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Speaker 1: It was a fun Friday night at Jillette Stadium. Is

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Speaker 1: the Patriots got a little bit competitive with a scrimmage

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Speaker 1: inside Julette Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Let's break down for you.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Patriots training camp cast, and we

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Speaker 1: are fresh off of the field that Jillette Stadium where

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Speaker 1: the Patriots switched it up a little bit. Guys, usually

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Speaker 1: these in stadium practices aren't really competitive, but tonight Mike

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Speaker 1: Brabel instituted some points.

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Speaker 2: They had a draft.

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Speaker 1: Between the two teams, and it was actually pretty enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: Paul, wouldn't you say? I thought it was fun.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was any more necessarily competitive than

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Speaker 3: the I did, and not because I thought that, you know,

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Speaker 3: the overall execution was all that great.

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Speaker 2: I know Evan's you know, sort of in a.

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Speaker 3: Dark place, but I thought the way that Vrabel sort

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Speaker 3: of explained, you know, there was going to be scoring

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Speaker 3: on defense for good defensive plays, turnovers, you know, run

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Speaker 3: stuffs and things of the of the like, you know,

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Speaker 3: third downstops, third conversions on offense. So the game never

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Speaker 3: really got out of hand either way because it wasn't

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Speaker 3: ever more than a one score game. Because you could

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Speaker 3: get infinite amount of points on a possession, So I

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Speaker 3: thought it was a fun set up. Now, I'll let

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Speaker 3: Evan tell you why you shouldn't be too happy about

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Speaker 3: anything that happens.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't want to rain on the parade because

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Speaker 4: it was a fun night and it was a fun

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Speaker 4: set up, and I was glad that we got to

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Speaker 4: get one of these where felt at least live and competitive.

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Speaker 4: And I've seen so many of these in stadium practices

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Speaker 4: that are just walk throughs and glorified walkthroughs, and this

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Speaker 4: was much better than that. It was much more fun

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Speaker 4: than that. And there were standouts which we'll get to,

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Speaker 4: but let's just call it for what it was. Drake

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Speaker 4: May's team, the Blue team, turned the ball over three

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Speaker 4: times in the practice. Drake had two interceptions, Rmandra Stevenson fumbled.

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Speaker 4: These are just the types of practices you just don't

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Speaker 4: want to see repeat it. If it's a one off

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Speaker 4: and it was just a fun night, loose s gooofy

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Speaker 4: kind of practice, then that's totally fine. But if we

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Speaker 4: get out there against Washington on Wednesday and you have

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Speaker 4: a joint practice like this, then it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not going to take this too seriously. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they were doing trick plays, they were doing some crazy stuff.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not going to sit here and take away

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Speaker 4: all these you know, doom and gloom type observations.

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Speaker 2: But I just don't want to see that repeated. Is

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Speaker 2: that fair?

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't want to totally fair and im and

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Speaker 3: I'm obviously, you know, having some fun with Evan that

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Speaker 3: the execution was not very crisp. I thought may had

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Speaker 3: some open targets that he missed on what I think

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Speaker 3: the second series that he had.

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Speaker 2: I thought he had Stevenson on.

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Speaker 3: A little kind of a broken play where I thought

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Speaker 3: he did a really nice job climbing the pocket to

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Speaker 3: avoid some potential pressure, and then Stevenson came free in

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Speaker 3: the end zone and he missed him by a good

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Speaker 3: five yards wide. And then I thought the next play

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Speaker 3: he had a chance for a big play down the

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Speaker 3: sideline to digs. May Or may not have had room

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Speaker 3: to squeeze one in, but the throw really didn't give

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Speaker 3: him a chance. So there were some ups and downs.

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Speaker 3: I understand where Evan's coming from. You want to see

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Speaker 3: a little bit better execution at this stage, but I

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Speaker 3: kind of take it, you know, for the fun that

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Speaker 3: I think it was intense, been full with the fans.

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Speaker 2: I was a fan tonight. I was I was fanboy,

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Speaker 2: and that was a large fan practice.

