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This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Surrelate on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: M h D two two hours from night to until 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: the seven p m. Sir curfew takes effect here inside 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: of the nation's capital. Lots to get through in terms 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: of how President Trump is navigating this and how Democrats 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: are navigating this, how the country is grappling with the 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: cities of America scorned and hurting, hurting. We have an 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: all star team of reporters to help us get through this, 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: and what has the reaction been around the world. Guy 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Snodgrass is going to join us as well, and al 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Matter gives us his take. Democratic strategist partner at Brownstein 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Hied Farber and Shrek. His take on former Vice President 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's speech today in Philadelphia lots to get through. 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: Let's first get to check of the headlines from a 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: good friend, Nancy Lions. Now, thanks, Kevin, I start with 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: that speech. Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is condemning 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: President Trump for allowing the use of tear gas on 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: peaceful protesters outside the White House, with Trump visiting a 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: burned out church across the street. Biden says it was 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: clearly a staged photo of President held up the Bible 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: at St. John's Church yesterday. I just wish he opened 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: it once in a while instead of brandishing it. If 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: he opened it, he could have learned something. Biden says 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Congress needs to address systemic racism with laws to outlaw 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: police choke hold and increase oversight and accountability of police 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: departments of President Trump's allies. Senator Lindsey Graham says he 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: will hold a hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee on 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: June six to examine the death of George Floyd and 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: police custody. It's clear to me that policing uh and 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: among them men in the African American community is a 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: topic that needs to be discussed and acted upon, and 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: I expect this committee to do our part. House Majority 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Leader Stenny Hoyer of Maryland says the Congressional Black Caucus 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: is taking the lead on developing a House legislative package. 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: DC Mayor Muriel Bowser is upset with President Trump and 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: federal authorities after protesters were forced out of Lafayette Square 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: last night before the city's curfew began. Protesters were forcibly 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: removed by authorities so the President could walk across the 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: street to see that damaged church. From what I could see, 48 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: just like you all, um could see, I didn't see 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: any provocation that would warrant um the deployment of munition 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: um and especially for the purpose of moving the president. 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: DC police officers were not involved in the operation to 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: escort the president. Virginia Congressman Jerry Connolly, who chairs the 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Government Operations Subcommittee, is demanding answers from the Secret Service 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: following what he calls an unwarranted attack on peaceful protesters. 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: He's requesting information on whether the Secret Service may have 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: directed the use of the tear gas and rubber bullets 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: that were used against the protesters. For that photo op. 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Seven states, including Maryland in the district, are voting today. 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Maryland voters are choosing presidential nominees, the mayor of Baltimore, 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: and members of Congress. They're they're voting mostly by mail 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: because of social distancing, envelopes must be postmarked by today. 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: In the district, voters are also choosing presidential nominees and 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: four of the eight seats on the DC Council. Most 64 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: voters in the district have already voted by mail, but 65 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: twenty precincts are open for in person voting, and that 66 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: will run until eight o'clock tonight. People voting our exempt 67 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: from the curfew. It's time now for the Beltway Business Report. 68 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: Here is Bloomberg's jone Donnager. Nancy wall Street isn't seeing 69 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: reason right now to worry about the unrest that script 70 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: the nation. So the stock averages rose six tenths to 71 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: one and a tenth percent. The Dow of two hundred 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: sixty eight seven forty three, the NAZDAC adding fifty six 73 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: to ninety six O eight, and the SMPS twenty five 74 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: point game taking it to three eighty one now puts 75 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: it at its highest level in just short of three months, 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: but Northern Virginia isn't ready to reopen yet not according 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: to Governor Northam. He says the Commonwealth's health data is 78 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: promising enough for most of the rest of the state 79 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: to move into the second phase of reopening on Friday, 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: but he says neither Northern Virginia Northern Richmond area are 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: ready for anything to change, since Northern Virginia only started 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: phase one last Friday. Direct pushback at Facebook to CEO 83 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg's decision to leave up President Trump's when the 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: looting starts the shooting starts comment. Last week, the company 85 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: held an internal town hall in which Zuckerberg said he 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: doesn't think private companies should regulate political speech. Some workers 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: had held a virtual walkout yesterday to engineers said they 88 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: quit over it because they say the social network is 89 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: failing to enforce its own rules when it comes to 90 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: the President. You're up to date now on business from 91 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: the Beltway to Baltimore. I'm John Donnag. This is Bloomberg 92 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven h d two Thanks Joan. 93 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Global News twenty four hours a day on air and 94 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: on quick Take by Bloomberg, powered by more than twenty 95 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred journalists and analysts and more than a hundred 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: and twenty countries. I'm Nancy Lions back to you, Kevin. 