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Speaker 1: All right here with Red Atkins. It's good. Can you

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Speaker 1: hear anything? That's the trick of the podcast. We don't

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Speaker 1: let you hear what's happening. We're making you good. Yea,

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Speaker 1: what do you do today? I wrote today? Any good man?

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a question I can't answer anymore. I

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Speaker 1: And when I started, I really thought I knew. And

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Speaker 1: then the ones that you think this is a Grammy.

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Speaker 1: It's still sitting on the shelf at my publican company.

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Speaker 1: And the one that you walk out of there going,

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Speaker 1: I can't tell anymore. So you couple boys right here

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Speaker 1: and you go at him. Now, this is another song

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Speaker 1: of the day. I don't, yeah, and it was the

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Speaker 1: demo that was different. Craig Wiseman built the track the

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Speaker 1: red red red Red, Redneck came from. Uh. Craig Wiseman

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Speaker 1: hear red red, red, red, red, red red Nick. He

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Speaker 1: Actually um. And then Dallas had to leave, and so

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Speaker 1: the little ad libs. And Dallas has got to come

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Speaker 1: Like I still don't believe it, Like like I don't,

423
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't totally. I mean, I know he is one,

424
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: but I don't. It's hard for me to think of him.

425
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: I still think I can tell him what to do,

426
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like, why are you

427
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: doing that? Stop doing that? You know? I mean, I

428
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: don't think of him as Garthur. I mean, obviously he's

429
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: not that big, but I still don't think of him

430
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: as uh as a star. I still think of him

431
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: as you better be home by eleven o'clock, you know whatever,

432
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: or did you change the all in your truck, you know,

433
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: because if you didn't change the all in your truck,

434
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: you're not driving it. Driving it this week. Um it's

435
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: weird to go on tour with him. And the first

436
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: show I went to last year on his first headlining

437
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: gig was was in Illinois, and when we pulled up

438
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: to the venue, I couldnot wrap my head around that

439
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: Luke wasn't playing tonight. I could not get it. I

440
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: was like these people, like look at these people. I

441
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: mean it was fifteen thousand cars out there, you know,

442
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: and his name is the one on the market. It's

443
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: not Luke Bryan and Ama Shrett. It was like Thomas

444
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: Rhett tonight. And um, I was like this is this

445
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: is weird. And what was weirder was going to catering

446
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: because I'm used to going to catering and seeing a

447
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: little big town or Miranda or somebody sitting over there

448
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: in their sweatpants, and it was him, you know what

449
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: I mean. I was like, this is your spaghetti? Like

450
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: you shared the sitt in Blakes, Like you're paying for this,

451
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: Like you have a full time caterer out here, and um,

452
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: it was it was just like nuts, what advice does

453
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: he hit you you have thirty number ones? So what

454
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: advice does he hit you? I about when he's like, hey,

455
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: help me out with this. It's different than it used

456
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: to be, you know, when like when he first started,

457
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: he didn't know anything about what's the publishing deal? What's

458
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: a you know? Is this look right in my contract? What? What?

459
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 1: What is my manager supposed to do? Um? Real naive

460
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: questions back then announce you know, dad, what song should

461
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: I put out next? Or Dad? Do you think I've piked?

462
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like he Thomas s Ratt,

463
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: He he thinks pretty deeply about his life and his career,

464
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: and like, I think that's what God wants me to do.

465
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: Like do you think I'm not spending enough time with Willa?

466
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: You know it's it's like real questions. It's not because

467
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: he's got his manager and booking agent and label and

468
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: he didn't have to worry about He didn't need me

469
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: to tell him all those things. She just like that

470
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: when you came home off the road, like were you

471
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: just exhausted? Like was I bugging the crap out of

472
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: you to play soccer or throw the football? And you

473
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: just didn't want to, you know, like real real questions

474
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: about especially since he has kids. Name. Um, yeah, that's

475
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: pretty I mean we've always been really close, but um,

476
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 1: it's really cool for him to finally, you know, now

477
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: that he's a dad, that we have a relationship like

478
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: on a different level, Like we can compare notes on

479
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: on kids and things. You know, do you see you

480
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: when you see him start? Not as much as everybody

481
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: else does. I mean everybody. I walk in the room

482
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: and they, oh, my god, you look just like Thomas Rudder.

483
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: They tell him, you know you it's just like your dad. Um,

484
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: if I was thirty pounds less, maybe, But because I

485
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: I when you look at an athlete, you I don't

486
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: see tr I watched the box and you know he didn't.

487
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: He didn't gravitate towards sports as well as I did.

488
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: I think one thing is when you grow up in

489
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: the in the South, in a small town, especially like Valdosta,

490
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: who's one se many football games, it's like what you do?

491
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: I mean, it is like not even a question. You

492
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: come out of the womb, you're a boy, you're playing football,

493
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: and in Nashville there's a thousand high schools here. Like

494
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: I was so disappointed at every game I would go

495
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: to see him play. There would be three hundred people

496
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: at the game because Nashville is so spark I mean

497
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: so spread out on a normal game for us, I

498
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: mean on a game that we know we're gonna win,

499
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: fifty nothing, ten thous some people in the stands every

500
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: Friday night. I used I used to do play by

501
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: play for at the time, it was Division two Soldi

502
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: State and they still maybe and they maybe. I don't

503
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: know what they are now, but I used to do play.

504
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: We used to go down to All dust because I

505
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: did play by play at Henderson State University as I

506
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: went to school and play in the same conference. So

507
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: we traveled down to All Dustin and we would just

508
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: get crushed and we go lose seventy two, and it

509
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: would be the most miserable thing calling a college m

510
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: where you getting cushcare. There's nothing to talk about when

511
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: you're getting wood. There's nothing to say that you haven't

512
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: said al and you're two minutes into the third quarter

513
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: and you're down fifty five and nothing, what do you say?

514
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: And that's not worse that. Those are my worst memories

515
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: of doing because on the road since and I was

516
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: it was I was a paid play by play guy.

517
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: And this is before I started doing Fox Sports. But

518
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have a color guy on the road because

519
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: there was a money. I have a color guy at home,

520
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't send a color guy on the road.

521
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: So I do play by play and color losing seventy

522
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: to two. So, um, alright, I formation one to the left.

523
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh sack, Well that's the nineteenth sack of the day. Yeah. Well,

524
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: he didn't grow up in that type of situation. And

525
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: so because you know, high school football wasn't as huge

526
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: in Nashville as it was for me. He it just wasn't.

527
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: He didn't grow up in that environment to to to

528
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: die to play football, you know what I mean. And

529
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: he also Thomas Shrett I could take a lot of abuse.

530
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, number one, I played quarterbacks, so I got

531
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: hit all the time. But our coaches, there's no way

532
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: in the world, our coaches from the eighties would have

533
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: a job more than one day to day. They would

534
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: get fired, wouldn't. We didn't get water, they would say

535
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: on the water unrewarded. You only get water when you

536
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: earn it. And that's and now to even say you

537
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: can't get water all the time, it would be ridiculous.

