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Speaker 1: Time today. What time is it? Game Time? First of all,
Speaker 1: this week, they rumors came out that Cooper Cup and
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford were on the trade block. Cooper Cup, I
Speaker 1: believe you see how often they targeted Puka Nakua. He's
Speaker 1: their future. Cooper Cup's good, but he's brittle. He struggles.
Speaker 1: He's like an old NBA player. He struggles on like
Speaker 1: back to back games on turf. You know, he's a guy.
Speaker 1: Ideally for him and his body, you'd play him about
Speaker 1: ten weeks a year. But for a good team, like
Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh team that's playing well, Now you get a
Speaker 1: third fourth round pick for Cooper Cup. With Pickens on
Speaker 1: the sideline routes, you'd have a real team. You know
Speaker 1: he would be a boost. But for the Rams, you
Speaker 1: know they're going to extract everything they can the rest
Speaker 1: of the year. I don't know if they'll move him.
Speaker 1: I think the Rams. I said this today on FS one.
Speaker 1: There's no question in that division. San Francisco is not
Speaker 1: as good as they were. Nobody's gonna trust Gino Smith
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Arizona can be great and awful in the
Speaker 1: same game. The Rams are now three and four. Remember
Speaker 1: last year slow start, they won seven of their last eight,
Speaker 1: got into the playoffs, and they they were a play
Speaker 1: away from beating Detroit. So this idea of trading Cooper Cup,
Speaker 1: I get it because of Poka Nakua, and I did
Speaker 1: not expect Poka Naku would have played tonight. That's why
Speaker 1: I had the vikings and the under on the Rams.
Speaker 1: I didn't think Pooka n Aku was gonna play. And
Speaker 1: you know, he's just total game changer. It's it's he's
Speaker 1: not justin Jefferson great, but he's a He's a ten target,
Speaker 1: eight catch guy weekly basis for ninety five to one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards. He's just a special player. Fifth
Speaker 1: round or two. But the Matt Stafford trade rumors are
Speaker 1: just don't make any sense to me. He's got this
Speaker 1: year and next year under contract, then they can walk away.
Speaker 1: But there's just not There's nobody in the next two
Speaker 1: college drafts that is close to this. And Sean McVay
Speaker 1: almost walked away from the NFL a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago to take an Amazon job as a broadcaster. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to start over with some you know, half
Speaker 1: of these first round quarterbacks don't make it this coming
Speaker 1: up draft, you know, I mean, I can see the
Speaker 1: Rams in the third or fourth round taking Riley Leonard
Speaker 1: out of Notre Dame, sitting them behind Stafford for a
Speaker 1: year or two. But if you're not getting Shader Sanders.
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody in this quarterback draft that's going
Speaker 1: to play immediately and excel at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 1: And that's what my couple sources who I've talked about
Speaker 1: in the executive suites in the NFL tell me. It's
Speaker 1: just this last draft was great quarterback draft. Next two
Speaker 1: are just okay. So I mean Stafford four touchdowns, twenty
Speaker 1: three to thirty two, nine different receivers, twenty seven first downs.
Speaker 1: They're not getting rid of him. And I said this
Speaker 1: last year and I'll say it again. They need a
Speaker 1: number one corner. The Rams doing the draft, they need
Speaker 1: a draft a sideline receiver, a speed receiver, and they
Speaker 1: need another offensive tackle and probably another safety for depth.
Speaker 1: But they're not that far away. If they hit, they
Speaker 1: have a first and two thirds. If they hit on
Speaker 1: those picks, team could win the Super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 1: think they were a super Bowl team this year at
Speaker 1: three and four, but Minnesota is a good team and
Speaker 1: the Rams controlled that second half. So I just I
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't buy in the I don't buy
Speaker 1: into Matt Stafford's moving and I've said this before. Just
Speaker 1: think about Aaron Rodgers. So Matt Stafford was a much
Speaker 1: better high school player than Aaron Rodgers, and a much
Speaker 1: better college player than Aaron Rodgers, and was better than
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers their first four years in the league. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Aaron's with the Packers, Stafford's with the
Speaker 1: you know, bankrupt Lions, and you know Stafford struggles to
Speaker 1: win in the same division. Rogers is, you know, out
Speaker 1: of this world. For green Band deserves all the credit.
Speaker 1: But what happens if Stafford the next two years makes
Speaker 1: the makes the Rams a viable super Bowl team. It's
Speaker 1: not unheard of San Francisco's peak. We don't trust Philadelphia's coach.
Speaker 1: The Lions are the best team. But in a big spot,
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Jared goff or mcvaghan, Stafford with no Aiden Hutchison,
Speaker 1: that that game gets a lot closer. So I just
Speaker 1: look at it and I think, to my elf, Stafford's here,
Speaker 1: load up on draft picks the next two years, try
Speaker 1: to have some hits. You know, the Rams defense is
Speaker 1: so young that they can spend some money in free agency.
Speaker 1: This year, they're not spending anything on defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: those guys are all free they're cheap. They got a
Speaker 1: lot of second, third, fourth, fifth rounders all over that defense.
Speaker 1: They're not paying anybody right now now that Aaron Donald's gone.
Speaker 1: As far as the Vikings go, you know, Sam Donald
Speaker 1: was fine outplayed in the second half. But it really
Speaker 1: is interesting. So you know, we all kind of picked,
Speaker 1: you know, Detroit green Bay to be the best in
Speaker 1: the division, and then the Bears and the Vikings to
Speaker 1: round it out. And I had said if the Vikings
Speaker 1: finished fourth, it's the most talented offensive fourth place team
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. They're not going to
Speaker 1: finish fourth, I think, But I do think, and they've
Speaker 1: got winnable games coming up. You know, they've got Titans, Jags, Colts, Arizona,
Speaker 1: Bears twice, Seattle. You know, Vikings are a good team.
Speaker 1: But I do think Detroit's kind of better roster and
Speaker 1: is a better team. And you saw it last week
Speaker 1: when they played. And I think Green Bay is so young,
Speaker 1: we're not seeing the best version of green Bay. I
Speaker 1: think over the next eight weeks, Packers are just going
Speaker 1: to get better and better and better better, And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if they got to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I don't see him as a super Bowl winning team
Speaker 1: this year, but it wouldn't shock me. They're so young.
Speaker 1: Every time you watch green Bay they look better. And
Speaker 1: that's the advantage of having a bunch of twenty four
Speaker 1: year olds and twenty five year olds who are just
Speaker 1: into their prime. Detroit's a little older, more seasoned, and
Speaker 1: that's why I like Detroit if they met in like
Speaker 1: like a playoff game. But you know, what do you
Speaker 1: do with Stafford? So my guess is if the Vikings
Speaker 1: end up being a good team winning ten games, but
Speaker 1: they finish third because the Vikings, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think they're Detroit or green Bay at their best. And
Speaker 1: remember the Vikings may have just lost their left tackle
Speaker 1: for some time. Cross your fingers on that. But Donald
Speaker 1: will have a market. I mean the last several years.
Speaker 1: Think about the quarterbacks who have had a market, Old Brady,
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins. Donald will
Speaker 1: have a market. Now, somebody may overpay for him. You're
Speaker 1: not going to get this Donald, He's not going to
Speaker 1: have this left tackle justin Jefferson, this coach you know,
Speaker 1: probably Jordan Addison, TJ. Hawkins, And you're not getting that Donald,
Speaker 1: But I think he'll be somewhere between the mess in
Speaker 1: New York and the Vikings. And he's a really coachable,
Speaker 1: likable kid. But you see it to night when you
Speaker 1: put him on the field with Stafford, Stafford is the
Speaker 1: better quarterback. I mean, Stafford's got nine different receivers, his
Speaker 1: pre snap stuff. I mean, the guy is just Matt
Speaker 1: is just insanely gifted. But he has you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a brand. He doesn't give a rip. He
Speaker 1: just loves football as family and that's you know, he's
Speaker 1: not controversial. He doesn't talk about conspiracy theories. He's just
Speaker 1: not who he is.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: He's just a good old Texas Southern guy loves football
Speaker 1: and family and keeps it quiet. But Donald will have
Speaker 1: a market, and I think JJ McCarthy, who had a
Speaker 1: great preseason, is kind of their future. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if Donald gets the ten wins, ten to
Speaker 1: eleven wins, that's a second third round, PA, I don't
Speaker 1: think you're going to get a first for him. But
Speaker 1: Donald will have a market. But they didn't draft JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy to move off him, so but I did think
Speaker 1: tonight when you see Donald and he's not reckless. He's
Speaker 1: gotten the reckless out of him. But when you see
Speaker 1: him on the same field with like a golf last
Speaker 1: week or a Matt Stafford this week, he just doesn't
Speaker 1: feel quite that. And I think Kevin O'Connell, who's a
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, I think a lot of people like Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1: But to give a guy a bag, you have to
Speaker 1: love your quarterback, and so he'll have a market. I
Speaker 1: think the Vikings will pull back a little, but again
Speaker 1: they're both the Rams schedule and the Viking schedule. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of wins. The other thing on the Rams
Speaker 1: tonight they got Pooka Cooper cut back, but the interior
Speaker 1: of their offensive line they're still missing two starters. So
Speaker 1: this Rams team, which has a young, young, aggressive, talented
Speaker 1: defense and a really good offensive line top five or
Speaker 1: six in the league when healthy. So the Rams now
Speaker 1: are starting to get healthy. Pookah a surprise starter tonight, big,
Speaker 1: big production. Just to give you a sense of how
Speaker 1: valuable Poka Nikua is, and I didn't think he'd played tonight.