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy. I'm Kevin Siuri, chief Washington correspondent for 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and from Bloomberg Radio. And we are following 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: multiple fronts this evening, as we are less than two 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: hours away from the second night of a seven pm 101 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: curfew being enacted here in Washington, d c UH. It 102 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: was the last twenty four hours inside of the nation's 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: capital capital have been historic to say the least, UH, 104 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: and memorable to say the least. As as citizens washington Ians, 105 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: we've grown accustomed, um perhaps uncomfortably so, to helicopters, to 106 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: the deployment of tear gas, rubber bullets, and and and 107 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: tactics by police officers, by National Guard members uh in 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: in scenes that maybe a month ago we thought would 109 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: never happen here, or that we thought was from a 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: different era. UH lots to get through. We have it 111 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: all covered on multiple fronts with an all star team 112 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: of reporters and analysts. I want to kick things off 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: with Josh wind Grove. Josh, of course, is Bloomberg White 114 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: House reporter, and what did President Trump do today in 115 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: terms of addressing the country and what will he do tomorrow? Josh, Well, 116 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: we had we had him visit today the shrine of 117 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Pope John Paul the Second. This was over the objections 118 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: of the Catholic Archbishop in Washington. So that was sort 119 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: of one of the a range of pushback that he got. 120 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: And of course questions swirled all day today over that 121 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: event shall we call it last night, where police and 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: other law enforcement cleared out Lafayette Square next to the 123 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: White House using uh, smoke bombs and pepper spray, so 124 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: that the president or at least allowing the presidents shortly 125 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: after to go walk to that church. And so there 126 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: was sort of gentle pushback from a couple of Republican senators, 127 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Tim Scott, Ben Sash. Then the vast majority of the 128 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: others said nothing at all, so they didn't see it, 129 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: which is an interesting statement. Uh. And so Trump, other 130 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: than that, hasn't said much to that today. And uh, 131 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think Kelly and Conway is saying that 132 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: the reportedly another Oval Office addresses maybe still on the table. 133 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: This after, of course, an impromptu address last night before 134 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: the walk to the church. So a lot of things 135 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: up in the air right now on this one. But 136 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: the president is is getting some blowback for his event 137 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: yesterday and in particular the holding the Bible and the 138 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: taking of the photos. Josh Wingers on the line, He's 139 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg White House reporter. You mentioned the Republican response. I'm 140 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: reading from our colleague Justin Sink and Travis Stritton's report 141 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: on the Bloomberg terminal to Republican Senators Tim Scott of 142 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: South Carolina and Ben Sass of Nebraska said they did 143 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: not support the use of tear gas, rubber bullets, and 144 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: flash bang devices to disperse protesters gathered Monday and Lafayette 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Square across the street from the White House. I want 146 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: to read what a Senator Sas said, quote, there is 147 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: no right to riot, no right to destroy other's property, 148 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: and no right to throw rocks at police. But there 149 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: is a fundamental, a constitutional right to protest, and I 150 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: am against clearing out a peaceful protest for a photo 151 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: op that treats the word of God as a political 152 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: prop Those are some pretty harsh words from Senator Sash. Josh, Yeah, absolutely, 153 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: and you know, um, Senator Scott also you know, was 154 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: was discussing this and should be noted the Senator Scott 155 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: is the only black Republican senator right now. Uh so, 156 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's given the landscape that we're dealing with 157 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: right now that perhaps carries uh its own particular weight. Um. 158 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, then we had a statement just now also 159 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: because of the blue cork. Question today has been who 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: gave the order for that tear gassing or whatever you 161 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: want to call it to be used yesterday? And the 162 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: park police have gone out of their way just a 163 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: short while ago to claim that they didn't use tear 164 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: cast They just use smoke canisters and pepper spray, which functionally, 165 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's a gas that makes you tear up. 166 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: So I don't you know, I'm I'm a bit speechless 167 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: that that is the defense that they're hanging. But they 168 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: are claiming that projectiles were thrown. We're seeing similar claims 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: out of the d o J. This is at least 170 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: not widely supported by the video we had yesterday. Um 171 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: so we really don't know. I mean, you know, it 172 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: did Bill bar you know, order the clearing of this park? 173 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: Did the Park Service order the clearing of this park? 174 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Why did they order the clearing of this park. Was 175 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: it because a bottle sailed by Bill Bar's head with 176 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: I know, but you know, miraculously, I guess shortly after 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the park was cleared, so the President was able to 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: cross it. I think it's important to note that we 179 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: are living in an incredibly polarized time, and so for 180 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: some the images of the President walking to St. John's 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: and holding up a Bible was little more than a 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: political prop but for others it was a sign of 183 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: religious independence and religious freedom. And the president's re election campaign, 184 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: uh led by his campaign manager Brand Pascal, said the 185 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: president's quote determination to enforce law and order had immediate 186 