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Speaker 1: Time today. What time is it? Game Time? First of all,

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Speaker 1: this week, they rumors came out that Cooper Cup and

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford were on the trade block. Cooper Cup, I

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Speaker 1: believe you see how often they targeted Puka Nakua. He's

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Speaker 1: their future. Cooper Cup's good, but he's brittle. He struggles.

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Speaker 1: He's like an old NBA player. He struggles on like

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Speaker 1: back to back games on turf. You know, he's a guy.

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Speaker 1: Ideally for him and his body, you'd play him about

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Speaker 1: ten weeks a year. But for a good team, like

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Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh team that's playing well, Now you get a

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Speaker 1: third fourth round pick for Cooper Cup. With Pickens on

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Speaker 1: the sideline routes, you'd have a real team. You know

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Speaker 1: he would be a boost. But for the Rams, you

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams. I said this today on FS one.

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Speaker 1: There's no question in that division. San Francisco is not

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Speaker 1: same game. The Rams are now three and four. Remember

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Speaker 1: last year slow start, they won seven of their last eight,

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Speaker 1: I get it because of Poka Nakua, and I did

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Speaker 1: not expect Poka Naku would have played tonight. That's why

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Speaker 1: I had the vikings and the under on the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think Pooka n Aku was gonna play. And

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Speaker 1: not justin Jefferson great, but he's a He's a ten target,

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Speaker 1: round or two. But the Matt Stafford trade rumors are

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Speaker 1: just don't make any sense to me. He's got this

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Speaker 1: But there's just not There's nobody in the next two

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Speaker 1: college drafts that is close to this. And Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: didn't want to start over with some you know, half

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Speaker 1: And that's what my couple sources who I've talked about

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Speaker 1: just this last draft was great quarterback draft. Next two

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Speaker 1: last year and I'll say it again. They need a

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Speaker 1: He's just a good old Texas Southern guy loves football

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Speaker 1: the NFC West. The Chargers lose to Arizona seventeen fifteen.

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Speaker 1: have another young coach. Cross your fingers on that. This

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Speaker 1: or Jordan Love's movement was today. Go look around the

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Speaker 1: league in the morning. Trevor Lawrence moving, that's winning football games,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's movement today. Aaron is a pocket only quarterback

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Speaker 1: with some flips, quick passes, didn't stay in the pocket

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Speaker 1: very long the receiving course. Okay, now, Mike Williams even

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Speaker 1: made a catch tonight, but Russell was the better quarterback

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Speaker 1: and it was ugly early, but you got to get

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Speaker 1: over first impressions. This is a two and five football team.

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Speaker 1: Thank god they played the Patriots again. They play the

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Speaker 1: Jags later, So I mean, New York's got all sorts

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Speaker 1: of opportunities, but we're gonna have to be totally honest here.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, with this defense and this culture and this

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Speaker 1: head coach and this run game is going to end

439
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Speaker 1: up having a better year than Aaron Rodgers with that

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Speaker 1: interim coach and that crappy culture and that bad owner

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Speaker 1: and a hit and misrun games, couldn't run the ball tonight.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny Aaron and Russell Wilson. I can't

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Speaker 1: speak for Russell. I don't think Russell spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time thinking about Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron has never

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Speaker 1: been a fan of Russell Wilson. You know, Aaron, I

446
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's spiritual. I'm not sure if he's agnostic,

447
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Speaker 1: but he's spiritual. Always kind of rolled his eyes at

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. It was pretty understood in the league, So

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Speaker 1: to lose to Russell Wilson is you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: I would imagine kind of digs and Aaron Rodgers, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could botch that game tonight and

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Speaker 1: be confused. Russell was much more under control, had a

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Speaker 1: better run game, had a better coach. But that's part

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Speaker 1: of it. So, you know, it's funny. When Russell first

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Speaker 1: went to Pittsburgh, my take was, oh, it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good spot. It won't be a heavy lift for him.

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Speaker 1: He's got pickings on the outside, got a couple of

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Speaker 1: good backs, it's a good culture. And then you know

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Speaker 1: he calf injury, loses his job to Justin Fields. You know,

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Speaker 1: you just you're just tearing things that you know. Is

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Speaker 1: he a Steeler? I mean the press, the leaks, but

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Speaker 1: you're watching him tonight, man, and I'm like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's better than Justin Field's. He was more under control

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Speaker 1: his cadence at the line of scrimmage. He was more

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Speaker 1: under control. So we got to be fair about this stuff.

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Speaker 1: What do he looked like in the first quarter and

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Speaker 1: what he looked like in the second half two different things.

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Speaker 1: And the Jets, I mean, I said going into the

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Speaker 1: weekend it was one of my picks of the week.

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Speaker 1: Then the staff here at the volumes like, are you sure?

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Speaker 1: My blazing five? Two wins, two losses and a push,

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Speaker 1: But this was my second favorite moment of the week.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Russell hasn't played, he's coming off a calf injury.

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Speaker 1: The locker room kind of like Justin Fields, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Big Ben is like you can't see him. There was

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Speaker 1: literally nobody around the Steeler organization outside of it that

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Speaker 1: thought it was a good move. There was nobody, I

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Speaker 1: mean big Ben talk show hosts, I follow Pittsburgh media,

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Speaker 1: nobody liked the Russell Wilson move. And by the end

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Speaker 1: of this game, you're like, of course, it felt like

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Speaker 1: it was the right move. He was just I kind

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Speaker 1: of just felt like he's been in so many games

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Speaker 1: and so many standalone games, it wasn't too big for him.

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Speaker 1: And you know, what a messy season for a franchise

485
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Speaker 1: that cannot get out of its way. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: think about this, go look at the green Bay Packers. Now.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers are human. They've got a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: They've got incredible chemistry in that locker room with all

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Speaker 1: those receivers and tight ends for the Packers. What a

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Speaker 1: fun team to be part of. And it's now when

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Speaker 1: you look at the Packers, how lucky are they to

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Speaker 1: have moved on from the toxicity of Aaron. I'm being realistic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers now are young. Generationally, everybody's on

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Speaker 1: this same page. They're fun, They're just a fun team

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Speaker 1: to watch. They've got a really nice spirit in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay and cranky, prickly Aaron goes to New York and

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Speaker 1: it's just this divorce. You know that Brady Belichick divorce

498
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Speaker 1: was really ugly, but the Aaron green Bay divorce, it's

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Speaker 1: not good. It's the opposite of Brady. Brady won his

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Speaker 1: divorce Aaron's losing his Green Bay young, fun, energetic, winning,

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Speaker 1: New York mess, impulsive, grumpy god. I just cannot believe

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Speaker 1: that I watched the night John Middlecoff, former NFL Scout

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Speaker 1: three and out podcast at the volume. Let's start, and

504
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Speaker 1: we're gonna spend some time on Kansas City and San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: both teams, you know, hemorrhaging wide receivers. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: this is the real separator between Mahomes and a good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes had an ugly pick. Uh Brock had multiple picks.

