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Speaker 3: It is time for the players Lounes right up in

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Speaker 3: here on a very cold day here or Texas be

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Speaker 3: like we are Barry's hometown.

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Speaker 2: Golden the mother man not ready for all this, but

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Speaker 3: I find all the free stuff I didn't have through

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Speaker 3: the years and put it on.

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Speaker 4: What you got, you got like four different schools. Man

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Speaker 4: knows no just three three loyal He knows no bounce

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Speaker 4: the loyalty knows freet braids up Topma May Pembroke, got

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Speaker 4: fable state on the bottom.

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Speaker 3: You my sister, My dad went to They got got

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Speaker 3: an A and M baseball coach from a man Jeff

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Speaker 3: Slas Nagga before he left for Texas.

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Speaker 2: He has on A and M jacket right now.

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Speaker 3: So I got outs last who got I need some

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Speaker 3: new Texas to so over there so and and then

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Speaker 3: then I got a little TCU baseball.

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Speaker 2: Sure my boy.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, it's free and it's cold, so you layer up.

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Speaker 3: That is the key to this well, one thing I

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Speaker 3: learned living in Cleveland. The key just is uh layering up.

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Speaker 3: So cowboys just to coaches came by this week here

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Speaker 3: it starts. We got to talk a little everybody. Maddy

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Speaker 3: Flues was the guyybody wanted to everybody wanted a piece.

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Speaker 2: Of flu smll. He's that guy. Here's that god.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, defensively, defensively, come on, let us get

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Speaker 3: through it.

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Speaker 2: Tried to get through trying to sell us on Mazsi

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Speaker 2: Smith did it? No whit?

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Speaker 3: Whoa tell me more? Coaches is trying to sell us

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Speaker 3: on mar Come on.

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Speaker 4: So what's what's the new scheme for young Mazie. What

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Speaker 4: are they gonna do different that hadn't been done? No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no no no no no where no We're no where.

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Speaker 4: We're going somewhere. We're going somewhere, stay with somewhere. What

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Speaker 4: you got explained to the people. Don't know what what

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Speaker 4: could have could era fluse? What could the plan be

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Speaker 4: for young young Maazi?

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Speaker 3: Oh that them boys and got some Hopio nah boys

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Speaker 3: and got some hope, A fresh batch ol fresh batch.

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Speaker 5: Shot, passed it all out. Pas came down with some opio.

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Speaker 5: The whole crew all the time. If I came in

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Speaker 5: with the hopeing, woe, Jerry with the work got shot.

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Speaker 5: Everybody everybody got that hopeing.

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Speaker 3: And so so they're they're hoping for good things for

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Speaker 3: Mossie Smith.

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Speaker 2: They're hoping anything they can they can get something out

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Speaker 3: So I will say this, in my opinion, this is

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Speaker 3: the right thing to do and come out and say

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Speaker 3: everything needs to be one positive right now, Everything needs

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Speaker 3: to be positive. Like hey man, players are in the

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Speaker 3: building right now. There it's their time where they get

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Speaker 3: to be, be where they're gonna be. We talk to

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Speaker 3: guys on the phone. They're looking at tapes, point of attack,

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Speaker 3: you know. With the linebacker coach, I look at point

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Speaker 3: of attack. But he wants to work with the guys.

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Speaker 3: So I asked, even if you got what you need,

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Speaker 2: That's where he's going. I danced around.

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Speaker 3: Everybody would dancing everybody, nobody, nobody, Hey, look, nobody was

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Speaker 3: trying to commit to nothing to nobody, you know. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: but they they they they're trying to talk to you

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Speaker 3: like Mozzie's got something. You know they got going Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I mean barring an inspirational speech from.

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Speaker 2: Your uncle Joe Green. I don't I don't know what

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Speaker 3: But but hey, once again, in defense of the coaches,

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Speaker 3: this is what you should be saying. Don't come out

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Speaker 3: making any declarate like your boy Rob Ryan when he

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Speaker 3: come in here, saying all this little tough, tough crazy

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Speaker 3: stuff like you know, y'all. In some ways it was

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Speaker 2: Louck. I am not one of those ready to just

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Speaker 2: discount and throw Mazzi away. I'm not not.

