WEBVTT - A Halloween RUM-ble: RHOA Recap 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:39.040 scripted as well. All right, so the time has come, Jasmine, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.560 Claudia and Blue for us to discuss the latest episode 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.640 of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:47.680 Yes, we have to. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.760 Get into the first scene of this episode, which is 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:52.480 she Meia. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.240 So girls Sawmia business deal. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.120 So to rewind a little bit to update the rain drops, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:09.240 Shamiah had a rum punch brand that wanted her to 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.600 hop on as a brand ambassador. She wanted some equity 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.560 in it. Gerald, her husband, had a phone call with them. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.800 He didn't think the deal was right. We have learned 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:24.120 in this episode Blue that the deal actually fell through 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.959 and they wanted her to buy it at market price. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:36.440 Shamiah is devastated and doesn't want Gerald to give her 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.959 the I told you so speech blue to Lousma, what 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.760 are your thoughts on Shamiah's business deal falling through? 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.160 Are you surprised or should. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.840 Shamia get rid of the rum bumb and stick to 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:56.320 being America's greatest housewife of Atlanta. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.440 First of all, I just want to say, Samia, I, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.960 whatever that outfit was that you were to the lawyer's office, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.040 good guard, because she did you see that the cats suit, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.920 the dripped and chocolate with the booty sitting up the lawyer. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.040 I'm surprised you couldn't even get a sentence together. Girl, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.919 You look good. I am not a hater. You look 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.840 the Yeah. So that was distracting. I had to be 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.800 like what she talking about? But then once I finally 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.840 got over what it was in front of me, I 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.200 will say, they don't take a businessman to know that 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.840 selling peach rum in a place with no peaches. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.320 Might not be a thing. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.600 Yeah, you know what I mean, you know one plus 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.079 one sometimes it's still too So I think the people 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.840 were like, we're just gonna tell us to your wholesale 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:38.799 because this is ridiculous. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.760 I don't blame them peach rum. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.440 We ain't got no peaches, girl, And people in the 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.360 Caribbean are very proud of their products and of their culture, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.799 so to sell something that's atypical to the culture is 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.880 probably a big part of why they didn't buy into it. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.480 So yeah, I mean, yeah. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.600 You don't have to be you know, Nicko Dominus to 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.639 see this that wasn't gonna work out. I still think 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.040 she looked at the hell though, I still like the 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.280 fact that she's still gonna go for it. Maybe why 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.639 can't you do an Atlanta She's from it, she's in Atlanta. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.639 I think she just needs to move the location to 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.520 make it a little bit more cohesive. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.160 As far as branding, the branding is off. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:13.880 Yeah, well I was. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:18.600 I'll say this, I'll get to Claudia and jazz. Look, huh, 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:26.600 I love Shemia a deep side and and look, I understand. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.280 And this is gonna be very unpopular and I'm not 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.360 setting back. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.320 The women's movement when I say this, So save your 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.040 hate tweets, your hate messages. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.200 I do feel like this. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:45.440 I think if you inherently right, if you have like 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.840 Kisha kyor a good example, since you brought her name up, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.720 if you have this fired and desire to be a 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.400 business woman, right, and it keeps you up at night. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.160 When I work with Keisha, I've learned that Keisha keeps 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:04.000 a notepad on her nightstand because she juts down ideas 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.560 and she'll wake them in the middle of the night 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.080 and have ideas and then she executes it the next 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.160 day with her team. If you don't, I'm not saying 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.920 that verbatim. You have to have that, but if you 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.599 don't have that spirit of fire for business, it's okay 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.640 not to not to have that. And the one thing 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.240 I do not want for Shemiah, I don't want Shemiah 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.279 to fall under the tropes that just because you are 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.799 on a reality show, you have to have a storyline 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.120 of a business, and I don't want that for her. