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Speaker 3: This is our life, this.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 4: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat.

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Speaker 2: Tag fired up for this Friday morning morning combat back

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Speaker 2: at it. It is Friday, October thirtieth, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: That's mischief time from.

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Speaker 2: Big Beige Brian Campbell, sitting across from the cake to

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Speaker 2: my urinal right right, I mean right right, But but if.

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Speaker 1: You were if you were bege Brian big bays, Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: this triple.

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Speaker 2: B the sperm to my whale, the dick to my tation.

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Speaker 5: There's no such thing.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 4: Luke Thomas aman a big man.

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Speaker 5: All right, how are you folks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, we got a big show for you today.

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Speaker 2: It's been a fun week somewhere in the swampsa Jersey

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Speaker 4: It was orchids of combat.

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Speaker 1: No one's ever called it that except you, and you're

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Speaker 2: It does get a little handsy, a little sticky in

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Speaker 2: these parts. A big show today because it's a big

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Speaker 2: loaded weekend in the combat sports game. We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: deep inside the matchups. Jervonte Davis, Leo Santa Cruz, Anderson Silva.

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Speaker 4: You're Riah Hall. Look back on the bellatur night.

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Speaker 2: That was Thursday night at two fifty middleweight title on

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Speaker 2: the line, all that and then some tall, pale and

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Speaker 4: The host chair.

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Speaker 2: You know today, Luke del and I know how hard

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Speaker 1: Yes, just everyone knows. It was my idea so that

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Speaker 1: proven to be true. Second of all, cameraman, can you

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's always been my dream.

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Speaker 4: We're doing a lot of big stuff here.

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Speaker 2: They're filming a documentary about our return to this spot

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Speaker 2: right here about pretty excited and although we we ghosted

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Speaker 2: It's time to get into the show, Luke, unless you

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Speaker 2: that hit out of nowhere yesterday, less than one full

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Speaker 6: I was you know, I wasn't. I was sitting there going,

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Speaker 6: Hobive and I have been talking, and you know, he

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Speaker 3: So you think he's going to be coming back, is

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. I think I think that he's not

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Speaker 7: Going into the fight, there was this talk of you

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Speaker 7: Special now since we thought those plans were gonna happen,

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Speaker 7: Well, do you want me to relay the message to them?

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Speaker 7: I'm sure I can get in contact with him.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you're the best, always looking out for me, Luke.

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Speaker 4: The news is this.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even hesitate when be retired to open up

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Speaker 2: Is this promoter speaker? Do you think there's something to this?

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Speaker 1: So the quote for folks who may have heard us

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Speaker 1: They haven't had that Jake Hager phoner. But Habib seemed

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Speaker 1: does that mean right away? I mean, even Saint Pierre

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Speaker 1: If these guys aren't actually done and they say they're done,

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Speaker 1: then you know, enough of this nonsense. Let them just

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Speaker 1: there might be a year or two break.

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Speaker 5: That's the only part about it that I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll less than a week into this, So we

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Speaker 2: do need Habibi to take a long walk, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: and maybe Dana not share everything from the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But this does open the door back up.

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Speaker 2: And look, at the end of the day, would I

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Speaker 2: legacy and finding out how Grady can be rather than

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Speaker 2: him go away? Of course, but I want him to

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Speaker 2: do it on his own terms, and I want it

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Speaker 2: to be well, here's my question about this, if he's

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Speaker 2: Zach to say, it's not going to be for a

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Speaker 2: to do Connor versus Poorier the rematch and put the

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Speaker 2: vacant title at stake. You the quicker, you can the

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Speaker 2: If it was the WBC, we'd already have a regular,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is, as a promoter, isn't your job to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I didn't put my lips to it.

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Speaker 5: It's fine. I don't care if he did. I would

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Speaker 4: It in as because the orange one's mind.

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Speaker 1: We already knew that, all right, right, point being is

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Speaker 2: It's really like, you need a chail, you need a

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Speaker 1: Willing to cut corners. You know, you need a guy

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Speaker 1: it's just part of what a promoter does. A promoter

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Speaker 5: So did he do it?

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Speaker 1: Maybe? Either way?

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Speaker 5: I don't really care.

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Speaker 2: Spend a lot of time together in the last few days,

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Speaker 1: Know, based on what.

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Speaker 4: Based on a few things. All right, Hey, let's move

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Speaker 2: Staying in the UFC and looking at the welterweight picture

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Speaker 2: A lot of people had a sub sat Hey, you

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Speaker 4: Here's the first half of this story.

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Speaker 2: Leon Edwards got dropped midweek of this week from the

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Speaker 4: What the hell's really going on here?

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to have righteous indignation about this. How could

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna stay active, We'll fucking take you out

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Woodley would have been a excuse

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it pushes him in the

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Speaker 4: And I don't think he loses taking that fight. I

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think he What would he gain

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Speaker 1: You beat a guy he is. He is Chamaiah.

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Speaker 2: Ranked no, but he's so hot right now. I don't

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Speaker 2: That seems to be do not pass, go go straight

439
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,120
Speaker 2: to the title shot right.

440
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,200
Speaker 5: No, they're not going to give you a title shot

441
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 5: off of that.

442
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,280
Speaker 1: Please, you're telling really they're going to give him a

443
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,639
Speaker 1: title shot ahead of Colby. I don't believe that. I

444
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,639
Speaker 1: don't believe that for two seconds. Leon Edwards no chance.

445
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,880
Speaker 1: Let's see currently sitting at middleweight or welterweight, is Chamaya

446
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 1: have ranked? Not that I see? No, he is unranked,

447
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,080
Speaker 1: So what the fuck good does it do? Now?

448
00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 4: Granted I get you, he gets their attention.

449
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 1: Certainly, of all the unranked guys you could possibly give him,

450
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 1: this is the best one in terms of what it

451
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 1: could do for him. And here we are talking out

452
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 1: about Leon Edwards and we normally don't. Still the idea

453
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,479
Speaker 1: here is if if Kamzat beats him, which I think

454
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 1: is their expectation. Now what is he win? He might

455
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 1: make the other one look bad in the process. So

456
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 1: you took on an unranked guy, you lost, You're gonna

457
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: get dropped in the rankings, not completely, but it's gonna

458
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:18,720
Speaker 1: hurt your.

459
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 5: Stock, let's say.

460
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 1: And now Chamaiah gets to scoot right into the top

461
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 1: three as a result.

462
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: The vision is crowded enough at the top that he's

463
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 2: not going to get the title shot at Leon anytime soon.

464
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:29,679
Speaker 4: You're just not.

465
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to do the Max Holloway long game

466
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 2: and hope you know, eventually the door opens up.

467
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 4: So make that door open, kick that shit in.

468
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 2: And if you are elite and you are a title

469
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 2: prospect and contender, then you maybe should go in there

470
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 2: and be Jamaia.

471
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,360
Speaker 4: All right, So sometimes you.

472
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: Got as you just defending promoter strength over their fight.

473
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 2: No, this is me telling Leon Edwards that it's it's

474
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 2: not your fault necessarily, but you've been painted, You've got

475
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: the scarlet letter off.

476
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: So what about that? Bec Do you think Leon should

477
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: have been more accepting of other opportunities?

478
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you should have. I wonder boy, I'm

479
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: in on that. Staying on this comzat Chamaiev who will

480
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: be his big fight. You know, we've heard everything from

481
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 2: Maya rumored to Chris Widman wanting involvement. We know that

482
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 2: Mike Perry, Robbie Lawler intriguing, potentially washed on washed welterweight

483
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: fight is now off.

484
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 4: It looks like Lawler pulling out with something.

485
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

486
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: You haven't pulled out if you did a decade or two.

487
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 2: But uh, you know where I'm going with that. Interesting

488
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 2: enough though, and we don't We don't get Coach Litori's

489
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: quote on this. Mike Perry wants as a replacement Kamza Chamayahv. Look,

490
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 2: you could make any number of Tamaiah fight here for

491
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: his next one, because it's gonna be a big one, because.

492
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 4: He's ready to burst.

493
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 2: You can you can give him a legitimate contender like

494
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: an Edwards, or you can give him a guy you

495
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: can look great against. Or you can give him someone

496
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: who's batshit crazy like Mike Perry that can make fun fights.

497
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 4: Would you book this?

498
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: I like Perry versus Chamayahv a lot more than I

499
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,719
Speaker 1: like Edwards versus TREMAIAV. Yeah. I love that fight because

500
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: listen Comsatamayah. Every time he shows you something, it's very impressive.

501
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: But here we have a case where who is the

502
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: guy who put the dead animal in his head last

503
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: week from Kazakhstan? Uh Rockmanov?

504
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 2: Was his name, right, Bortzagdiev. No, who's the other one

505
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 2: who was.

