1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Disinformed, a mini series from There Are 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: No Girls on the Internet. I'm Bridget Todd, So I 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: usually try to avoid calling out specific bad actors who 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: spread myths and disinformation because I think of it as 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: a systemic problem. It isn't usually about one specific person 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: spreading bad information, and I want to make sure we 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: keep the focus on the people and institutions with power 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: who could actually do something about it, like tech leaders 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: and policymakers. But that said, I have someone who I 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: kind of think of as my misinformation white whale that 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I just had to talk about today, and that person 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: is Gwyneth Paltrow. So here's what's going down. Mecca is 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: kind of like Australia's Sephora. It's a huge retailer that 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: sells beauty and wellness products. But all was not well 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: last week when they announced that Gwyneth Paltrow would be 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the keynote speaker for their virtual summit Mecca Life. Mecca 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: customers were not pleased, and many of them took to 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: social media to let the brand know. Paltrow and goog 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: pedal enormous amounts of misinformation and make money by praying 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: on women's insecurities. Surgeon and author Nicki Stamp wrote on 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the events Facebook page, every time we endorse his behavior, 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: we allow it to continue. Mecca has always been a 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: champion for women, So now, when women are at risk, 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: will you step up to the plate and cancel this 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: terrible event or will you let Australian women be further 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: exposed to her nonsense. Mecca is not backing down. Beauty 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: and wellness mean different things to different people. Our schedule 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: of events to launch Mecca Life has been carefully curated 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: to offer something new, interesting and innovative for everyone, they 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: said in a statement online. Mecca turned off the comments 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: on their social media posts, which is always how you 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: know stuff that's gotten really tense. Now, even though I 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: loved her as Margot Tannenbaum from The Royal Tannon Bombs, 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: what what if Paltrow was doing is really gross and 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: we hardly ever point out how gross it actually is. 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Because she's rich and famous with her wellness brand Goop, 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Paltrow has preyed on women's insecurities to make money by 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: peddling so called cures that are dubious at best and 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: dangerous at worse. Here's a very short list of some 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: of the nonsense she's peddled on her site. She said 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: that fasting and herbs could help alleviate the symptoms of COVID, 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: and eventually the National Health Service had to ask her 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: to stop spreading COVID misinformation. A piece on Goop says 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: that Gwyneth swears by a practice called grounding or earthing, 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: which is basically just walking around barefoot outside to cure depression, 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: which I find so offensive and I think anybody who's 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: ever suffered her many kind of mental health issue probably 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: would too. She promotes the healing powers of national steaming, 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: which gynecologist Dr Jen Gunter, one of my favorite medical 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: misinformation slayers, points out in her book The Vagina Bible 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: has No Benefit, promotes a serious misunderstanding of anatomy and physiology, 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: and has the potential to harm. So in short, it's 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: a scape him. Not only that, but it could actually 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: hurt your vagina. A woman in Canada had to be 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: treated for second degree burns to her cervix and national 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: membranes after trying to steam her own v Please do 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: not do that to your vagina out and never forget 58 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: that when it first got into the wellness world, by 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: selling jade eggs for people to shove up their vaginas 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: for a whopping seventy dollars a pop under the completely 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: untrue claim that doing so could help balance your hormones. 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: And this is really my thing. As you can probably 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: see from When's obsession with our vaginas, her brand is 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: clearly about convincing women that something is wrong with our bodies. 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: And Goop is a for profit company, meaning she makes 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: money off of trying to convince us that we need 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: to do whatever nonsense thing or buy whatever nonsense products 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: she's selling to fix it. It's not just dangerous, it's 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: also wildly anti feminist. Your body is fine, Your vagina 70 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: is fine, trust me, it does not need to be steamed. 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, this is not about me 72 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: not liking woo woo wellness stuff. Honestly, I wish I 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: could say I was too cool to be taken by 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: useless tincture as I see on Instagram ads like I 75 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: put mushroom Anthogin's in my tea every morning to boost 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: my focus. Does it work? Probably not. But there's a 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: big difference between being open to alternative wellness treatments and 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: straight up profiting off of misinformation, and that's what Gwyneth 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Paltrow is doing. In addition to her editorial website Goop 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: and selling merchandise, Gwen has a Netflix show called The 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Goop Lab and an all inclusive luxury cruise called Goop 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: at Sea, which promises guests the opportunity to engage with 83 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow and Q and A's with their very best healers. 84 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much it costs, but I 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: can just tell by looking at the website it's probably 86 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: not cheap. So Gwen has turned to misinformation into a 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: huge empire. But women deserve better than having someone pedal 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: lies about our bodies to make a quick buck. And honestly, 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: I am so happy to see so many women in 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Australia making their voices heard and say they don't want 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to support a brand like Mecca that would associate with 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: someone who is basically just a very well dressed scammer. 93 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: If a brand is okay with the kind of bs 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: that Gwenna SELLI that brand should not be considered reputable. 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: We deserve better than someone making money off align to 96 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: us and calling an empowerment just because Gwyneth Paltrow was 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: an A list celebrity who exudes a kind of unattainable 98 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: yet effortless glow. Doesn't mean that she's still not just 99 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: a scammer. And I hope what we're seeing in Australia 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: means today is today that people stop tolerating it and 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: start calling it out for what it is. Great news, Tan, goodie, fam. 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: We won a Shorty Award for Best Podcast Mini Series. 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Major shout outs to my amazing and producers. Sorry Jonathan 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: and Mike, And not to get too sappy, but I 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: want to genuinely thank you, Yes you person listening in 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: the car, or listening in the gym, or listening on 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: the trainer or whatever. 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