Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2: Phone calls have been very good. A lot of topics
Speaker 2: to dive into. The former NFL running back. I believe
Speaker 2: he played for both Bill Kawer and Chuck Knowle. How
Speaker 2: many players can say that Meryl Hodge will join us
Speaker 2: and Hodgy is still assessing players eligible for the draft.
Speaker 2: You go back to now, there was a clip that
Speaker 2: went out last week. It went viral, as they like
Speaker 2: to say, where we were able to go back when
Speaker 2: Merrill was on with Skip Bayless. I think Skip was
Speaker 2: at the Mothership at the time, so nine years ago,
Speaker 2: and Meryl Hodge said, basically, there's no way I would
Speaker 2: take Johnny Manziel, you know he's not a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2: And then Skip says, I couldn't disagree with you more
Speaker 2: and You've never been more wrong. Skip's never been more wrong.
Speaker 3: But well, oh yeah, that's probably has he been more
Speaker 3: wrong than now.
Speaker 2: He did say one time that he would take Tim
Speaker 2: Tebow over Tom Brady I think with a game on
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 3: He also with Manzil, he doubled down and said this
Speaker 3: is going to be Manziel's town soon move over Lebron
Speaker 3: I could find.
Speaker 1: Yes uh.
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show email ADDRESSDPA, Tam Patrick
Speaker 2: Vage gentlemen, Well, no, Skip does what he does. That's
Speaker 2: why when people say, hey, what do you think of him?
Speaker 2: It's what do you think of him? Because if if
Speaker 2: you want to watch, then watch. He's a performer.
Speaker 1: That's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean I do what I do the way I
Speaker 2: do it. I don't try to be somebody else. And
Speaker 2: Skip is who he is and he's been very successful,
Speaker 2: and a lot of it is I'm going to say
Speaker 2: a lot of things and have hot takes and hopefully
Speaker 2: you'll forget when I'm wrong. But his job is to
Speaker 2: give you an opinion to get you excited. Same thing
Speaker 2: with Steven A. Now they may not have facts to
Speaker 2: back it up, or maybe they do and they feel
Speaker 2: strongly about this. But this show has never been about
Speaker 2: trolling you.
Speaker 1: And going up. How can I be counter to this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: See, maybe we should move into our trolling era.
Speaker 7: No, or we just start doing the dumbest things. Well
Speaker 7: we've been doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean we might be doing that, but it's not
Speaker 1: as well as we could be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not my design where we go How how
Speaker 2: are we going to be dumb today?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 8: You know you compared Steven A and Skip.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't compare that their volume is similar. Steven A
Speaker 3: I think believes what he says on air.
Speaker 1: Skip does too.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think Skip I do it a direction that
Speaker 3: he knows, almost like analytics. If I go this direction,
Speaker 3: I know I'll get this reaction. I don't care what
Speaker 3: I believe it. If I happen to believe it, it
Speaker 3: makes it easier. But I think he's a performance artist
Speaker 3: who manufactures content to cause reaction. Well, and stephen A,
Speaker 3: I think really believes what he says. He just has
Speaker 3: a performance technique that it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: See I think they believe it. Now, they could be delusional,
Speaker 1: like Skip could be delusional.
Speaker 2: You know, Lebron has twenty rebounds and Skip wants to
Speaker 2: know why Lebron didn't have twenty one rebounds. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what happened. Now, that's where you're trolling. Where you're going. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the hits. I love the Cowboys and
Speaker 2: I criticize Lebron. That's his game plan every single day, right,
Speaker 2: I'm guessing, and it's that's playing the hits. You're playing
Speaker 2: to two of the biggest fan bases there, Lakers Cowboys.
Speaker 2: You're throwing at Tebow once again. Who's going to criticize tebou?
Speaker 2: He's telling you how great Tebow is t BO time. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's wrong. He's wrong in his criticism of Lebron. He
Speaker 2: goes out of his way to be critical of him.
Speaker 2: You know, he loves the Cowboys, so but that's his philosophy.
Speaker 2: And I don't begrudge any of those guys. It's the
Speaker 2: audience decides how successful you are, because Skip could do
Speaker 2: this and nobody could be watching and nobody would care.
Speaker 2: And plus where you do it, you know, Steven A
Speaker 2: is on the mother ship. I remember when Steve and
Speaker 2: A got let go by ESPN and he did the
Speaker 2: radio show prior to this one, and people don't even
Speaker 2: remember that it's the platform you're on. And then he
Speaker 2: went back to ESPN. They turned the keys over to him,
Speaker 2: and look at him now he's running the network there.
Speaker 2: But there are there are a few people. Plus I
Speaker 2: always tell when you're starting out and you want to
Speaker 2: do this for a living, be prepared for the blowback,
Speaker 2: be prepared for criticism. I played it straight and narrow
Speaker 2: because I was an anchor at Sports Center and I
Speaker 2: didn't think that. You know, my opinions were supposed to
Speaker 2: be in my broadcast back then, and therefore I didn't
Speaker 2: have a take on things back then. Even when I
Speaker 2: did radio. Should have had more of an opinion, but
Speaker 2: I just didn't. I thought ESPN. I was representing ESPN,
Speaker 2: And you know that's a miscalculation on my part. When
Speaker 2: I started to do this show, then it was my name,
Speaker 2: my show, and I could do whatever I want. But
Speaker 2: sometimes you want to put yourself out there. But put
Speaker 2: yourself out there when you have something that backs this up, sources, stats,
Speaker 2: not just here's a hot take, because hot takes they
Speaker 2: come back. They burn you a lot of times. They
Speaker 2: burn you. And Merril Hodge said, look, Johnny Manziel is
Speaker 2: not a franchise quarterback, not even top three rounds. But
Speaker 2: Skip bought into Johnny Manziel, Like Johnny Manziel is a star. Okay,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he can play in the NFL. Tim Tebow, god,
Speaker 2: everybody loves Tim Tebow. Yeah, but he can't play quarterback.
