1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: The Sean Ryan effect is real, and the effect it 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: had on me was significant. Today I'm the David Rutherford Show. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, everybody. David Rutherford here coming off 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: of what can only be construed as profound And I 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people hate that that term, but 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: that's what it was. That's what it is. I'm still 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: in the midst of it, and it's not something that 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: you go through and you you talk about that those 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: types of things that I shared on his show and 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: then the response that comes from it is overwhelming, to 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: say the least. So today, what I, Jordy and I 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: thought might be interesting for everybody is is to just 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: talk about the lead up to it, the experience of 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: going on it on his show, and then you know, 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the feelings and kind of the ability to look back 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: on on on what it was like and and you 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: know what's come out of it. I mean, uh, to 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: sit in that chair for seven plus hours was was 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: was definitely an ultra marathon, so to speak, of emotions 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: and you know, come to think of it, I mean, 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: Jordy and I were laughing. Uh. You know, if you 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: if you look at the timeline we you know, we 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: got all the way my childhood in college and uh, 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the first part of the teams, you know, post nine 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: to eleven that that, you know, the challenging combat deployment. 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of blackwater, definitely some of 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: my time at the Central Intelligence Agency. Uh. And then 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely my my beautiful bride and and my wife, Johnna, 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: and and our family and our children. But you know, 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: there was kind of kind of wild and Jordy and 31 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Johnna both brought this up afterwards, they're like, you know, 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: damn man, you you essentially didn't even talk about winning 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: a world series and working with all the teams and 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: all the different companies you've worked with and experiences you've 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: had with athletes and other people you've mentored, and and 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: you know that that whole thing didn't even come out. 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: So you know, I I I But again you have 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: to keep for me, it's always just about keeping in context, uh, 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: what it was all about. And that was the experience 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: of being with my best friend who has become one 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: of the top you know, podcaster or news show whatever 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: you want to say in the entire world. And then 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: his graciousness and his uh desire to want to give 44 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: me the opportunity in his brand new unbelievable studio. That 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: really is I've never seen anything like I'm you know, 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: it's got to be one of the top in the 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: entire industry no matter where you go, and whether it's 48 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: New York or LA. You know this this, you know, 49 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll he and his crew will take the 50 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Pepsi challenge against anybody. And and I'm sure you're gonna 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: hear a lot more people who come out of that 52 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: place and and and really express the just the magnificence 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: of it, you know, and in the understated presence of 54 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: it as well too, is just unbelievable. It's really about, 55 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, two best friends and being on this journey 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: for a long time together and and and the space 57 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: that Sean as he does you know, for so many people. 58 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: It's funny. For years I joked and I called him, 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Oprah for operators. And next thing, you know, 60 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm on the proverbial couch or the great 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: and infamous leather chair. And in that and and and 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: delivering you know, my most challenged gene and deepest uh 63 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: experiences and emotions in my life, and I'm doing so 64 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: in such a powerful way that he just really is Uh. 65 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: He just creates that space and there for to do 66 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: it and to feel supported and loved and comforted, uh 67 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: in a way that I simply have never experienced or 68 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: felt before. So I you know, when if you're processing 69 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: it at that that level, it's it. It really was 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: exciting now, you know, one of the one of the 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: interesting things. And you know, people don't understand really how 72 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: it works, but you know they they are constantly driving, 73 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: uh to find the most significant stories or people in 74 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: their live story, their life stories that they can find. 75 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: And that's from operators to politicians to conspiracy theory is 76 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: to people in in the religious world and everything in between, 77 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: and and so uh back uh, I want to say 78 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: it was jeez, I forget when it was. It was 79 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: around I think back in spring break or sometime around 80 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: around then, wasn't it, JORDI, Yeah, it was spring, Yeah, 81 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: it was. It was it was like late spring. I 82 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: remember I was down in in Miami. We took a little, 83 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: you know, kind of staycation thing down in Miami with 84 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: me and and and the girls and and uh we 85 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: were in a hotel and he gave me a call 86 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: and you know, it's always great getting those calls because 87 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: we have just, uh, you know, the greatest conversations about 88 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: what's going on in our lives and the complexities and 89 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: helping each other. 90 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: And he's like, you just thought it was a phone call. 91 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just yeah, I was just like, all right, 92 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: let's just you know, hang out and shoot the ship. 93 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: And and you know, towards the middle of it, he's like, hey, listen, uh, 94 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: we were thinking about it in the team and we 95 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: just would really love for you to be the first 96 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: guest in the new studio. And and I remember it 97 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: hit me like a ton of bricks, because you know, 98 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of a lot of back and 99 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: forth over the years and uh wish Sean and him 100 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: asking me to come on, and and for many, many, 101 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: many many years, I just I felt like I One, 102 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: I was honored obviously. Two, I didn't want to go 103 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: on and and and you know, I felt like I 104 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: didn't have much to say initially, you know, I didn't 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: have a story that was comparative to some of the 106 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: other you know titans that he's having on there. I mean, Eddie, 107 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: the Blackwater guys, DJ, you know, all of these Jason Redman. 108 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean all of these amazing human beings that I 109 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: really admire and and really respect at a high level. 110 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: And and so I always kind of felt like, man, 111 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't rate to be on your show, first off. 112 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Second of off, I never wanted him to think, well, 113 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: let me come on your show so I can promote 114 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: this thing or that thing or whatever. And you know, 115 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: because as you can all imagine, he is inundated around 116 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: the clock with people wanting something from him, wanting him to, 117 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, provide them with this opportunity or launch them 118 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: or go into business with them, or for him to 119 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: post something about them. And it's it's really, you know, 120 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: it's for anybody that that hasn't ever been in that 121 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: that level of fame or that level of importance, or 122 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: that level of responsibility, if you will, that's a profound 123 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: burden to carry on your shoulders. And I always just 124 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: loved the fact that I could be supportive to him 125 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: and without that just just to be the guy for 126 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: him to call and just to be supportive and if 127 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: he wanted my advice, I'd give my advice. And if 128 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to just talk about nothing, which we often do, uh, 129 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: but we we certainly talk a lot about what drives 130 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: us nuts every day in the world, as you can imagine, 131 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be that friend for him. 132 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I didn't want him ever to think I wanted anything 133 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: from him. And so when when he asked me that, 134 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, to be the first guest, it was overwhelming. 