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Speaker 1: M le Cleveland Brown's Daily live from the ESPN Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Block Party in the East Bank of the Flats. Here

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Speaker 1: are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's do it live on a Thursday edition of The

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Speaker 1: Pearl Gram and doing it live at the East Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Block Party of the East Bank of the Flats. Ie early, Bo,

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Speaker 1: he is the great z Um just behind the curtain

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Speaker 1: a little bit as we were getting ready to start

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Speaker 1: the show, Um, I said, I can't really hear z

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Speaker 1: and you said, well, I can't hear and I still

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Speaker 1: can't quite frankly, so that's not if. It's never a

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Speaker 1: good thing when you can't hear talent, especially when it's

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Speaker 1: at least you have a big p on the case.

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Speaker 1: I said it, Danny, I said, well, how long is

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Speaker 1: the is the use it? You guys are Max? What

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Speaker 1: are we into this now? On the music? Have you

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Speaker 1: ever worked with this machine? Now? We literally learned it

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Speaker 1: two minutes before the shop. Whoa fish, Fish he's coming

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Speaker 1: to Easy? Easy? Alright, easy? I think maybe did old

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Speaker 1: Ac We're good? Did he take did he take our

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Speaker 1: knees out from under us? Before we even started? Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like it's possible. I feel like they can

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Speaker 1: hear myself. Now, maybe Aaron did do you think I

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Speaker 1: can hear? Was he at the dunk take? Is he

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Speaker 1: had possible Denver Bronco Super Bowl Championship T shirt? Look

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Speaker 1: he knows whose audience is the Denver Broncos. Yes, sure,

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Speaker 1: there's people. There are a lot of them here. There's there,

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Speaker 1: there is people. That's right. Um, yeah, So anyway, so

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Speaker 1: then Jimmy goes, oh, yeah, we'll just go. We'll just go.

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Speaker 1: I'll just go. Just we're just going out. We're outside.

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Speaker 1: It is outside. What a day for this gorge perfect perfect,

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Speaker 1: little bit of a breeze, not too hot. What is it?

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Speaker 1: It feels like we could get to eighty at some point.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect that the sea breeze, and it's beautiful in here.

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Speaker 1: These baking the flats are beautiful. So you can come

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Speaker 1: on out. You can enjoy it, have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of food trucks set up. There's all

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Speaker 1: kinds of restaurants. There's a dunk tank that I see

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Speaker 1: over there. Give I think after the way the show started,

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Speaker 1: maybe Gibbey takes a turn in the duct table Penance

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Speaker 1: by the way. For those of you who had gibby

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Speaker 1: asking for free alcohol in the first five minutes of

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Speaker 1: the show, you win, You've won, You get the show. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: How you doing everything good in your world? Everything good here?

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Speaker 1: Everything is good. YEA had a fun day, uh smacking

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Speaker 1: the ball around yesterday after we got off the air,

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Speaker 1: so that was always great. It was beautiful weather and

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Speaker 1: so enjoy that. And then the kids sand bag for you.

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Speaker 1: No kid, no, the kid was not present, not sand bagging.

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Speaker 1: So that was good. Avoided, you know, avoided another good

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Speaker 1: round and the loss actually had a good round and

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Speaker 1: a win, which is fun. Out a hundred strokes of people,

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Speaker 1: it actually turns out to be kind of equitable that way,

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Speaker 1: and so that was a lot of fun. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's great and it's great to be down here

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Speaker 1: and see everybody. I was actually down here right in

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Speaker 1: this area loud Friday for the show, which you with

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Speaker 1: your people. And then where's the odeon from? If we

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Speaker 1: walked kind of around this little semicircle and then straight

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Speaker 1: down that street, it's on the left right across from

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Speaker 1: Collision Bend. Okay, I got you, I got you. Oh

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Speaker 1: is this where Joe Thomas said. The video of the

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Speaker 1: tanker thing that was making the turns, he said, yea,

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Speaker 1: so he was. He was probably sitting in AlleyCats right

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Speaker 1: there looking out and so that's all. And there or

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Speaker 1: they come, actually they come the other one. They come

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Speaker 1: from up the river somehow and out into the lake.

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Speaker 1: I have seen a boat take out the docket shooters.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could see a lot of It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But people are out here doing there on jet skis.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's ever here in a bad time on a jet ski. Never,

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Speaker 1: by the way, So Friday night when I was here,

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Speaker 1: was looking for explanation because it was an opportunity. Of course,

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Speaker 1: So I was I was curious what the explanation was.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever find one? Well, it was on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: allah terminator a little bit of that. Yeah I did

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Speaker 1: not want to see that. Actually it was it was

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Speaker 1: more than you needed, more than it, more than was needed.

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Speaker 1: Came back like Robert Patrick. I was terrifying, wasn't he?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness? That? Could you see him in anything

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Speaker 1: else other than that going forward? I think it kind

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Speaker 1: of ruined us cause and he was stuck playing villains forever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it. There's nothing else in w W E movies.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, as a villain, he had

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Speaker 1: Miss was the star of the marine, like eight of

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Speaker 1: them around. That's right. Come, what was the Christmas movie?

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Speaker 1: He was in? Christmas Mounting? Of course this was in

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Speaker 1: a Christmas two of them actually, in Santa's Little Helper

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Speaker 1: as well. By the way, his dad's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: down here tonight. I saw Harry from Harry Steakhouse, but

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Speaker 1: he said George was supposed to come, but he's off

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Speaker 1: playing cards somewhere. Shocker. All right, what is gonna be?

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Speaker 1: What is going to be the most obscure Brown's uniform

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Speaker 1: we see down here, most obscure Jersey that we see

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Speaker 1: down here today Peyton Hillis would be incredible. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, where would he fit in our cornerback room

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Speaker 1: Joe Hayden At this point, I think it is still

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Speaker 1: very much a starting corner. He is not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: where would he fit in on our defense? That's got

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. We've had so many good guys

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Speaker 1: So it would be. It would be How cool would

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Speaker 1: it just sad. And Sarah Goose was a guy that right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure I'm skipping ahead of the rundown. It's fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: you want to get the third guy, that's what you

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Speaker 1: want to get. You need you need three. I think

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Speaker 1: People that's been debating, like do you want to trade

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Speaker 1: or let's let's make a pick here, trade the pick

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Speaker 1: for a dude. Do you do that, but if not,

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Speaker 1: which package it maybe appears probably unlikely. Yeah, take take

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Speaker 1: a dude. I like that. I do like Malachi Malachi

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Speaker 1: Brandam saw him a lot of Ohio State. He came

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Speaker 1: on the last month and a half. Six seven kid

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Speaker 1: um really good intermediate game. He's got a great pull

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Speaker 1: up game. He shoots the three at a really high percentage.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't shoot enough of them. But he's got

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Speaker 1: a great body, great hand on his shoulders. I'd love

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Speaker 1: for him to go there at fourteen if he's if

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Speaker 1: he's stolen the board, it sounds like him or the

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Speaker 1: of things. Cleave T a earlier today at two hours ago, says,

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Speaker 1: I think Kavs fans should get to know Jalen Williams

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Speaker 1: as quick as possible. And I'll leave it there. How

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Speaker 1: many things, how many front offices can he be plugged into?

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Speaker 1: It feels like all in all sports. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: he has that there, which is which is interesting and

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Speaker 1: then woj this is right for he went on the

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Speaker 1: tonight's NBA draft of the rights to Sasha Vzenkov. Zenkov

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Speaker 1: twenty six, was the first team All EuroLeague forward. He

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Speaker 1: was a fifty I'm picking the seventeen draft. Great, ye

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Speaker 1: might as well be me that they acquired. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: give it's got a few left in him. By the way,

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Speaker 1: The calves are so deep it's actually hard to make

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Speaker 1: that roster. By the way, I like that if they

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Speaker 1: you in this show prep that you've given us. I have,

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Speaker 1: like I'm trying to I don't. He got going here,

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Speaker 1: So you've got it's like sixty pages long, Like look

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Speaker 1: at this when he's going right after look at this.

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Speaker 1: This is a run. This is a prep show. Prep.

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Speaker 1: It's a column. What are we doing here? What am

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Speaker 1: I missing? What I do? What are you? Page four

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Speaker 1: right here where it says the youngsters this is the

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports where Oh, this is the ranking of the backups. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: well what's the next page? Where's our guy on it?

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Speaker 1: We have three pages here? It's inverted. Yeah, it's inverted alright.

