1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Joe podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,577 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app 3 00:00:17,857 --> 00:00:30,457 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. It's been more than 4 00:00:30,497 --> 00:00:32,337 Speaker 1: a year and a half since Joe Biden took the 5 00:00:32,337 --> 00:00:34,457 Speaker 1: oath of office, and as many of us predicted, the 6 00:00:34,537 --> 00:00:38,537 Speaker 1: US Mexico border remains all but open. Hundreds of thousands 7 00:00:38,617 --> 00:00:41,057 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants continue to pour into the United States 8 00:00:41,097 --> 00:00:44,697 Speaker 1: every month, overwhelming border agents and leaving America vulnerable to 9 00:00:44,817 --> 00:00:48,137 Speaker 1: national security threats and drug traffickers. And this special edition 10 00:00:48,177 --> 00:00:51,457 Speaker 1: of Hold the Line an update on chaos at America's 11 00:00:51,457 --> 00:01:01,457 Speaker 1: southern border. We'll get into all of it. Welcome to 12 00:01:01,457 --> 00:01:03,857 Speaker 1: this special edition of Hold the Line. I'm Buck Sexton. 13 00:01:04,217 --> 00:01:06,937 Speaker 1: The Biden border is the worst it probably has ever 14 00:01:07,017 --> 00:01:10,817 Speaker 1: been in modern history of this nation. To be sure, 15 00:01:11,817 --> 00:01:16,057 Speaker 1: never before have we had so many illegal aliens from 16 00:01:16,137 --> 00:01:20,177 Speaker 1: so many countries, by the way, from countries all over 17 00:01:20,217 --> 00:01:22,817 Speaker 1: the world. We often think of illegal immigration as a 18 00:01:22,817 --> 00:01:26,977 Speaker 1: problem of mostly our countries to the south, Mexico, Central America, 19 00:01:27,177 --> 00:01:30,657 Speaker 1: South America, and certainly a lot of those countries are represented, 20 00:01:30,697 --> 00:01:34,217 Speaker 1: and even the case of Central America disproportionately show in 21 00:01:34,297 --> 00:01:37,577 Speaker 1: the illegal migrants in recent years. But there are people 22 00:01:37,617 --> 00:01:41,777 Speaker 1: showing up from Pakistan, from Thailand, from West Africa, from 23 00:01:41,857 --> 00:01:45,817 Speaker 1: you name it, all over the world coming into America 24 00:01:45,857 --> 00:01:50,137 Speaker 1: illegally of the southern border because it is so easy, 25 00:01:50,417 --> 00:01:51,937 Speaker 1: and you don't just have to take my word for it. 26 00:01:51,977 --> 00:01:54,177 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the numbers. The numbers speak for themselves. 27 00:01:54,177 --> 00:01:57,817 Speaker 1: This graph shows total border encounters between twenty nineteen and 28 00:01:57,857 --> 00:02:01,297 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two by month. In red. You can see 29 00:02:01,297 --> 00:02:05,737 Speaker 1: it's the highest number by far, shows the highest number 30 00:02:05,737 --> 00:02:10,057 Speaker 1: by far. I mean it's getting getting worse, folks. Okay, 31 00:02:10,137 --> 00:02:12,497 Speaker 1: border encounters are having going up and up and up, 32 00:02:12,857 --> 00:02:14,897 Speaker 1: and this is because people know they'll come into the 33 00:02:14,897 --> 00:02:18,097 Speaker 1: country illegally and they will be able to stay. Now, 34 00:02:18,097 --> 00:02:20,497 Speaker 1: here's a graph that shows total single adults crossing the 35 00:02:20,537 --> 00:02:24,257 Speaker 1: border by year. This year is more than the three 36 00:02:24,497 --> 00:02:28,337 Speaker 1: previous years together. Look at this. Twenty nineteen it was 37 00:02:28,457 --> 00:02:31,817 Speaker 1: point three six million, a few hundred thousand, twenty twenty 38 00:02:31,857 --> 00:02:34,377 Speaker 1: it was three hundred, it was point three millions a 39 00:02:34,457 --> 00:02:38,057 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand, twenty twenty one point two million, twenty 40 00:02:38,057 --> 00:02:41,697 Speaker 1: twenty two, one point two million. Okay, so by the 41 00:02:41,897 --> 00:02:46,897 Speaker 1: end of this year, you're gonna have more than likely 42 00:02:47,137 --> 00:02:50,657 Speaker 1: the previous three years all put together. What's going on here, folks? 