Speaker 1: The Rams have won eight of the last nine games.
Speaker 1: Puka Nicua has played the only loss overtime loss on
Speaker 1: the road to Baltimore, and with that win, the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers are now in last place in
Speaker 1: the NFC West. The Chargers lose to Arizona seventeen fifteen.
Speaker 1: What you were watching are the two best quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league who have never had any support.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: James Connor is really a substantial running back for the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, who won on a walk off field goal.
Speaker 1: So he's got something. But Arizona's got the worst owner
Speaker 1: in the league. They flushed out the front office. They
Speaker 1: have another young coach. Cross your fingers on that. This
Speaker 1: offensive line's a better version of the awful ones they've
Speaker 1: mostly had. Kyler Murray has just this is why I
Speaker 1: support him. He's had complete utter dysfunction as entire career
Speaker 1: nerves on it. But it could be worse for Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: who tonight had no run game, patchwork offensive line. Will
Speaker 1: Disley at tight end was his go to receiver. What
Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean, Herbert was just manufacturing offense. At
Speaker 1: one point he had a fifteen play drive, you know,
Speaker 1: accounted for almost four hundred yards, and I mean it
Speaker 1: is just four yards here, six yards there. No run game,
Speaker 1: nine yard completion Justin Herbert with a minute fifty four left,
Speaker 1: gave them a fifteen to fourteen lead five field goals.
Speaker 1: They've got no playmakers. I mean, when Brock Purty isn't
Speaker 1: good in the red zone and you still have playmakers,
Speaker 1: it's one thing. They don't have. Any of the Chargers
Speaker 1: they got nothing. So Keenan Allen and Mike Williams they got.
Speaker 1: They shed those contracts and they drafted Lad McConkey from Georgia,
Speaker 1: who's a nice rookie. Slot had a couple decent catches,
Speaker 1: but they just don't have any players. And JK. Dobbins
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line, no run game. But this isn't the thing.
Speaker 1: You have to contextualize it. If you put Kyder Murray
Speaker 1: with San Francisco's talent the last four years or Herbert
Speaker 1: with San Francisco's talent, I think they have a trophy
Speaker 1: and Herbert I think is more popular because he's been
Speaker 1: less controversial. But they just I mean, you saw Kyder's
Speaker 1: forty four yard touchdown run. Herbert just methodically marching his
Speaker 1: team down behind a battle line with no run game.
Speaker 1: He has to throw Everybody in Arizona knows it. These
Speaker 1: guys are those are really good NFL quarterbacks. They haven't
Speaker 1: had the best owners, the best front offices, the best
Speaker 1: support staffs, the best offensive lines. And that's why I
Speaker 1: support Herbert and Kyler Murray. I mean, I love Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: but Detroit has two legit backs, the best offensive line,
Speaker 1: a deep threat, a clever offensive coordinator. Sam Laporta. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment of riches. And Jared's very good. I'm
Speaker 1: a Jared Goff stand but he's got I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got a convertible. I have it in Malibu on an
Speaker 1: eighty two degree summer day. It is good living if
Speaker 1: you're the quarterback of the Detroit Lions. So as Arizona
Speaker 1: wins that game, there are really weird franchise. I've said
Speaker 1: they're kind of a lesser Buffalo Bills. I'm never quite
Speaker 1: sure what I get half to half with Arizona or
Speaker 1: game to game with them. But I will say people
Speaker 1: can be critical of Kyler Murray. Take him out of
Speaker 1: this operation, and what do you have, Carolina.
Speaker 2: That's what you have.
Speaker 1: A kooky, impulsive ownership situation, and I think I think
Speaker 1: the Chargers have a chance to make the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: think the wildcard situation in the AFC is incredibly weak.
Speaker 1: The Jets we kind of like, and they're two and five,
Speaker 1: so like Pittsburgh looks like to me, Pittsburgh's not as
Speaker 1: good as Baltimore. I don't care what records are, and
Speaker 1: we'll get to Baltimore in a second. But I think
Speaker 1: the Chargers will eventually find their way once the offensive
Speaker 1: line gets healthier. I think they'll kind of figure out
Speaker 1: their way to get to nine wins and that'll get you,
Speaker 1: I mean, two US coming back. We'll see what Miami is.
Speaker 1: But I was actually impressed with both Herbert and Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray tonight so much. You know, I've said this before.
Speaker 1: It's one thing if you're a trust fund kid, but
Speaker 1: if you have had to fight through obstacles and turbulence
Speaker 1: your entire life and you never end up making any money,
Speaker 1: but you raise a great family, you're a great dad,
Speaker 1: that's incredibly impressive to me. Some guys, it's not fair.
Speaker 1: They are just pulling franchises uphill from the minute they
Speaker 1: step into this league. And that is justin Herbert and
Speaker 1: that is Kyler Murray pulling their franchises uphill. So Baltimore
Speaker 1: really hammers Tampa forty one thirty one, not indicative of
Speaker 1: what it really was. Lamar Jackson's gonna win MVP. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson right now is the best football player on the planet,
Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes the best quarterback. Lamar is
Speaker 1: the best all player on Monday Night Football. He has
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns and no picks tonight, five touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: The thing about Lamar Jackson that I was really noticing tonight,
Speaker 1: they finally have given him Zayflowers. They finally have weapons
Speaker 1: for him. I don't know if anybody sees the field.
Speaker 1: And I thought about this watching Lamar a lot of
Speaker 1: times with young quarterbacks that justin fields, or Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: you know, they have gifts, they move well, they have
Speaker 1: good arms, but they just don't see the field. Is
Speaker 1: it anxiety, is the fear of getting hit where they
Speaker 1: get they get tunnel vision, whatever it is. The ability
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson to sit in the pocket and be
Speaker 1: able to see sideline to sideline. It's like he's always
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to the right person. You get all
Speaker 1: the upside and really very little downside.
Speaker 2: And you know.
Speaker 1: He has I don't know how it ended. At one
Speaker 1: point he had eighteen touchdown passes without a pick. You know,
Speaker 1: there was this for years. I mean when he came
Speaker 1: into the league, I didn't know what he was gonna be.
Speaker 1: I mean I had no idea. I mean I watched
Speaker 1: him play at Louisville in college and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think this is gonna work. I didn't think Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott was gonna work. By the way, Dak Prescott fell
Speaker 1: to the fourth round, So everybody in the league question
Speaker 1: whether it was gonna work. But you know, NFL GM's
Speaker 1: miss on quarterbacks all the time. What you have to
Speaker 1: be able to do is acknowledge when you make a
Speaker 1: mistake and go, yeah, this guy can play. So it
Speaker 1: was very obvious. By the middle of a second year,
Speaker 1: You're like, this guy's you know, he's two three touchdowns game.
Speaker 1: He has developed into such an extraordinary pocket passer, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is his He has
Speaker 1: no fear in the pocket. I mean he got hammered.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get hammered as much as he used to.
Speaker 1: He got hammered tonight two or three times. A couple
Speaker 1: of helmet on helmets He's a totally fearless player, completely
Speaker 1: utterly fearless player. And he's not he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: dad bod, he's not thick. He just doesn't care. And
Speaker 1: then you add Derrick Henry to it. Did you notice
Speaker 1: that Troy Aikman shot tonight at the Dallas Cowboys when
Speaker 1: he said, you know, there's a lot of teams could
Speaker 1: have used Derrick Henry and Joe Buck said anybody in particular.
Speaker 1: That's the difference in the Baltimore front office and the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy Jerry Jones led front office, Dereck Henry was
Speaker 1: out there for eight million bucks, and Baltimore's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna do that. I'll continue to say
Speaker 1: that Kansas City's the best team in the league, But
Speaker 1: who's playing the best football? And I think it's Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I just I mean it's they reeled off at one
Speaker 1: point twenty seven straight points and Tampa's good team. Now again,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans got hurt that that that was tough. Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield to a really bad pick into the end zone
Speaker 1: that kind of started the avalanche. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: like Brock Purty throwing three picks against Kansas City, or
Speaker 1: Baker mayfield a big pick in the end zone against Baltimore,
Speaker 1: then the Avalanche starts and then there's no going back
Speaker 1: on that. But I there's not a player on the planet,
Speaker 1: including Patrick Mahomes, that I enjoy watching play more than
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And you watch him on the sidelines. They
Speaker 1: should just write a book on how to act as
Speaker 1: a star quarterback. He's such an adult, he's such a
Speaker 1: grown up, so humble. He's on the sidelines and you
Speaker 1: know he's asking players how you doing, And you know
Speaker 1: he's not over there gloating or he's just such a
Speaker 1: team guy.
Speaker 2: I just love him.
