WEBVTT - Nude Space Walk

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff the Ball your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would like for you to just just take a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to imagine Benjamin Franklin in space. Now, Benjamin Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>had his uh, with his old timy clothes on. Oh yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole nine yards. We're not going to skimp on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Franklin in space. We want a hundreds Benjamin Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>in space. That means uh, you know, the experiments, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the the proclivity for for French ladies of ill repute,

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<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Oh sorry, that was

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Jefferson. Yeah, and kind of like mac and cheese. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing this. I'm seeing him holding onto a kite yep,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe maybe not, And I'm seeing him with his

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<v Speaker 1>space suit on over his old timey clothes, but then

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<v Speaker 1>walking out onto the the exterior area of the ship

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<v Speaker 1>for his his air bath. I knew, I knew you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to take us there, Robert lamp. When you

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<v Speaker 1>say air bath, you mean a jaunt in the nude yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because because ben Ben Franklin, of course, he he was

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of of sleeping half the night through

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<v Speaker 1>than getting up and uh spending a little time just

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<v Speaker 1>setting around in the buff in the open air, reading

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and then getting tired of getting going

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<v Speaker 1>back to bed. And there there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of studies that show that this

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<v Speaker 1>is probably actually a very reasonable way to sleep. The

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<v Speaker 1>nude reading is you know, left to the individuals. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say that the getting up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and sort of maximizing sleep patterns,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily taking an air bath, as he called it, nude. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, there's no air outside of his spaceship. Um

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<v Speaker 1>So if Benjamin Franklin did venture out of the airlock

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<v Speaker 1>in the buff, what would happen? You know? Would would

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<v Speaker 1>eyeballs would bulge, he would explode into a million meat pieces, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and froze, he would freeze and shatter. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've seen so many different versions of what this

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<v Speaker 1>might consist of in science fiction and if you look

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<v Speaker 1>look at the various things that have been written about

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<v Speaker 1>it too, from even from a scientific perspective. Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>can get a little confusing at times because our ideas

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<v Speaker 1>are sort of shifted over time and uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>some some things that we thought would happen haven't really happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And thankfully it's not something we have a tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of data on, because we we aren't just throwing naked

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts out the airlock in space. We're not doing a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of horrific decompression experiments just to see what

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<v Speaker 1>would happen in these cases. Instead, we're taking all due

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<v Speaker 1>precautions with our our astronauts and ensuring that these highly

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<v Speaker 1>valuable individuals can carry on their daily task in safety. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we we thought we would take this uh

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi trope that's death by vacuum and really examine

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<v Speaker 1>it and see what would happen and the various ways

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<v Speaker 1>that that we do try to protect our astronauts. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So a good starting place for this system to mention

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<v Speaker 1>just a few of them, the more notable examples that

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<v Speaker 1>will refer back to as we progress. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>there is two thousand and one of Space Odyssey, which

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<v Speaker 1>we often mentioned and everyone pretty much often mentions is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best sci fi films of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>and really there's nothing like it. I recently watched it

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<v Speaker 1>again and it's just it's stunning and uh and long

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<v Speaker 1>and a little confusing, but I mean, all these things disorienting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just makes you think it's it's psychedelic, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's as at times it's it's it's hard science fiction

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that it feels so real, that feels

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<v Speaker 1>more real than it feels like a more real version

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<v Speaker 1>of the future, a more genuine version of the future

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<v Speaker 1>than we actually have grown into. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's other stuff in it that is just completely out there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just you know, the mind meeting the unknown. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is one scene in which, after not Dave Bowman, Uh, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Dave? That Dave, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>the Dave voice, do it, Dave, what are you doing? Dave?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you taking off your clothes and going for spacewalk?