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Speaker 1: So they have for set eight on this to countdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden you have this at one, like,

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Speaker 1: what's this about? The third page has Garoppolo, Baker and

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater Folds. Yeah, that's his countdown a backup quarterbacks. He

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Speaker 1: but this starts at one with Huntley, so you have

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Speaker 1: to one. He ranks the youngsters from six to one,

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Speaker 1: and then he says the best of the vets if

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Speaker 1: you look up top on page two. All right, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're gonna put this together, and this

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Speaker 1: is the best of the vets. One had to go

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Speaker 1: before that. This should be the second page. Is how

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Speaker 1: it came on your phone? For a second and listen

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Speaker 1: to me. He's already. Look, so this is this is

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Speaker 1: the rundown we were giving. Yeah, I saw that. I

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Speaker 1: went to the article. Okay, look, no focus. This is

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Speaker 1: on the article. I'm not even interested in the article.

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Speaker 1: I want you to follow what was done here, So

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Speaker 1: get on through six, all right, Then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden I get five. Okay, But then here we have

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Speaker 1: these guys, which are the one through This should be

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Speaker 1: before that page one comes before six, but he's doing

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Speaker 1: a reverse countdown. The guy who authored the article. Thank you, Nathan,

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Speaker 1: the guy, thank you, nybody. Then Pedro call him Nate,

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Speaker 1: thank you Nathan, good job, Nate. No um, that's it's

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Speaker 1: a guy. It's a very it's a it's Cody Benjamin.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on here on this list, by

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Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, it's just and you look at this

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Speaker 1: list and I find it to be almost hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: I Jimmy Garoppolo definitely is one baker. This this is

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Speaker 1: There are two conversations that need to be had when

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Speaker 1: you do something like this. Go ahead. Actual backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: o Jacoby brew Set is an actual backup quarter Yes,

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Speaker 1: an example of that, we had one in case Keenum.

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Speaker 1: This is an actual backup quarterback who has signed with

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Speaker 1: the understanding that he is there to support and back

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Speaker 1: up the starret. That's the jobs. Second tier of this.

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Speaker 1: The second category, if you will, is this one rookies

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Speaker 1: waiting to become starters. And that's what this is. That's

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Speaker 1: what Matt Corral is, That's what Denmon Ritter is, That's

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Speaker 1: what Jordan Love and the Lake willis. Kenny Pickett Huntley's

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Speaker 1: not that. But the other guys are all at least

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Speaker 1: should be in the other in the wrong one the

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Speaker 1: other list, and then the other one is you vet

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Speaker 1: these things out before you the last one, of course

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Speaker 1: he doesn't vet him the last thing on here are

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only one of these guys who were

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Speaker 1: true veteran backups are Bridgewater and Foals. Baker and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: are waiting to be traded. Baker is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks comes a conversation piece, That's why I

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Speaker 1: gave it to and Garoppolo is gonna get traded. Garppolo

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Speaker 1: is gonna get traded. Baker, Baker's gonna get traded. So

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Speaker 1: that's the that's it. So then it's I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is the real conversation or the left over guys? These

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Speaker 1: are all like the real backups? Well are they rank?

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Speaker 1: In case? Keenom ouad of our guy? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like it. The case is good. Case is good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Heinak seems high. Gardner. I don't know. Dalton,

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Speaker 1: I kind of liked it. I kind of like, like

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Speaker 1: five spots ahead of Dalton. I tell you who needs

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Speaker 1: Minshew is Seattle. They can take Minshew out there. He

638
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Speaker 1: might win too much. But he's a Washington he played

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Speaker 1: at Washington State. He's a Southern gid, but he play

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Speaker 1: at Washington States. All right, Gibbe, guess the stats for you, Gardner,

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Speaker 1: Minshew twenty seven career games. Give me his touchdowns and interceptions?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, twenty seven career games, touchdowns and interceptions,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I'm gonna say fourteen touchdowns? It alright. Just

644
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Speaker 1: so the people we did guess the stats. People gathered around.

645
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Speaker 1: They wanted to see Gibe in his element. And the

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Speaker 1: question once again, any seven career games, Gardner, Minshew's touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and interceptions? You said, foss, Yeah, okay, do you do

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Speaker 1: you want to like? Well, what I would say is

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Speaker 1: that he would have been better off in vertict. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you gonna say twenty five. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: even I don't even think it's that bad it's probably

652
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Speaker 1: been better than that. I'll go thirty and twelve forty

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns for Minshew twelve picks. Wow, I had the

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00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: interceptions right, but twelve low on the better than three

655
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Speaker 1: to one touchdown interception ratio have been fourteen and twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the mustache and just the behavior

657
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Speaker 1: makes people not taking serious? So I feel like he's

658
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: a better fits Magic, But fits Magic didn't become fits

659
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: Magic until he's been in the league over a decade.

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Speaker 1: If you remember when he first came out, he was

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Speaker 1: out of Harvard, clean shaven, with the Rams running the

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Speaker 1: Mike Martz offenses. First came he came in through for

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards three touchdowns in the second half in

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Speaker 1: relief of Mark Boulger. But he was never a big

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Speaker 1: personality guy until the very end. By the way Riz

666
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: throwing on the dunk, take oh for two right now

667
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Speaker 1: from fairly close range, I might owe for three to

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Speaker 1: come on, Riz, pipe it down there, man four times

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Speaker 1: a charm Well done, sir, well done, well done, Uncle

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00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Rizzy gets it done there. But you had a nice

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: stroke on that. Gardner is the guy that we talked about.

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00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: A lot of man there have been people that had

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00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: compared his style and his play to that of our

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Speaker 1: former quarterback Baker Mayfield. If he has those numbers, why

675
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: can't I'm telling you the mustache of the persona I

676
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: really think it is. I think people don't take him seriously.

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00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: You see how he dresses. You know, when he comes out,

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Speaker 1: people like, we are we really going to pay a

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00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: guy to be a franchise quarterback who comes out and

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00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: jean shorts and a mustache. I agree, but that they're

681
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: not telling you he's making a mistake. He's making a

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Speaker 1: persona mistake. It's hurting his brand a little bit. Man

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Speaker 1: Mens Humana. I like our guy. I think Kobe, if

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00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: called upon, is going to do great um a lot

685
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: of um. Anthony Walker had high praise for him from

686
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: observing him in his time in Indie. When he came

687
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: up to sign his contract, he flew with Anthony Walker Jr.

688
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: They came together. I like the idea of anybody who

689
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Speaker 1: can win a three point contest big the backup court

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00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: and what was he was? He like, twelve of fifteen

691
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: is a pretty big number. Yeah, I was like twelve

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: and fifteen Yeah, I mean mathematician. But that's folks, we

693
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: had heartbreak at the basketball camp this afternoon from my

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Speaker 1: ten year old. Uh, he's in the three point contest finals.

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Speaker 1: Um finished one shot off. I said, well, how many

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Speaker 1: you make? And he said nine? And I said how

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Speaker 1: many you take? And he said fifteen? And I said

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Speaker 1: you at nine and fifteen at ten years old and

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Speaker 1: you've lost on a real three point shot? Yeah, I said, coach,

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Speaker 1: hold your head high. But yeah, that's don't worry about that.

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: Sub kid made ten. Tip your hat. Sometimes sometimes you

702
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Speaker 1: get the bar and sometimes it's the three point line.

703
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: Different than in my understanding how shooting from they just

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Speaker 1: shoot it all the time. It's Steph, Steph did this?

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Speaker 1: Step did it? It's so spacing and all these kids

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Speaker 1: wanted it's to his I mean, it's he's probably in

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00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: that instant in that regard. Probably his impact on the

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00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: game is as big as anybody's for sure. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, do you think if they did the same

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Speaker 1: thing from seventeen that they would not shoot as higher

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Speaker 1: percentage as they would from three. I wouldn't go seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but I would go fifteen fifteen. Okay, Like if you went,

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00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: like I bet you ten didn't win the free throw contests.

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00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: I bet less won the free throw contest, and I

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00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: think they probably shoot as good or better from three

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Speaker 1: than they do from fifteen I bet better than Yeah,

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00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: they probably never even they don't. They don't ever shoot it. No,

718
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: they don't. They want to come down and they stop

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Speaker 1: at the line. He made a living from fifteen on.

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Speaker 1: The Gardener's only made three million dollars in his career,

721
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: forty two touchdowns, seventeen picks. Is he in a roster

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00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: right now? Where is he Philly? He's still in Philly

723
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Speaker 1: backing up? Would they be better with him than Hurts?

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Speaker 1: It feels like I think so Hurts gives him the runs,

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00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: gives him the running abil idiot, and you know, they

726
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Hurts is apparently a great leader and all of that.

727
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: So they really like Jalen Hurts it. And look, if

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00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts can't do it this year with Avante Smith,

729
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: with a J. Brown, with Dallas Goddard, it's not going

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: to happen. So this is I think his test, This

731
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: is his test to see if he can be that guy.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise they're gonna have to make They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: make some kind of a move. Yeah, real No, that's real, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: All time quarterback lists coming up next, broadcasting from the

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Speaker 1: you're sitting right across it. Absolutely, man. I could see

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Speaker 1: This is why we need a Stevie. Stevie would be

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Speaker 1: out there getting offer, going out tomorrow, Scale A one

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Speaker 1: to ten. I'm there there, We're ready, We're ready. Can't wait,

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Speaker 1: you can't wait. You can't wait to get him in here.