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Speaker 4: And if that's all we're going to chalk it up to,

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Speaker 4: then that's totally fine. But if I'm Mike Rabel personally,

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Speaker 4: I would probably say, hey, we don't practice that way,

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Speaker 4: you know, And we didn't practice that way the first

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Speaker 2: That's more than fair. That's all absolutely well. Put a

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Speaker 1: It was ended when Drake May threw an interception to

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Speaker 1: Alex Austin, who took to the turf to seal the

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Speaker 1: win for the White team. But let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: good stuff, because there was some fair stuff, and certainly

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Speaker 1: you mentioned some trick plays. We had a double pass

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown to Kyle Williams from Drake May, which

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Speaker 1: was a nice play. Just to list some of the

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Speaker 1: big plays, I thought Robert Splain nice day for him,

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Speaker 1: had like a diving, bobbling interception that he came down with.

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Speaker 1: Also recovered that fumble that Roubmander Stevenson had, Jalen Hawkins

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Speaker 1: coming up with two interceptions as well, So hey, we're

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Speaker 2: Side, we're looking a little positive.

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Speaker 1: But I also just thought generally speaking, Keisehan Boody had

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Speaker 1: a couple of nice catches, real nice hands catched Booty. Well, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: Pop Douglas continues to kind of show up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He drew penalty as well as how to catch. And

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Speaker 1: then the last one I was going to say is

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. You continue to see what he's going to

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Speaker 1: bring to this Patriots offense. So, yes, there were some turnovers,

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Speaker 1: but there were also some some fun moments for the crowd,

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Speaker 1: and certainly I think the season ticket holders in the

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Speaker 1: Foxboro residents that we're here tonight had some fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned two guys there, Jalen Hawkins, who we've seen

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Speaker 4: play a lot in that deep safety role, and one

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Speaker 4: of his picks was a double pass by Pop Douglas.

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Speaker 4: It was a throw by Pop, which is not exactly

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Speaker 4: what we're probably going to see in the regular season

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Speaker 4: very often, but he was still in the right place

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Speaker 4: and he made the play and made the play again

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Speaker 4: later on in the scrimmage as well. So looking for

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Speaker 4: that third safety, that free safety body type and skill set,

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Speaker 4: I would say he's the leader in the clubhouse right

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Speaker 4: now for that role has made the most impact or

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Speaker 4: the most splash plays. And then I thought this was

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Speaker 4: a really nice practice for you know pick notwithstanding for

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Speaker 4: Pop Douglas and for Kishan Boody, I thought both those

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Speaker 4: guys continue to really stand out. Booty ran that go

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Speaker 4: route down the sideline in the early part of the night,

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Speaker 4: just got right behind the defense or toasted everybody.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with Mike to bring up the crosser

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Speaker 3: later I think it was was that part of the

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Speaker 3: two minute drill. Yeah, I thought that was nice hand

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I thought both of those guys were active again, and

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Speaker 3: you know, both kickers, I thought in the stadium, you know,

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Speaker 3: Andy Borogallis nailed a fifty three yarder late. They I

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Speaker 3: think were they combined to go three for three on

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Speaker 2: So the kickers responded as well.

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Speaker 4: Really close competition between those two guys, Like I feel

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Speaker 4: like it's going to be tough for Parker Roo because

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Speaker 4: they drafted Borgoalis to really beat him out. But right now,

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Speaker 4: that is that's a coin flip between those two guys.

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Speaker 3: And I'll just add two. You know, sometimes inside the

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Speaker 3: stadium here can be a little tricky for kickers. And

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Speaker 3: you might say, well, you know, it's August, but it

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Speaker 3: was a pretty windy night and the wins can be

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Speaker 3: difficult to navigate inside. And I think just before they

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Speaker 3: started the scrimmage, Borgallis missed an extra point, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the open well, the old the old open end,

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Speaker 3: I still call it the open end. But again maybe

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Speaker 3: he made an adjustment after that because he was he

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Speaker 3: an extra point too. So a good job by the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just say one more thing about Pop. I

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Speaker 4: thought during the two minute he caught a little option

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Speaker 4: the defense ran like a simulated pressure where the end

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Speaker 4: dropped out into coverage into his zone drop and in