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<v Speaker 1>Well he doesn't do it in the nude, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>space walks for about fifteen seconds with no helmet, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't appear to cause him any pain. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>re enters the Discovery through an open hatch and just

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<v Speaker 1>carries on. And the modern viewers that he just comes

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<v Speaker 1>up like a complete badass because he's just he's unfazed

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<v Speaker 1>by it. He's just like, all right, it just drifted

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<v Speaker 1>through the void, no helmet on. Now I'm good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go shut down this computer. So there's that version.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's there's Mission to Mars, in which Tim Robbins

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<v Speaker 1>takes his helmet off and his face like instantly freezes

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<v Speaker 1>and distorts and he's dead just in a second. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I think a typical response to watching that

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<v Speaker 1>movie and its entirety as well. Um, there's Outland, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really a very enjoyable film. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen this. When this one is a shot, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's great because you have Sean Connery as the good

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<v Speaker 1>guy and I think believe Peter Boyle plays the villain.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like a mining colony in space. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>a space Western. I mean, it is a straight up

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<v Speaker 1>space Western, and it's a hell of a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I have secretly hope that Nicholas winding Refin will we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a remakeup it. It will probably never happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be great for it. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>are a whole bunch of scenes where uh, guys in

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<v Speaker 1>space suits are shot. It ruptures their suit and then

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<v Speaker 1>their heads swell up like a balloon and then pop

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, and to to the modern viewer,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a lot of fun, but as we'll discuss,

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<v Speaker 1>it's complete hooey as far as what would actually happen. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the movie Event Horizon, which, uh, it's a supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>space film that teenage Robert Lamb loved, could not get

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<v Speaker 1>enough of. Modern Robert Lamb that does not really want

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<v Speaker 1>to see it again. But in this film, a character

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<v Speaker 1>passes through the space without a suit briefly and he survives,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a very traumatic experience and I believe he

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<v Speaker 1>suffered some sort of blindness from it. Um and they

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<v Speaker 1>are also I believe they prep him by getting him

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<v Speaker 1>to it to push all the air out of his

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<v Speaker 1>lungs before he goes. Now. In Sunshine, communications Officer Harvey

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<v Speaker 1>tries to jump from one spaceship to another, and he

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<v Speaker 1>tries to do it without a suit and doesn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>make it, and within a minute or so his his

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<v Speaker 1>arm is really so brittle that it breaks off like

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<v Speaker 1>an icicle. Yeah, which makes for a good cinem I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Danny Boyle is a great filmmaker. So Sunshine

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<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful film to watch, but not not all

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<v Speaker 1>the science. It's gonna really line up. But some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you're hearing already swelling, freezing, Uh what

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<v Speaker 1>else is there any other swelling, freezing, exploding? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of these another ones we looked

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<v Speaker 1>at really went into burning, but that is a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be easy to say, oh, you would just catch fire,

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<v Speaker 1>or one you wouldn't catch fire, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would just turn into beef jerky. I guess could

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<v Speaker 1>be another possible example, and I'm sure somebody has used

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<v Speaker 1>that somewhere in science fiction, right, although we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>that's not an angle that comes up much, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is a real possibility, So I could see it being

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<v Speaker 1>a possible distortion of what could happen. Is right, And

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<v Speaker 1>these distortions really do have some basis to them. It

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<v Speaker 1>does not mean that if you were to take off

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<v Speaker 1>your space suit that you would explode, but it does

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<v Speaker 1>mean that there's a measure of swelling going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the body. And we'll get more into that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what's so intriguing about this idea, that's a death,

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<v Speaker 1>death by vacuum. Yes, so at this point we should

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<v Speaker 1>we should take a step back and let's say, let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at space itself. Let's look at the void and

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<v Speaker 1>discuss exactly what this environment is. And then we'll say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll answer the question what would this do to an

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<v Speaker 1>individual without a space suit, an individual without a helmet,

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<v Speaker 1>or indeed a naked Benjamin Franklin just floating about without restraint,

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<v Speaker 1>with with less restraint than usual. Well, um, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I wanted to mention all the it has

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<v Speaker 1>really no impact on whether or not someone would explode

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<v Speaker 1>in space without a space suit. Is sound? Okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no sound in space, right. Sound travels by making

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<v Speaker 1>molecules vibrate, So in order for sound travel, there has

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<v Speaker 1>to be something with molecules fort to travel through. On Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>sound travels to your ears by vibrating air molecules. In

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<v Speaker 1>deep space, the large empty areas between stars and plants,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no molecules to vibrate. There is no sound,