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00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get a part of the I

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: gotta see where we got, all right, so you get

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Speaker 1: the boots on the ground at Jordan's football with the

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Speaker 1: all time quarterback tires? Who did this? Who's I couldn't

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Speaker 1: print this out because it wouldn't fit on the landscape,

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't fit on the portrait. I did email it

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Speaker 1: to you all, but I have it here and I

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Speaker 1: can read it through. Okay, let's play the game. Let's

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Speaker 1: play the game off the top of our head. Play

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00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: here one. Okay, there's one guy already already wrong. That's

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Speaker 1: not right. The best quarterbacks he can be at the top.

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Speaker 1: Something that isn't discussed like, it's fine. We can all

770
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: say acknowledge greatness for sure. Most of Blish Yes, proved

771
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: this did all that you can do right, But also, boy,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a group in there with him. I

773
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Speaker 1: don't know that it's I don't think it's as straightforward

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00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: as no one could be in that group. Agree, there

775
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: are three people that should be in that group. Well,

776
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: there's four in tier two, there's only three. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: go back to two years three. My three or three

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00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: in tier one included Cleveland Brown. Okay, he's in tier three.

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00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Joe Tom would have said, I would have Peyton right there.

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Speaker 1: I would have had Johnny Unitis as the third. I

781
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean it did he have the game?

782
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: Auto did? I don't know. We've the only one I've

783
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: actually watched Auto Graham tape with Alex van Pelto. I

784
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: can say that I've at least watched his tape, and

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Speaker 1: it was it was rather impressive. I have not watched

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Speaker 1: any Johnny United States, but that's basically what everybody is.

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00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: Everybody told me, why is he laughing? I haven't had

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00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: this much fun. It was so great the last that

789
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: we both caught. I feel like I missed something really special.

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00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: It was. It makes me sad. It was, um yeah,

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: all right, So I mean we continue to do this show.

792
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: In Cleveland. The man's got a statue outside in the future.

793
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Can I get like a time like it was there?

794
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: It was there, it was gone. It was such a

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00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: quick two o'clock. He had to I mean, he had

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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: to be just lucky, um um, all right, So I

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00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: would I would have Joe tom Otto, you would have

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Speaker 1: Joe tom Johnny okay. Next, So in their tier one

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Speaker 1: is Brady alone. I don't like. I don't like their

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Speaker 1: tier two. There's four qbs. Okay, there's Joe yep, there's

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00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Peyton yep, Aaron Rodgers no, and Drew Brees. No? Hell?

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00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: What even are not even cluing this conversation in the

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Speaker 1: first of all? First of all, like Rogers, I say, no,

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Speaker 1: but oh Peyton, you could put Peyton in that list

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Speaker 1: at the top if you said it was Brady Montana Peyton, Like,

806
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody have problem. But that next group.

807
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: John always got to be in that next group over

808
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Dan Marino should be in their over Drew Brees.

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00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: And they never won a Super Bowl. Then you got

810
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: Johnny United, you got Otto Graham. Where are they at?

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Speaker 1: Where's John United? Here? Three? His horse face? Oh better

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00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: than Drew Brees better than Drew Brees and Steve Young.

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Speaker 1: Someone brought this to our someone tweeted this to me

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Speaker 1: earlier today, and I'm like, I'm using it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think this is it's discussion for the sake of discussion.

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00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: It is. It's hard for me to sit here. I mean,

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00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: like we're quippling with all time grades, um, and there's

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Speaker 1: a big group of guys like you, like, what's the

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Speaker 1: difference between Roger Like, to me, Rogers is better than

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Speaker 1: far agreed, right, yes, and I think he's better than Breeze, um,

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Speaker 1: Breeze to me, feel and it's it's not It seems

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Speaker 1: a little bit like an accumulator and he came achieve

823
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: in it because he's absurdly accurate. But like, but he

824
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: was a guy who had to play in a dome

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00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: or outdoors into he could not play. He could not

826
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Speaker 1: play in cold weather or out he couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: He was very limited in where he was able to

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Speaker 1: have success. So he's not one of the all time great.

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Speaker 1: Has he done some of the all time great things? Yes,

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Speaker 1: all time great seasons, all time great completion percentages, all

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Speaker 1: of that. Yes, yes he has, But no he's not

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Speaker 1: up there. And look, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: if you said you're playing the all time game, okay,

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Speaker 1: and you could have four quarterbacks in it, there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt in my mind none that Tom Brady, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: Paytman and would be in that game. Now, who the

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Speaker 1: fourth guy is is probably up for debate, and it

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00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: could be Autogram, it could be Johnny Union, you could say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it could it could be in a decade,

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00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: it could be Pat Mahomes. Right, but those three as

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00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: of right now are unimpeachable to be invited to play

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Speaker 1: in that game at the most important the world, and

843
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Speaker 1: everybody else's is beneath them. No problem with that. How

844
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Speaker 1: did they deal with Mahomes. Tier four is Bart Star,

845
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. He should not even be on the list

846
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Speaker 1: than any tier Big Ben No, Fran Tarkington, Eli Manning

847
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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. Okay, I want to know who's behind

848
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Speaker 1: that list. Who's five? Tier five? Philip Rivers Mahomes appreciate,

849
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Speaker 1: has Matt Ryan on this list? He has Matt. He

850
00:44:54,200 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: has Pat Mahomes below, Troy Aikman, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon, Bradshaw, Warner,

851
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Speaker 1: Sammy bah and Jim Kelly. Yeah, so Warner Warner at

852
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Speaker 1: his best would have been better than half the guys

853
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Speaker 1: you had in that total. Correct. I think Warner is

854
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: best might be better than Drew Brees for sure. I

855
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: don't promise that statement either. The Tier six is just

856
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: it gets this is the last one. Matt Ryan, Len Dawson,

857
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: Joe Namath, Huh, Drew Bledsoe, Donovan McNabb, Kenny Stabler, Matt Stafford, Snake,

858
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Norm van Brocklin, So, Johnny Knights, Jim was Sid Luckman?

859
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: Who was he was in Tier three? Tier three? And

860
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: where was Otto? Tier three? Tier three? This is this

861
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: is someone who doesn't know NFL. You hate to see it.

862
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: I really hate to see those things. What bothers me

863
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: right now is quite frankly, in the in the light

864
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Speaker 1: of Rob Gronkowski's second retirement, one of the things that

865
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about was do that for the

866
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: greatest tight end of all time? Did you see what

867
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Speaker 1: Russo did? Dog? No, what did he say? Maybe had

868
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Lisz best? I dad to quarterbacks? You know, everything he

869
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Speaker 1: does is like from the seventies. If he were in

870
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: the seventies and it sucked sow Fouts and Winslow were

871
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: one with the number one quarterback tight end combination in

872
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. He had Brady Gronk five.

873
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me? He had Gronk five. Where did

874
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: he have mahomes Kelsey? Not on? No? Where? In fact,

875
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: the only contemporary was Brady Mahon or was Brady Gronk?

876
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: That was the only contemporary. Everybody else did he had

877
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: on it? Like Unitus and John Mackie and um, I

878
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: want to say Oz and something. I felt like Oz

879
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: was on there, there's one more. They were all old

880
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: though it was. It's perfect because it creates Steven agos

881
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: nuts and then then everybody wins. So let me ask

882
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: you this, and this is just for my own well

883
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: not for the kids obviously. How many people who would

884
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: get Russo's references or be like, yeah, what happened in

885
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: the seventies is better what happens things? But is watching first?

886
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: Take what's the demo of over sixty? What they want,

887
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Speaker 1: what s ton A wants is to respond dramatically to something,

888
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Speaker 1: and that's what he gets to. So he said, bring

889
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Speaker 1: me somebody, bring me somebody say things with conviction that

890
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: are nonsensical that I can go at and that's my goodness,

891
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I just saw it. I just saw it. That's right. Oh,

892
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Speaker 1: holy moly, you can. I won't get what that's what

893
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: I said. Fildways positive Jay is always dry Jay right now,

894
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: as long as gold Hammers throwing the ball all right.

895
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, our new

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Speaker 1: tight end, Marcos Santos Silva joining us from Texas Tech

897
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Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns. It's coming up next. You listen

898
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Speaker 1: to learn more on that, as we had it on

904
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Speaker 1: the hotline for a visit with our new tight end,

905
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: Marcos Santos Sylvia, Marcus Santo Sylvia rather joining us on

906
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: the hotline. Boy, this is a remarkable thing, this story.

907
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: It really is when you think in terms of what sorry,

908
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: yeah Silva, sorry, thank you, yeah. Market, Let's let's just go.