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: impact end quote. From their perspective, and I spoke earlier 187 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: this afternoon with a senior source on the President's re 188 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: election campaign. From their perspective, this issue of law and 189 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: order is going to be one that might not play 190 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: well in the cities, but their banking will play well, 191 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: not just in more rural communities, but in amongst a 192 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: certain electorate in suburbs. Is that right, Josh, yeah, I 193 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: think I think that they're making that gam But of course, 194 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: in particular, suburban women are a critical cohort from them. 195 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, I get time will tell, right. I mean, 196 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: this president has a very devoted base. I yeah, I 197 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: think anyone would be surprised to see them particular. But 198 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: that's but not I apologize, I asked the question the 199 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: wrong way. Not I'm not asking you to make a 200 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: prediction here. But that's that is the calculation that they're making. 201 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: That is the that's the that they're saying that come 202 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: November that the swing voters will look back and they 203 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: will vote for law and order, and that that's going 204 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: to be where they were they were they pushed through. 205 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think that's a calculation that they're, 206 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: at least some of them are making. I I you know, 207 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: I do this is if you're the president and you 208 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: don't particularly want to get bogged down in uh sort 209 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: of painstakingly responding to the core issues that be, which 210 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: is the same police brutality, structural racism and injustice and 211 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: protesters concerns about those things. You know, the law and 212 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: order thing is an easier one to go to. But 213 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: you know, you're just you're you're targeting the reaction to 214 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: the root issue rather than the root issue itself, you know, 215 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: And for instance, George W. Bush put out the statement 216 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: what an hour ago, you know, speaking to some of 217 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: the core issues that are driving these protests, not these 218 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: sort of antifa extremists faction of the protests, but you know, 219 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: the core issue of the protests. President hasn't really done that. 220 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: It's actually put out a tweet today saying that you know, 221 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: they continue to wu black voters. In particular, he said 222 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: that he's done more for black voters than any president 223 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: since Lincoln. So, you know, I think it's an evolving 224 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: issue for them, And of course it'll be interesting you 225 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: have these protests play out, in particular in those crucial 226 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: swing states and of course the ones where black voters 227 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: are assizeable part of the electorate. It's remarkable. And we're 228 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: going to touch on what Biden said today as well, 229 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: and and how Biden is playing this and if he's 230 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: doing enough or not or should be doing more. We're 231 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk about all of it. And again, folks, look, 232 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: we are living in an incredibly polarized time. So it's 233 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: important to note that what you see in one image 234 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: is not what someone else is seeing in another. I'm 235 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Sirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for 236 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. You can download Bloomberg sound On podcast on 237 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the 238 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. You can also find me on Radio 239 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. But we all 240 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: saw the same thing, hopefully we all saw the same thing, uh, 241 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: in the death of George Floyd, because that's haunts all 242 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: of us more. Next you're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening 243 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Sireley on Bloomberg and 244 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven h D two Surreal Times. 245 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sirelich, Washington correspondent f for Bloomberg Television and 246 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Radio. I was talking with Tom Keene earlier 247 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: today on Bloomberg Surveillance, and we were we were talking 248 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: about all the different incredible reporting that has gone on, 249 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: uh in the past several I mean several weeks, but 250 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: especially the last couple of days. And one of the 251 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: articles that came up was the Hills Jonathan Easily. The 252 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: headline reads, hal Trump cleared the park around the White 253 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: House for a church photo op. And just even when 254 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I was reading this, it's it's surreal because you just 255 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, it's it's surreal. Maybe that's 256 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: on my mind works um, But he writes in this 257 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: piece quote the streets. He writes, he chronicles like a 258 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: minute by minute play by play of of that particular scene. 259 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: But this graph really really, uh really stood out to me. 260 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Hundreds of protesters had flooded the streets around the White 261 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: House as the clock ticked toward a seven pm curfew 262 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: that had been announced earlier in the day by Mayor 263 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: Murial Bowser, a Democrat. The streets around the White House 264 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: were filled with scores of police cars, armed armored vehicles, 265 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and heavily armed military personnel squaring off with angry protesters 266 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: who were concentrated at the corner of sixteen Street in 267 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: eighth Street along Lafayette Square, which faces the White House. 268 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Then he goes on to report, quote the police had 269 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: unexpectedly fired tear gas and smoke bombs at the demonstrators 270 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: without warning. It's just the scene that you just would 271 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: never think would up would play out in Washington, d C. 272 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm really really grateful that my friend Jonathan Easily of 273 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the Hill is joining us on the phone. Jonathan, congrats 274 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean great, thank you. I don't want to say congrats, 275 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: thank you for your incredible reporting throughout the past couple 276 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: of days. And and I guess what are you hearing about? 