WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Donovan Mitchell Destination, The Open, Zak Keefer 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.200 Sports Radio Our two on this Thursday. Good weather at 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.720 the Open Championship, a little windy earth than I thought 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.120 it was going to be. Some pretty good scores. Tiger 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 just teed off. We'll keep an eye on things if 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.160 you're curious about how the live tour players are doing. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.119 Got a couple of guys on the leaderboard, Ian Poulter, Bryson, 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.840 deshambo Lee Westwood, Phil Mickelson at even par, but Tiger 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.120 just teeing off. Rory is closing out his round. He's 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.319 at five under. Your leader is at eight under par 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.080 right now, So we'll keep an eye on that. Coming up. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.400 The interesting story about Andrew Luck I think it's interesting 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.559 because he hasn't done an interview. He walked away. He 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.640 has shown up at a couple of places, showed up 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.360 at a football camp, showed up at halftime or pregame 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.080 of a I think Big Ten title game. But for 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.760 the most part he's just kind of disappeared. But there's 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.720 a deep dive podcast on that done by the athletic 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.480 Zach Keefer. He covers the Colts. He's going to join 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.960 us coming up a little bit Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager, 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.440 will join us a little bit later on as well. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.280 Phone call is always welcome. Operator Tyler's standing by eight 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.880 seven seven three d P Show email address dpt dan 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.559 Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. Say morning 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.959 to those watching on Peacock Car streaming partner and our 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:33.200 partners at iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio, and our radio affiliates 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.480 around the country. Donovan Mitchell average just under twenty six 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.640 points per game last season. He's twenty five years of age. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.119 That type of player isn't normally available. And if you're 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.120 a GM looking for a difference maker, this is the 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.880 kind of player. Like if you said I could have 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.000 Donovan Mitchell or Kevin Durant, Well, how long do I 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.920 get Durant? How long do I get Mitchell? But Mitchell 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.320 makes a lot of sense for a few teams here. Plus, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.360 what am I giving up to get Donovan Mitchell? What 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.720 am I giving up to get Kevin Durant? Can I 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.360 get Kevin Durant? Feels like I can get Donovan Mitchell. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.240 I don't know if I can appease the nets on 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.240 what I would offer for Kevin Durant. Utah Jazz GM 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.840 Danny Ainge has an impressive history when it comes to 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:22.040 dealing away or acquiring talent. In twenty thirteen, he dealt 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.040 Paul Pierson Kevin Garnett to Brooklyn for draft picks. Those 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.720 picks turned out to be Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.960 Fast forward to twenty seventeen, Ainge traded away the number 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.400 one overall pick to Philadelphia in an exchange for the 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.920 third overall pick in the future first seventy six Ers 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.399 drafted Mark cal Foltz. Celtics took Tatum. Ange is now 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.720 in Utah. He traded away Rudy Gobert in Minnesota and 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:53.800 got well above his perceived value. Mitchell in intriguing talent. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.239 But when you trade with Danny Ainge, not that he 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.320 the second coming of Jerry West or Red Arbach. But 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.640 Danny Ainge has a game plan here. The question is 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.200 who's involved in that game plan? Does it include Donovan 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.960 Mitchell And it doesn't seem like that is the case. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.880 I think the Knicks were probably on the short list 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.600 here of having the parts to be able to trade 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.600 for Donovan Mitchell, provided you don't have to give up 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.120 our Jay Barrett. But if you have Jalen Brunson or 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.680 Jay Barrett. You have Donovan Mitchell, all right, you've got 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.720 something that's interesting, You become relevant, and you actually have 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.840 players who want to play for New York and I 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.960 think those are players. Jalen Brunson and Donovan Mitchell would 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.520 be players that other players might want to play with. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.560 Even though the dysfunction at the top of the Knicks organization, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.560 if the Miami Heater involved in this, it feels like 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.960 the Heat they want either Kevin Durant or Donovan Mitchell. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.280 Now I know, I don't know what they're going to 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.280 give up because they can't trade Bam out of Bio 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.720 to the Nets for Kevin Durant. You're not allowed to 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:03.120 do that because the Ben Simmons, you know, the the 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:08.440 designated contract. So it's you know, it's a little too complex. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.600 But certain players like Devin Booker can't be traded by 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.440 the Phoenix Suns to the Brooklyn Nets. Now if you 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:20.240 trade Ben Simmons, now you're open for business. I don't 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.159 know who wants Ben Simmons right now. I don't know 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.839 if the Nets want Ben Simmons right now. But if 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.760 I'm the Knicks and I can get Donovan Mitchell. It's 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.560 a pretty good, pretty good acquisition depending on what you 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.760 give up. But it just feels like and even the 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.239 deal or they potential for a deal with Golden State 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.720 and Kevin Durant. When we had Brian Winhorst from the 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.080 Mothership on yesterday, you know, you start to look at 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.440 it and go, what's Golden State going to give up? 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.400 And I thought that they might take a run at 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.440 Bradley Beale. I thought, you know what, you got the 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.560 team keeping together, you could win another championship, and why 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.120 not trade some of these younger players get Bradley in. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760 If you're Washington, you're not winning anything. If you're Bradley Beale, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.400 you sign your max deal. Maybe you could go to 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:12.640 Golden State. Golden State doesn't mind spending money. But Bradley 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.880 Beale not on the move as of yet. But as 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.640 far as KD, if you said to Brooklyn, hey, we're 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:24.479 gonna give you Jonathan Comingah, you know Wiseman, and we 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.960 can give you maybe Jordan Poole, maybe a draft pick 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.280 or two. Can you get Kevin Durant? Does Kevin Durant 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.880 want that? I would be curious. Draymond Green's rolling all 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.839 to this because Draymond had a confrontation with Katie that 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.600 kad acknowledge. He acknowledges that was kind of the beginning 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.320 of the end. But Draymont has been saying a lot 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.640 of nice things. Verbal Bouquets on his podcast about k 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:58.119 D found that interesting, but as long as he doesn't 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.200 tamper there with Kevin Durant. But you know, maybe once again, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.080 this speaks to Steph Curry because a lot of players 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.360 get territorial. This is my team now. Duane Wade said, 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.520 this is my team, but I'm going to turn it 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.960 over to Lebron James. And then they won a couple 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:19.200 of championships. Steph to me said, hey, I want a championship. Here, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.640 Katie's coming in, come on in. I'm gonna go help 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.800 recruit you. It says a lot about Steph Curry that 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.640 he is willing to do what's best for the team. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.719 And he did that, what do he do it again? 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:36.400 And they just want a championship. That's the interesting part 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.160 of the timing of this. I guess you can't say 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.440 it's far fetched. It feels that way, but you know, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.080 Golden State, when they were bad, they had these draft picks, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.960 and you know, Cominga could be a star one day. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.520 I don't know if Wiseman can be. They're playing in 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.440 the summer League. Cominga had thirty the other night. Wiseman, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.400 you know, he's a mobile, big guy. You know, maybe 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.880 he's a DeAndre Ayton. I don't know. But if you're 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.480 if you're Golden State, you want to run this back again? 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.560 Are you able to do that? Because Draymond Green started 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:18.200 to show that he's near the end, clay might be 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.960 even better next year. Steph, I don't know. I don't 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.640 know how much longer he can continue to be Steph 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.280 Curry with the way he plays. So can you bring 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.200 in Katie and make a run at one or two 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.320 more titles here? That would be my would I would 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.720 keep my foot on the accelerator. If I'm Golden State, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.360 I'm not letting Memphis catch up with me. I'm not 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.960 letting the Lakers, you know, if they get Kyrie. I'm 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.200 not letting Phoenix, and I'm not letting anybody catch up 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.040 to us. And so I would I would certainly explore 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.360 that if if it's really true about Katie, yeah, seton 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.520 and it feels like the emergence of Andrew Wiggins as 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:04.000 a legit player there maybe extends Steph's career a little bit. Well. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:08.480 I love Pool, but Wiggins was a great pick up 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.560 for them, a great fight. I didn't know that he 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.200 would you be able to fit in because former number 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.320 one overall pick, but he did. He'd fit in. He 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.760 played really good defense. It's an interesting team of what 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.880 they do and how they do it. But KD would 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.680 go back in and they wouldn't miss anything because KD 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.080 would do what KD does. But I would not give 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.680 the NBA a chance for anybody to reload, for Miami 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.080 to trade for somebody. You know what's going on with Philadelphia, 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.880 James Harden going back like I don't want any Boston 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.240 they got it, Malcolm Brogden, Okay, let's make the big 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.600 splash here. Let's go for the jugular again. And I 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:51.400 would definitely explore. You know, it's it's a win now league. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.280 You know, you talk about draft picks, Okay, they're great, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.920 but if you don't use them correctly, then you're really 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.400 like Oklahoma City has gotta get this right. Utah getting 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.200 all those first round picks from Minnesota, Okay, they're not 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.880 going to be high draft picks because Minnesota is probably 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.080 gonna be good because he traded away Rudy Gobert. Now 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.000 what do you do with those drafts? They always sound 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.000 good in a trade, like, well, they got first round 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.120 draft picks, and then you go, where are those draft 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:26.000 picks going to be? Noah twenty seven, twenty eight? Yeah. Point. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.000 If you look back at Steph Curry's career twenty fifteen season, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.560 here's thirty points a game and won league MVP, but 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.439 they lost the title. They added Durant, his stats went 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.800 down to twenty five points per game. The next year's 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.880 he won back to back NBA titles. Last year they 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.880 lost the NBA title. Here was thirty two points a 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.320 game and led the league in scoring. They lost. This year, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.040 his stats were down to twenty five a game and 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.839 they won the title. He doesn't seem like everybody has 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.480 an ego, but it feels like he's able to go. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.080 You don't come on in, Katie, like, I don't care, Hey, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.920 Clay's having a great night, get him the ball. I 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:07.280 don't know, You've got to be selfish, But it feels like, 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.600 you know, he's a he's unselfish for the for the 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.960 bigger picture, the greater good. And that's why if if 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.800 it's possible to bring in Kevin Durant with an organization 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.640 that doesn't mind spending, you give up a couple of these. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.600 If you say I give up Wiseman, Cominga and Jordan Poole, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.880 I'm giving them three starters in Brooklyn, but I'm getting 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.760 Kevin Durant. Can I fill in the rest of this? 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.520 Because when the season started, I thought Clay would be better, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.000 and I thought these younger players would contribute more than 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:46.280 they did, and they still won the title. So do 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.120 they look at them and say we got to have them? 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.000 And you know, they know how good Cominga is or 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.280 Wiseman is and the role that they're going to play. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:59.080 But you know you got young guys here with Clay 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.080 and Steph Draymond. If you're going to run it back, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.600 then run it back all the way. Go go for 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.960 the title. Don't don't let anybody catch up to you. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.400 All right, A couple of phone calls in here. Let's 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:16.880 see Bob in Seattle. Hi, Bob, what's on your mind today? Hey? 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:23.280 But so my first album was Kiss Destroyer way back 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.280 in the day. So I had a question for you. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.200 Last week, I was on vacation, the family vacation from 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.240 Seattle to Sekoia National Park and we were at this 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.280 picnic table middle of nowhere. There was a few of 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:44.040 the families were all cooking dinner. Gigantic black bear comes 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.400 out of nowhere and oh my god, it was like 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.600 a Rodney danger Field movie. Big eyes. People were scattered, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.160 the bear left, and everyone just high tailed the other. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.520 So my question is, have you ever had a bear 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.600 encount or do we have a dante a bear expert? 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.400 I have a great game, all right. I had a 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:11.080 bear encounter. I've talked about this a fishing tour that 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.760 I went on British Columbia and I ran into the 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:20.560 commode bear that looks like an albino bear, but it's 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.960 one of the rarest animals in the world. And I'm 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.960 over on it turned out to be an island and 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:34.040 we found this bear and this guy was just hunting 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.920 for salmon, and I had I had a camera and 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.160 so I just started taking photos of him. He's far 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.840 away and next thing I know, I'm looking through all 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.760 the photos that I have taken and he walks by 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.800 me and he's probably I'm going to say, eight to 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.360 ten feet away from me, walking right by me, and 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:58.319 the people I'm with backed up, and they didn't say anything. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.280 And this bear is ten ft away from me at 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.480 the you know, at the farthest ten feet away, and 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.280 he just stared at me. And I just kept firing 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.079 pictures and I had these unbelievable pictures of this rare animal. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.440 And then like I'm holding my I literally I'm holding 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.640 my breath. I don't want him to hear me. And 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.320 you know how stupid is that. I mean, he could 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.640 smell me. But he always cared about was the salmon. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.080 And he went in the salmon or spawning, and he's 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.280 got these big mits, he's got you know, these uh nails, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.760 these talents. He's like stabbing the salmon as they're going up. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.520 And I'm going, oh my god, Like, what what's my 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.000 exit strategy? Here? Do I go in the water, because 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.480 I'm figuring he's gonna if he wanted me, he could 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.520 have me. But that was one of those where it's 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.640 you know, coming to Jesus, where you go, oh my God. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.960 And then I say to the people who were there 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.040 with me, I said, why didn't you tell me? They said, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.840 we didn't want to disturb the bear. I go, how 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.520 about you disturb me so I can get out of 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.520 the way from this thing. But it's it's a religious 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:04.040 it's called this spirit bear, commode bear. Yeah, Polly, knowing 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.719 how much you like salmon up there, I'm probably you 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.440 didn't jump in with I thought about that, you guys battling. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.520 If it was Copper River salmon, then I might have 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.120 gone in there with him. Yeah, you get out of 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.960 the way here, Yes, seton, And your guide said, you know, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:23.760 seeing this bear is almost impossible. Ah, that's terrible. I 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:30.640 give him a break. That's impossible. That's terrible. It's still terrible. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:36.360 My guide was Native American, lived there his entire life, 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.360 never in forty seven years of age, had never seen 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.360 the commode bear. He starts crying when he sees the 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.400 commode bear. He can't talk. He's sobbing because he's seen 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:53.440 this spirit bear, a religious figure to them. But if 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.440 you google it one of the rarest animals in the world. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.680 And U he could have had me for lunch if 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.920 he wanted to. Yes, time, you were never the salmon again? 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:13.960 After that? Impossible to be Yeah, we're not. 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Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.400 Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.920 until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.920 and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.919 FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Couple 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.679 of phone calls before we get to Zach Keefer. He 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:36.040 covers the Colds and part of a six episode series 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.320 on Andrew Luck on the Athletic. We'll get to him 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.040 in a moment. Jimmy and Indiana joins us on the program. Hi, Jimmy, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.439 what's on your mind? Good morning, Dan six foot one. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.720 Obviously I know what you look like. I listened to 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.560 this program on the radio, so I've never seen it 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.520 on Peacock, so I don't know what the dan ats 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.480 look like. If you could take a moment and describe 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.359 what your guys look like and which one has the 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.120 really infectious laugh every time I hear hear here, it 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:14.520 makes me laughing up. And listen to what you have 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.959 to say about describing your guys. I think it's more 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.080 fun to imagine they look like. Yeah, they look a 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.359 whole lot better when you imagine what they look like 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.879 as opposed to what they look like. UM, let me 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:30.600 use actors here. Paulie would be a if I if 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.639 I look through my bad eye, Jason Statham and Woody 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.359 Harrelson combo there all, I'll take it. Yeah, using my 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.080 bad eye. Fritzie. If you are fans of the movie Rocky, 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:49.120 he looks like but but you do look like Burt Young? 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.160 Really think I look like Burt from Rocky? You don't 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.200 think you look like you? Don't? I really don't. Who 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.399 do you think? Do you think? I don't know. I 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.560 don't definitely don't see that as a comp man um. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.639 Who's the more like him? But that's I don't know 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.439 if that's anything crazy? Okay, Seaton O'Connor, Now would I 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.320 describe seat? Yeah, I would say, and not. I'm not 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.080 making fun of everybody. Anybody. If James Cordon were a 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.760 little little taller and a little thin thinner, yeah, I 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.760 think it's pretty close. Okay, you've been mistaken for James Gordon's. 