538
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: There were people throwing up. I mean we would do

539
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: rolling wind sprints and people be puking out of their

540
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: face mask, and um, somebody got hurt. The coach will say,

541
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, get off my get off you're killing my grass.

542
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: But we'll get off my field or somebody's laying there

543
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: and they go move the just move the huddle over

544
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: and run the run the playing again. And uh, for

545
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: some reason, even though I didn't like it, I could

546
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: take it. And Thomas Drette could not. He he had

547
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: to his high school coach, his little league coach were rough,

548
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: and he just he couldn't. He didn't like the the

549
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: verbal abuse of of sports. Duke playing ball. Thomas Jurrette

550
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: came along. Yeah, yeah, well and I flunked out of school.

551
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Flunked out of school and you got a kid, it

552
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of kills your football career. But um, you know

553
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: I went to Georgia and uh, you know, I was

554
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: on the scout team. I played, you know, scout team, quarterback,

555
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: scout team, the offensive the other team. Every week. Yeah,

556
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: if we're playing Old Miss that week or whatever, I was,

557
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: I was doing Old Miss and I was having to

558
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: tackle when I was playing defense, I was having a tackle.

559
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: Rodney Hampton and Tim Worley like guys that went pro.

560
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: When I was on When I was playing quarterback, Bill

561
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Goldberg was the nose guard. You know. It was like

562
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Bill gob played at and I'm telling me, I got killed.

563
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: So what was he like as a ball player? Gold

564
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: He's a beast like but but back then he wasn't

565
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: as ripped. I mean he was just more bulky, you know,

566
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: but now he's he's ripped. But when you would see

567
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: him w CW. Because I'm a big wrestling fan too,

568
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up a freaking Arkansas. We're talking

569
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: all my favorite things, wrestling, football, music. Did you watch

570
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: wrestling at all? Well, I mean yeah, every every single

571
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: Saturday night from the time I was seven to us

572
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: about seventeen. So if you if you know wrestlers from

573
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: the seventies to about eighties seven all that Once once

574
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: I got out of high school, I was I wasn't

575
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I know Stone Cold, Steve Auston and the Rock and

576
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but I don't follow it. But did

577
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: you watch the Goldberger area at all? Because you knew Bill? Yeah,

578
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: I watched the Sun, but I was like I'm talking

579
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: about Dusty Rhodes. I remember, I mean the American Dream

580
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite ye roads. Rip Flair, Um,

581
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Lex Luger Sting, Uh, Tommy Wildfire Rich Junkyard Dog. I

582
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: went to those Grand Dog, I got a Memphis and

583
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: like the first it was Georgia Championship and then it

584
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: became uh, I guess w c W. And my granddaddy

585
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: believed it so like so much that the ritual of

586
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: my my grandmoma's house was Lawrence Welk. Yeah, Lawrence Welk

587
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: Show Porter and Dolly and wrestling. And I'm talking about

588
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: my granddaddy. One. There's no doubt that that Dusty got

589
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: hit in the parking lot with a chair and he's out.

590
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: Like he took me to see Abdulla the Butcher and

591
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 1: Andre the Giant when I was eight, and then we

592
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: saw Tommy Wildfire Rich the Junkyard Dog in the Fabulous

593
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Freebird Fatherous Michael P. S As And then when I

594
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: was about seventeen, we went to Tallahassee. It was one

595
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 1: of those huge, like all night thing where you had

596
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: the smallest of the small and it was like, uh,

597
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: who were the guys that were the real college wrestling outfit. Yeah.

598
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Then they fought the Road Warriors, and then it was

599
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Lex Luan Animal, Yeah, Lex Luger and and then the

600
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: main event was Dusty and Rick Flair. And I remember

601
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: touching Rick Flair's arm as he as he walked down

602
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: the aisle to get to the ring, and I was like,

603
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: that's That's the greatest thing I've ever done. And then

604
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: and then I have Ric Flair's phone number, like I

605
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: met him. I went on tour with Brantley Gilbert Um

606
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: a few years ago and he played in Charlotte. Brantley

607
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: came off the stage. As soon as we walked back

608
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: going to the buses, Rick Flair walked by and I

609
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: literally tackled him. I went whoa, And I mean I

610
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: went up to him and just bear hugged him and

611
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: he wooed back, and it was it was a woo

612
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: contest for like, it was like the Wou Tang Clan,

613
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Me and Ring Flair wooing each other and um, dude,

614
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: we hung out with him all night. He gave us

615
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: his phone number and I've texted Hiven and called him

616
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: a few times. Do you watch the documentary I did?

617
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: It was awesome, Well, it was awesome and really sad.

618
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: I felt it was excellent entertainment for a wrestling nerve

619
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: like me. Yeah, I really thought it was fantastic. But man,

620
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: I felt so bad for him, but he was awesome.

621
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: And I talked to Dusty Rhodes on the phone one time.

622
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Buddy of mine kind of knew him and has his

623
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: phone number. We just said hey, and just as you know,

624
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I think I imitating him or something, you know, but um,

625
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: if I have a I wrote Black Shelton's new song

626
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: and the whis called lived It and the and the

627
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: lyric in the second versus, Uh, the mold Duke Boys

628
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: were flattened in the hills. Hollywood was fake and wrestling

629
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: was real like we really I believed in my granddaddy

630
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: especially believe it. Man, I could do a whole show

631
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: on wrestling like I could do that. Only Tray the

632
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: Giant documentary be seen the previous for that, I haven't, dude,

633
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Speaker 1: that's amazing. Yeah, I still having the key to call

634
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Speaker 1: off T shirt like a Russian I've got it's got

635
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Speaker 1: the Russian sickle and he's just standing there with his

636
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Speaker 1: fist up or whatever. My brother has a Rick Flair sure,

637
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Speaker 1: we can't. I have all my cons Sharat tickets, all

638
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: my tea I have in a band in my house

639
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: right now. I have Molly Crue, def Lappard Whalen. I

640
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: have every concert t shirt ever ever went so and

641
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: all the tickets. So I was like, I've always just

642
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: been the most Like I just idolized. I've always just

643
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: idolized music and athletes. When I wrote my first book,

644
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I wrote a thing passage you about Sting because I

645
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: talked about things that as I was a kid, and

646
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: I preferred the blonde haired Sting more than that the

647
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: raven or whatever that ended up being. And he wrote

648
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: me a nice note that what got to him? He

649
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: wrote me a nice, nice note and send it back

650
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: to me. And the people that you see as a

651
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: kid that were cool are always cool to you the

652
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: rest of your life. Because for me, you know, I'm

653
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: friends or I'm acquaintances with these massive artists and they're

654
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: just there's just folks. But I got on an airplane

655
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: once with Barry Switzer and he was on the Southwest

656
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: fly and I was the whole time. I was like,

657
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: you got out of your mind. He's a former raisorback

658
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: he you know coached the Cowboys held Oklahoma. I don't

659
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: care about Oklahoma, but those staying, the Barry Switzers, that

660
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, the g Arts, those are the people that

661
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I really still go Oh, that's that's it. That's who

662
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: I idolized me too. I definitely have my heroes and

663
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: I've met Um, I've met. I've met all the people

664
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Speaker 1: on my list. The only person I haven't met that

665
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I have to meet is Paul McCartney. But Make Jaggers

666
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: my all time. I picked Make Jagger over anybody on Earth.

