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Speaker 1: at five under. Your leader is at eight under par
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Speaker 1: The interesting story about Andrew Luck I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: because he hasn't done an interview. He walked away. He
Speaker 1: has shown up at a couple of places, showed up
Speaker 1: at a football camp, showed up at halftime or pregame
Speaker 1: of a I think Big Ten title game. But for
Speaker 1: the most part he's just kind of disappeared. But there's
Speaker 1: a deep dive podcast on that done by the athletic
Speaker 1: Zach Keefer. He covers the Colts. He's going to join
Speaker 1: us coming up a little bit Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager,
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Speaker 1: around the country. Donovan Mitchell average just under twenty six
Speaker 1: points per game last season. He's twenty five years of age.
Speaker 1: That type of player isn't normally available. And if you're
Speaker 1: a GM looking for a difference maker, this is the
Speaker 1: kind of player. Like if you said I could have
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell or Kevin Durant, Well, how long do I
Speaker 1: get Durant? How long do I get Mitchell? But Mitchell
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense for a few teams here. Plus,
Speaker 1: what am I giving up to get Donovan Mitchell? What
Speaker 1: am I giving up to get Kevin Durant? Can I
Speaker 1: get Kevin Durant? Feels like I can get Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can appease the nets on
Speaker 1: what I would offer for Kevin Durant. Utah Jazz GM
Speaker 1: Danny Ainge has an impressive history when it comes to
Speaker 1: dealing away or acquiring talent. In twenty thirteen, he dealt
Speaker 1: Paul Pierson Kevin Garnett to Brooklyn for draft picks. Those
Speaker 1: picks turned out to be Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty seventeen, Ainge traded away the number
Speaker 1: one overall pick to Philadelphia in an exchange for the
Speaker 1: third overall pick in the future first seventy six Ers
Speaker 1: drafted Mark cal Foltz. Celtics took Tatum. Ange is now
Speaker 1: in Utah. He traded away Rudy Gobert in Minnesota and
Speaker 1: got well above his perceived value. Mitchell in intriguing talent.
Speaker 1: But when you trade with Danny Ainge, not that he
Speaker 1: the second coming of Jerry West or Red Arbach. But
Speaker 1: Danny Ainge has a game plan here. The question is
Speaker 1: who's involved in that game plan? Does it include Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell And it doesn't seem like that is the case.
Speaker 1: I think the Knicks were probably on the short list
Speaker 1: here of having the parts to be able to trade
Speaker 1: for Donovan Mitchell, provided you don't have to give up
Speaker 1: our Jay Barrett. But if you have Jalen Brunson or
Speaker 1: Jay Barrett. You have Donovan Mitchell, all right, you've got
Speaker 1: something that's interesting, You become relevant, and you actually have
Speaker 1: players who want to play for New York and I
Speaker 1: think those are players. Jalen Brunson and Donovan Mitchell would
Speaker 1: be players that other players might want to play with.
Speaker 1: Even though the dysfunction at the top of the Knicks organization,
Speaker 1: if the Miami Heater involved in this, it feels like
Speaker 1: the Heat they want either Kevin Durant or Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: Now I know, I don't know what they're going to
Speaker 1: give up because they can't trade Bam out of Bio
Speaker 1: to the Nets for Kevin Durant. You're not allowed to
Speaker 1: do that because the Ben Simmons, you know, the the
Speaker 1: designated contract. So it's you know, it's a little too complex.
Speaker 1: But certain players like Devin Booker can't be traded by
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns to the Brooklyn Nets. Now if you
Speaker 1: trade Ben Simmons, now you're open for business. I don't
Speaker 1: know who wants Ben Simmons right now. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the Nets want Ben Simmons right now. But if
Speaker 1: I'm the Knicks and I can get Donovan Mitchell. It's
Speaker 1: a pretty good, pretty good acquisition depending on what you
Speaker 1: give up. But it just feels like and even the
Speaker 1: deal or they potential for a deal with Golden State
Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant. When we had Brian Winhorst from the
Speaker 1: Mothership on yesterday, you know, you start to look at
Speaker 1: it and go, what's Golden State going to give up?
Speaker 1: And I thought that they might take a run at
Speaker 1: Bradley Beale. I thought, you know what, you got the
Speaker 1: team keeping together, you could win another championship, and why
Speaker 1: not trade some of these younger players get Bradley in.
