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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melancan's and cambradge Edge. Hello, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to two Teas in a Pod with myself and Judge.

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Speaker 1: And today we have one of my old friends, Jacqueline

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Speaker 1: from Jersey. Jacqueline was on from two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and fourteen, and she departed the series

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen. However, she married appearances throughout

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Speaker 1: the season before returning season seven. Right, she's been all

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Speaker 1: over the press recently because she had a five hour

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Speaker 1: lunch with Teresa sa and so do you know any

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Speaker 1: of them? When we got history, I did some research,

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Speaker 1: so now I do. Okay, God, can we can we

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Speaker 1: like give her an official grilling about what about what

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Speaker 1: went down at the lunch? Well, I want to know

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Speaker 1: about what went down at the lunch. I want to

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Speaker 1: know all about the Melissa stuff because she posted about

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Speaker 1: that on social media. Um, I want to know if

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Speaker 1: she thinks she's responsible for any of the things that

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Speaker 1: went down with the law now she's not responsible. Well

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Speaker 1: that's the whole part of the season. I know. I

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Speaker 1: know if you think she was, that Teresa would be

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Speaker 1: hanging out with her again. Well, she hanged out, She

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Speaker 1: hanged out, hang out, she hanged out with her ex

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Speaker 1: husband after. I used to love Jersey when it was

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Speaker 1: all family back then. Yeah, I love any time it's

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Speaker 1: all family. Um, so you understand Caroline Manzo's brother is

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Speaker 1: Jacqueline's husband husband, right, yeah, okay, okay, I got all that.

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Speaker 1: I got all that juice. I also know that she

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Speaker 1: was the first housewife to not go to her union

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Speaker 1: right and then and then still be on the show.

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Speaker 1: And then Dina, who lives around the corner for me,

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Speaker 1: is her sister in law who Dina was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be in Teresa's wedding. That's what we need to find out.

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Speaker 1: Dina was supposed to be in Teresa's wedding and ended

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Speaker 1: up not being in her wedding. All right, we've got

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot, we've got a lot. But the

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Speaker 1: Tresia has said publicly that there's no issue between her

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Speaker 1: and Dina. Okay, let's bring are in. How are you

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Speaker 1: my friends? Good? Good? So Jacqueline I just got a

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Speaker 1: lot on Instagram because she's moving to the o C.

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Speaker 1: Why hoefully you know are close about this way? How

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Speaker 1: long have you guys been in Vegas now four years

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Speaker 1: what what was it his Chris's job. Yeah, so Chris,

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Speaker 1: Chris's brother. He was out of it. He was always

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Speaker 1: in the garment industry since he was like seventeen years old.

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Speaker 1: He was out of it for a few years. He

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Speaker 1: was trying other adventures or whatever, other ventures. Then he

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to get back into the garment industry

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Speaker 1: in a big way, and he didn't want to pass

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. Rother lives here in Vegas, who he's partners with,

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Speaker 1: and so he took the job here because he has

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Speaker 1: other partners in California. So he kind of goes between here, California,

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Speaker 1: and New York all the time. So didn't you used

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Speaker 1: to live in Vegas? I did. Used to live in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and this is why I wanted to come here. So

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Speaker 1: we could have moved to California back then, but because

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Speaker 1: I had My parents are like twenty minutes from me,

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Speaker 1: my other brothers about twenty five minutes from me, my

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Speaker 1: other brothers twenty minutes from me. My cousins are like

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Speaker 1: five minutes from me. I'm like, we're moving to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna be hard? It's gonna be hard. To

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Speaker 1: move out to Vegas since you have so much family,

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Speaker 1: so hard, so hard to leave here because I see

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Speaker 1: my parents, like my family every weekend they're over. Now,

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Speaker 1: do you do you prefer Vegas over New Jersey? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I do. I do. Well, I'm currently in Vegas right now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious, what do you Yeah, that's this this

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Speaker 1: background here is at the Lovely Delano Hotel or I

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Speaker 1: haven't been there yet, m But my question is do

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Speaker 1: you think who do you think has better style? Vegas

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Speaker 1: or Jersey? God, that's a hard one because it's very different.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Well, if you're talking about the show,