667
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: I met him, uh two years ago. And I always

668
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: try to not meet my heroes because I don't want

669
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: to be disappointed and I don't think it's fair to

670
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: put all of your hero hope into one meeting. So

671
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: how did it go with? You know? I was disappointed

672
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: to Nick because I felt like he talked with me

673
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: too long. I felt like that he lowered himself talking

674
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: to me more than one minute. It's you know what

675
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's the old cot be a part of

676
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: any group that stop like like, seriously, you should have

677
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: quit thirty minutes ago, thirty seconds ago? Um, do you

678
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: get a picture? No? Because I couldn't ask you, I

679
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: just you don't want to run the two cool moments

680
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: that I could not ask him. Um, but Keith was

681
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: taking pictures and I went over to ask Keith if

682
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: I could get a picture with him, and his bodyguard said,

683
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: we gotta get him out of here, dude, you know,

684
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: so they kind of rushed Keith out. Um. But I

685
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: met guy Greg Almas, one of the biggest heroes. I

686
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: met him a couple of times. And Hank Jr. Is

687
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: my biggest country here. We we got to be buddies

688
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: and we fished and hunted together a bunch. Um. But Paul,

689
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, he's I would love to meet Paul. Oh,

690
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: let me talk about this, So I'll talk about Warby

691
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: Parker for a second. Have many many pair of Warby

692
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: Parker glasses. They have a free try on program. They

693
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: send it to your home. You can order five pair

694
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Speaker 1: of glasses. You try them off for five days. There's

695
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: no obligation you have to buy anything. They ship a

696
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: free and there's e been a paid return, so really

697
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: it just comes to your house. Go to Warby Parker

698
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: dot com slash Bobby order yours. They sent it to

699
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Speaker 1: in the box and you look and you go don't

700
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Speaker 1: like them and if you do like them, cool, those

701
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Speaker 1: are your glasses that if not, you send him back

702
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: glasses started Listen, I'm a glasses guy, obviously, including prescription lenses.

703
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Lenses including an I Glaire and I Scratch for every

704
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: pair that you buy a Pairents distributed to someone in need.

705
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Warby Parker has an iTunes app too, and the try

706
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: on kid at home is just awesome because you can

707
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: look in the mirror with all of them, and you

708
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Speaker 1: said you have five days, you have to do it

709
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: right now. Again, if you have an iPhone X, make

710
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Speaker 1: sure you download Warby Parker's app and use their brand

711
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: new find your Fit feature is there's a depth camera,

712
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Matt facial features us, all these measurements cool. So Warby

713
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Parker dot com slash Bobby obviously, I love them, war

714
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Um all time, Warby Parker dot com slash Bobby to

715
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: check it out. Okay, so let me just ask you

716
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: got the format for a seconds? I think that something

717
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: everybody talks about it, like, how do you feel the

718
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: country format is? Right now? I think it's awesome because

719
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: there's so many different I mean, everybody's got a shot man.

720
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean I really do. It's it's from the most

721
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: traditional to the almost hip hop, almost pop. I mean

722
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: as you can get. There's literally because I grew I

723
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: mean I love it because I grew up loving everything.

724
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I love um Hey Williams Jr. Is much.

725
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: I love Ozzy Osborne and Bill Monroe and run DMC.

726
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I literally grew up going to concerts and

727
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: watching videos and buying records of everybody. It doesn't it

728
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't matter who it was. If the song was good,

729
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: I liked it. I didn't care, if you know. And

730
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: so I think the country is now. The country is

731
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: um you know, branched out into so many fields. I mean,

732
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: Thomas Redd has pushed it as you know, he's on

733
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: the line there, he's way over the line, but he's on.

734
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: He's pushing against the next line, you know almost. And

735
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: then you got Midland coming in and going back all

736
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: the way to you know, seventies country, Um got came

737
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Brown killing it, you got Luke. You know that's that's

738
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: still country is crap, but but can rock and pop

739
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. I mean it's just I mean,

740
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: as you got everybody. So when someone says with that

741
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: a country yeah, I say that all the time, you know.

742
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I still I grew up in South Georgia.

743
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: I mean my heroes were Hank Jr. And Whaling and

744
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: will In those people, you know. So yeah, I mean

745
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that's out right now is

746
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: not country to me, um, from where I came from.

747
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: But I love me, but I'm just not a I'm

748
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: not a country music snob like that, because you know,

749
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I would drive, I would go to high school. And

750
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: I have on a Hanking junior T shirt. I have

751
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: OZ and you written on my fingers like and knuckles

752
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: like he had. Yeah. And I let it, you know,

753
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: kind of fade out like you. I wouldn't wash it

754
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: also fade just right on my note I still my

755
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: mom still has my my notebooks. I'm drawing the Van

756
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: Halen logo right here. I got the rat logo written

757
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: right here. I got Whalen's w right right here. I

758
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: run D M C. I mean, I can't say, you

759
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: know that ain't country, you know, because I loved it all.

760
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: I still love it. I listened to just as much

761
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: hip hop now as I do. You know, country, Um,

762
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: I listened to pop. People have always been saying though,

763
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: regardless of what the cycle is and whatever it is,

764
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: that it's not country. Would you think that that's fair?

765
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Was there? Kase I talked to Garth and Guard said, hey,

766
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I when I came to town, people were like, I'm

767
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: not country. Yes, I's the country's thing. Ever now compared

768
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: to you know, we were. But I mean this, you

769
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: could have this debate for ten years. I mean, do

770
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: you think Jimmy Rodgers thought Hank Williams was country? I

771
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: mean they didn't want Hank Williams to play on the

772
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: opera because he had a snare drum. You know that

773
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: wasn't country. You gotta play doghouse base and that's it.

774
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: Do you think Hank Williams would think that Whalen was country? Um?

775
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: Buck Owens told me one time, he said, man, he said,

776
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: you know how long it took me and Whalon to

777
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: make it? He said they hated us because we played

778
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: electric guitars, you know, because we were loud. Man. And now,

779
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think of anything but country when

780
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: you think of buck Owens or Whalen. Um, there's you know,

781
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Merle Haggard wouldn't think, you know, Garth was country and

782
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: Garth don't think Thomas Rutt's country, and Thomas Rutt won't

783
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: think the next exactly. So it's it's always. At my

784
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: point is when I talk to the the magazines, there someone

785
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: to call and say, hey what you say? Hey it?

786
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: This will always be the question for the rest of time.