909
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Let's start with this. But for the folks who aren't

910
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: aware you you are a guy who aspired to be

911
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: a professional basketball player and played it at a very

912
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: high level in the Big twelve at Tescas, Texas deck,

913
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: how do you end up with the Cleveland Browns playing football? Um?

914
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: So what happened was like, yeah, um, I used to

915
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Speaker 1: play football when I was seven until I was in

916
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Speaker 1: high school. And the next you know, my freshman year,

917
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Speaker 1: I started to love of basketball more and I started

918
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: to taking serious and then it just led me all

919
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Speaker 1: the way to Tech. And then right after our season

920
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: was over from played Duke in sixteen, I was going

921
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: I was doing the whole NBA route, but I wasn't

922
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: really getting calls by like NBA teams. I was getting

923
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: more overseas calls. And then the football coach at Teck

924
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, Hey, I'm just getting

925
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: I've been getting a lot of calls from you for

926
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: NFL teams that are wondering if you would do the switch.

927
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Speaker 1: And the next thing you know it, I started to

928
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: think about it, and then once I decided to take

929
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: it serious, like two weeks a week a week later,

930
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: I ended up having the workout with the Browns so

931
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: what was that workout like? You come out to the

932
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Speaker 1: cross Country Mortgage campus. What was that workout like for you?

933
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: What did they put you through it? And how did

934
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: you think you did? Um So, I came out here

935
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Speaker 1: and they flew me out like on a Sunday night,

936
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Speaker 1: a man, Monday morning, when did a physical and then

937
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: I just did around In the afternoon, I came into

938
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Speaker 1: the facility. They had me to do like a regular

939
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Speaker 1: like prow day. Basically run up forty, run a five five,

940
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: did the lane jump, and then after that it ran

941
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: routes and I did blocking right after Marcus, when did

942
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: when when these when this stuff first starts trickling, you know,

943
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: trickling your way and the information and the interest is there?

944
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Speaker 1: What what is that like inside your head of like, yeah,

945
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: I think I can do this. When did that happen?

946
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: When did you start to train? When did it start

947
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: to be something you thought, Man, maybe this is the

948
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 1: path because someone of your basketball talents could absolutely play

949
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Speaker 1: whether it was in the league or overseas. I'm sure

950
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: you still have options to do that if you want

951
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Speaker 1: to do. But what made you make this? This is

952
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Speaker 1: youn at this point. Um So, my sophomore year at

953
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Speaker 1: my other school, I went to d c U. I

954
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: started to get like people was telling me like NFL

955
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: teams was like already like interested in me because we

956
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: had a we had a player there, a named Moiley

957
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: Cox was the starting tight end with the cult and

958
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: real were real close and he did the switch. So

959
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: then like I think Scott started to see me over

960
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: there and like people that like, would you conservant? And

961
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: I thought it was way too early to do it

962
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: because I still wanted to see was this basketball was

963
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: going to pan out? And then next you know, as

964
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: the years go on, more talk up on coming about it,

965
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: and then uh, right after the Duke game that happened.

966
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Speaker 1: And then once I decided to like fully committed, I

967
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: started to work out like a good uh once it

968
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: a good week and a half before my workout, and

969
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: then I came up here did it? They signed me?

970
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: And then now with the whole process, I feel like

971
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm ana just beat, I'm a I'm a hundred committed

972
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: in this whole thing. I really want to make this

973
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: workout because I've been actually having a lot fun with it.

974
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: So when you come up here, you do the workout

975
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: and Adam Alkayel, the Brown's assistant director of pro Personnel.

976
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: He's the one who kind of presented the case to

977
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: bring you in to Dan Sagony and Glenn Cookie and

978
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry. They bring you in and then he gets

979
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: to tell you that you get a contract. And what

980
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: was that moment like for you when when he said

981
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: we're signing you and let you know what that actually

982
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: meant that you would be a part of the Cleveland

983
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: Browns obviously this season going into training camp and not

984
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: just back for rookie mini camp, but that the brown

985
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: signed you. They wanted to have you in their program

986
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: um one. So after I got down with the workout,

987
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: I would say like I after like dirty minutes I had,

988
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: I was talking to them and then it was like,

989
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: oh you they liked what they stopped. I mean it

990
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: was just telling me stuff and then it said like

991
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: we would like to sign you. So in my mind,

992
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, he's gonna be gonna sign me to

993
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: come in for a rookie minicamp because I had I

994
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: had two scheduled. Uh after that workout, I had two

995
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: other rookie minicamps coming up that I was already committed

996
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: to to go to and so I was like, Okay,

997
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna I mean through to a rookie mini camp.

998
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: I gotta do that. So I asked. I was like, oh,

999
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: you guys are signed me to a rookie minicamp, right.

1000
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: He was like, no, we're signed you to the roster.

1001
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: So then when he when that happened, I was like,

1002
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: I was like in shock, and then like yeah, I asked.

1003
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, do you guys care if I

1004
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: swear right now? And I because I was like, I

1005
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: was like, I was like surprised, like like I was like, oh,

1006
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: like I told my agent before I went there, like yeah,

1007
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: they I'm gonna make They're gonna offer me a contract

1008
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: because I was like real confident work out, like I

1009
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be really good enough to it.

1010
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: But then when they actually when they actually told me

1011
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna offer me, They're gonna give me a contract,

1012
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: it was like I was like, Wow, it's an awesome story.

1013
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: And you mentioned you know with mo Aali Cox, and

1014
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: he's had you know, some ups and downs in the

1015
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: sense that he was on a practice squad, he was

1016
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: waived a bunch times, and now you know, he's a

1017
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: guy who's I think he's had six touchdowns last couple

1018
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: of seasons and they just signed him to a contract extension.

1019
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: So it's cool that you have somebody you know who's

1020
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: followed this path. What's kind of been the best piece

1021
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: of advice that he's given you or and I'm sure

1022
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: he's fired up for you to get this opportunity. Um,

1023
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: he just really told me. He was like physically, he's like,

1024
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna be straight with the physical part. He's like,

1025
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: it's just mostly like mental, Like you like, you really

1026
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: gotta like I asked to some point, and he was like,

1027
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: I just he just wouldn't all he was all committed

1028
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: in the playbook because he was like coming basically mean

1029
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: him coming from basketball, we don't really know any football terminology,

1030
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: football schemes, so like compared to like someone that's been

1031
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: in college with both have been playing, they understake could

1032
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: they could pick it up because they understand it. To us,

1033
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: it's like a whole new language. So he was like,

1034
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: you really just got to be committed to the UH playbook.

1035
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: And then that's what I've just been doing. And then

1036
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: right now since we're having this break until training camp,

1037
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: that's like one of my main goals is to uh

1038
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: commit to the playbook. And then he also told me like,

1039
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: uh footwork and all that, because it's all different footwork

1040
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: from basketball and football. So like he was the point

1041
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: is that he gave me it really like helped me

1042
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: out coming in if I had a type of had

1043
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: like a good type of vision of what it was

1044
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: going to be like. But then once I came here,

1045
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and then like stuff started to

1046
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: pick up for me. So basically the stuff that he

1047
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: told me that was gonna be a challenge that had

1048
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: when you could work on, it's stuff I've been focused on. Marcus,

1049
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: Is there is it? Who do you do? You watch

1050
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: film with guys? Are there? Are? Are there guys you

1051
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: study guys in the league that you get tape on

1052
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: and you're trying to transition who who? What do you doing?

1053
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: From that perspective? Um, the main person I watched is Ronk,

1054
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: like because I like, I like we're both tall and

1055
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: big and like same kind of same body type. So

1056
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: I waked about of Gronk. Um. I like watching Kiddle Kelsey. Um.

1057
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: I really like like I really watched any like really

1058
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: good any tight ends in the league, and I really

1059
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: pay attention to like their footwork and stuff. And you

1060
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: mentioned the footwork and and and blocking is a part

1061
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: of it, right, It's one thing. And the in Uh Kiddo,

1062
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: I watched kiddo because he's really good at block. In

1063
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: um Kelsey, I watched because if his boat, his boat

1064
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: worked and all that, and then Uh drunk, I just

1065
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: watched his overall, just watch what he does because that's

1066
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to model my game. Like absolutely, from

1067
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: your mouth to gods is that would be tremendous for

1068
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: you and for this organization obviously, you know. And you've

1069
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: got a guy in your room and David and Joeku

1070
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: came in the league very young and not played much

1071
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: tight and really kind of started getting going in in college,

1072
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: and yet he's become one of the better blockers. So

1073
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: you've got guys in your room that you can lean

1074
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: on as well. I do want to say this from

1075
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: being out there, you are a very natural catcher of

1076
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: the football, and I know that's one of the things

1077
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: they've talked about. You don't fight the ball at all.

