1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Turnout affair. I mean, it wasn't a low turnout affair 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: in New Jersey or New York or Virginia. And it 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a low turnout affair in California either. And so 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: this was not a situation which you had very few 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: people voting and you know, you just had quirky things happen. 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: This was, as you say, and energized electorate that made 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: a decision that they had had enough and that they 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: were going to stand up for democracy in California. It's 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: not just that it was high turnout for what you 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: call a process. 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: But think about it. 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: If I had told you a year ago that there 13 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: would be a ballot initiative in California to undo a 14 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: nonpartisan commission map and put in place a partisan map, 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: you would have told me I was crazy. If I 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: had also told you that in Virginia, the way in 17 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: which Democrats would rescue frankly one of their more difficult 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: candidates for attorney general would be by pivoting towards the 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: promise of redrawing maps that that would energize and galvanize 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: electorate and flip you know, thirteen state house seats. Along 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the way, you would have said I was. And finally, 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, Chris in Maine. You know how many times 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: have you and I been lectured by Republicans about how 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: popular voter ID is. Well, voter IDE was on the 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: ballot in Maine and it got smoked. I mean, it 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: lost by twenty points in Maine, which, as you know, 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: is a kind of purple state. So there was a 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of democracy on the ballot last night, and democracy 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: won our. 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: Governors moving out of their mansions in Virginia. I actually 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: I had a call with Steve Bannon last night and 32 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: interviewing him for the newsletter to see what his take was. 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: The tea and he. 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: You know, his take is sort of like Carl Rose's 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: take and Newt Gingrich's take, which is. 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: We had a lot of work to do. 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: Democrats figured out how to run on affordability, Democrats figured 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: out how to win on populist issues, and we were 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: running traditional campaigns straight out of nineteen ninety, you know, 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: old Republican style campaigns, which is, whe're going to cut 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: taxes and we're going to fight against. 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: The state government. 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: And what Bannon said about Svanberger and Cheryl was they 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: went straight to people's pocket books. They went straight to 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: their dinner tables and they talked about affordability, they talked 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: about higher electric bills, and he said, that's why it 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: wasn't even a close fight. He thinks that this election 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: and the Democrats sort of adapting and adjusting, and whether 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: it's in New York or Virginia or up in New Jersey, 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: he says, it's going to be, you know, the future 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: is going to be right wing populism versus left wing 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: populism and Democrats he thinks, have a lot of reasons to, 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: you know, to follow up on some of those successes. 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Look, Donald Trump's big lives have not going away, and 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: election of nihilism is still in full force in the 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party, and unfortunately, we're going to see it in 57 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six elections. I think Donald Trump, and 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: by the way, in the lead up to this election, 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: remember Donald Trump over the weekend said that there was 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: already massive fraud in California. Yeah, and you know, he 61 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: already and the White House already said that they needed 62 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: to clamp down and pass new executive orders as before 63 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: the results even came in. I think this morning, Donald 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: Trump woke up and had a choice he could either 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: claim that, you know, seventeen point defeats were actually the 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: results of fraud, or he could just blame everyone else. 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: And he went with blame everyone else. So I don't 68 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: think that he's going to be able to do that 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six when it's Congress that's on the line, 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: when it's curbing his power. As much as he likes 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans and positions of power in governorships, it's not 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: crucial to his power in the same way it is 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: with Congress. So I expect we will see the full 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: bag of tricks back for twenty twenty six. 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: I think a week from Friday is the last day. 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, order of the Palace, which. 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: I was visited yesterday, and it's very nice and be 78 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: a nice move forward, but yeah, you're you're absolutely right. 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: We talked about this yesterday and it sounds like Steve 80 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,559 Speaker 4: and understands this well, which is staying away for Democrats 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: from all of these social issues that dog them a 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: year ago and have dogged them for the last couple 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: of years, and just saying yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: about what's really important. The fact that you can't afford 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: to buy groceries that you can't buy a house until 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: you're forty years old in this country, all the things 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: that are so true in this country right now, and 88 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: so Abigail Spanberger, Mikey, Cheryl, Mom, Donnie in New York City? 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: Are those skills? Are those messages transferable? Democrats seem to 90 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: think so now as they move ahead a year from 91 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: now to the midterm elections. You mentioned Joe former Republican 92 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 4: House Speaker Gingrich, he too is warning Republicans they have 93 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: a major problem now. After Tuesday's election results. In an 94 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: interview with The New York Times, Gingrich said he believes 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: President Trump is right about his absence on the campaign trail, 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: meaning voters stayed home, a challenge Gingrid says the party 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: has to confront. 98 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: Gingrich told the. 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: Times, quote, Republicans need to confront that we had a 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: bad night and that it didn't have to be a 101 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: bad night. You can't just shrug your shoulders and say, gee, 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 4: if only we could run Donald Trump every time, because 103 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: you can't do it. When you talk about twenty six 104 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: and twenty eight. Republicans have to find a way to 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: motivate the base Trump voter to come out and vote. 106 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 6: The role of the church is to preach the Gospel, 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: and just a couple of days ago we heard Matthew's 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 6: Gospel Chapter twenty five, which says Jesus says very clearly, 109 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 6: at the end of the world, we're going to be asked, 110 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 6: you know, how did you receive the foreigner? Did you 111 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 6: receive him and welcome him or not? And I think 112 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 6: that there's a deep reflection that needs to be made 113 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 6: in terms of what's happening. Many people who've lived for 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 6: years and years and years, never causing problems, have been 115 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 6: deeply affected by what's going on right now. The spiritual 116 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 6: rights of people who have been detained should also be considered, 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 6: and I would certainly invite the authorities to allow pastoral 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: workers to attend to the needs of those people. Many 119 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 6: times have been separated from their families for good the 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 6: amount of time. No one knows what's happening, but their 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 6: own spiritual needs should be attended to. 122 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: I have noticed over the past week or so the Pope, 123 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: the American Pope, speaking out repeatedly about the importance of Catholics, 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: if they are good Catholics, to go out and to 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: welcome the foreigners, citing the good Samaritan. 