Speaker 1: If you're Washington, you're not winning anything. If you're Bradley Beale,
Speaker 1: you sign your max deal. Maybe you could go to
Speaker 1: Golden State. Golden State doesn't mind spending money. But Bradley
Speaker 1: Beale not on the move as of yet. But as
Speaker 1: far as KD, if you said to Brooklyn, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you Jonathan Comingah, you know Wiseman, and we
Speaker 1: can give you maybe Jordan Poole, maybe a draft pick
Speaker 1: or two. Can you get Kevin Durant? Does Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: want that? I would be curious. Draymond Green's rolling all
Speaker 1: to this because Draymond had a confrontation with Katie that
Speaker 1: kad acknowledge. He acknowledges that was kind of the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end. But Draymont has been saying a lot
Speaker 1: of nice things. Verbal Bouquets on his podcast about k
Speaker 1: D found that interesting, but as long as he doesn't
Speaker 1: tamper there with Kevin Durant. But you know, maybe once again,
Speaker 1: this speaks to Steph Curry because a lot of players
Speaker 1: get territorial. This is my team now. Duane Wade said,
Speaker 1: this is my team, but I'm going to turn it
Speaker 1: over to Lebron James. And then they won a couple
Speaker 1: of championships. Steph to me said, hey, I want a championship. Here,
Speaker 1: Katie's coming in, come on in. I'm gonna go help
Speaker 1: recruit you. It says a lot about Steph Curry that
Speaker 1: he is willing to do what's best for the team.
Speaker 1: And he did that, what do he do it again?
Speaker 1: And they just want a championship. That's the interesting part
Speaker 1: of the timing of this. I guess you can't say
Speaker 1: it's far fetched. It feels that way, but you know,
Speaker 1: Golden State, when they were bad, they had these draft picks,
Speaker 1: and you know, Cominga could be a star one day.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Wiseman can be. They're playing in
Speaker 1: the summer League. Cominga had thirty the other night. Wiseman,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a mobile, big guy. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: he's a DeAndre Ayton. I don't know. But if you're
Speaker 1: if you're Golden State, you want to run this back again?
Speaker 1: Are you able to do that? Because Draymond Green started
Speaker 1: to show that he's near the end, clay might be
Speaker 1: even better next year. Steph, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much longer he can continue to be Steph
Speaker 1: Curry with the way he plays. So can you bring
Speaker 1: in Katie and make a run at one or two
Speaker 1: more titles here? That would be my would I would
Speaker 1: keep my foot on the accelerator. If I'm Golden State,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting Memphis catch up with me. I'm not
Speaker 1: letting the Lakers, you know, if they get Kyrie. I'm
Speaker 1: not letting Phoenix, and I'm not letting anybody catch up
Speaker 1: to us. And so I would I would certainly explore
Speaker 1: that if if it's really true about Katie, yeah, seton
Speaker 1: and it feels like the emergence of Andrew Wiggins as
Speaker 1: a legit player there maybe extends Steph's career a little bit. Well.
Speaker 1: I love Pool, but Wiggins was a great pick up
Speaker 1: for them, a great fight. I didn't know that he
Speaker 1: would you be able to fit in because former number
Speaker 1: one overall pick, but he did. He'd fit in. He
Speaker 1: played really good defense. It's an interesting team of what
Speaker 1: they do and how they do it. But KD would
Speaker 1: go back in and they wouldn't miss anything because KD
Speaker 1: would do what KD does. But I would not give
Speaker 1: the NBA a chance for anybody to reload, for Miami
Speaker 1: to trade for somebody. You know what's going on with Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: James Harden going back like I don't want any Boston
Speaker 1: they got it, Malcolm Brogden, Okay, let's make the big
Speaker 1: splash here. Let's go for the jugular again. And I
Speaker 1: would definitely explore. You know, it's it's a win now league.
Speaker 1: You know, you talk about draft picks, Okay, they're great,
Speaker 1: but if you don't use them correctly, then you're really
Speaker 1: like Oklahoma City has gotta get this right. Utah getting
Speaker 1: all those first round picks from Minnesota, Okay, they're not
Speaker 1: going to be high draft picks because Minnesota is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be good because he traded away Rudy Gobert. Now
Speaker 1: what do you do with those drafts? They always sound
Speaker 1: good in a trade, like, well, they got first round
Speaker 1: draft picks, and then you go, where are those draft
Speaker 1: picks going to be? Noah twenty seven, twenty eight? Yeah. Point.
Speaker 1: If you look back at Steph Curry's career twenty fifteen season,
Speaker 1: here's thirty points a game and won league MVP, but
Speaker 1: they lost the title. They added Durant, his stats went
Speaker 1: down to twenty five points per game. The next year's
Speaker 1: he won back to back NBA titles. Last year they
Speaker 1: lost the NBA title. Here was thirty two points a
Speaker 1: game and led the league in scoring. They lost. This year,
Speaker 1: his stats were down to twenty five a game and
Speaker 1: they won the title. He doesn't seem like everybody has
Speaker 1: an ego, but it feels like he's able to go.