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Speaker 1: Brock had three, but there were three or four moments

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Speaker 1: in this game, you know, the shotgun, fourth and one,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes running it in the thirty three yard run. And

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Speaker 1: I felt in this game it'd be easy to pick

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Speaker 1: on Brock Purty because they didn't play well. But Mahomes

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Speaker 1: didn't play particularly well. But there is something to be

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Speaker 1: said about being resourceful, which I think Andy Reid and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have made a living on. They're still ham

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Speaker 1: and egging this wide receiver Cort. Nobody's ever healthy.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: PERTY had to deal with that. Deebo was sixth and

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Speaker 1: I you had a big drop and you gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: I Listen, they're going to pay brock Purty. We know

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Speaker 1: they're gonna pay him, but in this moment, and again

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Speaker 1: it's Mahomes, But I thought there was a separation kind

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Speaker 1: of these three or four two or three magical moments,

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Speaker 1: and it felt like Mahomes had all of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't really box course scout Mahomes

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Speaker 2: this year. It's been pretty terrible. But half way through

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Speaker 2: that game when they were you know, they didn't have

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Speaker 2: a large lead, but it felt like they were in

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Speaker 2: control of the game. If you just watch Mahomes always

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Speaker 2: made big plays. Yes, And one thing they've done and

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Speaker 2: this is where Veitch gets a ton of credit in

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Speaker 2: Andy being boys with Spags and bringing him on board.

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Speaker 2: They're a defensive team. Yeah, I mean that defense creates

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Speaker 2: havoc the pass rush. All the ads can cover that

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Speaker 2: they can lose dB after dB and they get random

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Speaker 2: guys making place so everyone's on the same page because

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Speaker 2: the guy's blitzing NonStop. You've got to be able to cover.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean Mahomes just comes through that. They

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Speaker 2: have a little magic with him and Andy in the

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Speaker 2: biggest spots. Yes, and they did benefit today from Purdy

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Speaker 2: and Kyle just kind of they were a bad I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was just it was the The Niners are awful

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Speaker 2: in the red zone, Perdy, you cannot afford I think

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Speaker 2: the question. I think there's a couple of different angles

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Speaker 2: to this one. Why are we always in such a

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Speaker 2: rush to pay guys that you don't know for sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, Like I got no problem paying Josh Allen after

549
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Speaker 2: year three, paying Patrick Mahomes, even the Ravens, but it

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Speaker 2: had with Lamar Jackson. I mean, yeah, Lamar Jackson's gonna

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Speaker 2: go down. Besides, like ray Lewis like the second greatest

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Speaker 2: player in the history of the franchise, He's not a

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Speaker 2: free agent act. He's going into his fourth year. Let's

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Speaker 2: take anat breath. If he keeps playing this shitty against

555
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Speaker 2: good defenses, Minnesota, turn the ball over, tonight, turn the

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Speaker 2: ball over? Now there was one might not have been

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Speaker 2: his fault, but the other, like, you just need some

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Speaker 2: more plays. You can't go well all these injuries. Who

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Speaker 2: are the Chiefs playing with? Just make a coup of plays.

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Speaker 2: No one's saying you're Patrick Mahomes. But this was a

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Speaker 2: pretty winnable game for the forty nine ers, was it?

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Speaker 1: Not Yeah, and Bray Tom Brady said this. He said

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Speaker 1: this twice with Purty two of the bigger pretty completions downfield.

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Speaker 1: Both balls were under thrown.

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Speaker 2: Well, one's a touchdown at the end of the game,

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Speaker 2: there's eleven minutes to go and they're down what two points?

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Speaker 2: Instead he ends up throwing the pick and the ends

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I again it's I like Brock, but

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Speaker 1: you know, people struggle to contextualize things like I like

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, But this is a perfect situation, justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, good run game, excellent protection, brilliant coach, top

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Donald is now playing better and he was

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Speaker 1: really good today. We'll get to that in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: But it's a perfect situation for Sam Donald. Like he

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Speaker 1: went from Adam Gase a terrible situation to a perfect

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Speaker 1: one and he's somewhere in between. This has always been

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Speaker 1: between Shanahan Trent Williams.

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Speaker 2: Kittle.

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Speaker 1: So today, you know, to me, the whole game came

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Speaker 1: down to the Brandon ik drop and that forces a

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Speaker 1: punt McCole Hardman, big punt return. That was the game,

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Speaker 1: Like that was the moment. Now, now who knows what happens.

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Speaker 1: But once again San Francisco's special teams are a huge

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Speaker 1: liability in a big game.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's on the coach. Yeah, special teams coverage have

587
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Speaker 2: been just horrendous since Kyle has been there. He does

588
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: not care. I mean that's the only way you can

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Speaker 2: sum up their special teams units. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 2: kicking and punting. I mean they're on there, the third

591
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Speaker 2: kicker in three weeks, but the actual coverage units, it's

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Speaker 2: on the coach, Andy Reid, what does he do? Hied

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Speaker 2: Dave Tobe Wiley considered the best special teams coach going

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Speaker 2: back to Chicago with Devin Hester. See, I go even

595
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Speaker 2: further because it's twenty one to twelve. Cowing the kid

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Speaker 2: from Arizona who can fly, smokes the corner who just

597
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: comes in, and even Brady's like, listen, obviously you got

598
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Speaker 2: to hit the pass, but you hit that in stride.