1078
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: Looks like you've been catching a football a long time

1079
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: and it's different than a basketball. Is that something that

1080
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: you worked really hard on kind of prior to coming

1081
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: out here, and just how to catch it, how to

1082
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: high point, how to make kind of like that diamond

1083
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: see the ball at the point of the ball come

1084
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: through there, because at least to my my eye anyway,

1085
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: it looks very natural to you catching a football. Oh yeah,

1086
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: but first yeah, Um, so when you're talking about the

1087
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: joke of that first year, I also, uh, the Joku

1088
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: and Bryant and Miller and um Johnt they've been helping

1089
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: out a lot with me over here. And just like

1090
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: I think watching film, watching film way different watching in person,

1091
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: like watching Harrison and how he's runs he blocks, watching

1092
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: especially watching the Joku, like just how he runs, his catching,

1093
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: his blocking, I really pay attention to him. He's been

1094
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: helping out with a lot of pointers, so that's been good.

1095
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: And then for the catching, Um, I think I would

1096
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: say basketball would have to do something like do some

1097
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: of it. But um, when I started to workout, I

1098
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: remember my first day I was working out, I was

1099
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: going out catching and like my trainer was saying, like

1100
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: you they would expect to like a basketball player coming

1101
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: to football, have hard hands. Stones, like they said, stone

1102
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: hands and not like catches sock hands. And he was like, na,

1103
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: you just naturally catch so like that. And then um,

1104
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: when I went back to Tech to work out with

1105
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: one of the qbs, he was like, yeah, you just

1106
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: gotta work on technique and all that stuff. But he's like,

1107
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: you're catching it like and like he's like, you're catching good.

1108
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: Like you just you look natural catching the ball. And

1109
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: then what I look at it. I just like, really

1110
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: just focus on the ball and I just look at

1111
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: all right. When the QB goes it to me, that

1112
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: put trust in me, so finally make this catch. So

1113
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: that's how I just really look at it. For those

1114
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: of you out there who don't watch a lot of

1115
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: college basketball, and one of the factor in this, Marcus

1116
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: played it at VCU and then at Texas Tech. I'm

1117
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: sure he would corroborate this. Those are two of the

1118
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: most physical, toughest programs you can play at. I mean,

1119
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: Tech rugged. You guys are rugged at Tech. You were

1120
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. This year the same as well.

1121
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean that is battles in the Big twelve and

1122
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: is rugging a conference and a rugging his style of players.

1123
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna find, Oh, yeah, definitely. Our head coach at Tech,

1124
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: he he really was like, if you're not going to

1125
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: play defense and go all out, I don't want you.

1126
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: So that's what we really did was just play hard,

1127
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: to just play defense over there in Tech. That's what

1128
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: they're known for West Texas toughness. They stay over there.

1129
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of ironic that the Big Twelve in basketball

1130
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: is known as the physical tough division and in football,

1131
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: I think there's more defense played in Big twelve basketball

1132
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: in football, it feels that way. Football, it's really known

1133
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: for the high scoring in the office, absolutely slinging it

1134
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: around the yard there has did that like physicality helping

1135
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: as the physicality of the game at all surprised you,

1136
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: and I know you guys really haven't gotten into that.

1137
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm probably sure you're looking forward to that in training camp,

1138
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: getting the pads on it and actually playing some football.

1139
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: Is that something that you enjoy, The contact of physicality,

1140
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: the ability to you know, as a tight end right

1141
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: you do everything. And that's why they say it is

1142
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: a position that can take some time because you need

1143
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: to know everything in the past game, and you need

1144
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: to know everything in the run game and be an

1145
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: extension of the offensive line at times. Do you like

1146
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: that physicality and is that something you're looking forward to

1147
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: putting the pads on and getting to actually feel that physicality.

1148
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely on one. When I was younger and

1149
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: I used to play, everyone used to say I was

1150
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: just like physical and and playing that my my position

1151
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: when I played in basketball is physical. But he's definitely

1152
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: not the same as football. And I think, honestly, like

1153
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about the physicality point, Like I

1154
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: like what I'm getting into for football, and like, just

1155
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: so i know I'm gonna go out there and just

1156
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: do what I gotta do. I know i'm gonna get

1157
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: hit blocking all that, I'm gonna be good with that.

1158
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, once I get the hang of it,

1159
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm also getting back to contact and I'm gonna hold

1160
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: my ground out there. And then just I just told people.

1161
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: People would come up and be like, oh, you're right

1162
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: for some boys to be hitting in football. I was like, yeah,

1163
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. It's just I didn't realize how

1164
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: mentally football was with the playbook, like that's the main

1165
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: thing at first that I'm really like, that's the main

1166
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: thing that the playbook yeah, and all the different checks

1167
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: you could have based on the defensive alignment and how

1168
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: a route could be this, but if they're lined up

1169
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: that way, you're running a different round. And all the

1170
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: little things you need to worry about, blitz pickups. It's

1171
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: a ton. It is a ton to digest. And it's

1172
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: good that you're already diving in the playbook and that

1173
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: you got Moilcoco to kind of help guide you there,

1174
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: and the players in your room and your your position

1175
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: coach TC McCartney. So you've got that there. What I

1176
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: want to ask you about real quick is, I know

1177
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: the Browns went out to the Cavs facility the other day,

1178
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: and you know you're coming in. You were a college

1179
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: basketball player at the highest level. Did you were you

1180
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: surprised that some of the skills some of the guys

1181
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: had in that day at the Calves? And do you

1182
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: feel like the Browns could put together a pretty formidable

1183
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: basketball team? Oh? Yeah, they could put a really good

1184
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: basketball team. M jacobd said. Would be the three point

1185
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: shooting he ended up winning. Oh yeah, he was stroking it.

1186
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: But um um, you know it was I wasn't really

1187
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: surprised because like, if you look at it. Most of

1188
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: the guys on that play football, they ended up playing

1189
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: high school basketball on their free time. They go, they go,

1190
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: they go shoot around, and so I wasn't really surprised

1191
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: with that. It was it was actually fun that he

1192
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: was able to go out there and do that. Were

1193
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: you gonna lock some people up? I feel like I

1194
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: feel like you would. Thank you, brother, I feel like

1195
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: you'd locked some people. Uh, lock some people up there

1196
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: between you. J Okay was was All State and he

1197
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: says he's like Dona defensive guy. It was some of

1198
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: the guys like some of the some of the defense

1199
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: and me, um, we was playing someone down low, face

1200
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: up in the post and coach the fans. He came.

1201
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, make sure you guys are careful

1202
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: over here. But he was having a nice friendly competition

1203
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: over there. Who was? Who was? Who was? Who surprised

1204
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: you when you were down in the post with him? Who?

1205
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Who is? Who caught your attention? Um? Curtis, he has

1206
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: he has some good moves. He has some good He

1207
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: got me with some good fake yeah wow, right, okay,

1208
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: he have some he has some good moves down there.

1209
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: And then um uh Chase, he went on a or scoring.

1210
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: He went. He scored fourth straight on all of us

1211
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: in one and he has like the old man moves

1212
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: down there. So he played one game, he's like, I'm done.

1213
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Go out on a high note. Man. Absolutely for him,

1214
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: he's like, right if he's scoring me at the game point,

1215
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I'm done. I'm done getting a good

1216
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: Marc as we we watched the ALF tonight, the NBA

1217
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: drafted tonight. We'll be interested that played a lot of

1218
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: the guys. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it because I

1219
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: know a couple of some of our friends were in there.

1220
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: And then some of my teammates who I feel like

1221
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: they might get drafted. I told one im like, hey,

1222
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: if you guys get a contract from the keep Cleveland Cavaliers,

1223
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: calm down here like it. It's beautiful. Could probably be

1224
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: we could probably be roommates. The smart Smart I'm voting

1225
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: for one of them to come down here. But now

1226
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm happy for them. They all they all did, they

1227
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: all worked really hard to get to where they are

1228
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: right now, so I'm definitely gonna be supporting them. That's

1229
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Well, this is gonna be a fun

1230
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: voyage for you over the next couple of months and

1231
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 1: once we get into camp. Really great having you on today.

1232
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, Pal, Thank you for having me.

1233
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Yeah man. Best of all, right,

1234
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: that's our tight end, Marcus Santos Silva joining on the hotline.

1235
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: They're played at Texas Tech. That team was a full

1236
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: day coach that nobody wanted to play. That team. I'm

1237
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: pretty sure they'd beat Kansas this year. I can't remember

1238
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: in Allen when the Jays were It is amazing the defense,

1239
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: and I thought I was thinking about some of the

1240
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: other teams that I watched in the tournament this year

1241
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: that played d out of the Big twelve, and it's

1242
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: such a heart does basketball, well, Kansas is that too.