506
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: A great weekend from Kazakhstan Rockmanov? The guy who beat

507
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 1: cowboy Olivera. Yes, here comes a guy that no one, well,

508
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: okay hardcourse, have heard of. But no standard UFC fan

509
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: has heard of that guy. Rochmanov has already got a

510
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: better win against a higher caliber opponent than anyone calms

511
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: out Chamaiev has fought, and there's no discussion about that. Now.

512
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's because he's better than Shamaiav r.

513
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 5: And it's nonsense.

514
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm simply pointing out for all the interesting things that

515
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: Chamaiav has done. Man, you've got a lot of work

516
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: in front of you before you should be fighting people

517
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: in the top five. I'm with you, Mike Perry. For

518
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: an unranked walterweight, is it Yodapple.

519
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 4: He's got sneaky grass.

520
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: Strong as balls, he's got a heavy punch. I love

521
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: that fight. Actually, I love that fight a lot, make

522
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: it all right.

523
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: I'd love to be the third quarterman for that.

524
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: I would love, oh my god, if I could get

525
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: in that dynamic as long as as long as he

526
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: he'll you know, forgive me and welcome me back in

527
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: and you know I'll carry you.

528
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: Would you slap him and do the teddy out?

529
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: Do you believe in ghost? Can I tell you? Uh no,

530
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: you know, I'd carry the bucket for Littoria. I'd really

531
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: I'd be the third I'd be the I'd be the

532
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: sauce to their meat in a lot of ways.

533
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 5: You think you're the sauce for some reason.

534
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

535
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: All Hey, let's roll on here, Luke.

536
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: Look.

537
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 4: Thursday night was Belachoor two fifty.

538
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 2: We hepped it up big because on paper, great matchup

539
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: vacant middleweight title, former champion gay Guard Musasi current welterweight

540
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: champion Douglas Lima. The theme was that the smaller man,

541
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: the red hot man, was daring to be great, but

542
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: Musas succeeded in the end via unanimous decision of removing

543
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: the potential excitement from the fight by relying on his

544
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: smarts and yes, even though the size was close come

545
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: fight night, really being the bigger fighter and acting that out,

546
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: using the first round to dominate with his wrestling to

547
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: get a clear, seemingly clear decision in which, yes, some

548
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: leg strikes late from Lima. But is this a Musace

549
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: night or a night in which the great Douglas Lima

550
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: just failed to impress, failed to do enough on a

551
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: big stage.

552
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: Douglas Lima looks to me like a guy who isn't

553
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: sure that he's as great as even we think he is, right.

554
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got this situation where he'll lose to somebody,

555
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: come back a second time, like he lost to Koreshkov once,

556
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: came back a second time, and then even the third time.

557
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: Lost to Rory by a finger.

558
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: And then came back and then beat him pretty pretty soundly.

559
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: It's like he has to see like, oh wait, I

560
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: do belong, But by the time he makes that decision,

561
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: it's just too late the first time around. So like,

562
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: if they rebooked this fight a year from now, I

563
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: might honestly take Lima that time around, because here's the

564
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: thing about it.

565
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 2: I figured something out in the fifth round, right when

566
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: he came on.

567
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 1: Even in the fourth round, I thought you could make

568
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: the case that he won that run. I mean, here's

569
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 1: the thing about it. It's like, for as much as

570
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: you want to beat up on Lima for being like,

571
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: why didn't you do more? You know, earlier on when

572
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: you could have, But I also think BC we didn't

573
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: talk about this last night we watched the fight together,

574
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I think the reverse is kind of true. You could say, Tousaci, dude,

575
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: that you didn't do much at the end of that

576
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: fight either. Well was as hesitant, but like he was

577
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: hesitant enough where the major problem.

578
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 5: With that fight? I think you would agree it was

579
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 5: super underwhelming.

580
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, it was super technical in a lot of ways too,

581
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: And I think you.

582
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Can be technical and be great.

583
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: You have put a couple of things.

584
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: On the table that I think are true that conspire

585
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: together in this. In the end, Lima start both started

586
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: too late and didn't do enough. He also was gassed

587
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: in round two, probably for a big reason because he

588
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: was on his back for most of round one, fighting

589
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: off wrestling, fighting off submission attempts that I thought Lima

590
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: surprised himself at being a little bit too winded from

591
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: having to deal with a bigger man. In that sense,

592
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: he regulated his gas tank enough to have enough for

593
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: that fifth round flurry. Now in the fifth round he

594
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: figured some things out leg kicks. It looked like Musaci

595
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: was one more big kick away from from crumbling. Yet

596
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: that moment that he absorbed that last kick, he goes

597
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: right in for the takedown.

598
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: Which is kind of what Kabib did.

599
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: As soon as it looked like Justin Gatchee was one

600
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: kick away from really giving him a problem, went right

601
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: into that finishing mode that we talked about and finished

602
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: the fight. When Musasi went into the finishing mode of

603
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: keeping him away.

604
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: And down and leaning on him the bigger man. Musas didn't.

605
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: He didn't jump off the screen and impress, but in

606
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: a veteran way, he leaned on his advantages did exactly

607
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: what he had to do. I think the story is

608
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: a little bit bigger that maybe do you agree maybe

609
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: to the agreeing to your point that Lima doesn't even

610
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 2: realize how great he is. Had he started in round

611
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: two or three with that much output, you know, he

612
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: probably wins that fight.

613
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: I think Lima is a slow starter. He's got a

614
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: little bit that cowboy serony in him. But there's there

615
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: must be some kind of confidence issue because when he

616
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: decided to just be more. He didn't like what was

617
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: the difference between rounds three and rounds four, aside from

618
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: the uptick in volume, Like, was there some dramatic shift?

619
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: I think in round three Lima finally started letting that

620
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: right hand go and he found that he can land

621
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: it right.

622
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, was there a major tactical shift.

623
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Was there some kind of like, oh steep A can

624
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: land body shots with the left on DC kind of

625
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: eureka moment? Not really, he just did more. He just

626
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: did more in the end. And so it's like, dude,

627
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: if you had done that earlier, like this would have

628
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: been a totally different fight. I do think that size

629
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: came into play a little bit at least in the

630
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: head maybe, so to speak of Lima, where you had

631
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: Musasi come out first round, really take it to him

632
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: in the wrestling and sort of grappling department, didn't land

633
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: a whole lot from a tremendous like shot standpoint, but

634
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 1: really was able to get the job done in that regard.

635
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: And then you know, it just looked to me like,

636
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: was there a massive size difference between the two? No?

637
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: Not really. In fact, it was pretty small in ways,

638
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: but that imposition early I think got in Douglas Lima's

639
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: head and I think that worked.

640
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 5: That's a pretty smart play from Musasi.

641
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: And the other part of Musasi is those leg kicks

642
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: from Lima are deadly on any weight class, I would say,

643
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: but Musasi just looks to me like the guy who

644
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: he's taken shots from heavyweights like Noueless. Lima can hurt him,

645
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: of course, but you know when you've seen that kind

646
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: of firepower. Even though he was hesitant tactically towards the end,

647
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: I just don't think he was phased.

648
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 5: Here's my only question. At UBC.

649
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: Musasi came into the Belt organization from UFC maybe at

650
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: his all time Peaka and when at the end of

651
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: the USC five.

652
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: Straight wins in UFC to close it, and those last

653
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: four were like what it was like Wideman, Country, Rago,

654
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: Santos all four by stoppage by the way, yeah, Vitor

655
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: belfour and I forgot.

656
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Speaker 1: The fourth one, okay. But he was on a super

657
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: high sense going to Belt or he got the gift

658
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: against slamenco H. He had the win against Machida. I

659
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: think he had the win against Carvaglio. He had the

660
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: win over Rory uh and now the win over Lima and.

661
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: The lost of Levado Raffi Levado.

662
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: Okay, but here's the point. It's like, you beat two welterweights,

663
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: and you beat Carvaglio, who I'm not even sure was

664
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Speaker 1: with the organization anymore. You should have lost to Schlamenco

665
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: actually Meenko winning that one, and then you had the

666
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: lost of Levata, who's not.

667
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 5: In the sporting more.

668
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: Obviously from a different situation is he where's Musasi in

669
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: his career.

670
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: I think he's he's leveling off to a degree, meaning

671
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, he's not the same, but he's against a

672
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: world class guy. He leaned on exactly what he needed

673
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: to do. He still got enough in the tank to

674
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: win these kind of fights. The thing is, though, unfortunately

675
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: that because Lima didn't do enough, it almost takes away

676
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: from that this was a really good win for Musasi.

677
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: He doesn't really get much credit.

678
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: You know, if Lima had won this, we're like doubling

679
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: down on how great he might be. He might be

680
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: in your top ten pound for pound worldwide. He might

681
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: be this future thing. And I think Musasi just gets

682
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: a move the chains win. In the end, it doesn't

683
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: do much for him legacy wise, outside of getting the

684
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: Bellatore middleweight title back on his waist for a second time.

685
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: But again he didn't have to go through Lovado, the

686
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: guy that beat him to do it. So it was

687
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: another night where we tipped the cap. Though at a

688
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: great veteran and Musasi has had fifty seven pro fights

689
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: a seventeen year career, won titles in various organizations.