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00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: He walks into the end zone. So then you're down

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Speaker 2: just I mean, your field goal wins the game at

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Speaker 2: that point, there's eleven minutes to go. Instead, he has

602
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Speaker 2: to stop. He gets tackled. A couple of plays later,

603
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Speaker 2: he throws a pick and he's not Mahomes or Josh

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00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: Allen as a deep ball thrower. But that wasn't the

605
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: hardest deep ball to throw, Like you got to hit

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Speaker 2: that in stride. But think of how the entire game

607
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Speaker 2: is gone, no confidence, not playing well, doesn't have much

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Speaker 2: cohesion with that player. It was just I just get

609
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: back to this. If you have question marks about these

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and they have years to go on there, what's

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Speaker 2: the difference between paying a guy fifty three million and

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Speaker 2: fifty eight million. It's gonna cost you more. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather know for sure, Like at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, the Cowboys they know exactly who Dak is,

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Speaker 2: So why didn't you just pay him a year and

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Speaker 2: a half ago. If you're gonna pay him, it does

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Speaker 2: save you twenty thirty forever. Yeah, he's their guy. He

618
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna go anywhere. Not that you're kicking party to

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Speaker 2: the curb, but I'd never understand this rush. If we

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Speaker 2: got questions, Let's just see this season play out, because

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Speaker 2: when they play good defenses now Minnesota and Kansas City, like,

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Speaker 2: you can't afford turnovers. You cannot afford turnovers, and this

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Speaker 2: year Party the fumbles. Obviously the picks and big spots.

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Speaker 2: It just cannot happen if you can't overcome them with

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Speaker 2: just incredible brilliance like Mahomes somehow is doing this year

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Speaker 2: because he's turned the ball over a lot, Colm, but

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Speaker 2: it hasn't seemed to matter.

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Speaker 1: Well as as Brady pointed out during the game, there

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Speaker 1: was a stat that first and second down, Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quickly. On third down he's

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Speaker 1: holding it for three and a half seconds because he's

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Speaker 1: trying to make big plays. But he realizes he can't

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Speaker 1: do that all the time. And you know the other

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00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: thing with Mahomes when he missed Worthy on that over

635
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: the top throw, he overshot him. That's okay, Like he's

636
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Speaker 1: not going to give you a chance to intercept the ball.

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Speaker 1: But there were I have like six different plays here.

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Speaker 1: There's a flip by him, he throws against his body

639
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey forhurst down. I have six. Maybe I've got

640
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: sheet after sheet out or sheet of notes for this game.

641
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: All six are Mahomes plays. Now that's not to say

642
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, Seattle's in first place in that division.

643
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: But I said coming into the season, John, you can

644
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: only be so old so long and Debo comes in sick,

645
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: you gets banged up. This this Niner team Detroit is

646
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: like a younger version of the Niners, and younger players

647
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: when they do get hurt, recover more quickly. And I

648
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: kind of feel like the red zone issues are mostly

649
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. But I kind of feel like watching Shanahan

650
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: today today was a moment you're at home. Kansas City's vulnerable.

651
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: No Rashi Rice players go to and they use Mkole

652
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: Hardman like he's a number one, And it's just I

653
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: think that you have to look at the game as

654
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: a Niner fan and go, We're not beating these guys

655
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: unless we got to get more special at certain places.

656
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it.

657
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for a large portion of the game, And

658
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: this gets back to when they struggle is they couldn't

659
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: run the ball. And when Kyle can't run the ball,

660
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: his passing game is built off that he can't just

661
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: drop back and throw consistently. He's not comfortable calling plays

662
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: like that. In my one knock on him, as he

663
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: is a really good coach and he's proven to be

664
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: a brilliant play caller over the years. But I wouldn't

665
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: call him the most adapt to the play caller. His

666
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: offense is his offense. It's very specific. You know, it's

667
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: completely different. But like Mike Leech ran what Mike Leech tran, right,

668
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: Kyle runs what he runs, and if he's gashing you

669
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: in the run game, the passing game runs off that.

670
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: He can't just go like he has to keep running

671
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: the ball even when it's not working, because his passing

672
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: plays are all bootlegs and everything off play action instead

673
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: of just spreading it out and let pretty in college

674
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: and listen, I'm not acting. And one thing I've always

675
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: pushed back against when people criticize he's not Josh Allen

676
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: or Patrick Mahomes, but relative to the majority of guys,

677
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: over the course of his career, he's been better than

678
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: or equal to the Dacks, the Cousins, the gofs. But

679
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: you have to rely on him sometimes, just spread it

680
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: out if the run game's not working. And then you

681
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: notice when they started getting back Mason started hitting some runs,

682
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: and that's when Kyle's feels the most comfortable. Andy Reid

683
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: is a good example. Now he's much older and much

684
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: more experienced. It doesn't matter if something's working, he can

685
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: write it. If it's not working, they can adapt it. Kyle.

686
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: It's very, very specific, and I just think that so

687
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: dependent on the run game. Like I know, Pears all

688
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: came back from getting shot. So it's hard to put.

689
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: But he is a first rounder. Cowing is a talented player.

690
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: You got Kittle out there, Mason gets the ball, you

691
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: can still throw the ball if the run games off.

692
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: The Chiefs were lined up, I dare you to run

693
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: the ball. We're gonna stop it, and through my majority

694
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: of the game, they neutralized it.

695
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay beats Houston twenty four to twenty two. And

696
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: here's why this game is important. I feel like they

697
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: played each other. Green Bay is the Houston of the

698
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: of the NFC. Houston is the Green Bay of the AFC.

699
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: I think both through a year away. I love their rosters,

700
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: I love their young coaches, and I love their cornerbacks.

701
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: Jordan loves better than C. J. Stroud, in my opinion,

702
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: moves better. Jordan's got some real farv He's gonna have

703
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: bad picks, but god, he can really let it rip.

704
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: I really like wathing him play, But I feel like

705
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: I watched the same team. Is that they're close right coach,

706
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: right quarterback, right o line, nice weapons, not quite mature enough.

707
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: There's somebody in the way, Detroit. There's somebody in the way,

708
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But there was an interesting moment in this

709
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: game where late Houston Demico Ryans settled for a field

710
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: goal and they didn't force Green Bay to burn timeouts.

711
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: And I thought, well, Demiko's a defensive coach. You just

712
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: you got to bake that in. These guys aren't going

713
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: to go for it. But as I watched this game,

714
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: I thought, these guys are not good enough to hoist

715
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: a trophy. But if you told me over the next

716
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: four years, because the quarterbacks I think potentially with the

717
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: right weapons are in that Jared Golfer slightly above that class.

718
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Green Bays now five and two, Houston five and two.

719
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: I felt like I'm watching two great franchises. After this year,

720
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: they'll both be in the Super Ball bubble for about

721
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: six straight years.