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:40.159 I my opinion as somebody who does know Shemiah. Shamiah 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.800 is an entertainer, right, It's sort of like how and 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.240 I love her. It's sort of like how people look 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:54.640 at Beyonce's failed businesses, right, And when you look at Beyonce, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.400 she's the greatest entertainer of our time. And that's why 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.919 all her when it comes to music, unstoppable. When it 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.719 comes to the other stuff she's done, it hasn't always 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.960 worked out Sacred is doing well now, thank God, But 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.520 other stuff happens so much. Right, But you look at 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.880 Beyonce and it's sort of like, you don't have to 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.520 match fintigue. Not saying she wants to. You don't have 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.440 to do skims, not saying she's competing with them. But 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.080 what I'm saying is it's okay to be the greatest 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.679 entertained in the world. I look at Shamiyah, and after 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.560 being in her house, I not said this to Shamia, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.320 so I'm not saying anything that I'm saying to her face. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:40.279 I want Shamiyah more Tim and Wanghee to be the 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:47.599 greatest living American Black housewife of all time. And I'm 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:53.760 telling you she can literally be that, and I will 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.760 be okay. Shamiah is on the level of Marjorie Harvey. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:04.480 Oh oh, Shamia, And I know Marjorie. Shamiya is on 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:05.720 the level of a Marjorie. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:11.960 Yeah. Mia is on the level of the women whose 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:17.560 husbandsiness like exist exist. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:24.000 And I want Shmia to know, baby, it's okay to exist. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.640 Wow. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.920 I was to be famous, sure? 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:30.080 Yeah? 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:30.960 And also. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.120 Whish was that easy right for some some people? Can 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.200 I remember getting a guy when I was like going 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.080 through a phase. I wasn't really making that much money 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.600 and he was, and he proposed to me whatever, And 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.920 I loved the benefit of being in a mansion and 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.120 all the things right, all the stuff that comes up 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.520 being with somebody wealthy, but I felt like I needed 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.479 my own thing for my value, right, and some people 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.120 and everyone's wired like that, I like I needed something 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.680 and I didn't have to, but I just like I 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.520 needed to. It's like, I think she be as that 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.560 times one hundred, and I think the spotlight of being 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.840 on a reality show makes her feel it even more right. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:11.480 Everybody thinks, and I don't know who. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.040 She got people in her ear, well, you should do this, 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.560 you should use your platform, and you should do a 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.120 rum line. Yeah it's bad ideas though, a rum line 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.440 around peaches and it's on peaches in the place you 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.160 want to, you know, manufacture. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.760 It is not a good idea. Who told you that? 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:23.680 You know? 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.160 And maybe she'll find our purpose in something else, maybe 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:26.960 continue working. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:27.320 With the Hawks. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.400 So I don't know, but yeah, it would be nice 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.400 if she could feel like that would be enough. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.360 But you know, I don't know. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.720 I feel like women kind of feel like a lot 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.800 of times we gotta be everything, you know, and there's 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.520 a lot of pressure on us, like they, oh, you're 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.760 just then then then the complaint would be, well, you're 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:41.600 just a housewife. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.240 I feel like you damn if you do you damned 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:43.680 if you don't. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.560 And I'll be like and guess what. And this is 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:48.680 when I say this, because you know how they love 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:49.720 to click our stuff, right. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.560 Blue, Yeah, oh yeah, So I'm not talking about any 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.640 of the Atlanta Housewives. When I say this, before y'all 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.520 know and say Carlos hates you. If they do say that, Claudia, 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.680 I would say, and bitch, I don't have to worry 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.200 about where my mortgage is gone. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.760 I don't have to worry about any. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.640 Of these things. My husband loves me. Actually, we're celebrating 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.680 nine years of marriage. My husband's at home. I don't 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.800 have to worry where he wakes up at night or 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.800 in the morning. I know where he's at. My husband 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.160 actually encourages me to be on this show. Do I 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.320 think Shamia is chasing fame? Listen, all those girls are 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.040 chasing fame, so that's not a bad thing. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.400 I chase the fame of all you want. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.320 I just don't want Shamiah to feel pressured to have 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.920 a business. I really want if I was Shamia's manager, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:44.480 publicist on her team, and Shami, if you're watching, I'm giving. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.320 You this for free, not free game. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.240 Yes, because I love I love the girls, right, Shemiah 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.080 followed you, I would focus on. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.920 Your career as an entertainer. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.120 Samia can act, she can sing, and she can dance, 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.000 and I will focus on that thing. I don't think 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.160 you need to follow the footsteps of other women who 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.319 need to have a LLC and a business. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:19.880 I think, Shemiah, you are such a great woman. You 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:21.800 that when I saw Gerald look. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:28.360 At her girls, you all deserve a man who looks 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.240 at y'all the way Gerald looks at Shamia. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.840 H received that. J already got it, but it. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.160 I wish that for all. I wish that for other 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:42.360 girls too, I really do. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.880 I get it last more than three months. 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.800 I get about eight weeks or that, and then who's 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:50.400 this amazing? 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.840 Right? But Erica j you're saying Erica Jane rather than 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.000 Lisa vander Pump because she's trying to pull pull a 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.280 Lisa vander Pump and be the woman with all the 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:00.640 rich husband in the business. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.199 But she's more Erica Jane. If I'm thinking about the 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.880 way that you're describing and won't. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.000 I won't even go and the reason, Okay, I love 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.000 you Erica Day. I won't say Erica Dane because Tom 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.120 was doing some sadie shit before. Yeah yeah, yeah, but 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.240 as someone okay, as someone who has met Marjorie Harvey. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.000 Marjorie Harvey is. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:29.920 Such a beautiful, without makeup, confident woman who Steve Harvey 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.400 has said in every interview I became richer because of her. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.040 Everything I am is because of her. And I think 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.080 what Gerald, Gerald, I'm telling you because I know men 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.120 and women like you all do too. I think Gerald 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.680 looks at Sia like you're my dream girl. He messed 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:56.960 me up in his forties, no kids, and said I 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.680 want you. And it's not lost on me that he 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.640 fell in love and selected and chose and fell in 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:10.359 love with this beautiful chocolate woman in the the BBLS 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.240 and all this shit like Gerald and his forty saw 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.480 shoued me at a nightclub and said I want you. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.960 I want you and the life that he has given her. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.000 I just say this, I don't think anything unless Gerald 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.360 doing something I don't know about, child, I'll say this 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.240 much on the record, I don't think anything is worth 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:32.920 losing Gerald. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.640 I don't think so either. That's been my fear, not 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.880 a fear like I think it's gonna happen, but I do. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.320 I think Tremia is underestimating how much like we would 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.280 want to see her just being a stay at home wife, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:46.920 or not even just stay at home wife, because we 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.080 talk about it like the rum thing is the only 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.320 business venture that she was gonna embark on. She's been 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.240 She's been like with the Hawks for years, and I 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.040 think pre Gerald right, like she's been doing stuff before him. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.920 But it's like this thing on How Housewives. They all 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.560 get on this show and think that we need a 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.080 storyline of them by starting a business that then the 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.199 next season we just never hear anything else about this business, right, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.400 Like I don't really care about that. I do want 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.360 to see Marshamia's homelife because when she came on as 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.000 a full time housewife last season, that's all we were 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.040 talking about, like, Oh, she's actually wealthy, she's actually married, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.640 she has the family, she has a connection, she has 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.719 the fun life. Kay Michelle was saying, every time you 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.240 talk to Shamia on the phone, she's asked, somebody's mall shopping. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:31.719 I want to see that. I would love to see that, Josh, though, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.720 show ponies want to trot. That's the only piece that's missing. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.559 Is she Unlike Marjorie Harvey. She is a like a 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.120 old school cabaret kind of girl. Like she's a chow 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.760 pony who wants to prance. And that to Claudia's point, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.359 the spirit of prance. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.680 Is in our girls. She's not gonna get rid of it. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.440 It's in her nature. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.920 Well, let's love me. Watch you prance, not fucking talking 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.320 in a business meeting about rum. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.040 That's fair. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.000 I would watch you dance. I would watch you do 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.760 your your one two step or whatever in the studio, 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.840 dropping some beats. I would watch you do that. I 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.760 don't want to down to your lawyer's office. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.840 Everybody the lawyer's office. It is a sight. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.679 But I'm gonna get to your next Claudia. But now 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.000 I get what I'm sorry, Blue. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.440 I now get why you said Erica Jane because I 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:18.880 forgot that Erica's. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.040 Jane was. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:22.000 Was. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.320 This was this very niche pop star for the Games. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.959 It was a very niche audience that she catered to 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.600 make her happy, so so to your to your point, yes, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.240 Tomia follow the footsteps of Erica Jane in terms of 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.480 finding a very niche audience. I will say this as 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.880 somebody who would who is now listening to Afro gospel. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.920 Claudia is Claudia, Claudia. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:55.079 It's baby. Oh the way the praise, the Lauren in 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.160 the in the in the afro punks sort. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:57.880 Of like sound. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.280 I love it, I need it. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:05.880 So Smia, be an afro punk artist, be a very 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.680 neat artist, and do your thing, all right, go ahead, Claudia. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.600 I think we gotta be careful about telling women what 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.680 they should be doing, because we would feel better about 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:17.400 it like that. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.720 It's given me. Shut up and dribble, Lebron James. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.200 You can only be an athlete, it is, And I'm 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.520 not really liking what this conversation is going. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.160 If I gotta be real about it. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.440 We would like to see Shami just be a housewife, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.000 just do this. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.440 Why who the fuck are we to say. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.080 That her dancing sing personally because she's good at dancing. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.240 To say that Shemiah trots she does with the big 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.440 old high clide zeal pony booty. That's fabulous, right, but 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.040 let's not act like everyone on that is not fame thirsty. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.680 They all are, but it's digestible through different people because 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.880 you may like that one's personality a little bit more. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.800 This one does it a little bit better or better. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.760 Shd be as awkward and she can rub people the 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.920 wrong way. But they all are on a reality show 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.960 because they all want fame and they all want attention, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.720 and they all trot, and they all wear catsuits and 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:09.040 they all show a cameltoe. They all do it. Every 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.840 single one of them has done it. But it's just 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.280 to me it's turned in the hot sea because it's 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:13.880 the first couple of years she awkward and she's rubbing 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.280 some people the wrong way with some of the stuff. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.960 Some of the I don't like that she does, and 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.160 I think some of the things are self imposed, the 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.280 drama that comes to her, like you know sometimes, but 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.560 like I don't know about telling her like she should 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.720 just sit. I get what you're saying, Carlos, but like 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.560 for her, I just think about for her, she probably 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.000 feels like I can't just be that, Like was I 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.880 put on this earth like to just be a wife 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.440 and then yeah, I'm a rich man's wife. But what 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.960 if that goes left one day, then I'm just starting 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.160 over with nothing, Like is it wrong to want to 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.520 pursue and have something on my own? So I could 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.400 feel a little bit of put my shoulders back a 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.360 little bit more instead of just being married to the 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.800 rich guy, because we got we all have people that 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.520 were married to the rich guy, and when the guy 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.880 wanted to pull the plug on the situation, you were 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.960 fucked up, like even on your girl Porsche, you know, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.920 like and that this is not a jabber her. I 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.600 actually felt bad when things were left and the guy 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.560 just left and took stuff. That's a bad situation. I 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.880 don't I don't wish that on anybody like that can't 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.920 feel cool. Not saying Joel's want to do that, But 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.520 I understand like not feeling secure with just being married 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.080 to a rich man, because that could change, and if 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.200 you haven't developed anything else in the meantime, you're kind 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.240 of like, I'm starting from square one. I have a friend, well, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.000 we all have friends. I could just tell a million stories. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.200 But I get why you want to have something of 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.640 your own. But I think about a lot of rich, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.200 wealthy women do that. Maybe this could be a lane 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.280 for her, not telling her what she should do is 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.280 if it's not a career thing, a singing thing, but 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.200 I think she should stick to the entertainment, even something 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.720 that can feel gives us some kind of purpose, like 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.600 a charity, something that is close to her heart, you know, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.720 like she has a child with a condition, like maybe 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.400 in the honor of her child, like with raising funds 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.000 for research. I don't know, but something that makes her 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.480 feel like away from Gerald, I have this thing that 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.440 is mine. We talk about some people wanting something that's 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.880 all theirs. Shimia has that right to something that's for 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:01.440 her too. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:02.960 I have a question. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.960 I just have a quick question, the same way Keisha 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.640 Kiyor saw what Carlos was working with and j just 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.520 did because we know Smiyah is so talented with singing 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.080 and entertainment. Is this asking her to abandon herself or 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.679 just asking her to have more laser focus in the 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.639 lane that she's already really excellent in. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.760 I think she should. I think she should so pursue. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.119 I think she should definitely still be asking all that 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:27.720 kind of stuff. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:32.640 And you know what, so what the rum line failed? 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.760 So what when you're a business woman, Guess what then? 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:36.760 Are our home runs. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.119 I'm sure before Candy had Candy Code of Nights and 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.640 knocked it out the park, I'm sure there was something 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.720 else that didn't go through. You know, before port she 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.439 had go naked, before Kenya had her hair. Like, people 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.480 stumble along the way to success, and I don't feel 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.000 like Shamiah should get extra criticism for that. Doing what 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.480 most entrepreneurs do. They usually fail a few times on 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.080 the way up. 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.920 You know what I'm saying, and I agree with you, 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.120 and I'm gonna get you to I want to make it. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.000 Clear I was because I agree with you. I wasn't 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.240 saying Shamiah should just be a rich man's wife. I 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.440 wasn't saying that right. What I was saying was, I 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.200 think everybody thinks having a business is cool. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.359 And that's what I made the example of. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.679 If it's not a fine desire with you, for example, everybody, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:20.600 not everybody. 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:21.720 There's a lot of people. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.199 Who want to do what we're doing right, and we 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.160 make it look easy, but it is this is this 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.480 takes work. Because we loved it. The fact that Blues 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.399 hopped off the flight and said, I'm coming to y'all 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.199 with no makeup because I love what I do. I 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.040 love you God, this is fun for me, and you 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.320 wouldn't you wouldn't think twice about like. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.160 Oh, you know where a makeup? But she felt competenttion. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.760 She's like, I'm blue fuck y'all, just like I was 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.080 just saying with Shemiah, as somebody who. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:53.240 Has been around her knows her, I my Spidey senses, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.680 and this is awesome being a producer. I'm not gonna 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.520 name names. There's an Atlanta housewife that I'm close to 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:05.680 who said to me once, I wasted so much money 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.440 as dumb ass business. I just did it for the 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:13.920 show because because you feel pressured to have a storyline 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:18.280 based on business. And as somebody who's known Shamia before 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:24.760 she met Gerald and seeing what she has now, I 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.600 was just saying, I think Shamia's focused should be on 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:32.240 entertainment and building that repertoire and not focused on having 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:38.400 a liquor line, because I don't think that's her passions. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.320 Yeah, but you agree with that. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:42.640 Yeah, No, I was gonna say, Claudia, that's a great 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.520 point to bring up, and I respect that. I'm just 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.320 talking about, like what I want to see on the show. 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.359 She can do one hundred different business ventures. I don't 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.239 really want to see that on the show like that, 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.240 you know what I'm saying, Like, that's not where I 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.760 think she is like the most entertaining. And so I'm 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.480 just speaking like when I say this is what I 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.040 want to see from her specifically on the show, I'm 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.240 not I don't really think about these women like outside 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.280 of my own entertainment. I know that's a very selfish thought, 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.840 but I am an audience member, a fan of the show, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.159 So I'm only thinking about how I'm going to be entertained, 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.560