Speaker 1: You don't come on in, Katie, like, I don't care, Hey,
Speaker 1: Clay's having a great night, get him the ball. I
Speaker 1: don't know, You've got to be selfish, But it feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's unselfish for the for the
Speaker 1: bigger picture, the greater good. And that's why if if
Speaker 1: it's possible to bring in Kevin Durant with an organization
Speaker 1: that doesn't mind spending, you give up a couple of these.
Speaker 1: If you say I give up Wiseman, Cominga and Jordan Poole,
Speaker 1: I'm giving them three starters in Brooklyn, but I'm getting
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. Can I fill in the rest of this?
Speaker 1: Because when the season started, I thought Clay would be better,
Speaker 1: and I thought these younger players would contribute more than
Speaker 1: they did, and they still won the title. So do
Speaker 1: they look at them and say we got to have them?
Speaker 1: And you know, they know how good Cominga is or
Speaker 1: Wiseman is and the role that they're going to play.
Speaker 1: But you know you got young guys here with Clay
Speaker 1: and Steph Draymond. If you're going to run it back,
Speaker 1: then run it back all the way. Go go for
Speaker 1: the title. Don't don't let anybody catch up to you.
Speaker 1: All right, A couple of phone calls in here. Let's
Speaker 1: see Bob in Seattle. Hi, Bob, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 1: But so my first album was Kiss Destroyer way back
Speaker 1: in the day. So I had a question for you.
Speaker 1: Last week, I was on vacation, the family vacation from
Speaker 1: Seattle to Sekoia National Park and we were at this
Speaker 1: picnic table middle of nowhere. There was a few of
Speaker 1: the families were all cooking dinner. Gigantic black bear comes
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and oh my god, it was like
Speaker 1: a Rodney danger Field movie. Big eyes. People were scattered,
Speaker 1: the bear left, and everyone just high tailed the other.
Speaker 1: So my question is, have you ever had a bear
Speaker 1: encount or do we have a dante a bear expert?
Speaker 1: I have a great game, all right. I had a
Speaker 1: bear encounter. I've talked about this a fishing tour that
Speaker 1: I went on British Columbia and I ran into the
Speaker 1: commode bear that looks like an albino bear, but it's
Speaker 1: one of the rarest animals in the world. And I'm
Speaker 1: over on it turned out to be an island and
Speaker 1: we found this bear and this guy was just hunting
Speaker 1: for salmon, and I had I had a camera and
Speaker 1: so I just started taking photos of him. He's far
Speaker 1: away and next thing I know, I'm looking through all
Speaker 1: the photos that I have taken and he walks by
Speaker 1: me and he's probably I'm going to say, eight to
Speaker 1: ten feet away from me, walking right by me, and
Speaker 1: the people I'm with backed up, and they didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: And this bear is ten ft away from me at
Speaker 1: the you know, at the farthest ten feet away, and
Speaker 1: he just stared at me. And I just kept firing
Speaker 1: pictures and I had these unbelievable pictures of this rare animal.
Speaker 1: And then like I'm holding my I literally I'm holding
Speaker 1: my breath. I don't want him to hear me. And
Speaker 1: you know how stupid is that. I mean, he could
Speaker 1: smell me. But he always cared about was the salmon.
Speaker 1: And he went in the salmon or spawning, and he's
Speaker 1: got these big mits, he's got you know, these uh nails,
Speaker 1: these talents. He's like stabbing the salmon as they're going up.
Speaker 1: And I'm going, oh my god, Like, what what's my
Speaker 1: exit strategy? Here? Do I go in the water, because
Speaker 1: I'm figuring he's gonna if he wanted me, he could
Speaker 1: have me. But that was one of those where it's
Speaker 1: you know, coming to Jesus, where you go, oh my God.
Speaker 1: And then I say to the people who were there
Speaker 1: with me, I said, why didn't you tell me? They said,
Speaker 1: we didn't want to disturb the bear. I go, how
Speaker 1: about you disturb me so I can get out of
Speaker 1: the way from this thing. But it's it's a religious
Speaker 1: it's called this spirit bear, commode bear. Yeah, Polly, knowing
Speaker 1: how much you like salmon up there, I'm probably you
Speaker 1: didn't jump in with I thought about that, you guys battling.
Speaker 1: If it was Copper River salmon, then I might have
Speaker 1: gone in there with him. Yeah, you get out of
Speaker 1: the way here, Yes, seton, And your guide said, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing this bear is almost impossible. Ah, that's terrible. I
Speaker 1: give him a break. That's impossible. That's terrible. It's still terrible.