Speaker 2: Of course he can, look what he did at Florida.
Speaker 2: He can't play quarterback. But you know you buy in
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna double down. That happens a lot.
Speaker 2: But you know there's so many people who do it
Speaker 2: in a variety of ways. Good for them. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't be grudge if you have an audience, you
Speaker 2: have an audience. It's like when somebody says, hey, what's
Speaker 2: McAfee doing. I said, he's being Pat McAfee, you got energy,
Speaker 2: barstool with Big Cat. They're doing it in a different way.
Speaker 2: I applaud that. And that's what you need to do.
Speaker 2: Be you when you do these shows. Because a lot
Speaker 2: of people try to fall in line, say I'm going
Speaker 2: to try to be like that person. The guys who
Speaker 2: are successful, the women who are successful, they do it
Speaker 2: in their own voice. And I don't be grudge. Skip's entertaining,
Speaker 2: Steven A Entertaining. May not believe everything they're saying, but
Speaker 2: they do Alrighty Merrill Hodge will join us coming up there.
Speaker 2: I will get phone calls coming up Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 2: That's it Like, at some point, is he just going
Speaker 2: to show up at camp? Are they going to give
Speaker 2: him a new deal? Is he going to then come
Speaker 2: back and then go, hey, you know what, I'll take
Speaker 2: the deal that Jalen hurts gott. Are they going to
Speaker 2: trade for DeAndre Hopkins? You got Odell Beckham there. I
Speaker 2: think we forget how good Baltimore can be. And if
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is there and you have some weapons there,
Speaker 2: do you eventually meet halfway? But that going into the draft.
Speaker 2: There's not much talk there with Lamar Jackson, which I'm
Speaker 2: still curious about. Does anybody entertain the possibility of trading
Speaker 2: for him? Aaron Rodgers showed up at the Jets facility.
Speaker 2: Looks good, got haircut, got his Jets hoodie on, He's
Speaker 2: ready to go. Everybody gets a bro hug there. I
Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, come on in, Hey, is this the
Speaker 2: only time you're going to be here in the next
Speaker 2: couple of months, because we'd like to have you back
Speaker 2: and meet everybody in the players and you know, maybe work.
Speaker 1: Out with them. Could you do that, because that's really
Speaker 1: the key with this.
Speaker 2: Help out those younger guys eight seven to seven to
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Speaker 2: Thank you tonight. Nick's Calves Lakers, Grizzlies, Heat Bucks, Warriors,
Speaker 2: and the Kings. Last night, the Hawks interrupted the Celtics
Speaker 2: march to the next round. It was a brief pause
Speaker 2: by Trey Young ice tray from thirty feet bang Nuggets
Speaker 2: in the Suns advance, and we say good night to
Speaker 2: the Clippers again. Poll question for hour two is what
Speaker 2: see O'Connor?
Speaker 4: Dan?
Speaker 6: Hour one was an absolute runaway?
Speaker 1: Alright, should the.
Speaker 7: Clippers move on from Kawhi Leonard and Paul George? That
Speaker 7: right now is at eighty five percent a year?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, it's not should they? It's how do you?
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. What do you have
Speaker 2: for hour two?
Speaker 6: Hour two? Dan, We got one in here from PAULI.
Speaker 7: If you're Houston with two first round picks, do you
Speaker 7: draft a quarterback CJ. Stroud, Richardson Service Levis or do
Speaker 7: you trade one of them for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Well, you're not ready to win now, so I wouldn't
Speaker 2: make the trade for Lamar Jackson. You're probably two years
Speaker 2: away if all goes well. I would not take a
Speaker 2: quarterback up top unless I was absolutely positively in love
Speaker 2: with him. You got two first round picks next year
Speaker 2: and you're probably going to be in the same position
Speaker 2: next year. I think if you could get one of
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks with your second pick in the first round,
Speaker 2: you can't whiff on the first pick you have. You
Speaker 2: can't second overall, can't whiff. Would I take a chance
Speaker 2: on Richardson or I don't think Stroud will be there,
Speaker 2: but you know Richardson could be, so yeah, I might
Speaker 2: do that, but I would rather wait until next year
Speaker 2: because I know that I got three quarterbacks who are
Speaker 2: considered better than all of these quarterbacks. Pennix, Caleb Williams,
Speaker 2: and Drake May A couple of phone calls in here.
Speaker 7: I wish that you had said that, by the way,
Speaker 7: before I submitted all of my answers to game.
Speaker 6: Okay, that makes a lot more sense than what I
Speaker 6: just did.
Speaker 2: Does everybody have their picks in on which team is
Speaker 2: going to take take the quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: Okay, and then we'll reveal this.
Speaker 2: Of course, it'll be a big, big moment on Friday
Speaker 2: on the show, and when we look back on what
Speaker 2: we thought was going to happen first round. Mike in
Speaker 2: Utah joins us speaking of that topic. Good morning, Mike,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 5: Good morning?
Speaker 9: Dan and the dnets speaking and looking back in sixteen,
Speaker 9: you guys did a quarterback draft and you all pick
Speaker 9: NFL quarterbacks and where they were gonna be in seven years,
Speaker 9: And I just wonder how that panned out.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you have the information?