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<v Speaker 1>making it that much more creepy for our sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>body explosion to happen. Yeah, in space, no one can

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<v Speaker 1>hear you scream. Right, that's the that's the Aliens tagline, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, that's his tagline. So yeah, So in space

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<v Speaker 1>we have the void, we have a vacuum. So first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, obviously there's no oxygen. That's just the no brainer.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course there's furthermore, there's no atmosphere. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>atmospheric pressure hugging you in. We've discussed in the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>we just recorded about emotions in space that of course

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<v Speaker 1>here on Earth there is air pressure. There's all this

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<v Speaker 1>heavy air doesn't seem like it has any eight or

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to it, but it's constantly pressing in on us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hugging us. It's like a corset that we have

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<v Speaker 1>worn so long we no longer realize we're wearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But take that corset off and stuff is just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>float free. That's right, because there is an absence of

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<v Speaker 1>matter in space. Also, the temperature it's cold, Yeah, it's uh, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>space itself doesn't really have a temperature because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the void. So I mean, here's the thing. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to heat transfer, they're basically three ways that it

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<v Speaker 1>takes place, there's radiation, there's convection, and there's conduction. Radiation

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<v Speaker 1>is the only method of heat transfer for objects in

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum. So you end up in the situation where,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the void around you is not going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pressing up against you with some temperature, you're

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to some really severe uh examples of temperature variation

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<v Speaker 1>uh in terms of really cold stuff and then also

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<v Speaker 1>really hot uh. The heat coming from the radiation. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>uh NASA's bulky white space shoot suits that they wear

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<v Speaker 1>in the spacewalks. So let's say you're out there, you're working.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you've got your back turned to cold, dead space,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your your front is turned towards the sun. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they have found that there can be upwards of a

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and seventy five degree farenheight difference from one

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<v Speaker 1>side to the other, just based on where you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>facing just that kind of an extreme. So the white

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<v Speaker 1>is reflective and you're not absorbing that heat. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>another One of the other things that springs to mind too,

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<v Speaker 1>is a lunar dust. Back when we were sending people

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon, you had to be concerned with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that are you have this this white uh space,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's reflecting all of this solar radiation. So it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's keeping you from absorbing all of this heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you're reflecting it, but get coated in some dark

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<v Speaker 1>moon dust and suddenly you'll start absorbing it and it

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<v Speaker 1>could bake you alive. Not a good way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a good way to go. Uh. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>really a plot line you see much and stuff by movies. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could be used as a weapon. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's it's it's an underutilized idea there. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like all you need is a black paint gun.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes without saying that in a vacuum, most liquids

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<v Speaker 1>have a such a low boiling point that they vaporize

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<v Speaker 1>almost instantly. But that is a reminder that we just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have moisture floating around in space. In fact, in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, when astronauts have urinated, the results were expelled

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<v Speaker 1>into space where it boiled violently, and then the vapor

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<v Speaker 1>then passed immediately into a solid state. It's a process

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<v Speaker 1>known as d sublimation, and you end up with a

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<v Speaker 1>cloud of really fine crystals of frozen urine, which is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a beautiful thing. Yeah, yeah, I've I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it described as being fairly beautiful. In fact, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that some astronauts had mistaken those crystals for distant stars.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some accounts of that name them after themselves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, But you've touched on something with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the liquids boiling, because because you often hear

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<v Speaker 1>the idea too that oh, if you're exposed to the void,

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<v Speaker 1>your blood would boil and you would just it would

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<v Speaker 1>just be this awful mess like and I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>that idea of boiling blood is just hellish and awful,

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<v Speaker 1>and it you can see where people would really get

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the notion. So you have these visions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if the blood boiling in the skin and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blood vapor coming out of people or making you inflate

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<v Speaker 1>and explode, and of course that's that's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen um because of the containing effect of the skin

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<v Speaker 1>in the circulatory system. So you swell a bit naked,

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Franklin would kind of bloat a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>the but the body, yeah, more, but the body itself

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<v Speaker 1>is its own kind of precious suit for this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, And and it keeps dissolved tissues in a

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<v Speaker 1>liquid stage, so only body flu is directly exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the vacuum would actually boil away. And uh, marriage says

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<v Speaker 1>has happened to a NASA test subject a leaky space

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<v Speaker 1>suit in an altitude chamber. The last thing he recalled

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<v Speaker 1>before of losing consciousness with the sensation of his saliva

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<v Speaker 1>bubbling on its tongue, which is kind of awful and

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<v Speaker 1>cool at the same time. Um, let's talk about space

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<v Speaker 1>suits real quick, just because I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how they do actually protect astronauts of space. They have

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<v Speaker 1>pressurized atmosphere, so the space suit provides air pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the fluids in your body in a liquid state.

