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Speaker 2: the Internet, and welcome to season three, seventy four, Episode

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Speaker 2: two of Dirtily Hey production of iHeartRadio. This is a

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Speaker 2: And it is Tuesday, February fourth, twenty twenty five. Damn

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Speaker 1: A mail Carrier Day, because I know shit is hard

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Speaker 2: Some very skinny legs. Yeah, guy's got dang gobblers gobblers bottom.

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Speaker 3: God, Miles is really in a struggle.

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Speaker 3: Tim Cook is Tim Cooking in a in a baggy

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Speaker 1: But with that ridiculous see that crazy ass watch he

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Speaker 2: Isn't like his video where he's like, I'm just like you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's based off the Godfather or some ship.

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Speaker 3: They literally biological human.

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Speaker 2: Family and they're turning exactly exactly. He's not fooling us

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Speaker 2: with his midlife crisis. Chain real is using dark magic

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Speaker 3: I'm just like you and I want to say homophobic

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Speaker 2: We've got to Facebook has been far too feminine for

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Speaker 2: How do we do that? How do we get Tim?

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Speaker 1: But they have a bar where like this old timey

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Speaker 2: I'm retired. Well that sounds cool. Yeah, yeah, I've never

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Speaker 1: a computer, but Apple won't allow it to be a computer.

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Speaker 1: So it's that's where your kind of value assessment begins

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and

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Speaker 2: we're back. We're back. Hey, Hey. It feels like the

435
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Speaker 2: Trump administration has created this rhythm where he does a

436
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Speaker 2: thing everyone's like, that's essentially against the law. What he

437
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Speaker 2: just did, Okay, and then yeah, so and then people

438
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Speaker 2: keep like ask can he do that? Before we get

439
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Speaker 2: an answer, he does the next thing that's against the

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Speaker 2: law that we weren't ready for him to do yet, right,

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Speaker 2: So I think the answer ends up being no, he

442
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Speaker 2: can't do that, at least as of right now in

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Speaker 2: a bunch of these cases. But I feel like we're

444
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Speaker 2: moving on too quickly, and so he's like getting these

445
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Speaker 2: like wins for him, like getting to like flex and

446
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: act like he's doing things that like doing whatever he wants.

447
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Speaker 2: But then it like the media isn't sticking around to

448
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, that actually got overturned and that actually

449
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Speaker 2: is not legal in the federal judge said that like

450
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Speaker 2: gave the speech from Happy Gilmore where he's like, you

451
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Speaker 2: no points God your soul, Like, this is a This

452
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Speaker 2: is a quote from a Ronald Reagan appointee temporarily blocking

453
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Speaker 2: his order to end birthrate citizenship. This is a blatantly

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Speaker 2: unconstitutional order. I have difficulty understanding how a member of

455
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Speaker 2: the bar would state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order.

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Speaker 2: It just boggles my mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's referencing the Trump lawyers, like the lawyers saying this,

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Speaker 3: Like how could you be a licensed attorney and say

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Speaker 3: this shit with a straight face?

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Speaker 2: Uh? I think at the end of this like chain

461
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Speaker 2: of cause and effect that is being started by these

462
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: things that it does come down to like who gone

463
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Speaker 2: check me boo? Who? Like, who's gonna stop him? And

464
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: who's gonna check me v boo? And the answer is

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Speaker 2: that I hear Ali, Like, Oh, the Supreme Court is

466
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Speaker 2: eventually going to have to weigh in on this one. Probably.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of this podcast five to four,

468
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Speaker 2: and it is, in addition to being educational and wildly

469
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: entertaining make me laugh, has given me a severe lack

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Speaker 2: of faith in the Supreme Court to do the right thing.

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Speaker 2: So Rihann I just want to get your sense, as

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Speaker 2: one of the hosts of that show, like how are

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Speaker 2: you feeling as you were as you're witnessing these this

474
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Speaker 2: first week and a half of attempted authoritarianism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry to throw like cold water on the

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Speaker 3: whole idea that like the Supreme Court is the check,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I think it's like if you if

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Speaker 3: you think that, if you hear that, or we hear

479
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: it so much that like you're not wrong to like

480
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Speaker 3: think that because people say, like, you know, only the

481
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court now can stand up to Trump, or you know,

482
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Speaker 3: the Supreme courts can have a really interesting role under

483
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Speaker 3: the creeping authoritarianism administration, you know. But like that's because

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Speaker 3: like just like structurally, like the three branches of government,