1243
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: It's a good point. Soft football coms totally soft, but

1244
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: Kansas was physical. They won the national title. Did not

1245
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: a single Big twelve defender get drafted in the first

1246
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 1: like three rounds or something this year, Well, Texas didn't

1247
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: have a single player drafted. Yeah, things are changing from

1248
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: arch Banning. Well, they have two perfect quarterbacks now. Coinneas

1249
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: is there in arch Banning going to Texas unreal, by

1250
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: the way, in an era of and of course he's

1251
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: getting the best. I'll get to that. But the um

1252
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: in an era of all of the show me, me

1253
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: me stuff in recruiting. Of course, he has perfect advisors

1254
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: in his family. Um, Arch Banning has he has tweeted

1255
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: once in his life, and all it was is I

1256
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: am committed to Texas with a picture of him in

1257
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: a Texas T shirt. That's it. That's his one tweet.

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Speaker 1: There's no hat dance, nothing like one tweet. That's it. Um.

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Speaker 1: But he's also there Texas. There have been three quote

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Speaker 1: perfect quarterback prospects of seven scouting rankings Texas had in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years since I've been doing it, all

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: of them went to Texas. Vince Young, Queen Yours who

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Speaker 1: went to State last year and then transferred to Texas,

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Speaker 1: and now Arch. So you were and when does arts start?

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Speaker 1: He's in. It's going into a senior year of high schools.

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Speaker 1: He'll start next year. Yours has a year to play there.

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Speaker 1: He's got he's got, well, yeah, I don't. But they

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Speaker 1: both won't be there next year. I'm sure yours will

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Speaker 1: transfer again. If he's sure, I mean they both won't

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Speaker 1: be there. I don't think next year. And Arch ain't

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Speaker 1: going anywhere, Like, he's not gonna transfer like the Mannings.

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Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he decommitted. Like I think, once

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Speaker 1: he's in, he's in, unless there's a coaching change. If

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Speaker 1: there's a coaching change, it could be that case. That's

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Speaker 1: in play the reason he goes there. So so first

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Speaker 1: of all, they got a couple more years left in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve. But their coaches Steve Sarkisian, he was

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01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: the office of coordinator at Alabama, who's very well. They

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Speaker 1: had the success with two and all those guys, So

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Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think it's a big gamble

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01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: to me, like for the Mannings to Plus, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a great town, great town all of it's a

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01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: bigger town. So it's out like it's going to be

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01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: quite the microscope that he would be under if he

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01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: was you know, an Athens, Georgia auction Mississippi or so,

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be in the SEC. Well, they will be.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're going to the SEC his his second year.

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01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: In his second year they'll be. They'll start to transfer Oka.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean he's got to play three, he's

1290
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: gotta be there three. So yeah, he'll get a couple

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Speaker 1: of years of sec play. And it's perfect for Texas

1292
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: because now they can recruit, he can recruit for them.

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01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: They should be that they should have a top class. Yeah,

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: they will, they'll they'll be able to put that. That's

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: a massive get for them. You can't understate it. From

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: from from Steve Sarcasian standpoint, I mean it's potential to

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: be a job saver because the temperature on that would

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01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: turn up pretty quickly there, Like i mean he's only

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01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: been there a year, but like if he stacks the

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: seven and five or whatever, do that a couple of years,

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: you're gone. Um, So this has a chance though, as

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: we said, it's it's Alabama, it's Georgia, it's Ohio state.

1303
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: And then you have now a rotating fourth right, so

1304
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: it can be cleansing for a while. It's been Oklahoma LSU.

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be at least for the next few

1306
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: years Texas in US. Can they build it that fast

1307
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: in Texas because they can recruit that quickly around him? No?

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01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: Not well sort of. I mean they've done a decent

1309
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: job in recruiting the one to pay attention to his

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: usc to like don't get them because They had Caleb Williams,

1311
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: who was the number one quarterback last year at Oklahoma.

1312
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: He transferred with Lincoln running and the receiver and the

1313
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: receiver from Pitt went there and sent all of their

1314
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: guys from o U and they have a commitment from

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: the number one duel threat quarterback and next year's class

1316
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: is going to USC. So USC could flip it pretty

1317
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: quickly too. Yeah, but it takes years of recruiting on

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: those lines to be able to You have to have

1319
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: so much depth to beat Bama, to beat Georgia. I

1320
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: really thought he was gonna go to Bama. I thought

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: it was gonna be like a gift to the Mannings,

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: to the Save And you know, I've stunned. Did he

1323
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: picked Texas? Yeah, I think it's a bit of it.

1324
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: I know that it was leaning that way, so that

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: maybe just like the town. And I mean, couldn't he

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: have he couldn't I feel like he could have gone

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: to l s U two and brought them. Well that's

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: Bryan and Kelly though, so he doesn't want to. So

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01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted any part of that because

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: he's still there is He was from Louisiana's New Orleans

1331
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. They played at the same high

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: school as as both brothers and his dad. They all

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01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: played at that is it or Newman School in New Orleans. Yeah, so,

1334
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: but it was I think like a lot of people

1335
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: are hoping old miss but like Kiffen doesn't fit. They're

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: like the Manning style. I don't think um because there's

1337
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: dire wolf. Georgia had a lot of juice, for sure.

1338
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: Georgia had a lot of juice. And then it seemed

1339
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: like it's between Georgia and Texas, so ends up in Texas.

1340
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: He could get why you like it? I mean that

1341
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: place is pretty cool? Yeah, pretty cool? And yeah, so

1342
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: there you go. We are broadcasting live here on the

1343
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: East bank of the Flats at the esp and Cleveland

1344
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: Block Party. We have all sorts of fun here. We

1345
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: have dunk tanks going on, Old Act going in at

1346
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: two thirty, I get it, Is he in there now?

1347
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: I think he's already? Did he go in already? I

1348
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: saw it felt like Emmett was up there for five minutes. Yeah,

1349
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: I don't think Emmett went through his entire shift. There's

1350
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: also a thing to our right right here, cracked the

1351
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: code for a chance to win. Old X already gone

1352
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: in once. I mean he's already been in the water.

1353
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: It's got tremendous patriotic swimsuit him. He does. He looks good,

1354
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Kenny powers Vie to Chris. Yeah,

1355
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 1: he's urged. He said to bring it on, bring it on,

1356
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: dunk him um and then pumpkin headed three Fontana three

1357
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: thirty um. And there you go. That's the that's the

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01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: immediate Montana was bartending when I got here where where

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01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: I don't know one of these little and yet I

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01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: don't see what drinks in front of us. By the way, Also,

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: you told you, you said we'll cheers to you, sir um.

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01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: We were also told that that you would have food

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01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: sorted out for us in short order at to three.

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing happening. Nothing. We are presented by MGM Northfield Park,

1365
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: of course, and among so many others, and the proceeds

1366
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 1: for this event will benefit Motley Crewe Rescue of Volunteer

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01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Foster Rescue Group based right here. You're gonna need to

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: get over there. I keep seeing pups taken out. I

1369
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna go scout it. I'm gonna

1370
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,919
Speaker 1: go scout it see if there's something. Can you imagine

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01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: me just walking into the house with one with no prep.

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: You'd be a hero. I'd be a hero to three

1373
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: a villain to one. Big hero though, that's how that

1374
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: would go in your mind. You would be a hero.

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01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: And then when you realized you didn't have the kennel

1376
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: and all the other essential things. That's what I'm saying,

1377
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: like in a hurry, like trying to track all that

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: stuff down. Plus, I'm committed to the outdoor life of

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01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: the dogs. So that's gonna be Yes, it is happening.

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01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: It's those kids are not going to let you send

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: that dog out at night for itself. He's a dog.

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna thrive out. He's not a cat. He's a dog.

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: He's actually more equipped. No, not anymore, Yeah, no more so. Yeah,

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01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: they're soft. Well, kids gonna want you. Will you say

1385
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: it's your responsible. They gotta sleep in your room? No

1386
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: they're not. I'm not putting dogs in rooms. No, that's

1387
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: what I told him. I said, all right, because we

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: do have in the walk out you could there's some

1389
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: tile that was laid down. I said, you know what

1390
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: you want, the dog can be inside, right, there. I'm

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna put a fence right there that the dog can

1392
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: be right in there. If you guys want to sleep

1393
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: with a dog, then you put your little beds down

1394
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: there and you sleep with the dog down there. But

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: it ain't going up. The tough talk will end. But

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: this is one of those things, like so many things

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01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: in life that sound great and through when you say

1398
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm out loud, and then in practice are impossible to implement. Incredibly,

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: member of grand Parties, I'm going to yeah, I feel

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: like I could help you with that in a hurry

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01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: giving Well, yeah, I just don't can sort that out

1402
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: for you in a matter of um. All right, we'll

1403
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: have a little fun with the with the NBA draft

1404
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: it is tonight, and continue to have fund out here

1405
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: at the esp and Cleveland block Party on the east

1406
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: bank of the flat was Clean Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

1407
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily Live from the ESPN Cleveland Block Party

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: in the East bank of the Flats. It's great to

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: be down here, live to in Cleveland Browns Daily presented

1410
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: by MGM Northfield Park. All sorts of great partners on

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: this and of course all the proceeds from this event

1412
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: will benefit Mutley Crewe Rescue of Volunteer Foster Rescue group

1413
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: based here in town. On on a day like this,

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: like there's some there's some fine boats out here, beautiful.