Speaker 1: My guide was Native American, lived there his entire life,
Speaker 1: never in forty seven years of age, had never seen
Speaker 1: the commode bear. He starts crying when he sees the
Speaker 1: commode bear. He can't talk. He's sobbing because he's seen
Speaker 1: this spirit bear, a religious figure to them. But if
Speaker 1: you google it one of the rarest animals in the world.
Speaker 1: And U he could have had me for lunch if
Speaker 1: he wanted to. Yes, time, you were never the salmon again?
Speaker 1: After that? Impossible to be Yeah, we're not. No, no, no.
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Speaker 1: of phone calls before we get to Zach Keefer. He
Speaker 1: covers the Colds and part of a six episode series
Speaker 1: on Andrew Luck on the Athletic. We'll get to him
Speaker 1: in a moment. Jimmy and Indiana joins us on the program. Hi, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Good morning, Dan six foot one.
Speaker 1: Obviously I know what you look like. I listened to
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Speaker 1: on Peacock, so I don't know what the dan ats
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Speaker 1: bad eye. Fritzie. If you are fans of the movie Rocky,
Speaker 1: he looks like but but you do look like Burt Young?
Speaker 1: Really think I look like Burt from Rocky? You don't
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Speaker 1: I think with Richard Gear Yes he is, uh, he's
Speaker 1: the he's his pamp. Yeah, Julian is the Yes. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me make a smooth segue to Zach Kiefer. Zach
Speaker 1: covers the Colts and the NFL for the Athletic and
Speaker 1: the host of the Andrew Luck podcast. It's a six
Speaker 1: part series, six episodes of Luck on the Athletic Football Show,
Speaker 1: feed or wherever you listen to your podcast. How did
Speaker 1: you come up with the the thought of doing this,
Speaker 1: whether you were going to have any cooperation with Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: That's a heck of a segue, Danum, Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1: Why now? Right? Like? Why do this project? And at
Speaker 1: first I kind of resisted it. I didn't I wasn't
Speaker 1: ready to dive back again. I lived all of this
Speaker 1: covering the Colts the last couple of years. But for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One, he's sort of like this
Speaker 1: mysterious figure in Indianapolis. He lives five minutes from the
Speaker 1: teenth facility. The specter of Andrew Luck still hangs over
Speaker 1: this franchise in a way. But you know, you go
Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers, you go to Carson Wentz, you go
Speaker 1: to Matt Ryan, like they haven't found the next guy,
Speaker 1: and he's only thirty two years old, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of what ifs, and to be honest, when you
Speaker 1: dig into it, for a lot of reasons, I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the more interesting stories we've had in
Speaker 1: the NFL in a long time. It's it's incomplete, and
Speaker 1: it's mysterious, and it's surprising, and it's it's just fascinating
Speaker 1: on a lot of levels. What role does Luck play
Speaker 1: in the mystery here of not just disappearing but not
Speaker 1: really commenting on disappearing. Yeah, he's almost like the like
Speaker 1: a big foot in this city. Like if you go back,
Speaker 1: it's it's impossible to understate, like how big of a
Speaker 1: decision it was for Jim Mercy to move on from
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in twenty twelve, And that's one of the
Speaker 1: early episodes. It's like that just wasn't ever supposed to happen,
Speaker 1: and it did. If you're going to move on from
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, you move on for the next Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: right in a lot of ways. And then he was
Speaker 1: done when he was twenty nine years old, and he
Speaker 1: walked away fifteen days before the season. Like I remember
Speaker 1: looking at that at that guy that night, looking in
Speaker 1: his face and thinking what happened? Like how did we
Speaker 1: get here? And that's what we try to answer, like
Speaker 1: how does the best quarterback prospects since John Elway end
Speaker 1: up walking away before he's thirty years old? And what
Speaker 1: happened to him? Since? Have you talked to Luck? Yes,
Speaker 1: we caught up. He's done no interviews since he retired.
Speaker 1: He's like a ghost. Like I said, we've stayed in touch.
Speaker 1: We met, we had coffee for an hour and a half,
Speaker 1: all off the record, So I will honor that he's
Speaker 1: not quoted. You can imagine my disappointment with that. But
Speaker 1: he thought about participating, which would have been a big deal.
Speaker 1: It would have been the first time he's talked since
Speaker 1: he retired. He ultimately declined, But to some degree, it's
Speaker 1: almost better that he's not in the podcast because so
Speaker 1: many people around him. Tell the stories that we never heard.