135 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean definitely, the emotions were flooding me and just 136 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: felt just just beyond honor to do that. And and 137 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: so then it starts going, and you you know, it's like, 138 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: all right, you know, I think I called I think 139 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: I called you Georady right afterwards and was like, hey man, 140 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, guess what and all right, what do we 141 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: need to do to prepare for this? 142 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: And can I just say real quick, first of all, 143 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: I think just the fact I think that whole thing 144 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: says a lot about who Sean is, how he runs 145 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: his podcast and his team and everything. Because you know, 146 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: no offense to you or him or anybody, but he 147 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: could have had the first guest in his brand new, 148 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: beautiful studio be anybody. 149 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: It could have been some partnership with the big. 150 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: Advertiser to really try to help out some deal they've got. 151 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: It could have been some guests like the president could 152 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: have gotten Donald Trump on there just you know, imagine 153 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: the views on that thing, right, But he was able 154 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: to despite being probably inundated with requests and even in 155 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: his own brain like what should I do? 156 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: What should I do? 157 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: He's like, know what, I'm going to forget all that 158 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: I want my best friend to be on and that 159 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: just that kind of level of genuine, genuineness and artistic approach. 160 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: You can feel it throughout everything that he does. That 161 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: was kind of min pression and that just just asking 162 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: you his best friend to be on the first episode 163 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: of the New Studio, I think just kind of shows 164 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: the whole picture in a way. 165 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you acknowledging that. You know, I mean 166 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: from from the first you know time that I ever 167 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: met Sean, you know, he always just had that different approach, 168 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: that little, you know, that thing in his eye that 169 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: was different. And then as you know, as we reconnected 170 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: at the agency and then reconnected in Boca, and then 171 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, and then really kind of developed the friendship 172 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: when we were in the midst of our really most 173 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,479 Speaker 1: you know, difficult times, what he was going through leaving contract, 174 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: what I was going through through my divorce, we just 175 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: bonded in a way that it became so much deeper 176 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: than even what you know, we had had carrying a 177 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: gun next to each other, and that's pretty deep, and 178 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: it just it just intensified. And I remember, you know, 179 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: there was a story where you know, he was really 180 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: doing a lot of training and teaching and he you know, 181 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: he had this this dream, you know that he shared 182 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: with me to really build something unique, a place for 183 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: for us and our generation. And he wasn't sure what 184 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: it was going to be. Whether it was going to 185 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: be like a modern day American Legion or VFW, or 186 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: it was going to be you know, a space that 187 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: people could come and share, and he wasn't really sure. 188 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: And then it was really uh you know when he 189 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, I'm going to start you know, 190 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: doing videos and stuff, and that you know, that goes 191 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: back to the earliest days when uh the frod Melvern 192 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: forget he was teaching a course. He asked me to 193 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: come up and just you know, have fun with these guys. 194 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: And at the end of it, they were like, you 195 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: two needed you know, competitive challenge together, and so we 196 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: did this, you know, sprint one hundred meters Presidente Walking 197 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, sitting steel knocked out and then one long 198 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: like twenty five meter head shot, and man, I think 199 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: I went first and kind of hilarious, you know, me 200 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: limping down the hundred meters. That did well in all 201 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: the shooting. And then and then he goes and he 202 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: as he comes into the l Presidente, he does this 203 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: thing called the ninja slide, right, and he ninja slides 204 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: in and he like slides pops up pink pink goes 205 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: and he and he had a mag mag change problem 206 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: and kind of was shaking it, pulled it and then 207 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: finishes and walked through and and uh and I beat 208 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: him by just like a second or two. But it was, 209 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, if he had not had the mag stick, 210 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, and he'd been just doing a whole course 211 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: with his pistol, so obviously had some carbon build up. 212 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: And but I was able to be like, yeah, I won, 213 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: you know. 214 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: And you guys had a little bit of a shooting 215 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: friendly competition at the at the podcast. 216 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: You had quite the shot at one point. 217 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was. That was the luckiest shot 218 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I've ever made in my life, you know, offhand, single hand, 219 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: one hundred meters. I don't think I've ever made that shot, 220 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think I'll ever make that shot again. 221 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: So it was the side so for the people listening. 222 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: So they went out and they were shooting this new 223 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: gun that Sean gifted. David and a lot of us 224 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: were inside looking out these big glass doors out to 225 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: this this where they were shooting, and they were going. 226 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: You could see they're doing, you know, just normal shots, 227 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: and then they're switching hands, trying to do one hand 228 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: and then we see him from the inside like go 229 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: on their off hand shot, so you know, Sean tries 230 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: his with his right hand no sorry, with his left hand, 231 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: one hand, and then I don't even think he hits it. 232 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: He takes like five shots or something like that, and 233 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: then we just see David like okay, I'll try and 234 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: grabs his right hand one arm and goes ping on 235 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: that deal and everybody is I was just like, no 236 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,119 Speaker 2: freaking way, dude, that's pretty. 237 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: It's best because I'm in my shirt and tie right 238 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: without my suit code on. If I had had the 239 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: suit code on, it would have been the absolute perfect 240 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: right it had been that John Wick stuff, David Rutherford, 241 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: my best friend, Welcome to the show, Sean, thank you 242 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: for having me. It's an honor to be here. What's Up? Team? 243 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: I recently had the incredible honor of joining my best 244 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: friend Sean Ryan on his show, and as a token 245 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: of my appreciation for him and his audience, I want 246 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: to do something special for you. 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Who Yah, and God's 266 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: been Yeah, I was, it's anyway, so you know, and 267 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: then we you know, we went on and did a 268 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: bunch of great video and he just because there was 269 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: something really creative about Sean that just is separated him 270 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: from I think everybody else, and is what's really allowed 271 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: him to emerge is to you know, his his deliverable 272 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: is so different, so polished, so creative, so precise, so 273 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: immaculate in his delivery. And that's the visual aspect much 274 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: less his his his the the the commonality, that's not 275 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: the right word, but he asked the questions that everybody's 276 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: thinking in their mind. And you know, he he you know, 277 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: he said that one time on Tucker and and he 278 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, you know, people will 279 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: say things and I'm not sure what they mean, and 280 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I'll be like, well what does that mean? And and 281 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: he goes, you know, I never wanted to be or 282 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: pretend something to be I'm not, and that's who he is. 283 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: And he always kind of was unique in his approach. 