things slide backwards everywhere else, But like,
Speaker 2: is it that bad that our national shared consciousness is
Speaker 2: like tell us rat, tell us what what have to
Speaker 2: tell us? Please?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I can see like half of it
Speaker 1: being like oh and the other part being like me,
Speaker 1: if you're like man, the only ship that's real anymore
Speaker 1: is going out to Gobbler's Knob with the homies, just
Speaker 1: being with the homies, yeah, and yelling at a rat
Speaker 1: for community.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean children crave ad. This is something
Speaker 2: that I did, determined that my children crave communes over
Speaker 2: because like we did a like a cub scout camping
Speaker 2: trip that ended up like being too cold to camp,
Speaker 2: so we just like stayed in a house with a
Speaker 2: bunch of other families, and like my kids like still
Speaker 2: talk about just like played board games. My kids are
Speaker 2: still like, man, that was fucking awesome. I'm like, that
Speaker 2: was just a commune. We were just lived in a
Speaker 2: commune for a night. Yeah. Yeah, But I've been reading
Speaker 2: about these dad, Let's start one. Let's start one. They
Speaker 2: got some interesting ideas. They do a lot of interesting ideas.
Speaker 2: Catholic arder schools, here we come. But yeah, I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2: I think there's obviously the need for community that is
Speaker 2: being ripped out in all these other places of our lives.
Speaker 2: But also I do just wonder, like, is our desire
Speaker 2: to believe in magic just go following our institutions slide
Speaker 2: backward into the Middle Ages? Or is our belief in
Speaker 2: magic making it possible for our institutions to slide backward?
Speaker 3: A little chicken the egg. Yeah, there's I think. I
Speaker 3: think Porque Nolo's does.
Speaker 2: You know I think things.
Speaker 3: I think these things are in block step with one another,
Speaker 3: for sure. I also think, you know, you see this
Speaker 3: like across social media. For sure, there's a little bit
Speaker 3: of like, you know that the the yearning for nostalgia,
Speaker 3: you know, like like, let's do something that I used
Speaker 3: to do and think about when I was eight years old,
Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, I think there's lins like oh,
Speaker 3: look at that weird rodent. You know, when I was eight,
Speaker 3: I really thought about if this rat could see its shadow?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was when I was eight, I had
Speaker 1: no idea what creeping fascism was.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: That's that I have student loans either, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That was actually a good time. Where were
Speaker 1: you in ninety two.
Speaker 3: Exactly? So yeah, people are yearning a little bit for
Speaker 3: for the magic. I think the magic of the fuzzy rat.
Speaker 2: Believe it. Yeah, it's little. I mean it has like
Speaker 2: Santa Claus where it's like, yeah, he whispered in my ear.
Speaker 3: Yeah too fairy yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a guy in the crowd who you can
Speaker 2: hear scream we want spring.
Speaker 3: Only avenue where he can where he can express ye desires.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, men will go to punk satany phil ceremony instead
Speaker 3: of therapy. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will say and will y'all scream things like
Speaker 1: we want spring rather than I want to forgive my father?
Speaker 2: Right? You know, it's a little bit more complex, but
Speaker 2: we'll start there. Yeah, we want spring.
Speaker 1: Huh, what's your dad's name, guys, anybody, it's not related,
Speaker 1: but coincidentally, my dad's name is also Phil.
Speaker 2: And then ber send the tears, yes, okaya, tell tell Phil,
Speaker 2: tell them in groundhoggies right now? Okay, Well, Ran, And
Speaker 2: it's been such a pleasure having you as always on
Speaker 2: the daily geist where some people Where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Follow you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on social media at au Rhannon that's a
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Speaker 3: like the numbers, but but spelled out and you can
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Speaker 3: more thing I got a promo is that I'm on
Speaker 3: a new podcast about Palestine, about the struggle for Palestinian
Speaker 3: liberation from here in the far diaspora that is called
Speaker 3: Popular Cradle.
Speaker 2: You can uh.
Speaker 3: Follow us on Instagram and start listening YouTube wherever you
Speaker 3: listen to podcasts. Popular Cradle amazing.
Speaker 2: Go check it out. And is there a work of
Speaker 2: media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: You know, I was never big on TikTok until uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the controversy, and so now I've been scrolling
Speaker 3: TikTok and yesterday came across a video of goats in
Speaker 3: like you know Central East Asia, I mean Central Asia,
Speaker 3: like a like a you know Himalayas, These like real
Speaker 3: winter guys, these real snow mountain guys. But it's they
Speaker 3: not like us. In the background, it's just the goats
Speaker 3: like jumping around bom boom boom bob bab type of shit.