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: Versus in Luke Jesus. 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: Is explaining who your neighbor is. The Pope says, we 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: will be judged by how we welcome foreigners. And you 129 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: have now the archbishops in Chicago, when Washington across the 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: country delivering powerful messages. The Pope even at one point suggesting, 131 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: it's hard to call yourself pro life if you support 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: such horrific treatment of those who are alive, our neighbors, 133 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: as Jesus would say, our neighbors the foreigner. 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: This is what Jesus said. 135 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: So if you have a problem with that, don't even 136 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: take it up with the Pope. 137 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: If you're claiming. 138 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 3: To be a Christian, takeing up with Jesus, because that's 139 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: what he says. And so yes, this is as we 140 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: see the Church get more and more involved in the 141 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: protecting of the dignity of human beings, of God's children, 142 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: you are going to see this become a more difficult 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: political issue. Yes, even for Republicans who turned the blind 144 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: eye to everything that Jesus said in the New Testament 145 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: about welcoming foreigners but being kind to the least among us. 146 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: It's just again, this is something that Pope has started 147 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: talking about something he's not going to stop talking about. 148 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 149 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people. 150 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: You're not going to free shot all these networks lying 151 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: about the people. The people have patt a belly full 152 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: know you've tried to do everything in the world to 154 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's 155 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: going to happen. And where do people like that go 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: to share the big line? Mega media? I wish in 157 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: my soul, I wish that any of these people had 158 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: a conscience. 159 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 160 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country. 161 00:08:54,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: Will be saved. Here's your host, Stephen Kvan Thursday, sixth 162 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: November year of early twenty twenty five. President is going 163 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: to come on at eleven tentatively from the Oval Office. 164 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what that's about. I assume it's going 165 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: to hear maybe something about drug pricing. Some moves President 166 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: Trump is making, obviously to with this agenda. He's got 167 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: to make people's lives better, at least make the economy 168 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: hum more, and then people can figure out what they're 169 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: going to do with their own lives. He's not there 170 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: to control it. I got up on ghetta right now. 171 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: This is why getters free. So if you want to 172 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: go and see all of my brilliant early morning thinking, 173 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: it's not simply affordability. What I was trying to say 174 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: is it's affordability is part of the issue. This way, 175 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: we've had Dave Walsh on for so many years talking 176 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: about the key for affordability and driving costs down is 177 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: a full spectrum. Energy dominates, right, and President Trump's gaining that. 178 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: That's when he responds, hey, costs, you know things are 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: coming down because the energy costs are coming down. Obviously, 180 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: other issues of affordability have to be attacked. And you're 181 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: going to see what the situation because tariffs are not 182 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: there's no demonstrable evidence at all that tariffs are driving 183 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: up prices, tariffs are adding to revenue coming into the treasury. 184 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: Because remember, if you can actually show that prices are 185 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: rising because of tariffs, they would be you know, browbeating 186 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: you every day now the Supreme Court, and let's be 187 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: blunt yesterday, I don't think it was a grade day 188 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: for the home team, and making the argument it seem 189 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: pretty skeptical. Now, oral arguments are just oral arguments. The 190 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: briefings themselves were very impressive. That's why I had David Lynch. 191 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: And David Lynch is not MAGA. He's the first to 192 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: admit that. David Lynch, you know, from the World's Worst 193 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: Bad But Lynch, who starts off as a globalist, talks about, Hey, 194 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: the bunch of stuff they believed under the Clinton Bush, 195 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: particularly Clinton, just turned out to be fundamentally wrong. And 196 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, either say they lied to people or misrepresented 197 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: about what was going to happen to the American worker, 198 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: the World's Worst Bet, how the globalization gamble gamble went wrong, 199 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: and what you can do to make it right. Anyway, 200 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: it's a book that you are to try to get 201 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: he said yesterday that and this is why I want 202 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: to make all the filings available to you. You said, when 203 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: you read the briefings, it's much more impressive than the 204 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: oral argument. And he actually came from I think this 205 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: thing could potentially get blown out by the Supreme Court, 206 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: that hey, it's a fifty to fifty coin toss. So 207 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: that gets back to not just affordability, but the other 208 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: part of affordability. You cannot just focus moniacally on affordability alone, 209 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: and everybody's jumping in. It's twofold. It's jobs and affordability, 210 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: Jobs and affordability. We made a bet, the Trump administration 211 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: made a bet, and in the House and the Senate 212 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: went along with it. We disagreed with a big part 213 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: of this. This was the Big Beautiful Bill, The Big 214 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill, as Scott Besson has set on the show 215 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: for a year before he became Secretary of Treasury, on 216 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: this very show, that this was the last time, last 217 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: chance to have a supply side tax cut. What supply 218 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: side tax cut focuses on the means of production, the 219 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: capital investment you need in factory, plant, equipment, capital equipment 220 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: to drive an economy, the basic fundamentals. The Big Beautiful 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: Bill was to do that. Also, the tariff simultaneously was 222 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: to say, on the golden door, the golden door, you're 223 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: either going to pay a premium to get into this market, 224 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: the best market in the world, or you're going to 225 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: shift your manufacturing over here. That the combination of a 226 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: tax cut and particularly the ability to write everything off 227 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: in the first year right as a real tax shield, 228 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: will will drive capital and investment, and you will get 229 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: other capital investment from those companies that want to avoid 230 