284 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: So I remember we had him on Team Never Quit 285 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: towards the end when I was out there, and it 286 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: was cool because we we had had Rob on and 287 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: then Sean on the next day, and Sean had asked, Hey, 288 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: can I bring a film crew out? And I was like, absolutely, 289 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: we'd love that for sure. And so he brings this 290 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: film crew out, he films the whole thing, and then 291 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: he comes up with the idea, Hey, let's do this. 292 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: You know, this this what you McCall it, this fireside chat, 293 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: which was to me, the most brilliant thing we could 294 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: have ever done. And you know, we went out and 295 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, Marcus's backyard and we had this great fire 296 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: pit and we just sat around and told little bud 297 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: stories and it was me, Marcus, Rob, Sean the Wizard 298 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: and me just laughing and telling and that thing just 299 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: blew up. And I mean, I don't even know how 300 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: many views it had on it, but it was just 301 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: team guys being team guys and telling stories and just 302 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: there was no ego and no nothing, and it was 303 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: just fun. And that what he had always envisioned was was, 304 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, just if you can get a team guy, 305 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, in the right spot and in the right moment, 306 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: and you know, just be funny and be light and 307 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: then also you know every now and then pulling a 308 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: good story. That was that's the secret sauce. And I 309 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: remember we also did this hilarious funny video where you know, 310 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Marcus is one of his favorite things is to drive 311 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: around on his mower. That's his piece. That's where he finds, 312 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, his relaxation on his property. And we made 313 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: a funny video like we were running from m and 314 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to mow us down. We did one coming 315 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: out of the water and then another chat there and 316 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: he's just really creative and in all of those things, 317 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: I just knew, like, man, he approaches it differently. And 318 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: then finally he just started doing the show in nineteen 319 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: on Christmas, we released that first show with just him 320 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: and Katie and right from the get going and again 321 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: he did this first show in his addict of his home, 322 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: and I just that was the moment where I was like, 323 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: holy shit, there's something really unique that you're going to deliver. 324 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: And then he just kept going and going and I remember, 325 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's always hard to get started in this 326 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: business because again, you know, at that time, it had 327 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: really you know, I started in twenty thirteen. My first 328 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: show was Navy Seal Radio, and there was nobody doing it. 329 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean there was I think Mark Devine was doing 330 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: something with it, but that was it. There was nothing else. 331 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: And then by you know, sixteen, when we started T ANDQ, 332 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: it was picking up. More guys were doing more things, 333 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: and by nineteen the whole it was saturated with people 334 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: doing it. But he came out of the masses with 335 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: this really beautiful, thoughtful space to deliver are the most 336 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: intense experiences that that people could have and and really 337 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: the secret sauce are are the is the humanization of 338 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: the of elite guys, elite warriors, and their ability to 339 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: put into perspective all of the normal emotions that everybody 340 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: has is in all their times. And he was able 341 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: to encapsulate that in that very in that perfect space 342 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: that he built, and it's been overwhelming to watch. I remember, 343 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: you know, two years ago, uh, in my firm, you know, 344 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: I worked for a large asset management firm my day job, 345 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: and and I'm like, all the way on the other 346 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: side of country, and you know it is around a 347 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: bunch of the wholesalers, all great young guys, just getting 348 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: after it, and I remember them, you know, being like, 349 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: hey man, you know I just watched this episode on 350 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: this guy the Sean Ryan Show. Do you know who 351 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: he is? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know him 352 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: pretty good. And then they're like, get out of here. 353 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, oh my god, this 354 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: is humongous, Like it's massive. Yeah. 355 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: Can tell that he's kept that artistic vision as the 356 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: root and the north star of everything that he does. 357 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like he had it from the 358 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: very beginning and even up to the episode that you 359 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: just did with him. You could just tell he really 360 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: cares about his artistic vision of it and just having 361 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: the most honest, genuine conversation he can possibly have, and 362 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: it kind of seems like he doesn't care about anything else, 363 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: Like maybe he's just he's just stubborn enough where he's like, Nope, 364 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna make the best thing that I can even 365 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: possibly fathom and what my vision is and just go 366 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: for the maximumly you know, honest interview as possible, and 367 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: that's gonna be what it is, we'll see what happens. 368 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: Like that's what he cares about, and that's it. 369 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: That's all he's been it, That's who he is. Like 370 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: he's the most meticulous, detail oriented guy almost I've ever 371 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: met in my life, in particular in this creative aspect 372 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: of it too, which is very unique. You know, I 373 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of times team guys or or operators, 374 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: however you want to describe as you know, they they 375 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: there's a they're they're incredibly creative in their tactical sense 376 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: and their abilities. But when it comes to this artistic 377 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: endeavor and there's artistic nature, I think it's unfulfilled and 378 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: a lot That's why I love to see former operators 379 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: move into their their art space or their they're deliverable. 380 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: My friend Derek Natalini becoming a musician. You know, there's 381 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: other guys, uh, Leo Jenkins, was it Leo Jacob? I 382 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: forget Leo, I forget what his name, but he writes 383 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of books and poetry. He's amazing. You know. 384 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: You see these guys who make furniture, triedent woodworks. You 385 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: see these people out there and they're they're really taking 386 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: these experiences and they're converting them into a vision you said, 387 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: like this artistic vision for me the whole Like the 388 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: magnitude of this process getting ready and coming up to 389 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: this show really, you know, became like the power of it. 390 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Because I remember when he was like, hey, dude, I'm 391 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: gonna I think I'm gonna build my own studio. And 392 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: I was like, awesome, you know, and you think that, 393 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: and You're like, all right, what's it going to be? 394 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: And and then I went up for fourth of July 395 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: to spend time with them, our family, their family and 396 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: some others, and and that the night before we got 397 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: to go see the studio for the first time. And 398 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: I remember because he had he'd driven me out there 399 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: when he purchased the land for it, and I was 400 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: just like, you know, you're and he's kind of telling 401 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: me the vision and I'm I'm I'm pretty good at 402 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: being able to imagine anything, you know, as an artist myself. 