43 00:02:50,697 --> 00:02:53,817 Speaker 1: What changed all of a sudden There's some big shift 44 00:02:53,857 --> 00:02:59,137 Speaker 1: in transportation globally. No, as we know, this is because 45 00:02:59,177 --> 00:03:03,177 Speaker 1: the Biden administration does not want to disincentivize illegal immigration. 46 00:03:03,337 --> 00:03:08,337 Speaker 1: They would like the continuation of the de facto open 47 00:03:08,497 --> 00:03:12,697 Speaker 1: border that we currently have. Now, this causes all kinds 48 00:03:12,697 --> 00:03:15,337 Speaker 1: of problems. First of all, there's just lawlessness of it. 49 00:03:15,657 --> 00:03:20,377 Speaker 1: There's the enormous influx of drugs coming in, including fentonel. 50 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:22,897 Speaker 1: Remember we had over one hundred thousand overdoses last year 51 00:03:22,897 --> 00:03:25,977 Speaker 1: this country. People dead from drugs, and these drugs are 52 00:03:26,417 --> 00:03:30,977 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly coming to the United States over the US Mexico border, 53 00:03:31,057 --> 00:03:37,457 Speaker 1: Vietna cartels, and there's just lawlessness and chaos going on. Meanwhile, 54 00:03:37,497 --> 00:03:41,137 Speaker 1: FBI Director Ray is pointing out here that illegal immigrants 55 00:03:41,137 --> 00:03:43,097 Speaker 1: coming from over one hundred and fifty countries and we 56 00:03:43,097 --> 00:03:44,697 Speaker 1: don't know who they are, what they're doing here. It 57 00:03:44,817 --> 00:03:48,537 Speaker 1: is a serious and significant security issue. Watch in one sector, 58 00:03:48,617 --> 00:03:53,857 Speaker 1: the del Rio sector, they reported encounters people from one 59 00:03:53,937 --> 00:03:58,177 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus countries. In other words, it's not 60 00:03:58,257 --> 00:04:01,377 Speaker 1: just a south of the border issue in terms of Mexico, 61 00:04:01,497 --> 00:04:05,577 Speaker 1: Central America and the like. This is an international human 62 00:04:05,857 --> 00:04:10,657 Speaker 1: smuggling network. Would you agree with me? I don't have 63 00:04:10,697 --> 00:04:12,537 Speaker 1: the numbers like it sounds like you do, but I 64 00:04:12,617 --> 00:04:17,217 Speaker 1: certainly know that it is an eclectic mix of nationalities 65 00:04:17,737 --> 00:04:21,977 Speaker 1: and the volume is just staggering, and that's a public 66 00:04:22,017 --> 00:04:26,377 Speaker 1: security threat. You agree with me? To me, it represents 67 00:04:26,417 --> 00:04:30,097 Speaker 1: a significant security issue and represents a wide array of 68 00:04:30,137 --> 00:04:33,297 Speaker 1: criminal threats that flow out of it. It is a 69 00:04:33,337 --> 00:04:36,977 Speaker 1: significant security issue. He said, What about the men and 70 00:04:37,017 --> 00:04:40,697 Speaker 1: women who are on our border trying to actually enforce 71 00:04:41,377 --> 00:04:43,417 Speaker 1: the law, how do they feel about their mission? Said? 72 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:46,057 Speaker 1: Do they think the Biden administration is in any way 73 00:04:46,097 --> 00:04:50,177 Speaker 1: supportive of them? Of course not. They don't want the 74 00:04:50,337 --> 00:04:53,457 Speaker 1: border patrol to be able to execute on their mission. 