722
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: I think Green Bay, if they get their shit together,

723
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: could be a Super Bowl contender this year. And when

724
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: I say that, I just mean their quarterback not throw

725
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: awful interceptions. I mean he threw, he moves. He's like

726
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: a mirror image of Aaron the mannerisms, the way he moves,

727
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: the way his arm kind of hangs. But when the

728
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: ball leaves his hands, it's like two thousand and two

729
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Brett Forth. It could be the most incredible touchdown you've

730
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: see of the day, or it could be a pick

731
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: hitting the guy in stride. Where you go? Is this

732
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: guy gonna go seventy yards the other way? I mean

733
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: today he threw two picks, one got returned I think

734
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: to the eleven yard line. They had a muffed punt

735
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: that led to a fumble like that, I thought Green Bay.

736
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: I mean the CJ's trout even throw for one hundred yards. No,

737
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: they were not very good on offense, and two of

738
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: their touchdowns, definitely one of them came on the muff punt,

739
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: obviously mixing having him back Nico Collins, it turns out

740
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: as like they're Terrell Owens. You take him out of

741
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: their offense, they kind of fall apart. But Demko's so

742
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: good on offense or as a defensive coordinator, creates pressure

743
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: and just creates some habit. They got to settle this

744
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: guy down. That being Jordan Love in terms of even

745
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Laflora made a comment after the game about like you

746
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: guys keep pushing this far of narrative. Well, yeah, he

747
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: keeps throwing the ball to the other team, but he's

748
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: remarkable and he's throwing three or four touchdowns every game.

749
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: And in your offense. Their offense, it doesn't have the

750
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: name recognition of like Saint Brown, Montgomery, Gibbs, Laporta, but

751
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: you watch them, you're like, that receiver's good. That receiver's good. Yeah,

752
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: new tight end's good. You're like, I've known Josh Jacobs

753
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: is good for a while. That their offensive weaponry. And

754
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: think about this, Colin, They're not going to be intimidated

755
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: by Detroit. They're going to know each other really well.

756
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a Niners rams from a couple

757
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: of years ago. So I I and honestly, I've always

758
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: said this, They're actually better off not winning the division

759
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: because the way they want to play on offense. Go

760
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: into the dome. Okay, let's play a thirty five to

761
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: thirty game, because you can't play that at Green Bay

762
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: in the middle of January. Was always the downfall of

763
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: Rogers teams. They have these great offenses and then they

764
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: play some of these home games it's like no one

765
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: can feel their hands That's why the Chiefs are like, yeah,

766
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: we can play a negative twenty. Now we only need

767
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: eighteen points away the game. Yeah. And now I think

768
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: their defense, this Halfley guy that they got from Boston College,

769
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: it feels like he's kind of settling down. They look

770
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: a lot better much, the team speeds better. He's blitzing

771
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: at the right times. I mean, their defense has been

772
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: pretty atrocious over the going back to McCarthy and then

773
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: early on with you know, the Joe Barry run with Lafour.

774
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's gonna like completely turn the corner,

775
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: but I feel a little more comfortable with it. I mean,

776
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: today you hold CJ. Stroud, he still has take Dell

777
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: out there, Diggs is out there mixing's back Shultz. I mean,

778
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: they got enough firepower that he should be able to

779
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: score for, you know, for over one hundred and fifty yards.

780
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: And it was a beautiful day. It wasn't like twenty

781
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: degrees at Green Bay. It looked like it was eighty

782
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: degrees outside. Even the announcers like, this doesn't get any better.

783
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: Than this, No, it's so a Jordan Love twenty four

784
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: to thirty three, three tds, two picks, here's what I

785
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: like about it. So, first of all, Dobbs had eight catches, wicks,

786
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: three craft the tight ends excellent, eleven yards of catch.

787
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: Jacob's out of the backfield had fives. Terrific player Christian Watson,

788
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they And what's funny is none

789
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: of these guys make a nickel. I mean they're not

790
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: paying any of these guys for like four years.

791
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, his interceptions, there was there was a

792
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: play late in the game when they ended up kicking

793
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: the game winning field goal. I think it was like

794
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: less than thirty seconds left. He let it rip like

795
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: forty yards down the field. Now, he overthrew the dB

796
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: and the wide receiver, but it was like, what is

797
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: going like, why are you making this throw?

798
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: Right?

799
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: Which he's I'm not a Packer fan, but he keeps

800
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: you on the edge of your seat when you're watching

801
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: them play. Remember that was he throw a late pick

802
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: in the Niner game, Yes, you know, to end that game.

803
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: That's the thing that makes me nervous. It's not like

804
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: golf can't do that. But right now he's not really

805
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: throwing the ball in harms way. Well, where Jordan Love

806
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: is throwing the ball in harms way a lot. Well.

807
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, the Texans on the road

808
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: averaged three point four yards of play terrible on third

809
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: down we're.

810
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: Allowed they got they got a muff punt at the

811
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: ten yard line. That was a need he was a

812
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: free touchdown.

813
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the Texans threw for fifty five yards today

814
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: and have a chance to win that game. So to

815
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: your point is Love is going to keep I mean

816
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: the text if you look at the box score, Texans

817
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: should have been beat by three touchdowns and they lose

818
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty two, and that I think that's

819
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of what Jordan Love gives you. It

820
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: also Lafleur, to his credit, and I think an offensive

821
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: coach is more willing to do this than Demko Ryans.

822
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: He he lets him work his way through his mistakes,

823
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Like Lafleur is like I got an artist here. I

824
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: can't box him in. I gotta let him do some

825
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: of his stuff.

826
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: You know.

827
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: One of the throws that Love likes to do and

828
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: he it feels like they're almost all picked or all caught,

829
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: is when he throws the rainbow ball when he's backing

830
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: up and he holds it too long and he just

831
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: throws a rainbow and I'm like, he's going to work

832
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: himself out of that. That won't last. And because that,

833
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: like he does that like four times a game.

834
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: I give Lafour so much credit because a big reason

835
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: they're five and two is they won the games with

836
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: Malik Willis when he was gone. And now you feel

837
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: like if they can just rain this guy in a

838
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: little bit, and they did last year. Well sometimes and listen,

839
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of this. This guy has not played much football, right.