277 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: What could happen tonight? Hey, Kevin, Well, thanks for having 278 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: me and thanks for the kind words there. Um, I'm 279 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: not back on the scene right now. I just watching 280 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: the images obviously being beamed in on on cable news, 281 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: and it looks like we could be in for another, 282 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: uh another long night. Um. I mean it's sort of 283 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: what was so uh shocking about yesterday was you know, 284 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: obviously the curfew was implemented, and I think there was 285 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: sort of a sense that that might sort of call 286 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: some of the crowd that that had showed up, and 287 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: that the police might be able to to have a 288 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: better handle on it. I mean when I when I 289 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: showed up yesterday, you know what didn't wasn't bracing for 290 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: like a tense scene or anything like that. I assumed 291 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: they would try to sweep people out of there as 292 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the curfew hit. Um, but we sort of know what 293 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: happened there as the President Trump planned uh to go 294 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: across the streets of the church, and there was there 295 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: was absolutely just a planned and coordinated effort to to 296 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: clear those streets, to uh to make that pathway possible. 297 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: And UH just uh a really tense situation there between 298 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: the military personnel UH that had gathered. The protests that 299 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I saw were largely peaceful. Obviously, there was some tense 300 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: moments the protesters um staring down the military person know 301 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: all getting in their face, some jeering and taunting. The 302 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: park police, I believe, is saying that they saw instances 303 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: where the protesters provoked the police. I didn't see it. 304 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean, these are murky situations. You never really know, 305 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: uh with what the park police is also saying that 306 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: they didn't use tear gas. Now they said they used 307 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: pepper balls and uh in smoke bombs. I mean, I'll 308 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: tell you, just sort of being in the in the 309 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: crowd there, I don't know how big of a difference 310 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: it would have made. I mean, those things are are powerful, 311 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: explode as loud, loud noises, and they they shoot sparks 312 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: and smoke and they get some people's eyes. People are coughing, 313 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: pouring water into their eyes. UM. But yeah, you just 314 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: gotta hope. I mean, it looks like the protests down 315 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: by the White House. They that it's an additional fencing 316 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: out there by by Lafayette Square Park. Uh. People are 317 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: sort of laying down on the concrete from what I've seen, 318 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: holding signs. Just mean you just gotta hope and pray 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: that it's Uh, it's a peaceful demonstration tonight. And we 320 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: don't we don't see an escalation of what's gone on 321 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: for the last few days. And there's some protests throughout 322 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: the day to day. I mean especially alone Fourteenth Street, 323 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: hundreds of protesters, peaceful protesters, UM protesting. I want to 324 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: read a statement that just came out from former President 325 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: George W. Bush quote, it remains a shocking failure that 326 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: many African Americans, especially young African American men, are harassed 327 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: and threatened in their own country. It is a strength 328 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: when protesters, protected by responsible law enforcement, march for a 329 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: better future. And this statement, the former president goes on 330 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: to say, UM, achieving justice for all is the duty 331 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: of all. This will require a consistent, courageous and creative effort. 332 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: We serve our neighborhoods best when we try to understand 333 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: their experience. Jonathan easily in terms of your reporting, and 334 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: I've been talking with some staffers on both sides of 335 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the aisle over the last few days. In terms of 336 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: what you're hearing, do you think that there's an appetite 337 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: for some type of policy to come out of Washington 338 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: and response to all of this unrest and all of this, 339 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: uh following the killing of George Floyd. Yeah, so, I mean, look, 340 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: the difficult thing here is just sort of parsing the 341 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: different levels that this is playing out on. There's the 342 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: one level which we've seen largely peaceful protests that have 343 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: played out during the daytime, UM for protesters who are 344 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: demanding justice for for George Floyd and want to see 345 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: UH Congress enact laws that will deal with what they 346 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: view is as UH racial discrimination among law enforcement officials 347 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: toward the African American community. Joe Biden obviously left the 348 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Delaware for the first time since the coronavirus lockdown today 349 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: and when gave a speech in Philadelphia, which uh the 350 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: city you know, well, I think Kevin um and obviously 351 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: there it's one of the dozens of cities across the 352 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: country that's been racked by civil unrest over the last 353 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: few days, and he called on Congress to pass some 354 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: laws a banning choke holds that they would prevent, uh, 355 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: that would prevent the military from passing along sort of 356 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: like uh, big big guns and and and military military 357 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: equipment of the police departments. A lot of those reforms, 358 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: a lot of those reforms are being is what the 359 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: a c P wants And so I think, I guess 360 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: what I'm I'm very curious to watch for and report 361 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: on over the next couple of days is to see 362 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: where Republicans, especially Republicans and swing districts, where are they 363 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: going to be on this, I mean, and is something 364 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: going to get done? Uh? And and I mean you 365 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: would think that given all of this unrest, I mean, 366 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: we're talking about a time in which unfortunately, minority communities 367 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: are disproportionately being affected by the effects of the pandemic. 