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: the tariffs and come here. That's the bet, folks. We 231 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: have to keep that in mind. Now, the question is 232 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: is that actually happening. We love Scott Beston. Scott keeps saying, hey, 233 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: Wall Street's gonna went out and Main Street's gonna win out. 234 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: We need to see the data. And because I don't know, 235 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: I think the fourth quarter numbers could be a little 236 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: could punt potentially be a little weak, particularly the top line. Now, 237 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: remember what I didn't agree with the big beautiful bill, 238 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: and it was on here banging away and talking to 239 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: people behind the scenes NonStop, was about taxes that for 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: the upper bracket you should have a snapback or at 241 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: a million dollars, create a new bracket at a million 242 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: bucks and they get charged forty percent. The argument against that, 243 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: and the argument they're making about the mass deportations says, 244 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're gonna affect top line GDP growth, 245 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: that the top one percent percent whatever you want, drive 246 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: so much consumer spending in the illegal alien invaders because 247 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: there's so many of them, and I don't know, fifteen 248 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: or twenty million just on Biden's watch. They spend every 249 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: penny they get either from government programs, charity, or the 250 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: work that they take away from American citizens. They spend 251 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: it all one. They have to because obviously they're not 252 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: making a ton of money. Those two elements. That's the 253 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: economy you got, folks, plus the massive Keynesian infusion. This 254 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: is the kind of structural issues of the United States 255 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: faces now. The question is are those factories really coming back? 256 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Is the nineteen trading we hear about what is actually 257 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: coming back? And one of the I think the political 258 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: interview I said, you got to designate I don't know, 259 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: Pickett Lutnik, pick a random name, maybe the Secretary of Commerce. 260 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: Every day he should be on top of We'll hang on, 261 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: behold through the. 262 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: Break still America's voice family. 263 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: Are you on Getter yet? 264 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: No? 265 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: What are you waiting for? 266 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: It's free, it's uncensored, and it's where all the biggest 267 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: voices in conservative media are speaking out. 268 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: Well, download the Getter app right now. It's totally free. 269 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: It's where I've put up exclusively all of my content 270 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: twenty four hours a day. You want to know what 271 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Steve Bannon's thinking. Go together. 272 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: That's right. 273 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: You can follow all of your faith Steve Banning, Charlie Kirk, Jack, 274 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: the Soviets, and so many more. 275 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: Download the Getter app now, sign up for free and 276 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: be part of the new. 277 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: Banky okay, welcome back. So keep the equation and you're here. 278 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: This is the equation. They don't want you to know 279 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: and understand, right, Walstreet doesn't want to know it. The 280 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: deep state, the apparatus. They don't want the American people 281 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: to actually understand things. This is kind of like the 282 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: French Revolution. Remember when the finance minister came because they 283 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: had to bring all the estates together to raise taxes 284 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: because they had help in the war against the United Kingdom. 285 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: They had helped partly they'd helped finance, actually more than partly, 286 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: they'd help finance their mortal enemy, the British, fighting their 287 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: colonists in the United States. They're financing of the That's 288 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: what it's all industry, or we link from the American 289 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Revolution to the French Revolution is that that's one of 290 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: the ways that France went bankrupt. They actually went bankrupt 291 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: on a bad, bad, bad economic model that the aristocracy 292 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: just sucked it out of the people. But what triggered 293 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: it was paying the bonds, paying the debt that they 294 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: financed for the American Revolution. And when they when they 295 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: published the and the finance minister said, hey, here's one 296 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: way we do it. We get the people on our side. 297 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: We just publish in a broadsheet. We just published the numbers, 298 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: we published the math, and some of the people see that, 299 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: they'll say, yes, we have to tax the church, and 300 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: we have to tell we tax ourselves, give us more 301 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: taxes because we'll help the crown. It didn't work out 302 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: like that. When they publish it, people looked around and go, 303 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: these guys are living in a pro versies. They're living 304 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: like you know, they're living like heavenly beings, and we're 305 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: in the sewers of Paris eaton rats. Maybe it's time 306 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: to make amends. Kind of the beginning kicked off, all 307 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: the revolutionary period, all the way through today. But it's 308 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: important that you understand. It's important that you understand because 309 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: all this talk and all that you know, it didn't 310 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: turn out etc. You led in the years in the wilderness. 311 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: It was on your shoulders that the entire thing rested 312 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: and President Trump made the most heroic decision ever with 313 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: full moral clarity, to return, like Cincinnatus from the plow, 314 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: to return back to the political battlefield, understanding that they 315 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: would bankrupt him, destroy his family, put him in prison, 316 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: and eventually try to assassinate him, all of it. And 317 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: you put him on your shoulders and drove to an 318 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: amazing victory. To do what to get lower information, lower 319 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: propensity voters, which is kind of the holy grail of 320 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: modern politics, as shown by Obama and shown by Trump 321 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: and shown by now Zoron or Zoron that this is 322 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: the key to victory. And they did have huge turnouts 323 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: and this isn't alert and we just can't sit there 324 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: and go, oh, it's idiotic. This is blue States. No, 325 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: forget that. And God loves Scott Presler. We're doing a 326 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: book with Scott Presler. I think Scott Presler's amazing, But 327 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: there's no apparatus around Scott Preslo. Scott Presler's going around 328 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: knocking on guy's car windows. It's fantastic and it's motivating, 329 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: and he's a great man in driving this. But it's 330 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: so much more than that. And part of it is 331 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: to make sure exactly before you have a plan, you 332 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: can exec you on exactly what are we trying to accomplish? 333 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: What are we trying to do? What are we trying 334 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: to do? And a big part of this is growth 335 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: in the We made a bet, the big beautiful build. 