787
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: It's always going to be the cycle and the question,

788
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: and the next one up isn't compared to the last

789
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: one out. I mean Frank Sinatra, you know, he didn't

790
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: like Elvis coming along and messing up the flow, and

791
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: the Elvis didn't like the Beatles coming along and messing

792
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: up the flow. I mean, they're all jealous and they're

793
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: all you know, it's taking up and that ain't real.

794
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure that. Uh, all the jazz purists thought Frank

795
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Sinatra was not true jazz, you know. And if it

796
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: ever does stop, don't you feel like it's it's broken.

797
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Then if it ever does stop, and just sit And

798
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: that's what I say a lot of it. If you

799
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: if you want the same thing forever, you're just gonna

800
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: get the same thing and it's not gonna there's gonna

801
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: be no growth. I mean, I am a snob and

802
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: some things like like I love old bluegrass. I want

803
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: Bill Monroe, I want Stanley Brothers, I want ancient. The

804
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: only new bluegrass is out, I'll kind of I really

805
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: like like Ricky Skaggs doing like ancient tones and bluegrass

806
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: rules those albums. That's new, but it's still the old.

807
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear new bluegrass because that's what

808
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: you grew up with. That's I grew up, and I like,

809
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: I like, and so I get it. I mean, I'm

810
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm no different than any fan out there

811
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: that goes that ain't country, that ain't hip hop, that

812
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: ain't what rock music is, because I think you define

813
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: what real music is from from what you grew up

814
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: listening to. You know, I you know, I love rap music,

815
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: but I don't like it as much now as I did.

816
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna bring up. I wish that

817
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: they were still Nelly and Um, I mean, I still

818
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: wish that there were melodies and courses in the song

819
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: You Can Still Be Tough was still hard, but his melodies,

820
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: but you had girls bumping it toft, you know what

821
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean. The hip hop analogy is great because people

822
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: now older go, hey, dude, that's you know. The twenty

823
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: one savages, the post Malan's you know it's a mumble

824
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: wrap little yachts. They're going, that's like hip hop. It's

825
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: it's not just our format where this is happening. And

826
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: some people do think it's this country, oh country, but

827
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: it's it's every single format. It was funny. I guess

828
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: I could say these names. They were curious funny. Uh.

829
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: This year on Thoma Stress Tour, daniel Bradberry and Kelsey

830
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: Ballerini were out on the tour and so after the

831
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: show we were all on toom strets Chessing Room and

832
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: and uh, I was like, I want to be DJ tonight.

833
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: You know we always hang back there and crank music whatever,

834
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: and uh, so I was DJ that night and I

835
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: was playing nothing but Nellie and um, you know nineties

836
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: rap and eighties run DMC uh Hohodini. I mean I

837
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: was playing like I was playing what I think it's

838
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: real rap music and Danielle and Kelsey were dancing and

839
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: they were having a good time. But finally they came

840
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: over and said can you play some rap? And I

841
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: was like, what do you think I've been playing for

842
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: last thirty minutes. They're like, Daniel was like, you playing

843
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: me goes, you know, like I mean, that's like somebody

844
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: going you know what I mean, Uh, I'm playing George

845
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: straight all night and they're going, hey, can you play

846
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: some country? You know, it's a it's a generational all

847
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: art always evolves and every generation fills their art is

848
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: what's the truestest art. And I don't think that you're

849
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: that anyone's wrong, But I do think that to think

850
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: that you're right is wrong. That Like, I know, if

851
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: I go, oh, that's that country, I'm not wrong. I

852
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: don't think you can have a creative opinion that's wrong.

853
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: But if I go for sure I'm right about that

854
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: not being country, I'm wrong because I'm not for sure

855
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: right or wrong. Yeah, Well we're Gonnato the whole philosophical

856
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: about art. It's all. It's all an opinion. But you

857
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: know there are I mean, you got every avenue in

858
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: the world to listen to what real country is, what

859
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: you think real country is? You got it at the

860
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: touch of your phone, now you know? And why for

861
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: ten years and people go why w and make songs

862
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: like Whalen. Well, it's all there and there are people

863
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: that sound like whalon to all you have to do

864
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: is do Man, if you heard so and so, they

865
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: sound just like whaling, and I'll go, what's good about that?

866
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like, why is that great? You know,

867
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: like like friends of mine, you know, they'll go to

868
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: some local bar and they go, hey, man, I'm gonna

869
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: see you this video. This dude sitting up on the

870
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: stool playing at the bar. Man, he sounds just like

871
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: Alan Jackson. And I'm like, but why is that good?

872
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: Why didn't he sound like what his name is? You know,

873
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: that would that would impress me more than he sounds

874
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: like Alan? You know, I mean people like familiar familiarity though,

875
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, but um, I just think

876
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: nowadays you can just if you want to listen to

877
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: old blue grass or new bluegrass, just get on your

878
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: phone pick it up. Man. But you know this is

879
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: commercial radio. You know, I write. You know, I questioned

880
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: myself all the time. I'm like me, should I try

881
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: to write a song for the radio or should I

882
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: try to write something I really want to write? You

883
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I'm in the music business.

884
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: But you know, people out there riding around their car,

885
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: they don't care about that. When you say you wrote

886
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: a song for the radio. What comes to mind? What

887
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: song did you writ for the radio? I'll tell you

888
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: a song that I didn't write for the radio was

889
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: was I Lived at Blake's new song? We wrote that

890
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: on the Farm tour two years ago, and we said,

891
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: let's write the realest song we have ever written, so

892
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: country that no nobody that was born after nineteen eighty

893
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: will get it. Nobody's gonna cut it. Let's just write

894
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: it because that's what we want to write. And that's

895
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: one of the rare ones that that somebody recorded and

896
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: and put out. But you know, I mean, it's like

897
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: you get. We write a lot with tracks you know

898
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: that we go in. I don't it's not every day.

899
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: We just go on with a guitar piano. So we're

900
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: sitting there and obviously if somebody's playing a track and

901
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: there twenty five years old, the majority of it's gonna

902
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: be sort of poplin and you know, and um, you

903
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: just kind of know you like that sounds like the

904
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: radio or you you play something, you go that one.

905
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if radio would play that, you know

906
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, because radio is pretty safe, you know,

907
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: as as as adventurous as they have gotten in country music,

908
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: it's still pretty safe and mean they they want to

909
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: know they do a lot of testing. Oh, we do

910
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of research. And that's why a lot of

911
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: trouble because I don't do a lot of research. I

912
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: just play whatever. Right, Yeah, you've done great with that.