690
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: To me, though, at this point before he would win

691
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: on overwhelming dominance of force through skill. Now, to me,

692
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: he's winning much more on smarts, which which is require

693
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: him to be a little like that. But she'd a

694
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: fight he was super risk averse and even said it

695
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: in the end. He's like, I had to be, I

696
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: had to be. He said the exact same thing at

697
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: the end of this fight. He's dialing back his offense

698
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: a little bit to be more judicious with it, and

699
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: it has made him less exciting, but he's still able

700
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Speaker 1: to win at a pretty high level.

701
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: Al Right, if you are Musasi, are you moving up

702
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: to two five to challenge for dem Nemkov?

703
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Fuck?

704
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: No, No, he.

705
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: Hasn't fought at heavyweight now for something like six or

706
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: seven fights.

707
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: No, dude, Nemkov, don't fuck with that guy. Yeah, Cory

708
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Anderson wants that smoke if he gets past Manhoff.

709
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, how about this?

710
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: How about this?

711
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: How about thirty five year old Musasi going back to

712
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: heavyweight to fight Bader.

713
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: Do you like that?

714
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 7: No?

715
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: Fuck?

716
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: No? Yeah no no, stay stay at one.

717
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: So no more walterweight's coming up, no more moving up.

718
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: There to be great to stay in your lane at Medell.

719
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, how many walterweights can you fight before someone

720
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: starts saying something? I mean, come on, two in his

721
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: last three fights. I mean that's enough.

722
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, Jay Kaeger, the aw Pro Wrestling

723
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: start your favorite. He seemed to find his match on

724
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: Thursday night.

725
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: There you who was asking me like, why hasn't belt

726
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: or pushed him harder?

727
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: I think we found the answer.

728
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: So he hangs on for a disputed decision in which

730
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: is kind of got his ass kicked.

731
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: Brandon Colton, I believe.

732
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: Was the name of the guy Colton.

733
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Yet he didn't look as much like he came right

734
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: from the meat factory as some of Hagar's earlier opponents.

735
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: But Hager got a questionable win.

736
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: Scott Coker did say afterwards he was impressed, Luke, I

737
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: guess impressed by the dog fight that Hagar was willing

738
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Speaker 2: to go through. I'm I'm going to tell you without

739
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: really knowing, I'm sure he wasn't that rock hard with

740
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: emotion after that fight. He hung on, probably not going

741
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: to see him against Baita anytime soon, but he.

742
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: Was probably swollen and throbbing, but from the injuries.

743
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that it did show toughness this erection. Shout out

744
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: to Haig's there. That'll wrap up your bellatour two fifty.

745
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Unfortunately some of those fights fell apart last minute due

746
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: to COVID there.

747
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, they had a bunch of dogs to get COVID.

748
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: Let's hit the weekend this Saturday.

749
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Of course, in addition to the showtime pay per view

750
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: that we will hit in a second, you do have

751
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: that UFC Fight Night card which is very intriguing. A

752
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: middleweight main event from Las Vegas, Euryah Hall versus Anderson Silva.

753
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: What is being billed as for the final time now, Luke,

754
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: we went to a deep dive Wednesday about Silva's great career,

755
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: about the legacy and impact and really about that interview

756
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: he had with Canadian star Ariil Hawani where you really

757
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: came out saying, you know, I'm not sure he's done.

758
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: You know, whether UFC ends up giving him one more

759
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: to complete the contract or he can get out of

760
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: the deal.

761
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: Now, not really sure.

762
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: He still wants to fight, but we don't know if

763
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: that's still going to be the case after Saturday. He's

764
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: got to potentially win this and maybe he needs to

765
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: look good.

766
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: Let me ask you that, Luke.

767
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: We know the number one in six with one no

768
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: contest in the last seven years, that's Anderson Silva in

769
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: the UFC octagon. Does he need to beat Euryah Hall

770
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: to have any chance at continuing for of us to

771
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: want him to continue.

772
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: I think if you went to Bellatore, they would just

773
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: reframe it and use that as a refreshing moment for

774
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: his career, in which case he would not necessarily need

775
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: to win. I mean, here's the part about it. It's like,

776
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: let's say he does beat Uriah Hall, who's, by the way.

777
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 5: A credible competitor.

778
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't mean to suggest that he's not by saying

779
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: what I'm about to say, but it's like, given what

780
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Silva has already accomplished, it is. It is a nice

781
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: to think that this late in his forties he can

782
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: still get wins against you know, ranked or respected opposition.

783
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: But you know, his best days and what he accomplished

784
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: a are not merely far behind us. They're at such a

785
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: different level that beating someone like Hall, while impressive, it

786
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: doesn't meaningfully add to his resume at this point. It

787
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: doesn't really. It's not one of the it's not one

788
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: of the other impressive feats you can stack along with

789
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: the other ones that are already there. It's sort of

790
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: different at the stage it's it's it's nice to see,

791
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: but it's not majorly impactful, and so so I don't

792
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: know that it would really change a whole lot, especially

793
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: if he wants to go to Belt or if he

794
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: wants to stick around UFC. I don't even know if

795
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: they want them with a loss at that point. I mean,

796
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: that's again to bj Penn level.

797
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: I've heard Jana in interviews.

798
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: It sounds to me, even though Anderson told the Ariel

799
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: that Dana did not ask him to retire, it sounds

800
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: to me like Dana framed this on purpose because he

801
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: wants him out. He doesn't want him to have an

802
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: unhappy ending. I mean, he's already like you said, one

803
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: into like I said, one in six in the last

804
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 2: eight fights.

805
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: I just wonder what we're gonna see out of him.

806
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: And this is something you and I talked about on

807
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ this morning that I think is key.

808
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: The lack of a crowd hasn't really affected too many

809
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: of the fighters in this wild twenty twenty and the

810
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: crazy quarantine, but Anderson so fuels himself off of the

811
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: crowd in general and the adoration in love for his fans.

812
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 2: And yes, you'll offer journalists a chance to bring their

813
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: significant other to roll around in a workout ahead of

814
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: time there. He loves people. He loves performing for people.

815
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: If there ain't no people, which there's not going to

816
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 2: be at the UFCAPEX, I don't know if he's going

817
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: to or be able to rally the same spirit that

818
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: we saw in him against Israelata Soignia a couple fights

819
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: back where he knew it was a massive opportunity. He

820
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: also knew he didn't want to look bad and get

821
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: sent to hell, so he gave everything that he had

822
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: left and it was a pretty fair effort and a loss.

823
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna get out of Silva

824
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: because you made an interesting characterization this morning on HQ.

825
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: You're not sure you see a guy in Silva who's

826
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: trying to win fights.

827
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: Over the last six seven years.

828
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: And look at the Bisping fight might be a perfect example.

829
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: A you're asking a veteran to go five hard rounds.

830
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: But that was a fight to try to get Silva

831
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: back in the title picture. And even though I think

832
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: we can argue two things that maybe he should have

833
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: won as it was on the scorecards, and then you

834
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: can argue that fight could have been stopped when he

835
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: hit Bisping with the flying need to end round three.

836
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: But what I saw the rest of that fight was

837
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: Silva just leaving the door open doing Bruce Lee shit

838
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: and Bisping outworked him. I mean, do you think Silva

839
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: can come in with the killer instinct?

840
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: Again, here's a thing like you talk about that Bisping fight.

841
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: So Bisbin got dropped at the end of the third.

842
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Bisbing's best round in terms of both volume and what

843
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: was landed, right, So not just like pitter patter shots,

844
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: but like how much work did you do and what

845
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: about the impactful.

846
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: Portion of that? Both of those considerations.

847
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: Mean, his round four was his best one, so he

848
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: got dropped in the third, and you could tell Bisping

849
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: wanted that win. To your point, you couldn't really get

850
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: a sense that like Silva was dying to get it

851
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: in the same kind of of burning intensity sort of way.

852
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: And then you know, taking Cormier on short notice, Okay,

853
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: he heard him, but you know, how much of a

854
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: chance did he have to win that one?

855
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: Not a whole lot.

856
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: He got the brunts and win, which was kind of hole.

857
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: I don't think he deserved that. And then you know

858
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: the cannoneer was another kind of cash.

859
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: Here here's what I think he's trying to do. I

860
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's trying to lose, but I think he

861
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: would rather I think he would rather entertain in some

862
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: kind of way.

863
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: Rather have a chance at creating a viral moment to

864
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: run his fan.

865
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Rather than just like get do what you have to do,

866
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: like Musasi is doing in a very calculated way to

867
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: get the W. I don't think he's in that mind

868
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: space at all. And the thing about Ryah Hall is

869
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: we know he has underperformed historically despite being very talented.