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Speaker 3: like the Supreme Court, like, yeah, it really doesn't do

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Speaker 3: anything other than check the other branches. Like that is

487
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Speaker 3: what the Supreme Court does. But so like structurally, you

488
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Speaker 3: get why people like think that. At the same time,

489
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Speaker 3: at the same time, y'all, we have to we have

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Speaker 3: to be looking at the conservative project, the project of

491
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Speaker 3: doing authoritarianism in the United States as the branch is

492
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Speaker 3: working together to do that. And that includes the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Supreme Court while they could check Donald Trump,

494
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Speaker 3: you know, granted him almost total immunity in office last

495
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Speaker 3: term before he before he got elected. So yeah, we

496
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: need to see and and with all of these cases

497
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Speaker 3: that are about to be in front of the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: You know, while there might be some tiki tak here

499
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Speaker 3: and there where the Court says like, ah, that's a

500
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Speaker 3: little bit too far out there in terms of the

501
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Speaker 3: constitutional order, we have to have to have to view

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court as an institution that is in place

503
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Speaker 3: right now and operating right now, as a green light

504
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Speaker 3: for authoritarianism, not a check on authoritarianism, right.

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Speaker 2: It kind of has been for a while. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: the first ones there, it just seems it seems weird

507
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: to me that the first ones to get there to

508
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, this guy can do whatever the fuck

509
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Speaker 2: he wants. Also, no more abortions, thanks, that's been our time.

510
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Speaker 2: Are the ones that people are like, well, the Supreme

511
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Speaker 2: Court's not gonna app surely this, surely this will be

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Speaker 2: the line.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well that god, I mean it's I was hoping,

514
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Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't really checked the news in the

515
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Speaker 1: last three weeks.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, they're gonna they'll figure it out.

517
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Speaker 2: They'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But then you have to zoom out and be like, Okay, so, yes,

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Speaker 1: the Federalist Society has they've been taking their time saying,

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Speaker 1: let's get our starters in there. You know, we got

521
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Speaker 1: we got to revamp this whole roster, baby, if we

522
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Speaker 1: want to start winning titles. And they've they've got they've

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Speaker 1: got the pieces now to do that. And I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just like even the last four years,

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Speaker 1: where they'll be the things where they clearly come down

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Speaker 1: on the side of the conservative movement, and then you

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Speaker 1: get these occasional scraps that they throw out to make

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Speaker 1: them seem they're like, we're not a completely politicized body.

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Speaker 2: I mean we just did the.

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Speaker 3: Bare minimum back right, right, And yeah, I think like people,

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Speaker 3: I think it's like a real failure of legal media.

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Speaker 3: Actually that for decades has has been like when when media,

533
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Speaker 3: when you hear about these cases being decided, you hear

534
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Speaker 3: about them like on just the legal terms, or you

535
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: just hear or read about like Okay, well this is

536
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Speaker 3: why the fucking freak ghoul Sam Alito said what he said,

537
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: and this was the justification, and then there's never anything

538
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Speaker 3: else that's like, oh, this is part of like a

539
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: much big, bigger project. They've been doing this for a

540
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Speaker 3: long time. Here's all the people who are going to

541
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Speaker 3: be hurt by this, and here are all of the

542
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Speaker 3: other here are all of the other like arguments or

543
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: reasons why this is wrong. So yeah, I think like

544
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: media in general and how we cover and talk about

545
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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court is like a big reason for this.

546
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Speaker 3: But I'm here to tell you, and we on five

547
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Speaker 3: four say it all the time. You know, it's it's

548
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Speaker 3: really important to understand these six hyper conservative freakazoids. It's

549
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: really important to understand that they act like politicians. They

550
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: are doing politics right, right, they are doing fascism right

551
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: when they overturn Roe v. Wade when they say in

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Speaker 3: three h three creative that you know, a woman doesn't

553
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Speaker 3: have to make a wedding website for a gay couple, right, She.

554
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Speaker 2: Doesn't even have to have a web design business to.

555
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Speaker 3: Do it, or an actual gay couple that asked her

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Speaker 3: to do to do the wedding website, right.

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Speaker 2: Football coach who exactly.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, So you have to see this institution as an

559
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Speaker 3: institution that is also doing implementing fascism and authoritarianism, and

560
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Speaker 3: that's what they're there to do, and they're happy to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: You think, Leonard Leo, he's just kicking back. He's like, bro,

563
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Speaker 2: they don't. Ain't nobody saying my biggest.