Speaker 1: What were the warning signs that we should have seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. That's into episodes three four. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to Stanford. So his first start as
Speaker 1: a quarterback, David Shaw's his offensive coordinator. In his first play,
Speaker 1: he scrambles out of a pocket and instead of ducking
Speaker 1: out of bounds like a lot of quarterbacks, he drives
Speaker 1: his throwing shoulder into the safety, gets two yards, and
Speaker 1: he runs off the field and Shaw's live it and
Speaker 1: Luck says, I know, I know, I know, but I
Speaker 1: just had to do it. I just had to get
Speaker 1: one hit in coach. That's how he played like. That's
Speaker 1: how he played the rest of his career. And there
Speaker 1: was a lot of joy to his game early. I
Speaker 1: mean he was running straight into linebackers and then picking
Speaker 1: them up off the field right getting sacked by defensive
Speaker 1: lineman and saying, great hit. Like these defenders thought this
Speaker 1: was a mind game. Like he was just different. But
Speaker 1: that beat and that physical punishment he took, and the
Speaker 1: fact that the Colts never got him a good offensive line,
Speaker 1: the signs were there. I remember so many hits he
Speaker 1: would take. The press box would the press box would
Speaker 1: just gasp, like you just don't see quarterbacks take those
Speaker 1: kind of hits. There was one game he took a
Speaker 1: shot to his ribs and it lacerated his kidney, which
Speaker 1: is an accident that usually happens when you're in a
Speaker 1: car crash. And he woke up the next day and
Speaker 1: he was pein blood. So the warning signs were certainly there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look at it, and I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: ever pointed fingers here whether and you can't say this
Speaker 1: if he said it privately off the record, but you know,
Speaker 1: the snowboarding accident, the way he played, Yes, they didn't
Speaker 1: protect him. And I used to rail on the Colts.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, you got to protect him,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't protecting himself. And I don't think he's
Speaker 1: ever pointed any fingers a blame or has he that
Speaker 1: maybe I've missed here. Yeah, no, that's that's a big
Speaker 1: part of this. Like, no, they didn't protect him, but
Speaker 1: he played like a linebacker and he's a tough, big dude. Right,
Speaker 1: could have played tight end, could have played linebacker, but
Speaker 1: like you can't do that. And so I have teammates
Speaker 1: that are saying you know, like every time he took
Speaker 1: a hit, like we cringe, like we knew if he
Speaker 1: goes down, if the season's over. And there's a really
Speaker 1: revealing moment in the podcast where I asked David Shaw
Speaker 1: and he's really close to Luck to this day, one
Speaker 1: of the few people that's really inside that circle, and
Speaker 1: I said, did the Colts protect Andrew Luck the right way?
Speaker 1: Did they build around him the right way? And Shaw says,
Speaker 1: and he's a coach for twenty years, he says, that's
Speaker 1: the most loaded question I've ever been asked in my life.
Speaker 1: And then he answered me and he said, during those
Speaker 1: early years in Indie, he would ask Luck and Lands
Speaker 1: would never publicly criticized anybody that just wasn't his thing,
Speaker 1: but privately with Shaw, Shaw would be like, what do
Speaker 1: you need? Man? He's like, I need a running back
Speaker 1: like they had They went five years without a hundred
Speaker 1: yard rush five years, and he needed an offensive line.
Speaker 1: So it's twofold Andrew's not absolved a blame in this,
Speaker 1: And then then the series gets into that, I mean,
Speaker 1: he played reckless football, and he played it. He paid
Speaker 1: a really dear price. He had the foot ankle injury,
Speaker 1: a week before, Like, wait, have I guess did that
Speaker 1: speed up the process of him saying, you know, I
Speaker 1: just don't want to go through this anymore? Or what
Speaker 1: role did that play? That's the weirdest thing in all this,
Speaker 1: Like can I be honest? Like nobody retires from a
Speaker 1: calf injury? Like what Like this dude made it back
Speaker 1: from shoulder hell, Like his throwing shoulder he played on
Speaker 1: for three years, the labor was torn, Like that's serious pain.
Speaker 1: He played through a lacerated kidney and beat the best
Speaker 1: defensive football one year and a caff injury is what
Speaker 1: does it? But you know that's really what episode six
Speaker 1: is about, is like after the shoulder and after he
Speaker 1: made it back, everything was different. He saw the game differently,
Speaker 1: and I think when he looked ahead and he saw
Speaker 1: more rehab and more mistime and more hell which he
Speaker 1: lived through. I think he chose his mental health above
Speaker 1: everything else. And it's an extremely polarizing decision in this
Speaker 1: city to this day. How is he viewed better now?
Speaker 1: People have gotten over it now the feedback from from
Speaker 1: this podcast has stirred that back up. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that retired fifteen days before the season opener.