840
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at c. J. Stroud has been

841
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: playing for two years. Ohio State comes right to the NFL,

842
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: like he's been starting every year for five straight years

843
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: going back to high school. You look at some of

844
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, the amount of snaps they've taken. Jordan Love

845
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: just sat there for three years, and there gets to

846
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: a point like obviously he needed to work on his

847
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: fundamentals and everything as a project, but they gets a

848
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: point where you're just not playing at all, and then

849
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: he gets thrust into it. We saw last year it

850
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: took him a little while. Then he gets injured this year,

851
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: so maybe by the second half of the season they

852
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: can rain him in. I think their offense is like

853
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: an unnamed I mean, the Packers fans know him, but

854
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: just you know people that play fantasy, but they don't

855
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: have like superstar name recognition. Yet some of these guys

856
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: might turn into that by the end of the year.

857
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: They might just be the same as the line just

858
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: in terms of their firepower. And it's actually kind of

859
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: different because of his deep ball ability. I mean, that

860
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: guy at any moment can fling at fifty sixty yards.

861
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely listen, you think they're ready to win a Super Bowl?

862
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: I think they're a year away.

863
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: I really do. If I'm saying they're ready, I just

864
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: think if they come in they do have the pieces

865
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: that their defense is good, he plays well. If he's

866
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: playing well, they could beat any team. Do you agree

867
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: to that?

868
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: Time for another edition of Sharp or Square? Chad Millman,

869
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: CEO Action Network, I pushed at two to two and one.

870
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: All of our odds provided by DraftKings. So I have

871
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: been last couple of weeks I've been moving toward best quarterback.

872
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I do think defensive players statistically get hurt more than

873
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: offensive players. Defenses can weaken and the quarterbacks separate. Coaching

874
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: quarterbacks separate. This time every year. If you go look

875
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: at the AFC, the best quarterbacks lead each division. Kirk

876
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Cousins leads his. By the way, if you look at

877
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks playing best, I think eventually Jordan Love will

878
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: lead his division. That's the time of the year we're in.

879
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: So let me throw out a game that is fascinating,

880
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: and this really highlights how important numbers are. So Historically,

881
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks off concussions don't play their best the first week back.

882
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: But Arizona Miami at three and a half, I'm out.

883
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: But Arizona is the most inconsistent team in the league.

884
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: They often have the best quarters followed by the worst halves.

885
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: If it's minus two and a half or minus three Miami.

886
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: I like them because Arizona High Low Hilow just beat

887
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: a team that I think is better than them, the

888
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Chargers and Hardball. So what I feel is like, oh,

889
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: here they go short week Monday night, Here they go

890
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: cross country, you lose it and prep. Here is Tua

891
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: McDaniel played terribly with absolutely something to prove. They are

892
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: going to flex at They're gonna keep starters into the

893
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: last play. That game interests me like Miami not only

894
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: needs to win, they've been so bad for a month.

895
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: They want to sell to that locker room. We are

896
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: a great team. This is a new page and a

897
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: new team. Forget the last month. Game fascinates me. I

898
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: would take Miami minus three, but the hook because of

899
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: concussions and the numbers behind those scare me. What are

900
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: the sharps think on this.

901
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: Now? It's like you are inside a professional better war room,

902
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: because that is the exact conversation earlier this week, this

903
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: line opened at three and a half. Arizona was the underdog.

904
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: The professional betters at Arizona yep at three and a half.

905
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 4: When it got to three and it even touch two

906
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: and a half, professional betters started coming in on Miami

907
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: and I apologize for people listening to my voice. It

908
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: sounds worse than it is. Don't worry. I'm gonna be fine.

909
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: The point is Miami is the team professional betters are

910
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: backing for every reason you just said. They believe Tua

911
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: will make this team better. More importantly, they aren't believing

912
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: in Kyler Murray as a consistent winning quarterback going cross

913
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: country to play the Dolphins in a desperate, desperate situation. Wise,

914
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: guys are on Miami. Yeah, desperate spot, you gotta.

915
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: Win, and I really do believe Miami Mike McDaniels has

916
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: to rebrand this team fast because they've been the worst

917
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: team in the league for about a month and they

918
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: have and also they're watching the Patriots fall apart and

919
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: the Jets fall apart. So it's like, guys, let's see

920
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: second place, first assignment Sunday, let me get Colin.

921
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 4: Last week, I was saying in an airport and I was

922
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: going over my notes for the favorites to the show,

923
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: and I couldn't remember who was playing quarterback for the

924
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. And that's how off the radar there. I

925
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: had to look up literally Miami Dolphins starting quarterback and

926
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 4: you know what came up, Tua. Google didn't even know

927
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: who the starting quarterback for Miami was. That's how sort

928
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 4: of forgotten they've been. So you're one hundred percent right.

929
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 4: They need to reframe who they are right now.

930
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Colts in a desperate spot plus five rival game

931
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: at the Texans the Green Bay game, there was a

932
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: little bit of a red flag on Houston. So CJ.

933
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: Strouds in year two clearly needs Joe Mixon and Nico

934
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: Collins to be completed, he's getting worse protection. If you

935
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: watch the past attempts and you watch the coaching, they're

936
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: getting a little conservative with him. It tells you that

937
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: if they're not completely healthy, the staff doesn't necessarily trust him.

938
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 4: Yet.

939
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: Conversely, Jordan Love throws ugly picks, early, bat lefloor, doubles down,

940
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: throw it more. They know they've got farv on their hands.

941
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is an aggressive thrower, and Lafleur totally backs in.

942
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: But the way they're coaching, see Jay Stroud is telling

943
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: me they're a little concerned with the elements around him

944
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes as a second year player, he needs though,

945
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: he needs those the nicos, the Joe mixons to fortify

946
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: his game. So I'm gonna take the Colts plus five.

947
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: It was six on DraftKings all or odds provided by DraftKings.

948
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: Sharper Square.

949
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally sharp. In fact, it went from six

950
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 4: and a half to six to five and a half

951
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: to five. It's now at four and a half in

952
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: some places. Wise, guys have been pounding the Colts. I'm

953
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: gonna take your theory about better quarterback and expand it

954
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: because that obviously isn't the case in this scenario. But

955
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: I do think one of the reasons why the public

956
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: has been winning so much in the past two weeks.

957
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: The public meaning if there are more than fifty one

958
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: percent of the bets on one side, that is a

959
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: public side. For the first five weeks of the year,

960
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: the public was having its worst season in the twenty

961
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: years we've been tracking this at Action Network. The past

962
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: two weeks, the public is twenty two zero seven and

963
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: one complete and total reversal. Obviously, Houston is going to

964
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: be the public side here, but what normally happens is

965
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: bad quarterbacks and bad teams with big numbers find a

966
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 4: way to cover, and they haven't been. This is a

967
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: situation where I'm extrapolating. I think it's more about good

968
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: coaching and dominant unit. So you have in the Colts

969
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: the number one run blocking unit in the NFL. You

970
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: may get Jonathan Taylor back, you practiced yesterday for the

971
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: first time off of that high ankle spring. You've got it,

972
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: a great play caller in Shane Steichen who last year

973
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 4: almost got the coat of the Playoff with Gardner Minshew.