368 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: It's of the seventy of the thirty of US jobs 369 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: that are at risk during this pandemic, seventy percent of 370 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: those are minority groups, according to a Mackensey report. So, 371 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many different economic impacts of 372 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: this right now, in this particular moment um, and if 373 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: they're going to be talking king about reforms, you know, 374 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: it will be very interesting to see where those uh 375 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans. Can they work together to get something done? 376 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan easily my good friend, and of course uh the 377 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: uh one of the senior reporters over at the Hill. 378 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for your reporting and much more. Coming up next, 379 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna pivots to foreign policy. How how is the 380 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: unrest in America being viewed around the world. That's my 381 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: first question to Guy Snodgrass, who joins us next on Bloomberg. 382 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin sirelate on 383 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one O five point seven a m h 384 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: D two. My name is Kevin Cirelli. I'm the chief 385 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and for Bloomberg Radio, and 386 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: we got special continuing coverage all throughout the night, uh 387 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: and into tomorrow morning as the unrest grips the nation. 388 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, I really just I keep giving them props, 389 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: but I really want to keep doing it because Lisa 390 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Brandmo Wits, Jonathan Faroh and of course Tom Keene have 391 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: just been doing I've been learning from their coverage about 392 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: how to cover this because the economic reality on Wall 393 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: Street is just totally totally in stark contrast. From the 394 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: unrest that is going around in the cities. And I 395 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: get it. If you're not in a city, or you're 396 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: not living in a city right now and there aren't 397 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: helicopters flying around you, and you don't see a military 398 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: presence or the National Guard presence, I get it, you know. 399 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: But but for a large portion of Americans who are 400 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: living with curfews right now, six pm curfew local time 401 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, a six pm curfew in l A 402 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: uh and eight pm tonight in New York City, uh, 403 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: and of course seven pm here in the nation's capital. 404 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: It's unprecedented. I mean, they're they're really I don't think 405 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: that's a political or a biased word to use. It's 406 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: it's it's unprecedented. And I'm I've been struck by this 407 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: by how other countries have been, uh using this to 408 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: talk about it. And that's why I'm really grateful for 409 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: my buddy Guy Snodgrass, CEO of Defense Analytics. He's the 410 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: former director of Communications and chief speech writer to Secretary 411 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: of Defense James Maddis. He's also the author of Holding 412 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: the Line Inside President Trump's Pentagon with Secretary Maddis. Guy, 413 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: how are other countries around the world responding to the 414 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: unrest in America, well, I think you know, you you 415 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: look at what has happened over the last several years 416 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: when America looks outward and we're looking at domestic unrest 417 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: in China or domestic unrest in any other nation, well, 418 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: essentially you just flip that around. Right. So, now if 419 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: you are one of those nations and you're peering over 420 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: across the ocean, whether it's the Pacific or Atlantic, and 421 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: you're and you're kind of peering into America's shoreline, and 422 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: you say, wow, there's there's a lot of domestic unrest. 423 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of flashpoints, and they're just obviously they're 424 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: studying there watching some nations, I'm sure long standing allies 425 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: and partners, no doubt standing solidarity with America and would 426 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: like to see you know, that stability return. China has 427 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: been taking to their own social media platforms to to 428 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: use this to compare to the America's criticism of the 429 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Hong Kong of China's response to the Hong Kong protesters, right, 430 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I think there's no surprise here. Every 431 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: nation state will will take what is currently happening, you know, 432 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: current events and want to shape them for their own purposes. 433 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: There were examples where this administration, like you mentioned, did 434 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: this with China with the unrest in Hong Kong. China 435 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: themselves that marshal the large number of military forces at 436 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the border of Hong Kong in order to try and 437 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: tamp down some of the unrest. You know, they never 438 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: really fully employed them, but they were there as a 439 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: intimidating force. Obviously, America has not gone to that kind 440 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: of extreme like China has. That being said, as you noted, 441 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: they can point towards some of the domestic unrest as uh, 442 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of that at two brute right. You know, well, 443 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: if you're put pointing the finger at us, well what 444 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: about you? The good news obviously living in a democracy. Uh, 445 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's a time of unrest right now. As 446 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: we've seen in years and decades past. This two shall pass, 447 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: there will be some resolution, and we'll be moving forward 448 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: once again. What about how in terms of Russia, because 449 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: there's been this issue over the past several days, and 450 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: I want to be very careful in terms of of 451 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: how I've heard this, but the former National Security Advisor 452 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: Susan Rice on CNN on Sunday raise concerns that