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Now your hosts Barry Church, Heckma Harrison to 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.520 Montrey Moore and new he Scruggs. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.839 It is time for the players Lounes right up in 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.519 here on a very cold day here or Texas be 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.360 like we are Barry's hometown. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.120 Golden the mother man not ready for all this, but 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:47.240 the parts. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.000 I find all the free stuff I didn't have through 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.000 the years and put it on. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.560 What you got, you got like four different schools. Man 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.200 knows no just three three loyal He knows no bounce 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:08.880 the loyalty knows freet braids up Topma May Pembroke, got 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.440 fable state on the bottom. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:16.040 You my sister, My dad went to They got got 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.160 an A and M baseball coach from a man Jeff 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.080 Slas Nagga before he left for Texas. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.160 He has on A and M jacket right now. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.800 So I got outs last who got I need some 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.240 new Texas to so over there so and and then 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.039 then I got a little TCU baseball. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.840 Sure my boy. 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.000 Hey man, it's free and it's cold, so you layer up. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.080 That is the key to this well, one thing I 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.640 learned living in Cleveland. The key just is uh layering up. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.400 So cowboys just to coaches came by this week here 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:53.280 it starts. We got to talk a little everybody. Maddy 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.720 Flues was the guyybody wanted to everybody wanted a piece. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.280 Of flu smll. He's that guy. Here's that god. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:05.560 I'm just saying, defensively, defensively, come on, let us get 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:05.840 through it. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.880 Tried to get through trying to sell us on Mazsi 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.280 Smith did it? No whit? 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.520 Whoa tell me more? Coaches is trying to sell us 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:13.800 on mar Come on. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.400 So what's what's the new scheme for young Mazie. What 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.079 are they gonna do different that hadn't been done? No, no, no, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.959 no no no no no where no We're no where. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:27.000 We're going somewhere. We're going somewhere, stay with somewhere. What 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.839 you got explained to the people. Don't know what what 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.000 could have could era fluse? What could the plan be 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.480 for young young Maazi? 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:44.360 Oh that them boys and got some Hopio nah boys 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.040 and got some hope, A fresh batch ol fresh batch. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:53.800 Shot, passed it all out. Pas came down with some opio. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.359 The whole crew all the time. If I came in 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.919 with the hopeing, woe, Jerry with the work got shot. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.280 Everybody everybody got that hopeing. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.040 And so so they're they're hoping for good things for 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:05.760 Mossie Smith. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.800 They're hoping anything they can they can get something out 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:08.520 of out of Mossie. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.840 So I will say this, in my opinion, this is 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.040 the right thing to do and come out and say 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.200 everything needs to be one positive right now, Everything needs 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:20.840 to be positive. Like hey man, players are in the 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.600 building right now. There it's their time where they get 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.799 to be, be where they're gonna be. We talk to 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.600 guys on the phone. They're looking at tapes, point of attack, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.639 you know. With the linebacker coach, I look at point 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.320 of attack. But he wants to work with the guys. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.920 So I asked, even if you got what you need, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.360 does the carpenter have his tools? 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.600 That's where he's going. I danced around. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.920 Everybody would dancing everybody, nobody, nobody, Hey, look, nobody was 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:54.280 trying to commit to nothing to nobody, you know. So yeah, 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.440 but they they they they're trying to talk to you 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.640 like Mozzie's got something. You know they got going Yeah, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.080 so I mean barring an inspirational speech from. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.600 Your uncle Joe Green. I don't I don't know what 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.160 they're gonna do. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.720 But but hey, once again, in defense of the coaches, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.760 this is what you should be saying. Don't come out 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.000 making any declarate like your boy Rob Ryan when he 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.679 come in here, saying all this little tough, tough crazy 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.960 stuff like you know, y'all. In some ways it was 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.440 gonna let it play out. But they got good things 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.279 to say about people. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.640 Louck. I am not one of those ready to just 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.800 discount and throw Mazzi away. I'm not not. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.720 He's the first round pick. He's going to be here, 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.040 year three, he's going to be here. And it's another system, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:40.760 but it's number three, lady. But Mazi needs help, and 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.800 friends and other people throw bodies at the position. If 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.600 you want to help. Mattyberfluse to me, heck Mayrison, Barry 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.360 Church and he scruts players line in fighte you by 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.800 subscrict game. You need bodies thrown at that position. The 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.320 Philadelphia Eagles showed you that when they won the Super Bowl. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.400 Get you get your best out of your defensive line, 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.480 and all the defensive lines I've played with, you had 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.719 a healthy rotation. You had a couple of guys that 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.840 are past rush specialists that'll come in there third down 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.640 we call NASCAR packages. Then you have guys that they're 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.839 special Their special ability is to hold down the four. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.080 They can handle double teams, make sure nobody gets to 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.279 that second level, and you rotate those pieces going throughout 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.839 the season. You get the most out of the office 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.359 or defensive line. Now, when it comes to Mazzie Stiff, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:21.680 I like the positivity. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.320 I like, you know, feeding your players positivity, getting their 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.560 confidence in the right direction going into this offseason. And 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.000 he has played better, you know than when he first 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:32.640 started out. You know, he was getting tossed out the 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.120 club from that Seattle game to you know, these past 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.840 couple of games this season, he's playing I'm not gonna 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.720 say he's playing elite, but he's been playing better. So 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.080 to me, you can get you can get some more 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.080 out of Mizzi Smith, and I believe ebra Blouse is 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:47.640 the type of guy that can get the most out 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:48.680 of Mozzi Smith out there. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.440 But when you talk about you need friends in there 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.719 as well. You can't just put it all on him. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.679 He can't be that guy. That's like, all right, Masi, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.960 it's up to you and the crew to get things done. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.280 Now, you gotta have somebody that can go along with them, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.120 play those stunts with him, and that's how I think 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.200 you get the most out of a Mizzi Smith, And 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.240 hopefully that's where this defense goes into the offseason. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.240 I don't think you're going to bring back a guy 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.440 like a The Geezooo. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.160 I think he might, you know, price his way out 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.760 and he get a bear contract somewhere else. But you 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.520 need somebody with that type of skill set to match 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.560 next to Mizsi Smith, in my opinion, to get the 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.000 most out of them. You just can't put it all 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.880 on him and say, Mazsi hold down the four and 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.400 make sure nobody goes up this middle, because we've seen 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.600 when that's the case, this team gets gashed. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.599 Like, let's just be honest, okay, And we've dealt with 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.760 this being this going into our third season, and what 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.279 you said about this scheme, the third scheme for him, 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.320 they're gonna be built in excuses for Mazie. But the 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.640 truth is, and as you know, Bear's gonna come down 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.240 to where you were drafted, and if you're a first 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.640 round draft pick, the responsibility and the onus is going 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.479 to be ratcheted up times tense. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.440 He hasn't lived up to that, And. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.640 I mean, and so playing better is just playing decent 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.120 and that doesn't fit the first round grade that you have, right, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.760 and so that's unacceptable. And we've had defensive court say, okay, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.640 he's not a two gap guy, so we can't use him. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.440 He's gonna be a penetrate Nascar guy. Okay, he doesn't 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.720 fit that either. And so we've seen the different combinations 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.640 of the way that they want to use him, and 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.720 it hasn't been effective whatsoever. It to me is an 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:19.120 attitude adjustment that has to happen. And maybe outside of 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.480 a speech from Joe Green, you know, outside of you know, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.240 injecting some new blood in him, outside of bringing in 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.480 players that get those competitive fires and juices going for Mazzie, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.360 I don't see it being anything different. I mean, and 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.040 I understand for a coach eber Flus, he can't come 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.080 out and say, oh man, we're looking for ways to 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.160 get rid. You know, he can't do that. He has 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.160 to go who he has. But truthfully, if he's looking 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.520 at last year's tape like I'm looking at last year's tape, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.760 he said, oh my god, we got a problem, okay, 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.280 and we have to find a way even rotationally, to 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.400 get in guys that at least can get Mazi's attention. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.040 Because even when you bought in a Linvall Joseph, he 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.600 wasn't even in enough shape to push for the star position. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.480 He wasn't either, So you bought in guys like Carlos 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.120 Watkins that came in later that gave you some some 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:11.320 pushing and filled in minutes. But still these are seedless 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.640 guys at this point in time in their careers, and 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.840 you can't be expecting to play an A list guy 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.880 and Mozzie Smith and allow him to fail continuously because 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.800 of where you're drafted him. And that's what we've been 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.640 living and dying with on Sundays with him. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:31.400 So I think for Cowboy fans, it's time to just 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.280 make sure this will not be Warren Sap, because Maddie 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.960 reflues who loves a three technique. This is not This 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.280 ain't war Sapped, This won't be Joe Green, this won't 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.120 be John Ramley. He's not that guy. He will not 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.920 be Russell Maryland. That's not what Mosie Smith is going 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.440 to be. He's going to be a part of the group, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.240 as you talked about it here, part of a rotation. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.640 You know, if he's thinking of Jackson five, he's Tito. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:59.679 It had guitars, smile, somebody else got hes got to 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:00.000 be Jane. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:01.960 He just gonna be Keito. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.000 And if he's Tito a part of a rotation that works, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.240 and yeah, he had a first round grade and he 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.600 could just make some contributions, then that's. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.480 What you should realistically expect. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.760 But don't look for him to be the next Pro 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.439 Bowl player that that Will Smith draft. I mean Will Will, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.200 but Clay drafted and that's that's okay. I can live 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.600 with that. Can you just be a contributor on Sundays, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.360 a part of a bigger rotation that works. He will 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.200 not be Jalen Carter. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.400 Of the Eagles. Okay, that's all right. Can you be 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.120 a junior Vince Wilford? Maybe that could help. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:44.040 That could help, But but I just think it's it's 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.319 time to just say, hey, man, in the third system, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.400 maybe everybody goes, look, man, you go down the list. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.520 I tell your body, go go go back and look 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.520 at any draft class from four years ago. Half these 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.360 dudes don't make it. Half of them, A good quarter. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:09:59.400 Of them do. 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.560 But it's just that way. And when you get he 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.120 can still be a contributory. That's my thing. He can 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.559 still be a contributory here. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.280 I just feel like when you get it wrong in 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.760 the first round, because those guys are the ones that 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.400 you are saying off the bus guys they have to 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:15.920 they have to. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.960 They have to play because of the way that they're paid. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.840 And when you the last two years, you've reached on picks, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.160 and those picks have cost you production wise. If you 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.079 look around the other thirty one teams, their first rounders 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.520 are typically day one guys. They're playing, they're producing, whether 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.079 you know. If they're not, that's when you start to 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.400 get the whispers of bus guy's not working out, we're 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.320 looking at other places. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.120 And especially when you get to the third year. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.040 After this year, there's gonna be no more discussion, y'all know, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.760 come on now, that's fine, this is it, This is 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.360 it okay. And if you can't and if you're saying 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:52.400 you're tito, if Tito fifth round. Tito's a sixth round guy, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:53.880 all right, Tito ain't. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:59.600 The first round guy. It is. We're living we're living 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:00.719 in it right now. Yes, sir. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.760 A guy you covered in high school who's a really 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.160 good player, Solomon Thomas. I was just having a conversation 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.640 with something about Tolomon Thomas the other day and it's like, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.840 you know what, man, you remember Solomon Thomas coming out 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:15.280 of all American players. Stanford was number two three pick 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.640 in the draft. Never that guy. He's still in the league, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.600 played with the Jets last year. Still he's a good player. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.600 He's Tito, part of rotation. It can happen. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.840 But he found he found a niche he found what 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.240 it was that was going to keep him in the NFL. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.320 Have we found that? Has Mazzi found that? Is he 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.040 that run stuffer? Is he the guy that presents pressure 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.120 in the passing game? Which one is it? Because I 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.120 didn't found that yet. I love I love that you 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.520 asked a question. This is the job of this coaching staff. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:48.760 Figure it out. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.080 And when you look at Flus's defenses, even when he 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.160 was here in Dallas to Indianapolis to Chicago, his defense, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.320 especially the fronts, have always been big movement fronts like 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.160 gash and penetration. We're gonna run stunts to where that 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.800 defensive tackle got to cross the face and. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.440 A linebacker scrape over top of them. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.839 Do we think that's in Mozzie's game to be able 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.600 to cross gaps and go from my responsibilities to. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:11.920 B gap and two gaps? 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:12.040 You. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.840 I don't believe. So nothing. And that's the thing that 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.959 kind of worries me. I don't believe. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.280 He's the he's that type of player where he can 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.079 do a lot of movement and a lot of penetration. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.199 I think he's better suited as a guy that's let 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.280 me hunker down, make sure these guys don't get to 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.240 the second level and use my strength and if the 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.760 play comes to me, I can make it. But I 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.839 don't think he's a guy that, okay, let me two 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.720 gap here, ab oh, he went to a gap, let 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:34.880 me shit and make the play. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.960 I don't see that because when we talked about Afflusi's defense, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.320 he comes from a marinelly tree. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.920 So it's always about loafing running to the football eleven guys. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.679 It's not just one guy. Do we see Mizzie Smith 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.880 is being that hustler, that guy that you penetrates rundown 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:49.360 You don't. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.120 I don't see that. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:56.480 And so therefore, if that is the case, free agency. Okay, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.560 salary caps going on, I could be wrong. Move up 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.040 twenty two minimum twenty two million dollars. So hello free agency. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.120 But you just asked, you just asked the question. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.319 You just we're talking about osa Osa Diggi ju and 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.240 and look his Here's what I think would would have 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.200 made the eyes on on Mazi a little bit different 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.760 if if you had a guy that was getting that production, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.800 a guy that was tops in the league at the 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:22.920 three that he's. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.640 A hustlers, hustler. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.840 But but at this point, you know, has he priced 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.000 himself out when we start talking about what we look 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.719 at for him? And in ibra Flus's defense, because these 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.440 two guys are going to play off of each other, 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.440 and I think even at one A and one B, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.280 I don't have one one guy between both of them 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.040 that I can say I can't I can't do it 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.120 out either. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:45.959 I can't do it out either one of them. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.400 This is our scheme is going to be generated around 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.000 him as a player. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.840 And I mean we got we got prooved throughout the league. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.120 We got guys like Chris Jones, we got the first Buckner's, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.319 we got come on out. We got guys in the 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.040 league that we can look at them that are making 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.040 that kind of money, that are having that kind of 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.720 impact that we don't have here. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.360 So you just said it, then he's not. We just 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.880 said one. Neither one, neither one. Neither one, neither one. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.320 Right from listen listening to what you just said, breaking 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:18.080 it down, Heck, Maharson, neither were Diggie zooa Amasi Smith 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.920 or Worth you saying hey man, let's get you a 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.800 long term deal, and we think you're going to be 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.080 the piece, and that's. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.200 Get I correct, Yeah for sure. Okay, so because I. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.920 Think the Chrispian what was it twenty four mili for 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:38.920 a defensive tackle franchise tag, so it's going to. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.440 Be twenty plus so and. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.960 When you do so, when you do the franchise tag, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.400 that money counts. That that you know right there counts. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.000 Whereas if you signed an Osa Diggi zero to a 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.200 longer term, you can take the money down real lod 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.040 in year one, spread it out. So you franchise a guy, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.440 you better be really real sure because that money's gonna 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.560 get tied up. So either you want to do a 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.320 long term deal with Osa most likely going to Leton, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.160 go yeah, and you don't have a contract right now 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.200 for Michael Parsons that's in place. So there are guys 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.120 that you use the tag on, okay, because it gives you. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.760 It gives you time and leeway to sign an extension. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.760 And then there are guys that you just don't waste 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.360 your time on giving the tag. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.440 We gave the was it Pollard a couple of years ago. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:39.160 He hurried up to get here to sign it in 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.280 the paper. Let me sign it in right if you tag? 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.280 If you tag Osa, Osa will wherever he's vacationing right 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.240 now now Harry back to sign the tag. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:51.760 Yeah. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.320 I mean I'm looking at the tag on another Cincinnati 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.360 with t Higgins right now. I mean it's one of 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.720 those situations you're like, man, that's that's cold blooded for Cincinnati. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.160 The tag a guy that's already been showing you has 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.080 the time, proof of consistency that you want in a player, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.080 and you're gonna tag him again and not allow him 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.480 to go out there and get the big money. I'm 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.320 just I'm tired of reaching on players. Basically, I'm tired 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.760 of the tagger. It's just for tax sake. If there 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.000 ain't nobody out there to tag keep get tagged, then. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.520 Okay, there's no tag for a Diggie Zoo. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.920 No, I would yeam with that. Yeah, I'll spreading that 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.640 money out. So therein lies the next step to me, 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.080 it's free agency. If you are at this point in time, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.120 you've made the hire of a head coach that the 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.200 fan base to not get excited about. Okay, this is 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.760 not where the Chargers hired Jim Harbaugh, and. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.040 Folks out there are like, okay, okay, super Bowl coach. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.120 It's the first time head coach and people were like, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.240 well he was already here in the building with So 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.600 if you're going to help him, Brian Schottenheimer and Maddie 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.840 Refleuch your defense GC, and you wanted to get your 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.640 fans excited, you need to go to the market and 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.240 bring people in. Yeah, you need you need to You 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.280 need to say, look, we're serious and this is what 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.600 we're trying to do to help our staff. Stop trying 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.840 to duct tape it. Stop going over here to the 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.880 discount stores and the bargain being and seeing what's on clearance? 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.959 Go out here free agency first week and go go 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:16.480 sign something. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.919 If what was the last time the boys made a 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.000 big time. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.720 The car, big car? If that, if that's the last 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:32.120 like I can think of, like Hooker and he came Thursday. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:34.600 I'm just locking load. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:40.920 I'm reaching to forgive me saying it is not there. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.880 It is not there, and I don't I don't want 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.160 to lie to myself again to think that they are. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.280 And when you say, you know free agency starts, you 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.880 can't go to the bargain the tag says you don't 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.160 have any other choice but to go bargain shopping. We're 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.520 setting We've set ourselves up for another year where the 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.720 draft is imperative. We can't miss we can't miss on 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.120 the first round again. We can't bring in another guy 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.160 that's not going to give us a production. We can't 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.680 miss on the second round. Got our third and by 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.240 the way, we don't have a forward. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.720 But you got Bingo. You know what, you know what 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.600 it's like their version of t Higgins. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:22.840 Friend. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.200 Yeah, no, let's get it. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:32.960 We got to figure this camp out. Man's let's get it. Kid. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.280 Something that I did hear that I think you all 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.280 enjoy from one of the assistant coaches. We'll dive into 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.480 that next. Talk about right here all the players with 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.720 Heck Harrison, Barry Church on skirts. 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