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<v Speaker 1>Oxygen space suits must apply pure oxygen because of a

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<v Speaker 1>low pressure, and then of course you've got regulated temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's take a quick break, and when we get

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<v Speaker 1>back we can talk about what happens when you strip

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<v Speaker 1>off a space suit. All right, we're back. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about some of the science fiction ideas about

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you take your space suit off in

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<v Speaker 1>the void. We've mentioned some of the attributes of the

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<v Speaker 1>void there's no air, there's no pressure, that the solar

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<v Speaker 1>adiation can just quickly heat things up a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>to two pretty uh hellish temperatures. And then likewise that

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<v Speaker 1>there's the cold, chilling void to concern yourself with as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been taught tackling the question what what would

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<v Speaker 1>actually happen? What actually does happen when the body's exposed

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<v Speaker 1>to this kind of environment. Well, you rip off your

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<v Speaker 1>space suit and you get about fifteen seconds some saying

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<v Speaker 1>between nine and leven depending uh, and that is about

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<v Speaker 1>roughly how much time it takes for deoxygenated blood to

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<v Speaker 1>circulate from your lungs to your brain. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>say you get fifteen seconds, fifteen seconds of consciousness left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is going to be the big kicker, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for for what's happening out there. This is ultimately going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the factor for a niked Benjamin Franklin on

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<v Speaker 1>the exterior, right. I mean it's kind of awful because

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<v Speaker 1>it could be fifteen seconds where you witness your demise,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be fifteen seconds. Uh And if someone

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<v Speaker 1>can act quickly, well, then you could be resuscitated. It

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<v Speaker 1>is possible. Um, But The deal is is that the

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<v Speaker 1>sucking the air from your lungs is part of why shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>But the deal is is that the sucking the air

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<v Speaker 1>from your lungs is is really part and parcel of

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<v Speaker 1>why your demise would come on. See, when you're placed

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<v Speaker 1>in a vacuum, the gas exchange process works and reverse

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<v Speaker 1>your lyngs actually pull oxygen out of the body and

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<v Speaker 1>dump it back into the lungs where it's exhaled, which

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<v Speaker 1>only serves to hasten the onset of hypoxia. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the the air rushes out explosively even and can really

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<v Speaker 1>damage the lungs in the throat. Um. And it's all

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<v Speaker 1>because of this tremendous pressure differential inside versus the outside. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you had mentioned, Um, the the spit any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of liquid on your tongue and sweat on your

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<v Speaker 1>body would boil away. Um. This has been described as

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<v Speaker 1>a fizzy feeling like drinking soda and water. Vapor will

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<v Speaker 1>form rapidly in the soft tissues and somewhat less rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>in the venous blood, causing swelling. So there's this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, our sci fi idea of exp loading. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and also it comes back to that, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>is the event horizon um scene where they said, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you get all the air out of your lungs

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<v Speaker 1>because you're about to be exposed to the void. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently holding your breath makes it worse. Yes, do not

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<v Speaker 1>hold your breath when exposed to a vacuum. Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>number of other factors that they can come into play.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this can essentially give you the bends. They

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<v Speaker 1>can force the air bubbles into your blood vessels. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There a whole lot of nasty things that can happen

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<v Speaker 1>to the human body without even getting into the realm

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<v Speaker 1>of exploding heads. You know, just the moisture in your nose, eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and mouth that evaporates, causing localized frost bite. As you

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned before, exposed skin begins to burn, um, so

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<v Speaker 1>you get an extreme uh sunburn, your dermal tissues begin