336 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: We made a bet, and I said at the time, 337 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: you're going to live or die on this bet, because 338 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: these are the type of structural things. Once you do, 339 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: you can't be swerving off them. You got to have 340 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: that absolute conviction we made the right decision and we're 341 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: just going to drive it forward. But you have to 342 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: execute on it. The President United States can only do 343 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: so much from the oval. He can set the strategy, 344 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: he can set the tone, he can set the messaging, 345 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: but he's busy trying to end the Third World War 346 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: and trying to secure the border and get the insurrection 347 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: down to this in our cities and one million other things, 348 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: and cut these deals and meet people and shake hands 349 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: and say yes, you want to be yes, come do this, 350 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: build this, and come up with this incredible strategy on 351 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: redoing the world's commercial relationships. That's what yesterday was. And 352 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: if we get a chance, I'll figure it. I want 353 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: to play the whole three three hours and maybe get 354 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 2: Navarro someone into commentary. It was a great civics lesson 355 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: for you and your kid on an enormously complicated issue 356 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: about the world's trading system, in the world's commercial system, 357 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: and how it's screwed American workers by not the second 358 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: law thermodynamics, which kind of David Lynch is still guys 359 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: believe that this inexorable move of globalization, it doesn't have 360 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 2: to be like that. It doesn't have to be like that. 361 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: We believe that as like a medieval theology for thirty 362 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: or forty years and led to the gutting of the 363 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: industrial power of the United States. That's a President Trump's 364 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: trying to bring back. That is a key part. So 365 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: growth is based upon a couple of things. One is 366 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 2: the capital investment made possible by the big beautiful bill. 367 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: In addition, and this is the addiction we have. You 368 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: have to just understand that we are addicted to fed 369 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: a Canesian infusion. There is no understanding of economics that says, 370 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: with where we are an employment and where we are 371 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: with inflation, that you continue to basically turbocharge by these 372 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: massive deficits. That is, the seven trillion dollars of spending 373 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: with the five tree and dollars that we take in 374 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: that two tree dollars essential gap, and some of that's 375 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: being cut by terrasts, but that's still there, and no 376 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: spending has not been cut little, virtually at all. Dose 377 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: didn't do it. That was all phony. Russ vote is 378 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: attempting to do it. But when we talk about recisions, Packer, 379 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: you're talking about five billion dollars here at three bion 380 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: mainly symbolic to show that President Trump's Article two powers 381 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: he has the ability that the Appropriations Bill, which is 382 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: a law, is a ceiling, not a floor until you get, 383 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: as we've preached on this show for years, until you 384 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: get the control of the spending in the gap, the 385 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: financing of that, because basically a third of that has 386 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: to be rolled over and financed. You're going to continue 387 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: in inflation because you're financing it at higher rates. As 388 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: good a job as Scott Best and these guys have 389 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: done in the bond market. But it's affordability and growth. 390 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if things get down under two percent 391 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: and are affordable if you ain't got a job. And 392 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: right now the stats are coming out of kids that 393 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: went to colleges and particularly named colleges. I think, as 394 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: some of the other day, thirty percent of graduates are 395 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: getting jobs in what they've dedicated their lives in college 396 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: and other places to learn. Graduates coming out people into 397 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: thirty five are not no way they're getting the jobs. 398 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: And you can see all over as much as corporate 399 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Americas trying to hide it that most of these job 400 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: cuts are coming from artificial intelligence. The jobs apocalypse has 401 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: kind of started. And that gets me to a topic 402 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: and we're going to explore this more. Is that you 403 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: know Navidia Jensen Wang. You know I said, he's an 404 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: agent of influence of the Chinese commers party full stop, 405 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: full stop. He may be worse than that, but he's 406 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: at least that. Yesterday comes out, China will win the 407 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 2: AI race, China will win the air. Now why was that? 408 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: Because oh my gosh, he's thing his toys of the 409 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: pran because we restricted him on selling the top chips 410 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: to China. What did I say when I signed that 411 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: Proclamation on Artificial Intelligence that scientists we had to have 412 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: an agreement among the top technology and scientists, and you 413 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: had to have then a buy off by the American people. 414 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: I said the central part of that is we might 415 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: we can stop because all they're saying, oh no, we're 416 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: falling behind China. We're gonna fall behind China will cut 417 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: him off, not just of these chips, cut them off 418 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: of capital, cut them off of education over here, cut 419 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: them off of training at these companies, all of them 420 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: go home. Look in many of these are the sons 421 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: and daughters allowed by Jing. But this is just a 422 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: the Chinese Commanist Party has weaponized you. And yes, under 423 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: no circumstances can we allow the Chinese Commist Party to 424 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: get a lead in Ai and Jensen Wang Sitt And 425 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: they're going it not first it it's not a problem 426 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: if their companies do it. Hey, just as long as 427 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: everybody's got my chips. So he even walked it back 428 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: last night. Well I didn't really mean that. I mean, 429 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's something else. No, dude, we get the 430 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: joke or what you're doing. And right now, this whole 431 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: kind of bubble and capital markets, and I showed you 432 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: the other day where they're now going to go into 433 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: the I'll pull this up from Saturday's Financial Times of 434 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: London and I will get that maybe for the next 435 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: block or thereafter. They've said about going into debt markets 436 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: two hundred billion dollars. Now, the AI companies whose stocks 437 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: are at all time high Jensen Wang's at five trillion dollars, 438 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: they're now going to go two hundred bllion dollars. What 439 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: are they doing? What has Dave Walsh been on here 440 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: talking to you about data centers? Why their electric bill 441 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 2: is going to go up one because all the crap 442 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: from climate change and all the non sustainable solar power, 443 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: wind power, all these fantasies are now coming home to roost. 444 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: But yesterday, baby, they went for it. The chief financial 445 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: officer of open AI and open Ai is getting ready 446 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: for their IPO initial public offering, and this thing's going 447 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: to have I don't know a tree and or two 448 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: tree and dollar value out of the gate. These guys 449 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: are all become the frontier lab companies. They're all the 450 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: richest guys in world. Jensen Wang at five tree and 451 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: dollar market cap, richest most powerful guy in the world. 