913
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: Not all the time, because we do have someone that

914
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: programs doub music in general. But I get to go

915
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: and my company now lets me just go on my

916
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: own and if I think it's you know. But what

917
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: sucks is when you write a song like Farmer's Daughter

918
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: that I wrote for Rodney Atkins went to number three

919
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: because it didn't go one because of San Francisco station

920
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: in the l A station wouldn't play it because not

921
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: because it had cuss word in it, not because it

922
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: was offensive because it said feeding the hogs, because what

923
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: people in San franciscut Because in San Francisco. I'm like,

924
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: if you drive five miles out of San Francisco, their

925
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: feed knocks like California is the biggest farm in the world,

926
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's see. I wasn't in

927
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the format then, so those little petty things like that

928
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: don't happen. There was a station in New England that

929
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't play that ain't my truck because they said, nobody

930
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: up there, uh drive trucks. They all drive cars and

931
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: it didn't relate to their fans. And thank goodness, I

932
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: wanna call her out. Lee Adams, who who was my

933
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: rap back then now is the head of broken Boat promotion.

934
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: She went. She called every Dick car dealership in New

935
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: England and got their numbers and trucks outsold cars. She

936
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: she caught. She sent it to the program director in

937
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: New England or wherever they were, and said, well, you're

938
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: wrong about who drives trucks and cars. But I mean,

939
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: when you do this for a living. If I was

940
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: just writing songs because I wanted to write songs, I

941
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: wasn't getting you know, paid, or writing for a polist

942
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: and company, you know I would write whatever I want.

943
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: Is nobody's gonna hear it anyway. But if you're doing this,

944
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: you know you're getting paid, and you know it's like

945
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: that that bothers you. You think about it, you go,

946
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: I really want to say this, but because San Francisco

947
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't say hogs, can I put this in the song?

948
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like, is this gonna

949
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: deter a radio station playing this, is this gonna turn

950
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: the tur Luke Bryan from from cutting this song? You know,

951
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: so it's it is a thought that you happened. Then

952
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: some there's some days I succumbed to it and I go, well,

953
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: I really want to say this, but I guess we'll

954
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: say this, And then there's some days I'll just gonna

955
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: screw it. We're saying, I'm saying what I don't want

956
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: to say. I don't care if it gets cut or not.

957
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: What about this one, because this is a really country

958
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: song that was That was one that Luke was really

959
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: scared wasn't gonna work because it was two country, two

960
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: country and hunting. You know, it's just weird. You know,

961
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: we just lived in a different time and when I

962
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: grew up, I mean hunting. Never once in my life

963
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: that I think hunting was a bad thing until I

964
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: moved in nationally and and me either because we and

965
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: I hunted a lot growing up. And that's a couple

966
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: of things I want to branch it to is because

967
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: I grew up in Wet, I grew up poor, and

968
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: we ate it or we gave it away, or we

969
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: even with fish. We either ate it or we gave

970
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: it to somebody that needed to eat. And even with

971
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: what's happening with guns now, I don't think the two

972
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: sides understand Because of how I grew up in the South,

973
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: guns were at this amazing thing where we looked at

974
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: them in fascination like people who aren't around me too,

975
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: you know me too. So it wasn't a guns weren't

976
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: this thing from television. They were really just a part

977
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: of our every day. So it wasn't We're gonna take

978
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: a gun and and go do something crazy with it,

979
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: because guns weren't crazy time. I mean getting a four

980
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: tim when I was ten years old, natural thing on earth.

981
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: I've never won. I've never questioned what I ate until

982
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville because I'm fried Chicken. I mean,

983
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I want to go to Sweats every day, which is

984
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: a restaurant here and down the soul food. I mean,

985
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: I want to go to Sweats. I want to go

986
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: to Arnold's. I want to I want to go uh

987
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: to any country place. You know. I don't go to

988
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: Arrago and I don't go to big fancy restaurants here

989
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: in town. I wan't fried Chicken. And you know, I'll

990
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: drive to McDonald's probably on the way home. Um, but

991
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: it's like you're you're righting with people from l A.

992
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: And and they look at like they look at you

993
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: like are you crazy You're gonna eat McDonald's. Like I'm nuts,

994
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I've I've written a lot

995
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: of and l A. You ought to see me in

996
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: l A. I might as well just walk in and go.

997
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: Y'all think I voted for Donald Trump. I know, I

998
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: get it. Whatever, you can just look at me and

999
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: you assume who I voted for. But I was in

1000
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: l A writing with a bunch of pop guys, and um,

1001
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: they were like, Hey, we're gonna order some food, you know,

1002
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: And I said where we're all getting? They wanted sushi

1003
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: and you know, salad and all this kind of stuff,

1004
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, is there ay where I could

1005
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: get a Snickers and a coke and a pack of

1006
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Red Man And look, dude, I felt like I got

1007
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: Like the next day when I wrote with different people,

1008
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: I hid my coke behind my chair because I felt embarrassed.

1009
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: If they think that I'm drinking a coke, they like

1010
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm bad person, Like I wrote. I wrote with Andy

1011
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: grammer out there and we went and got something to eat,

1012
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: and he got a salad and all this kind of stuff,

1013
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: and I ordered a hamburger, you know, and he was like, dude,

1014
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: I haven't eating hamburger in ten years. I think someone

1015
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: like that because I do spend a lot of time

1016
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: and again, again, I don't know if I'm someone's mental healthy.

1017
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: I know it's not the healthiest food in the world.

1018
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: But I grew up in that environment and and like

1019
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I went from a four ten to uh at a

1020
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: twenty two to a twelve gauge to a thirty OT six.

1021
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: That was the big one for me when I when

1022
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: I finally But then I have friends that have never

1023
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: had any gun at all, and because they didn't grow

1024
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: up with them. It's this, it's a it's a TV thing,

1025
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: and where if you're if you're not right in the

1026
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: head and you want a TV thing, you want to

1027
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: do TV things. And so I see my friends and

1028
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: are so piste off about what's happened with the guns.

1029
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: They're like, don't take that the guns. I grew up

1030
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: with them. It's not even a thing to me. When

1031
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: uh my buddy Dallas Davidson, his wife is from Australia,

1032
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: and um, they had a kid a couple of years ago,

1033
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: and Luke Brown and I got together and said, you know,

1034
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: when she has the baby, was coming with a cool gift,

1035
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, for Dallas, Dallas's baby, and um, the first

1036
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: our first thought was let's get him a gun, you know.

1037
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: And so I went down to this cool gun shot

1038
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: and bought a twenty two, like a nineteen seventy pistol,

1039
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. And I think Luke got him shotgun. So

1040
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: he can't do any of this for twelve fifteen years.

1041
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: But but Dallas's mother in law was just because she's

1042
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: from Australia and I guess you can't have guns at all,

1043
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: and you know that's just not part of the culture.