974
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: And by the way, has this team at four and

975
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: three and one game out of the first place in

976
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: the AFC South behind the Texans, who they only lost

977
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 4: to by two points eReader this year. So that is

978
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: why the Wise guys are coming in. One trend for

979
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 4: you division favorites the past eight years forty six percent

980
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 4: against the spread, So it's also a good spot.

981
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: One more underdog Seattle plush three against the Bills. So, uh, Seattle.

982
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot of Seattle when they're healthy

983
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: upfront defensively, but boy did Kirk Cousins see that last week.

984
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: This is a really good defensive coach with some really

985
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: tasty defensive personnel. They're also getting their top cornerback. When

986
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: I look at Gino Smith, I look at two ways

987
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: with time and a run game. He's highly effective when

988
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: rushed sometimes on the road. He's not Buffalo is not

989
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: a team. Although I like them, I don't trust them.

990
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: They're a much better version of Arizona and Seattle at

991
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: home healthy a field goal. I this is hard for

992
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: me to turn down at three and a half. It's

993
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: one of the best bets of the week. At three,

994
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: I'd roll with it. The Seahawks sharper square.

995
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: So it's square. The Wise guys are on Buffalo, but

996
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: I will tell you. I'm with you. I don't understand

997
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: why they're on Buffalo. You know, we've talked about this before.

998
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: We do a segment and our show called Sharp Calls

999
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, we talk about other games. By Thursday, when

1000
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 4: we do the next episode of the week. We've got

1001
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 4: feedback from a lot of professional betters with their opinions

1002
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: on what we talked about on Tuesday, and we will

1003
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: review those on the show. Seattle Buffalo was one of

1004
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: the games that we loved on Tuesday, and on Thursday

1005
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 4: we were getting a lot of calls from professional betters,

1006
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 4: so that they weren't buying Seattle's defense. They weren't buying

1007
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: Gino Smith, and they liked Josh Allen and the year

1008
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 4: that he's having no interceptions hasn't thrown an interception in

1009
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 4: nine games, which is coming close to record breaking status, right.

1010
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 4: But I am with you. Like the Bills beat up

1011
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: on bad teams, yes, and they may use or struggle

1012
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: against good teams. So if you're betting Seattle, then you

1013
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: are basically taking a stand that you think Seattle is

1014
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: a good team. And there is some evidence of that

1015
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: they have gotten healthier, but there's evidence that they're a

1016
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: bad team too, right, So I think that's what the

1017
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 4: wise guys are playing here at They just don't believe

1018
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: Seattle is a very good team yet.

1019
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go to some favorites. Bears

1020
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: minus two and a half at the Commanders. Even if

1021
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels plays, he's not at one hundred percent, And

1022
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: you could you could clearly see with the Giants next week,

1023
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: if Jaden Daniels plays, gets dinged pass rush pretty good

1024
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: for Chicago, you could see them saying we're going to Mariota.

1025
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: We're going to go into divisional play. We got no interest.

1026
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: I think the Bears defense, because we're so fixated on

1027
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: Caleb and he's by the way, he is building real

1028
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: rapport here with his offensive set. I think the Bears

1029
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: defense is pretty well coached. Again, it's a numbers game.

1030
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I think if Jaden Daniels plays, it will be mass protection.

1031
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: It will be a game in which they coach him

1032
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: more safely, they call a game differently. He's the difference

1033
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: in the franchise, and I think it's one of these

1034
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: games you look at and you think, listen, if we

1035
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: had to not play him, I mean, he hasn't practiced

1036
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: this week. Even if he practices Friday, you kind of

1037
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: wonder what you get. I like Chicago minus two and

1038
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: a half here a pretty strong play Sharper square.

1039
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the sharp side. And look, the betters are

1040
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: are almost literally banking on the idea that Jaden Daniels

1041
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 4: isn't going to play in this game because he hasn't practiced,

1042
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: and there is a there is a massive difference between

1043
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels and Marcus Marrioll. Yes, the Commanders have only

1044
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: punted twelve times this season. That's tied with the Chiefs

1045
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 4: for the fewest since nineteen fifty. They're perfect on fourth downs,

1046
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 4: They're fifty percent on third down conversions. That is because

1047
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: of Jaden Daniels. That is because of the threat that

1048
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: he poses. That is because of what he can do

1049
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 4: as both a very accurate passer and a good runner.

1050
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 4: Without that, this is a different team. It stresses the defense,

1051
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 4: which isn't very good even from a statistical point of view,

1052
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: but they don't look as bad When Jayden Daniels is

1053
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: converting fourth downs and converting third towns. There's fewer up

1054
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 4: ortunities for the opposing offense to get on the field

1055
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: and score points. Kayley Williams has been a brilliant quarterback

1056
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: the past four weeks, and by the way, in the

1057
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: second half, he's covering the spread at a rate that

1058
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: is only compared only matched by Patrick Mahomes right now.

1059
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: So this coming off of by this team in this spot,

1060
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: it is a really good time to bet the Bears

1061
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: at minus two and a half. The wise guys are

1062
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 4: with you.

1063
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: The Eagles are the only team in the league that

1064
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: hasn't scored in the first quarter, and that matters when

1065
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: they go on the road to face Joe Burrow. Joe

1066
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: Burrow when he doesn't have to throw but chooses to throw,

1067
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: is as good as any quarterback in this league. All

1068
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when they're in a hole, face a different defensive.

1069
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: Test.

1070
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: Philadelphia, if they score, doesn't take big leagues. They're probably

1071
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: the most underachieved offense in the league based on personnel

1072
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: and productivity. So here's a team in Cincinnati which has

1073
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: shown an ability to start quickly. I think Philadelphia has

1074
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: got much better players, but at minus two and a half,

1075
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: basically season on the line, with Baltimore winning Pittsburgh winning,

1076
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: this is the season for Cincinnati at home. I only

1077
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: give up two and a half against what I think

1078
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: is one of the more poorly coached teams in the league,

1079
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: yet one of the best rosters. I'll take the Bengals

1080
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Sharper square, totally sharp.