Russia 453 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: or another hostile foreign bad actor was somehow perpetuating some 454 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: of the not the protests, but the violent elements and 455 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: the looting elements of these protests. I'm very curious guy 456 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: for your for your take on that. Well, I don't 457 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: have the I guess the insights that Susan may have 458 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: with regards to whether or not, you know, foreign powers 459 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: are directly fomenting you know, actual violence. Um, we have 460 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: seen in years past, the intelligence community has proved on 461 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: numerous occasions that Russia in particular, as a state actor, 462 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: has been very active within the borders of the United 463 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: States and looking to uh, you know, stir up trouble 464 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: using social media accounts, trying to amplify any kind of 465 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: anst and the and the reality here is that that's 466 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: not a surprise. If America has long been seen as 467 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: incredibly screw moment on the international stage, if you can 468 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: distract us here domestically, if you can get us looking 469 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: inwardly and losing our focus on that international stage, I 470 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: think that you have to ask yourself who does that benefit? 471 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: Certainly have benefits Russia and benefits Kinda and others in 472 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: the middle of all of this, the pandemic is still happening. 473 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how what have you been gathering in terms 474 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: of the conversations that you're having with with your world 475 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: around the world, in terms of are there any potential 476 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: areas where COVID nineteen and the pandemic has really up 477 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: ended society in a particular hostile region. Well, I think 478 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting because, like I said, everyone's been 479 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: focused domestically, and I think a lot of times that 480 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: human nature for any nation. Japan had a uh An 481 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: outbreak and then they thought they were passed it, they 482 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: started to have a flash, they focused inward. That's happening 483 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of nations. I think the one nation, 484 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: of course, we always want to keep an eye on, 485 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: as you've already mentioned in this segment, is China. They 486 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: have a noted desire to want to not only distract America, 487 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: but then also when other nations are maybe at a 488 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: at a point where there's a pressure that can be applied, 489 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: they'd like to jump in and kind of skill that void, 490 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: whether it's with soft soft power, by offering support, offering help. 491 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: This was something they did with fairly good success with Italy, 492 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: where they Italy, of course, had been one of the 493 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: epicenters early on of the outbreak of coronavirus. China had 494 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: offered support, made a big show of coming back to 495 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: Italy's aid, and they tied it to aid that Italy 496 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: provided to China a decade before. So certainly nations and 497 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: in various hotspots throughout the world, we'll be keeping an 498 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: eye on this four weeks and months to come. But 499 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I do want to go back one one step, and 500 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: that's just with the domestic unrest. And I think you 501 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: know something we should probably dig a little deeper into 502 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: is just the use of the U. S. Military. Yeah, 503 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean that that's something that's definitely caught my ear 504 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of my friends still in uniform or 505 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: or very concerned about that. So let's talk about that. 506 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, so for the Pentagon has distanced itself, has 507 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: distance it's leaders from Presidents Trump's use from has it 508 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: in Trump's threats to use the military on protesters. What 509 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: do we know about that? Well, I think you gotta 510 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: take one step back, right, So yesterday you had this, 511 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you could say it's a powerful optic, 512 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: you had General Milly, the chairman of the Joint chiefs 513 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: of Staff there with President Trump when he had gone 514 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: to the church to hold the Bible aloft. But General 515 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Milly was wearing fatigues, right, so he's wearing his camouflage uniform, 516 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: and that kind of sent a very strong signal that, 517 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: as the President has said in the past, that kind 518 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: of were war, We're in a conflict. This is something 519 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: that you need overwhelming power to overcome. And of course, 520 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: the immediate challenges this is this is a domestic situation. 521 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: It's domestic unrest. This is not a conflict against an 522 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: external aggressor someone you need to, as we just said, overcome. 523 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: The other one was that there was quite a bit 524 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: of news made when Secretary of Defense Mark Esper had 525 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: been recorded on a phone call that President Trump was 526 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: having with the governors about the fact that they needed 527 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: to use overwhelming power to basically kind of overrun and 528 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: end these protests and these demonstrations. And again, I think 529 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: that the biggest danger, and this is something that we've 530 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: talked about because I exported my book, and that's just 531 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: the over politicization of the military. You're dragon the military 532 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: into a very politically charged moment in time, and the 533 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: big danger is that the military has enjoyed, has long 534 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: enjoyed for decades, the trust and confidence of the American public, 535 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: and by bringing them in to this kind of a situation, 536 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: you risk is not only eroting that trust, but you 537 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: certainly risk having the military be seen as as a 538 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: tool that can be used against its own population, which 539 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: of course is not the right course of action. I mean, 540 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: just hearing you say that, guy, it's it's you know, 541 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: I just want to let that sink in. So what 542 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: what would you advise the next steps be over the 543 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 1: next over the next hour and a half, you know, 544 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: as we're as we're an hour and a half away 545 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: from the next round of curfews. Sure, so, I think, honestly, 546 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: and transparency for any leader, regardless of who you're talking about, 547 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: whether it's at the national or the state of the 548 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: local level level, honesty, transparency, consistency or incredibly important tools. 