1044
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Like she was just almost mad. I also, how in

1045
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: the world could you think of buying my grands on

1046
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: a gun? And it's because the sides are so different

1047
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: that they can't agree on anything. That's the crazy part

1048
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: to me. Well, when the as soon as you say

1049
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: gun control, it's over and the conversation is ever. I

1050
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: think we've got to have a way because I'm not

1051
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: into I mean this, this whole what's going on with

1052
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: these shootings and stuff. It's just it's just unthinkable how

1053
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: you feel about I hated the big right because I'm

1054
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: not a big fan of people having these rifles. I

1055
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: don't think there's a need for so either. I mean,

1056
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: I've never had I've never owned anything but hunting, you know,

1057
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: bow and arrows and shotguns and uh and a dear

1058
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, dear rifle. I've never owned the a r

1059
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: or anything uh like that. But we've got to have

1060
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: enough in form. Both sides have to have legit info

1061
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: to be able to have this discussion, because the first

1062
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: thing you think is I ain't taking my guns, and

1063
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: that's what all my friends think. They go, They're not

1064
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: taking my guns. To them, it's a natural part of life.

1065
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: And so two people I have other friends that live

1066
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: in Boston, for example, they're not They're no, no, nothing

1067
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: about guns. And so again to them, they don't think

1068
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: anyone should have a gun because they haven't seen it

1069
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: be a tool of everyday living. And both sides create

1070
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: their own information. And what's happening is nobody does anything

1071
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: in the middle because if you give, then you're giving,

1072
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: and we never come to any solutions because both sides

1073
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: are so freaking dug in when the real the reality

1074
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: of it is for me because I'm one of the

1075
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: few that we'll talk about this. What do you feel

1076
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: like gun control? I said, First of all, I don't

1077
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: say the words gun control. I'll say gun education, or

1078
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: gun anywhere you want to put insert. I don't say

1079
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: control though, because that has such a connotation. But I say,

1080
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: let's imagine that I'm driving a truck down the road. Now.

1081
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: I had to get the sixteen and pass the test

1082
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: to drive a truck, so I went to Hunters D.

1083
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I didn't did that in school. I did the things

1084
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: I needed to do to have a four ten or two.

1085
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: I said, but I can't just go from my truck

1086
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: to drive a bus without some sort of education improving

1087
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: that I know how to drive a bus. And I

1088
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: felt the same way about freaking weapons. You shouldn't be

1089
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: able to get an a R unless you get the

1090
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: bus license. And that bus license might be military, it

1091
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: might be, but I don't think you should be able

1092
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: to go and buy freaking a art right. And we've

1093
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: gotta have more mental checks too. I mean, there's gotta

1094
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: be if if, if somebody, if you're a therapist or

1095
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: a doctor or whatever, and you know this person, something's missing.

1096
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: You know with this person, I think you've got that

1097
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: information has got to be somewhere where gun stores and

1098
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: places can see that. I don't think they don't care.

1099
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Gun shows happened, and I've been to gun show, and

1100
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: I'll admit I've been to many gun shows, especially when

1101
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: they're younger. When I was younger, they'd pop up Oliver, Arkansas,

1102
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: so I would go. I didn't realize exactly how it

1103
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: was so every day did until you get away from

1104
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: it and you see others perspectives and you go, oh,

1105
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: I get white people can just walk up and just

1106
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: take a gun. Well, that's why the song Hunting Fishing,

1107
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: we were all scared of it. You know, we were like,

1108
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: this is really us. We're not lying about this song.

1109
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: There's not one. This was a song that we didn't

1110
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: go you know, maybe we should we should tone that

1111
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: down or what. We didn't really say anything offensive in it,

1112
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: but it was just like Luke was, you know, like,

1113
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: this is me, this is us, this is what we

1114
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: grew up doing, this is our lifestyle. You know, I'm

1115
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: an artist and I want people to know how I

1116
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: grew up and that that was a big decision and

1117
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: how my boys, you know, how I raised my boys

1118
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and so Luke was like, uh,

1119
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, boys, uh, this one might not make it.

1120
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: You know. It went to number one, you know, but

1121
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: we really were thinking it might die fifteen or something.

1122
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: You know. I gotta tell you, I never I never

1123
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: heard any kickback on I didn't from my position a

1124
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: song that there was a lot of thought it into

1125
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: should we can, we will we? I never and I

1126
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: hear kick back about everything. Yeah, you know it's weird.

1127
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: This song and Dirt on My Boots are the two

1128
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: songs that I get nothing but dude, I love that

1129
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: song from l A Riders and from people who don't

1130
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: who don't write songs that country, you know what I mean.

1131
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 1: They're like when that song came on, you wouldn't believe

1132
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: how many songwriters and tern were like, dude, hunting fishing

1133
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: this bomb man and Dirt on My Boots is freaking awesome.

1134
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: I was talking to Katy Perry because I'm doing Idol

1135
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: this season on the Mentor, and so she said, I

1136
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about Luke Brian. I just know that

1137
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: one song, Hunting Fishing that's what that was the one

1138
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: song she said she knew that Luke did. Was that

1139
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: because I heard this one song, I didn't even think

1140
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: it was real. She goes, it was like hunting and

1141
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: fishing and loving. So yeah, that's the one. Even her like,

1142
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: that's the one. But I think that others are like

1143
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: when I hear when I hear a rap song or

1144
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: a rock song or whatever, I mean, why do people

1145
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: why did why did young seventeen year old English kids

1146
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: in the sixties decide that a sixty year old black

1147
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: man from Mississippi is what they wanted to listen to?

1148
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: They have nothing in common at all, but they heard

1149
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: it and they went, dude, that's real, you know what

1150
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean? Talk about that specifically? Why did Keith and

1151
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: Mick and Eric Clapton and Robert Planting. I mean, these

1152
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: kids have nothing to do with the South in America

1153
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: and they and they they built their career on on

1154
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: these songs. And I think, you know, when something's real,

1155
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: I think when I think, like, there's probably a lot

1156
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: of people out there that they don't like country music,

1157
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: but if they heard hunting fishing, they might not understand it,

1158
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: they might not agree with or whatever. They go that

1159
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: was real, man, you know what I mean, they didn't

1160
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: they didn't fake that. I mean, you couldn't make that up.

1161
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: I think that's what draws people into other genres, you know.

1162
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: So um, I was proud of that song because we

1163
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: were really scared, you know that, that we weren't gonna

1164
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: be allowed to let the let those words be heard.

1165
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: But thank goodness it did. I mean, I gotta I'm

1166
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: obviously here to the whole library here, but man, you

1167
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: got a bunch of on I mean printing money. You

1168
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: got money factory at your house, and I don't spend

1169
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: any of it. Are you pretty tight? I'm still drying well.

1170
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: I did buy a truck last year, but I still

1171
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: have my two thousand and eight for um. But I've

1172
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: type with you know, hunting me and stuff. But I

1173
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I didn't really want to buy a

1174
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: new truck. The only reason I bought one is because

1175
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I researched it for like three months until they got

1176
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: so tired of me that I think they sold it

1177
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: to me for ten thousand less than the sticker to

1178
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: get rid of us. This one. I was honestly surprised

1179
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't for song of the year. I really was.

1180
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I thought it should have been It's hard to was

1181
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: a four week when what I heard it was four

1182
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: week number one, but it was. I think more people

1183
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: in America heard that song this year than than any other.