Speaker 9: No, I don't even remember.
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, I thought it was gonna be one of
Speaker 2: those gotcha moments, like you guys thought this guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, PAULI from what I recall, we did some type
Speaker 3: of draft if you had to start your team with
Speaker 3: a quarterback going forward in twenty sixteen, I think we
Speaker 3: did that.
Speaker 1: Was that Fritzie taking Carson Wins?
Speaker 8: I think it was.
Speaker 3: I gotta check that sixteen I'd been too early, but
Speaker 3: it's something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought Mike was gonna say, you idiots, do you
Speaker 2: guys know who you picked was gonna get He's like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm guessing we do this
Speaker 2: almost every year. Uh, let's see Kevin and Dayton. Hey Kevin,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey Dan?
Speaker 1: How's it going great?
Speaker 9: keV?
Speaker 10: First time, long time six ' three, a soft two forty.
Speaker 10: I just wanted to ask you advice. I'm going on
Speaker 10: a bachelor trip this weekend and destin with twenty guys,
Speaker 10: and I wanted to see if you had any any
Speaker 10: tips for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, it's been a while since I've been at
Speaker 2: a bachelor party. Uh, Paul, you got any advice?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a two day party Batchelor weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, try not to overdo it on Friday where you're
Speaker 3: too banged up to answer the call for golf on
Speaker 3: Saturday or whatever's going on Saturday. I've seen bachelor and
Speaker 3: Batcheltt parties Friday out of hand. Your drink like you're
Speaker 3: back in college, all right.
Speaker 7: See O'Connor, do your best to have a glass of
Speaker 7: water between each drink.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's.
Speaker 6: Gonna make the weekend go buy a lot better.
Speaker 2: I mean nothing says bachelor party quite like mixing in
Speaker 2: a glass of water.
Speaker 7: That's why you just just sit have a glass of
Speaker 7: water with you, have your drinks or whatever, but try
Speaker 7: to mix in a glass of water between every drink.
Speaker 2: I'm taking a sensible approach to this, and I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm here for the law.
Speaker 7: Look, this dude comes back on you know, he's getting
Speaker 7: bailed out Sunday morning. He's gonna be like, I probably
Speaker 7: should have had some more water instead of whiskey.
Speaker 1: That might not be the first thing he says.
Speaker 3: And don't go to will now, and don't go to
Speaker 3: a strip club. Go to a remove just a little
Speaker 3: amount of clothing club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they don't strip everything off. Good luck, Kevin,
Speaker 2: We're counting on you.
Speaker 6: Glass of water.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anybody been to a bachelor party recently? Marv, you're the
Speaker 2: youngest guy. I would think you would been to a
Speaker 2: bachelor party.
Speaker 6: I have not.
Speaker 11: I have a couple of friends that are on wedding
Speaker 11: number two and we were like, now, we're just gonna
Speaker 11: keep it cool.
Speaker 4: I'll see you guys at the altar.
Speaker 1: Yes, huh.
Speaker 11: Not recently, but several years ago in Vegas at the Mirage,
Speaker 11: things got pretty wild.
Speaker 1: In my estimation, I'm not the okay.
Speaker 11: Party guy, but I just saw some things I probably
Speaker 11: shouldn't have seen.
Speaker 1: Okay, is this thirty years ago?
Speaker 4: This would be like I would say, twenty years ago, maybe.
Speaker 2: All right, fifteen to twenty years What is a wild
Speaker 2: time to you?
Speaker 11: A wild time is not only having women come up
Speaker 11: but also perform acts right there in public and not
Speaker 11: even go in another room than take the guy with
Speaker 11: them and just things are happening and regardless of who's
Speaker 11: viewing it in.
Speaker 4: Front of them.
Speaker 1: So there's no champagne room.
Speaker 4: No champagne room. There were there were There was a
Speaker 4: bathroom that a couple of them went into.
Speaker 11: But then there were a few things I saw that
Speaker 11: were just happening right there in the main living room
Speaker 11: in the big suite that was rented at that I
Speaker 11: was surprised was going on right there for.
Speaker 4: All to ogel. Okay, to me, that was kind of
Speaker 4: a big deal.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine Fritzy being friends with anyone that would
Speaker 3: have that type of party. I know most of Fritzy's
Speaker 3: friends got like three Yeah.
Speaker 7: See, it's interesting too because Todd said it was like
Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty years ago, which means we all knew
Speaker 7: each other fifteen years ago, we were doing this show already.
Speaker 1: Yes, wait, wait now it's twenty five.
Speaker 4: But you know that that's a good point.
Speaker 11: It was it was it was before uh it was
Speaker 11: before I was married the nineties.
Speaker 1: This would before you were married. Then how long you
Speaker 1: been married.
Speaker 4: I've been married like twenty four years.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this.
Speaker 2: Probably happened like it happened like you were you just
Speaker 2: said fifteen now before you got married.
Speaker 4: Probably I'm thinking it's twenty five.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: We all think I'm just making up the story altogether.
Speaker 1: So are you making up?
Speaker 11: This was some while stuff at the Mirage in Vegas,
Speaker 11: which I did not participate in, but I certainly uh
Speaker 11: watched some.
Speaker 1: Stuff that was he was mixing in his water. See yeah, yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: you were single.
Speaker 8: Why didn't you participate?