564
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Speaker 3: Gatherer of the past twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: They are winning. We do have to I feel like

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Speaker 2: we got to admit, like, yeah, I feel like a

567
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: big part of the media response to Trump and the

568
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: authoritarian project of you know, the Supreme Court has been

569
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Speaker 2: like they'll never get away with this, and like kind

570
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Speaker 2: of like, look, how stupid they are to think that

571
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Speaker 2: they can get away with this right before they like

572
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Speaker 2: get away with it, you know, like that that response

573
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Speaker 2: to be like this guy doesn't know what he's doing

574
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Speaker 2: just feels like ultimately it doesn't matter. Even if he

575
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: doesn't know what he's doing, it's working for him and them,

576
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Speaker 2: and yes, they just keep winning because because the opponent

577
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: doesn't realize they're playing like they I don't I don't

578
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Speaker 2: know what to even say.

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Speaker 3: Like they're they're being bold, right, like the right wing

580
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: is being bold. Trump administration all these crazy, crazy executive orders.

581
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: They're being bold and they're not checking themselves thinking, mm,

582
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Speaker 3: is this illegal? I don't know they're doing it. It's like,

583
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, throw throw the spaghetti at the wall and

584
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: see what sticks, right, And and so the Supreme Court

585
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Speaker 3: to the extent that like, yeah, it checks them. We're

586
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Speaker 3: we're so far like the overtam window is so so right, right,

587
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: is so so conservative that yeah, if you're getting some

588
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: kind of check on this stuff, well yeah, it's the

589
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: it's tiny stuff compared to the in totality, how like

590
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: our government is being transformed, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like we're just

592
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Speaker 1: like in the Like I was saying this on yesterday's show,

593
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Speaker 1: it's just a lot of a lot of us are

594
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: just sort of in denial that this actually like forget

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00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: that country you grew up in twenty years ago, Like that.

596
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Shit is that shit that that order, that old order

597
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: completely gone, completely gone.

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Speaker 1: And that is not coming back for I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's going to come back in our lifetime. Even so,

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Speaker 1: it's much much more empowering to understand the assignment and

601
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Speaker 1: say no, this is this is what's happening right now, and.

602
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Speaker 2: Where where's my part in all of this.

603
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Speaker 1: And I say, you got to be out there in

604
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Speaker 1: the street and shit like that, like doing all kinds

605
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Speaker 1: of wild shit, but understanding that this is something more

606
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: people need to put their attention on, because they are

607
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Speaker 1: they are fucking at the wheel and they are we were,

608
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Speaker 1: We've already gone through a few walls, and we're about

609
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Speaker 1: to keep hitting more walls this week though there's even

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Speaker 1: more stuff that the Supreme more.

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Speaker 2: Business in front of the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was, and I obviously wanted to get

613
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Speaker 1: your take on this because one of them is very

614
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Speaker 1: obvious to me how problematic it is and awful and backwards,

615
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Speaker 1: and then the other two I'm like, I feel like

616
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Speaker 1: there's a little nuance that you can probably we help

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Speaker 1: flesh out.

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Speaker 3: For us in religious freedom stuff.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: So the first one is regarding government funding of Catholic

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Speaker 1: charter schools before they could get vouchers, which was only

622
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Speaker 1: doing like a little bit of pain a little bit

623
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Speaker 1: of funding. Now we're talking about full blown. The feds

624
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Speaker 1: are now paying for.

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Speaker 2: Full blown Jesus schools.

626
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that feels like that feels that

627
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Speaker 1: feels like it's butting up against the First Amendment and

628
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Speaker 1: what I know about religion and the federal government, so

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Speaker 1: that one seems pretty obvious that that could open the

630
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Speaker 1: floodgates of all kinds of backwards teaching and weird schools

631
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Speaker 1: suddenly getting the funding to teach whatever they want to.

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Speaker 2: Another one feels is they like getting in under Catholic

633
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Speaker 2: because like people are like, I've heard of Catholic schools.

634
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Speaker 2: Those can't be so bad. Like, so we'll allow they're weird.

635
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Speaker 2: They are weird, but they have a long history. I

636
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Speaker 2: just feel like, as opposed to if it was like

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Speaker 2: my mom's special version of Christianity that she invented, right schools,

638
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I wonder why they went

639
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Speaker 2: Catholic just to I think, look, I think they just knew.

640
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Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because at the end of the day,

642
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: it's more just about being like, yeah, well, whatever y'all do,

643
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Speaker 1: you'll do in Jesus teachings, here's some money teach on.