Speaker 1: The Colts didn't have a plan. Well, they don't boot
Speaker 1: him that night when Schefter had the report and he's
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and it breaks during a preseason game
Speaker 1: and they started booing him. It's surreal. Yeah, the face
Speaker 1: of the franchise, the guy you moved on from Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning four is booed off the field. They need to
Speaker 1: get him back to Lucasoil Stadium and they need to
Speaker 1: celebrate him the right way. And I think Jimmer said,
Speaker 1: the owner wants to do that. But like I said,
Speaker 1: there's this specter. I mean, this guy lives five minutes
Speaker 1: from the team facility. And when I met with them,
Speaker 1: you know, we had this great conversation. I remember looking
Speaker 1: at him and thinking, you're still thirty two years old,
Speaker 1: Like you could go play tomorrow, and he's not going
Speaker 1: to He's not going to come back. I never thought that.
Speaker 1: But it's just really strange that this unfolded the way
Speaker 1: it did, and it just kind of feels unfinished in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. The role of being a dad,
Speaker 1: what role did that play in all of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he essentially became a full time dad. You know, imagine
Speaker 1: walking away from football, which is a twelve hours a
Speaker 1: day job every day of the year, right, and then
Speaker 1: they have a baby a couple of months later. So
Speaker 1: he's really throwing himself into that, and we're starting to
Speaker 1: see him come out publicly a little bit more. I
Speaker 1: think there was and this is my word, I think
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of shame on his part
Speaker 1: the way his retirement happen. Then when it happened, we
Speaker 1: didn't see him. He was like a ghost for like
Speaker 1: two and a half years. I would get text messages
Speaker 1: and people would would say, I saw him at the grocery.
Speaker 1: He's alive. I saw him at this coffee shop like
Speaker 1: it was like Bigfoot. And he's starting to come out
Speaker 1: a little bit more and a little bit more. I
Speaker 1: think he's at peace with everything. It was hard at
Speaker 1: first though. Why did he Why did he stay in Indianapolis?
Speaker 1: Great question. He loves it here. He loves it here.
Speaker 1: His wife has a great job. They love they love
Speaker 1: the food, they love the people. They love the fact
Speaker 1: that he can sort of blend in a little bit.
Speaker 1: People don't bug him. When we had coffee. You know,
Speaker 1: a couple of people, you know double take, like, is
Speaker 1: that Andrew Luck? Is that really him and they would
Speaker 1: come up to the table and he was great. He
Speaker 1: was great with them, So I think he's comfortable here.
Speaker 1: But isn't that telling? I mean, you walk away from
Speaker 1: a team at twenty nine and you stay in the city,
Speaker 1: and not just that you live a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: from the team facility. Great stuff, Zach, good luck with it,
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan. That's Zach Keefer. He covers the Colts and
Speaker 1: the NFL for the Athletic and get all six episodes
Speaker 1: of Luck on the Athletic Football Show feed or wherever
Speaker 1: you listen to podcast. Oh great mystery, But there have
Speaker 1: been mysteries, and that's you're not sure how somebody's wired.
Speaker 1: And you know, we try to read into this, you
Speaker 1: try to read into Okay, what makes Kyrie tick? I
Speaker 1: have no idea? And I think the less time you
Speaker 1: spend on that, the more sane you're going to be,
Speaker 1: because when you're trying to figure out somebody who may
Speaker 1: not even know themselves who they are, Like, what motivates
Speaker 1: KD right now? What motivates Kyrie? You don't know? And
Speaker 1: I think that's the fascination. Calvin Johnson Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: I'm done had problems with the organization, and they, I think,
Speaker 1: still want their signing bonus back. And then you get
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady can't quit. He can't quit. You
Speaker 1: these guys could walk away. I mean tom Brady's what
Speaker 1: thirteen years older than Andrew Lucky. He's crazy, But how
Speaker 1: you're wired what's important. And Andrew Luck always struck me
Speaker 1: as he plays football and he's really good at it,
Speaker 1: but maybe there's something more to him. And I think
Speaker 1: he's got a degree in architecture and he went to
Speaker 1: Stanford and he's a bright guy. And you walk away
Speaker 1: and you become a full time dad. I mean, good
Speaker 1: for him, But to stay there is what I find
Speaker 1: fascinating out of all of this. That he walked away
Speaker 1: at twenty nine but stayed in Indianapolis. That would be
Speaker 1: where I would go. I can't stay here. I just
Speaker 1: they're gonna be me as a quitter. I quit on
Speaker 1: their team fifteen days before the start of the season.
Speaker 1: But he stayed and he lives right by the training facility.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating. Yeah, play and I can see sports fans
Speaker 1: in Anneapolis being hesitant to walk up to him because
Speaker 1: what would you say, Hey, I was a big fan, okay,
Speaker 1: more than and then of course the questions about him
Speaker 1: playing again you can't ask and you don't want to
Speaker 1: ask him. What else you gonna talk about? It's gonna
Speaker 1: be very intimidating to like see him and want to
Speaker 1: get an autograph for our picture. And he doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like an intimidating guy. But I think it would feel awkward.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the right word. Yeah, yeah, because you're not
Speaker 1: quite sure if you say, hey, really loved what you did, Uh,
Speaker 1: any chance you'd come back to play? Yeah? See, maybe
Speaker 1: he's like super involved in the PTO of his like
Speaker 1: souls kids and you know what I mean, this kid's
Speaker 1: school rather well PTA. Yeah, well Pete, we have PTO PTA.