Speaker 4: I just didn't. It was just too a little too wild,
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 11: I did tell one young lady that I thought she
Speaker 11: was very beautiful and uh, and she gave me like
Speaker 11: a little peck on the cheek and then she ended
Speaker 11: up being a porn star like a year and a
Speaker 11: half later, and sent me like VHS tapes to an
Speaker 11: office in LA where I was working, which probably wasn't
Speaker 11: a great place to be doing that.
Speaker 1: How did she get your information?
Speaker 4: I probably was commuting.
Speaker 1: I remember giving her a worker dress though business cards.
Speaker 8: Let me get the briefcase, hold on please, I.
Speaker 11: Just remember getting a note, Hi, Toddy, surprise, I'm a
Speaker 11: porn star, which was followed by like three VHS tapes
Speaker 11: I still have. I took her out to uh wait,
Speaker 11: did she got to lunch one time for sush like
Speaker 11: hot toddy?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Is that.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Santa Monica?
Speaker 8: Yes, twenty dollars for sushi. Nothing happened, she got page
Speaker 8: and how to go to some.
Speaker 2: You're the only guy who goes out with a porn
Speaker 2: star and nothing happened.
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even love sushi.
Speaker 11: All a sudden, I got a built form like a
Speaker 11: one forty eight twelve before tip and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 11: I have to go.
Speaker 4: I have to go and meet someone.
Speaker 6: Yes, with a belly full of your sushi.
Speaker 11: I was taking advantage of a little bit there, not
Speaker 11: in a good way.
Speaker 1: Wow, sushi. I barely knew her.
Speaker 4: He's won all kinds of a war.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 8: It's not like a character actor. She's a star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was a big deal. They're not all.
Speaker 2: Stars, by the way. You know, there has to be
Speaker 2: just like somebody who's just in porn. Not everybody's a
Speaker 2: porn star.
Speaker 11: Yeah, like a bit roll, like an extra just kind
Speaker 11: of walks by the bed and when nothing's going on.
Speaker 2: They're like journeymen in there too, you know, like sometimes
Speaker 2: you have a journeyman quarterback.
Speaker 1: Where basketball players played for nine exactly.
Speaker 4: We're too quick to label.
Speaker 11: There's a robertory of the porn industry that we don't
Speaker 11: know about.
Speaker 4: You know what, Yeah, always comes up big at the end.
Speaker 2: He's called big Shot Bob. Let's take a break. That's
Speaker 2: a good porn name.
Speaker 1: Big Shot.
Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 2: The draft is in Kansas City, Travis, I think is
Speaker 2: holding a party there, Knicks Caves, Tonight, Lakers, Grizzlies, heat Bucks, Warriors,
Speaker 2: and the Kings. Not sure how healthy Fox is going
Speaker 2: to be with that fractured finger on his shooting hand.
Speaker 2: Merril Hodge had the opportunity to work with Merrill at
Speaker 2: the Mothership for many years. Always had great respect for
Speaker 2: the homework that he did. It's not about hot takes,
Speaker 2: it's about getting it right. Former NFL running back who
Speaker 2: I believe. I don't know how many players have played
Speaker 2: for Chuck Noll and Bill Kawer, but Hodgy has Is
Speaker 2: that right?
Speaker 1: You played for both those coaches?
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, two legends, which I find myself fortunate to
Speaker 5: have done that because Chuck knowle' is a greatest man
Speaker 5: I've ever met. And then what Bill Coward did in
Speaker 5: the position that he was in, I don't know of
Speaker 5: another human being that could have done what Bill did,
Speaker 5: and it was both guys were different, but both guys
Speaker 5: great leaders.
Speaker 2: Your video clip went viral the last couple of weeks
Speaker 2: with you with Skip Bayless when you're arguing Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 2: But I want to know what research you did, Like
Speaker 2: what did you know about Johnny Manziel that maybe others
Speaker 2: didn't because Skip was all in and a lot of
Speaker 2: people were on Johnny Manziel. You were all out on
Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 5: Why, well, you know, you know how it was that
Speaker 5: the mother shit they you know. They came over to
Speaker 5: me and asked me if I would come over and
Speaker 5: do first take with with Skip, and he said he
Speaker 5: has talked to some coaches. As soon as I heard that,
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, that's that's like really low hanging fruit
Speaker 5: right there, because that means he doesn't know anything. He's
Speaker 5: talked to a bunch of coaches, and who those coaches
Speaker 5: are were quite honestly irrelevant. This is actually the truth
Speaker 5: foundationally with every organization it's getting ready for tomorrow, the
Speaker 5: foundation of every player that's being looked at. I don't
Speaker 5: fre what the organization is we're talking about. They've studied
Speaker 5: him on tape extensively. They went back all of their
Speaker 5: games to study him on tape, which I had done
Speaker 5: that with Johnny Now, the one thing that was disturbing
Speaker 5: is he never played in structure, and then people always
Speaker 5: say it was so exciting, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 5: that's not a skill set, and you don't draft somebody
Speaker 5: because they're exciting. But if you understand structure and how
Speaker 5: he's supposed to execute plays, he hardly ever did it.
Speaker 5: And then I had a good friend actually was my
Speaker 5: quarterback coach at the LSU. He his offensive coordinator of
Speaker 5: Steve Craig thought at the time they tried to recruit him,
Speaker 5: and then I heard a lot of stories about how
Speaker 5: they recruited him, how he was as a person in
Speaker 5: high school, how he played in high school. He was
Speaker 5: reckless in high school, but he was exciting. He never
Speaker 5: played with structure. Mike Sherman was the offensive coordinator there
Speaker 5: and he'd run a system there that was similar to
Speaker 5: systems he might see in the NFL. But he read shirted.