403 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm all about the vision. It's you know, and what 404 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: can it can become. And he's like this, and I'm like, yeah, 405 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: I see it, I see it, you know, but you can't. 406 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, first off, don't ever try and get in 407 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: Sean's mind, because it's it's a unique place to be. 408 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, certainly, it's it's as complex as 409 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: anything anybody I've ever met. And I think that's another 410 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: real amazing thing about my friendship with him, is that, 411 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, he has such a unique approach to how 412 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: he looks at the world, and that's what it's always. 413 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm never I'm never at a space where I'm like, oh, 414 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I know what he's thinking or I know this. He's 415 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: always surprising me. And that's a that's a really healthy 416 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: place to be when you're when you're you know you're 417 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: that close with somebody, is that they're always emerging and 418 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: developing and growing. And that's the type of people you 419 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: want to have in your life, right. You don't want 420 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: to be with people that are stagnant, that are complacent 421 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: or not willing to take a risk in terms of 422 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: developing a dream. And that's something that I've always sought 423 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: out in friendships. I want to be around people who 424 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: really have a quest to explore their potential and their capability. 425 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: And Shawn's one of those guys. And so when we 426 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: showed up at this thing, and it was funny because 427 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: Katie myself and Johnna. You went in and we're sitting 428 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: outside and he's flipping all the lights on, and then 429 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: we go in and it's just magnificent. This this place 430 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: is it's first off, it's understated. It's not like you 431 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: don't drive in and you're not like like, it's not 432 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: in your face grandiose. 433 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: It's golding building like. 434 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, a giant V red V out front, you know, 435 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: and like a billboard, you know, standing seven hundred feet 436 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: above or it's nothing like that. It's completely subdued. You'd 437 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: never notice it was even there. And that's the point 438 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: of him. That's his style and Katie's style. And you 439 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: walk in and it's just gorgeous. It's absolutely magnificent. Everything 440 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: is just beautifully done, very subdued, very clean. You know, 441 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: they're you know, they they love clean lines, they love 442 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: they're not flashy, they're none of that. It's just everything 443 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: creates that very chill, very precise experience. And so we 444 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: went in and then we went downstairs and showed me 445 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: all the engineering and you know, the amazing thing about 446 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: the engineering room is, you know, and this gets to 447 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: the contact of a team. And I'll talk about the 448 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: team just one second. And he had asked his main engineers, 449 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: you know, if you whatever your office could look like, 450 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: what would it look like? And they sent him a 451 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: picture and he built that for them, right, And that 452 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: that that's who he is, and that's what the people 453 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: who work with him and the people he cares about. 454 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: That's how he takes care of the people in his life. 455 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: It's it's it's really beautiful. That's how he takes care 456 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: of me in that context. And so we went through it, 457 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: and then I got to go into the studio where 458 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: it was undone, not anything like you know, everything was 459 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: empty when as what you just saw on the show, 460 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: and and you could just feel it. It just felt 461 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: the the magnificence of it, you know, and that and 462 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: not magnificence in terms of uh, like I said, it's 463 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: it's not not the furniture. No, No, it's the space. No, 464 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: it's the space. It's it's it's it's the space that 465 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: it's created that naturally came together with with what he built, 466 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: what he created, and and it's like, oh my god. 467 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: Well then you're in there and now this sudden you're like, 468 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: holy shit, I'm going to come into this space and 469 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to sit down and I'm going to talk 470 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: about the most difficult things in my life. And and 471 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: that's when the nerves started really hitting, for sure, and 472 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: you just wanna so really we started really thinking about, 473 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: oh my god, all right, how are we going to 474 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: do this? What's the timeline, what are the things? And 475 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: we really started John and I started doing the deep 476 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: dive into all right, what's poignant? What are the messages? 477 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: You know, what are the stories I want to tell? 478 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: And and what's you do you do if you wanna, 479 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: if you want to, because you know, here it is 480 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: is someone achieves a dream or component of the dream 481 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and because of their hard work and I mean Sean lives, eats, sleeps, 482 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: breathes the Sean Ryan Show, and that's the why he's 483 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: so successful. I call it a focused obsession. You know, 484 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: regular obsessions are detrimental in nature. It's not how you 485 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: want to live. I mean, an obsession can be, you know, 486 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: really detrimental. And I'm not saying that a focused obsession can't. 487 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: But there's a more genuine positive influence or intentness or 488 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: that's right, thank you. There's a purpose behind a focused obsession. 489 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: And I actually teach a little class about that and 490 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get a course up in the next six 491 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: to eight months about focused obsession. And so you're seeing 492 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: this all come to fruition, this timeline that I've been 493 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: with him and watched the growth and felt it and 494 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: talked to him through the whole thing, and now all 495 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: right here, this is what it is. This is the 496 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: result of the effort I have put forth, and I 497 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: want you to be in there with me on the 498 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: first one, almost christen it if you will, And man 499 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: like I felt a duty to make sure that the 500 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: analysis of my life was not only you know, going 501 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: to be sincere and genuine and the delivery, but also 502 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: that there would be a poignant message that hopefully could 503 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: help just one person. You know, Jordi and I think 504 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 1: about this on a regular basis. We think, you know, 505 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: if there's just one person, one person that listens to 506 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, our show, that listens to my story on 507 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Sean's show, listens to my videos, or takes a course 508 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: or reads the book, if there's just one person that 509 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: has positively impact, then then we're we're good. And that's 510 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: what I like. 511 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: The way you said it even better, you would say 512 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: this to me all the time you'd say just one soul. 513 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's even better. 514 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: It is well, I mean this, you always are worried 515 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: about talking to your audience and getting a little bit 516 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: too metaphysical or theological or whatever, and so thank you brother. 517 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: It is about the soul, right, the whole thing is 518 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: about our soul. And when you go into a space 519 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: where you're willing to bear your soul, you know, in 520 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: the context of your best friend his dream coming true 521 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: through his hard work, like, it's a powerful, powerful experience. 