75 00:04:53,777 --> 00:04:56,097 Speaker 1: They want them to be overwhelmed. In fact, if you 76 00:04:56,177 --> 00:04:58,937 Speaker 1: listen to the Democrats, they seem to think that a 77 00:04:58,977 --> 00:05:02,417 Speaker 1: border patrol that is unable to prevent a legal entry 78 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:05,497 Speaker 1: and there's hundreds of thousands of godaways too. We don't 79 00:05:05,537 --> 00:05:08,217 Speaker 1: even look at those numbers. But people that are just 80 00:05:08,257 --> 00:05:09,897 Speaker 1: getting in the country free and clear of no idea 81 00:05:09,897 --> 00:05:13,617 Speaker 1: what are not even processed. But Democrats think that if 82 00:05:13,657 --> 00:05:18,337 Speaker 1: we have border patrol focused on getting sandwiches and diapers 83 00:05:18,337 --> 00:05:20,897 Speaker 1: and baby formula for illegals coming into the country, because 84 00:05:20,897 --> 00:05:23,137 Speaker 1: that's what they do a lot of the time, somehow 85 00:05:23,177 --> 00:05:24,617 Speaker 1: we're all safer and better off. This is the way 86 00:05:24,657 --> 00:05:27,337 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. Border Patrol isn't meant to keep 87 00:05:27,377 --> 00:05:29,977 Speaker 1: our nation secure at the border. It is a welcoming 88 00:05:29,977 --> 00:05:33,617 Speaker 1: committee for anybody who wants to violate our laws. Well, 89 00:05:34,137 --> 00:05:35,897 Speaker 1: it is in fact now the case that some members 90 00:05:35,897 --> 00:05:41,257 Speaker 1: of Border Patrol are stepping up and saying this is nonsense. 91 00:05:41,297 --> 00:05:46,217 Speaker 1: Watch this. We stay focused. We continue to do the 92 00:05:46,297 --> 00:05:50,617 Speaker 1: job on the mission we started up. We all signed 93 00:05:50,697 --> 00:06:05,617 Speaker 1: up dependent constitution order in the policies. That's like you 94 00:06:05,857 --> 00:06:10,017 Speaker 1: got left. You just say we're evil to triumph. Exactly 95 00:06:10,057 --> 00:06:16,257 Speaker 1: what's happening. Good men are doing nothing. You're for evil 96 00:06:16,297 --> 00:06:20,897 Speaker 1: to triumph. Good men do nothing. Order Patrol speaking out 97 00:06:20,937 --> 00:06:24,217 Speaker 1: here back in January, order prol agens just saying this 98 00:06:24,337 --> 00:06:26,297 Speaker 1: is madness. Can't even say a legal alien under the 99 00:06:26,337 --> 00:06:30,857 Speaker 1: directors from the White House in DC. It's outrageous. It's outrageous. 100 00:06:31,497 --> 00:06:34,297 Speaker 1: Now some states have begun to take some action on 101 00:06:34,297 --> 00:06:37,137 Speaker 1: this because they know the federal government under Biden has 102 00:06:37,177 --> 00:06:39,177 Speaker 1: no interest in changing the situation. It is not a 103 00:06:39,217 --> 00:06:41,457 Speaker 1: crisis to Joe Biden. In fact, it is an opportunity 104 00:06:41,497 --> 00:06:43,857 Speaker 1: to the Democrats. They want to bring in as many 105 00:06:43,857 --> 00:06:46,377 Speaker 1: people from the developing world, as many people who don't 106 00:06:46,377 --> 00:06:49,817 Speaker 1: speak English. We're going to need substantial government assistance as 107 00:06:49,897 --> 00:06:53,777 Speaker 1: possible through illegal means into the country. Forget about their illegality, 108 00:06:53,857 --> 00:06:57,457 Speaker 1: forget about the congressional statutes that they're violating by their 109 00:06:57,537 --> 00:07:00,377 Speaker 1: very presence in this country in the hopes that they 110 00:07:00,457 --> 00:07:04,217 Speaker 1: will become Democrat question of when the amnesty comes or 111 00:07:04,417 --> 00:07:06,257 Speaker 1: when they have children here. As we know, then you 112 00:07:06,297 --> 00:07:09,297 Speaker 1: have the anchor baby situation. They will raise those children 113 00:07:09,377 --> 00:07:12,377 Speaker 1: likely to vote Democrat. That is the Democrat plan. They've 114 00:07:12,377 --> 00:07:16,017 Speaker 1: stated this for many years. Greg Abbott in Texas and 115 00:07:16,057 --> 00:07:18,257 Speaker 1: some other governors are deciding that this is crazy. Here 116 00:07:18,257 --> 00:07:21,417 Speaker 1: he is announcing that just to show people what the 117 00:07:21,537 --> 00:07:24,457 Speaker 1: drain on resources can be, he has charter busses for 118 00:07:24,457 --> 00:07:27,137 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, sending them from the border to Washington, DC 119 00:07:28,057 --> 00:07:32,417 Speaker 1: to help local officials whose communities are being overwhelmed by 120 00:07:32,457 --> 00:07:35,337 Speaker 1: hordes of illegal immigrants who are being dropped off by 121 00:07:35,377 --> 00:07:41,857 Speaker 1: the Biden administration Texas is providing charter buses to send 122 00:07:42,257 --> 00:07:44,377 Speaker 1: these illegal immigrants who have been dropped off by the 123 00:07:44,377 --> 00:07:50,217 Speaker 1: Biden administration to Washington, DC. We are sending them to 124 00:07:50,417 --> 00:07:52,657 Speaker 1: the United States Capital, where the Biden administration will be 125 00:07:52,697 --> 00:07:55,097 Speaker 1: able to more immediately address the needs of the people 126 00:07:55,137 --> 00:07:58,577 Speaker 1: that they are allowing to come across our border. Then 127 00:07:58,777 --> 00:08:02,817 Speaker 1: back in April, Arizona Governor Doug Doocy announced that there 128 00:08:02,897 --> 00:08:05,017 Speaker 1: was going to be an American Governor's Border Strike Force. 129 00:08:05,097 --> 00:08:08,977 Speaker 1: Watch this today, We're announcing the American Governor's Border Strike 130 00:08:09,097 --> 00:08:12,697 Speaker 1: Force to do what the Biden administration refuses to do. 131 00:08:12,817 --> 00:08:15,257 Speaker 1: The numbers are staggering, and I want to say, this 132 00:08:15,337 --> 00:08:19,257 Speaker 1: is not an immigration crisis. 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I was watching a news channel and 160 00:10:02,617 --> 00:10:05,057 Speaker 1: they were talking about an invasion. What's happening, and I 161 00:10:05,057 --> 00:10:13,457 Speaker 1: got a little concerned. Look, the border, the border is secure, 162 00:10:14,377 --> 00:10:18,697 Speaker 1: the border. We are working to make the border more secure. 163 00:10:19,137 --> 00:10:23,257 Speaker 1: That has been a historic challenge. DJs Secretary Alejandre may 164 00:10:23,337 --> 00:10:27,417 Speaker 1: Orcas assuring Americans that the border is secure. Unfortunately, the 165 00:10:27,497 --> 00:10:31,297 Speaker 1: numbers tell a different story. For eight report from Fox News, 166 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:34,897 Speaker 1: an averager fifty five illegal immigrant gotaways have crossed the 167 00:10:34,937 --> 00:10:38,297 Speaker 1: border in the US but evaded capture since the start 168 00:10:38,297 --> 00:10:41,217 Speaker 1: a fiscal year twenty twenty two. That amounts to more 169 00:10:41,257 --> 00:10:44,217 Speaker 1: than five hundred thousand so far this year, already exceeding 170 00:10:44,297 --> 00:10:47,937 Speaker 1: last year's total of just under four hundred thousand. Despite 171 00:10:47,977 --> 00:10:50,137 Speaker 1: the clear need for leadership on this issue, the Biden 172 00:10:50,137 --> 00:10:53,577 Speaker 1: administration seems to be doing little, if anything, to stem 173 00:10:53,617 --> 00:10:57,537 Speaker 1: the flow of immigrants illegally into the country, leaving border 174 00:10:57,537 --> 00:11:00,337 Speaker 1: states like Texas and Arizona to fend for themselves. You 175 00:11:00,377 --> 00:11:02,177 Speaker 1: know what I mean now, is Resident Fellow in Law 176 00:11:02,217 --> 00:11:06,257 Speaker 1: and Policy for the Center for Immigration Studies Art Arthur Art. 177 00:11:06,257 --> 00:11:08,857 Speaker 1: Thanks for being one of us, Thank you for having me. 178 00:11:09,497 --> 00:11:12,377 Speaker 1: I'm let's just start with this with this gotaway number. 