549 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: And one of the things that really as a leader, 550 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: as a senior leader, you want is to build that 551 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: rapport with the citizens that you lead, and you do 552 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: that through by building trust, and you build that through honesty. 553 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: And so you know, for example, there had been some 554 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: inks bill that President Trump was threatening to federalize the 555 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: National Guard to then distribute them around the country at hotspots, 556 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: and that would allow him to retake the situation. Of course, 557 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: that's that's We're nowhere near that kind of a situation. 558 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: So you don't want to threaten that kind of action 559 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: without actually expecting to use it. All right, guys, Nora 560 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: CEO of Defense Analytics, former director of Communications and sider 561 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Madie, thank you. I appreciate your time. 562 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: Coming up, we're check in with al Mada. I'm Kevin Surreally, 563 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg one. This is Bloomberg Sound On 564 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: with Kevin on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven 565 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: m h D two from Kevin Surly, chief Washington correspondent 566 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: for Remember of Television and from Bloomberg Radio. Lots to 567 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: get through. In terms of the race, Joe Biden delivered 568 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: a speech in Philadelphia earlier today talking about the racial 569 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: unrest in America. He said, quote, I will not traffic 570 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: in fear and division. I won't fan the flames of hate. 571 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: He went on to say that I'll seek to heal 572 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: the racial wounds that have long plagued our country, not 573 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: use them for political gain. I'll do my job, and 574 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: I'll take my and I'll take responsibility. I won't blame 575 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: others joining us on the line Al monitor Al is 576 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: a democratic strategist and a partner at Brown Steing, Hyatt, 577 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Farber and shrek Al First of all, thanks for joining us. 578 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: How are you? How's the fam? Kevin great? How are 579 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: you doing? I hope everybody's okay. Yeah, I can't complain. Okay, 580 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: So Biden deliver this speech, and I mean, is this 581 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: Obviously it's going to play well to Democrats in the base, 582 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: and President Trump's comments are going to play well with 583 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: his base. But combide and went over independence with that speech. 584 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Well if he if he can't learn a lot of trouble, 585 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: because I thought he offered the type of leadership, the 586 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: calm and comforting that people expect from their presidents and 587 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: times of these like these, And um, I was very 588 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: heartened by what he had to say. Frankly, you know, 589 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: he he gave the kind of talk that President Obama 590 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: would have given, that President Clinton would have given. And 591 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: it was great to hear. It was great to see 592 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: him out of his basement, standing on the stage addressing 593 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: the nation as he would were he to be president 594 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: and offer hope and aspiration, um and humility. That's what 595 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: we expect that of our leaders. Okay. In terms of 596 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: the policy, I mean you know this. You have conversation 597 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: with senators and lawmakers all the time in terms of 598 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: an actual policy or some type of reform measure to 599 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: come out of this. Do you think there's an appetite 600 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: for that at this particular time. If there ever were 601 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: to be, it would be now, he called. The Vice 602 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: President called today for a policy against chokeles by police. 603 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: Senator Kamala Harris called has called for a national policy 604 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: on police. The Congressional Black Caucus has a series of proposals, 605 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: including considering whether to rid um police the protection of 606 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: qualified immunity, which is an exceedingly enhanced legal protection that 607 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: makes it very difficult to charge police officers even when 608 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: they commit what anyone else would be considered to be 609 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: a crime. So I do think there is an appetite. 610 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: You look at CEOs like Randall Stevenson, the head of 611 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: a T and T, calling upon his fellow CEO colleagues 612 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: to step in and advance the cause of justice. So 613 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: I actually optimistic that maybe we can get something done, 614 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: particularly if the vice president wins the election. Well, I'm 615 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: really glad you brought up Randall Stevenson and CEOs. What 616 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: can businesses and CEOs do in this time to to 617 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: be a positive change agent? Well, you know, usually CEOs 618 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: are when it comes to race, are being criticized for 619 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: not hiring enough people of color. So to have a 620 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: CEO of one of the largest companies in America saying 621 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: that we need to be doing more for justice, that's 622 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: exceedingly positive and cause or optimism. I also think that 623 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: they're stepping in, both he and others who are talking 624 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: like this to the vacuum created by President Trump's inability 625 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: to lead. It's nice that he can talk about law 626 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: and order and he can say there shouldn't be violence. Well, 627 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: everybody agrees there shouldn't be violence, but that's the that's 628 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: the extent of his leadership. In other words, there's