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Speaker 1: everyone has a bad taste and the well, like New

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Speaker 1: York City, it's it's you know, people are dressing in

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Speaker 1: layers and boots and all the you know, in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: I literally live in like my workout where leggy, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm very much living here. Yeah then you'll fit right

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Speaker 1: but you'll fit right in yeah yeah great, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm more like sporty, spice like that's how I like

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Speaker 1: you know, and I don't even think I've worn heels

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Speaker 1: Now I have fifty two blisters everywhere around. I was

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Speaker 1: like this, this life is not meant for me. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. If you're moving to OC would you ever

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people's asses, but would you

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Speaker 1: think you'd eat those girls alive? Yeah? No, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do it, just because I'm at a different stage in

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Speaker 1: my life. And um, I know what the show brings.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it causes problems with like families

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Speaker 1: and friends and businesses, and it just causes a lot

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Speaker 1: of toxicity in your life, a lot of pressures, you know,

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Speaker 1: And um, I'm at a different place in my life.

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Speaker 1: I told Tamra before I said I would, I would

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Speaker 1: go to like a party, be blurred out and have

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Speaker 1: a few shots in the background, and like kind of

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Speaker 1: watch it. You're not You're not gonna be blurred out

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Speaker 1: and you're coming to a party. You'd have to sign

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Speaker 1: the release, get paid. I will send you the release shortly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Teresa recently said on Watch What Happens Live, But you

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Speaker 1: guys reconnected because you both have kids named Nicholas. I

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Speaker 1: had to laugh at this because I was like, hold on,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm always like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: this person is going to be my best friend? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what it is? I think that. Um. So

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Speaker 1: I've always kind of talked on my own page about

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Speaker 1: cast members. When people ask me questions, I'm very open

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Speaker 1: and I'll talk shit like on my own podcast, on

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Speaker 1: my own page or whatever, and I'll say stuff, but

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Speaker 1: not it doesn't always get picked up. But what I

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Speaker 1: said about Melissa I got picked up and kind of

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Speaker 1: what is the name of your podcast so people know?

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't have any I stopped doing it

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Speaker 1: during quarantine because it was just too hard with Nicholas

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Speaker 1: home that I couldn't do it. It was just it'd

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Speaker 1: be too many interruptions and just our listeners. Know. What

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Speaker 1: Jacqueline said about Melissa was that she was a liar

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Speaker 1: and manipulative and looking back, she would have handled things

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Speaker 1: different So what would you have handled differently? Me? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I just overall I would have handled things differently, I think, um,

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Speaker 1: I allowed And this is one thing when I said

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Speaker 1: my head a lot, telling me a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that Teresa would say and do. I felt sorry for

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Speaker 1: them because they really played the victim card really well

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Speaker 1: with Teresa being mad. I would see like different things

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Speaker 1: legal stuff, like literally everything. They were never friends on camera.

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Speaker 1: off camera, they weren't friends. I respected that they were

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Speaker 1: trying to keep the piece on camera. That wasn't the issue,

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Speaker 1: Like I always respected that, and I even told her

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Speaker 1: the producers were pushing me to be friendly with Teresa again,

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Speaker 1: and they were really trying to push that reunion, and

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Speaker 1: Melissa just kept reminding me how much Teresa hated me.

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Speaker 1: Things she would say blah blah blah. So I knew

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't sincere with Teresa, So I

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, hey, listen. There's just so much

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Speaker 1: the story I can't even tell you guys all, But

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Speaker 1: so what came down to you? Like stay right before

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Speaker 1: we went to vermind Melissa, I was on a shooting

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Speaker 1: thing with Teresa, Joe Dolores and her new date. It

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Speaker 1: never aired, but we all filmed a dinner together. Melissa

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Speaker 1: kept calling me, calling me, call me. I want to

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Speaker 1: know because I always told her what we filmed. I'm

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Speaker 1: always like one of those cast members who give my

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Speaker 1: cast members a heads up, like what we like, Well,

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Speaker 1: your part, not everybody on the cast, just certain people,

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Speaker 1: certain people. Yeah, so you know, um, she wanted to know,

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Speaker 1: we actually got along. So when I told Melissa that,