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01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: What what what is your guys favorite warm day cold

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 1: beer snack, warm day, cold beer, snack? Tacos? What's he

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: got there? Po boy, poor boy? I like. What I

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01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: do like about that is you you have to be

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01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: able to be mobile. I think that's a big part

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: of it. You want to be able to be mobile.

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: The only issue with the taco is you have to

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: be seated. Why you're not walking talk with a taco.

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: It's a taco. Put it in a bag of chips.

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01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: That's a walking nacho. I don't even think that's in

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: the same food groups. Like we're going to the conversation

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: bag of chips. Just put the ground beef in the

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: walking tacos. Fantastic. But I always want a taco, I know,

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01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: which is why I'll never forget. One of the most

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01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: infamous conversations we had is how you were so personally

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: affronted by my notion that I would choose Mexican cuisine

1431
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: as if I was one cuisine for the rest of

1432
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 1: my life, you just couldn't believe it. He was incredulous

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: to you that I would pick it. I always like Mexican,

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01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: there's not I like it at breakfast. I like tacos

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01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: all the time. There's name a beef, everything, chicken, pork,

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: whatever you need. They got it, fish from beans. I

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: don't have to eat that though. Now, I just feel

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: like you would. I feel like that's I feel like

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: the diversity that you could get within the cuisine would

1440
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: run out quicker than you would want potentially, that's all. Yeah,

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,879
Speaker 1: I mean I love it. It's it's a revered cuisine

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01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: in that in my world walking into ever send it,

1443
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: my my, my sent it, send it. It's been resented.

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: The one the only thing I always like whenever I've

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: had tacos with you, which is several times and mostly

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: an indie. Um. I do like how you're we've eaten

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: more food together, not in this city for sure. Well

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01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: that's a fact. I don't know. You said lunch all

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01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: the time back when we had before. I'm talking about like, oh,

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: out to dinner like a meal. Yeah, I don't go

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: out to dinner a real meal. Well, we're gonna have

1452
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: transformative turkey. I'm gonna transformative Turkey. You're gonna come over,

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: get shots up. It's gonna be fun. I'm gonna be

1454
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: like Bootsy for a day. That's what I want to be.

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: Just I'll tell you what. So his so we do

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: the games of twenty one and then we play me

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: and him against the other two. So all he wants

1458
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: is to play around the world. Loves around the world,

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: loves it right. So the other two can't stand it

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: two boring for them and it takes a while. So

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: what his, dude, his deal is is he challenges every miss.

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: No matter where he is, he challenges it. And so

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: like if you miss, you're supposed to you start over.

1464
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: If you miss, unless if you or you like, once

1465
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: you miss, you can stay choose to stay in one

1466
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: of the locations and then that's fine, you'll pick up

1467
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: there when you show next. Or you can challenge it.

1468
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: And if you shoot again, you gotta start back at

1469
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: the beginning. If you miss again, if you miss again,

1470
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 1: you start back at the beginning. So his move is

1471
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: to challenge everything, and what that creates is us rebounding

1472
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: for him forever forever. Yes, So then last night, I

1473
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: finally one we have to get a play in an

1474
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: eight foot rim. You gotta play with the smaller balls.

1475
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: He had to change your everything. So I finally win

1476
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: the thing, and he tries to He tries to act like, well,

1477
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: we gotta play to see you get second. No we don't.

1478
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: In fact, the guy who second furthest long. By the way,

1479
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: do you guys play knockout together? I feel like the

1480
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: knockout would be a fun game. Here's the problem with knockout.

1481
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: Are you doing a knockout? Are you doing knockout with bump?

1482
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: What does that? What do you mean by bump? Knockout

1483
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: with bump? Is you miss your shot? They miss? There's

1484
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: you take your ball and you smoke. No, that is

1485
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: no place in society. That's a yeah like the beer

1486
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: pong where you can smack the ball. Yeah, no, forget it.

1487
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: No pure, it's pure pure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we could

1488
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: do that. I got a great game. Yeah, gets it

1489
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: gets people fired up. I have a problem with that.

1490
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: Gets some tensions, you know. Speaking of the beer pong.

1491
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: Somehow stumble upon this this morning and my other occupation,

1492
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: and we somebody said that we were they were somehow

1493
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 1: stumbled onto drinking games when you were in college and

1494
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: and it just popped into my head. This game that

1495
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: we played, which was called the Moose horn Um or

1496
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: maybe it was Bull Moose, but it was something to

1497
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: do with the moose. And you took an empty ice tray. Okay,

1498
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 1: you took a quarter. Left side one to six was give.

1499
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: Right side one to six was take. Then there was

1500
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: a shot at the end. If you missed any of

1501
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: the thing, then you had to take the shot. Okay.

1502
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: That was the way that it went. If you made

1503
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 1: it in the shot glass, you had to do moose,

1504
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: and the last one to do it had to be

1505
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: the end of the waterfall. Sounds dangerous, very dangerous. I

1506
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: was a hard time, so I was convinced this was

1507
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: only something that happened in Montana. But then I as

1508
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: I was telling the story, there were several who said, no, no,

1509
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 1: we've played this game. I've never never heard of. It's

1510
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: a win, it's a win. I've taken ice cube trays

1511
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: when I was promotions director and line them up down

1512
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: the side, down the middle of a table, and you

1513
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: have teams of four and I filled the ice cube

1514
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: trays with beer, and the person had a straw. Okay,

1515
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 1: each person had a straw. And you had to do

1516
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: your tray. Your side of the tray couldn't leave anything

1517
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: left next person, it was a big relay r This

1518
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: feels your moose game feels more like a credit card

1519
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: roulette situation where you could just end up in a band.

1520
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: So these guys, if you're bad at this, it's a problem. Yeah,

1521
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: the water rail problem. You better get that rhythm. You

1522
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: get it on that. Um. I remember that. I remember that,

1523
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 1: very very vividly. UM. We have the NBA Draft tonight

1524
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: here in town, and you're well, no, I know where

1525
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: we're headed. I know where you're That's it's it's called

1526
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 1: what's called it, big bats, That's where we're headed. The

1527
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,839
Speaker 1: NBA draft, the Calves picking at fourteen. Could a another

1528
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: Akron kid be coming home? Potentially could be a fit.

1529
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: We'll get into that and some of the rumors around

1530
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: the draft coming up next. You listen to Cleve the

1531
01:18:51,000 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily Life from

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Speaker 1: the ESPN Cleveland Black Party in the East Bank of

1533
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: the Flats. Get that dog, he's crucy. Look at that

1534
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: dog right there. Man, that his best life. He sleeps

1535
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: indoors by the way, like this notion that like somehow

1536
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: the dog in my house is not gonna live it's

1537
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: best life out sort outside of some sort of doghouse chili.

1538
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. But you can say it's gonna

1539
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: live its best life outside. I grew up on the Ponderos.

1540
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: We never had a dog in the house. Ever, you

1541
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: say that right now, come January February. His best life

1542
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: is not lived outdoors, And yes it is. He's actually

1543
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: quite comfortable. Comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, dog is short hair. Yeah,

1544
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like He'll be fine. That's where they have.

1545
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: They have fur, they have a coat. It's a whole idea.

1546
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Sometimes when I'm on the sidelines,

1547
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: you think I'm getting Mr Biggles a lot of mighty

1548
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: a lot more than a coat do left for? No,

1549
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: But I had a coat? Was the fur in your

1550
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: mind they have for right's get it. That's why it's there.

1551
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: And that's why huskies and Alaskan malamoots look the way

1552
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: that they do. Right, that's not your run of the

1553
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: middle Ohio dog. You get Hio dog. I don't know.

1554
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: I think a nice boxer, chocolate wild boxers not living

1555
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: its best life outdoors, not in the people. Do one

1556
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: of those things in the garage where he comes from

1557
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 1: inside to out help maybe that type of set up

1558
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: and get the heated garage. He's gonna be with, Bootsie.

1559
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Speaker 1: Give the kids some responsibility your whole life. You're the

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Speaker 1: next purchase. So this is a pretty interesting one. Likes

1578
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: from our buddy Bill Bender of the Sporting News. Worst

1579
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: first round draft mrs in NBA history. First of all,

1580
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 1: I love the NBA draft. It was one of my

1581
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: absolute favorite things ever as a kid. Loved it. It

1582
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: was more it felt like it was a bigger deal

1583
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: then because you're getting ready made like you drafted Shaquille O'Neil.