644
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Speaker 1: Another one deals with parents being able to opt out

645
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Speaker 1: of curriculum where they're being like, well, if if they

646
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Speaker 1: have LGBTQ plus characters or concepts, I do not want

647
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Speaker 1: my I want my child to be as ignorant as

648
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Speaker 1: possible and to be made fun of infinitely in their adulthood,

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Speaker 1: So I would like them to I would like to

650
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: hide reality from them as much as possible. That one,

651
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: it seems like basically I don't know, probably, can you

652
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: kind of walk us through. It feels like probably at

653
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: that point we're completely upending where the power dynamic is

654
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: and how children are taught to just be like, well,

655
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: if enough parents want to opt out, then you might

656
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: have to change the whole curriculum, or maybe you don't

657
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: send kids to that school.

658
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

659
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: No, these are both pretty crazy cases. Crazy again, like

660
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: this goes back to exactly what I was just saying,

661
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: where the Overton window has shipped. It's so far right.

662
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: These are pretty out there in terms of like conservative arguments,

663
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: like the lower courts and precedent over decades, is pretty

664
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: clear that both of these cases, like the state directly

665
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: funding religious schools, that's like unheard of, right, and then

666
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: the same thing was like opting out of public school curriculum.

667
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: Both of these cases obviously come under their First Amendment,

668
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: like freedom of religion. I just want to like, I

669
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: just want to differentiate between the two, So the government

670
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: funding public schools, that would be under what's called the

671
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: establishment clause of the First Amendment that says, like, the

672
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: state can't make a law that respects a certain establishment

673
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: of religion. Right, that's the separation of church and state.

674
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: That is the clause in the First Amendment. The second one,

675
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: where parents are trying to have their kids opt out

676
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: of mandatory curriculum in public schools, that's the free exercise clause. Right,

677
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: the government can't infringe on your individual free exercise of

678
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: your faith. Parents are saying, well, when my kids have

679
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: to go to story time in the library at the

680
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: public school, and story time features a book they're getting

681
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: read a book about being trans child, right, about about

682
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: a mom making a rainbow wig for her trans child

683
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 3: or for a kid walking around pride, Well, that that

684
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: infringes on the free exercise of my religion. Like you said, Miles,

685
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: like both of these cases are really really crazy. The justices,

686
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: you know, coming down in the way that the conservatives

687
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: want them to really upends like a lot of how

688
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: we think of the First Amendment, like working right, and

689
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: I think in terms of like choosing like, oh, which

690
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: one would be more impactful than the other. I think

691
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: it's really important to like see again all of these cases.

692
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: You know, there's also, uh, there's also a case about

693
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: like tax exemptions for religious organizations that's coming up at

694
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. Look at them all as part of

695
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: the project, right, just like the executive orders, right, Trump

696
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: is doing that, He's doing it at a different pace, right,

697
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: which there's a different strategy behind. But you see in

698
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: the totality of the executive orders a fascist project, an

699
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: authoritarian project. We should be viewing Supreme Court cases in

700
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: the same way, particularly because the Supreme Court decides what

701
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: cases it takes, decides what cases that they have total

702
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: control over, the cases that are going to be argued

703
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: in front of them, and what they want to be

704
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: deciding and changing the law on every single term. Right,

705
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 3: So in the totality of these cases, the First Amendment

706
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: and the freedom of religion, separation of Church and State

707
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: cases at the Supreme Court, this term, you see, you

708
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: see a project, and you see what the right is

709
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: focused on.

710
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: Right.

711
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: You see what they're going to be trying to weaponize

712
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: in the law in you know, the next couple of dedays,

713
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: GIDS and here it's going to be the First Amendment. Here,

714
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: it's going to be saying, you know, gay people, existing

715
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: stories being told, queer people being around me, or books

716
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 3: that my children read that include queer characters, that's actually

717
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: an infringement on my civil liberties. Right. That is, that

718
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: is fascistic. Right. That is that all of this is

719
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: about creating in and out groups a scary other right

720
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: that we can all put our problems on and our

721
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: violence on. And so again, you see the Supreme Court

722
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: doing this work for a fascist movement in the same

723
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: way that we can like clearly see that Trump as

724
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: an individual is doing that work as well. You know, Yeah,

725
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: I feel really I feel like it's so doomsday. I'm

726
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: really sorry you guys, but we got to be clear sighted.