870
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: But here's the thing while he's long in the tooth, respectively,

871
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: not as much as thirty six years old. Yeah, not

872
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: as much as Silva, but he's not exactly young. He's

873
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: with fouris MMA, and he's with sayas Oude, who is

874
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: just not merely a great coach, but a guy who

875
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: knows how to get his fighters to get the best

876
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: of themselves, to really iron out the process, minimize the weeks,

877
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: really accentuate the strengths, stay on a straight and narrow

878
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: sometimes be conventional, don't go too crazy, but really do

879
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: the things you need to do to get your hand raised.

880
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I think this fight in terms of getting the win

881
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: and the loss. If you have to ask me who

882
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: wants it more, I'm almost certain I could say you're righta.

883
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: A Hall yeah, Because look, if if this was different,

884
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: if this was Silva's go away and he was saying

885
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: in the interviews, this is my final fight. I want

886
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: to honor the fans once more. And if there were

887
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: fans you Oh, by the way, if it was in Brazil,

888
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: where it probably would be under normal circumstances, Luke, I'm

889
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: going Silva all day because I feel like again he's

890
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: gonna find whatever's left in him, and he's gonna pour

891
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: it out. Hall, even an aging Hall is a dangerous

892
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: guy to go in there potentially with the mindset of

893
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: I understanding, I just want to be nice to people.

894
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: It's kind of GESP mixed in, but you know, I

895
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: just want to get to Bushido and give you a

896
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: good moment.

897
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: You make it sent to hell.

898
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Here's all I think about it. I look at the

899
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: numbers on this one. Strikes landed per minute, you're rye A.

900
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: Hall's at three point three to one, Anderson Silva at three.

901
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: So edge there in terms of Ryah Hall, but not much.

902
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Here's the big key, strikes absorb per minute for your

903
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Ryah Hall three point five to seven. So number one,

904
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: he's got a negative differential, right, he gets hit more

905
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: than he lands two. This is the This is the

906
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: UFC career of Anderson Silva. He is still averaging less

907
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: strikes absorbed, less than two per minute one point nine

908
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to eight. Let me tell you some folks look at

909
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: these numbers all the time. If you see somebody who

910
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: is how many fights deepens the UFC career at this

911
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: point and he's getting hit less than two times per minute,

912
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: that is extremely good.

913
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: That is very good. I'll say this, the.

914
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Numbers at least indicate historically he didn't get hit as

915
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: much as his striking accuracy for Silva sixty two defense

916
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: sixty one, striking accuracy for Hall just fifty defense fifty three.

917
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not counting Silva out to be clear for these reasons,

918
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: but it's just hard to believe that he really wants

919
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: to get the dumping.

920
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: On a small betting favorite two to one. I mean,

921
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: as that small that's smallish, smallish, you know what I

922
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: feel like? What we're gonna see here is a three

923
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: round decision in which Silva tries to summon a moment,

924
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: doesn't get it, and seems content to go I love you,

925
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: I love everybody.

926
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 5: How big would it be if he goes in there

927
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: and smokes Hall.

928
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: He had convinced Dana to bring him back.

929
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: I think.

930
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 5: So here's the thing.

931
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: Let's say it is his last fight BC and he

932
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: goes in there and smokes Hall. Does he still go

933
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: to Belator?

934
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it all comes down to whether UFC

935
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: really has that one other fight option. If there's one

936
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: more that they can hold him to, and he looks

937
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: great and he wants to fight, eh, I mean they

938
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: did use the retirement angle to sell this fight completely

939
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: on Saturday.

940
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: Truerful.

941
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: They did completely to sell this entire card and going

942
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: up against a boxing pay per view and all that.

943
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: You know, we talked about the beltar option and I'd

944
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 4: love to see.

945
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Him in freak fights against a fad or Is there

946
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: anyone left in UFC maybe separate from that Connor McGregor

947
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: idea that I liked that you didn't like that you

948
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: actually would like to see him against, Like, I'll throw

949
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: you all Ramera out there.

950
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: I came around to the Connor idea only in the

951
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: following way, when Dana was like, oh, I don't want

952
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: this fight to happen. But at the same time, Connor

953
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: sitting on ice. You know, to me, if the choice

954
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: is conversus Silva or Connor on Ice, I'm gonna pick

955
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: converse with Silva ten times out of ten. By itself,

956
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't love the fight, but for those reasons I

957
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: was okay with it another name. I mean, look, you

958
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: can always especially if he goes on he beats Hall,

959
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: you could probably begin to think of a bunch of

960
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: other matches.

961
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: I can do a Legends tour with him.

962
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: How about we get the trilogy against Wideman, in which

963
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: he'll win that fight. How about we get rock Hold,

964
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: who's washed a little.

965
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: We don't know where rock Hold is, but okay, skepticism,

966
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: probably handsome somewhere. So he's handsome somewhere. That's a guarantee.

967
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Is he going to be a lead again? Very debatable.

968
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: Art's not calling him back, probably right right. I did

969
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: ask him on camera one time what does DMS look like?

970
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: And he gave me a very disrespected look, you know,

971
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: like he's yeah.

972
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's funny because I've asked to ask him that

973
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: in person. The twenty fifteen MMA Awards, he and I

974
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: drink a little bit together, not for long, for like,

975
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, about.

976
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: An hour, to smell his coat tails.

977
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: No, but I asked about his DMS. I got some stories.

978
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: You know what, it's nice to be Luke rock Hole.

979
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: It probably it's nice.

980
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: It probably is good things happened to you a lot.

981
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: In any case, here's the thing. There's a lot of

982
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: names you could put interest sold up against. I don't

983
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: have a particular like it's gotta be.

984
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: This well, it's got to be a wash guy. It does,

985
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: it does.

986
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wideman wanted to me in my old producer

987
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: Will radio show. He's been seeing this one, this tune

988
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: for a long time. I actually love that fight. But

989
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: short of that, I don't have like a entertained.

990
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: An ideas how to catchway you do all that weird stuff.

991
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah at this point, yeah, all right, let's close on

992
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: this car the UFC fight, and I give me a

993
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: storyline on the undercard to camera.

994
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: Gotta be the comin Andre Peely taking on Brice Mitchell,

995
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: who now has his camo shorts. By the way, rebox

996
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: still fuck that camo up. It doesn't look that good,

997
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: but okay, they're trying. What do you go?

998
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: It looks more like a like a hunting type of setup, right, well.

999
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: It does look like, Yes, it looks like the kind

1000
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: of camouflage you might use in a tree stand versus

1001
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, digitized camo, which the arm force the man cam. Yes,

1002
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: but they have different kinds. There's a brown cameo, there's

1003
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: the there's the sand camo, and then there's the sort of.

1004
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Very defensive when I bring up the yes because.

1005
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: You know fuck all about them and you think somehow

1006
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: you're more patriotic than me, which is amazing. But I'm

1007
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: not very patriotic, Yeah, but you're more like, you know,

1008
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: you're a conspiracy theorist who kind of also like gets

1009
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: teered up when you hear the Lee Greenwood sing Proud

1010
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: to be an American. You know you're a little weird

1011
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: like that. But Okay, point being is what a great

1012
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: fight for the All the energy right now is like,

1013
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: what's better lightweight or bansamweight. Don't forget about featherweight. Featherweight

1014
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: is this division that's sandwich in the middle. And I'm

1015
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: not saying it's as good as lightweight. I'm definitely not

1016
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: saying it's as good as bandsamweight, but on its own,

1017
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: pretty fucking good. And here comes two guys in Bryce

1018
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: Mitchell young and and Andre Feely. Peely was a guy

1019
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: who's had a bunch of ups and downs. We look

1020
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: at some of his losses, they were very very close,

1021
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: especially the last one to Sadik Yusuf. He was extremely

1022
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: competitive in that contest. I think very highly of his development.

1023
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: And Bryce Mitchell on the ground is an absolute animal.

1024
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: How about the rest of his game, I don't know,

1025
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: but I know Andre Feeley is gonna.

1026
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 5: Be a great test.

1027
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: This is a great test for where Bryce Mitchell is

1028
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: he's given you some spectacular wins.

1029
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: He goes after submission.

1030
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: Look, he goes after submissions, right, I mean he goes

1031
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: like like.

1032
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: It's a mindset.

1033
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: When he grapples, he does it with a certain mindset

1034
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: that allows him to find these positions.

1035
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: You ever go to spring break in a kind of

1036
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: crappy city, like I've done a lot of Daytona.

1037
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: Beach spring break?

1038
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay, the weekends is a lot of thirsty college kids,

1039
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: and you know, and there's probably bad rap concerts down

1040
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: at the beachside club. You ever go out on a

1041
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: weeknight during spring break? I'm sure I had that inverted.

1042
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: Week nights is all local? Is all uh? Spring breakers?

1043
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: The weekends is when the locals come out, when the

1044
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: old guys at the club come out, and they are

1045
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: thirsty as all balls, and.

1046
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: They go after the punani the young.

1047
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: With a passion that can only be compared to Bryce

1048
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Mitchell's want to get that submission win. And let me

1049
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: tell you this right here, if he gets one against

1050
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: Touchy Feely, that you're now elevating him to another level

1051
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: in terms of the rankings and.