1584
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: You're getting dude. You're drafted for Alonzo Morning, You're drafted

1585
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: Larry Johnson, you're getting a dude. Um, it's not quite

1586
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: that anymore because you're projecting you had who knows what

1587
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: an eighteen year old is going to turn into over

1588
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: the next you know, three to five years. So it's

1589
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: a little harder um in terms of these that. I

1590
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: like the criteria that he set out. So what was

1591
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: the criteria? You have a chance to vent this. The

1592
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: miss has to be within four picks of the player drafted.

1593
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: It's easy to look at the players franchise missed their

1594
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: way down the board. So somebody that was picked within

1595
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: four picks of the person they actually drafted and players

1596
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: that were drafted and and traded count for the point

1597
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 1: of this exercise. He said so, And also the picksb

1598
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 1: within the first four team picks in the first round,

1599
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: So what is lottery picks? So these are their worst

1600
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: lottery picks ever, and the person that they could have

1601
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: taken was picked within four picks of that spot. Number

1602
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: one I had in the moment, I already disagree with

1603
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: this assessment for the Hawks, though, I don't think that's

1604
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: the worst one. Go read so their worst one is

1605
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: Marvin Williams over Chris Paul. I remember this one vividly,

1606
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: absolutely vivid. Marvin Williamson considered can't miss coming out of Carolina.

1607
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: He was pretty mercurial though. He wasn't even like the

1608
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: dude on that team. They were really good. That was like,

1609
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: I think that was the Shawn May team, Sean May,

1610
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: Richard mccainst team, Like he was kind of like their

1611
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: fourth option. Like he wasn't even the dude on that team.

1612
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: Are you gonna say Luca? No, because asked me. Within

1613
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: four picks was Luca? Within four they traded for each other.

1614
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: They traded, Yeah, so that would be one. No, I

1615
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: mean that worked out for that's I said, read the

1616
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: first sentence they drafted John Contact had a Chris Mullen

1617
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: or Karl Malone like, that's bigger to me than Marvin

1618
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: Williams or Chris Paul. Yeah. I think he's just going

1619
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: back and realizing not many people remembered that. But yes,

1620
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: if you read the first sentence, would do you remember

1621
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: Michael Smith or Tim Hardaway for the Celtics. I don't,

1622
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: but I remember Tim Hardaway quite well, quite well the Nets.

1623
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 1: He's got Dennis Hopson over Scottie Pippen. I'm not gonna

1624
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: crush him. That hop was an absolute dude at Ohio

1625
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: State and Pippen played at Central Ohio States all time

1626
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: leaving he was a dude. Um the Hornets again, I'll

1627
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: quibble with with he says the trading of Kobe Bryant.

1628
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: Kobe was not gonna play there, so that that was

1629
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: just not that things never go Yeah. Um, the Bulls

1630
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: trading the Marcus Aldridge in two thousand and six, I

1631
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: would say drafting they took Eddie Curry and Tyson Chandler

1632
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: like both in the top three. Yeah, one year the

1633
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 1: Bulls did. Um Anthony Bennett. Can you believe that Anthony

1634
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: Bennett was the number one. Victor Oladipo was their best option.

1635
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: But he still would have been a pretty it would

1636
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: have been a good player on this team. Who was

1637
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: who's in that draft? Like there's gotta be a dude

1638
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: in this Yeah, but that's like it. Nobody knew it,

1639
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: but he knew it, and that was he was picked.

1640
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: What but nobody there wasn't anybody who had ever seen

1641
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Bennett play when they picked him number They could

1642
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: have picked the honest Yeah, and he fizzled out so quickly. Yeah,

1643
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: pretty good drop in there. Danny Perkins over Sam Perkins

1644
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: over Barkley for the MAVs. Yes, but like Perkins, I

1645
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 1: mean regarded as I can't miss, yes the Nuggets with

1646
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: Rape La France over Vince Carter that I remember that,

1647
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: like I watched a lot of cancers cos. Yeah, alright,

1648
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: was that was going to be this is a really

1649
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: bad one. Yeah, yeah, that's Darko over Carmelo Warriors. Jo Smith.

1650
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: Now you can't do that either, because Garnett was the

1651
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: first high school kid. He was the first one since

1652
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: like Moses Malone, to come from straight from high school

1653
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: to the NBA. There were a lot of questions about Garnett.

1654
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: It was viewed as an incredible risk for the Timberweld.

1655
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: Jose Smith was considered that number one dude. He was

1656
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: the a CEC player of the year in a in

1657
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 1: a that was the stackhouse for Sheed Wallace Carolina teams,

1658
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: and he was the a CEC player of the year.

1659
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Didn't take who knows Marcus Morris over Kauai Leonard for

1660
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: the Rockets. Umka, I wasn't there something injury thing with him,

1661
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: like he had didn't have a ligament or something his knee.

1662
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: Um Indiana Pacers Ricky Roby over Larry Bird. That's pretty unbelievable,

1663
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: But I believe this this allowed for you. This was

1664
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,440
Speaker 1: the time Red hour Back took Bird before he was eligible.

1665
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: He took him going into his senior year at Indiana State,

1666
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: if memory serves. And so this was a loophole that

1667
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Red Hourback. Of course, gott Pacers could have taken him

1668
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: with the number one picking seventy eight. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: that's exactly the Celtics took him with the sixth pick. Yeah. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's incredible. Uh. Danny Ferry over Glenn Rice for the Clippers.

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01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: Ferry was so good coming out of Duke Glenn Rice

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01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: was good too, But Danny Ferry, Well, there's a bigger

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01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: one here. At the Lakers. Kenny car over Bernard King.

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01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: They took Alonzo Ball over Jayson Tatum. That's a huge Well,

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Speaker 1: I go back to the Clippers for a second. They

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01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: took Michael Olowa Candy ahead of Carter Nowitzki and Paul Pierce. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Michael Olowa Candy at Pacific. Remember that feels like a

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: shamed The beat was a reach in the moment too.

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01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: When the Grizzlies took him number one, Arizona State was

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01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: not like it was. It would have been hard to

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: project that he would go on to be the James

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01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: Harden that he is in the In the NFL Miami

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01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Heat basilely over Kevin Love. Okay, Beasley was pretty well

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Speaker 1: regarded though. They thought this is a bad one for

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01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: the Bucks, trading Vitsky to Dallas. They took a tractor trailer. Yeah,

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01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: that didn't. Buck's also passed. This is one of the

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: all times. Also passed on Paul Pierre. This sext one

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01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: is one of the worst. Minnesota timber rols Johnny Flynn

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: over Steph Curry. They took they took Rubio and Flynn.

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01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 1: They went on two point guards and not one of

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01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: them was at Steph Curry. Yeah, not great, not great.

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Hill over to Rosen. Yeah, we're up against him,

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: we are anyway. I mean the biggest who do you

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01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: want trails Blazer Sam Bowie over Michael That's pretty good. Yeah,

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01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: that's the biggest one. Luca was That was brutal for

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01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 1: the Kings. Can you imagine if they had Luca and

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01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Dearon fox Hold on a sex team. The Jazz had

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01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: Dominique Wilkins. I didn't realize Utah made the right pick

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: taking Wilkins. He wasn't happy with the selection. Utah cave

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01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: by trading and for pactions include John Drew and Freeman Williams.

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01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: Imagine if Utak could have Vince Wilkinson, help was on

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: his way. They got John Stockton and eighty four Carl

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01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: Malone in eighty five, they could have had Wilkins, Stockton

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01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: and the mail Man. That would have been a squad.

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01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: That would have been an absolute squad. All right, Calves

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01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: picking tonight at fourteen, I hope it's Malachi brand I'm

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 1: the kid from svs M. That would be pretty sweet.

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01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: So much more to come. You listen to Cleve Brown's

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Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been a it's been a fun afternoon,

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01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: great perfect day for it out here. All sorts of

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Speaker 1: fun activities, team mascot, slider, whammer, chops, all in the mix,

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Speaker 1: food beer, Seltzer's liquor for sale, field goal, kicking food trucks,

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Speaker 1: first five persistipents on that and of course everything here

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Speaker 1: going for a good cause. Pumpkinhead of the dunk tank

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Speaker 1: that's happening allegedly. Yeah, well it'll benefit Mutley Crew of

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01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: Volunteer Foster Rescue Group based here in Cleveland. So get

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Speaker 1: out here. Is still plenty of time. There he is there,

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Speaker 1: he is, in fact, ready to go. I was wondering

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have the hat because I thought that

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Speaker 1: could get dicey. Could that could get very ticy? But

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Speaker 1: no dice, no dice. Uh have a This is awesome

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Speaker 1: for a great cause and great to see so many

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Speaker 1: people out there. It's been fun to be out here

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Speaker 1: all afternoon and we will continue to be throughout the evening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, everybody. The next level

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