727
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta be Yeah, we gotta keep our eyes

728
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: open and like understand what is happening, because especially now

729
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: that I just I feel like the the mainstream response

730
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: is really having a hard time like getting its mind

731
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: around what is happening and like seeing it for what

732
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: it is. Like, Yeah, it really feels like there is

733
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: this big fascist project. Like it's interesting because I feel

734
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: like my understanding of fascism historically was they had big

735
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: a lot of bureaucracy and like you know, they trains

736
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: ran on time. Thing was like a big bragging point

737
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: this yeah, and this time it seems to be like

738
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: they're just breaking everything and then use it. When the

739
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: thing breaks, they're like, oh, that's because people were too

740
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: nice to gay people and black people, and so like

741
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: it's got like kind of a new look fascism where

742
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: like they're incompetence and they're tearing down of everything allows

743
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: for them to like make an argument for the continued

744
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: privatization of every everything and like the takeover by monopolies

745
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: and oligarchs and exactly. Yeah, yeah, but the but why

746
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: is the media? Like it just it feels like the

747
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: media was operating under these very specific sets of rules

748
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: of like well, we can't call this out because then

749
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: it's too seems like we're being too biased or something,

750
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: and so they just they learned whatever the media's like

751
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: playbook is of like what they will tolerate, what they won't,

752
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: and just like yeah, now they know exactly how to

753
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: work inside this system. And yeah, the media like doesn't

754
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: know how to just be like this is what's happening.

755
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: This is clearly what's happening. They're successfully dismantling civilization like

756
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: as we knew it. And yeah, because I guess because

757
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: the media has been pretty complicit in that for so

758
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: long in other ways that like that they're not willing

759
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: to call it out now.

760
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think there's like a few things

761
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: in the media question, But I do you think, like

762
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: the media question is such a massive, such a massive

763
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: like contributing factor to to the problems is that, like

764
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: there's so much misinformation. There's also too much information and

765
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: the media is approaching I think both of those categories

766
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: in both like dropping the ball in fucked up ways

767
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: in terms of too much information. For example, the media, Yes,

768
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: like journalists have a role in interpreting and explaining every

769
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: executive order to us, right, Like I appreciate the people

770
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: who are doing that, but again, what we fail to

771
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: do when we're like, okay, let's break down every executive

772
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: order is we're missing the forest for the trees and

773
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: we and we don't see that like bigger project, right yea,

774
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: and we end up getting we end up all of

775
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: us feeling siloed in like what you do because it's like, oh,

776
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: well that's a lot. And then the way you fight

777
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: that is a legal case, and that's a you know,

778
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: that's a policy at the EPA or whatever, you know,

779
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: And so the folks there are going to fight it

780
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: this way. And then but when we see it as

781
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: a project, we really like, you know, you start to see, uh,

782
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: you start to see your role, even as somebody who

783
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: you know might be disconnected, you start to see a

784
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: role for collective power. The media is captured, a captured

785
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: institution in the same way the Supreme Court is. I

786
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: think that's a really big problem. Right, So when we're

787
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: talking about you said oligarchy, I think that's really right.

788
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: We live now in an oligarchy that Trump is making

789
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: like very clear to everybody, Like we know who the

790
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: oligarchs are, right, Like, they're right in front of us

791
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: doing Nazi salutes and stuff.

792
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know wherred to, but yeah.

793
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and it's those oligarchs that like control

794
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 3: the media, right like they're you know, Jeff Bezos is

795
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: putting his thumb down on the scale at the on

796
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: the Washington Post editorial board, right. Uh, this is happening.

797
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: This is happening everywhere, especially across like corporate legacy media.

798
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: And then yeah, what you get is the conflicts of interest.

799
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: What you get is really muddied political analysis. You know,

800
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: writers and journalists like going to the top, who who

801
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: haven't they're being rewarded for not right talking in critical

802
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: ways about about what's happening and so yeah, I mean

803
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: from our corner of things over on five to four,

804
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about how legal media specifically has

805
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: really failed the public for for a really long time.

806
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: And a lot of that is based on, like, yeah,

807
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: advancing in your job and relationships, right. A lot of

808
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: the top like legal Supreme court reporters, they have relationships.

809
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: They like to be able to uh talk directly to

810
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: the justices, right, and so if you put in your

811
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: column that that so and so justice is, uh you know,

812
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: is receiving gifts from billionaires who have cases in front

813
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: of him at that time, well you lose your access.

814
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: You don't have your wine.

815
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 4: Buddy, Oh why didn't you go work for pro public? Gout?

816
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: We're here to do fluff pieces. Okay, Oh my god.

817
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: That the decorations though it Alito's home.