452 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: The chief financial officer of the company, in her opening 453 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: statement says, you know, we really need a government. What 454 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: would make things easier for us as a government guarantee? 455 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: Whoa full stop? What? Baby? What did you just say 456 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: we're going to do what. Listen, this whole thing of 457 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: a new aristocracy from MAGA and all the these geniuses, 458 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, these boy geniuses that are so brilliant, who 459 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: have really never accomplished anything in their lives. I got 460 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: news for you. We need now options packages, warrant package 461 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: for citizens of the United States. Lady, when you're talking 462 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: about a government guarantee of a couple hundred billion dollars 463 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: because of the debt you've got to put up for 464 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: your data centers, they're going to suck all the water 465 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: out of every place in the United States. Where's the 466 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: options package for the American citizens? Where's the warrant package 467 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: for the American citizens? Where's a little bit of a piece 468 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: of the action, just something for the effort. These people 469 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: are out of control, and this is what we've made 470 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: the bet on for the economy. You want a storm warning, 471 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: you want a storm warning. I wouldn't trust these people 472 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: to do anything. I think they're basically besides a very 473 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: narratory tech, completely and totally incompetent. Short break back in 474 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: the warm moment. 475 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 7: Morning America has brought to you by Pfizer, CBS helped 476 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 7: watch sponsored by Pfeizer. Anderson Cooper three sixty brought to 477 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 7: you by Pfizer. 478 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: ABC's Nightline brought to you by Pfizer. 479 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 7: Making a Difference brought to you by Pfizer. CNN Tonight 480 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 7: brought to you by Peiser. 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We got the man. 493 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: We got doctor Redfieldbert Redfield in the war room. Thank 494 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: you so honored to finally have you in here, sir. 495 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: You're a great hero of ours. Redfield's warning first off, 496 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: and the President is going to be in the ovalops 497 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: I think eleven. Obviously we're gonna cut to that, as 498 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: we always do. I think it's something about drug pricing 499 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: before I get to the warning. Why you're a hero 500 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: to so many people? Why are you not and Bobby 501 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: Kennedy such a hero to so many people? Why is 502 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: it's like Batman and Robin You playing Robin? What? Why 503 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: are you not the wingman right now for Bobby Kennedy 504 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: in the government. 505 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 5: You know, I'm trying to help Kennedy as much as 506 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 5: I can. I've said it publicly many times, and I 507 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 5: think you'll be the most consequential health secretary of nation's 508 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 5: ever had. And I do spend a lot of energy 509 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 5: trying to you know. 510 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: Okay, stop why you say that? You said the most 511 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: of your guy that's been around a long time. You've 512 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: seen them all come and go. You've seen all the 513 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: different philosophies, and think, why do you think Bobby Kennedy, 514 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: who has literally no background of this except a passion 515 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: for studying this and becoming You know, we had the 516 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: real Anthony Fauci, which you know I told you read 517 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: like the phone Book, but sold like a million and 518 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: a half copies. People couldn't get enough of it. Why 519 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: is Bobby Kennedy, who's the first guys didn't really come 520 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: from this area, kind of came as interested, you know 521 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: the British say, interested amateur. Why will he be the 522 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: most consequential director of HHS, cabinet sectary of HHS in 523 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: the country's history, Sir. 524 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: I think first and foremost, because he's an open thinker. 525 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: He's willing to step back and look at the situation. 526 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 5: As you mentioned, he's passionate about improving health of the 527 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 5: American public, and he's really articulated. I think as well 528 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: as anyone that America is unhealthy nation. When I worked 529 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 5: for President Trump, you know, the reality is people ask 530 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: why we lost so many people from COVID when countries 531 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 5: like Taiwan lost so few co morbidities CO morbidities and 532 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 5: that were chronically ill nation. You know, we have probably 533 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: fifty percent the nation has a significant chronic disease. You know, 534 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 5: twenty to thirty percent of our youth are obese. So 535 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: Kennedy's really articulated as well, and he started to go 536 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: after some of the you know, some of the reasons 537 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: that that's happening. When I was CDC director, I wanted 538 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 5: to go have the cerial industry work with me, and 539 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: I wanted the beverage industry to work with me. And 540 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 5: I couldn't get the first base right because clearly we were. 541 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Are they driving? Are the snack foods in half of 542 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: what the EBIT cards go for? And the sodas and everything? 543 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: That is corporate America because you have a lot of 544 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: good people work in corporate market, a lot of good 545 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: people working fiser, A lot of people coach Little League 546 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: and you know, build the churches and are kind of 547 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: that civic society in their professional capacities. Do these companies 548 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: know that what they're selling is harmful to people's health? 549 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 5: I think so, and yet it's just it's how they 550 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 5: make money and trying to break through that. I can 551 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: tell you. You know, I'm a pretty aggressive guy. 552 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 7: I was. 553 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 5: I was an able to accomplish that. But Kennedy has 554 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 5: already He's really gotten the corporations to sit down and 555 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: talk to him about processed foods. He's gotten to talk 556 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: about dies, he's talking about toxins. You know, Steve, we 557 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 5: spent ten billion dollars last year so our kids in 558 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: K through twelve can have sodas at the lunch program 559 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 5: ten billion dollars. When I went to school, I got milk, 560 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: all right, Carton and milk chocolate or white? I mean, 561 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 5: your choice, Okay, one Carton. So I think Kennedy's he's 562 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 5: willing to take it on, and you know, maybe it's 563 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 5: his legal background. I think he's been very effective in 564 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 5: bringing people to the table. A lot of people didn't 565 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 5: think he wouldn't. I think Kennedy doesn't get a fair 566 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: shot with the media. He said, you know, you said 567 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: on more than one occasion, He's never had a good 568 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: story written about him. But I think his passion drives them. 569 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: Why is that the media is supposed to be so 570 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: progressive and so empathetic. Why on this most central issue 571 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: we have, the health of the nation, Why did they 572 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: go after a guy like like and and Bobby Kennedy's 573 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: got He's got a few warts, right, He's it's just 574 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: like Trump. All of us were very imperfect instruments. But 575 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: why did they seem to target Bobby Kennedy time after 576 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: time after time? 577 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 5: You know, I think I don't know the total answer. 