Speaker 1: Oh you teacher organizations? Oh yeah, yeah, trying to get
Speaker 1: the drop off line figured out, like all of those
Speaker 1: like mundane day to day tasks of like we gotta
Speaker 1: get you know, Officer James out here in control and traffic.
Speaker 1: We gotta speed this up a little bit. Here you
Speaker 1: have the buses going in this way, the parents coming
Speaker 1: on the other side. Come on, guys, you ever go
Speaker 1: to one of those elementary school like dad's clubs meetings
Speaker 1: they have this in my town that the local school
Speaker 1: district has like a dad's club and you get together.
Speaker 1: They playing like a pancake breakfast or blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I'm basketball tournaments. So I my wife quotes, you should
Speaker 1: go to one of these things. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: it's not really my thing. I see the agenda. It
Speaker 1: looked like like a NATO meeting. It had like twenty
Speaker 1: different things on it. Then I go to the house.
Speaker 1: It was thirteen dudes in a basement drinking chorus light
Speaker 1: and watching sports like that, and they no one ever
Speaker 1: got to the agenda items. It was actually pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It was like a big front for drinking beer and
Speaker 1: hanging out. Excuse me, guys, I've got some line items here.
Speaker 1: Just quickly, the cookie dough fundraiser who wants to organize
Speaker 1: helthy snacks, healthy snacks, take a break. Welcome back, more
Speaker 1: phone calls, and we'll talk to the Dodgers skipper Dave
Speaker 1: Roberts back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. What
Speaker 1: better setting for the one hundred and fiftieth Open Championship
Speaker 1: then at the Old Course at Saint Andrew's birthplace of golf,
Speaker 1: the Open Championship. You can see it today tomorrow Saturday,
Speaker 1: seven a. I'm Eastern on NBC and Peacock when people
Speaker 1: watch the Open Championship, and there's certain golf courses that
Speaker 1: have this, but at the Old Course at Saint Andrew's
Speaker 1: there are a couple of greens that they'll share, so
Speaker 1: I think the second and the sixteenth there is a
Speaker 1: shared green, So it's weird when you play it like here,
Speaker 1: the greens are huge, so you're up there and You're like,
Speaker 1: somebody's over there putting on the back nine and you're
Speaker 1: over here putting on the front nine. Yeah, Paul, which
Speaker 1: hole is it that has the hotel to the right. Seventeen? Okay,
Speaker 1: they showed it today, and you know, I've seen it before,
Speaker 1: but I don't think i've seen the camera. They showed
Speaker 1: a camera from the tea box. It looked like like
Speaker 1: a mismanagement of funds, like they dropped a hotel in
Speaker 1: where you have to bend the shot or up and
Speaker 1: around an actual hotel. Yeah, he got fascinating. You've got
Speaker 1: to go over the corner of it, Yes, and you're there,
Speaker 1: so you play. When you play that hole, you have
Speaker 1: to play it all the way back just to get
Speaker 1: the experience of it. Like eighteen is not a tough hole.
Speaker 1: Seventeen it's like there's a damn hotel right in front
Speaker 1: of me. You know, It's one thing if you have
Speaker 1: trees and limbs and things like that, or water, this
Speaker 1: is a hotel and you got to hit it over
Speaker 1: the hotel. We got the golf simulator on Saint Andrew's today.
Speaker 1: By the way, I think I may get the driver
Speaker 1: out here. Get the driver out and peppered a little
Speaker 1: bit here Andrew and Washington. Hi Andrew, welcome back. What
Speaker 1: do you have for me today? Hey, good morning guys,
Speaker 1: Dan and Danett. Thank you so much. I do think
Speaker 1: that after checking out your online store, there might be
Speaker 1: a new chant at Jets home games this year. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that maybe one of those new shirts could
Speaker 1: be sent to your buddy rich Eisen, who is a
Speaker 1: fanatical Jets fan. He might want to wear one of those.
Speaker 1: But I do enjoy this week. This is the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panther week. I think it's over now, and but I
Speaker 1: did enjoy all the talk about Baker Mayfield and looking
Speaker 1: forward to September eleventh when they do play the Brown
Speaker 1: so um. On that note, I had to refine it
Speaker 1: and redo it as you took it. But I do
Speaker 1: have a stat of the day, all right, and here
Speaker 1: we go, Die die shoe. Hey. Otani had twelve strikeouts
Speaker 1: from sixteen ings and it went against the Astros last night.