1184
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: The audience impressions were We're the biggest or body like

1185
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: a back road maybe was finished by the time this

1186
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: came out, because nothing beats that really an audience impressions,

1187
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: But I guess for two thousand and seventeen that song

1188
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: was the biggest. That was another farm tour song. Wrote

1189
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: it in the back of the bus in two thousand

1190
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: fifteen on the day that the farm tour got rained out,

1191
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: So we were sitting like uh back hose, I mean

1192
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: uh bulldozers were literally pulling the buses out back backstage,

1193
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: and we just sat in the back of the bus

1194
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: and and wrote this, and um, I was a little

1195
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: tired from the night before. I just put one pass

1196
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: down on the microphone and I told Kyle, the guy

1197
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: who was recording it, I said, UM, when we get

1198
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: back to Nashville, I'm gonna put a real vocal on that.

1199
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna sing it really good and all that.

1200
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: Once again, as another thing, like Boys round Here where

1201
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: it got pitched. I didn't want it to be pitched

1202
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: because I thought I sounded terrible on it, and um,

1203
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Dustin loved it, and uh, when he went to sing

1204
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: it in the studio, he sang it, and the label

1205
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: and everybody were like, it's good, but it sounds too good,

1206
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: like we've fallen in love with the demo and Rhett's

1207
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: lazy voice. Can you can you uns sing it? And

1208
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: so when he went in the studio to sing it,

1209
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: he laid on the couch while he's sang while he's

1210
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: sang this vocals to to make the annunciation be more lazy,

1211
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: and they just said, just don't care, just sing it,

1212
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: you know. So that's weird how what I think sucks

1213
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: other people like, and then sometimes what I like other

1214
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: people sucks. You just suck your stuff. Ross, we were

1215
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: talking about our friend Ross Copperman. One of my favorite

1216
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: Ross quotes. Um, he's a songwriter producer in town, and um,

1217
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: I do the same thing with Ross, but hey, let

1218
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: me come back tomorrow and I'll re sing that or whatever,

1219
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: and uh, and Ross was like, when we started getting

1220
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: more cuts with my terrible vocal, what I thought was terrible.

1221
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: And I asked Ross and said, why do you think,

1222
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: Why do you think these people are cutting our songs

1223
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: with my vocal is so bad? I said, Is that

1224
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: you think because I don't care and maybe I'm singing

1225
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: it just with more emotion and I don't care if

1226
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: it's in tune and this, and that you think they're

1227
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: like buying into my real natural singing voice better? And

1228
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: he got no, I just think they think it's bad

1229
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: and they can sing it better than you do. I

1230
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: was like, thanks, Ross, I thought I had. I thought

1231
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: I was pouring out in my heart and soul here,

1232
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: but uh, I was talking to Ross. I was with

1233
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: Ross over the house his place before I came over here.

1234
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know, I don't I don't really know.

1235
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: We've we've met in passing a couple of times, very briefly.

1236
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't really know him. He kind of looks like

1237
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: he beat me up, Like is he He's like, Oh,

1238
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: he's the nicest guy, dude, He's the nicest guy. You're

1239
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna love him. I was like, he's funny. He is

1240
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: funny man. We we just make fun of even joke

1241
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: with him all the time. And he's fantastic writer. This

1242
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: town is full of talent, man, I'm telling this. I

1243
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any other city on earth with

1244
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: there's a much songwriting talent, especially capital in an area. Yeah,

1245
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: I know l A's full, Yeah, New York, London, all

1246
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: of you know, Austin, Texas. But there's there's something about

1247
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: about Nashville. It's like one big high school, you know

1248
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: what I mean? Good and bad. Yeah, It's like, you know,

1249
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: I heard something in this co write and then tomorrow

1250
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: I told what I heard. They singing edge. You know.

1251
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: It's like going from English to history classes. You hear

1252
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: bradon Jenny broke up. You know what I mean. It's

1253
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: like rumors. No, you can't say anything and without the

1254
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: whole road know it in in thirty minutes, you know,

1255
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: But it's awesome. I'm gonna run through a few of these.

1256
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: He wrote this for Thomas Rrette with Thomas Ratty Change,

1257
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: Did you wake up? Change? I don't think I care.

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01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,479
Speaker 1: He texts me about that long a couple of weeks ago.

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: Can we think about this song? I think I think

1260
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: it's a great song because I think it works. It's like, yeah,

1261
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: of course it works. Yeah, that's a real one man.

1262
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: That's that. That was what he said. He said, is

1263
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: it too real? I said, you can't be too real,

1264
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: but there's not something it's too real. Yeah, he's a

1265
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: warrior man, just like you know they, I mean, all artists.

1266
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how successful I've I've I've been around

1267
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: the most successful people in cometry, music, and you know,

1268
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: and got to know him really well. You know, on

1269
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: the fans think, God, they just got it together in

1270
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: their lives awesome and they don't worry about nothing. I

1271
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: was like, dude, you have no idea how much your

1272
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: hero worries. I wrote, I just metched my second book,

1273
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: and I wrote a whole thing about it. That where

1274
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter how big the artist is. They're still

1275
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: reading the the negative think somebody says on Twitter and

1276
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: calling their other super famous friends, going, man is really

1277
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: bumming me out. Humans are human deleted. He hadn't been

1278
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: on Instagram in forty days, you know, because he can't.

1279
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: He could have little. He gets five hundred thousand likes

1280
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: every picture he puts on there, and you know, twenty

1281
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: thousand comments or whatever. If nineteen thousand, nine hundred ninety

1282
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: nine said you're the greatest thing God ever created. And

1283
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: one dude says you ain't country. He's done. You know

1284
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like that's that's the one comment.

1285
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: But I was like that too. It was like that

1286
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: one that one guy at the show that just wouldn't

1287
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: tap his foot, that was just staring at me, like

1288
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: you suck. You know. I thought about him the rest

1289
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: of the night instead of the other people that that

1290
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: like the show. And I just think that's created of people.

1291
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: These are our babies, you know what I mean. It's like,

1292
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an artist, just like you write something,

1293
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: you play something, you do your show. When one person

1294
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: calls in, it was like, dude, you're terrible. You know,

1295
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: you're not funny. Whatever, it does hang with you, it

1296
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: bothers you because this is your baby, you know. So,

1297
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: but it's cool that that that our biggest heroes in

1298
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: our favorite artists are just humans. Also, yeah, you don't

1299
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: grow out of having natural human feelings because they had

1300
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: Our heroes had them as they were in their less

1301
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: than mature stages of artistry. And they don't go away.

1302
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: If anything, they may get worse. And so man, let

1303
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: me don't do the baby made you a couple of blocks. Aldine, Man,

1304
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: I get this guy? How about got your heads? I

1305
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: don't want let me ask you this. Are there any

1306
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: number ones that you just don't remember writing? No, because

1307
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm um, well they all everybody calls me the you know,

1308
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: human jukebox or as rat. He knows you know what

1309
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know why that. My brain always

1310
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: just remembers songs and things. Um, I guess because I'm

1311
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: so amazed that we wrote something that worked. I do

1312
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: remember pretty much every situation. That's one of the first

1313
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: songs we wrote with uh with Luke. We wrote that,

1314
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: guys in like two thousand nine or ten. What about

1315
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: writing with Thomas right? How is that? How is that dynamic?