Speaker 3: I'm on, you wouldn't understand, Like it's so good.
Speaker 2: It's it's so so good, understand.
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry for the intensity y'all all your listeners
Speaker 3: right well, sorry if you live in a time of fascism,
Speaker 3: but goats, you know boats, goats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Amazing. Miles Where can people find you
Speaker 2: as their working media you've been enjoying. I'm still on
Speaker 2: social look, I haven't been checking because I have a
Speaker 2: bit on my plate outside of this, so I'm not
Speaker 2: quite checking the mentions yet, but I will be soon enough.
Speaker 2: But shout out to everybody that's reached out. Find me
Speaker 2: at Miles of Gray wherever they serve at symbols, you
Speaker 2: can also find jacking on the basketball podcast Miles of
Speaker 2: jackob at BOOSTI, and very soon for twenty Day Fiance
Speaker 2: will be back where I talk about ninety Day Fiance.
Speaker 2: I just as again, I just gotta gotta I gotta
Speaker 2: tick a few boxes in the old personal life before
Speaker 2: I'm able to fully fully get back to, you know,
Speaker 2: doing this podcasting thing at full speed.
Speaker 1: I don't, incidentally, I don't have a work of social
Speaker 1: media that I've been enjoying. I did watch the second
Speaker 1: season of The Diplomat, which was wild.
Speaker 2: This is so fun.
Speaker 1: This is a show like hermssion I watching right before
Speaker 1: the house burned down, and then like we kind of
Speaker 1: like we were like putting on TV like log in
Speaker 1: and Netflix, like you want to continue watching this? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's so weird. How like the cloud is like,
Speaker 1: well wait, we cannot be destroyed. You want to pick
Speaker 1: up on episode four of The Diplomat just a very
Speaker 1: low friend people like to show.
Speaker 2: I like this season not great. I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: The steaks are very all over the place, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: full this is way too convenient lazy writing anyway, Uh
Speaker 1: find that that's it?
Speaker 2: Yea, like a disorganized steakhouse. The stakes are way too
Speaker 2: all over the place. Yeah, you know what I mean. Thanks, Anyways,
Speaker 2: like it would be a steakhouse on a on a
Speaker 2: cruise ship and there we go, turbulent waters. All right,
Speaker 2: let's get into a place where it's worth saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: you sai to clean that up. Type of media I've
Speaker 2: been enjoying. Uh, you wouldn't understand there it is. Type
Speaker 2: of media or the media I've been enjoying. Beyond that
Speaker 2: steakhouse joke was just all the Luka doncic stuff was
Speaker 2: was great clips of people reading, like reading the news
Speaker 2: and just being unwilling to believe it for five minutes now,
Speaker 2: like a person being like, no, I think it's real,
Speaker 2: and the other people on the podcast being like, dude,
Speaker 2: that's so stupid treating him. Yeah. But my favorite tweet
Speaker 2: was probably from Kenny Doocey, who somebody named Lenny on
Speaker 2: Twitter tweeted they threw Jalen Hood Shaffino in the trade
Speaker 2: like some Parsley and Kenny Doozy just retweeted Action Bronson's
Speaker 2: face saying that because it sounds so much like that,
Speaker 2: such a good chip, but really they should give that
Speaker 2: up to ghost Space. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no Action Bronzing without ghost Space. And that's
Speaker 1: me being a forty year old hip hop head. But
Speaker 1: either way, thank you respect to Action brods Into.
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Speaker 2: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 2: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 2: is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been as part of the going through some
Speaker 1: of my old things at my mom's house. I found
Speaker 1: this old Jadilla vinyl that I listened to a lot
Speaker 1: called J Delicious The Delicious Vinyl Years, which is a
Speaker 1: must have album for the for the Dilla fans out there.
Speaker 1: But there's specifically I was listening to the instrumental of
Speaker 1: the of the remix of.
Speaker 2: The track sometimes, so this is the sometimes.
Speaker 1: Remix instrumental, and this is a track that have the
Speaker 1: brand new Heavies on it and Q tip uh.
Speaker 2: The track is cool too with with.
Speaker 1: The vocals on it, but sometimes I just like playing
Speaker 1: Dilla beats just as in.
Speaker 2: The background because they're great.
Speaker 1: So anyway, check this out. Sometimes remix instrumental Jay.
Speaker 2: Dillon and that will be in the footnotes. Dailey's I
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