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Speaker 3: He's the first round pick. He's going to be here,

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Speaker 3: year three, he's going to be here. And it's another system,

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Speaker 3: but it's number three, lady. But Mazi needs help, and

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Speaker 3: friends and other people throw bodies at the position. If

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Speaker 6: Get you get your best out of your defensive line,

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Speaker 6: and all the defensive lines I've played with, you had

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Speaker 6: are past rush specialists that'll come in there third down

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Speaker 6: we call NASCAR packages. Then you have guys that they're

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Speaker 6: special Their special ability is to hold down the four.

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Speaker 6: They can handle double teams, make sure nobody gets to

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Speaker 6: that second level, and you rotate those pieces going throughout

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Speaker 6: the season. You get the most out of the office

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Speaker 6: or defensive line. Now, when it comes to Mazzie Stiff,

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Speaker 6: I like the positivity.

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Speaker 3: I like, you know, feeding your players positivity, getting their

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Speaker 3: confidence in the right direction going into this offseason. And

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Speaker 3: he has played better, you know than when he first

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Speaker 3: started out. You know, he was getting tossed out the

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Speaker 3: couple of games this season, he's playing I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: say he's playing elite, but he's been playing better. So

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Speaker 3: to me, you can get you can get some more

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Speaker 3: out of Mizzi Smith, and I believe ebra Blouse is

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Speaker 6: But when you talk about you need friends in there

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Speaker 6: as well. You can't just put it all on him.

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Speaker 6: He can't be that guy. That's like, all right, Masi,

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Speaker 6: it's up to you and the crew to get things done.

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Speaker 3: Now, you gotta have somebody that can go along with them,

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Speaker 3: play those stunts with him, and that's how I think

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Speaker 3: you get the most out of a Mizzi Smith, And

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Speaker 3: hopefully that's where this defense goes into the offseason.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to bring back a guy

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Speaker 6: I think he might, you know, price his way out

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Speaker 6: and he get a bear contract somewhere else. But you

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Speaker 6: make sure nobody goes up this middle, because we've seen

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Speaker 6: when that's the case, this team gets gashed.

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Speaker 4: Like, let's just be honest, okay, And we've dealt with

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Speaker 4: this being this going into our third season, and what

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be built in excuses for Mazie. But the

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Speaker 4: truth is, and as you know, Bear's gonna come down

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Speaker 4: to where you were drafted, and if you're a first

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Speaker 2: He hasn't lived up to that, And.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and so playing better is just playing decent

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Speaker 4: and that doesn't fit the first round grade that you have, right,

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Speaker 4: and so that's unacceptable. And we've had defensive court say, okay,

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Speaker 4: he's not a two gap guy, so we can't use him.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be a penetrate Nascar guy. Okay, he doesn't

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Speaker 4: it hasn't been effective whatsoever. It to me is an

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Speaker 4: attitude adjustment that has to happen. And maybe outside of

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Speaker 4: I don't see it being anything different. I mean, and

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Speaker 4: I understand for a coach eber Flus, he can't come

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Speaker 4: get rid. You know, he can't do that. He has

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Speaker 4: to go who he has. But truthfully, if he's looking

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Speaker 4: at last year's tape like I'm looking at last year's tape,

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Speaker 4: he said, oh my god, we got a problem, okay,

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Speaker 4: and we have to find a way even rotationally, to

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Speaker 4: Because even when you bought in a Linvall Joseph, he

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Speaker 4: wasn't even in enough shape to push for the star position.