179 00:11:12,817 --> 00:11:16,217 Speaker 1: When they're talking about gotaways, that's just people who manage 180 00:11:16,257 --> 00:11:18,817 Speaker 1: to free and clear get in the United States, and 181 00:11:18,857 --> 00:11:20,617 Speaker 1: it's a half a million for the fiscal year that 182 00:11:20,777 --> 00:11:24,137 Speaker 1: it feels like a lot. Yeah, no, that's a huge number. 183 00:11:24,217 --> 00:11:26,177 Speaker 1: Keep in mind that there are a lot of years 184 00:11:26,217 --> 00:11:29,817 Speaker 1: between two seventeen and twenty nineteen we didn't get half 185 00:11:29,857 --> 00:11:33,337 Speaker 1: a million aliens who were apprehended at the southwest border. 186 00:11:34,057 --> 00:11:36,977 Speaker 1: And those goataways are aliens who don't want to be caught. 187 00:11:37,017 --> 00:11:39,457 Speaker 1: They don't want to turn themselves into border patrol and 188 00:11:39,537 --> 00:11:42,857 Speaker 1: you make fallacious claims for asylum. They want to evade 189 00:11:42,897 --> 00:11:45,777 Speaker 1: boarder patrol, which means but those are the worst, the worst, 190 00:11:45,897 --> 00:11:48,337 Speaker 1: the drug dealers, the terrorsts. They could be a lot 191 00:11:48,377 --> 00:11:50,737 Speaker 1: of people just covered for work, but we don't know 192 00:11:50,777 --> 00:11:53,737 Speaker 1: why they're here. We have to assume the worst and 193 00:11:53,817 --> 00:11:56,417 Speaker 1: the reason they got away numbers so large. Is it 194 00:11:56,457 --> 00:12:00,737 Speaker 1: fair to say it's in part because the border patrol 195 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:05,177 Speaker 1: is so stretched dealing with those who are surrendering under 196 00:12:05,257 --> 00:12:11,377 Speaker 1: our increasingly obviously ridiculous asylum policy which is being abused, 197 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:14,417 Speaker 1: and so they can't actually do the other part of 198 00:12:14,417 --> 00:12:16,297 Speaker 1: the mission, which is stopping people from just going to 199 00:12:16,377 --> 00:12:19,897 Speaker 1: the country and never surrender. Yeah, now that's exactly it. 200 00:12:19,977 --> 00:12:22,817 Speaker 1: In fact, we know that it spots on along the 201 00:12:22,857 --> 00:12:25,817 Speaker 1: Texas border. Only about thirty percent of agents are on 202 00:12:25,857 --> 00:12:29,417 Speaker 1: the line. I've been down there three times this year, 203 00:12:29,817 --> 00:12:32,057 Speaker 1: and where I used to see border patrol vehicles on 204 00:12:32,097 --> 00:12:34,297 Speaker 1: the street down by the river all the time, there's 205 00:12:34,337 --> 00:12:38,417 Speaker 1: no one. The cartels, the smugglers, they know that. So 206 00:12:38,457 --> 00:12:41,497 Speaker 1: what they'll do is they'll send families and kids across. 207 00:12:42,417 --> 00:12:45,137 Speaker 1: Border patrol has to then respond that creates gaps in 208 00:12:45,217 --> 00:12:48,697 Speaker 1: the line, that the drugs are moving through. Drug seizures 209 00:12:48,697 --> 00:12:50,857 Speaker 1: are down both at the border and the ports this year, 210 00:12:51,817 --> 00:12:55,377 Speaker 1: and that other got away criminals who knows are coming 211 00:12:55,377 --> 00:12:57,617 Speaker 1: through those gaps in the wall that are created by 212 00:12:57,657 --> 00:13:01,537 Speaker 1: the absence of border patrol. One interesting news story about 213 00:13:01,537 --> 00:13:04,657 Speaker 1: the border that just got out there recently is that 