578 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: I asked my wife about this last night. We were 579 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 5: talking about it, because you know, I'm a big Kennedy fan, 580 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 5: and I think part of the problem is they think 581 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: he's a trader. 582 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Being having been a liberal and a progressive and. 583 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 5: Now he turned over to work with Trump and helped 584 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: get Trump elect. 585 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: That and the MAHA movement is is kind of hard 586 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: hard welded to the MAGA movement. 587 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 5: I think so. And I think it really helped. I 588 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 5: mean Trump needed to get you know, you know, suburban 589 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: housewives and everything you know on his side. 590 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: We couldn't have won without it. And I think part 591 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: of this thing you saw on Tuesday night, we kind 592 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: of lost focus on the Maha part of it. 593 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: Again, I think Kennedy's Maha movement really helped give Trump 594 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: the presidency. Okay, and you know Kennedy's committed to making 595 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: America healthy again. I mean, this is not a slogan 596 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: for him. He's committed to it. 597 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: And hang on, hang on the two or three things 598 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: do you think Kennedy has to Because I talked to 599 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: you beforehand and you said, hey, listen, the reason I'm 600 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: not in the government, Bobby, I think I can do 601 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: more for Bobby Kennedy in the movement outside I have 602 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: more range and flexibility. The two or three things that 603 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: you think we have to accomplish now to start to 604 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: make the country healthier would be what first. 605 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: And foremost we got to take on obesity, in which 606 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 5: he started with the processed foods. Do you know if 607 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 5: you and I, there's a study at NIH where people 608 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 5: had the exact same caloric into exact same exercise. One 609 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: was processed, one was nonprocessed. At the end one's eating 610 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 5: clean and one's and at the end of one or 611 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 5: two months, the one that was eating process gained twenty 612 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 5: pounds and the one that didn't didn't beat gain of pounds. 613 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: People have said this over and over. God, they go 614 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 5: to Europe and spend a week in a month in 615 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 5: Europe and they don't gain weight. Right, So I do 616 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 5: think the process food's a big problem, and he's taking 617 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 5: it on all right. I like the fact that he's 618 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: going back and to bring back his uncle's you know, 619 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: physical fitness ideas. 620 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: You know, you get kids bat JFKs, right, get them 621 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: off the couches, off the couch, you push ups. 622 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 5: Get them off the couch. And you know, it's tragic 623 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 5: when you think I was in the army for twenty 624 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 5: something years. Seventy seven percent of young people can't pass 625 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 5: some military medical exams. That's unbelievable. Unbelievable, Okay, we have 626 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 5: to change it. 627 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: And thause those requirements are not that tough. 628 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: They're not tough. They're not tough. I mean I passed. 629 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 5: They're not tough. Okay, tough. And I will tell you 630 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 5: I'm convinced Kennedy will make in roads within two years 631 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: on obesity. All right, he's told the President he may. 632 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 5: I think he will, and I think he'll get more 633 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 5: and more Americans, particularly housewives, mothers. You know, I have 634 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 5: fourteen grandchildren behind them, because we've got to make America 635 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 5: healthy again. Do you know when we look at kids 636 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 5: now under the age of twenty that twenty to thirty 637 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 5: percent of marty have type two diabetesbetes is a bad thing. 638 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's from laying around and eating the ultra processed. 639 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 5: Food, ultra processed foods, sugar drinks, not exercising. 640 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: Drinking Some of the ten Bayon doll was in soda 641 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: that the taxpayers provide the kids that shouldn't be drinking sodas. 642 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 5: That's right, and I think so Kennedy's ultra processes. I 643 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 5: think he's going to also do something that's important to me, 644 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: and that maybe one of the reasons I navigated to 645 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: him at the beginning. He's not afraid to tell the truth. 646 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: Right, He's fearless. 647 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 5: Kennedy was a heroin addict for years. He doesn't hide it. 648 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 5: He tells people my son, my son almost died of 649 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 5: a fentyl overdose from contaminated cocaine. Yeah, thanks me to God, miracle. 650 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 5: He's now eight years of recovery. Azar called me the 651 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 5: next day. I gave a speech and in that speech 652 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 5: I mentioned that my son had almost died from fentanyl. 653 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 5: All right, And I said, you know, you know, stigma's 654 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 5: the enemy of public health. I'm not ashamed of my son, right. 655 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 5: I told my son when he came to me and 656 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 5: asked for help, and he was ashamed and cried. I said, 657 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 5: don't be ashamed of yourself. You're created by God. You 658 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 5: have a medical problem. Hang on, Stigma is the enemy 659 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 5: of public health. 660 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Well, stigmatized as obese? Your stigmatize obese. 661 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 5: We started for me for HIV, but then it was 662 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 5: obesity or this case, you're a drug addict. I hate 663 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 5: the word addict. No, you have drug use disorder. It's 664 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 5: a medical problem and I told my son. He was 665 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 5: in tears. I said, we're going to take care of it. 666 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 5: And thanks to God, God graced him to accept to 667 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 5: go into a treatment program, which she did fourteen months 668 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 5: and he's now eight nine years in recovery. Okay, Kennedy's 669 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: not afraid of it all right, So I think he 670 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 5: also will take on the challenges that we're having with 671 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 5: drug use disorder, which are huge. When I was in Baltimore, 672 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 5: my son needed treatment. There was no point. We had 673 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 5: four Catholic hospitals, none of them had programs for drug 674 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 5: use disorder. And I'm going to say, I said Archichial Glauria, 675 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 5: I said, listen, I said, I think every family in 676 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 5: the archdiocese has somebody struggling with drug us, whether it's 677 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 5: whether it's alcohol or whether it's drugs. We need to 678 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 5: be more aggressive, and Kennedy's going to be aggressive. We're 679 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 5: building some good programs for drug use disorder, and we're 680 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 5: coupled with that, most of these kids with drug use disorder, 681 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 5: they're there because they're self medicating for mental health issues 682 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 5: that aren't being treated. Right, Okay, that's the underlying scourge, 683 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 5: that's the undertand scourage and you know I say it. 684 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 5: I said it about his uncle. You know his uncle. 