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Speaker 4: you can't be expecting to play an A list guy

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Speaker 3: So I think for Cowboy fans, it's time to just

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Speaker 3: make sure this will not be Warren Sap, because Maddie

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Speaker 3: reflues who loves a three technique. This is not This

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Speaker 3: ain't war Sapped, This won't be Joe Green, this won't

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Speaker 3: be John Ramley. He's not that guy. He will not

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Speaker 3: be Russell Maryland. That's not what Mosie Smith is going

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Speaker 3: to be. He's going to be a part of the group,

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Speaker 3: as you talked about it here, part of a rotation.

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Speaker 2: You know, if he's thinking of Jackson five, he's Tito.

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Speaker 4: It had guitars, smile, somebody else got hes got to

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Speaker 2: He just gonna be Keito.

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Speaker 3: And if he's Tito a part of a rotation that works,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, he had a first round grade and he

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Speaker 2: What you should realistically expect.

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Speaker 3: But don't look for him to be the next Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl player that that Will Smith draft. I mean Will Will,

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Speaker 3: but Clay drafted and that's that's okay. I can live

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Speaker 3: with that. Can you just be a contributor on Sundays,

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Speaker 3: a part of a bigger rotation that works. He will

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Speaker 2: Of the Eagles. Okay, that's all right. Can you be

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Speaker 2: a junior Vince Wilford? Maybe that could help.

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Speaker 3: That could help, But but I just think it's it's

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Speaker 3: time to just say, hey, man, in the third system,

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Speaker 3: maybe everybody goes, look, man, you go down the list.

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Speaker 3: I tell your body, go go go back and look

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Speaker 3: at any draft class from four years ago. Half these

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Speaker 3: dudes don't make it. Half of them, A good quarter.

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Speaker 7: Of them do.

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Speaker 2: But it's just that way. And when you get he

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Speaker 2: can still be a contributory. That's my thing. He can

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Speaker 2: still be a contributory here.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like when you get it wrong in

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Speaker 4: the first round, because those guys are the ones that

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Speaker 4: you are saying off the bus guys they have to

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Speaker 4: they have to.

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Speaker 2: They have to play because of the way that they're paid.

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Speaker 4: And when you the last two years, you've reached on picks,

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Speaker 4: and those picks have cost you production wise. If you

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Speaker 4: look around the other thirty one teams, their first rounders

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Speaker 4: you know. If they're not, that's when you start to

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Speaker 4: get the whispers of bus guy's not working out, we're

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Speaker 4: We gave the was it Pollard a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: He hurried up to get here to sign it in

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Speaker 4: If you tag Osa, Osa will wherever he's vacationing right

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Speaker 3: it's free agency. If you are at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: Folks out there are like, okay, okay, super Bowl coach.

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Speaker 3: It's the first time head coach and people were like,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to help him, Brian Schottenheimer and Maddie

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Speaker 2: Go out here free agency first week and go go

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Speaker 9: The car, big car? If that, if that's the last

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Speaker 4: I'm reaching to forgive me saying it is not there.

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Speaker 4: It is not there, and I don't I don't want

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Speaker 4: And when you say, you know free agency starts, you

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Speaker 4: that's cold.

437
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: That's cold. She was in single. My classes are canceled.

438
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 2: They oh man, that's awesome. Oh man, you see that.

439
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and your car and you call it. You

440
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: have to shuffle your car out. That was the first

441
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: time I've ever had to do that, shovel a car out.

442
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: I've never had that situation happened in Dallas. Right, shuffle

443
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: your car out. Okay, she hold frozen?

444
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: Do we do it? Send me pictures from cart like

445
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: it sounds like a choice. You made a choice to

446
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: me that I can't go.

447
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: Back to the cold man, can't do it again, never again.

448
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 3: So my wife is always she's always telling me about

449
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: Achron and how you know Akron, Ohio, how cold it

450
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: is and all this is nothing.

451
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, what go back, right, I lived in Cleveland.

452
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: It's colder right right, But but can't do it.

453
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's when you watch you remember

454
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: you ain't seen the salt truck in forever, and remember

455
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: the little the people who want the dudes who lived

456
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood had a little plow up front, and

457
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: it's yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's the stuff.