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Speaker 1: She's like, really, you know, she got like all like

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I she probably does, but you

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Speaker 1: we all. Yeah, it's hard when it's your actual clothes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you believe they are. They asked you to say something

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Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, but this is my question because

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Speaker 1: how she blames her flawed relationship with her brother due

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Speaker 1: issues involving Joe and Teresa and Melissa stem from Melissa

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Speaker 1: and Teresa or do you think it's Joe. I think

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Speaker 1: it's both of them. But if you know what what, well,

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Speaker 1: I do think Melissa pulls a lot. Yeah, it puts

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Speaker 1: a lot in his head for sure, because they used

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Speaker 1: to be very, very close. But Joe, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Joe and Melissa both talk shit about Teresa to us

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Speaker 1: and fed us information about Teresa. But Joe was just

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Speaker 1: as much in that as Melissa. But Melissa, I think

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Speaker 1: was I think where her anger came from was that,

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Speaker 1: you know, she always wanted to be famous, and Teresa

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Speaker 1: was on the show that was really popular, and Teresa

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Speaker 1: wasn't including them in the you know, the filming of

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Speaker 1: the show, and they were kind of insulted by that,

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Speaker 1: like where your family? Weren't you bringing us around? Why

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Speaker 1: aren't you bringing up Can you clear it up for us?

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Speaker 1: Ashley was like to me, she was like, you guys

427
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: have been through a lot of shit, and she's like,

428
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: if you guys made up, She's like, just you know,

429
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: be careful. So now that you've made up with Teresa,

430
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: but she's like, good for you. Now that you've made

431
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: up with Teresa. Do you think that you and Dina

432
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: will make up or there's hope. I've I've always been

433
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: open to that and we've the last few times we've talked,

434
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: it's because of like something bad had happened in the

435
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 1: family or whatever. Um, it was very civil, and my

436
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: husband's been to California a few times, has dinner with her,

437
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: he stated, at her house. One time, she's come out

438
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: here for an event I couldn't go. I was actually

439
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: invited to the event. I couldn't go because I didn't

440
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: have a sitter for next But it's cordial and if

441
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: I saw her, it would be cordial. We used to

442
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: be super close, and I don't know if we could

443
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: get back to that place because you know, I'm I'm

444
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: people that I've had a history with, that I've been

445
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: close with. I'm always open to to, you know, hearing

446
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: people out and being fine because it got ugly, you

447
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: know after a while, and she's family to me. She

448
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: was like a little sister to me, you know. And well,

449
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: speaking of getting ugly, um, did you know one one

450
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: was last time you spoke to Danielle's stab? And two

451
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: when did you ever see the emails? Wait? Which oh,

452
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: between Melissa and Danielle. No, she wouldn't tell me. She

453
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't show me. I asked her to show me. She

454
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't show me. Melissa, she was just like, I don't

455
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: want you know, but Danielle. I last place I saw

456
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: and talked to Danielle was that season two reunion when

457
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: she hugged me. Okay. Then I had gone to do

458
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: press and someone at the press outlet said, you know,

459
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: Danielle's trying to put out stories about you. She's trying

460
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: to sell the story about you. And I'm like, what

461
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: I thought, Like we squashed things and why is she

462
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: doing that? Then this one girl turned on her on

463
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was at the time,

464
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember, and started sending me all the private

465
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: dms where she was telling this girl to attack me

466
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: on social media, that she was putting an article out

467
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: about me, laughing about it, and then she was telling

468
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: lies to this person about my daughter that weren't even true.

469
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this is a danger a

470
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: person because she's putting out all these lies and spreading

471
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: them like they're truth and they're not truth. And it

472
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: was to me that, to me, is a dangerous person,

473
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: and that's someone I would never wint in my life. Like, So,

474
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: if you had to have lunch with one person, would

475
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: you choose Danielle stob or Melissa Gorga neither? This is

476
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: like a it's pick or die. Oh, pick or die?

477
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: Oh next, it's the worst one, maybe, Okay? If I

478
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: have to pick, yeah, and I really don't want either

479
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: of them, Melissa, then I slapper don't But Danielle would.