1052
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: Where you see him.

1053
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Yes, that is true, but I would not be so

1054
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: ready to look past Phey you seem here's the thing

1055
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Bryce Mitchell is. Bryce Mitchell is an authentic character. He

1056
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: has an ultra aggressive, very fun style, and the whole

1057
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: camo shorts thing, It's like it's a great way to

1058
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: stand out. Plus he did the commercial talking about ripping

1059
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: off his own nutsack and the whole thing. It's a

1060
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: real thing he did, by the way, Like he's just

1061
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: got a ton of personality in the way that Peey

1062
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit more. I wouldn't call him corporate,

1063
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: but sort of just sort of, well.

1064
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: He's anti corporate with the tats everywhere.

1065
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what I mean. He doesn't stand out in

1066
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: the crowd with this sort of bigger than life identity

1067
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: in the way that Bryce kind of does more naturally.

1068
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: But I think that Peeley's development is a little bit

1069
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 1: overlooked because a couple of times he tried to level

1070
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: up and he couldn't. But every time he's tried that,

1071
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: he's been really really close of late, and I still

1072
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: think he's young enough and good enough. I would not

1073
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: be surprised at all if he beats Bryce Mitchell.

1074
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: Did you see Touchy Peeley's acting debut on that Uriah

1075
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Faber produced straight to streaming.

1076
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: Here by cameo and it are you in that? I'm

1077
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: in that?

1078
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: I watched the press. It was a good ass movie.

1079
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: It started off started off very like like uh, direct

1080
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: to video, but then started evolving and got a little nasty.

1081
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 5: I was the newscaster in one of the scenes.

1082
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: Are you sure, Yes, I'm one hundred percent sure, Yes,

1083
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm in the trailer. My voice is actually the first

1084
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: voice in the trailer.

1085
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're talking.

1086
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't get paid for that.

1087
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 4: All right, real quick?

1088
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: On that undercard heavyweights, Maurice Green, the King of Crochet.

1089
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gregg's Greg Hardy.

1090
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Greg Harty coming in well under the radar here. How

1091
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: big of a fight for Hardy's advancement is it?

1092
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like, on the one here's what I

1093
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: think in terms of like meaningfully becoming something as an attraction,

1094
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: this fight means nothing.

1095
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: I don't think.

1096
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: Beating Maurice Green in the way that he's doing.

1097
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: It means jack shit.

1098
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: In terms of like developing Greg Hardy into the best

1099
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: version of himself. I think it's a perfectly serviceable fight

1100
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: because Greg Hardy, I thought when he beat what was

1101
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: the guy who's Austin Lane or whatever his name was

1102
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: on the Contender series. I mean, he looked at me

1103
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: like he was shot out of a canon. The athletic

1104
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: difference between this guy and the other one was enormous,

1105
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: and he's shown some growth that I think you just

1106
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: can't take away from him, even if you don't like

1107
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: the guy as the person. But there's also been something

1108
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: lacking about his development at the same time, right, and

1109
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to see exactly where it is beating

1110
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: someone like Maurice Screen. Depending on how he does, it

1111
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: could give us an indication of filling in that picture.

1112
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Friend of the Program, Rashad Evans will be working Greg

1113
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: Hardy's corner on Saturday, and I see at hard Knocks

1114
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 2: now Sanford Mma.

1115
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 5: I believe, oh y, that's what it's called now.

1116
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, wasn't Greg Hardy just at Att. I'm not

1117
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: sure if he changed.

1118
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: So, dude, no one knows the story here, or at

1119
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: least it has never been public. But Dean Thomas leaves Att,

1120
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: Phil dru leaves Att, Colby Covington left Att, and Greg

1121
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: Hardy I guess some other ones did as well. Now

1122
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: people come and go from a team that big all

1123
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: the time.

1124
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: Well, King Most stepped up King Most Mike. He brought

1125
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 2: Brazilian Trek.

1126
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: Is there con conin Silveria?

1127
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like what happened where there was not

1128
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: an exodus, but there was. It seemed to me a

1129
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: little bit of a purge, a little perge.

1130
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I did ask for shot when he was on

1131
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: the Morning Combat Expert Picks pod last week.

1132
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: Had he ever cornered somebody before? I didn't know this?

1133
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: He said he was in v Tour Belford's corner in

1134
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: the John Jones title fight, which is kind of some

1135
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: weird WWE you know, bullshit me like like comeback because

1136
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: you know obviously we're shot.

1137
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 4: Had the big feud with John Jones.

1138
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: So then he went into a vtor's corner to help

1139
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: him and they almost got the submission.

1140
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 5: V Tour was he had a lot of testoster on

1141
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: his system for that one.

1142
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn right.

1143
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: He did shout out to that still lost, Still lost?

1144
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 4: John's that good? All right?

1145
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a pay per view week. Let's get into

1146
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: the main event. Showtime pay per View this Saturday, Halloween Night,

1147
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: the Alamo Dome, nine pm Eastern Strong undercard on that

1148
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: main pay per view card, but it's topped, of course,

1149
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty pounds. Gervante Tank Davis going to

1150
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: bring his secondary WBA bel at one thirty five. Put

1151
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: it on the line at one thirty against Leo Santa Cruz,

1152
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: the four division champion currently has the WBA belt at

1153
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: one thirty. We have nailed hard the storylines coming in

1154
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather's involvement all that stuff. Today at one pm Eastern,

1155
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: check out the way and stream. I'm gonna see if

1156
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Dravonte can make one thirty. Luke and I gonna be

1157
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: hosting that. We'll be breaking all things down. But let's

1158
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: talk about the actual fight, all right. And let's say

1159
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Dravonte makes weight and looks great. Is it easy to

1160
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: just say that or is that still the biggest stumbling

1161
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: block on how you handicap who wins on yees?

1162
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: So here's my thing.

1163
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: He said yesterday at the press conference which we hosted

1164
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: the stream for that as well, that he moved his

1165
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: camp from Baltimore to Las Vegas to be closer to

1166
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather. Okay, and he said the camp has been

1167
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: fifteen weeks. Now we know he's had trouble making one

1168
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: thirty five and one thirty. This one will be at

1169
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: one thirty. But my thought is BC, if you can't

1170
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: make weight, if you're really training after fifteen weeks as

1171
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: a professional athlete, then you just should not be involved

1172
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: in that weight class under any circumstance. So we're going

1173
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: to see what's up. I tend to think he will

1174
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: make it. He might struggle, but I suspect that he

1175
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: will make it okay. So if he makes it, still

1176
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: the question is is in what shape is he going

1177
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: to be? Leo Santa Cruz has said that the first

1178
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: five rounds are going to be where the storm is

1179
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: and then after that he's going to be really begin

1180
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: to take over. The conventional wisdom around this fight is

1181
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: maybe Cruz will do that, Santa Cruz will do that,

1182
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe he won't, But eventually Davis, the big power puncher

1183
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: in either hand, is going to find the mark and

1184
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: lay him out. I don't think that that's a crazy thought. Vegas,

1185
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Vegas believe. I don't think that's in any way crazy thought.

1186
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: I can see that logic, but to me, it's missing

1187
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: something which is in order for a guy like Gervanta,

1188
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: who Dravante, excuse me, who is not necessarily a rhythm fighter,

1189
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: but he is judicious about his shot selection.

1190
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 6: Right.

1191
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: People don't talk about this. They only talk about him

1192
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: as an athlete and a big puncher. But he's actually

1193
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: a very smart guy. But he is a little bit

1194
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: too deliberate. He has to make I'm not saying you

1195
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: can can't play the.

1196
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 5: Volume game with Santa Cruz. You will lose, so.

1197
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: You can't do that. But at the same time, you

1198
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: can't let him play his volume game. He's gonna get

1199
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: some volume, you just spot him that, but you don't

1200
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: want him to have free reign. You want to be

1201
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: able to push back on that just enough, which means

1202
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to slightly match his intensity. You're gonna

1203
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: have to put out a little bit more than what

1204
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: he's doing. I'm expecting Gravante to sit behind the jab

1205
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more than he commonly does. I really

1206
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be key, plus Santa Cruz a little

1207
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: bit longer as well, so really sticking that into his

1208
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: face and making him feel it, making him have to

1209
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: really work to push him backwards. I think these are

1210
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna be key, and I think that Jervonte threw a

1211
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: slightly increased amount of output working behind the jab, and

1212
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: if he does that, we'll eventually find it, because it won't.

1213
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: It will never put him in a position where he's

1214
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: too far from ever getting back in rhythm, finding setups,

1215
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: creating reads, that kind of a thing. But I honestly

1216
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: feel like if he sits back and says I'm gonna

1217
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: do the char a little bit against Harrison, We're I'm

1218
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: just gonna spot you round my.

1219
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave a gap and Leo will fill that.