458
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 3: But no, this is it's she's you know, it's worse

459
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: up there. But still it's a choice like I made

460
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: when the Browns moved.

461
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: So especially when it's colder and there ain't like stuff

462
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: to do. I can see if it was cold and

463
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: you can.

464
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 12: Ski, you you could do other like's just like, yeah,

465
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 12: you don't like the cold.

466
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 3: But I was like, because it's stuff to do, stuff

467
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: to do, but what it is cold enough snowboarding with

468
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: the kids?

469
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, stuff to do.

470
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: Man be cold and cold Manhattan, Kansas, ain't nothing to do.

471
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: Ain't then some brisket or something out there. Ain't ain't

472
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 4: no brisket out there right down and tried it they did.

473
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: I thought you said, bro Let me tell you.

474
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: I told my child.

475
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 3: From now on, me and Papa John's that's all we're

476
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: going to your town tidies restaurants. They telling me it's

477
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: really good, ain't Papa John can messed that up?

478
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Bring your own season, and you know the best.

479
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: Food that have is the food I could buy that

480
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: little call hall that I can take on. Yeah, because

481
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: they got their ground, because they got their own cows,

482
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: so they their their ground beef. They were all taking

483
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: home with you and cook it up. But in town

484
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: nothing restaurants. She ain't gained no freshman fifteen.

485
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 4: Listen the ladies they have on the other side, on

486
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: the athletic side, they got all the obay.

487
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: They got all the obey.

488
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 4: On the other side on that they got old bay

489
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: over crabbed limbs and steak over there, man, Michael Jordan,

490
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: picture them kids.

491
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: Everybody's sick over there. Y'all enjoy y'all food. That's that

492
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: real quick.

493
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 3: Actually, that's that's how much what it is in all

494
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: these campuses.

495
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: Yes, damn yeah no, if you athlete, boy, that beating good. Yeah.

496
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: Man, you told me that TC was talking to your

497
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: son over there. Heard they had crab limbs over there too. Man,

498
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: come on, they tonny let me eat. One day after steak,

499
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: I was like, who's transferring from here?

500
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: Play State?

501
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: Be sitting at me, coach be kicking me. Yeah, I

502
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: think i'mna play that seventh year coach. I'm applied.

503
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: And they were selling all those brothers from the hood.

504
00:24:59,359 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: Look y'all eating.

505
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: Who must take.

506
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: Way too mistake because anybody ever hast we'll bring it back.

507
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 4: We're putting all different talking about Man, you don't have

508
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: to take that to your room. You can always come

509
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 4: back against. I said, I'm gonna do that too. I'm

510
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: leaving with something, leaving with.

511
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: Cowboy.

512
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: Assistant coaches met with the media this week and uh

513
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: and then it's being the case. The form offensive line

514
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: coach of Wildcats is now down here said they plan

515
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: to be a physical offensive line. Clayton Adams is the

516
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator former offensive lind head coach over the Arizona

517
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: They are they are talking about preaching being a physical

518
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: football team up front. They are going to be committed

519
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: to running the ball. I know it's what it sounds like,

520
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: but you know what, Church, it was something we never

521
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: heard or saw Mike McCarthy do this commitment to run

522
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: the football. Let's be physical upfront. They realize this is

523
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: division right now. You better control the line. If you

524
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: don't control the line against Philadelphia and Washington, you're in trouble.

525
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: You got to win this division. If you forget trying

526
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: to talk Super Bowl you how do you win this division?

527
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 13: Now?

528
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: With these two teams here, and we know what these

529
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: two teams are doing. They're trying to play in the trenches,

530
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys have to meet the challenge.

531
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: So when I heard that, at least to me, that

532
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: was a good idea. I know it's what you're saying

533
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: right now, you need to see actions, But at least

534
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: I like what they're saying.

535
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: And they're saying this is coming from Schottenheimer, and they're

536
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: all buying into it. They all got the hopium shot.