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.840 It's pretty spot on. Yeah yeah, okay, so James Gordon, Marv, 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:39.240 m hm, anybody got any uh movie references here? Like 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.280 if Wesley Snipes were a little thicker and ball and 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:48.040 smaller hands. Yeah, okay, but I would say maybe Wesley Snipes, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.760 but not that's I'm reaching a little bit. Marv. Who 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:52.879 have you been told you look like you know what? 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.920 Daniel Kalua? Okay from get Out? Somebody's like you kind 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:03.240 of remind me, not like you guys are twins or anything. Okay, yeah, yes, yes, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.119 I was going to say the guy who plays Mac 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.399 in Predator. Remember the movie Predator. The actor's name is 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.760 Bill Duke, Bill Duke. That's exactly. It's like a young 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:20.240 Bill Duke. Okay, because somebody, Yeah, Bill Duke is a 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:25.240 pretty well known actor. He was, he was in American Jiggalo. 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.800 I think with Richard Gear Yes he is, uh, he's 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:33.040 the he's his pamp. Yeah, Julian is the Yes. Hey, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:39.600 let me make a smooth segue to Zach Kiefer. Zach 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.439 covers the Colts and the NFL for the Athletic and 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.840 the host of the Andrew Luck podcast. It's a six 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.680 part series, six episodes of Luck on the Athletic Football Show, 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.679 feed or wherever you listen to your podcast. How did 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.240 you come up with the the thought of doing this, 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.280 whether you were going to have any cooperation with Andrew Luck. 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:10.000 That's a heck of a segue, Danum, Yeah, great question. 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.520 Why now? Right? Like? Why do this project? And at 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.640 first I kind of resisted it. I didn't I wasn't 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.560 ready to dive back again. I lived all of this 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.560 covering the Colts the last couple of years. But for 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.000 a couple of reasons. One, he's sort of like this 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.399 mysterious figure in Indianapolis. He lives five minutes from the 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.000 teenth facility. The specter of Andrew Luck still hangs over 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.399 this franchise in a way. But you know, you go 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.399 to Philip Rivers, you go to Carson Wentz, you go 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.680 to Matt Ryan, like they haven't found the next guy, 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.639 and he's only thirty two years old, and there's a 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.639 lot of what ifs, and to be honest, when you 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.840 dig into it, for a lot of reasons, I think 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.000 it's one of the more interesting stories we've had in 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.359 the NFL in a long time. It's it's incomplete, and 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.919 it's mysterious, and it's surprising, and it's it's just fascinating 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.680 on a lot of levels. What role does Luck play 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:02.480 in the mystery here of not just disappearing but not 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:08.280 really commenting on disappearing. Yeah, he's almost like the like 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.880 a big foot in this city. Like if you go back, 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.800 it's it's impossible to understate, like how big of a 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.080 decision it was for Jim Mercy to move on from 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:18.879 Peyton Manning in twenty twelve, And that's one of the 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.320 early episodes. It's like that just wasn't ever supposed to happen, 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.439 and it did. If you're going to move on from 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.720 Peyton Manning, you move on for the next Peyton Manning 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:28.879 right in a lot of ways. And then he was 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:30.600 done when he was twenty nine years old, and he 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.600 walked away fifteen days before the season. Like I remember 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.240 looking at that at that guy that night, looking in 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.760 his face and thinking what happened? Like how did we 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:42.679 get here? And that's what we try to answer, like 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:46.399 how does the best quarterback prospects since John Elway end 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.080 up walking away before he's thirty years old? And what 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:54.520 happened to him? Since? Have you talked to Luck? Yes, 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.360 we caught up. He's done no interviews since he retired. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.200 He's like a ghost. Like I said, we've stayed in touch. 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.440 We met, we had coffee for an hour and a half, 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.680 all off the record, So I will honor that he's 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:13.200 not quoted. You can imagine my disappointment with that. But 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.400 he thought about participating, which would have been a big deal. 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:17.880 It would have been the first time he's talked since 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.920 he retired. He ultimately declined, But to some degree, it's 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.119 almost better that he's not in the podcast because so 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.920 many people around him. Tell the stories that we never heard. 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.520 What were the warning signs that we should have seen. Yeah, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:38.240 that's a great question. That's into episodes three four. Well, 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.280 I'll go back to Stanford. So his first start as 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.320 a quarterback, David Shaw's his offensive coordinator. In his first play, 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.320 he scrambles out of a pocket and instead of ducking 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.919