Speaker 5: And his response to that question is what did you
Speaker 5: learn was probably the most telling aspect of everything. He's like, well,
Speaker 5: I was red shirt and I didn't learn anything. And
Speaker 5: just when I heard that, I was like, Okay, that
Speaker 5: just tells you who he is. Then when he watched
Speaker 5: him play and if you took all that, actually none
Speaker 5: other stuff away. Dan, I'm just telling you from people
Speaker 5: get caught up in where the kid plays versus where
Speaker 5: he's going to play. And in our league, this what
Speaker 5: makes Tom Brady the great quarterback in the history of
Speaker 5: our league. He executes the play, he plays in structure
Speaker 5: and he does Like, if you're gonna make Tom Brady
Speaker 5: throw a hitch twelve times in a row, he will
Speaker 5: throw a hitch twelve times in a row. You don't
Speaker 5: have many quarterbacks will say, you know what, throwing a hitch,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw the dig. But the dig is not there.
Speaker 5: Tom Brady is second of five and the other team
Speaker 5: is second and ten.
Speaker 1: There's your difference, all right.
Speaker 2: How many quarterbacks have a first round grade this draft?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got one that's CJ. Stroud and he is
Speaker 5: unique from this perspective. Let's talk about this. These are
Speaker 5: the two things that have to be woven together. If
Speaker 5: you do not have these two things, your ability to
Speaker 5: win consistently in the national football you're gonna be very hard.
Speaker 5: You gottas decision making, okay, the processing and decision making
Speaker 5: aspect and accuracy has to be that combination, Like, if
Speaker 5: you don't have that, you've got a big problem. One
Speaker 5: of those teams is gonna run one of those two things.
Speaker 5: If you don't have it, runs you out of our league. Okay,
Speaker 5: he does have it. Bryce Young has that as well.
Speaker 5: But then as when you got to go a little
Speaker 5: deeper into those two things, the luxurial house State has
Speaker 5: now Alabama has half the times. They're just better than
Speaker 5: everybody else, you know, and so what's hard to do,
Speaker 5: but you have to do it, and you have to
Speaker 5: find enough evidence to see how they function in it
Speaker 5: is how will they play in the environment in the
Speaker 5: NFL that the NFL is going to create, and majority
Speaker 5: of all throws in the NFL are from a dirty
Speaker 5: collapse pocket, there's traffic. They don't have the luxury of
Speaker 5: being better than everybody else half of the season. Okay,
Speaker 5: so how do they function within that? When you look
Speaker 5: at that category, now the decision making and accuracy, aspect
Speaker 5: and arm strength come into play. C J. Stroud is strong,
Speaker 5: He is dynamic. I mean his ability to throw accurate.
Speaker 5: Wise will attack. He can attack every inch of the field,
Speaker 5: every inch of the field. You take Bryce Young into
Speaker 5: that pocket collapsing environment. He doesn't have a big enough arm,
Speaker 5: so he's limited and where he's go to be able
Speaker 5: to throw and he's not the same quarterback. He can't
Speaker 5: make those throws and that's going to be a big
Speaker 5: consistency in the National Football League where he's going to
Speaker 5: have to play that he doesn't play like c. J.
Speaker 5: Stroud does. I still love him. I still think he
Speaker 5: does a great jot taking could be a good quarterback.
Speaker 5: He's just not. I wouldn't put a first round pick
Speaker 5: on him because that expectation is you're going to be elite,
Speaker 5: You're going to take us to a championship, and you
Speaker 5: have to have this as part of your evaluation. He
Speaker 5: is fragile. He is not very big and he has
Speaker 5: already displayed that in the two years at Alabama. The
Speaker 5: last two years, the year where they were dominantly won
Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy. They're a dominant team. He was awful. Now
Speaker 5: when they weren't quite the team that they were the
Speaker 5: previous year. People got the hitting, people got a routing more,
Speaker 5: and he didn't play the entire season. He got hurt
Speaker 5: because you're hitting now when they hit him, and when
Speaker 5: I say when they hit him, here's what happens in
Speaker 5: the NFL. Sometimes you're like, well, I can we can
Speaker 5: get our corner there. But out of if he can
Speaker 5: get a quarterback down, hey, in this case, your kicker
Speaker 5: gets there, then they wipe him off the map. I mean,
Speaker 5: they may charge people for murder when they hit him.
Speaker 5: When he got hit just in college, I gave him
Speaker 5: a ten for toughness because there's so many times I'm like, man,
Speaker 5: he ain't getting up from that, and that has to
Speaker 5: be an ultimate You have to take that. You have
Speaker 5: to have that discussion because in our league he's going
Speaker 5: to get hit. He is not physically he's very fragile,
Speaker 5: and you have to be okay with him not playing
Speaker 5: a few games every year. You have to be you
Speaker 5: have to accept that that could happen. And then with
Speaker 5: his limited ability to throw from a dirty pocket NFL environment,
Speaker 5: c J. Stroud doesn't have those things, and I wouldn't
Speaker 5: put that on my coach. If I have the choice,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the guy that doesn't put those limitations
Speaker 5: on me, and c J. Stroud does not do that.
Speaker 5: I think he is unique. He is powerfully as strong,
Speaker 5: he is dynamic, he is accurate, and he will threat
Speaker 5: every inch of the field. And he is truly special
Speaker 5: from that perspective.