537
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: Everybody out here drinking the kool aid and they saying it,

538
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: and doogg on it. If you're a Cowboy fan to be,

539
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: that's that's good. Now we're talking about the tools. I

540
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: don't know about the tools right now. They had to

541
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: ford a run game all on the offensive line. But

542
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: at least you're talking about now, go go hey, Will

543
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: McLay free once again, friend, let's go fill it. Let's

544
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: go fill out. But at least you have a vision.

545
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: Starts with a vision. Okay, at least we have a vision.

546
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: We want to be physical. Okay, we want to we

547
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: want to win the trenches. Now how do you do it?

548
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: That's the next thing. But at least you have the

549
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: vision of what it is you want to be man.

550
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: All these all these guys are saying the right things.

551
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: You see Flues talking about we getting Masie right. Yeah,

552
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: you know you got coming down from shot night. When

553
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: we're going to run the football. We're going to be

554
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: a physical team. And we saw teams Cowboys teams in

555
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: the past when they're physical. You know, that's the best

556
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: teams that you have.

557
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: But we've heard the same thing from mister Mike McCarthy

558
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 6: when he was talking about we're gonna run the football,

559
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 6: and we did the exact opposite thing.

560
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: So I hear a lot like you said words. You know,

561
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: they can play a little bit here.

562
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: I gotta see these actions because when you look into

563
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: this division, the Eagles front seven offensively and.

564
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: Defensively outstage is good. Team is bad.

565
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: They killing people, They killing Washington. You still got the

566
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: Bama boys up there.

567
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: DQ.

568
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna reload, Yeah, killing Dady killing people. Gotta find

569
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 3: a way to be physical. But for me, we hear

570
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: this physical talk all the time. I just don't think

571
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: this team will be patient enough to ride the run.

572
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: But you at least have to recognize it. You do,

573
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: you know, and at the first until you got it

574
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: that you got a problem, right before you had what

575
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: was you do?

576
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Twelve step? Think got first thing that you got a problem.

577
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, you got a sixty million dollar quarterback and

578
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 6: you gotta what thirty five thirty eight million dollar wide receiver.

579
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't think this team is gonna be patient enough

580
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: to sit there.

581
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: Let's run, run, run, and you know, play action here

582
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 6: and there. I don't see this team being that. How okay,

583
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 6: how do you help that sixty million dollars? Oh that's

584
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 6: an I'm with you one hundred percent. You run the football,

585
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: I'm with you one hundred percent. Because the last coach

586
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 6: wasn't really trying to do that. At least this coach

587
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: recognizes and at least he says he does. Yeah, well,

588
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 6: but what is Shoddy's history been?

589
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: He's done that?

590
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean so, so at least I know I'm not

591
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: lying to me. He's at least done it. He's at

592
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: least admitted he wanted to do it. You know, you

593
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: talk to guy like lt wearing the ball, so you

594
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: could be committed to it, you know, when it's happening,

595
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: when it's ten carries for twenty one yards, will will

596
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: you be committed to it?

597
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: But that was Mike though Mike was Mike was always

598
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: that way. Yeah, I'm going to the past. Will you

599
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: go back to it? Like? Man, it's run ain't working,

600
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: it's on you four. I don't know, so.

601
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: I am, I am, I'm look, here's at that. I

602
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: don't that sounds like bulljob to me. Okay, let's just

603
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: let's just call it right and if we're gonna know

604
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: what okay, because here we here's the deal. We we

605
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: we arrived back to this. We'll ride back to the

606
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: same place each and every year. What we're telling ourselves

607
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: we got to be physical clouded us. And then we

608
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: get out there on Sunday and da'strowing the ball forty times.

609
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: The different regime. No, it's the big regime. Okay, okay,

610
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: make okay, okay.

611
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: But but.

612
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: Just say our God, bron make make But you know,

613
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: I mean you panting out the bar.

614
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: He wanted out the problem. But where's the solution.

615
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: And if you're telling me that ric o' dadel in

616
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: some ways something, come on, let's go back to what

617
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: we have in.