522 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: The other component that really made the massive difference for me, 523 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: and and John and Jordi. We all were invited up 524 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: to go to this thing. It made a huge, huge 525 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: It was so important to have John and Jordy there 526 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: with me. I can't even begin to tell you the 527 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: what you all don't see is the magnitude of work 528 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: that they put in. Not only do they put into, 529 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, supporting me, but what Jeordi does with the show, 530 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: what Jordy does with our marketing. With Jordy, I mean, 531 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: he does it all himself. He is he is a 532 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: master at what he does. And we could not do this. 533 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't even do this if I wanted to in 534 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: the way that you're able to experience what we're trying 535 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: to do for you. It's Jordy is the the machine 536 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: behind that. And then obviously my beautiful wife is the 537 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: heartbeat behind it. And but she's also in there writing curriculum, 538 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, correcting curriculum, managing that uh and starting emails, 539 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: responding to customer service. We are, you know, a small 540 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: unit right now, and we're just we're a family. And 541 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: so what you know what I've always heard from day one, 542 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: the first person that you know that ever worked with 543 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Sean and all the way, especially up to where he 544 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: is now, this is my family. These are the people 545 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: that I care most about because this is my life. 546 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: You can feel that in their team. 547 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean I from the first time I 548 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: met his CEOO and his head producer and how they 549 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: welcomed me, and how they greeted me, and how wonderful 550 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: they were when I met them over fourth of July 551 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: and their families. These are solid human beings, I mean, 552 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: really amazing, incredible human beings. And what's nuts is you know, 553 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: his producer Jeremy was actually roommates with another good team guy, 554 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: Buddy Mine Pete Scobell at the Academy and you know, 555 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: just to hear that connection was another weird connection that 556 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: you know in our lives. And Pete is one of 557 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: the best people I've I've ever known and just an 558 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: amazing human being. And you know, his son is one 559 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: of the biggest child actors in the world right now, 560 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: and you know, to see and talk to him about 561 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: coaching him and the inspiration that Pete is and you know, 562 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: he's a beautiful artist himself. There's another one of those 563 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: artists you know in terms of his his music and 564 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: if you ever get an opportunity to go check out 565 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Pete Scobell and his music, he's just he's so talented 566 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: and so amazing. And then fast forward on the day. 567 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, we we come in a day early. We 568 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: had this wonderful time the day before, and then we 569 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: show up the day of and you know, they come 570 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: out the front door and they're there to greet me, 571 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: and Sean's assistant and and and Jeremy, and then I 572 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: start meeting everybody who's on the team, and you know, 573 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether or not they want me to 574 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: say their names or not, probably not, but uh, these 575 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: are I mean, it's you know, it'd be too cliche 576 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: to say a well oiled machine. I mean, these are 577 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: people who are emotionally invested in what they do, you know, 578 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: and the stories of each one of them, and how 579 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: graceful and how gracious they were to all three of us, 580 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: and in particular for me, I mean, you know, I 581 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: mean obviously the nerves. You know, you can cut the 582 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: tension in my mind with a you know, with a 583 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: my blade because of the nerves of like, oh my god, 584 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: now's the time, Now I'm going on, now I'm doing it. 585 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: We're here now. And they couldn't have been better, from 586 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, the gentleman who manages their Patreon, to their 587 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: main social guy and there, to the guy who does 588 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: their clips and their videos and manages that, to their 589 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: engineers and to his assistant, and obviously to you know, 590 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: to Eric and Jeremy, and everybody was just I mean, Jordy, 591 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: I feel like every it was such they were so 592 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: welcoming and they were so but there was a professional 593 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: I think, yes, they were all excited that it was 594 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: me and we of how close our relationship, but I 595 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: think this is the way they are, no matter what 596 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: what's up. Team. I've been writing for over forty years. Finally, 597 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: I've decided to bring to life a character that has 598 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: been on my heart since my experiences of carrying a 599 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: gun for a living. If you recently watched my episode 600 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: with my best friend on his show, The Sean Ryan Show, 601 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: you heard some of my real world experiences that shape 602 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: this character and the story of The Poet Warrior. Can 603 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: a poet's soul survive the crucible of war? The Poet 604 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Warrior follows Adam Ferguson, a reclusive teenage artist haunted by 605 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: his father's early death, as he transforms into a battle 606 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: scarred Navy seal. Through the chaos of combat in the 607 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: shadow of nine to eleven, Adam grapples with the raw 608 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: truth of mortality. His journey is a searing odyssey of heartbreak, failure, 609 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: and the relentless search for identity amidst the ruins of 610 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: lost loved ones, set against the turbulent dawn of the 611 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: global War on Terror. This is a story of a 612 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: young man torn between his poetic heart and the hard 613 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: and warrior he's become. If this sounds like a story 614 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: that might pull you in, please visit my website at 615 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: David Rutherford dot com or click the link in the 616 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: description below and if you pre order now, your signed 617 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: copy will be delivered before the holidays. Thank you very 618 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: much and godspeed. 619 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: Well you can tell that Shawn's vision and his passion 620 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: for what he does, because first of all, I just 621 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 2: say it one more time. I can't understand it enough. 622 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: And it's like you can tell Sean, his entire mind 623 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: is just on, let me, how can we make the 624 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: most beautiful and best and most honest conversation possible. Like 625 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 2: that's his entire mind, not about you know, the little 626 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: stuff or the business around it, or the building or 627 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 2: the wires or the micro Like he's just so focused 628 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 2: on the best artistic product possible to come out of this, right, 629 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: and that bleeds into his team because you imagine, like 630 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, you go into some mainstream news studio 631 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: they have a guest on that's just another number going 632 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: through the factory, right, like, just get him in, get 633 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: the mic on, do the questions, get him out. Right, 634 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: it's just like a well it's a well lowled machine, 635 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 2: but with kind of no soul to it. 636 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: Right. 637 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: But these guys they brought you in and it was 638 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: it kind of felt like we were going over to 639 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 2: visit him, like they invited us over to their house. 640 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: That kind of was the feeling that you had. And 641 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: then the professionalism was unmatched. I mean, the people kept 642 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: asking me, you know, how was it? What you think 643 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: all these things? And I've been producing podcasts and around 644 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: that world for a long time now, and I just 645 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: kept saying the word it's incomparable. 646 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: There's not really another. 