Speaker 2: Talking to Merrill Hodge, the former ESPN analyst, he's an author,
Speaker 2: inspirational speaker. Let's go the other quarterbacks here. Bill Levis
Speaker 2: appears to be rising up a little bit.
Speaker 5: Why Yeah, I don't know, I answer, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I Well, let's get sink with yeah, Maryland, but let.
Speaker 5: These actually they are actually the bowl of the same category.
Speaker 5: Let's go back to the two things you got to have.
Speaker 5: Accuracy and decision making. Okay, both are highly questionable. Okay, Now,
Speaker 5: decision making. We could sit there and argue, you know,
Speaker 5: and somebody could sell me on well, you know, here's
Speaker 5: why he made this decision. You can clean that up
Speaker 5: and he's going to be better. You're never changing accuracy.
Speaker 5: And here's the biggest mistake that is made in the
Speaker 5: history of our game. With every organization you think you
Speaker 5: can fix something you cannot fix. You cannot fix. Actually,
Speaker 5: and I go, I go from I've coached kids from
Speaker 5: eight to thirty eight. Actually, coaching football is probably the
Speaker 5: best thing ever happened to me, because I see the
Speaker 5: genetic makeup of a kid. I see a kid who's accurate.
Speaker 5: You know, ten years later, he's still accurate. I see
Speaker 5: a kid who's not accurate. He's still not accurate, even
Speaker 5: though he worked on it, and you work on it,
Speaker 5: you can make your actually a little better. But at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, when you're in the heat
Speaker 5: of fire, you're going to be who you are, and
Speaker 5: that is not very accurate. Both guys. When I say
Speaker 5: a radic, I mean Will Levis, I mean he's made
Speaker 5: some throws from a hitch. I mean short, intermediate, and
Speaker 5: vertical two. Okay, there's not just one category where he's
Speaker 5: not good at. I mean he makes some throws where
Speaker 5: even the receiver just turns around. And was like, what
Speaker 5: was that like? Consistently? You know? And I went back
Speaker 5: and looked at his last two years, and he was
Speaker 5: better his a year ago than he was this last year.
Speaker 5: And actually everybody blamed his sad always offensive line was bad.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you this, I'd be pissed if I was
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman because he sacked himself more and got
Speaker 5: himself into trouble more by having an awful pocket awareness,
Speaker 5: which was another layer of concern. I'm like, that's an
Speaker 5: instinctive thing. You know that's something that Okay, go back
Speaker 5: to who's the greatest quarterback Tom Brady? What made him
Speaker 5: so great? And what did they attack him for? Why
Speaker 5: did they knock it? John Gruden tells this story. We
Speaker 5: downgraded Tom Brady because of his forty the dumbest evaluation
Speaker 5: in the history of football, because it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant.
Speaker 5: What is relevant is how he moves within that space.
Speaker 1: And Brady never ran magical.
Speaker 2: Brady never ran forty yards at one point in his career.
Speaker 2: Do you do you have Anthony Richardson in there with
Speaker 2: the same kind of description with Will Levis, Yes, Okay.
Speaker 5: His decision making, his accuracy, it's just it's it's it's
Speaker 5: below average at very best, from clean pocket, dirty pocket mobility.
Speaker 5: I mean, moving right, moving left, every platform. It is consistent.
Speaker 5: He's inaccurate. You're not changing that, and that will get
Speaker 5: him exposed to the NFL eventually. It just it's unacceptable
Speaker 5: and it will drive you out of our league. It
Speaker 5: happens all of the time. But I'll fix it. There's
Speaker 5: coaches there now. Listen. Sometimes the GM's making this call.
Speaker 5: The coach is saying, don't do this. I can't Dix
Speaker 5: that what you're gonna do. That's why I hired you.
Speaker 1: I'd like that.
Speaker 5: That was all the time too.
Speaker 2: I like Hendon Hooker. But he is coming off surgery
Speaker 2: and he's twenty five. Is he a first round? Will
Speaker 2: he be a first round to pick?
Speaker 5: Now? He could? Now? No? No, A guy who is accurate,
Speaker 5: a guy who processes things well, and I believe is
Speaker 5: devalid because of that that k the injury and that
Speaker 5: deep knee injury has to be you know, considered in
Speaker 5: the whole thing. Will he be able to play when it?
Speaker 5: But the two things I just talked about, he does
Speaker 5: have them. You know. I put tape on him and
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I don't know about this kid.
Speaker 5: That's one thing I don't know about any of them.
Speaker 5: So tape tells me. I'm only going about what the
Speaker 5: tape tells you. I when I talk done with five
Speaker 5: of those games of him, I'm like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: Like he gets flat footed at times, which you know
Speaker 5: it gets him in trouble, and that's when he becomes inaccurate.
Speaker 5: But you can work on that and fix that. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's a that's a technique that he can get better at.
Speaker 5: But his accuracy. I'm his processing of the system they had.
Speaker 5: It was a very sophisticated system, but that's all you
Speaker 5: can go on. He processed that well well. He threw big.
Speaker 5: He made big time throws in big time situations under
Speaker 5: a lot of pressure. And I like you from that perspective.
Speaker 5: I think you can build from. If somebody gets into
Speaker 5: the second round, we're gonna get a steal. They'll get
Speaker 5: a steal. Would not be surprised if he doesn't go
Speaker 5: in the first later.
Speaker 2: Uh, since you are a former running back by Jean Robinson, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know from what I my source says, he might
Speaker 2: be the best player in the draft, but he won't
Speaker 2: be taken as the best player because he's a running back.