1081
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: The public is on the Eagles, and this line has

1082
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: moved up. That's called the reverse line move. When the

1083
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: line moves in the opposite direction of where the majority

1084
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: of the bets are. That tells you the professional betters

1085
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: are coming in on the side of the team that

1086
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: the line moved in the direction of. That is the

1087
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 4: Bengals open to two. It's now at two and a half.

1088
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: This is a bet on Joe Burrow. Yep, that's all like.

1089
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 4: He's twenty two two, six and one against the spread

1090
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 4: when facing a team that just covered. Overall in his career,

1091
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: he's sixty three percent. He's seventy percent against teams that

1092
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: are over five hundred. The challenge here is everyone should

1093
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: be and has been, concerned about the Bengals defense. But

1094
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: two things. The Bengals defense has been really good defending

1095
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 4: against the long pass and explosive plays. That's the best

1096
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 4: way for the Eagles to win. We've seen it time

1097
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: and again. When they get the explosive plays, that's when

1098
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: they can break it out. The rest of the time,

1099
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: their offense isn't very good. We even sought against the

1100
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 4: Giants last week. So the pros are with you. They

1101
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: are backing Joe Burrow.

1102
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: So you know. I love the number five. When a

1103
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: team is favored by four and a half to five,

1104
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a graveyard for books that they

1105
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: don't want to go to the that number. But they're

1106
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of trapped. So San Francisco's at home. Dallas has

1107
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: not matched up well against better teams. Now Deebo had

1108
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: pneumonia as a pro athlete, I think he's available Sunday.

1109
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I think Jennings is available. Jordan Mason's the second leading

1110
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: rusher in the league. He's a more than capable backup.

1111
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: Teams that are well coached with talent that deliver a

1112
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: stinker in the biggest TV game of the week always play.

1113
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: It's an easy team to coach hard. They will play

1114
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: a much better football game. They're limited. No Brandon Ayuk,

1115
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: no Christian They're limited. But I think they feel they

1116
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: not only lost to the Chiefs, they were kind of embarrassed.

1117
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: It was really a bad performance. I'm going to swallow

1118
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: the four and a half and take the Niners at home.

1119
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: Sharper Square, Well, you said something there that is a

1120
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 4: little bit too flip and dismissive. No Brandon Ayuk, no

1121
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey. They might not have Deebo sam Will because

1122
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 4: the guy has pneumonia, like he was in the freaking hospital.

1123
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 4: If you look at Brock Perdy's production, a third of

1124
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: his production during the time he's been starting has been

1125
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 4: going to Christian McCaffrey and Brandon Aiyuk. If you include

1126
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel, fifty percent going to those three guys. You

1127
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: take away those three guys, and you know what you

1128
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: get Brock Purdy and what he did against the Kansas

1129
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: City Chiefs. Like Ricky Pearsall is not Brandon I jo.

1130
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if Rickey Pearsall can play right.

1131
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 4: Ronnie Bell is not Deebo Samuel. It doesn't matter how

1132
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: hard Kyle Shanahan coaches these guys this week. If they

1133
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 4: can't play, they can't play. So that's the real issue.

1134
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: It's why the wise guys took the Cowboys at six

1135
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: and a half, took them at five and a half

1136
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: took them at five down to four and a half.

1137
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: This thing's going to four. I would not be surprised

1138
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: if it's at three and a half by because the

1139
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: wise guy money is coming in on the Cowboys, and

1140
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 4: that's Ethan. With all the chaos of Jerry Jones calling

1141
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: out Mike McCarthy, who he could have fired after the

1142
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 4: Packers blew out the Cowboys, and now he's upset with

1143
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 4: McCarthy's play calling. The Cowboys are still inside. By the way,

1144
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: McCarthy thirteen three and one off of the buy against

1145
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: the spread.

1146
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so a game.

1147
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: I want your opinion on this. It seems easy. So

1148
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: when Malik Neighbors was out or Cavon Thibadeaux for the Giants,

1149
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: it sounds alarming. But the player that really decides the

1150
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: fate of this team is Andrew Thomas. When bad quarterbacks

1151
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: don't have a left tackle, they get hideous fast. The

1152
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: Giants are now last year's Giants, right. They competed without

1153
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: Malik with Dexter Lauren, they compete without Thibadeau. I don't

1154
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: think they're a competitive football team. So I get the

1155
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Steelers for the record. The second half against the Jets

1156
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing New York scott players. It was

1157
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: a little old Russell Wilson. He's now got a deep threat,

1158
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: a run game, Arthur Smith, he had protection moving well.

1159
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: We know the defense and motivations there. I know it

1160
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: doesn't feel sharp, but Pittsburgh minus six hosting a Giants team.

1161
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: Shane and Dable have been given assurance by the owner.

1162
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. It's not a frenetic behind the

1163
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: scenes thing. Neither wants Daniel Jones. I cannot bet Daniel

1164
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: Jones stand alone on the road without his left tackle.

1165
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: It feels like the minus six is sharp. Steelers Sharper square.

1166
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 4: It's eh, Like, no one's really interested in this game.

1167
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: If it wasn't a primetime game, it'd be the Core

1168
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 4: TV game because the Giants are that bad. And you're

1169
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 4: right about Andrew Thomas, like we've talked about this. When

1170
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm handicapping and doing analysis, the first thing I'm looking

1171
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 4: at is the offensive line. One of the reasons I

1172
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: like the Bengals against the Eagles is because Jordan Malata

1173
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 4: is out and he's being replaced with a guy named

1174
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: Fred Johnson. He gives up his pressure rate as a

1175
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: left tackle is twenty two percent against opposing defensive ends.

1176
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 4: The average is six percent. Offensive lines dictate your ability

1177
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 4: to run the ball, protect the quarterback. Score. It's why

1178
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 4: I love the Lions so much. It's why we love

1179
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 4: them so much. Last weekends the Vikings, it's why we

1180
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: hate them. We hate the Giants against the Eagles. I

1181
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 4: hate the Giants against the Steelers too. It's not a

1182
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: great spot like a team that's been blown out against

1183
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: a team that did the blowing out. That's a bad

1184
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: formula if you want to be a better it's very

1185
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 4: public to take the Steelers right now. I'm not saying

1186
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: it's the wrong side, but it's not the sharp side.

1187
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, there's always a game. I'm interested in your opinion.