647 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: Thing you can say, oh, yeah, his show and his 648 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: team instead of like it's kind of like this thing 649 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: over here. I actually don't know of an example of 650 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: what to compare it to. Like there's other people and 651 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: then there's the Sean Ryan experience, and I don't know. 652 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: The way they all acted. It was like. 653 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: It's like I don't know a football team where at 654 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: halftime they all finally get together and they're all in 655 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: the same sheet of music and they all go out 656 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: there and you can tell when they just like gel 657 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: together and they're all working together towards the same mission. 658 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: There's a magic that happens on the field. It kind 659 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: of felt like that to me. 660 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: So that was my well. I mean I've worked with, 661 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, some championship teams. I've worked with some elite 662 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: operators and businesses, you know, some of the biggest businesses 663 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: in the world. And you're right, that's what it was. 664 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: It was a real the team, but like that deeper level, 665 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: not just the let's be a great team corny stuff 666 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: like these people, you know, they all eight slept and 667 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: they bleed srs right, And and that's why, like you said, 668 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: that's why the content is so pure, it is so good, 669 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: it is so meaningful for so many millions of people 670 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: because they feel that translates into it from their trailers, 671 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: which are, in my mind, the best in the business. 672 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: Nobody makes unmatched. They're just spectacular. They're better than like, 673 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and two hundred million dollar movie trailers. 674 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: And now who did that? 675 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: Said that he had this whole artistic vision of you know, 676 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: whenever I see a new TV show drop or a 677 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: movie or a new series on Netflix, there's always like 678 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 2: a really cool intro trailer that happens. It's always iconic 679 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: and you remember it. And I was like, well, why 680 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: can't we do that for a podcast? And he's talented 681 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 2: enough that he actually did it. But just to even 682 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: ask that question is is unique. 683 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: I had an opportunity in my life to talk to 684 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: a guy who runs a company out in la who 685 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: does that, Like he's one of the top in the 686 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: business to make movie trailers. And you know, the way 687 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: he talks about it is like he's you know, the 688 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: trailer is the thing that makes you emotionally invested to 689 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: move forward, right, And if you think about the shows 690 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: that all the fifteen million podcasts that are in the world, 691 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: how many shows make you feel something so deeply emotional 692 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: in the preview that they pull you in for a 693 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: six four hour, seven hour, seven and a half hour show. 694 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: And it's because of that, It's because of his gift 695 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: and his ability and his desire to want to give 696 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: you that when you watch this. So it's like that's 697 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: the thing. And all the way from post production, I mean, 698 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: they're editing in real time. You know. That was the 699 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: other thing that just blew me away. 700 00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: Can I say that you get? 701 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? You were in there. 702 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in the editing room and I was 703 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: talking to all the editors, so obviously we got to 704 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 2: talk shop a little bit, right, And just to comment 705 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: on the last thing, really quick, little inside baseball for 706 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: podcast producer world. Some people don't know that producing a 707 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 2: trailer like that, you think, oh, we'll do the podcast 708 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll like we'll make a trailer. We'll cut 709 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: a trailer real quick after that, so you know, kind 710 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 2: of hype up the episode. You know, the trailer takes 711 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 2: way longer than editing that whole episode. Like the amount 712 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: of time they have to spend to add on a 713 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: trailer like that is it might be double what it 714 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: takes to actually just produce the whole episode itself. That 715 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 2: trailer takes a lot of thought and time and energy 716 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: and creativity. And the fact that they do that for 717 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 2: every single episode. They don't have to do that. They 718 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: could just release the episode, right, they choose to put 719 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: that much effort just into the trailer. It shows so much. 720 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 2: But Yeah, the coolest thing that I saw in terms 721 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: of nerdy tech stuff is the way they're editing it. 722 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: So while that podcast is being recorded, those files are 723 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: being saved on a computer that's you know, SYNCD up 724 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: with their editing software, and that those files are getting 725 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: fed into Premiere Pro and they're editing software. 726 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 3: In real time. 727 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: And man, this dude on his team, he was a 728 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 2: trooper for that entire day. That guy was editing your 729 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: conversation with Sean the entire time just locked in And 730 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: I mean you guys went for it was probably ten 731 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: hours total with the breaks, right, and so this guy 732 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: was just locked in that whole time. But just think 733 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: about they have the soul and the heart, but they 734 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: also have that well oiled machine where they can crank 735 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 2: out this stuff so quickly. 736 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 3: That's what makes it unique. They have both of those things. 737 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree totally. And so when you hear us 738 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: talk about this, you know, this is what you know 739 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: you're is all around you. So the intensity and the 740 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: commitment level of of all these people that are you know, 741 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: completely on board to help fulfill Sean's vision of all 742 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: these interviews, like that's the engine behind it. And so 743 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, you go into that that experience and you 744 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: step in those doors and you know you probably felt 745 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of that tension if you watched it 746 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: between he and I when we started and you know, 747 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean we did this. You know, Sean is very 748 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: gracious and gives the right amount of space prior to 749 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: the right amount of prep the right amount of guidance, 750 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: the right amount of everything. You know, he realizes what's coming, 751 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: he knows he's been in hundreds of those so far, 752 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: the most intimate, you know, deepest moments of anyone's life, 753 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: they're about ready to share with him in front of 754 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: millions of people. And he knows that, and he's gracious 755 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: about it, and he provided and then particular for me, 756 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: you know, us being as close as we are, you know, 757 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: he made sure I felt that for him. And there's 758 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: no amount of gratitude or thanks that I could ever 759 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: even articulate, uh to Sean for that and the and 760 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: the gratitude I felt for his team to give me 761 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: that that runway to move into that room. But certainly 762 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: once you step in that room, man, it's it's on. 763 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: And obviously you can go watch the show. Uh, it 764 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: would be wonderful if if you did, We would appreciate it, 765 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, support them, support the show. Uh. And but 766 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: really what it what it is is, it's it's a transformation. 