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<v Speaker 1>to swell. And when it comes to the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>freezing or turning into beef jerokee. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's worth noting that that you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about getting a pretty bad sunburn if you were

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<v Speaker 1>out there without a suit. But in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>freezing solid and chattering like in sunshine or going all

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, frozen face like Tim Robbins uh in

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<v Speaker 1>Mission to Mars. Uh. Here's a quick quote from a

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<v Speaker 1>fill over at bad Astronomer, and he says, the human

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<v Speaker 1>body holds a lot of heat, and it would take

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to freeze. Have you ever found yourself

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<v Speaker 1>literally freezing solid when you go outside on a winter's day? No,

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<v Speaker 1>of course not yet. Losing heat by transferring it to

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<v Speaker 1>cold air is far faster than doing so by simply

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<v Speaker 1>radiating it away as you would in space. If it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a long time in frigid air, it would take

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<v Speaker 1>even longer in frigid space. So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the idea of shattering astronauts, uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>would take you would have to find an astronaut e

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<v Speaker 1>that been floating free for quite a bit before they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to actually just you know, break into pieces. Right right,

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<v Speaker 1>your body is gonna cool slowly, relatively coolly, uh or slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say. And then the hypoxia that you experience

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<v Speaker 1>really does have its own set of issues, including a

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<v Speaker 1>loss of vision of course, wits at that point, followed

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<v Speaker 1>by convulsions, um, lots of consciousness and uh, cyanosis when

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<v Speaker 1>your skin turns blue. So at this point you're not

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<v Speaker 1>dead really, Um, you're just kind of you're on your

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<v Speaker 1>way there. Your brain is still functional, in your heart

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<v Speaker 1>is still going, and you can still be revived according

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<v Speaker 1>to NASA, with surprisingly minimal permanent injury if if you

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<v Speaker 1>are immediately returned to an atmosphere and this savior window

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<v Speaker 1>is only ninety seconds long. Now, there was an accidental

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<v Speaker 1>experiment with US, and NASA actually has us on the

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<v Speaker 1>website in the section that fields all the various questions

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<v Speaker 1>they get. They say, at NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center, which

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<v Speaker 1>is now renamed Jonathan Space Center, we had a test

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<v Speaker 1>subject accidentally exposed to a near vacuum in an incident

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<v Speaker 1>involving a leaking space suit in a vacuum chamber back

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<v Speaker 1>in sixty five. He remained conscious for about fourteen seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they began to re pressurize the chamber within

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen seconds and then he regaining consciousness. So he was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, all those things did not have in

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<v Speaker 1>his blood to not boil his eyeballs, did not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>explode out of his head. Yeah, based on everything that

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<v Speaker 1>then we've been reading when you compare real life to fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>when you compare science to science fiction, the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one example is pretty spot on, except he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be so spotless on the other side. It would he

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<v Speaker 1>would look and feel like he'd kind of been beaten

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot more from that brief space walk. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because in addition to that swelling, you'd have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bruising as well. Yeah, so he'd be pretty battered.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't just you know, shake it off, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how you know, tough an astronaut he really is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I Ben Franklin would be uh, he'd be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That ninety two window a little worse for wear, but

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<v Speaker 1>he would be okay. Now I can't help but think

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<v Speaker 1>back to some stuff we talked about in our episode

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<v Speaker 1>the Werewolf Principle, where we talked about cyborgs in space. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>cyborgs in space, of course, was this paper by Manford E.

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<v Speaker 1>Klins and Nathan S. Klein published in Astronautics in September

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty and it was pretty pivotal, like they

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<v Speaker 1>basically infinite the word cyborg um. And they were talking,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, their whole thesis here was let us consider

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<v Speaker 1>changing the organism to meet the demands of a new environment,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of bringing a portion of that organism's native environment

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<v Speaker 1>with them into hostile environments. In other words, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>problem with with the humans exposing themselves to the void

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<v Speaker 1>and suffering all this damage is because, surprise, surprise, we

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<v Speaker 1>are not meant we are we we are not meant,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not We have not evolved to live in

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of an environment. Um, So to what extent

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<v Speaker 1>could we change ourselves to better deal with an environment

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<v Speaker 1>like that? Here's a quick quote from that paper, just

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<v Speaker 1>to refresh everybody. They said, give man in space, in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to flying his vehicle, must continually be checking on

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<v Speaker 1>things and making adjustments, merely in order to keep himself alive.