Speaker 1: Otani's one hundred and twenty three strikeout for the season
Speaker 1: put him in the top ten for the year, and
Speaker 1: he now leads to majors with eight point two strikeouts
Speaker 1: per start. Die all righty Angels struck out seventeen times,
Speaker 1: the Astros struck out fifteen times, and yes, the combined
Speaker 1: thirty two strikeouts an American League record for a nine
Speaker 1: inning game. Congratulations Doug in North Carolina. High Doug Woods
Speaker 1: on your mind. Damn, I want to give you against
Speaker 1: the Grain on the Sun Live Golf a tour thing,
Speaker 1: and it's similar what you guys were just talking about
Speaker 1: a moment ago. This weekend I had a chance to
Speaker 1: watch YouTube video of a part three hole in South Africa,
Speaker 1: which is actually six hundred yards and to get from
Speaker 1: tee to green, the tea is on a cliff and
Speaker 1: the green is below it, you have to take a helicopter.
Speaker 1: And I watched this and said, this is exactly what
Speaker 1: the live tour should be doing. They should be finding
Speaker 1: unique holes all over the country. When you watch the
Speaker 1: British Open, it's the course that's the start. It's not Rory,
Speaker 1: it's not Tiger. When you watch the Masters, it's Augusta
Speaker 1: that's the star. And when I watched the Live in London,
Speaker 1: I can't remember when hole they played in London. I
Speaker 1: can't remember when Holey played in Portland. They should have
Speaker 1: went on after the golf courses instead of the golfers
Speaker 1: and it would have been more compelling TV. All right, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Doug. You know the problem with that is
Speaker 1: finding these golf courses and can you televise from those
Speaker 1: golf courses to show people the you know, who are
Speaker 1: curious about See. I always love seeing a course that
Speaker 1: I've never seen before, and uh, you know, just I
Speaker 1: can kind of file it away. And there are a
Speaker 1: lot of courses I haven't played. But when you see
Speaker 1: those unique courses, and Doug's right, when you go to
Speaker 1: Scotland or you play bally Bunyan, uh you play the
Speaker 1: old you know, played the old course. The course and
Speaker 1: the surroundings are what makes it unique. But to find
Speaker 1: enough unique golf courses around the world that will allow
Speaker 1: you to host a tournament and can you bring in TV.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things that go into it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there when you watch the Masters, that golf
Speaker 1: course is the star. Rory finished up at five under.
Speaker 1: I think he's tied for second right now. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: that that golf hole he's talking about, it was a
Speaker 1: par three. It's at the Legend Golf and Safari Resort
Speaker 1: in South Africa. It's not an actual played hole. It's
Speaker 1: almost like a kind of uh they call it extreme
Speaker 1: nineteenth hole. It's around a safari preserve. You take a
Speaker 1: you go up through a safari and see elephants and tigers.
Speaker 1: Then you go, Now, if they were on the course
Speaker 1: with me, and that would be interesting. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like if you had a lion chasing you put a
Speaker 1: little chum behind the golfers, spice it up a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, so this course, uh, you're on a cliff
Speaker 1: and you four hundred yards below off the cliff is
Speaker 1: a par three and then they pick you up in
Speaker 1: a helicopter after your t shot and bring it down
Speaker 1: to It's kind of a novelty thing. It's not for
Speaker 1: the weekend warrior. Yeah, hey guys, let's go like we
Speaker 1: think the island green and of you know TPC. That's
Speaker 1: a novelty. This is a real novel in the helicopter pilot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Three more God Bob and Montana Hi Bob would show
Speaker 1: on your mind today A DP Pink Floyd A Delicate
Speaker 1: Sound of Thunder was my first album. But hey, back
Speaker 1: in eighty three, Kareem had a fire at his home
Speaker 1: and loss about three thousand of his jad Or jazz records,
Speaker 1: and the world came together that day and people from
Speaker 1: all over started mailing their records. So in that spirit,
Speaker 1: I would be honored to mail you a few for
Speaker 1: my collection to help you start rebuilding your own collection. No,
Speaker 1: but thank you, Bob. That's it's a wonderful gesture on
Speaker 1: your part. But I can never get back the albums
Speaker 1: that I sold, so you could supplement that with other albums,
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's not the number. It was what
Speaker 1: I had in my album collection. Tim and Florida. Hi Tim,
Speaker 1: Hey Tim. Thanks Tim. We'll get some more phone calls
Speaker 1: coming up. Final hour. I'm always care when you call in,
Speaker 1: what are you doing when you call in? And then
Speaker 1: what happens after that because I don't get to you
Speaker 1: right away. I mean some of these guys have been
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