767 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: It's a it's not only a cathartic experience in order 768 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: to be able to delve into those those darkest recesses 769 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: of your soul and your experience, but it's also U 770 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: it brings immeasurable levity. Uh. I was able to illuminate 771 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: so much about my experience and how it shaped who 772 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: I was and what I believe and who I am 773 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: as as you know, as a Christian, as a husband 774 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: and a father, as a friend, as a son, you know, 775 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: all these things, but also as an artist, as an operator, 776 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: as an author, as a mentor, as a coach. You know, 777 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: all of those things are able to be laid out 778 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: in a way that really is is unique and and 779 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: and and you know, not that my story is any 780 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: better than anybody else's, but Sean creates the space where 781 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: he really makes you feel like, you know, to be 782 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: proud of of where you come from, regardless of the 783 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: anguish and the suffering and the pain that we experience. 784 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: And that's really the gift, the gift of of what 785 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: Sean Ryan does for all of us is Sean gives 786 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: us access uh and humanizes the thing that unites us. 787 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: Regardless of of our our gender, our race, our backgrounds, 788 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: our socioeconomic status, our nationalities. We're all unified in our 789 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: collective understanding of pain and suffering. And and he believes 790 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: that that is a tool to heal others. If you 791 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: saw kind of his video that that you know said 792 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: goodbye to the old studio he says that, you know, 793 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: my my goal was to help plant the seed of 794 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: of resilience and recovery and healing to anybody who's gracious 795 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: enough to spend their time watching what he produces and 796 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: what he what he offers, and and and you feel 797 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: that in the midst of it, Like, I mean, I've 798 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: never once spoken publicly about that experience in Afghanistan. And 799 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: there was a reason because it was the most painful 800 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: thing in my life. Uh, you know that I've gone through, 801 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: and the fact that he was able to give me 802 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: that strength and to like because you could look, you 803 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: look at my my best friend in the eyes as 804 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm like right on the precipice of delivering you know, 805 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, and he's just like, I got you. 806 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: I got you. Don't worry, I got you. You're good 807 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: and I love you, and it's okay, You'll be fine. 808 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: And man, I've never experienced that before. And I don't 809 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: even know. I mean, I've done you know myself. I 810 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: think I'm up around three hundred podcasts or something like that. 811 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've been on dozens of podcasts myself. But 812 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: you know that that that that gift is is as 813 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: powerful gift as anything I've ever been given, and and 814 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: just it's it's a remarkable experience, certainly after you come 815 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: out in between the breaks, when you take the breaks. Uh, 816 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: you know, our first break, we did the shooting thing 817 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: and that was a lot of fun that really you know, 818 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: put some tension. Then we go back in, we do 819 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: the next section, then we come back out. We went 820 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 1: in and then we went in for the heavy stuff 821 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: the next one, and then I think we took one 822 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: more and then finished. And what was crazy was you know, 823 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: I you know this in marathon Ultra marathon interview and 824 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: as it ended, you know, I essentially really didn't even 825 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: talk about what I've been doing professionally since I left 826 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: the agency. I mean, we touched on it a little bit, 827 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: but you know, it was more about those experiences and 828 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: it was you know, it was awesome, and you know, 829 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: and one of the things you just you trust is 830 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: that you know, the audience is going to get the 831 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: pieces that they need to get about me and who 832 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: I was, and hopefully they can take those away. So 833 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, all right, now we have this, 834 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, from two thousand, you know, eleven into twenty 835 00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 1: twelve to twenty twenty five. You know, I essentially talk 836 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: about anything I've been doing professionally. That and that was 837 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, we we laughed afterwards, and both Jordie and 838 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: johnn and you know, I've come out. I'm exhausted, and 839 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like, what do you think, you know, if 840 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: you want to know? And they're like, it was perfect. 841 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: It couldn't have been better. And they were so wonderful. Jordy, 842 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: you were such an amazing friend and I'm so blessed 843 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: to have your support and all this. And because you 844 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: don't know, like you're just freaked out, you just exposed, 845 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: you got naked. Like that was funny. 846 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 2: Because it was funny because you know, you go into 847 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 2: this and people, for people who don't know, there's no 848 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 2: guidance on like how long is this interview going to be? 849 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 3: No one knows how long the interview is going to be. 850 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 2: So you just walk in and just you just start 851 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 2: right And it was so funny because so first of all, 852 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: me and John are the edge of our seats watching 853 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 2: and watching in the editing room, right because from the 854 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 2: first five minutes, you know, you can feel the tension, 855 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 2: not in a bad way, but in a good way, 856 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 2: because I mean, there's a lot of guests on the show, 857 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 2: but you don't have many best friends in the world, right, 858 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: and so you can feel that tension of those two, 859 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: these two guys in the room that have been through 860 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 2: so much together. And the first five minutes, I feel 861 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: like you guys were just kind of like, well, here 862 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: we go, Like what's about to happen? But anyway, you 863 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,439 Speaker 2: got through the first break and me and JOHNO were 864 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 2: wondering how long this is going to go? And when 865 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 2: you when you took the first break, we're an hour 866 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 2: and a half, two hours in and you hadn't even 867 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 2: gotten to wanting to go to the military yet in 868 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 2: your life story, and we were like, oh, okay, it's 869 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 2: going to be like that. And that was the That 870 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 2: was the craziest part. And people who watch you're gonna 871 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 2: feel that that that tension that's very unique between the 872 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: two best friends. 873 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh thank you Jordy for saying that. You know, I mean, 874 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: I speak professionally for a living. Just a couple of 875 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 1: weeks before the show, I was out with a new 876 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine now Jamie, out in Missouri 877 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: in Iowa doing some events out there, and one day 878 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: I spoke for like seven hours the clients, and then 879 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: we talked for two hours in the you know, in 880 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: the car on the way to the next city. And 881 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, thank god, I do that for a living 882 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 1: and I speak that much, so I was able to 883 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: have the composure or the stamina is really the better word, 884 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: to be able to manage that endurance feet of that 885 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 1: ultra marathon interview. But it was, you know that, That's 886 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: the thing, Like you, I never once got to the 887 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: space where it's like I want this to end because 888 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: it's too much. I'm overwhelmed because of what they are 889 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: Shawn and his team are able to create, you know, 890 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: and if if you ever have the you know, grand fortune, 891 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: the blessing of getting an opportunity to go on his show, 892 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: you'll experience this in some way, shape or form. And 893 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: it's it's unlike anything I've ever experienced in any way, 894 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,240 Speaker 1: you know. And I've been on some really amazing shows 895 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: of people's shows that have had me on people I 896 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: really love. But there's just something about it because everything 