1188
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: Jets minus seven at New England. They humiliated New England

1189
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: the first time. Drake may look pretty good last week.

1190
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: The Jets are a circus. I mean it's they look

1191
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: like they're significantly worse on defense without their best coach,

1192
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: Robert Sola. He was their best coach. They're not as

1193
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: good in the two games defensively without him. Offensively, the

1194
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: first game they used motion. Aaron Rodgers doesn't like it.

1195
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: By the second game with the new coordinator, their motion

1196
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: was cut in half. That is so Aaron. He doesn't

1197
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: like motion. He wants to go to the line, keep

1198
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: it clean, all make the call. It's begging me to

1199
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: take New England. Tell me where I should go.

1200
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 4: Well, if you want to bet this game, which you

1201
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 4: shouldn't want to, and you definitely should not want to

1202
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 4: make it one of your blazing five because you're on

1203
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: a streak right now, you take New England. Right, You've

1204
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: got Drake May, he's proving he can throw the ball.

1205
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: You've got a depleted Jets secondary, which we saw last week.

1206
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 4: Like every single play I felt like another Jets player

1207
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: was going out. Even Sauce Gardner got banged up a

1208
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 4: little bit in last week's game. But you don't want

1209
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: to play this game. There are four big ish underdogs

1210
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 4: this week, the Jets, the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders.

1211
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 4: There are two games wise, guys want to play the underdogs,

1212
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 4: one game they completely want to ignore, and one game

1213
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 4: in which they want to play the favorites, The Patriots

1214
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 4: Jets is the game they want to ignore.

1215
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: All right, you always give me a game that I

1216
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: missed completely? What say you?

1217
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 4: Well, look, we talked about some good ones since the

1218
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 4: Indie I love those games. We talked about Chicago. We

1219
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 4: haven't talked about Cleveland and Las Vegas and their matchups

1220
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 4: against the Ravens and the Chiefs.

1221
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: I can't stomach both. Just give me one, pick one.

1222
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 4: It's so hard, Like the wise guys love them both.

1223
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 4: At this point, you're better off just betting the number,

1224
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 4: and like it's a little bit more of a number,

1225
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: higher number with the Raiders and the Chiefs than it

1226
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 4: is with the Browns and the Ravens. I lean If

1227
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 4: I have to choose only one of them, I lean Browns.

1228
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: I think they're closer to getting better. And again subscribing

1229
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: to the theory that if I'm going to bet on

1230
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 4: a really bad team that is a big underdog, I

1231
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: want that team to at least have one dominant unit.

1232
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 4: And the Browns do have a dominant defensive end in

1233
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, who wasn't even on the injury report this week.

1234
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: They have a dominant cornerback and Denzel Ward, who's been

1235
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: playing great all season long. The Ravens do give up

1236
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 4: a lot of points this most points in the second

1237
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 4: half this season. Along with the Titans, So there is

1238
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: an opportunity for Jamis if he decides to go crazy

1239
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 4: in the second half, for them to pull off a

1240
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 4: backdoor cover. I worry about the Raiders. Mahomes has a

1241
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 4: bad record as a favorite of more than three, but

1242
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 4: that record has been getting better the past two seasons.

1243
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: He's nine six and one against the spread as a

1244
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 4: favorite of more than three the past two seasons. So

1245
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 4: you got to look at it not just holistically, but

1246
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: in some recency. And this team, they're turning the ball over,

1247
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: they can't get off, they can't stay on the field

1248
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 4: on third down. I just worry they're not going to

1249
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 4: have that many opportunities to score against the Chiefs defense

1250
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 4: that is pretty good. So the one thing they have

1251
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 4: going for them is brock Bauers has the most receptions

1252
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 4: for a rookie tight end since two thousand and the

1253
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 4: one thing the Chiefs haven't been able to do this year.

1254
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: They couldn't guard Kittle, they couldn't guard Isaiah Likely, they

1255
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 4: couldn't guard Mike. For the Bengals, all of them had

1256
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: either close to one hundred or just under one hundred

1257
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 4: yards receiving, but none of them won the game. So

1258
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 4: I lean Browns. If I have to choose one of them,

1259
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 4: I don't want to, but that's what I would do.

1260
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: By the way, Packers minus three and a half at

1261
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: the Jaguars screams Jags, doesn't it?

1262
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 4: Yes on it Screamshags so much it's moved from four

1263
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 4: and a half to four to three and a half.

1264
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 4: I think at three and a half you're sort of

1265
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: at the bleeding edge of what the wise guys would do.

1266
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 4: They're really not that interested in it, but they would

1267
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 4: still do it because they're getting the hook. But you

1268
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 4: missed the best of the number on that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chad Miller. You want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Lions, Well, they played a brilliant football game, and

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Speaker 1: so I don't think teams play perfect back to back.

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Speaker 1: So let's discuss the number. So my rule, the biggest

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Speaker 1: number on the board I throw out. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be a sucker. Detroit minus eleven and a half

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Speaker 1: hosting Tennessee, so you're off a huge, intense divisional game.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee is a seller now near the trade deadline, they're

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Speaker 1: moving off people. That worries me in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: You know, Detroit's a better team what say you on

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Speaker 1: the line eleven and a half. That's a college line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's massive, and I'd almost always ignore it. But

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Speaker 4: I have bet the Lions, full disclosure, I bet him

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Speaker 4: at ten and a half. I don't hate at eleven.

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Speaker 4: This game is power rated by professional betters closer to

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Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen. But the bookmakers know they can't post

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Speaker 4: a thirteen, they can't post a fourteen. They'll immediately get

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Speaker 4: money on Tennessee at that big of a number, and

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Speaker 4: it's totally realistic for the game to land around, you know,

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Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen. But again it goes back to the

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Speaker 4: offensive line. This is a dominant team. Is the best

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Speaker 4: team in the NFC, bar Nutt. They are on a

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Speaker 4: collision course with the Chiefs to play in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Jared Goff is the best quarterback against the spread in

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Speaker 4: the NFL the past several seasons. The Lions the past

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Speaker 4: four seasons seventy against the spread. That is an unmatched

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Speaker 4: trend for them other than the New England Patriots of

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Speaker 4: their middle aughts dynasty, Middle teams dynasty. So I don't

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Speaker 4: hate the Lions here. If I'm betting any of the

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Speaker 4: big favorites it's going to be on the Lions fair.

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Speaker 1: Enough, Chad Millman, Sharper Square, get better, Get well, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Thank you sir.

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