618
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: The cupboard, because we can't deviate from what we have.

619
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: If you're telling me Tyler goydon okay, if you mentioned

620
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: he was mentioned, Okay.

621
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: So here's a positive guidance. Yes, no, you go ahead.

622
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is when you point out about Philadelphia,

623
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: when you point out about the command, you know what

624
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: you have coming, all right, And the best way to

625
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: nullify that is to be physical. You can't play for

626
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: Nest Football against Philly anymore.

627
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: They're not there. They are built to bruise, all right.

628
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: And if you don't run the ball, if you can't

629
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: run the ball, I eat the super Bowl in Kansas City,

630
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: what do they do? They are going to make life

631
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: hell for you and your quarterback that you're paying all

632
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: this money to. He's not gonna be successful when Dak

633
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: stands up and say, oh.

634
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: We're close, We're right there. You know we're right there.

635
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: All those guys, I've had a lot of time, proof

636
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: and consistency of beating them, Dak. Times changed and you

637
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: saw it with your own eyes. Times have changed. And

638
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: if you can't fix your offensive line, you have more

639
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: problems coming to you than you know that it's going

640
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: to start up front.

641
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: Heckma, I love the passion. I love the passion, and

642
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: I like the fact that you are skeptical. You should

643
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: be sca because we hear we've been told a lot

644
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: around Okay, sold the whole lot with.

645
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: That good friend, electorro McNeil says, Hall of Fame speaker.

646
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: You must see things as they are, which is what

647
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: I think they're doing. We don't run the ball, see

648
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: things as you think they are. We want to be

649
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: a physical football team. We want to commit to run

650
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: and then make them the way you see them.

651
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: These are the steps that you must do, because.

652
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: We all know order for you to try to at

653
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 3: least try to compete in this division, you're gonna have

654
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: to do it.

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Speaker 2: Man to to endorse? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: Then that didn't jive. You know, it happened. They had

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah. By the way, Cowboy Nation was a

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Speaker 2: bit harsh on Lawrence Taylor. Oh well, t sunny.

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Speaker 3: Why do they get salt yet, said Michael Parsons less

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 2: You know that's going he was in Aspen word l T.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, man out of pot, cowboy cowboy name.

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Speaker 3: We're not trying to hear Lawrence Taylor criticized Michael Parsons

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Speaker 3: They did not want to hear that from him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and that there are ways, Look, there

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Speaker 4: really are ways to get through. And I think Lawrence

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Speaker 2: The off the field.

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Speaker 4: Obviously those are documented, you can come back to those.

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Speaker 4: But times have changed so much, man, from from the

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Speaker 4: and a lot of guys's they don't listen to it.

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Speaker 2: It's like they don't they don't care.

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Speaker 4: About that, especially when they hear about some of the

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Speaker 4: off the field things. But there's something to be learned

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Speaker 4: in this whole split between generations because I think as

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Speaker 2: It's more about it. It's more than just the field now, which.

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Speaker 4: Branding is, branding is all those other things they go

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Speaker 4: into it. And when I look at Michael Parsons, truly, man,

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Speaker 4: he probably grew up in an everywhere DeMarcus Ware was

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Speaker 4: exactly so those are the guys that can speak to

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Speaker 4: think when he hears that from Lawrence Taylor's like, you

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Speaker 4: don't get it, you don't understand. But what I love

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Speaker 4: issues from him, all right, but we do want to play.

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Speaker 2: To go up to activity thank god, there's no authority. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was talking to research at least and Milly yesterday.

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Speaker 3: She brought up a very good point about gen Z.

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Speaker 3: She's just now they have more choices than ever. And

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Speaker 3: if you're talking about trying to build a brand, you're

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Speaker 3: talking about just what you can do outside of football.

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Speaker 3: A player of Michael Parson's talent has the more choices,

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Speaker 3: and so he's gone the podcasting round.