1220
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: Leo will fill that gap in ways that Harrison did not.

1221
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: Leo certainly banking on gassing Jervonteyau and look, Damonte, we

1222
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: think he's got all these boxing skills and they're having

1223
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: a great trainer in Calvin Ford. Having Floyd Mayweather be

1224
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: a huge influence in your camp and saying that I

1225
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: got so much craft, I just haven't had to show

1226
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: it because I'm knocking fools out is one thing, you know,

1227
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Showing it is another thing. Vegas believes that it's either

1228
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: going to be his power or once they do match up,

1229
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: he's just the potential better athlete, better boxer. But the

1230
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: odds really don't represent the potential for how close this

1231
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: fight could be. Leo Santa Cruz is a guy who's

1232
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: been hovering around top ten pound for pound for years,

1233
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: only lost once and avenge that loss against Carl Frampton,

1234
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: albeit at featherweight, but showed you that he can box

1235
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: from the outside just as well as he can flurry

1236
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: on the inside. Obviously, the later this fight goes, the

1237
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: better chance Santa Cruz has. What you're really going to

1238
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: be looking for is that you said that first half

1239
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: of that fight, the first five rounds. Can Leo certainly

1240
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: take the punches as a big key, but after that

1241
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: and he bother Davis, can he hurt him?

1242
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm not I don't know.

1243
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: He can certainly go to the body and try and

1244
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: that's something Leo Santa Cruz does well as well as anybody.

1245
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: But can he just flurry and be you know, have

1246
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: so much activity that Gervonte goes, Wow, I'm gonna need

1247
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: another part of my arsenal in this one that I

1248
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: don't knowlways use and again maybe that begins to tax him.

1249
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: That's where you like Leo's chance is better to have

1250
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: a shot to win this decision. But for all this

1251
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: breaking down and all this, you know, are the odds

1252
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: too wide.

1253
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: It may not matter.

1254
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: He may go in there and prove Luke that he

1255
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: can set up his power shots. He had an even

1256
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: better you know, craft than we'd seen before, and that

1257
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: power is the ultimate equalizer. This is his pay per

1258
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: view debut. Gravont's doing it three years earlier than even

1259
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: Floyd did back in two thousand and five against Artro

1260
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: Gotti when he was twenty eight.

1261
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna make a big splash.

1262
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: And I think that whether you think Leo's not getting

1263
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: the full respect or whether yeah, I can guarantee you

1264
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: that Leo's gonna give us the five best rounds we've

1265
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: ever seen, it can still get stopped in that sixth

1266
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: round because Davonte's got special fight changing power and he's

1267
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: the bigger man.

1268
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing I don't want to see is, obviously,

1269
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: the tactical approach that he had in the Gamboa fight

1270
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: is not rollvant here. I don't mean that, and I'm

1271
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: not going to say he was lazy in that fight,

1272
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: but he was a little bit. I didn't get the

1273
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: sense that he had much urgency either, and I'm not

1274
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: saying he has to have ants in the pants urgency.

1275
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: But you know, if eight rounds have passed and you're like, okay,

1276
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: I'll get him in the final third of this fight,

1277
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: I just don't like. Yes, that's probably true, because in fact,

1278
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: that's how we got Gamboa right in the final third

1279
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: of their fight. But I just don't like that as

1280
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: a strategy against Santa Cruz, who can just stay in

1281
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: your face, who can back you up? The other key here,

1282
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: I think you would agree.

1283
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 6: BC.

1284
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: The more time you see Davis with his back along

1285
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: the ropes, the more that's bad for him, and vice versa.

1286
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: If Santa Cruz is on the ropes, Davis is going

1287
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: to work on him. So really where the fight takes

1288
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: place in the ring will also be very very important.

1289
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good undercard.

1290
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: Couple one pound bites he readis program making his PBC debut.

1291
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: I saw you guys put up on the bottom of

1292
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: the screen that you can order this fight now. It's

1293
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: Saturday night showtime pay per view. Javonte Davis, Leo Santa Cruz,

1294
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: get ahead of the game, and of course check out

1295
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: the way in special today San Antonio, I think we

1296
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: had much more pressing business to do here in Jersey,

1297
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: all right?

1298
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: Is that what it was? We could have done that

1299
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: from there too.

1300
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: You know, I thought when we would get here to

1301
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: the top, we would be like in Manhattan, you know,

1302
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like the neon lights Manhattan

1303
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: across the water from They're like, hey, Jersey City is

1304
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: all yours.

1305
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: Take it all.

1306
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1307
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: It's you and Bobby Hurley all you need over there?

1308
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: All right?

1309
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's the fight this weekend. It's not all

1310
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: of boxing though this weekend, Luke, some really good, sneaky

1311
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: stuff going on. And let's start here in the heavyweight division.

1312
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna want to check this out.

1313
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: It's on his own.

1314
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: It's Alexander Usik in England, facing his second fight at heavyweight,

1315
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 2: but his toughest test to date.

1316
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see in a second. I don't

1317
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 4: know if you've ever host before.

1318
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: Against veteran British brawler Derek Chasaura. No, let me tell

1319
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 2: you this. I know we have a lot of MMA

1320
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: fans here, Luke. Okay, if you don't know who Alexander

1321
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: Usik is, the Ukrainian, the Olympic gold medalist.

1322
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: Here's basically what he is.

1323
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: He won all four cruiserweight world titles by beating one

1324
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 2: unbeaten killer after another, winning the World Boxing Super Series,

1325
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: jumping into our for poundless and he's basically a Lomachenko

1326
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: of the higher way classes. He is a guy who's

1327
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: now moved up to heavyweight and if he is able

1328
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: to use his speed, footwork, elusiveness, he's not a big

1329
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: power puncher. If he can do that and swim without

1330
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: getting wet and take the punching power of the big

1331
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: guys Luke, it's in play.

1332
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: He's already a.

1333
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Mandatory for one of Anthony Joshua's titles. It's in play

1334
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: that he could be a wild out doing some of

1335
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: the same things Tyson Fury did, although he's only six

1336
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: foot three and not as long. But he could be

1337
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: the Swiss army knife that gives Wilder, Joshua or Tease

1338
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: anybody problems. The problem is he had an injury which

1339
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: delayed his heavyweight debut by a year. The first fight

1340
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: came against Chaz Withersen.

1341
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: We didn't learn much.

1342
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: We may learn a lot because Shazorah makes you fight.

1343
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: You see this as knife slicing through butter and the

1344
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: skills prey of the bills or do you think Usik.

1345
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 4: Could have a rough night at the fights this Saturday.

1346
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: I tend to think very highly of Usik. He was

1347
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: also supposed to fight former kickboxing star the Tyrone Thomso

1348
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: was the certain Amese guy, and then Tyrone you know,

1349
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: had some we want to say, drug testing issues, something like.

1350
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: Something like that.

1351
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they never made that fight, which would have

1352
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: been fun to see. Athough, I think Usik would have had

1353
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 1: his weight with him too. From what I have seen

1354
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: of Usk through his cruiserweight run, he is just incredible.

1355
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: But you're right, this is really the first time at

1356
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: heavyweight where like, okay, you have to fight somebody who

1357
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: is has been at the relative top of this game

1358
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: for quite some time in their revision durable power, big power,

1359
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: sort of a dynamic force as a personality. To what

1360
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: extend that I may rattle him. I don't think that

1361
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: it will, but he there's all of a sudden to

1362
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: be dealt with there. So this is a great first,

1363
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: real big foray into heavyweight. I tend to think that

1364
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Usik just has way more skill as a better athlete, actually,

1365
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll see.

1366
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: Look, you know, a little taste of what Usik might

1367
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: be like at heavyweight came in his last cruiserway about

1368
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: he thought, Tony Bell, you who had come down from heavyweight,

1369
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: and I actually called that fight for his own and he,

1370
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: you know, he sent him to hell and it was

1371
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: a beautiful set up and finish. Like I said, Usik

1372
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: the mandatory for Joshua. I think I think he's gonna

1373
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: be spectacular on Saturday. I think he's gonna picture so

1374
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: apart and I think we're gonna be talking. I think

1375
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking Monday.

1376
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1377
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: To stop him, it's gonna have to be over you know,

1378
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: accumulation of punches. But I think we're gonna be talking

1379
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: about this wizard. How is he going to do against

1380
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: the super heavyweights coming up? We'll see.

1381
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: It's a great showcase, showcase.

1382
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: It's a great step up, really opportunity on Saturday.

1383
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: There also this weekend.

1384
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: I believe this was on ESP I'm not sure if

1385
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: it's on the Plus, but I have Usik number six

1386
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: in my top ten fround for pound.

1387
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 4: You know, I have number two, the Japanese Monster.