nothing else. 629 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: And so that's where you see people like Stevenson say, wait, 630 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: we can do more warm we want to be part 631 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: of the solution. Al manors on the line. He's a 632 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: democratic strategist. He uh is also a partner at Brownstein Hyatt, 633 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: Farber and Shrek And we're talking about Senator Kamala Harris, 634 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: you mentioned, uh think proposals that she has called for. 635 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Is she the front runner in terms of the in 636 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: terms of Biden's vice presidential pick. I don't know. I 637 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: think the conventional wisdom is that she might be the 638 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: front runner, but that matters little in these things. You know, 639 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a very visceral politician. He wears his 640 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: heart on his sleeve, and I think in these times 641 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. But he's going to pick somebody 642 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: who he feels simpatico with emotionally and viscerally in his gut. 643 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Is that Senator Harris? I don't know, maybe, um, but 644 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: but I think the process is going to be particularly 645 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: personal for him, more so than has been for some 646 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: other candidates when they've made the selection, and so I 647 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: think he's going to take a long time doing this. 648 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: There are a lot of great candidates women that he's considering, 649 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: something that we didn't even know he was considering, that 650 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: he's interviewed or talked to, or his staff and talked to. 651 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: And I think that in the end it's gonna be 652 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: someone that he really really feels comfortable with as a partner. 653 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Do you think when does he have to make that 654 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: decision by What is the timeline and the time table 655 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: for Biden to to make his vice presidential pick. Well, 656 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: he said publicly he's going to do it by August one, 657 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of time between now. It was 658 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: like two months. I want to know when, I want 659 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: to know the time. I want to wear on all 660 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: of it. Well, usually it's not announced until after the convention, 661 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: until the convention comes, so you know, I wouldn't um, 662 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about it. In terms of timing, I 663 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: think it'll be um. It'll be by Dana July at 664 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: the beginning of August. The convention isn't until um isn't 665 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: until the middle of August, so he's got plenty of time. 666 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: What's the risk right now? Al matter for the Biden 667 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: campaign in dealing with this national unrust. So much of 668 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: the attention has has rightfully been focused on on the 669 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: leaders who are elected in office now and what they 670 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: are doing or what they are not doing. But what 671 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: is the risk in terms of being the standard bearer 672 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party? What is his risk as this 673 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: unrest continues? You know, I think it's an opportunity I 674 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: don't see it as a risk. Kevin. I think he's 675 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: um uniquely sooner for this because he he is so visceral, 676 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: and he is such a healer, and he is a comforter. 677 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: And frankly, his age is a benefit too, because he 678 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: comes across, you know, like the grandfather in chief. You know, 679 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: obviously there's a risk or anybody engages in these types 680 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: of issues, But I'm not really too worried about um 681 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: his administering uh more a leadership in these times. That 682 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: he watched his speech this morning, he was spectacular. I 683 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: thought he nailed it all right. Anderson, the last couple 684 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: of minutes, two minutes that we have left, I just 685 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: want to get your take on terms of an appetite 686 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: for another round of economic stimulus. What are you hearing 687 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: in terms of another round of economic stimulus and when 688 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: might that happen. I think we're likely to see another 689 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: chairs legislative package comes through at the end of June. 690 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: Um it's likely that they'll be Bi Parson support for it. 691 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: And Um you know, look, we've got forty five million 692 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: people are unemployed. We're gonna have fifty million people unemployed. 693 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: Sorry that my dog is run into the room making. Hey, 694 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: what's the dog's name. What's the dog's name? His name 695 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: is Cooper. All right, Cooper, go ahead, you made your 696 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: sound on Bloomberg Radio debut. Go ahead, So go ahead. 697 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna have you know, we're gonna have so many 698 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: people unemployed. The most is the Great Depression. And if 699 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: we don't have a Stimilus package, now, when are we 700 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: gonna have one? And I'm very optimistic that by the 701 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 1: end of June, members of Congress will come together on something. 702 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: It won't be as perhaps as sweeping as the uh 703 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: set of led the slave initiatives. But look, you've got 704 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: Fedshare Pale saying we need more. You've got Secretary Manuts 705 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: and sat Congress needs to do more. And I think 706 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: Leader McConnell and Speaker Polos you both recognize the urgency. 707 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: It's not going to be the House bill and full, 708 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: but there will be um, there will be something that 709 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: comes to the Congress. I think in the next three 710 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: to five weeks. That's pretty significant. Alright, al modern democratic 711 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: strategist and a partner h Brown, seeing Hyatt, Farber and Shrek, 712 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: thanks for checking in with us, and go go out, 713 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: take care. Cooper, all right, al I will take care 714 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: all right, and remember, folks, you can follow all of 715 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: the latest on the pandemic, on the economy reopening, and 716 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: of course on all the unrest throughout the country cross channel, 717 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Television and on Bloomberg Radio. 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