480
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: I feel like Danielle is like she's toxic, Like her

481
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: tiktoks or whatever they are make me feel, I don't

482
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: see them. But she's a dangerous person because she makes

483
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: up lies about people and then spread something like they're

484
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: true and then it gets picked up and it's getting

485
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: gets wings and they're not true. And that's, to me,

486
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: is a dangerous person. I get it. If you're fighting

487
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: with me and you want to come at me and

488
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: say something to hurt me, the do it. You know,

489
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: I'll come back at you whatever, But don't make up

490
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: stuff like I don't fight. Like who do you talk

491
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: to and Jersey? Now? Who on the current in Jersey?

492
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: Once in a great while? The loris Um, Kathy Achiely

493
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: kim d Caroline. What do you think about Melissa saying

494
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: that Caroline was too old and boring to come back

495
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: to Jersey? Wait? Melissa always he used to always say

496
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: that she wasn't boring an ultimate girl's trips all over

497
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: the process? Right? Have you talked to her about that

498
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: at all? I did talk to her. She didn't tell

499
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: me that much because it had just happened and it

500
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: was really traumatic for her. Whatever happened was very traumatic.

501
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: Were you there? No? Oh? Thank god? I forget who

502
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: was on there? She said, it was just very traumatic.

503
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: She's trying to process it all. She can't talk about

504
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: it right now because it was under you know, investigation

505
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: or whatever was happening, and it was just nothing she

506
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: could ever imagine, and it was bad, and I just

507
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: kind of let it go. At that point, I didn't

508
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: dig anymore because I could tell it was bothering her,

509
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: so I didn't even I'm just waiting. So here's the thing.

510
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: I always said, like, could I handle a week away

511
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: on a girl's trip. I could handle the drama for

512
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: a week or whatever. But I could never do it

513
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: because I don't have someone like that that can watch

514
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Nicholas for a full week for me to do something

515
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: like that. I don't have Like Nicholas escapes, he's he's

516
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: too big for my mom um CJ. I don't know

517
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: if he would feed him correctly, what would happen? No,

518
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you could handle

519
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: him for a week. And my husband works, so you know,

520
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: my husband could watch him in the evenings. But as

521
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: of right now, I don't have someone that could watch

522
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: Nicholas for me to go on the girls. It would

523
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: be more stress added to your family life, for sure. Yeah.

524
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: So how's how's Ashley? Um? She's good, good, she's good,

525
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: she's um. You know, she found out you know she

526
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: got diagnosed with them bipolar. I didn't know that she's

527
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: been dealing. Yeah, so she's been dealing a lot with that,

528
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: which explains like a lot of things you know, she

529
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: was feeling and going through. She okay, yeah, yeah, now

530
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: she's you know, she's she's very open about it. She

531
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: talks about it on our social media, like her kind

532
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: of steps in, you know, helping herself, and she's doing good.

533
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: She's a great mommy to her son, Cameron, my grandson,

534
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: and he calls me Glamor, kisses Glamor, he calls me kids. Yeah.

535
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of resources, I got a message asking from a

536
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: fan best resource for parents with children diagnosed with autism?

537
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Is there any advice that you can guess resource you

538
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: know who gives a lot of great resources as Taka

539
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Taca on it if you go on their website. They

540
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: she's very detailed and has tons of resources on her

541
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: on her website and like leads parents through beginning to

542
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: the end, and she's really good with us. I would

543
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: look on yeah, I would look on there for the start.

544
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many but okay, we've got to

545
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: do three final rapid fire questions to close us out.

546
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: First one, is there hope for Melissa and Teresa? And

547
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: do you think the show needs both? I don't think

548
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: the show needs both, And I don't think there's hope

549
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: because there's so much damage that's been done in a

550
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of trust. It would have to be like years

551
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: after both of them are off the show and maybe

552
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: find their way back to each other. But as long

553
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: as they're both on the show together, they're never gonna

554
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: be like fully d I think if one of them

555
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: does get let go, it's and I's gonna be worse

556
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: between the two of them. Yeah, I agree, I worked

557
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: them both on the well Teresa and Louie last um,

558
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean it any relationship she's pausing and at any

559
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: time no, but because I'm like if I'm asking honestly,

560
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: looking at them right now, I don't see them ever,