Speaker 5: Right. You know, Dan, I always at his path. I
Speaker 5: watch him on tape. Okay, he is gifted. Now here's
Speaker 5: what makes him gifted. Okay, here's the difference between college
Speaker 5: and NFL. Most people don't realize that the builds are different.
Speaker 5: The NFL field is different than the college field. And
Speaker 5: as soon as I say to everybody's like, what do
Speaker 5: you mean? That's not difference? I guess is the hash
Speaker 5: marks in college are wider. College hash marks in college
Speaker 5: are narrow. So in the NFL we play in the middle,
Speaker 5: and college we play on the perimeter. And so when
Speaker 5: you're watching a kid in college, you got to look
Speaker 5: at how does he play in the middle, you know,
Speaker 5: how can he create? How can he make a dirty
Speaker 5: play into a good play. I mean, there's traffic the
Speaker 5: holes there, but it's not really Walt clean. This guy
Speaker 5: will clean up a lot of bad plays because he's
Speaker 5: laterally and vertically dynamic his feet and his fluidity is rare.
Speaker 5: It is special. You can't teach that. He has explosiveness,
Speaker 5: he has power, he has speed, he'll block, he can catch,
Speaker 5: and so he is going to when he comes into
Speaker 5: this league. His transitioning will be very easy for him.
Speaker 5: And I thought, he's pro day and you know, I
Speaker 5: was talking to him, and here's what I fell in
Speaker 5: love with him. We were talking about, you know, ask
Speaker 5: him who's your favorite player and he said Barry Sanders
Speaker 5: And I said, well, I mean, that's that's not a
Speaker 5: bad guy to have as your best player. And I said,
Speaker 5: how much you know about Walter Payton? Because when I
Speaker 5: played in Chicago, Walter Payton was retired at the time.
Speaker 5: I learned a lot about Walter Payton aside from him
Speaker 5: being a great football player, but we would talk about
Speaker 5: the game and how he played and the mindset in
Speaker 5: which he had, and he talked about something I actually
Speaker 5: heard as a fifteen year old kid. He talked about
Speaker 5: his mindset of wanting it every day and what that
Speaker 5: did for him is it forced him and it challenged
Speaker 5: him every day to get everything out of his God
Speaker 5: given ability. So I shared that with him and I'm like,
Speaker 5: you need to look up Walter Payton. And he was
Speaker 5: listening to you. Some of these kids are like, yeah,
Speaker 5: whatever you know, get out on the face and a key.
Speaker 5: He came over to talk to me too, by the
Speaker 5: way he started the conversation, but then he listened intently,
Speaker 5: and so I tell him about this Walter Payton thing,
Speaker 5: and I said, here's what your job is. To get
Speaker 5: everything out of your God given ability. That's what you
Speaker 5: have to do if you want to be great in
Speaker 5: this league. If you'll do that every day, you need
Speaker 5: to study things on Walter Payton. You need to try
Speaker 5: to be create that mindset like Walter Payton. And you
Speaker 5: could put a gold jacket on one day and he's like,
Speaker 5: can I get your number. You know, could you share
Speaker 5: more stuff with me and just just that just how
Speaker 5: he was as a human being and a kid. I'd
Speaker 5: heard about that too, but to see it and experience
Speaker 5: it with him and share that with him, and he
Speaker 5: would take that on and embrace that. Just whoever gets
Speaker 5: him is going to get just an absolute star. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a dramatic pause, but I think
Speaker 2: you froze up there, Hanji. Yeah, we'll take a break. Merril,
Speaker 2: if you can hear me. Thanks for joining us. The
Speaker 2: former NFL running back. That's great, great stuff. You know what,
Speaker 2: there's no vagueness to what he's saying about these draft picks.
Speaker 2: Here and author inspirational speaker Meryl Hodge, welcome back after this.
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Speaker 2: We just watched Aaron Rodgers walk into the building and
Speaker 2: he got to meet everybody, coach, GM, owner, handshakes, bro Hugs,
Speaker 2: had a little backpack on, looked like first day of
Speaker 2: school hair and cutt took off his took off his
Speaker 2: tom Cruise aviator glasses as he walked in. And the
Speaker 2: thing is is that it looks like it's in slow motion.
Speaker 2: That's actually how Aaron Rodgers was moving when he was
Speaker 2: meeting with the Jets, soaking it all in This in
Speaker 2: from Shams Kawhi Leonard diagnosed with a torn meniscus in
Speaker 2: his right knee. He averaged thirty five points in the
Speaker 2: first two games, but the meniscus injury was revealed and
Speaker 2: he was shut down by medical staff. And it goes
Speaker 2: back to what I've said before. People were critical that
Speaker 2: he wasn't being tough for you know, you got, hey,
Speaker 2: it's sixty percent. You're better than somebody at ninety five percent.
Speaker 2: Got to get in there. And I kept saying, he
Speaker 2: wants to play, there's a reason why he's not playing,
Speaker 2: he's hurt. And then I mean, it'd been nice if
Speaker 2: they said, look, he's not playing, he's got a torn meniscus,
Speaker 2: you know, but what do you do next year? What
Speaker 2: can you do next year except for let's try it
Speaker 2: one more time with these two. I don't know if
Speaker 2: Kawhi is going to be, you know, available for what's
Speaker 2: sixty games again, and who else would be interested in.
Speaker 2: It's either Kawhi plays or tries to play, or maybe
Speaker 2: doesn't play at all again, maybe his career is over.