214 00:13:04,697 --> 00:13:08,017 Speaker 1: the Biden administrations apparently going to close gaps in the 215 00:13:08,057 --> 00:13:12,497 Speaker 1: border walls. From CNN, administration is authorized US Customs and 216 00:13:12,537 --> 00:13:14,817 Speaker 1: Border Protection to close gaps in a border wall in 217 00:13:14,897 --> 00:13:18,777 Speaker 1: Arizona near the Morellos Dam in order to protect migrants 218 00:13:18,817 --> 00:13:21,017 Speaker 1: from drowning and sustaining injuries while trying to cross the 219 00:13:21,017 --> 00:13:25,857 Speaker 1: Colorado River. In the United States, it seems to me 220 00:13:26,097 --> 00:13:30,737 Speaker 1: like you're just having the Democrats have to admit her. Well, 221 00:13:31,177 --> 00:13:36,377 Speaker 1: sometimes walls work, and in fact walls work in general. Yeah, no, 222 00:13:36,457 --> 00:13:39,857 Speaker 1: I mean that's definitely the case there. That segment is 223 00:13:39,977 --> 00:13:42,137 Speaker 1: known as the Yuma gamp. I was down there in 224 00:13:42,257 --> 00:13:46,257 Speaker 1: March and agents told me that they get so many 225 00:13:46,337 --> 00:13:49,537 Speaker 1: people come through there that you know, there's no agents 226 00:13:49,577 --> 00:13:51,577 Speaker 1: to pick them up, so the aliens will, you know, 227 00:13:51,617 --> 00:13:53,337 Speaker 1: stop and wait. When I was there, there were two 228 00:13:53,377 --> 00:13:55,657 Speaker 1: folding chairs and some water for them to drink while 229 00:13:55,697 --> 00:13:58,697 Speaker 1: they were waiting to get arrested. But you know, if 230 00:13:58,737 --> 00:14:01,457 Speaker 1: nobody shows something, just taken uber into Yuma, they get 231 00:14:01,497 --> 00:14:03,177 Speaker 1: a meal, they get cleaned up, and then they turn 232 00:14:03,257 --> 00:14:06,577 Speaker 1: themselves over to the Board Patrol. The reason that DHS 233 00:14:06,657 --> 00:14:09,737 Speaker 1: asserts it is closing the wall is to save lives, 234 00:14:10,297 --> 00:14:12,977 Speaker 1: slots and first responders, and it plainly will do that. 235 00:14:13,537 --> 00:14:16,497 Speaker 1: But I think that the bigger reason is because Senator 236 00:14:16,577 --> 00:14:22,137 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, who's up for reelection in Arizona in November, it's, 237 00:14:22,177 --> 00:14:25,897 Speaker 1: you know, facing strong headwinds because Joe Biden, especially his 238 00:14:25,977 --> 00:14:30,977 Speaker 1: immigration policies, are unpopular in the Grand Canyon state. So 239 00:14:31,657 --> 00:14:36,257 Speaker 1: again I'm grateful that they're doing it. Jeanpierre, the White 240 00:14:36,297 --> 00:14:39,577 Speaker 1: House Press Secretary, five times on Friday to night that 241 00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:42,697 Speaker 1: they were closing the wall, and yet she's don't contended 242 00:14:42,737 --> 00:14:46,057 Speaker 1: that they were doing it to save lives. Here is 243 00:14:46,097 --> 00:14:49,857 Speaker 1: Karen Jean Pierre speaking of the White House Press Secretary 244 00:14:50,417 --> 00:14:55,017 Speaker 1: on whether state should be involved in immigration issues, policing 245 00:14:55,057 --> 00:14:57,937 Speaker 1: the border, et cetera. Watch this, Governor Abbitt and Texas 246 00:14:58,057 --> 00:15:01,577 Speaker 1: sufficient and effective order to say, calling on the National 247 00:15:01,577 --> 00:15:05,337 Speaker 1: Guard kind officials there to apprehend the undocumented immigrants. So 248 00:15:05,337 --> 00:15:09,857 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the administration is planning any legal response, 249 00:15:10,577 --> 00:15:13,977 Speaker 1: if you'll prohibit the National Guards. So I'll say this, 250 00:15:14,057 --> 00:15:18,537 Speaker 1: the Immigration enforcement