1316
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: It's awesome, man, It's it's never we've been right. I

1317
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: could send you pictures of me and him, videos of

1318
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: him when he's eight years old and we're writing songs together.

1319
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: We've always done it for fun. Never in a million years,

1320
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, did we think we'd be doing it professionally together.

1321
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: But it's not weird at all. You would think, you know,

1322
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: we're writing a love songs. It seems weird, like, let's

1323
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 1: writ let's let's write a love song with your son

1324
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: or with my dad. I don't know what's weird, You're like,

1325
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: write love song my dad right now? You know what

1326
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean? But um, we're just buddies. I mean, I'm

1327
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: still his dad and I you know, and we still

1328
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: have that role where he's my son and I'm his dad.

1329
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: But but at the same time time we've grown to

1330
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: beat buddies also, you know, And so we can just

1331
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: sit in the room together and and and write anything

1332
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: and and uh, life changes was one of those where

1333
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: we just told the truth about his story. Yeah, you know,

1334
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: we wrote that in two thousands and tens. There's no

1335
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: demo of it. He found it on YouTube. So he

1336
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: found what he found himself singing it at a radio

1337
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: station in two thousand and eleven. Yeah, and thought, oh,

1338
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: I forgotten that song. And a lot of his fans

1339
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: had had searched all his YouTube videos and they found

1340
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: it that when you're gonna put Start of the Show out,

1341
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, and so um, when they did the deluxe

1342
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: package on on his last album, um, he said, yeah

1343
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: that dad, this song has just been sitting around and

1344
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: all my fans here and they requested in my meet

1345
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: and greets and stuff, and he goes, let's do it.

1346
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: So he thought, you know what, he thought it was

1347
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: too progressive, you know, like he that doesn't sound progressive.

1348
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds a little pop, but it doesn't

1349
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: sound way out of the box. But in two thousand

1350
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: ten or eleven, gosh, that was that was like Bruno

1351
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: Mars or something. You know. Most nervous ever been by

1352
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: the song of my Life this one, because Thomas Shredd

1353
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: had already had two singles out before this one. He

1354
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: had beer with Jesus and uh, something to do with

1355
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: my hands and they both went to about fifteen and um,

1356
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: he was worried the label. You know, it's like, we

1357
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: really got we need We've done good and we're happy

1358
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: with what we've done, but we need a smash. And um,

1359
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: I think I heard you played it the first time

1360
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: when you when you said, okay, guys, you know this

1361
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: is brand new one from Thomas hreett Like I almost

1362
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: threw up not a lot Land. As soon as I'm

1363
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: bound out here, I was like, this is not a hit.

1364
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: It's not a hit. It's not a hit. I was like,

1365
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: I've ruined my son's career. He's done like, I was

1366
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: panicking when you played that song. At what point did

1367
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: you go cat we got it? When he played um.

1368
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: I went on the road with him and he played

1369
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,479
Speaker 1: in Missouri at this little club called the Blue Note,

1370
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: and this song. I mean, I don't even think it

1371
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: was out of the thirties or whatever. It was probably

1372
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: a six hundred seat college crowd. They went nuts as

1373
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: soon as as soon as they went those drums came

1374
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: on and the down down the crowd went nuts and

1375
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: sang every single word. And that's like, okay, you see

1376
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: the upcoming hit that, yeah, exactly, But that one worried me.

1377
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm nervous. I'm nervous every time one of

1378
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: my singles comes out, but it was when it's on

1379
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: your with your kid, It's like, if it fails, then

1380
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: I you know, I ruined my son's life, you know.

1381
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: I think about that with every artist. I mean, if

1382
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: if Luke puts a song out, I'm just like, gosh, Lord,

1383
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: please don't let this be the one that doesn't work.

1384
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to be the guy, you

1385
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: know that screwed Luke Luca. But it's very nerve wracking

1386
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: when it's your own kid. It's like watching him pitch

1387
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: in the World Series. You know, you can't watch it,

1388
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: but you have to watch it, and you're nervous of

1389
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: everything they're doing. Well, I've enjoyed you coming up with

1390
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: the house. I appreciate that. Well. I think we're hanging

1391
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: out again coming up. I think we're going to this wrestling.

1392
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, we are. If you're going, Yeah,

1393
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: it's Mankind, Foley, Yeah, whichever the mini names. That's funny

1394
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: because we are going to do that. Speaking of wrestling,

1395
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't even think about that. Yeah. Yeah, he's telling

1396
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: a story and it's like a at a comedy club.

1397
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: But it's freaking Mick Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack remember the

1398
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: cat Jack days when he was Captus Jack barely And

1399
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: I think I was out of us and by that point,

1400
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't. I don't. He wasn't George,

1401
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't huge. And the Southeast I don't think it's

1402
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: it's funny when you said that, you know, Georgia, what

1403
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: was because Mit South is where I was Georgia Championship

1404
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: Georgia because we had like Bob and Brad Armstrong. It

1405
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: was mostly local Atlanta Wrestlers. But that's what turned into

1406
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: WWS and then Turner had it because it was in Atlanta.

1407
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, TBS was in Atlanta, which turned it into

1408
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: the national just like the Braves. You mean, that's why

1409
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: the Braves were the America's favorite team because everybody got

1410
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: to see him. I tell I knew who Del Murphy

1411
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: was exactly he was. I was a huge Dale Murphy

1412
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: freak man. Saw M a direed Cubs fan, partially for

1413
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: the same reason because w g M was in everybody's house.

1414
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: You go up in Arkansas, you don't have a team.

1415
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: And so my stepdad, with a huge Cubs fan because

1416
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: he got to watch them, pass it on to me.

1417
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: So the same thing. I watched the Braves because the

1418
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: Cups never play at night. This is still day game

1419
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: only because they have lights. So I watched the Cups

1420
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: of the daytime geting from school and I watched the Braves.

1421
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: Grandma got w g M two, so we watched them

1422
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: and like Bozo the Clown and Dude Bozo the Yeah,

1423
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: the Great freaking Grand Prize Game. We thought the six

1424
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: Cups and I would have never seen it without cable TV.

1425
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: If you get number six, I know exactly what you're

1426
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: talking about. Well, let's I appreciate you coming by. I

1427
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: know you got some hit songs to go, right, but

1428
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: a good talking to you. And now when I see

1429
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: I'll be like, hey, yeah, remember me, it's Billy. I

1430
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: mean he came up with my house. Yeah. Welcome back

1431
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: next time. And by the way, check out Christian Bush's

1432
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: podcast called geeking Out. Just search forward and we'll see

1433
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: you next time here on the podcast m