818
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: Wonderful, wonderful. I mean, we've all thought about what we

819
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: would do if we were burdened by that much wealth.

820
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Obviously you buy historical stuff. And yes, sometimes fascists owned it. Okay,

821
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: yeahka solicitly Nazi.

822
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: It's historical. Can't you see.

823
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just this. This flags about an appeal to heaven. Okay,

824
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: take what? Just take that.

825
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: What's so wrong with having an appeal to heaven? Don't

826
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: add your other stuff to it? Just saying anyway, you're right.

827
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: And my heaven is the one from My Blue Heaven

828
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: with Steve Barton and Rick Miranda, So do try your

829
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: head out of the gutter. Huh. Cool, All right, let's

830
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We will be right back

831
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: to talk about gobblers not and we're back. We're back,

832
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: and let's look at let's look at some stupid bullshit

833
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: news shallow whoa, Just take a this is pretty it

834
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: is pretty consequential. That's maybe the stuff that shocked about

835
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: in the last act. Maybe you can characterize that stuff.

836
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: But this is this magic. Zoom out to see the

837
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: larger project. Please please, They're controlling the fucking weather, jack,

838
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you don't you know that the

839
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: fucking groundhogs control the weather. Okay, yeah, I knew, I

840
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: knew things had changed from some of the articles you

841
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: were forordering me when you were out, But I didn't

842
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: know about the punks of Tawny Phil et Bock Times. Dude,

843
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: some real interesting stuff in there. Yeah. So over the weekend,

844
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: the Sunday was ground hugg Day. Groundhogs is a groundhog

845
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: or groundhog hog?

846
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: Does it belong to the groundhog? Yeah?

847
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it should. I think we should give

848
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: it back if it doesn't. Thank you. The big hero

849
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: punks a Tawny Phil that he is like kind of

850
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: the ball drop of groundhog Day. You know, he's like

851
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: the the central symbol icon of groundhog Day. We all

852
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: know it from the Bill Murray movie predicted unfortunately, there

853
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: will be six more weeks of winter. And our writer

854
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: JM did the hard work of actually watching the ceremony

855
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: and it is weird as fuck. I was then sucked

856
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: into watching it as well. Apparently his decision what's that?

857
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: I said? How weird is it? So his decision is

858
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: communicated in groundhog language to the Groundhog Club's president, who

859
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: can translate thanks to his presidential cane. So there's like

860
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: a magical cane. There's the groundhog is talking to him

861
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: like he picks a screen role. That is like written

862
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: the way like in a like limerick. One scroll says

863
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: early spring, the other scroll said six more weeks of winter, right, yes,

864
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: and it's it's also also this group is known as

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Speaker 2: the Inner Circle. I was just reading that from the

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Speaker 2: Wikipedia page. They dress like barrens of industry from the

867
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Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds.

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00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: Like still this is the actually, yeah, this is like

869
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: the darkest shit I've ever seen now that I look

870
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: at it, Like this, Mike and they and it's also

871
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: like that fake, like cold type shit. We're like, honestly,

872
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: we're the only ones that can communicate with the groundhop. Yes,

873
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: so you don't have to believe what we say.

874
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: There's just one channel, yeah, exactly.

875
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, it was like a record sized crowd at

876
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: Gobblers not in Pennsylvania.

877
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: Were lifting him. Sorry.

878
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, they go into a hutch that's like

879
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: carved to the side of a tree trunk, and apparently

880
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: the ground hug is like get the fuck away for me,

881
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: because it takes them like five minutes to get a

882
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: hold of the ground hug. They're just in there like

883
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: they're like come on, phrantically reaching around, come on, fuck

884
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: all right, he holds it up the ground Hug is

885
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: fucking terrified, scratching his face. Yeah, and then yeah the

886
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: ground Hug whispers in his ear which scroll to pick

887
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: and I'm just a little concerned for the first time

888
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: during the course of doing this job. Now, okay, guys,

889
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: this is the this concerns me that we're seeing in

890
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five record sized crowds for this event.

891
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: I just to everyone to see the rat fortune teller?

892
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Do we see the rat fortune teller? Just feels like,

893
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: obviously we're seeing things slide backwards everywhere else, But like,

894
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: is it that bad that our national shared consciousness is

895
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: like tell us rat, tell us what what have to

896
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: tell us? Please?

897
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I can see like half of it

898
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: being like oh and the other part being like me,

899
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: if you're like man, the only ship that's real anymore

900
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: is going out to Gobbler's Knob with the homies, just

901
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: being with the homies, yeah, and yelling at a rat

902
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: for community.