Speaker 2: Paul George, you're going to bring him back again? Did
Speaker 2: you bring back Russell Westbrook? You know that roster getting older,
Speaker 2: don't have players under contract after twenty twenty four. You've
Speaker 2: got an owner moving into a new arena.
Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Everything? All right?
Speaker 2: It's the game that everybody wants to play, but we
Speaker 2: came up with it. First, we're picking where the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: are going to be selected in the first round. And
Speaker 2: some musical accompaniment.
Speaker 3: Dan, there's five quarterbacks expected in round one, Round one
Speaker 3: or two? Okay, the quarterback, then we go around the
Speaker 3: room with the team that slecks him. It'll be Bryce Young,
Speaker 3: then c J. Stroud, then Anthony Richardson, then Will Levis,
Speaker 3: then Hendon Hooker of Tennessee. Right, Bryce Young, he will
Speaker 3: go to I'll start Carolina Panthers, all right.
Speaker 2: I said, Carolina, Marv Panthers, all right, Seaton Carolina, all right, Todd.
Speaker 1: Panthers, c J.
Speaker 8: Stroud. I will go with the Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Colts, all right.
Speaker 2: I forget who I picked that doesn't help this segment. Dan, No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't. I think I picked the Houston Texans.
Speaker 8: Officially, that's officially your pick.
Speaker 6: I think, Oh boy, does anybody know where.
Speaker 1: Dan Dylan's got my Dylan's got my picks.
Speaker 8: There, and if he put the graphics up, we'd know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I gave him to him so he can make a
Speaker 2: graphic for us.
Speaker 1: Uh, Todd, Where does c J. Stroud go?
Speaker 4: Houston Texans?
Speaker 1: Follow Seaton?
Speaker 2: Your Tennessee Titans? Oh no, that's who I picked. I swear,
Speaker 2: I swear that. I the Titans go up and get Cejon.
Speaker 8: Let's recap, CJ. I go Colts, you go.
Speaker 2: Titans trade up to get him, Titans trade up to
Speaker 2: get Okay, yeah, follow me?
Speaker 1: Oh I said it.
Speaker 5: I said it.
Speaker 8: Pritty mar Pritty has Texans?
Speaker 3: Marv Texans, all right, Anthony Richardson, I say he will
Speaker 3: go to the Las Vegas Raiders to wait out Jimmy
Speaker 3: Garoppolo's next two years.
Speaker 1: I am taking.
Speaker 3: Seattle, marvelous, I have Seattle, all right, Fritzy Colts.
Speaker 6: Right, Anthony Richardson will go to the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: Oh, Hendon Hooker or no, Will Levis.
Speaker 8: Will Leavis will Levis.
Speaker 1: Will Levis, all right, PAULI I would he's going to go.
Speaker 8: To the Texans with their second of their.
Speaker 2: First I'm going will Levis to the Colts.
Speaker 1: Wow, Mark the Colts, Seaton Colts, Todd.
Speaker 4: Nashville bound, Tennessee Titans for Will Lebbing's.
Speaker 2: All right, And that leaves us with Hendon Hooker Junior,
Speaker 2: the third.
Speaker 3: Hendon Hooker will go to the Washington Commanders, either late
Speaker 3: first round or early second round.
Speaker 1: Dan, I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings. This is what what.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 6: Hendon Hooker falling to the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, convenient that all of a sudden, you're you're
Speaker 2: taking all of my you're living off my fumes here.
Speaker 7: All of a sudden you forget at first, you forgot
Speaker 7: all of your picks, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 7: they're exactly the same as mine.
Speaker 1: I wonder how that happens. Seat, and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: entertain a nation here. That happened?
Speaker 2: I spent so little time on this. You're a baby, Marv.
Speaker 4: I also have the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you do, Todd Hollywood.
Speaker 4: Hendon Hendon Hooker is going to the Rams. You heard it.
Speaker 1: Here first, is that his nickname?
Speaker 11: Or you just came like Hollywood Henderson is Hollywood Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 3: That's a fun thing to the rams there that that
Speaker 3: makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 2: Damn man, that's incredible. Mike and Wisconsin. Hi, Mike, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 4: M Hey?
Speaker 13: Dan Hey, Mike just came across a crazy, crazy stat
Speaker 13: And this is a courtesy of Caedar Sportsbook entertainment purposes only,
Speaker 13: but the the top five most heavily bet schools to
Speaker 13: win the college football playoffs this this next season Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia,
Speaker 13: lsu Any guesses on who is singing.
Speaker 2: The sixth best odds to play in the college football
Speaker 2: Final four? Not not odds, most heavily bet, oh, he
Speaker 2: heavily bet uh.
Speaker 1: Texas coach. I'm in the Colorado.
Speaker 2: And they're twenty one point underdogs to open up the
Speaker 2: season against TCUH, like.
Speaker 3: Eight players left on the roster. I could look, can
Speaker 3: we short that back? Will you take that hot?
Speaker 2: They they had a mass exodus. I mean they're bringing
Speaker 2: in a lot of players. There were a lot of
Speaker 2: players like riding's on the wall here, we're out the door.
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey's going to join us coming up next down.
Speaker 2: What was he third round pick? I think out of Cincinnati, but.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to go to the Eagle.
Speaker 2: His brother, you know, the offensive lineman for the Eagles,
Speaker 2: and they had an opportunity. Now they took zach Ertz,
Speaker 2: so they did pretty well, but and nobody knew what
Speaker 2: Kelsey was going to be. So Travis Kelsey will join
Speaker 2: us coming up. We'll get to more phone calls as well,
Speaker 2: and we'll have a different poll question for the final
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