is a federal authority and states should 251 00:15:18,577 --> 00:15:23,537 Speaker 1: not be mandating it meddling in it. Okay, So what 252 00:15:23,737 --> 00:15:27,977 Speaker 1: is the legal reality here? What can states do? There 253 00:15:28,017 --> 00:15:30,337 Speaker 1: has been some deployment of National Guard, for example, by 254 00:15:30,377 --> 00:15:33,737 Speaker 1: Texas the southern border. I hear about these state initiatives 255 00:15:33,737 --> 00:15:37,017 Speaker 1: specifically in Texas and Arizona, obviously not in California, to 256 00:15:37,097 --> 00:15:39,857 Speaker 1: do something about this. What can they do? Are what's 257 00:15:39,857 --> 00:15:45,857 Speaker 1: the truth about where the states powers? You're stop and start? Well, unfortunately, 258 00:15:46,377 --> 00:15:49,577 Speaker 1: the states don't have the ability to deport any alien 259 00:15:49,617 --> 00:15:52,737 Speaker 1: back to Mexico. They're wholly depended upon DHS. They're wholly 260 00:15:52,737 --> 00:15:55,657 Speaker 1: dependent on the Biden administration to do that. What they 261 00:15:55,697 --> 00:15:58,617 Speaker 1: could do is what the Biden administration refuses to do 262 00:15:58,697 --> 00:16:01,817 Speaker 1: when that is to deter illegal migrants from the United States. 263 00:16:01,857 --> 00:16:06,417 Speaker 1: In fact, back on May one, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorcas 264 00:16:06,497 --> 00:16:08,657 Speaker 1: was asked on Fox News Sunday whether it was the 265 00:16:08,737 --> 00:16:12,057 Speaker 1: objective to the bidom and istration to limit the number 266 00:16:12,097 --> 00:16:15,537 Speaker 1: of aliens entering illegally, and he said no. Their job 267 00:16:15,697 --> 00:16:20,177 Speaker 1: was to ensure safe, orderly, and legal pathways for migrants 268 00:16:20,177 --> 00:16:23,017 Speaker 1: to access or legal system, which means that the Biden 269 00:16:23,017 --> 00:16:26,377 Speaker 1: administration doesn't want to deter anybody from entering illegally. They 270 00:16:26,457 --> 00:16:29,057 Speaker 1: want to have as many foreign nationals as want to 271 00:16:29,217 --> 00:16:31,657 Speaker 1: and who can get here apply for asylum in the 272 00:16:31,737 --> 00:16:34,137 Speaker 1: United States. Is there anything that you would advise the 273 00:16:34,217 --> 00:16:38,497 Speaker 1: governors of Texas and Arizona respectively to do in order 274 00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:40,617 Speaker 1: to try to help secure the border in some way. 275 00:16:41,857 --> 00:16:46,417 Speaker 1: I was actually inbedded in August with Texas State troopers 276 00:16:46,617 --> 00:16:48,697 Speaker 1: and they're doing exactly what they need to do. They're 277 00:16:48,737 --> 00:16:51,777 Speaker 1: looking for drug smugglers, they're looking for migrant smugglers. They're 278 00:16:51,817 --> 00:16:54,617 Speaker 1: doing the job that border patrol agents normally do in 279 00:16:54,657 --> 00:16:57,057 Speaker 1: which they could be doing right now, rather than warming 280 00:16:57,097 --> 00:17:02,617 Speaker 1: baby bottles and filling out papers. So I would advise 281 00:17:03,457 --> 00:17:07,257 Speaker 1: the governor of Arizona, Governor Ducy, to do exactly what 282 00:17:07,377 --> 00:17:11,537 Speaker 1: his colleague in Texas is doing. Rush resources down to 283 00:17:11,577 --> 00:17:14,177 Speaker 1: the border, try to help out border patrol, and keep 284 00:17:14,217 --> 00:17:17,537 Speaker 1: putting pressure through the courts on the administration to actually 285 00:17:17,577 --> 00:17:20,217 Speaker 1: enforce the law. Also wanted to know Art, what can 286 00:17:20,217 --> 00:17:24,937 Speaker 1: you tell us about the status of interior enforcement of 287 00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:29,377 Speaker 1: our immigration laws onto the Biden administration. So Judge Drew 288 00:17:29,457 --> 00:17:32,817 Speaker 1: Timpton down in Texas in a case called Texas versus 289 00:17:32,897 --> 00:17:38,177 Speaker 1: United States brought by Texas and Louisiana has vacated Alexandre 290 00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:43,617 Speaker 1: may orcuss September thirty non enforcement memo that basically called 291 00:17:43,697 --> 00:17:46,497 Speaker 1: off the vast majority of enforcement in the United States. 