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<v Speaker 1>He becomes a slave to the machine. The purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>the cyborg, as well as his own homeostatic systems, is

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<v Speaker 1>to provide an organizational system in which such robot like

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<v Speaker 1>problems are taken care of automatically and unconsciously, leaving man

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<v Speaker 1>free to explore, to create, to think, and to feel.

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<v Speaker 1>So among the various things that that the author suggested,

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<v Speaker 1>uh they brought up enzymes enzyme tinkering to create anaerobic organisms.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, astronauts that don't require air or can

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<v Speaker 1>live in different atmospheres lower body pressure to facilitate space walks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about naked spacewalks, but to to make

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<v Speaker 1>it less of a you know, a differential um and

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<v Speaker 1>and various other options as well. So it so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite a magic ball that allows us to see

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what we might be doing in the future. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I love that that even this, this older paper

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<v Speaker 1>did force us to think about an age when we're

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<v Speaker 1>changing ourselves to deal with space well. And um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have European Space Agency tests that are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>something like an Arthur Pod like creature Tarte grade to

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<v Speaker 1>try to find out why this particular creature can survive

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<v Speaker 1>in the vacuum for up to ten days. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what what special about was going on in its physiology

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<v Speaker 1>and what might we borrow from it. Now, as you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that that, um, that paper really was pressent in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the sense that it was trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the various ways that we would try to adapt

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves with the technology that we have. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>Mars is on the books forties or at least that's

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<v Speaker 1>the idea right now. That doesn't mean that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be taking naked spacewalks. But the longer we are

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<v Speaker 1>in space, the more time that you know that, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're run a three year mission, um, the more your

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<v Speaker 1>chances of having these sort of issues come up with

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<v Speaker 1>space suits depress rising, and so the more interesting this

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<v Speaker 1>question becomes what happens when you expose yourself to the vacuum?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just this you know, romantic side death

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<v Speaker 1>drive of just floating off into space you know, forever more.

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<v Speaker 1>But it really is this fascinating question of how what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happens to yourself and how how could you so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go beyond your human limits? H it Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help but think I guess that the fiction

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<v Speaker 1>uh writer and sci fi fantomy can't help but imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what if what have we we reached a point where

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<v Speaker 1>exposure to the void was like a rite of passage,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like um like I think that I think

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<v Speaker 1>the various things here on Earth that like the interstellar

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<v Speaker 1>right of passage? Yeah, like well, like for instance, I

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<v Speaker 1>think to the George R. Martin books and there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a there are a group of people there that live

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<v Speaker 1>in the Iron Islands, and they're all sort of like vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>but but they have this right of passage that they

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<v Speaker 1>all go through where they're all essentially drowned and resuscitated,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about forging the relationship with the water and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and uh and there were their their religion and

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<v Speaker 1>the way they view the water and their eventual return

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<v Speaker 1>to the ocean in the form of drowning or death.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't help but imagine something similar with with

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<v Speaker 1>with ast Not's in the future, Like what have would

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<v Speaker 1>have to become a man or to become a um,

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, a full pledged adult, uh, space faring human,

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you had to do those nine seconds in the void,

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and be changed by it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>imagining this uh future, Tony Robbins, that's right, what I

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>guess thinking about the firewalking. Yeah, a very extreme, very

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>dangerous form of firewalking. We've terraformed several planets. You've got

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 1>this interstellar right of passage. If you want to show

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>your how strong you are as a human, then you

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>will expose yourself to the void. Yeah, surely somebody has

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>done that before. If they haven't, I thought of it first.

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.959
<v Speaker 1>So cut me in on the deal. That's right, all right, Well,

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>there you have it, Um, spacewalk nude, Ben Franklin, Ben Franklin.