903
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean children crave ad. This is something

904
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: that I did, determined that my children crave communes over

905
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 2: because like we did a like a cub scout camping

906
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: trip that ended up like being too cold to camp,

907
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: so we just like stayed in a house with a

908
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: bunch of other families, and like my kids like still

909
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: talk about just like played board games. My kids are

910
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: still like, man, that was fucking awesome. I'm like, that

911
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: was just a commune. We were just lived in a

912
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: commune for a night. Yeah. Yeah, But I've been reading

913
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: about these dad, Let's start one. Let's start one. They

914
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: got some interesting ideas. They do a lot of interesting ideas.

915
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: Catholic arder schools, here we come. But yeah, I'm just wondering.

916
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: I think there's obviously the need for community that is

917
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: being ripped out in all these other places of our lives.

918
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: But also I do just wonder, like, is our desire

919
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: to believe in magic just go following our institutions slide

920
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: backward into the Middle Ages? Or is our belief in

921
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: magic making it possible for our institutions to slide backward?

922
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: A little chicken the egg. Yeah, there's I think. I

923
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: think Porque Nolo's does.

924
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 2: You know I think things.

925
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 3: I think these things are in block step with one another,

926
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: for sure. I also think, you know, you see this

927
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: like across social media. For sure, there's a little bit

928
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: of like, you know that the the yearning for nostalgia,

929
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: you know, like like, let's do something that I used

930
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: to do and think about when I was eight years old,

931
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, I think there's lins like oh,

932
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: look at that weird rodent. You know, when I was eight,

933
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: I really thought about if this rat could see its shadow?

934
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: You know.

935
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was when I was eight, I had

936
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: no idea what creeping fascism was.

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00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: That's right.

938
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: That's that I have student loans either, you know what

939
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean? That was actually a good time. Where were

940
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: you in ninety two.

941
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 3: Exactly? So yeah, people are yearning a little bit for

942
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: for the magic. I think the magic of the fuzzy rat.

943
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Believe it. Yeah, it's little. I mean it has like

944
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: Santa Claus where it's like, yeah, he whispered in my ear.

945
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah too fairy yep.

946
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a guy in the crowd who you can

947
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 2: hear scream we want spring.

948
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: Only avenue where he can where he can express ye desires.

949
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

950
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, men will go to punk satany phil ceremony instead

951
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: of therapy. You know.

952
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will say and will y'all scream things like

953
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: we want spring rather than I want to forgive my father?

954
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: Right? You know, it's a little bit more complex, but

955
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: we'll start there. Yeah, we want spring.

956
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: Huh, what's your dad's name, guys, anybody, it's not related,

957
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: but coincidentally, my dad's name is also Phil.

958
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: And then ber send the tears, yes, okaya, tell tell Phil,

959
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: tell them in groundhoggies right now? Okay, Well, Ran, And

960
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: it's been such a pleasure having you as always on

961
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: the daily geist where some people Where can people find you?

962
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Speaker 2: Follow you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on social media at au Rhannon that's a

964
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Speaker 3: y w A, but for sure follow us on social

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966
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Speaker 3: like the numbers, but but spelled out and you can

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Speaker 3: hit us up patriot, patreon dot com, slash five four

968
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Speaker 3: pod if you want to subscribe. And then what one

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Speaker 3: more thing I got a promo is that I'm on

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Speaker 3: a new podcast about Palestine, about the struggle for Palestinian

971
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Speaker 3: liberation from here in the far diaspora that is called

972
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Speaker 3: Popular Cradle.

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Speaker 2: You can uh.

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Speaker 3: Follow us on Instagram and start listening YouTube wherever you

975
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Speaker 3: listen to podcasts. Popular Cradle amazing.

976
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Speaker 2: Go check it out. And is there a work of

977
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: media that you've been enjoying?

978
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: You know, I was never big on TikTok until uh,

979
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, the controversy, and so now I've been scrolling

980
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: TikTok and yesterday came across a video of goats in

981
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 3: like you know Central East Asia, I mean Central Asia,

982
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: like a like a you know Himalayas, These like real

983
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: winter guys, these real snow mountain guys. But it's they

984
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: not like us. In the background, it's just the goats

985
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 3: like jumping around bom boom boom bob bab type of shit.

986
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm on, you wouldn't understand, Like it's so good.

987
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: It's it's so so good, understand.