Speaker 1: Cannot get enough of Lamar Jackson and a But the
Speaker 1: only criticism I have of that game tonight, I think
Speaker 1: I counted seventeen penalties in that game. You know, you know,
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Speaker 1: So the Steelers beat the Jets thirty seven to fifteen
Speaker 1: it is the most points the Steelers have scored since
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and the Jets have now surrendered sixty
Speaker 1: points since Robert Sala, the best coach on their staff,
Speaker 1: was fired. So I was just thinking about this, so
Speaker 1: I wrote down how every Jets game has gone blown out,
Speaker 1: ugly win, dominating win, New England, first team in the league,
Speaker 1: ugly loss, close loss, close loss, ugly loss. There are
Speaker 1: two and five football team and the Steelers are five
Speaker 1: and two. And if you watch tonight the Steelers offense,
Speaker 1: I mean it may have been ugly for Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: in that first quarter, it was really ugly, but second
Speaker 1: half he was the better quarterback. So two takeaways. The
Speaker 1: Jets fired Robert Sala the defense in the last two games.
Speaker 1: I said it at the time, you just fired the
Speaker 1: best coach in your staff. The defense has not played
Speaker 1: up to a Robert Salas standard since he was fired.
Speaker 1: That's what change does. So now Aaron is asked to
Speaker 1: be better than he was before when Sala was the
Speaker 1: coach because the defense isn't as good. So you got
Speaker 1: rid of the best coach on your staff. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean in the second half of that game, so
Speaker 1: I went, I was thinking about Russell Wilson because obviously
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan in Seattle. Then Denver was
Speaker 1: the Hacket year was a disaster, and the Sean Payton
Speaker 1: ere it was fine. And then I went and looked
Speaker 1: at the numbers for Russell Wilson in Denver, and because
Speaker 1: Sean had such disdain for him, you know, there was
Speaker 1: this sense that Russell was terrible in Denver. No, the
Speaker 1: Broncos defense last year was awful. That's why it's so
Speaker 1: surprising that the Broncos defense this year so good. It's
Speaker 1: mostly the same players. What happened, I mean, the same guys. Basically,
Speaker 1: they didn't have many draft picks, right, they gave him
Speaker 1: up to get Russell Wilson, so they went and got
Speaker 1: a kid from Utah defensive end. They just didn't have
Speaker 1: many picks onn't got a receiver or two. So Russell
Speaker 1: last year in Denver with Sean Payton and they didn't
Speaker 1: they didn't connect. But he won five games in a
Speaker 1: row in the middle of the season. He finished with
Speaker 1: a ninety eight passer rating, sixty six percent completion percentage,
Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns, eight picks, and elusive not terrible it's
Speaker 1: above average. I mean, ninety eight passer rating is a
Speaker 1: B to a B plus quarterback. The very few interceptions inaccurate.
Speaker 1: So as you were watching the second half to night,
Speaker 1: Russell was in total control. He was more athletic than
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He had two touchdowns, no interceptions. I thought
Speaker 1: he played an incredibly clean game through for two hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty plus yards. If you had told me before
Speaker 1: the night started, Russell Wilson would have outplayed Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I would have said, you're out of your mind. This
Speaker 1: guy hasn't played in forever. He's coming off a really bumpy, ugly,
Speaker 1: bad pr year in Denver, and he out played him.
Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh ran the ball. You know, it's the Steelers.
Speaker 1: They're just going to kind of grind it and ugly
Speaker 1: it and they're probably going to end up winning nine
Speaker 1: to ten games. But Russell Wilson in the second half
Speaker 1: was better. And what's becoming increasingly clear, and this is
Speaker 1: not to take a shot, but Aaron is a completely
Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback. Now he's Jared Golf, but Jared Goff
Speaker 1: is much more accurate with a much better offensive line.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't move Aaron doesn't move anymore. He has
Speaker 1: a lot of shuttle passes, a lot of quick passes.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to get hit, and he doesn't move.
Speaker 1: And just go look at how valuable Holmes movement was today,
Speaker 1: or Jordan Love's movement was today. Go look around the
Speaker 1: league in the morning. Trevor Lawrence moving, that's winning football games,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's movement today. Aaron is a pocket only quarterback
Speaker 1: with some flips, quick passes, didn't stay in the pocket
Speaker 1: very long the receiving course. Okay, now, Mike Williams even
Speaker 1: made a catch tonight, but Russell was the better quarterback
Speaker 1: and it was ugly early, but you got to get
Speaker 1: over first impressions. This is a two and five football team.
Speaker 1: Thank god they played the Patriots again. They play the
Speaker 1: Jags later, So I mean, New York's got all sorts
Speaker 1: of opportunities, but we're gonna have to be totally honest here.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, with this defense and this culture and this
Speaker 1: head coach and this run game is going to end
Speaker 1: up having a better year than Aaron Rodgers with that
Speaker 1: interim coach and that crappy culture and that bad owner
Speaker 1: and a hit and misrun games, couldn't run the ball tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny Aaron and Russell Wilson. I can't
Speaker 1: speak for Russell. I don't think Russell spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time thinking about Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron has never
Speaker 1: been a fan of Russell Wilson. You know, Aaron, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's spiritual. I'm not sure if he's agnostic,
Speaker 1: but he's spiritual. Always kind of rolled his eyes at
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. It was pretty understood in the league, So
Speaker 1: to lose to Russell Wilson is you know, it's just
Speaker 1: I would imagine kind of digs and Aaron Rodgers, but
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could botch that game tonight and
Speaker 1: be confused. Russell was much more under control, had a
Speaker 1: better run game, had a better coach. But that's part
Speaker 1: of it. So, you know, it's funny. When Russell first
Speaker 1: went to Pittsburgh, my take was, oh, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: good spot. It won't be a heavy lift for him.
Speaker 1: He's got pickings on the outside, got a couple of
Speaker 1: good backs, it's a good culture. And then you know
Speaker 1: he calf injury, loses his job to Justin Fields. You know,
Speaker 1: you just you're just tearing things that you know. Is
Speaker 1: he a Steeler? I mean the press, the leaks, but
Speaker 1: you're watching him tonight, man, and I'm like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's better than Justin Field's. He was more under control
Speaker 1: his cadence at the line of scrimmage. He was more
Speaker 1: under control. So we got to be fair about this stuff.
Speaker 1: What do he looked like in the first quarter and
Speaker 1: what he looked like in the second half two different things.
Speaker 1: And the Jets, I mean, I said going into the
Speaker 1: weekend it was one of my picks of the week.
Speaker 1: Then the staff here at the volumes like, are you sure?
Speaker 1: My blazing five? Two wins, two losses and a push,
Speaker 1: But this was my second favorite moment of the week.
Speaker 1: I thought, Russell hasn't played, he's coming off a calf injury.
Speaker 1: The locker room kind of like Justin Fields, I mean,
Speaker 1: Big Ben is like you can't see him. There was
Speaker 1: literally nobody around the Steeler organization outside of it that
Speaker 1: thought it was a good move. There was nobody, I
Speaker 1: mean big Ben talk show hosts, I follow Pittsburgh media,
Speaker 1: nobody liked the Russell Wilson move. And by the end
Speaker 1: of this game, you're like, of course, it felt like
Speaker 1: it was the right move. He was just I kind
Speaker 1: of just felt like he's been in so many games
Speaker 1: and so many standalone games, it wasn't too big for him.
Speaker 1: And you know, what a messy season for a franchise
Speaker 1: that cannot get out of its way. I mean, just
Speaker 1: think about this, go look at the green Bay Packers. Now.
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers are human. They've got a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: They've got incredible chemistry in that locker room with all
Speaker 1: those receivers and tight ends for the Packers. What a
Speaker 1: fun team to be part of. And it's now when
Speaker 1: you look at the Packers, how lucky are they to
Speaker 1: have moved on from the toxicity of Aaron. I'm being realistic.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers now are young. Generationally, everybody's on
Speaker 1: this same page. They're fun, They're just a fun team
Speaker 1: to watch. They've got a really nice spirit in Green
Speaker 1: Bay and cranky, prickly Aaron goes to New York and
Speaker 1: it's just this divorce. You know that Brady Belichick divorce
Speaker 1: was really ugly, but the Aaron green Bay divorce, it's
Speaker 1: not good. It's the opposite of Brady. Brady won his
Speaker 1: divorce Aaron's losing his Green Bay young, fun, energetic, winning,
Speaker 1: New York mess, impulsive, grumpy god. I just cannot believe
Speaker 1: that I watched the night John Middlecoff, former NFL Scout
Speaker 1: three and out podcast at the volume. Let's start, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna spend some time on Kansas City and San Francisco,
Speaker 1: both teams, you know, hemorrhaging wide receivers. And I thought,
Speaker 1: this is the real separator between Mahomes and a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: Mahomes had an ugly pick. Uh Brock had multiple picks.