1388
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: If you're an MMA fan and you don't know who Niowa,

1389
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: a new way is get learnt quickly. He's gonna be

1390
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: defending his bantamweight tyles. I believe he had just coming

1391
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: off winning the World Boxing Super Series at one hundred

1392
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: and eighteen pounds, going in there against one of the

1393
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: Maloney brothers from Australia. So Luke, I'm not super high

1394
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: on the Maloney's. I believe this is Jason who he's

1395
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: fighting on Saturday. This isn't so much about the opponent here.

1396
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: This is a little bit more about a new A

1397
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: who'd been fighting off of US TV his initial rise,

1398
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: and he did kind of that Lomachenko thing. He wanted

1399
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: all the smoke early he turned pro, he fought for

1400
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: and won a title in like his fifth fight. He

1401
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: moved up and weighed and won a title in his

1402
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: second division in like a seventh or eighth fight. Now

1403
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: he's a three division champion, and he's coming off the

1404
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: fight of the year last year in the final of

1405
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: that tournament when the veteran Nonino Donare pushed him broke

1406
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: Anwe's face in the second round, but a new A

1407
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: survived that. This is all about a Newa coming to

1408
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: the States and top rank, introducing him to the people.

1409
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: Is he as good as is my phoner is telling

1410
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: you right now.

1411
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: No, every boxing fan was high on the sky, and

1412
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about him until the World Boxing

1413
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: Super Series, where he of course ultimately culminated in the

1414
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: fight way against Donair and did what he did, and

1415
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: so that was my real introduction to him. So obviously

1416
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm not as well versed in the totality of his career,

1417
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: but from what I saw, I mean, the guy is

1418
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: just all power, all action, in your face and still

1419
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: slick technically super slick. So he's not just a big

1420
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: bruiser who just gets in your face. He's got the

1421
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: full array of boxing skills. The only issue with him

1422
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: is while the WBSS tournament was good for raising his

1423
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: visibility inside the boxing and somewhat the sporting community, he

1424
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: still has not become that popular attraction. He's really not

1425
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: crossed over in that way. Like the level of enthusiasm

1426
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: that hardcores have for him should, over time translate to

1427
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: making this person a bigger star. Like they differ Lomachenko

1428
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: and Lopez.

1429
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: Chocolate had a minute there where he became a thing.

1430
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Where POI exactly where he had Residente from Kayetes just

1431
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: shout him out the whole nine yards in a way

1432
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: needs that push and this is really the beginning of that.

1433
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know a guy who carried his power up

1434
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: and he's starting to show you that, like their main

1435
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: not be a ceiling on where on the effectiveness of

1436
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: his power, And that's dangerous already a three division champion

1437
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: wants everyone wants them all.

1438
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: Tell me what you tell the audience. What you told

1439
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: me about Maloney's chances.

1440
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, get your family to write your will out. They

1441
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: the old Mike Tyson quote.

1442
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 4: You know that. I think he's gonna.

1443
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: Send Maloney to Yeah, even though he's a qualified opponent here.

1444
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 4: But this is more about a new way you can

1445
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: do it all.

1446
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: And the best part about that Donaor fight, which we

1447
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: thought he was going to destroy Nonedo and Donare in his.

1448
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: Late thirties, poured it out.

1449
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: Bro Like I said, broke a newe's orbital bone, like

1450
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: was hurting him late before he ended up getting dropped

1451
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: twice in a very close fight. He proved to us

1452
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: Luke that he's tough, that's not all knockouts, that he

1453
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: can box, that he can adjust his game plan. The

1454
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: Japanese monster n Iowa a new a number two pound

1455
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: upon of my list is the real deal. Hey, you

1456
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: gotta do it in the States, right, you want to

1457
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: make it here? If you can make it here in

1458
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: Jersey City, you I don't know, I don't know.

1459
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make it Ay and maybe Hoboken.

1460
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll probably make it in my factory town. But

1461
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to make it in Vegas on Saturday

1462
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: a new way. And that's uh, that's the ship for

1463
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: the week here, Luke. You want to do a little

1464
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: dead wrong.

1465
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 5: Let's do some dead wrong.

1466
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: All right, let's get into that.

1467
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 5: Your favorite segment of the week.

1468
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where we look back and see, yeah,

1469
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: well we well we got the hell wrong there? Heavy

1470
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: on Luke this week? Wow, Luke, this was heavy.

1471
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: On me every week because people don't police you as hard.

1472
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 5: That's why.

1473
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: All right?

1474
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: And last week's dead wrong? How how Mike? How meta?

1475
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 5: Was this?

1476
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Urry? Yod? I got? I I was dead wrong during

1477
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: dead Wrong?

1478
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: Yes? Isn't it ironic?

1479
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 5: Right? Don't you think little too ironic?

1480
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: I really do think? Right? Yeah? Wow?

1481
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: Right?

1482
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: Little? You know it was Dave Coolier that she was

1483
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: banging that she wrote that you ought to no shows.

1484
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: I know, there's there's certain there's certain women in life

1485
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: who are just when it comes to picking the men

1486
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: in there, there's a class that's Uncle Joey classic underachieved.

1487
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, shows to Atlantis there, Luke. During last week's

1488
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: Dead Wrong, we were talking about Rashad Evans and you

1489
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: said he was the first Tough Winner to win a UFC.

1490
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 5: Champ's totally wrong.

1491
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 4: He had just beaten Forst. Griffin, who really was.

1492
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: The first first, So I think the so okay, So

1493
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: a couple of things. One sometimes i'm dead wrong. I

1494
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: just misspeak. It still counts, you got to count it,

1495
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: but it's not as bad. This was one I just

1496
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: got the members.

1497
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: Wait, am I dead wrong? I'm reading the stats Forst.

1498
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: Griffin is who Rashad won the title from us, But

1499
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: Matt Sarah was the first? Was the first Ultimate Fighter win?

1500
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: Did he win the tough or was he just.

1501
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 5: Let's verify that because I thought Force Griffin won it.

1502
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: Our producer Mike, he has it written here that Forrest

1503
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: won his title in eight. Sarah won his from GESP

1504
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: and O seven. So I guess Matt Sarah is the

1505
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: first Tough Winner to win a chance if if he

1506
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: even won.

1507
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm okay he.

1508
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: Had a career through UFC before the Ultimate Fighter because

1509
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: Sarah was on the season comeback. Yeah yeah, And whereas

1510
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Rashad's gateway force Griffin's gateway, So I think Ultimate Fighter

1511
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: products that would be Force Griffin. And also I think

1512
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: this was the fight where it was the first ever

1513
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter winner winning about all another Ultimate Fighter winner?

1514
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: I think it it was season one versus season two.

1515
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: So sometimes I'm dead wrong.

1516
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 5: I'll just misspeak. It counts, but it's not as bad

1517
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 5: this one. I just totally fucked up.

1518
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: So is Fad Rashad Evans dead wrong about all? He

1519
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: said on The Rogan Show about psychedelics? I mean, could

1520
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: could could you?

1521
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 5: You've never done psychedelics?

1522
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: Could you go through a emotional and spiritual cleansing that

1523
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: maybe you need?

1524
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 4: If you and I were really.

1525
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: I need one? You fucking degenerate you, would.

1526
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: You be willing to come with me?

1527
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: Rashat?

1528
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 4: He'll probably have to get a shaman.

1529
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: We'll go to like Joshua Tree in California, will lick

1530
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: toads and and uh and he peote and watch the sunrise.

1531
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: And no, you can just give me some edible brownies

1532
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: and call it a day and I'll watch family. Guy.

1533
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 5: That's about all the spiritual.

1534
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: I think this could be a turning point in your life.

1535
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to get Rashot on the horn. Maybe we

1536
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: can get MK cameras there, maybe we get Jay involved.

1537
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 5: Why don't you do it first? Tell me how it goes?

1538
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 5: All right?

1539
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: Also, Luke, you mentioned that Alexander Volkoff had wings tattooed

1540
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: on his upper back before changing it to the Decepticon

1541
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: or whatever the hell that thing is. He actually had

1542
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: a mantle ring.

1543
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: You have a picture of this, I believe we do.

1544
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: It ain't it ain't wings. It was a manto.

1545
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay, it is a manta ray. But if you had

1546
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: not really paid close attention, but you had seen the tattoo,

1547
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: does it not resemble a lot of the other ones

1548
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: who get wings across their back?

1549
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 4: I mean dead wrong? Is it's true?

1550
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: It is a manta ray? It is okay, all right,

1551
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: but you know, go fuck yourselves because this was not

1552
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: exactly Now this Jesus Christ, and my ultimate point was correct,

1553
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: which was there's that much black up top heavy blacking

1554
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: on the tattoo.

1555
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 5: Because it was a cover up.

1556
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 1: But you can see that they made the helmet basically, Yes,

1557
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: the covered up part of the sort of samurai mask

1558
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1559
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that think that we had

1560
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: we should be doing a weekly UFC Tattoo segment or

1561
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: Combat Sports Tattoos segment. Not opposed to it either, am

1562
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: I Do you feel like every time you see Roby

1563
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: Lawler fight that that tramp stamp area is like incomplete,

1564
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 2: like he started something and then it never feg Yeah, I've.