685 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 5: I used to do this when I was trying to 686 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 5: bring an end of the age epidemic with Trump, I said, 687 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 5: you know, Kennedy's advantage was he saw the possible and 688 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: then led a nation to act about the man on 689 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 5: the moon. Jack Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy sees 690 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 5: the possible. America can be a healthy nation. And part 691 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 5: of that. 692 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: Has to be a healthy nation. 693 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 5: And part of that is we have to shift our 694 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 5: disease system, which I've been part of for over twenty years, 695 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 5: and we need to create a health system. And I 696 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: think that's what he's on a path to do. I mean, 697 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 5: I think he's got some good people working with with 698 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 5: Oz and Badachari Big and got a good ten Mcarrey. 699 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: And when you said, you know, the truth is he's 700 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: had a problem at CDC, had a problem CDC. So 701 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: why do we not have Redfield in there banging heads? Sir? 702 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're the perfect candidate. 703 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on you. I got a couple of 704 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: minutes here, go back and tell the audience the story 705 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: about HIV and about what you try to do on 706 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: HIV in the in the horrible experience. 707 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 5: Well, you know, the HIV is a good example some 708 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: of the same challenges we had with COVID, because the 709 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 5: first problem with HIV was they never allowed public debate. 710 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 5: I mean, I was the first when I was at 711 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 5: Walter Reed in nineteen eighty three, one eighty two. 712 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: That's the old US Army hospital doesn't exist anymore. 713 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 5: When I was there, okay, I started seeing people with AIDS. 714 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 5: The illness I sold was very different. Thirty percent of 715 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 5: my patients in nineteen eighty three were women. Fifty percent 716 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 5: of my patients were married and spouses. Was very different. 717 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 2: Some of this was army personnel. 718 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 5: Army personnel, so it was they. 719 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: It contracted this overseas. You're saying it was heterosexual at. 720 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 5: The time, No, some of it was. I'd say if 721 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 5: people criticized me, said, oh, they're all liars. No, of 722 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 5: the women that I had, I'd say seventy five eighty 723 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 5: percent of them were heterosexually acquired, maybe twenty percent were 724 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 5: drug use. 725 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 2: So try other sexually acquired though from guys that either 726 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: were bisexual or gay, and just that's right. 727 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 5: I think the bisexual men played a big role here, right, okay. 728 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 5: And then of my men I had and this is 729 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 5: about two thirds of them were bisexual. The homosexuals in 730 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 5: the military were a little different than the homosexuals outside. 731 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: Well back then that was the way they could be 732 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 2: a security colas. 733 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 5: Some of the guys were you know, had sexual with 734 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: men maybe a couple times a year that wasn't their 735 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 5: dominant sexual partner. It was a woman. So about half 736 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 5: of them were like that. Half of them were homosexual men, 737 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: but about a third of them weren't homosexual men. They 738 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 5: left with a lot of women. And I had worked 739 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 5: up prostitute populations around the world and showed that these 740 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 5: prostitutes were infected. Nobody wanted to believe it. The Commission 741 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 5: of Health in New York took me on and he said, 742 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 5: you know, Redfield's data is all faults that we have 743 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 5: no heterosexual transmission in the state of New York. We've 744 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 5: tested all of the prostitutes and they're all vi IV 745 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 5: drug addicts. I asked him in front of ten thousand people, 746 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 5: I said, Commissioner, how many women that weren't IVY drug 747 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 5: addicts did you test for AIDS? You know what he 748 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 5: said in front of everybody. I didn't test anybody because 749 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 5: we know women with who don't use drugs can't have AIDS. 750 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: And I said, go back and test your prostitutes that 751 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: use cocaine nasally and don't inject, and you'll find out. 752 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 5: And he did, and he went back and saw two 753 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 5: thirds of them we're HIV infected. So there was just 754 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 5: no debate and there was no denial. 755 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: Aaron was like, we had the same We've had the 756 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: same problem. Now, doctor Robert Redfield, US Army in the house. 757 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: You use your host Stephen k Bath, not in Kenny. 758 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: Hang on, this is inside baseball. We're not going to 759 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: cut the mic. Why is Kennedy one more time? Why 760 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: is Kennedy going to be the going to be the 761 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: most consequential Because. 762 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 5: He's fearless, He's a. 763 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 2: Tough Irish Catholic dude. 764 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 5: He's passionate and the most important thing, when you want 765 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: to accomplish a mission, you have to believe it's possible. 766 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: It's Redfield English or German. 767 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 5: It's actually English guy English cut. My family's from England 768 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 5: were out descended to the Mayflower and the we came 769 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 5: over on the second boat and then married somebody from 770 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 5: the first boat. 771 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: They were all they were all Puritans. But you're you're 772 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: Catholic though, right. 773 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 5: My mother, uh, it comes from Yugoslavia, Slavenia, God bless her, 774 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 5: and they were both Catholics. 775 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: HIV. How did it get? How did you get this death? 776 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: Since everybody was against you? And I thought, actually I 777 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 2: had to confuse. I thought that they were trying to 778 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: suppress the fact that it was only transmitted by gay 779 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: so if you had any evidence at all that was heterosexual, 780 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 2: they wanted it out there because I remember the first 781 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 2: I think in the early eighties when this first started 782 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: coming on the radar, and I remember for me it 783 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: was in New York City that one of the guys 784 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 2: in the word processing department who was because that day's 785 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: in the word processing, particularly investment banking, it went all 786 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: night long, so he had shifts. This guy was a 787 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: theater guy during the day, and when he couldn't get gigs, 788 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: he'd work as an amazing word processor. That night, everybody knows, 789 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 2: he started getting very sick and very thin, and next 790 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: thing you know, he's dead. And they said it was 791 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: because of this new disease was coming back then that 792 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: everybody said it was it was the panic was that 793 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: it was transmitted with heterosexuals, and then you found out 794 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 2: later it maybe wasn't. Why did they try to suppress. 