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna explode, he's not gonna boil, but he's

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna die, That's all there is to it. But

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>unless he gets inside within a certain amount of time

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>nine seconds, and we have some people on hand to

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<v Speaker 1>revive him. On that note, let's call over the robot

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and have a little listener mail. You know, we heard,

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>we heard a lot of stuff back regarding our episode

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<v Speaker 1>on watch Stoppers, on the idea that some people just

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wear watches because they have crazy electronic signals going

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>on in their bodies, or they've got magnetic powers, or

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>they're living too close to high, high tension wires, et cetera.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>So we did a whole episode sort of looking at

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that from a skeptic that kind of stirred stirred the

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>beehive a little bit. We did. Yeah, yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read just a couple of the replies we

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>received here um with the various ideas about it. This

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>one comes to us from Jen. Jen writes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>high Robert and Julie I recently listened to your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on debunking the myth about individuals who claimed they can't

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>wear watches. I am relieved to say that I was

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<v Speaker 1>someone who thought I killed my watches, and with good cause.

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>About three years ago. I went through five batteries in

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>about three months and just one watch. I then went

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 1>on to wear other watches my backups. I suppose that

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>all went dead within a short amount of time. I

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>finally gave up around the same time. I was at

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor's office in an exam room when the clock

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 1>on the wall uh spontaneously went crazy, spinning forward in

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>time three hours in just ten minutes. And you know

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that's because you when you're a doctor's room. The clock

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>never met The staff had to take it down and

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>take out the batteries, and then made a comment about

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>my breaking the clock. Sadly, none of this translated into

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>time stopping superpowers from me, no matter how am I

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>not much I tried. After listening to your podcast, I

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>decided to get another battery for my dead watch. I'm

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>happy to say that after twenty four hours, it is

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>still ticking. Thank for the podcast and keep up the

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>good work. And who is up from that was from Gin.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, John, let us know if it's still working.

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I would be curious. Yeah, because, as I mentioned to

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<v Speaker 1>uh one of our listens on Facebook, it was a

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>little irritated with the with the skeptics approach, and um,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I told her, I would love to

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>live in in a world where humans had these powers.

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>So if there's evidence that it the it that it,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that it happens, I would love to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in her case too, wasn't it just a bunch

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>of different electronics that? Um? Yeah, And I'm affected by her, yes,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's not just think she wanted to send

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>us some sort of paper she found, which I would

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I would, So I'm holding off on non reading any

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>of her comments until such time as she supplies that.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>But we have a few other ones here heard from Eric,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>and Eric writes and it says the first thing I

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>wondered when you were talking about watch stoppers was can

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they wear the old fashioned mechanical wind up type of watch?

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>These watches are powered by spring. You have to wind

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>up every day, no battery, no electricity. You did mention

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the shielded watches. I bet that would work, not because

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the watches shielded, but because it's a higher quality, I

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>never stopped to watch. But I did have a very

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>cheap watch that caused my entire arm to swell up

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and turn red. It was very painful, but the watch

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>was still working when I threw it away. Well, at

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>least you threw the watch away and not the arm,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>all right, And we also have a few Facebook comments

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>about the issue. Summer Rights sentence says, good morning, I

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>just finished listening to your podcast watch Stoppers, and I

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>immediately thought of my mother. She has always been one

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of those people who couldn't wear watches, but she has

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>also had issues regarding all electronics. She worked for a

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>company that manufactured circuit boards, and all employees needed to

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>wear a grounding band so they wouldn't short circuit the

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>boards while working on them. When my mother first started

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>working there, the QC department noticed a lot of her

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>boards were coming back dead, so they ended up testing

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>her with a machine at the register's static electricity. As

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a result, they discovered that even with the band on,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the area around her was still off the scale, and

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>the only way that they were able to combat it

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was to have her wear three bands at any given time. Also,

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>when we signed up for our cell phone plan, I

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>got my mother the same phone iPhone as the rest

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of our family, and this day she can never keep

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>a charge on them. I say that them because we've

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>swapped it out at least two times for more than

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>three to four hours. So while I'm sure some things

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>are situational, like my mother's television screen outputting in green

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>bad tube, I couldn't help but think there might be

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>some credence who reclaimed that electronics and her don't have

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the healthiest relationship. He had the great work. Sincerely, Summer. Well,