1565
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: Been wondering when he was going to fill that in,

1566
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's going to fill that in. Man.

1567
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: All right, all right, out to Robbie Lawler.

1568
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 5: I'm getting a tattooed next month.

1569
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're getting it on your.

1570
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 5: Forum here two about here?

1571
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: What is it again? The Colombian flag?

1572
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 5: No, it's the ego.

1573
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: Globe and acre of the Marine Corps Temper five?

1574
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: What is it?

1575
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 5: Who?

1576
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Who wah who yah you nasty civilian.

1577
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: Every Marine I know is just angry.

1578
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 5: That's the way they breed us, bro, That's the way

1579
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: it's done.

1580
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: I'd rather hang out with Rashad in the desert, you know.

1581
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm not saying I'm opposed to that. Listen,

1582
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: you know what I need. I need a couple of

1583
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: edibles and I just need a relaxing couch and just

1584
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: leave me the fuck.

1585
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: Alone, hot dog and a hand job and just really

1586
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: all right, all right to close dead wrong. On Wednesday

1587
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: show of This Week, Luke or no, maybe it was Monday,

1588
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: I got apparently, I got into a little hot water.

1589
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: We brought up Kurt Shilling. We brought up the bloody

1590
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: shock game, and I believe my quote was, you know what,

1591
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 2: I don't have anything against Kurt Shilling. And here's why

1592
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: Luke I always got controversial opinions. I love I love

1593
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: him as an athlete. I like that he kind of

1594
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: runs his mouth on the mic. I don't let me

1595
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: read this.

1596
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: I had to stop watching Morning Combat because Brian Campbell

1597
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: playing Slash, being the anti Son Giants bro is just

1598
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: not something I find enjoyable. I do just let the

1599
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: YouTube video run on my Chromebook, though, because I want

1600
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas to succeed.

1601
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: So the snarky ginger fuck you got on an assault

1602
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: of I've never said him.

1603
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: B Campbell respects Kurt Shilling, and I didn't need him

1604
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: to actually tell us to know it.

1605
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: I just said I have nothing against him. I loved

1606
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: him as an athlete. I think it's funny how.

1607
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: One of my top supporter she is like endlessly.

1608
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: She kept coming, she kept coming, Oh yeah, can we

1609
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: advance the slide? I told her basically, you don't know

1610
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 2: me there from the great Get Shorty clip. And then

1611
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: she says, I know the character you get paid to play.

1612
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 4: I hope do?

1613
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: I hope you know Kurt Shilling is a piece of

1614
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: garbage who has committed fraud and at and.

1615
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: Is at best adjacent to racist and biggots. Yes. Does

1616
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: it matter when you go on a platform and say otherwise. No.

1617
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 4: I went on to defend myself.

1618
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't.

1619
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't believe everything Kurt Shilling. But I'm just like,

1620
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: I got nothing against him. He's just funny to me.

1621
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: He's just a character.

1622
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: He's a fucking moron, all right.

1623
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: So my dead wrong is that I represented apparently that

1624
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: I respect and believe in everything he says. So, yeah,

1625
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. All I was saying is I don't hate

1626
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: the guy. I was a big fan of him as

1627
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: an athlete. He named his son Gereg.

1628
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of cool, right, is Garreg? And is he

1629
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: the leader of QAnon.

1630
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 4: He never frauded me.

1631
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: I don't really read his political views.

1632
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: Who was the other?

1633
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: You know, look, we can love the art but hate

1634
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 4: the artist.

1635
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: Right sort of. I mean there's limits to it. But

1636
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, all these MMA fighters don't

1637
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: share my politics, I still like them. You know, you

1638
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: gotta learn to separate at some point.

1639
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: Shout out to the snarky redhead Ginger. I followed her

1640
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: to try to be nice, and then she said, don't

1641
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: follow me, and then she did that thing where she unfollowed.

1642
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: Me from her, but which I think is a I

1643
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: think you do it through blocking and then quickly unblocking.

1644
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 5: It makes them no longer following.

1645
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, shout out to the people who think

1646
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm just the skip Bayless anti science.

1647
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 4: Bro of this duo.

1648
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: Is he anti mask Luke?

1649
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: I just bring it, all right. I just put myself

1650
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: and I smear it on the screen.

1651
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: Right by the way. We have room service diaries coming

1652
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: out where Brian goes into detail about how he's the ketchup.

1653
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 5: That's who you think you are?

1654
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: Ketchup?

1655
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the sauce, you know, bro, You're just in

1656
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: the end, You're an important piece of meat. But you know,

1657
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: you're an unseasoned, dead animal at the end of the day.

1658
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: All right, how is it that I've managed to have

1659
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: a significantly wider audience than you by being Is it? Luke?

1660
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 4: Is it quality or quantity?

1661
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: Okay?

1662
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: What if I told you both, bro in the history

1663
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: of my life?

1664
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, I you know what For example, if I

1665
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: was like, well, I slept with these three gorgeous women

1666
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: throughout my life. But then you're like, well I slept

1667
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 2: with these hogs maybe, and you know I'm a more

1668
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: man than you, I'd be like, take your gross dick elsewhere, right.

1669
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: Right, Dude, you need psychological counseling way more than I do.

1670
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time with you in the

1671
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: last few days, Luca.

1672
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not not telling you to bang Heifer's what

1673
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

1674
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: That's all you?

1675
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 7: Right?

1676
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: Hey?

1677
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: No tips this week, Luke? Okay, you have any you

1678
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: want to give? Any tips on the way out?

1679
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: Any instruct No, Well, we should say something because we're

1680
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: in the studio here, and candidly, I don't think it's

1681
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: going to be another nine months before we're back, But

1682
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're coming back.

1683
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: Could you see a future in which we're live Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

1684
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: Great bonus content clips in between the Dissected, maybe the

1685
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: live chat the hard Core.

1686
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: There was no live chat yesterday because we had to

1687
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: do a bunch of stuff, including extra projects around the

1688
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: brand and for showtime. So the live chat will come

1689
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: back next week. Just hopefully they're respected as well. I

1690
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: love Dissected, Dissected. I don't know anyway.

1691
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: Do you see a future in which Mondays, though, are

1692
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: still right here?

1693
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 5: I will say, make my hand.

1694
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to come back to this studio regularly

1695
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: on Mondays.

1696
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: Really, what do you think went down on this table

1697
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: during the six months.

1698
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 5: We weren't here?

1699
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: Does Jay touch himself inappropriately by sitting or standing?

1700
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 2: I could see Jay producing the show bear ass sitting

1701
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 2: around here and just having us think he's professional.

1702
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: From the aircraft carrier up.

1703
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 6: You know.

1704
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe I don't know, but I also had the

1705
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 1: window unit air conditioning.

1706
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, another no Jay Friday here.

1707
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to gas, shot out to

1708
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: the men each our boys holding us up, big meach.

1709
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1710
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what else I have to say here,

1711
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: Luke check us out at one pm Eastern today on

1712
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: the Showtime YouTube channel for Gervante and Leo. Can we

1713
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: hit up the social on the bottom please? Socials follow

1714
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: me at at a few different places there.

1715
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we're on the tweets, we're on the instas. Yeah,

1716
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: give us a like and subscribe by the way to

1717
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: the video. Did move a whole lot of units in

1718
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: that regard this week. Not every week can be a

1719
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: big winner, but October has been well. I have a

1720
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: very good month.

1721
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: My interview with Regis progress is still out there if

1722
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: people want to check it out.

1723
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: All right, how many how many views does your boxing content?

1724
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand? Is that what it gets? Yeah?

1725
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: Did we put out boxing content as like a favorite

1726
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: to boxing? And I don't think boxing loves us back

1727
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: just putting that out there.

1728
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 4: It's a different audience, Luke, Okay.

1729
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: Serious question. Are they as online?

1730
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 5: No, they're not right now.

1731
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 2: It's it's I don't know anyone in boxing that those

1732
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: big podcast numbers. I'm serious about that. You know, I

1733
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: don't think that's a big avenue compared.

1734
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 4: To m m A or NBA or what.

1735
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 2: You know, different sports have different uh you know, groups

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Speaker 2: and cultures that are different ages or different tendencies in

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Speaker 2: terms of the online culture or podcasts. I don't see

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Speaker 2: that as much in the box game MMA's hot, Pro

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Speaker 2: Wrestling's Hot, for example.

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Speaker 5: But all right, how much are you gonna miss me?

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Speaker 1: Times?

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Speaker 4: My car picked me up today?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Like three?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, check us out at the one pm Eastern live

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Speaker 2: stream the way and we'll be sitting right here at

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Speaker 2: Orchids of Combat. It was a pleasure though that Luke

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Speaker 2: this week to be in your presence.

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Speaker 4: Some would say we wouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: A show without all your social followers.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks for watching.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your Halloween weekend. Uh, don't spread the COVID. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for Luke Thomas. I am Brian Campbell, Big big