Speaker 1: Brock had three, but there were three or four moments
Speaker 1: in this game, you know, the shotgun, fourth and one,
Speaker 1: Mahomes running it in the thirty three yard run. And
Speaker 1: I felt in this game it'd be easy to pick
Speaker 1: on Brock Purty because they didn't play well. But Mahomes
Speaker 1: didn't play particularly well. But there is something to be
Speaker 1: said about being resourceful, which I think Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have made a living on. They're still ham
Speaker 1: and egging this wide receiver Cort. Nobody's ever healthy.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: PERTY had to deal with that. Deebo was sixth and
Speaker 1: I you had a big drop and you gets hurt.
Speaker 1: I Listen, they're going to pay brock Purty. We know
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay him, but in this moment, and again
Speaker 1: it's Mahomes, But I thought there was a separation kind
Speaker 1: of these three or four two or three magical moments,
Speaker 1: and it felt like Mahomes had all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't really box course scout Mahomes
Speaker 2: this year. It's been pretty terrible. But half way through
Speaker 2: that game when they were you know, they didn't have
Speaker 2: a large lead, but it felt like they were in
Speaker 2: control of the game. If you just watch Mahomes always
Speaker 2: made big plays. Yes, And one thing they've done and
Speaker 2: this is where Veitch gets a ton of credit in
Speaker 2: Andy being boys with Spags and bringing him on board.
Speaker 2: They're a defensive team. Yeah, I mean that defense creates
Speaker 2: havoc the pass rush. All the ads can cover that
Speaker 2: they can lose dB after dB and they get random
Speaker 2: guys making place so everyone's on the same page because
Speaker 2: the guy's blitzing NonStop. You've got to be able to cover.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean Mahomes just comes through that. They
Speaker 2: have a little magic with him and Andy in the
Speaker 2: biggest spots. Yes, and they did benefit today from Purdy
Speaker 2: and Kyle just kind of they were a bad I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just it was the The Niners are awful
Speaker 2: in the red zone, Perdy, you cannot afford I think
Speaker 2: the question. I think there's a couple of different angles
Speaker 2: to this one. Why are we always in such a
Speaker 2: rush to pay guys that you don't know for sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, Like I got no problem paying Josh Allen after
Speaker 2: year three, paying Patrick Mahomes, even the Ravens, but it
Speaker 2: had with Lamar Jackson. I mean, yeah, Lamar Jackson's gonna
Speaker 2: go down. Besides, like ray Lewis like the second greatest
Speaker 2: player in the history of the franchise, He's not a
Speaker 2: free agent act. He's going into his fourth year. Let's
Speaker 2: take anat breath. If he keeps playing this shitty against
Speaker 2: good defenses, Minnesota, turn the ball over, tonight, turn the
Speaker 2: ball over? Now there was one might not have been
Speaker 2: his fault, but the other, like, you just need some
Speaker 2: more plays. You can't go well all these injuries. Who
Speaker 2: are the Chiefs playing with? Just make a coup of plays.
Speaker 2: No one's saying you're Patrick Mahomes. But this was a
Speaker 2: pretty winnable game for the forty nine ers, was it?
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, and Bray Tom Brady said this. He said
Speaker 1: this twice with Purty two of the bigger pretty completions downfield.
Speaker 1: Both balls were under thrown.
Speaker 2: Well, one's a touchdown at the end of the game,
Speaker 2: there's eleven minutes to go and they're down what two points?
Speaker 2: Instead he ends up throwing the pick and the ends
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I again it's I like Brock, but
Speaker 1: you know, people struggle to contextualize things like I like
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, But this is a perfect situation, justin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, good run game, excellent protection, brilliant coach, top
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Donald is now playing better and he was
Speaker 1: really good today. We'll get to that in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: But it's a perfect situation for Sam Donald. Like he
Speaker 1: went from Adam Gase a terrible situation to a perfect
Speaker 1: one and he's somewhere in between. This has always been
Speaker 1: between Shanahan Trent Williams.
Speaker 2: Kittle.
Speaker 1: So today, you know, to me, the whole game came
Speaker 1: down to the Brandon ik drop and that forces a
Speaker 1: punt McCole Hardman, big punt return. That was the game,
Speaker 1: Like that was the moment. Now, now who knows what happens.
Speaker 1: But once again San Francisco's special teams are a huge
Speaker 1: liability in a big game.
Speaker 2: Well, that's on the coach. Yeah, special teams coverage have
Speaker 2: been just horrendous since Kyle has been there. He does
Speaker 2: not care. I mean that's the only way you can
Speaker 2: sum up their special teams units. I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: kicking and punting. I mean they're on there, the third
Speaker 2: kicker in three weeks, but the actual coverage units, it's
Speaker 2: on the coach, Andy Reid, what does he do? Hied
Speaker 2: Dave Tobe Wiley considered the best special teams coach going
Speaker 2: back to Chicago with Devin Hester. See, I go even
Speaker 2: further because it's twenty one to twelve. Cowing the kid
Speaker 2: from Arizona who can fly, smokes the corner who just
Speaker 2: comes in, and even Brady's like, listen, obviously you got
Speaker 2: to hit the pass, but you hit that in stride.
Speaker 2: He walks into the end zone. So then you're down
Speaker 2: just I mean, your field goal wins the game at
Speaker 2: that point, there's eleven minutes to go. Instead, he has
Speaker 2: to stop. He gets tackled. A couple of plays later,
Speaker 2: he throws a pick and he's not Mahomes or Josh
Speaker 2: Allen as a deep ball thrower. But that wasn't the
Speaker 2: hardest deep ball to throw, Like you got to hit
Speaker 2: that in stride. But think of how the entire game
Speaker 2: is gone, no confidence, not playing well, doesn't have much
Speaker 2: cohesion with that player. It was just I just get
Speaker 2: back to this. If you have question marks about these
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and they have years to go on there, what's
Speaker 2: the difference between paying a guy fifty three million and
Speaker 2: fifty eight million. It's gonna cost you more. Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'd rather know for sure, Like at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, the Cowboys they know exactly who Dak is,
Speaker 2: So why didn't you just pay him a year and
Speaker 2: a half ago. If you're gonna pay him, it does
Speaker 2: save you twenty thirty forever. Yeah, he's their guy. He
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna go anywhere. Not that you're kicking party to
Speaker 2: the curb, but I'd never understand this rush. If we
Speaker 2: got questions, Let's just see this season play out, because
Speaker 2: when they play good defenses now Minnesota and Kansas City, like,
Speaker 2: you can't afford turnovers. You cannot afford turnovers, and this
Speaker 2: year Party the fumbles. Obviously the picks and big spots.
Speaker 2: It just cannot happen if you can't overcome them with
Speaker 2: just incredible brilliance like Mahomes somehow is doing this year
Speaker 2: because he's turned the ball over a lot, Colm, but
Speaker 2: it hasn't seemed to matter.
Speaker 1: Well as as Brady pointed out during the game, there
Speaker 1: was a stat that first and second down, Mahomes is
Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quickly. On third down he's
Speaker 1: holding it for three and a half seconds because he's
Speaker 1: trying to make big plays. But he realizes he can't
Speaker 1: do that all the time. And you know the other
Speaker 1: thing with Mahomes when he missed Worthy on that over
Speaker 1: the top throw, he overshot him. That's okay, Like he's
Speaker 1: not going to give you a chance to intercept the ball.
Speaker 1: But there were I have like six different plays here.
Speaker 1: There's a flip by him, he throws against his body
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey forhurst down. I have six. Maybe I've got
Speaker 1: sheet after sheet out or sheet of notes for this game.
Speaker 1: All six are Mahomes plays. Now that's not to say
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, Seattle's in first place in that division.
Speaker 1: But I said coming into the season, John, you can
Speaker 1: only be so old so long and Debo comes in sick,
Speaker 1: you gets banged up. This this Niner team Detroit is
Speaker 1: like a younger version of the Niners, and younger players
Speaker 1: when they do get hurt, recover more quickly. And I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like the red zone issues are mostly
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. But I kind of feel like watching Shanahan
Speaker 1: today today was a moment you're at home. Kansas City's vulnerable.
Speaker 1: No Rashi Rice players go to and they use Mkole
Speaker 1: Hardman like he's a number one, And it's just I
Speaker 1: think that you have to look at the game as
Speaker 1: a Niner fan and go, We're not beating these guys
Speaker 1: unless we got to get more special at certain places.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for a large portion of the game, And
Speaker 2: this gets back to when they struggle is they couldn't
Speaker 2: run the ball. And when Kyle can't run the ball,
Speaker 2: his passing game is built off that he can't just
Speaker 2: drop back and throw consistently. He's not comfortable calling plays
Speaker 2: like that. In my one knock on him, as he
Speaker 2: is a really good coach and he's proven to be
Speaker 2: a brilliant play caller over the years. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: call him the most adapt to the play caller. His
Speaker 2: offense is his offense. It's very specific. You know, it's
Speaker 2: completely different. But like Mike Leech ran what Mike Leech tran, right,
Speaker 2: Kyle runs what he runs, and if he's gashing you
Speaker 2: in the run game, the passing game runs off that.