795 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 5: YEA A couple of things. First, I've always said, if 796 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 5: you look globally, heterosexual transmission is the major mode of transmission. Okay, 797 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 5: in the United States, it was first recognized in gay men, 798 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: but it really was a sexually transmitted disease. And it 799 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 5: never made sense to me because I was the first 800 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 5: person to show that it wasn't just the gay it 801 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 5: was sexual right, and yet the gay community really came 802 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 5: at me hard. And one of the reasons they came 803 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 5: at me hard is because I took the first principles 804 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 5: of medicine and I said, we have to diagnosi this disease. 805 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 5: So I promoted early diagnosis, and people didn't want diagnosis. 806 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 5: Are you probably know in New York they made it 807 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 5: illegal for a doctor to write an HIV diagnosis and 808 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 5: a medical record in a medical record, right, So I 809 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 5: fought that, and of course I was in the military, 810 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 5: and I was able to convince the Secretary of Defense 811 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 5: that this was a very important, relevant military problem because 812 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 5: in Korea we had thirty cases per one hundred soldiers 813 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 5: of godarrhea. So to for us to think we were 814 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 5: going to be skipping a sexually presiding to be soldiers, 815 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 5: that's right, And so they knew, they knew. I said, 816 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 5: the difference with now within on area is now we 817 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 5: have a deadly sexually transmit disease. So the military took 818 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 5: it seriously, and we decided to put the principles of 819 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 5: medicine on the table, and one of them was early diagnosis. 820 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 5: And so I started those programs. And because you know, 821 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 5: the military then screened everybody, and we diagnosed everybody. We 822 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 5: treated everybody that was infected properly. But the media immediately 823 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 5: said that we were trying to you know, when I 824 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 5: was up for CDC director, they tried to kick me. 825 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 5: They said I recommended putting people in leprosy camps and 826 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 5: all this stuff as all lies. You know, I recommended 827 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 5: treating people to the best of our ability based on 828 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 5: knowledge that we had. And it was unfortunate that, you know, 829 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 5: I made my reputation by nothing that insightful. I just 830 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: said we ought to diagnose. When I said that at 831 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 5: the first International AIDS Conference in Atlanta, that we should 832 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 5: diagnose the disease, I was booed off the stage. Wow booed. 833 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 5: And then I presented my data at another paper and 834 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 5: showed that about ninety two percent of people that had 835 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 5: HIV infection if you followed them for eighteen months or more, 836 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 5: it got thicker CDC. He was saying five percent got sick. 837 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 5: I was saying, no, it looks like it's going to 838 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 5: be over ninety percent are going to get sick. Guess 839 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 5: what happened. I got booed off the stage. And then 840 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 5: when I presented the data show and husbands and wives 841 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 5: infecting each other that it could be sexually transmission. Guess 842 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 5: what happened my third paper, I got booed off the stage. 843 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 2: It's very you're very consistent. We're gonna go to President's 844 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: going to come in. I think he's going to be 845 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: running late. One thing I want to get to you've 846 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: got one is what happened during the pandemic, right, which 847 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 2: is amazing, and I want to get that. You've also 848 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: got a warning, and let's hit the warning because I 849 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: because when a guy like you, who's kind of a 850 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 2: no BS guy and don't mind getting booed off the stage, 851 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: if you're putting the truth out there, then boot you 852 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: all they want. You don't care. You're going to come 853 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: back two weeks later with more data if you get 854 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 2: boot off. What is that? The warning is pretty shocking. 855 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, the book Redfield's Warning, Doctor Redfield 856 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 2: gives it to you straight with the bark on right, 857 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: it's unvarnished. What is You're warning to us? Right now? 858 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 5: So see the real important thing here And part of 859 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 5: the real reason I wrote the book is I want 860 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 5: people to realize that biosecurity is one of the most 861 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 5: critical national security threats that we have in this nation. 862 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 5: I've even said it's more relevant than China, Russia, Iran, 863 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 5: and North Korea. And if you think about how COVID 864 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 5: nineteen changed life in America. 865 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen was a bioweapon. 866 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 5: It was created by a gain of function research in 867 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 5: the lab. I think they were developing it actually as 868 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 5: a biodefense weapon, because they were trying to develop what 869 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 5: I call a vector for a vaccine and they created this. 870 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 2: By the way, to do that that then then weaponize 871 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 2: it so they had defense against it, so they could 872 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: weaponized it. 873 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 5: And they could. I have no data that it was 874 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 5: a weapon, but I really do think they were working 875 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 5: the military was trying to create this virus so that 876 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 5: it could infect humans, so that it could be used 877 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 5: to carry packages into the human body. They can function. 878 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: What the guy in North Care was bart what he 879 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: was Barrick, What Barrick was doing at un CEE, what 880 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: they were doing at University of Maryland. We banned the 881 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 2: gain of function here because it was to Lucy Goosey. 882 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 2: Was Tony Fauci when the time of the first AHH 883 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 2: Director HHS Director, President Trump got terminated the guy from 884 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: Georgia that I think he was a congressman, a doctor 885 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 2: when he got turned it in that gap that's sixty 886 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 2: years a price. When that sixty or ninety gap, Tony 887 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: Fauci slipped over to the the EOB part of the 888 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: Nation Security and got it slipped in there that you 889 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: start doing gain of function. 890 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 5: He and Collins could pass an exemption to any procedure 891 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 5: to do it, and it got slipped in. If you 892 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 5: talk to people now that were in the White House, 893 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: nobody remembers that this really happened, But it really happened. 894 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: It definitely happened. Yeah, And we proved that later that 895 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: he slipped in. We're going to take a short break. 896 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 2: Hang on, you're gonna stick with us. President's going to 897 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: be in the oval, but doctor Redfield is going to 898 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: be here. Doctor Redford may already have the inside baseball 899 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 2: what's going to happen. But stick around, Birch Gold. The 900 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: world is a herbulent place with this AI. Is it 901 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: a bubble? I'll be breaking that down over the next 902 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 2: couple of days. But let me just say this. When 903 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: the Chief Financial Officer open AI comes out essay and 904 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: her opening statement is, Hey, you know, I think we 905 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: need a government guarantee on this debt, I would take 906 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: that as a warning sign. 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