561
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: they're so in love, Like you can see it the

562
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: way he looks at her, he laughs and everything she said,

563
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: like you could tell he's so in love and she's

564
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: so madly in love with him. I could never see

565
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: it now, But I mean I was like that with

566
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: my first husband and we ended up to right. You

567
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: never know. So I have a quick question for you,

568
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: what do you think about the two Joe's meeting up

569
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas? Oh, well, Teresa knew about it ahead

570
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: of time because she knew about because there was a

571
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: friend of hers on the same plane as Joe and

572
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: Melissa going to the Bahamas. And so Teresa was like,

573
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: if you see them, you need to be nice to

574
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: him because I don't want there to be a problem

575
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: with you guys and there to be a fight because

576
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: if they you know, if Joe gets into trouble, it's

577
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: like not good. So she's like, if you see them,

578
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: just be nice with that. Videos that videos set up

579
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: staged it. Well, Joe, I think Joe thinks it was.

580
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean they literally were together three minutes. Well, I

581
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: saw that Joe, uh Gorga posted the video, but the

582
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: other two did not post it right because it was

583
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: literally three minutes long as clearly. Yeah, I mean it

584
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: was just like corny. Do you think it was a

585
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of a stick it to Melissa, I'm sorry, a

586
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: stick it to Teresa video. Oh, I'm sure of course.

587
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: It was like a tip for tat Yeah. And then

588
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: final question just because this was they're also wait, they're

589
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: also trying to get a hold of Kim D to

590
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: make up with Kim D. They're like, we like Kim D.

591
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, um, how do you think, Like what is

592
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: the trick to keeping your marriage last through all these

593
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: years of drama and craziness? A sense of humor? I

594
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: love that. It's a sense of humor. When you say

595
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: a sense of humor and sex, yeah, you know what,

596
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: that's pretty much true sense of humor because you can

597
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: when they're like your best friend and you can go

598
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: through like you can have a shitty day and be

599
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: mad or whatever. But then like if they like, when

600
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I get in a mood, it's hard to get me

601
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: out of it, and he knows how to pull me

602
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: out of that mood by you know, making a joke

603
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like he knows me, and he gets me,

604
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and I get him, and I know like when we

605
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: both need to be like you know yeah, And it's

606
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: really a sense of humor. I think we have a

607
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: good sense of humor with each other. And I think

608
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: that really God helps. We talked a lot about the show,

609
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: but personally, like what's going on in your life right now?

610
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Like what's your day to day? My day to day

611
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: now is homeschooling. Nicholas I had to pull him from

612
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: the school system here he was having a lot of

613
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: anxiety and everything. So now I homeschool him. I mean,

614
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: since the show, I got some certifications. I went to

615
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: I got a certified as a health coach to the

616
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Institute of Integrated Nutrition. I went to the Integrated Medicine

617
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: Academy online for Autism Master three, Functional Medicine, Toxicity, and Hormones.

618
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: And I was using that to like help other families.

619
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: But now I'm kind of retired because it's just a

620
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: lot with Nicholas to be home with them all day

621
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: and doing that, and so now I just have time

622
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: on my well. I know how busy you are with Nicholas,

623
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: but we thank you so much for taking the time

624
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: to be with us today. And we're super excited about

625
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: this interview. And if you ever want to come on

626
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: to recap Tamara when she's on Orange County, hit us up.

627
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: But I have to tell you, Tarma, I am now

628
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: power watching all of the Housewives of Orange County because

629
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see, like where you guys shop and

630
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: eat and you know that smart yeah, and a lot

631
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: of places aren't even there. I was gonna say a

632
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: lot of them been closed down, So her clothes I'll take,

633
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I'll take your shop and just go

634
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: to the Quiet Woman and boyfriend. Go, oh my god,

635
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: I got to Shannon. I'm on season eight. Oh oh

636
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: my gosh. Well, we thank you so much for joining us.

637
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: You are so much fun. Thank you for dealing with

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Speaker 1: all of our crazy questions. And I hope that I

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Speaker 1: can give you one day so and we'll have lunch.

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Speaker 1: So when I come to those seed you guys are

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Speaker 1: having drinks. Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Jacqueline. Bye,