Speaker 2: He can't just go like he has to keep running
Speaker 2: the ball even when it's not working, because his passing
Speaker 2: plays are all bootlegs and everything off play action instead
Speaker 2: of just spreading it out and let pretty in college
Speaker 2: and listen, I'm not acting. And one thing I've always
Speaker 2: pushed back against when people criticize he's not Josh Allen
Speaker 2: or Patrick Mahomes, but relative to the majority of guys,
Speaker 2: over the course of his career, he's been better than
Speaker 2: or equal to the Dacks, the Cousins, the gofs. But
Speaker 2: you have to rely on him sometimes, just spread it
Speaker 2: out if the run game's not working. And then you
Speaker 2: notice when they started getting back Mason started hitting some runs,
Speaker 2: and that's when Kyle's feels the most comfortable. Andy Reid
Speaker 2: is a good example. Now he's much older and much
Speaker 2: more experienced. It doesn't matter if something's working, he can
Speaker 2: write it. If it's not working, they can adapt it. Kyle.
Speaker 2: It's very, very specific, and I just think that so
Speaker 2: dependent on the run game. Like I know, Pears all
Speaker 2: came back from getting shot. So it's hard to put.
Speaker 2: But he is a first rounder. Cowing is a talented player.
Speaker 2: You got Kittle out there, Mason gets the ball, you
Speaker 2: can still throw the ball if the run games off.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs were lined up, I dare you to run
Speaker 2: the ball. We're gonna stop it, and through my majority
Speaker 2: of the game, they neutralized it.
Speaker 1: Green Bay beats Houston twenty four to twenty two. And
Speaker 1: here's why this game is important. I feel like they
Speaker 1: played each other. Green Bay is the Houston of the
Speaker 1: of the NFC. Houston is the Green Bay of the AFC.
Speaker 1: I think both through a year away. I love their rosters,
Speaker 1: I love their young coaches, and I love their cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Jordan loves better than C. J. Stroud, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: moves better. Jordan's got some real farv He's gonna have
Speaker 1: bad picks, but god, he can really let it rip.
Speaker 1: I really like wathing him play, But I feel like
Speaker 1: I watched the same team. Is that they're close right coach,
Speaker 1: right quarterback, right o line, nice weapons, not quite mature enough.
Speaker 1: There's somebody in the way, Detroit. There's somebody in the way,
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But there was an interesting moment in this
Speaker 1: game where late Houston Demico Ryans settled for a field
Speaker 1: goal and they didn't force Green Bay to burn timeouts.
Speaker 1: And I thought, well, Demiko's a defensive coach. You just
Speaker 1: you got to bake that in. These guys aren't going
Speaker 1: to go for it. But as I watched this game,
Speaker 1: I thought, these guys are not good enough to hoist
Speaker 1: a trophy. But if you told me over the next
Speaker 1: four years, because the quarterbacks I think potentially with the
Speaker 1: right weapons are in that Jared Golfer slightly above that class.
Speaker 1: Green Bays now five and two, Houston five and two.
Speaker 1: I felt like I'm watching two great franchises. After this year,
Speaker 1: they'll both be in the Super Ball bubble for about
Speaker 1: six straight years.
Speaker 2: I think Green Bay, if they get their shit together,
Speaker 2: could be a Super Bowl contender this year. And when
Speaker 2: I say that, I just mean their quarterback not throw
Speaker 2: awful interceptions. I mean he threw, he moves. He's like
Speaker 2: a mirror image of Aaron the mannerisms, the way he moves,
Speaker 2: the way his arm kind of hangs. But when the
Speaker 2: ball leaves his hands, it's like two thousand and two
Speaker 2: Brett Forth. It could be the most incredible touchdown you've
Speaker 2: see of the day, or it could be a pick
Speaker 2: hitting the guy in stride. Where you go? Is this
Speaker 2: guy gonna go seventy yards the other way? I mean
Speaker 2: today he threw two picks, one got returned I think
Speaker 2: to the eleven yard line. They had a muffed punt
Speaker 2: that led to a fumble like that, I thought Green Bay.
Speaker 2: I mean the CJ's trout even throw for one hundred yards. No,
Speaker 2: they were not very good on offense, and two of
Speaker 2: their touchdowns, definitely one of them came on the muff punt,
Speaker 2: obviously mixing having him back Nico Collins, it turns out
Speaker 2: as like they're Terrell Owens. You take him out of
Speaker 2: their offense, they kind of fall apart. But Demko's so
Speaker 2: good on offense or as a defensive coordinator, creates pressure
Speaker 2: and just creates some habit. They got to settle this
Speaker 2: guy down. That being Jordan Love in terms of even
Speaker 2: Laflora made a comment after the game about like you
Speaker 2: guys keep pushing this far of narrative. Well, yeah, he
Speaker 2: keeps throwing the ball to the other team, but he's
Speaker 2: remarkable and he's throwing three or four touchdowns every game.
Speaker 2: And in your offense. Their offense, it doesn't have the
Speaker 2: name recognition of like Saint Brown, Montgomery, Gibbs, Laporta, but
Speaker 2: you watch them, you're like, that receiver's good. That receiver's good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: new tight end's good. You're like, I've known Josh Jacobs
Speaker 2: is good for a while. That their offensive weaponry. And
Speaker 2: think about this, Colin, They're not going to be intimidated
Speaker 2: by Detroit. They're going to know each other really well.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a Niners rams from a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. So I I and honestly, I've always
Speaker 2: said this, They're actually better off not winning the division
Speaker 2: because the way they want to play on offense. Go
Speaker 2: into the dome. Okay, let's play a thirty five to
Speaker 2: thirty game, because you can't play that at Green Bay
Speaker 2: in the middle of January. Was always the downfall of
Speaker 2: Rogers teams. They have these great offenses and then they
Speaker 2: play some of these home games it's like no one
Speaker 2: can feel their hands That's why the Chiefs are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can play a negative twenty. Now we only need
Speaker 2: eighteen points away the game. Yeah. And now I think
Speaker 2: their defense, this Halfley guy that they got from Boston College,
Speaker 2: it feels like he's kind of settling down. They look
Speaker 2: a lot better much, the team speeds better. He's blitzing
Speaker 2: at the right times. I mean, their defense has been
Speaker 2: pretty atrocious over the going back to McCarthy and then
Speaker 2: early on with you know, the Joe Barry run with Lafour.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's gonna like completely turn the corner,
Speaker 2: but I feel a little more comfortable with it. I mean,
Speaker 2: today you hold CJ. Stroud, he still has take Dell
Speaker 2: out there, Diggs is out there mixing's back Shultz. I mean,
Speaker 2: they got enough firepower that he should be able to
Speaker 2: score for, you know, for over one hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 2: And it was a beautiful day. It wasn't like twenty
Speaker 2: degrees at Green Bay. It looked like it was eighty
Speaker 2: degrees outside. Even the announcers like, this doesn't get any better.
Speaker 1: Than this, No, it's so a Jordan Love twenty four
Speaker 1: to thirty three, three tds, two picks, here's what I
Speaker 1: like about it. So, first of all, Dobbs had eight catches, wicks,
Speaker 1: three craft the tight ends excellent, eleven yards of catch.
Speaker 1: Jacob's out of the backfield had fives. Terrific player Christian Watson,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they And what's funny is none
Speaker 1: of these guys make a nickel. I mean they're not
Speaker 1: paying any of these guys for like four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, his interceptions, there was there was a
Speaker 2: play late in the game when they ended up kicking
Speaker 2: the game winning field goal. I think it was like
Speaker 2: less than thirty seconds left. He let it rip like
Speaker 2: forty yards down the field. Now, he overthrew the dB
Speaker 2: and the wide receiver, but it was like, what is
Speaker 2: going like, why are you making this throw?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Which he's I'm not a Packer fan, but he keeps
Speaker 2: you on the edge of your seat when you're watching
Speaker 2: them play. Remember that was he throw a late pick
Speaker 2: in the Niner game, Yes, you know, to end that game.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that makes me nervous. It's not like
Speaker 2: golf can't do that. But right now he's not really
Speaker 2: throwing the ball in harms way. Well, where Jordan Love
Speaker 2: is throwing the ball in harms way a lot. Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, the Texans on the road
Speaker 1: averaged three point four yards of play terrible on third
Speaker 1: down we're.
Speaker 2: Allowed they got they got a muff punt at the
Speaker 2: ten yard line. That was a need he was a
Speaker 2: free touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Texans threw for fifty five yards today
Speaker 1: and have a chance to win that game. So to
Speaker 1: your point is Love is going to keep I mean
Speaker 1: the text if you look at the box score, Texans
Speaker 1: should have been beat by three touchdowns and they lose
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty two, and that I think that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of what Jordan Love gives you. It
Speaker 1: also Lafleur, to his credit, and I think an offensive
Speaker 1: coach is more willing to do this than Demko Ryans.
Speaker 1: He he lets him work his way through his mistakes,
Speaker 1: Like Lafleur is like I got an artist here. I
Speaker 1: can't box him in. I gotta let him do some
Speaker 1: of his stuff.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: One of the throws that Love likes to do and
Speaker 1: he it feels like they're almost all picked or all caught,
Speaker 1: is when he throws the rainbow ball when he's backing
Speaker 1: up and he holds it too long and he just
Speaker 1: throws a rainbow and I'm like, he's going to work
Speaker 1: himself out of that. That won't last. And because that,
Speaker 1: like he does that like four times a game.