988
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry for the intensity y'all all your listeners

989
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: right well, sorry if you live in a time of fascism,

990
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 3: but goats, you know boats, goats.

991
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Amazing. Miles Where can people find you

992
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: as their working media you've been enjoying. I'm still on

993
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: social look, I haven't been checking because I have a

994
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: bit on my plate outside of this, so I'm not

995
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: quite checking the mentions yet, but I will be soon enough.

996
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: But shout out to everybody that's reached out. Find me

997
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: at Miles of Gray wherever they serve at symbols, you

998
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: can also find jacking on the basketball podcast Miles of

999
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: jackob at BOOSTI, and very soon for twenty Day Fiance

1000
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: will be back where I talk about ninety Day Fiance.

1001
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: I just as again, I just gotta gotta I gotta

1002
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: tick a few boxes in the old personal life before

1003
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm able to fully fully get back to, you know,

1004
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: doing this podcasting thing at full speed.

1005
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: I don't, incidentally, I don't have a work of social

1006
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: media that I've been enjoying. I did watch the second

1007
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: season of The Diplomat, which was wild.

1008
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: This is so fun.

1009
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: This is a show like hermssion I watching right before

1010
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: the house burned down, and then like we kind of

1011
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: like we were like putting on TV like log in

1012
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: and Netflix, like you want to continue watching this? And

1013
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's so weird. How like the cloud is like,

1014
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: well wait, we cannot be destroyed. You want to pick

1015
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: up on episode four of The Diplomat just a very

1016
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: low friend people like to show.

1017
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: I like this season not great. I don't know, I

1018
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: don't know.

1019
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: The steaks are very all over the place, and I'm like, okay,

1020
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: full this is way too convenient lazy writing anyway, Uh

1021
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: find that that's it?

1022
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: Yea, like a disorganized steakhouse. The stakes are way too

1023
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: all over the place. Yeah, you know what I mean. Thanks, Anyways,

1024
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: like it would be a steakhouse on a on a

1025
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: cruise ship and there we go, turbulent waters. All right,

1026
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 2: let's get into a place where it's worth saying, yeah,

1027
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: you sai to clean that up. Type of media I've

1028
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: been enjoying. Uh, you wouldn't understand there it is. Type

1029
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: of media or the media I've been enjoying. Beyond that

1030
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: steakhouse joke was just all the Luka doncic stuff was

1031
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: was great clips of people reading, like reading the news

1032
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: and just being unwilling to believe it for five minutes now,

1033
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: like a person being like, no, I think it's real,

1034
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 2: and the other people on the podcast being like, dude,

1035
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: that's so stupid treating him. Yeah. But my favorite tweet

1036
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: was probably from Kenny Doocey, who somebody named Lenny on

1037
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: Twitter tweeted they threw Jalen Hood Shaffino in the trade

1038
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: like some Parsley and Kenny Doozy just retweeted Action Bronson's

1039
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: face saying that because it sounds so much like that,

1040
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: such a good chip, but really they should give that

1041
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: up to ghost Space. You know.

1042
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no Action Bronzing without ghost Space. And that's

1043
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: me being a forty year old hip hop head. But

1044
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: either way, thank you respect to Action brods Into.

1045
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian

1046
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: and on Blue Sky at Jack ob the Number One.

1047
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist, where

1048
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1049
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: fan page on a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where

1050
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: we post our episodes and our foot notes. We link

1051
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

1052
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

1053
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

1054
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been as part of the going through some

1055
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: of my old things at my mom's house. I found

1056
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: this old Jadilla vinyl that I listened to a lot

1057
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: called J Delicious The Delicious Vinyl Years, which is a

1058
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: must have album for the for the Dilla fans out there.

1059
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: But there's specifically I was listening to the instrumental of

1060
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: the of the remix of.

1061
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: The track sometimes, so this is the sometimes.

1062
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: Remix instrumental, and this is a track that have the

1063
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: brand new Heavies on it and Q tip uh.

1064
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: The track is cool too with with.

1065
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: The vocals on it, but sometimes I just like playing

1066
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: Dilla beats just as in.

1067
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 2: The background because they're great.

1068
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: So anyway, check this out. Sometimes remix instrumental Jay.

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Speaker 2: Dillon and that will be in the footnotes. Dailey's I

1070
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Speaker 2: Guess the production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from

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Speaker 2: my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast wherever

1072
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna do it

1073
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Speaker 2: for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you

1074
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: what is trending and we will talk to you all

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Speaker 2: then bye, goodbye, bye bye bye