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey has gone the podcasting you got I'm on

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Speaker 2: Saint Brown. There's a lot of when how he long played.

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Speaker 3: You're too young to remember this, but you remember how

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Speaker 3: and all three were good players. Michael Parsons is still

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Speaker 3: playing at a Pro Bowl level. Okay, he was hurting

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Speaker 3: That's not Michael Parsons is a difference maker on the

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Speaker 2: Overall, the team just needs to win more games.

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Speaker 3: But I don't look at Michael Parlan saying you know what,

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Speaker 3: doing his podcas has all of a sudden, his game

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Speaker 3: would go ten more levels.

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Speaker 4: I don't know I've asked you this, but Barry, did

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Speaker 4: you have any mentors when you were in the league,

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Speaker 4: like guys that you know, professional league that were either

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Speaker 4: playing or out of the league that you talked to

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Speaker 4: to just deal with maybe personal financial.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got so.

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Speaker 6: For me, it was Terrence Newman when I first got here,

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Speaker 6: and the guy Gerald Senseiball.

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Speaker 2: Who we talk about all the time, and.

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Speaker 6: And those guys back when I first got in it

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Speaker 6: was kind of tunnel vision football like it was. It

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Speaker 6: was right before kind of social media blew up and

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Speaker 6: guys started doing this brand stuff.

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Speaker 2: You didn't have.

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Speaker 6: Everything with football football, and that's what they helped me,

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Speaker 6: you know, sharpen my craft and get better at I

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Speaker 6: wish I had a you know, a guy. I was like,

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Speaker 6: you need to think thing about this outside of the

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Speaker 6: ball or that, or you know how Greg Olsen got

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Speaker 6: into it.

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Speaker 2: That would be you know, that would be pretty dope

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Speaker 2: in my opinion.

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Speaker 6: And Michael Parsons is taking advantage of it because he

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Speaker 6: knows NFL.

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Speaker 3: And also make sure you understand what is the pecking

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Speaker 3: order when you're doing it. Michael Parsons is the first

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Speaker 3: round draft by the team, who the owner loves, who

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Speaker 3: is playing a position where he's on TV a lot

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Speaker 3: because he's getting to the Quarterbrock yep. So you can

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Speaker 3: do that. It's kind of hard to do that if

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Speaker 3: you are Austin Richards and you're a backup tackle or

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Speaker 3: brock Hoffman at the backup center. You have to be

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Speaker 3: in a position to do this. To take advantage of

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Speaker 3: some of these things. I mean, God bless Jason Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: The him doing the podcast is really a lot because

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Speaker 3: of his brother. Here's Travis dating homegirl and so now

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Speaker 3: touch it down.

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Speaker 2: You get to ride up in here too.

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Speaker 3: But how many offensive centers in the NFL are able

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Speaker 3: to go out here and do chunky super commercials and

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Speaker 3: do podcasts like that. So things have to align. You've

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Speaker 3: got to have the choices and be in the right position.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, it is what it is. But you know

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Speaker 3: what the cowboy assistant coaches everybody right now is take

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Speaker 3: this with you cowboysman. They are in a line with

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Speaker 3: what the head coach is saying. The head coaches hire

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Speaker 3: people who believe in his vision and they're going to

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Speaker 3: try to execute it.

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Speaker 2: Let us see now to get ready for the combine.

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Speaker 3: It starts to happen as you get ready for free agency.

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Speaker 3: What they do to help the coach and the coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: And that comes from.

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Speaker 2: Gerald Wayne Jones, President, general manager of the team. Maherrison positive,

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Speaker 2: he positive.

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Speaker 3: Next week, come on, we'll go see the coaches. The

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Speaker 3: coach is gonna give some of that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be right. We're gonna be singing the Doobie Brothers.

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Speaker 4: Keep you run, don't do that, can't keep you run here,

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Speaker 4: you gonna start running, that's me.

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Speaker 2: Come on, heck, that's sure.

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Speaker 4: Strut from Chris Josh, Let's do it.

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