Speaker 2: I give Lafour so much credit because a big reason
Speaker 2: they're five and two is they won the games with
Speaker 2: Malik Willis when he was gone. And now you feel
Speaker 2: like if they can just rain this guy in a
Speaker 2: little bit, and they did last year. Well sometimes and listen,
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of this. This guy has not played much football, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at c. J. Stroud has been
Speaker 2: playing for two years. Ohio State comes right to the NFL,
Speaker 2: like he's been starting every year for five straight years
Speaker 2: going back to high school. You look at some of
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, the amount of snaps they've taken. Jordan Love
Speaker 2: just sat there for three years, and there gets to
Speaker 2: a point like obviously he needed to work on his
Speaker 2: fundamentals and everything as a project, but they gets a
Speaker 2: point where you're just not playing at all, and then
Speaker 2: he gets thrust into it. We saw last year it
Speaker 2: took him a little while. Then he gets injured this year,
Speaker 2: so maybe by the second half of the season they
Speaker 2: can rain him in. I think their offense is like
Speaker 2: an unnamed I mean, the Packers fans know him, but
Speaker 2: just you know people that play fantasy, but they don't
Speaker 2: have like superstar name recognition. Yet some of these guys
Speaker 2: might turn into that by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: They might just be the same as the line just
Speaker 2: in terms of their firepower. And it's actually kind of
Speaker 2: different because of his deep ball ability. I mean, that
Speaker 2: guy at any moment can fling at fifty sixty yards.
Speaker 1: Absolutely listen, you think they're ready to win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: I think they're a year away.
Speaker 2: I really do. If I'm saying they're ready, I just
Speaker 2: think if they come in they do have the pieces
Speaker 2: that their defense is good, he plays well. If he's
Speaker 2: playing well, they could beat any team. Do you agree
Speaker 2: to that?
Speaker 1: Time for another edition of Sharp or Square? Chad Millman,
Speaker 1: CEO Action Network, I pushed at two to two and one.
Speaker 1: All of our odds provided by DraftKings. So I have
Speaker 1: been last couple of weeks I've been moving toward best quarterback.
Speaker 1: I do think defensive players statistically get hurt more than
Speaker 1: offensive players. Defenses can weaken and the quarterbacks separate. Coaching
Speaker 1: quarterbacks separate. This time every year. If you go look
Speaker 1: at the AFC, the best quarterbacks lead each division. Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins leads his. By the way, if you look at
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks playing best, I think eventually Jordan Love will
Speaker 1: lead his division. That's the time of the year we're in.
Speaker 1: So let me throw out a game that is fascinating,
Speaker 1: and this really highlights how important numbers are. So Historically,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks off concussions don't play their best the first week back.
Speaker 1: But Arizona Miami at three and a half, I'm out.
Speaker 1: But Arizona is the most inconsistent team in the league.
Speaker 1: They often have the best quarters followed by the worst halves.
Speaker 1: If it's minus two and a half or minus three Miami.
Speaker 1: I like them because Arizona High Low Hilow just beat
Speaker 1: a team that I think is better than them, the
Speaker 1: Chargers and Hardball. So what I feel is like, oh,
Speaker 1: here they go short week Monday night, Here they go
Speaker 1: cross country, you lose it and prep. Here is Tua
Speaker 1: McDaniel played terribly with absolutely something to prove. They are
Speaker 1: going to flex at They're gonna keep starters into the
Speaker 1: last play. That game interests me like Miami not only
Speaker 1: needs to win, they've been so bad for a month.
Speaker 1: They want to sell to that locker room. We are
Speaker 1: a great team. This is a new page and a
Speaker 1: new team. Forget the last month. Game fascinates me. I
Speaker 1: would take Miami minus three, but the hook because of
Speaker 1: concussions and the numbers behind those scare me. What are
Speaker 1: the sharps think on this.
Speaker 4: Now? It's like you are inside a professional better war room,
Speaker 4: because that is the exact conversation earlier this week, this
Speaker 4: line opened at three and a half. Arizona was the underdog.
Speaker 4: The professional betters at Arizona yep at three and a half.
Speaker 4: When it got to three and it even touch two
Speaker 4: and a half, professional betters started coming in on Miami
Speaker 4: and I apologize for people listening to my voice. It
Speaker 4: sounds worse than it is. Don't worry. I'm gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: The point is Miami is the team professional betters are
Speaker 4: backing for every reason you just said. They believe Tua
Speaker 4: will make this team better. More importantly, they aren't believing
Speaker 4: in Kyler Murray as a consistent winning quarterback going cross
Speaker 4: country to play the Dolphins in a desperate, desperate situation. Wise,
Speaker 4: guys are on Miami. Yeah, desperate spot, you gotta.
Speaker 1: Win, and I really do believe Miami Mike McDaniels has
Speaker 1: to rebrand this team fast because they've been the worst
Speaker 1: team in the league for about a month and they
Speaker 1: have and also they're watching the Patriots fall apart and
Speaker 1: the Jets fall apart. So it's like, guys, let's see
Speaker 1: second place, first assignment Sunday, let me get Colin.
Speaker 4: Last week, I was saying in an airport and I was
Speaker 4: going over my notes for the favorites to the show,
Speaker 4: and I couldn't remember who was playing quarterback for the
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. And that's how off the radar there. I
Speaker 4: had to look up literally Miami Dolphins starting quarterback and
Speaker 4: you know what came up, Tua. Google didn't even know
Speaker 4: who the starting quarterback for Miami was. That's how sort
Speaker 4: of forgotten they've been. So you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 4: They need to reframe who they are right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, Colts in a desperate spot plus five rival game
Speaker 1: at the Texans the Green Bay game, there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a red flag on Houston. So CJ.
Speaker 1: Strouds in year two clearly needs Joe Mixon and Nico
Speaker 1: Collins to be completed, he's getting worse protection. If you
Speaker 1: watch the past attempts and you watch the coaching, they're
Speaker 1: getting a little conservative with him. It tells you that
Speaker 1: if they're not completely healthy, the staff doesn't necessarily trust him.
Speaker 4: Yet.
Speaker 1: Conversely, Jordan Love throws ugly picks, early, bat lefloor, doubles down,
Speaker 1: throw it more. They know they've got farv on their hands.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is an aggressive thrower, and Lafleur totally backs in.
Speaker 1: But the way they're coaching, see Jay Stroud is telling
Speaker 1: me they're a little concerned with the elements around him
Speaker 1: and sometimes as a second year player, he needs though,
Speaker 1: he needs those the nicos, the Joe mixons to fortify
Speaker 1: his game. So I'm gonna take the Colts plus five.
Speaker 1: It was six on DraftKings all or odds provided by DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Sharper Square.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally sharp. In fact, it went from six
Speaker 4: and a half to six to five and a half
Speaker 4: to five. It's now at four and a half in
Speaker 4: some places. Wise, guys have been pounding the Colts. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take your theory about better quarterback and expand it
Speaker 4: because that obviously isn't the case in this scenario. But
Speaker 4: I do think one of the reasons why the public
Speaker 4: has been winning so much in the past two weeks.
Speaker 4: The public meaning if there are more than fifty one
Speaker 4: percent of the bets on one side, that is a
Speaker 4: public side. For the first five weeks of the year,
Speaker 4: the public was having its worst season in the twenty
Speaker 4: years we've been tracking this at Action Network. The past
Speaker 4: two weeks, the public is twenty two zero seven and
Speaker 4: one complete and total reversal. Obviously, Houston is going to
Speaker 4: be the public side here, but what normally happens is
Speaker 4: bad quarterbacks and bad teams with big numbers find a
Speaker 4: way to cover, and they haven't been. This is a
Speaker 4: situation where I'm extrapolating. I think it's more about good
Speaker 4: coaching and dominant unit. So you have in the Colts
Speaker 4: the number one run blocking unit in the NFL. You
Speaker 4: may get Jonathan Taylor back, you practiced yesterday for the
Speaker 4: first time off of that high ankle spring. You've got it,
Speaker 4: a great play caller in Shane Steichen who last year
Speaker 4: almost got the coat of the Playoff with Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 4: And by the way, has this team at four and
Speaker 4: three and one game out of the first place in
Speaker 4: the AFC South behind the Texans, who they only lost
Speaker 4: to by two points eReader this year. So that is
Speaker 4: why the Wise guys are coming in. One trend for
Speaker 4: you division favorites the past eight years forty six percent
Speaker 4: against the spread, So it's also a good spot.
Speaker 1: One more underdog Seattle plush three against the Bills. So, uh, Seattle.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot of Seattle when they're healthy
Speaker 1: upfront defensively, but boy did Kirk Cousins see that last week.
Speaker 1: This is a really good defensive coach with some really
Speaker 1: tasty defensive personnel. They're also getting their top cornerback. When
Speaker 1: I look at Gino Smith, I look at two ways
Speaker 1: with time and a run game. He's highly effective when
Speaker 1: rushed sometimes on the road. He's not Buffalo is not
Speaker 1: a team. Although I like them, I don't trust them.