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Speaker 4: that you can tell it just Josh McDaniel's type stuff,

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Speaker 4: where if the end dropped there, like he got to

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Speaker 4: the in the drop and Pop just did it perfectly

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Speaker 4: like he saw it quickly, you know, broke out a

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Speaker 4: out and on umn and that was like Edelman Welker

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Speaker 4: vibes right, Like that's exactly that type of route and

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Speaker 4: you've seen it had a nice a million times. And

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Speaker 4: we talked about this on on PU just the cerebral

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Speaker 4: not just being able to physically play it, but also

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Speaker 4: being able to think it. I just keep seeing examples

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Speaker 4: of that from Pop that he's see He's seeing things

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Speaker 4: now that he wasn't necessarily seeing in the first couple

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Speaker 2: So a couple of housekeeping things.

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Speaker 1: There were a number of players who didn't participate, key

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Speaker 1: On White being a notable one who's generally been healthy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe just a day off for him.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps Mac Hollins who just came back yesterday, he wasn't

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Speaker 3: I think there were ten or eleven guys that weren't

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Speaker 3: some point, except for key On White. So that's something

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Speaker 3: we'll have to monitor now that we're not going to

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Speaker 3: have any access over the weekend. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: the players are off for the whole weekend, but the

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Speaker 3: next time we'll get a chance to see it will

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Speaker 1: And we also had a couple of players left the game,

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Speaker 1: which is of course the danger you take when you

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Speaker 1: have this kind of situation. With Pads Kendrick Bourne, it

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Speaker 1: seemed like you got tackled to the ground. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: to monitor. You know, he's not in the front line

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Speaker 1: of the starters right now, Paul, but they've been getting

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Speaker 1: dinged a little bit with that offensive line dep and

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Speaker 1: right now he's their top there.

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Speaker 2: There has been some attrition there.

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Speaker 3: I would still say Cole Strange is the top left

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Speaker 3: the second group. So yeah, I absolutely would say that

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Speaker 3: that is a situation to monitor because we saw this

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Speaker 3: last year. It was the injuries seem to be concentrated

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Speaker 3: one of those areas. You know, Vederian Lowe is yet

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Speaker 3: to practice, and you know you're missing Garrett Bradberry, Morgan

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Speaker 3: Moses on a pitch count. Now you're dealing with city,

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Speaker 3: so it hasn't been out there, so your your depth

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Speaker 3: is getting challenged a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it's nothing too serious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, think I just real quick, Evan, just to highlight.

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Speaker 1: I think Alex Austin is a guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: Paul's camp had a good camp. It's just a nice

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Speaker 1: way to end the practice for him. And really liked

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Speaker 1: that he had the mind to get down. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a game type situation where he's thinking about end

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Speaker 1: of game and how do I see this off and

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Speaker 1: give the ball back to the offense without giving the

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Speaker 1: a really nice end of the practice for him, a

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Speaker 4: A little bit, and he feels a little bit a

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Speaker 4: step above in that depth chart order, just in terms

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Speaker 4: of like the Marcellus dials, and I know DJ James

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Speaker 4: of as like a training camp riser. I still feel

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Speaker 4: like Alex Austin is like maybe a tier above those guys,

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Speaker 4: And even early on in camp, Christian Gonzalez was out

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Speaker 4: wasn't and it was Alex Austin who was the top

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Speaker 4: backup to Carlton Davis, not any of those other guys

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Speaker 4: that I mentioned, So I feel like Austin's pretty secure now.

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Speaker 4: Is that third boundary corner? You usually need three to

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Speaker 4: plan like sometimes there might be a matchup where Gonzo

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Speaker 4: covering a tight end like Brock Bauers, so you need

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Speaker 4: like Alex Ostin going to be that guy, and he's

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Speaker 4: kind of earned it, or even just playing over the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years, you know, in games, real games,

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Speaker 4: not just in practice.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, fun way to end off the week,

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Speaker 1: and of course a big week coming up next week

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Speaker 1: with both a joint practice and a preseason game against

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Speaker 1: the Commander, So we shift gears a little bit from

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Speaker 1: training camp into the preseason. So two days off, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back Monday to break it down for you.

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