897 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: that anybody who's come before you, they built that room. 898 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: Their stories built that room there. Their their heartache, their pain, 899 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: their suffering, they built that room. And so you know, 900 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: not only do I want to pay tribute to everybody 901 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: in my life that had an impact to help me 902 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,720 Speaker 1: get through my life that was there for me who 903 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: in every way, shape or form, but it's also all 904 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: the other people who came before. And so you like, 905 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: in my mind, it's like, I want to contribute. I 906 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: want to also, uh help that space. I want to 907 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: be a part. I want to participate in it and 908 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,919 Speaker 1: be and I want to you know, give whatever God 909 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: wants me to give in that moment as well too. 910 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: And so it's it's a really really amazing thing. But 911 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When we finished at the ad Man, 912 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: uh it was. It was. It was quite the experience 913 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: for sure. And uh, I just you know, it was 914 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: so amazing because you know, you leave and you know 915 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, everybody's exhausted, You're exhausting. You go back and 916 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: we went back to our little airbnb that we the 917 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: three of us were in, and this is Sean. Sean's like, 918 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: hey man, I'm going to stop by, and he came 919 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: over and he came over for what another two hours 920 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: almost yeh two hours, sitting with us, asking question more 921 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: questions us asking him questions and. 922 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 3: And this was an all day shoot, dude. 923 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: He got in there, he was in there like eight 924 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 1: thirty in the more eight eight something in eight thirty. 925 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 3: Hour day of shooting and then go visit and. 926 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: Then come and spend time with with me and and 927 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: my family and and that's who he is. And it's 928 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: just uh an amazing, unbelievable experience, you know. And you know, 929 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: one of the one of the things that you know, 930 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: we try and do and and you try I think 931 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: a lot of people try to do is you know, 932 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: you always try and end the show being like, all right, well, 933 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: what do you got going now? And what are you 934 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 1: doing now? And all this stuff now. And obviously, Jordi 935 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: and I and John have been crushing ourselves over the 936 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: last four months to get all this new content available, 937 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: not only in the Dave Rudford Show, but to really 938 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: refine and develop our online training at the Frog Logic Institute. 939 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: You know, the three courses that we've built out Embrace, Fear, Forging, 940 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: self Confidence, Live a Team Life, and I mean what 941 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: we we shot and edited close to eighty videos in 942 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: all those in something it's I mean, Jordy was working 943 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: around o'clock, all while his wife's pregnant, he's about ready 944 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: to have his new kid, and we're just like, we're 945 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: shooting five videos a day, you know, for weeks on end, 946 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: and he's just grinding through it. And you know, then changes, 947 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right through diper change. And then you know, 948 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: I've been working on this books since the last November, 949 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: and you know, we're we're we're pushing hard to wrap 950 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 1: this thing up and we're gonna we're going to get 951 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: it out to you know people before the holidays, you know, 952 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: and and you know, we so we have this book 953 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: to offer, you know, this pre order book of this 954 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: book I've been working on that's been in my head 955 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: for seven years, these characters and these ideas, and and 956 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, it was weird because you know, November last year, 957 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: my life was completely different. I was pretty much only 958 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: doing you know the stuff with with my the asset 959 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: management firm, and that was it. I had stopped my show. 960 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't really online, I wasn't creating, I wasn't writing, 961 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything. And and you know, I've got 962 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: this amazing therapist with this organization, uh, the Soft Network 963 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,240 Speaker 1: that we use with an operator Centrome Foundation for the guys, 964 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: our pilot guys and me. I use when I used, 965 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: I work with this incredible human being. And I remember 966 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: our second meeting, She's like, you know, what are you 967 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: doing to fulfill that create the creative need? And so 968 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 1: I started writing this book and lo and behold, next thing, 969 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, the show comes, next thing comes. Then Sean 970 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: Ryan's showed coming, and so we had all this stuff 971 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: and and thank god, you know, Sean didn't go down 972 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: that path and and cheap it in it with with 973 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: some type of infomercial for me at the end, and uh, 974 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: it was just such a blessing regardless. And you know, 975 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: we're we're recording this, uh and we're not really you know, 976 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: quite sure what's going to happen. It's it's uh, you know. 977 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 2: It was recorded after the recording but before the release 978 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 2: of the show. 979 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so we were not one hundred percent 980 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: sure what everything's going to look at And and you 981 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: know that one of the beautiful things that Seawan always says, 982 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: and he says to me, is like, you know, just 983 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, don't have expectations, just trust your faith, believe 984 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,760 Speaker 1: in God, believe in Christ. And and it'll come back. You'll, it'll, it'll, it'll. 985 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: God will pay you what you do deserve in the 986 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: right time, in God's time. And he was able to 987 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: really uh say that to us. So you know, we're 988 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: just overwhelmed with the opportunity and the gratitude and and 989 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: so you know, we really Johanna, Jordie and I really 990 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to pay tribute to Shawn's team all of you. 991 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You are absolutely incredible. You're the 992 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,439 Speaker 1: best in the business. We appreciate everything that you did 993 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: for us and well do and have done for us. 994 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: I really look forward us continuing our friendships and and 995 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: we just were we we're grateful for you guys. And 996 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: then uh, you know, to to Katie, you know, thank you, uh, 997 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: your hospitality, your grace and your loving supportive of my 998 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: best friend is overwhelming. And and the kids, we just 999 00:57:53,080 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: love y'all so much. Uh And then Sean Man, thank you. 1000 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: I just uh just thank you. I love you. I 1001 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: really appreciate what you who you are, you and my 1002 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: life and for this opportunity, I'm just I'm grateful, so 1003 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much. All Right, there you have it. 1004 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: There's the recap. Of the experience the Sean Ryan effect 1005 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: and what it does and the impact it had on me, 1006 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: it had on Geordie, it had on Johnna, and we're 1007 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: just I'm just praying that if you listen to it, 1008 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: uh and you hear it, you just realize, you know, 1009 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 1: what our intention is and what we we run to 1010 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: do in our life is similar to Sean We we 1011 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: just want to bring some goodness, we want to expose 1012 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: some bad things, but more importantly, we just want to 1013 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: be able to lift people up a little bit and 1014 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: let you know, Uh, we're going to get through it. 1015 00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: We're going to get through it together. We're going to 1016 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: get through it with our faith, We're going to get 1017 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: through it with our friendships, and we're certainly going to 1018 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: get through it. Uh. If we all believe that, we 1019 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: are so thank you all so much, godspeed who we 1020 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: are