Speaker 1: They're a much better version of Arizona and Seattle at
Speaker 1: home healthy a field goal. I this is hard for
Speaker 1: me to turn down at three and a half. It's
Speaker 1: one of the best bets of the week. At three,
Speaker 1: I'd roll with it. The Seahawks sharper square.
Speaker 4: So it's square. The Wise guys are on Buffalo, but
Speaker 4: I will tell you. I'm with you. I don't understand
Speaker 4: why they're on Buffalo. You know, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 4: We do a segment and our show called Sharp Calls
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, we talk about other games. By Thursday, when
Speaker 4: we do the next episode of the week. We've got
Speaker 4: feedback from a lot of professional betters with their opinions
Speaker 4: on what we talked about on Tuesday, and we will
Speaker 4: review those on the show. Seattle Buffalo was one of
Speaker 4: the games that we loved on Tuesday, and on Thursday
Speaker 4: we were getting a lot of calls from professional betters,
Speaker 4: so that they weren't buying Seattle's defense. They weren't buying
Speaker 4: Gino Smith, and they liked Josh Allen and the year
Speaker 4: that he's having no interceptions hasn't thrown an interception in
Speaker 4: nine games, which is coming close to record breaking status, right.
Speaker 4: But I am with you. Like the Bills beat up
Speaker 4: on bad teams, yes, and they may use or struggle
Speaker 4: against good teams. So if you're betting Seattle, then you
Speaker 4: are basically taking a stand that you think Seattle is
Speaker 4: a good team. And there is some evidence of that
Speaker 4: they have gotten healthier, but there's evidence that they're a
Speaker 4: bad team too, right, So I think that's what the
Speaker 4: wise guys are playing here at They just don't believe
Speaker 4: Seattle is a very good team yet.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go to some favorites. Bears
Speaker 1: minus two and a half at the Commanders. Even if
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels plays, he's not at one hundred percent, And
Speaker 1: you could you could clearly see with the Giants next week,
Speaker 1: if Jaden Daniels plays, gets dinged pass rush pretty good
Speaker 1: for Chicago, you could see them saying we're going to Mariota.
Speaker 1: We're going to go into divisional play. We got no interest.
Speaker 1: I think the Bears defense, because we're so fixated on
Speaker 1: Caleb and he's by the way, he is building real
Speaker 1: rapport here with his offensive set. I think the Bears
Speaker 1: defense is pretty well coached. Again, it's a numbers game.
Speaker 1: I think if Jaden Daniels plays, it will be mass protection.
Speaker 1: It will be a game in which they coach him
Speaker 1: more safely, they call a game differently. He's the difference
Speaker 1: in the franchise, and I think it's one of these
Speaker 1: games you look at and you think, listen, if we
Speaker 1: had to not play him, I mean, he hasn't practiced
Speaker 1: this week. Even if he practices Friday, you kind of
Speaker 1: wonder what you get. I like Chicago minus two and
Speaker 1: a half here a pretty strong play Sharper square.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the sharp side. And look, the betters are
Speaker 4: are almost literally banking on the idea that Jaden Daniels
Speaker 4: isn't going to play in this game because he hasn't practiced,
Speaker 4: and there is a there is a massive difference between
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels and Marcus Marrioll. Yes, the Commanders have only
Speaker 4: punted twelve times this season. That's tied with the Chiefs
Speaker 4: for the fewest since nineteen fifty. They're perfect on fourth downs,
Speaker 4: They're fifty percent on third down conversions. That is because
Speaker 4: of Jaden Daniels. That is because of the threat that
Speaker 4: he poses. That is because of what he can do
Speaker 4: as both a very accurate passer and a good runner.
Speaker 4: Without that, this is a different team. It stresses the defense,
Speaker 4: which isn't very good even from a statistical point of view,
Speaker 4: but they don't look as bad When Jayden Daniels is
Speaker 4: converting fourth downs and converting third towns. There's fewer up
Speaker 4: ortunities for the opposing offense to get on the field
Speaker 4: and score points. Kayley Williams has been a brilliant quarterback
Speaker 4: the past four weeks, and by the way, in the
Speaker 4: second half, he's covering the spread at a rate that
Speaker 4: is only compared only matched by Patrick Mahomes right now.
Speaker 4: So this coming off of by this team in this spot,
Speaker 4: it is a really good time to bet the Bears
Speaker 4: at minus two and a half. The wise guys are
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are the only team in the league that
Speaker 1: hasn't scored in the first quarter, and that matters when
Speaker 1: they go on the road to face Joe Burrow. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow when he doesn't have to throw but chooses to throw,
Speaker 1: is as good as any quarterback in this league. All
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when they're in a hole, face a different defensive.
Speaker 2: Test.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia, if they score, doesn't take big leagues. They're probably
Speaker 1: the most underachieved offense in the league based on personnel
Speaker 1: and productivity. So here's a team in Cincinnati which has
Speaker 1: shown an ability to start quickly. I think Philadelphia has
Speaker 1: got much better players, but at minus two and a half,
Speaker 1: basically season on the line, with Baltimore winning Pittsburgh winning,
Speaker 1: this is the season for Cincinnati at home. I only
Speaker 1: give up two and a half against what I think
Speaker 1: is one of the more poorly coached teams in the league,
Speaker 1: yet one of the best rosters. I'll take the Bengals
Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Sharper square, totally sharp.
Speaker 4: The public is on the Eagles, and this line has
Speaker 4: moved up. That's called the reverse line move. When the
Speaker 4: line moves in the opposite direction of where the majority
Speaker 4: of the bets are. That tells you the professional betters
Speaker 4: are coming in on the side of the team that
Speaker 4: the line moved in the direction of. That is the
Speaker 4: Bengals open to two. It's now at two and a half.
Speaker 4: This is a bet on Joe Burrow. Yep, that's all like.
Speaker 4: He's twenty two two, six and one against the spread
Speaker 4: when facing a team that just covered. Overall in his career,
Speaker 4: he's sixty three percent. He's seventy percent against teams that
Speaker 4: are over five hundred. The challenge here is everyone should
Speaker 4: be and has been, concerned about the Bengals defense. But
Speaker 4: two things. The Bengals defense has been really good defending
Speaker 4: against the long pass and explosive plays. That's the best
Speaker 4: way for the Eagles to win. We've seen it time
Speaker 4: and again. When they get the explosive plays, that's when
Speaker 4: they can break it out. The rest of the time,
Speaker 4: their offense isn't very good. We even sought against the
Speaker 4: Giants last week. So the pros are with you. They
Speaker 4: are backing Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: So you know. I love the number five. When a
Speaker 1: team is favored by four and a half to five,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a graveyard for books that they
Speaker 1: don't want to go to the that number. But they're
Speaker 1: kind of trapped. So San Francisco's at home. Dallas has
Speaker 1: not matched up well against better teams. Now Deebo had
Speaker 1: pneumonia as a pro athlete, I think he's available Sunday.
Speaker 1: I think Jennings is available. Jordan Mason's the second leading
Speaker 1: rusher in the league. He's a more than capable backup.
Speaker 1: Teams that are well coached with talent that deliver a
Speaker 1: stinker in the biggest TV game of the week always play.
Speaker 1: It's an easy team to coach hard. They will play
Speaker 1: a much better football game. They're limited. No Brandon Ayuk,
Speaker 1: no Christian They're limited. But I think they feel they
Speaker 1: not only lost to the Chiefs, they were kind of embarrassed.
Speaker 1: It was really a bad performance. I'm going to swallow
Speaker 1: the four and a half and take the Niners at home.
Speaker 4: Sharper Square, Well, you said something there that is a
Speaker 4: little bit too flip and dismissive. No Brandon Ayuk, no
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey. They might not have Deebo sam Will because
Speaker 4: the guy has pneumonia, like he was in the freaking hospital.
Speaker 4: If you look at Brock Perdy's production, a third of
Speaker 4: his production during the time he's been starting has been
Speaker 4: going to Christian McCaffrey and Brandon Aiyuk. If you include
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel, fifty percent going to those three guys. You
Speaker 4: take away those three guys, and you know what you
Speaker 4: get Brock Purdy and what he did against the Kansas
Speaker 4: City Chiefs. Like Ricky Pearsall is not Brandon I jo.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Rickey Pearsall can play right.
Speaker 4: Ronnie Bell is not Deebo Samuel. It doesn't matter how
Speaker 4: hard Kyle Shanahan coaches these guys this week. If they
Speaker 4: can't play, they can't play. So that's the real issue.
Speaker 4: It's why the wise guys took the Cowboys at six
Speaker 4: and a half, took them at five and a half
Speaker 4: took them at five down to four and a half.
Speaker 4: This thing's going to four. I would not be surprised
Speaker 4: if it's at three and a half by because the
Speaker 4: wise guy money is coming in on the Cowboys, and
Speaker 4: that's Ethan. With all the chaos of Jerry Jones calling
Speaker 4: out Mike McCarthy, who he could have fired after the
Speaker 4: Packers blew out the Cowboys, and now he's upset with
Speaker 4: McCarthy's play calling. The Cowboys are still inside. By the way,
Speaker 4: McCarthy thirteen three and one off of the buy against
Speaker 4: the spread.