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't help but think about Michael Persinger,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>who I think i'd bring up probably like once every

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>two months. But he is the guy who worked with

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>transcarannial magnets and was able to actually manipulate parts of

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the brain that had to do with seeing visions through

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>these magnets. And he found that some people were more

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>susceptible to the magnets than other people that had a

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>high nobility or a lovability and um, so there's sort

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of a question mark to me about what that means

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in terms of electromagnetic activity. I still stand by, you know,

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a watch as a watch and we tend to bang

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it around, but that that particular experiment is very interesting

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>to me. The transcarannial magnets cool. All right. We also

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>heard from Kelly. Kelly writes in this says, Hello, guys,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I love the show and the blog. I wanted to

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>write in a tangential response to the past two podcasts

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>on what Human Watch Stoppers and lightning rods. My problem

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>is to touch screens don't work for me. iPhones, iPods,

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>e readers, and many other devices that are becoming so

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>common in everyday life are close to me due to

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>this handicap, including the self checkout at my local library

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and many a t m s. While trying to figure

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>this out, my very clever daughter pointed out that is

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a healthcare worker in an inner city hospital and minor germophobe.

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I wash my hands dozens of times per day and

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>also use alcohol based sanitizers nearly as often throwing a

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of surgical scrubs with ionized soaps, and my hands

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.479
<v Speaker 1>are chronically dry and cracked, despite the best lotions by

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>pharmacists can recommend. All this washing has effectively removed the

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>moisture and sweat from my skin. Thus I cannot transmit

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a charge to from a device. I find some help

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>if I use the stylist, because the the metal of

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the body of the style is touches more of my

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>hand palm and increases the chance of making a connection.

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>In times of desperation, I have resorted to licking my

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>fingers to get it to work. This is a real problem.

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>More and more of the machines I interact with as

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>part of my work are using touch screen technology. While

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>some of them might use different types of screens resistive, surface,

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>acoustic wave, they're enough ones like this that I'm getting very,

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>very frustrated. I thought you might like the story. Perhaps

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.479
<v Speaker 1>some of your listeners had a similar problem or nova solution.

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So far, my best response is to hand the phone

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to my teenager, who rolls her eyes at how mom

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>can't use technology. Well, there's the hot dog method. I

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>think we brought up the idea of using a hot

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>dog as a stylus. Yeah, that's pretty um a pretty

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>good way to go, and imagined a began would work

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>as well. There's less Greece. Yeah, but that's interesting, interesting

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>firsthand account of some of the problems that can occur

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>when we're trying to interact with this uh ubiquitous technology.

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:39.959
<v Speaker 1>And then finally we heard from Sean, who writes Sinences

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>High Guys. I was just listening to the Human Lightning

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Rod episode. I can say from experience that a car

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>is a safe place in a storm, because I was

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>inside one that was struck by lightning. I'm an archaeologist

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in upstate New York, and I was driving back in

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the rain from the day of excavating on the New

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>York State Throwaway. We were at a toll plaza and

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>when bang, there was a flash of light in the

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>car stalled. I dream some words you can't say on

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. We managed to restart the car and went

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>back to the University at Albany. In the parking lot,

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>we saw that the bolt had hit the top rear

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>brake light and exited through the rear right tire, which

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was now flat. Nobody was hurt, just really shaking up.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>What was really weird was that the rest of my crew,

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>only a few cars behind us, didn't see anything happen

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>at all. I love the show, Sean. Have you ever

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>been in the car when lightning struck nearby? Not to

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>my knowledge, very disconcerting. Yeah, yeah, and thank goodness, there's

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the Faraday effect in play right, keeping you safe inside cool. Well.

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, if anyone else has any comments or personal

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>accounts related to lightning strikes and watches that mysteriously stopped

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>working or other electronic devices that we have trouble interacting

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>with in a chronic fashion, but we would love to

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>hear about it, and we would love to hear about

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on this episode about naked space walks, about

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>taking your helmet off, and outer space. Um, about the science,

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>about the science fiction. I know there's some great examples

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.760
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0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>not aware of, and I know you guys and gals

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>will fill me in on that, and I'd love to

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.720
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