Speaker 2: Okay, so a game.
Speaker 1: I want your opinion on this. It seems easy. So
Speaker 1: when Malik Neighbors was out or Cavon Thibadeaux for the Giants,
Speaker 1: it sounds alarming. But the player that really decides the
Speaker 1: fate of this team is Andrew Thomas. When bad quarterbacks
Speaker 1: don't have a left tackle, they get hideous fast. The
Speaker 1: Giants are now last year's Giants, right. They competed without
Speaker 1: Malik with Dexter Lauren, they compete without Thibadeau. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're a competitive football team. So I get the
Speaker 1: Steelers for the record. The second half against the Jets
Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing New York scott players. It was
Speaker 1: a little old Russell Wilson. He's now got a deep threat,
Speaker 1: a run game, Arthur Smith, he had protection moving well.
Speaker 1: We know the defense and motivations there. I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel sharp, but Pittsburgh minus six hosting a Giants team.
Speaker 1: Shane and Dable have been given assurance by the owner.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. It's not a frenetic behind the
Speaker 1: scenes thing. Neither wants Daniel Jones. I cannot bet Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones stand alone on the road without his left tackle.
Speaker 1: It feels like the minus six is sharp. Steelers Sharper square.
Speaker 4: It's eh, Like, no one's really interested in this game.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't a primetime game, it'd be the Core
Speaker 4: TV game because the Giants are that bad. And you're
Speaker 4: right about Andrew Thomas, like we've talked about this. When
Speaker 4: I'm handicapping and doing analysis, the first thing I'm looking
Speaker 4: at is the offensive line. One of the reasons I
Speaker 4: like the Bengals against the Eagles is because Jordan Malata
Speaker 4: is out and he's being replaced with a guy named
Speaker 4: Fred Johnson. He gives up his pressure rate as a
Speaker 4: left tackle is twenty two percent against opposing defensive ends.
Speaker 4: The average is six percent. Offensive lines dictate your ability
Speaker 4: to run the ball, protect the quarterback. Score. It's why
Speaker 4: I love the Lions so much. It's why we love
Speaker 4: them so much. Last weekends the Vikings, it's why we
Speaker 4: hate them. We hate the Giants against the Eagles. I
Speaker 4: hate the Giants against the Steelers too. It's not a
Speaker 4: great spot like a team that's been blown out against
Speaker 4: a team that did the blowing out. That's a bad
Speaker 4: formula if you want to be a better it's very
Speaker 4: public to take the Steelers right now. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: it's the wrong side, but it's not the sharp side.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's always a game. I'm interested in your opinion.
Speaker 1: Jets minus seven at New England. They humiliated New England
Speaker 1: the first time. Drake may look pretty good last week.
Speaker 1: The Jets are a circus. I mean it's they look
Speaker 1: like they're significantly worse on defense without their best coach,
Speaker 1: Robert Sola. He was their best coach. They're not as
Speaker 1: good in the two games defensively without him. Offensively, the
Speaker 1: first game they used motion. Aaron Rodgers doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: By the second game with the new coordinator, their motion
Speaker 1: was cut in half. That is so Aaron. He doesn't
Speaker 1: like motion. He wants to go to the line, keep
Speaker 1: it clean, all make the call. It's begging me to
Speaker 1: take New England. Tell me where I should go.
Speaker 4: Well, if you want to bet this game, which you
Speaker 4: shouldn't want to, and you definitely should not want to
Speaker 4: make it one of your blazing five because you're on
Speaker 4: a streak right now, you take New England. Right, You've
Speaker 4: got Drake May, he's proving he can throw the ball.
Speaker 4: You've got a depleted Jets secondary, which we saw last week.
Speaker 4: Like every single play I felt like another Jets player
Speaker 4: was going out. Even Sauce Gardner got banged up a
Speaker 4: little bit in last week's game. But you don't want
Speaker 4: to play this game. There are four big ish underdogs
Speaker 4: this week, the Jets, the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders.
Speaker 4: There are two games wise, guys want to play the underdogs,
Speaker 4: one game they completely want to ignore, and one game
Speaker 4: in which they want to play the favorites, The Patriots
Speaker 4: Jets is the game they want to ignore.
Speaker 1: All right, you always give me a game that I
Speaker 1: missed completely? What say you?
Speaker 4: Well, look, we talked about some good ones since the
Speaker 4: Indie I love those games. We talked about Chicago. We
Speaker 4: haven't talked about Cleveland and Las Vegas and their matchups
Speaker 4: against the Ravens and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I can't stomach both. Just give me one, pick one.
Speaker 4: It's so hard, Like the wise guys love them both.
Speaker 4: At this point, you're better off just betting the number,
Speaker 4: and like it's a little bit more of a number,
Speaker 4: higher number with the Raiders and the Chiefs than it
Speaker 4: is with the Browns and the Ravens. I lean If
Speaker 4: I have to choose only one of them, I lean Browns.
Speaker 4: I think they're closer to getting better. And again subscribing
Speaker 4: to the theory that if I'm going to bet on
Speaker 4: a really bad team that is a big underdog, I
Speaker 4: want that team to at least have one dominant unit.
Speaker 4: And the Browns do have a dominant defensive end in
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, who wasn't even on the injury report this week.
Speaker 4: They have a dominant cornerback and Denzel Ward, who's been
Speaker 4: playing great all season long. The Ravens do give up
Speaker 4: a lot of points this most points in the second
Speaker 4: half this season. Along with the Titans, So there is
Speaker 4: an opportunity for Jamis if he decides to go crazy
Speaker 4: in the second half, for them to pull off a
Speaker 4: backdoor cover. I worry about the Raiders. Mahomes has a
Speaker 4: bad record as a favorite of more than three, but
Speaker 4: that record has been getting better the past two seasons.
Speaker 4: He's nine six and one against the spread as a
Speaker 4: favorite of more than three the past two seasons. So
Speaker 4: you got to look at it not just holistically, but
Speaker 4: in some recency. And this team, they're turning the ball over,
Speaker 4: they can't get off, they can't stay on the field
Speaker 4: on third down. I just worry they're not going to
Speaker 4: have that many opportunities to score against the Chiefs defense
Speaker 4: that is pretty good. So the one thing they have
Speaker 4: going for them is brock Bauers has the most receptions
Speaker 4: for a rookie tight end since two thousand and the
Speaker 4: one thing the Chiefs haven't been able to do this year.
Speaker 4: They couldn't guard Kittle, they couldn't guard Isaiah Likely, they
Speaker 4: couldn't guard Mike. For the Bengals, all of them had
Speaker 4: either close to one hundred or just under one hundred
Speaker 4: yards receiving, but none of them won the game. So
Speaker 4: I lean Browns. If I have to choose one of them,
Speaker 4: I don't want to, but that's what I would do.
Speaker 1: By the way, Packers minus three and a half at
Speaker 1: the Jaguars screams Jags, doesn't it?
Speaker 4: Yes on it Screamshags so much it's moved from four
Speaker 4: and a half to four to three and a half.
Speaker 4: I think at three and a half you're sort of
Speaker 4: at the bleeding edge of what the wise guys would do.
Speaker 4: They're really not that interested in it, but they would
Speaker 4: still do it because they're getting the hook. But you
Speaker 4: missed the best of the number on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chad Miller. You want to talk about
Speaker 1: the Lions, Well, they played a brilliant football game, and
Speaker 1: so I don't think teams play perfect back to back.
Speaker 1: So let's discuss the number. So my rule, the biggest
Speaker 1: number on the board I throw out. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a sucker. Detroit minus eleven and a half
Speaker 1: hosting Tennessee, so you're off a huge, intense divisional game.
Speaker 1: Tennessee is a seller now near the trade deadline, they're
Speaker 1: moving off people. That worries me in the locker room.
Speaker 1: You know, Detroit's a better team what say you on
Speaker 1: the line eleven and a half. That's a college line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's massive, and I'd almost always ignore it. But
Speaker 4: I have bet the Lions, full disclosure, I bet him
Speaker 4: at ten and a half. I don't hate at eleven.
Speaker 4: This game is power rated by professional betters closer to
Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen. But the bookmakers know they can't post
Speaker 4: a thirteen, they can't post a fourteen. They'll immediately get
Speaker 4: money on Tennessee at that big of a number, and
Speaker 4: it's totally realistic for the game to land around, you know,
Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen. But again it goes back to the
Speaker 4: offensive line. This is a dominant team. Is the best
Speaker 4: team in the NFC, bar Nutt. They are on a
Speaker 4: collision course with the Chiefs to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Jared Goff is the best quarterback against the spread in
Speaker 4: the NFL the past several seasons. The Lions the past
Speaker 4: four seasons seventy against the spread. That is an unmatched
Speaker 4: trend for them other than the New England Patriots of
Speaker 4: their middle aughts dynasty, Middle teams dynasty. So I don't
Speaker 4: hate the Lions here. If I'm betting any of the
Speaker 4: big favorites it's going to be on the Lions fair.
Speaker 1: Enough, Chad Millman, Sharper Square, get better, Get well, my friend.
Speaker 4: Thank you sir.
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