292 00:17:47,097 --> 00:17:50,137 Speaker 1: They Biden administration sought a stay of that from the 293 00:17:50,177 --> 00:17:52,937 Speaker 1: Fifth Circuit, which denied it in a pretty sharply worded order, 294 00:17:53,737 --> 00:17:55,657 Speaker 1: and then asked the Supreme Court to stay it, and 295 00:17:55,697 --> 00:17:57,337 Speaker 1: they refused to do that as well. But what the 296 00:17:57,377 --> 00:18:00,777 Speaker 1: Supreme Court agreed to do was to hear the appeal 297 00:18:00,857 --> 00:18:04,417 Speaker 1: from that decision. The Biden administration's appeal from that decision 298 00:18:04,737 --> 00:18:07,857 Speaker 1: bypassing the circuit board and hearing it directly, and that 299 00:18:07,897 --> 00:18:09,937 Speaker 1: will happen the first week in December. But for the 300 00:18:10,177 --> 00:18:13,737 Speaker 1: time being, we returned to the status quo prior to 301 00:18:13,777 --> 00:18:17,097 Speaker 1: the Biden administration. If we should have, as it relates 302 00:18:17,177 --> 00:18:20,217 Speaker 1: to immigration enforcement in the United States, whether the Biden 303 00:18:20,217 --> 00:18:23,897 Speaker 1: administration is actually letting that happen, however, it's a completely definition. 304 00:18:24,697 --> 00:18:27,377 Speaker 1: Our appreciate the aspertise is always thanks for being with us. 305 00:18:28,537 --> 00:18:31,857 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck. We'll be right back with more of 306 00:18:31,897 --> 00:18:41,577 Speaker 1: this special edition of Hold the Line. Does the current 307 00:18:41,697 --> 00:18:45,177 Speaker 1: nationwide shortage of infantformula have you asking what's next? Did 308 00:18:45,217 --> 00:18:46,857 Speaker 1: you know that nearly one hundred percent of our nation's 309 00:18:46,857 --> 00:18:49,657 Speaker 1: supply of antibiotics is produced outside the United States, mainly 310 00:18:49,697 --> 00:18:51,977 Speaker 1: in China and India. If we can't control our own 311 00:18:52,017 --> 00:18:54,537 Speaker 1: domestically produced baby formula, what about all the life saving 312 00:18:54,577 --> 00:18:58,217 Speaker 1: medications produced overseas? Any experts predict that if there were 313 00:18:58,257 --> 00:19:01,577 Speaker 1: a supply chain disruption in the pharmaceutical industry, pharmacies could 314 00:19:01,657 --> 00:19:04,217 Speaker 1: run out of antibiotics in a matter of weeks. 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As long as the Biden administration continues 329 00:20:03,377 --> 00:20:06,377 Speaker 1: to ignore the source of the drugs, the bodies will 330 00:20:06,457 --> 00:20:10,297 Speaker 1: tragically pile up. In this special edition of the Buck Brief, 331 00:20:10,297 --> 00:20:14,097 Speaker 1: I'll explain how open borders are feeding America's deadly drug habit. 332 00:20:19,977 --> 00:20:24,657 Speaker 1: Look it's very straightforward, and this actually brings in the 333 00:20:24,857 --> 00:20:27,417 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party as well. The Chinese Communist parady sells 334 00:20:27,497 --> 00:20:29,857 Speaker 1: precursor chemicals. So they've been trying to push back on 335 00:20:29,977 --> 00:20:32,497 Speaker 1: this in recent years to the Mexican drug cartels. The 336 00:20:32,537 --> 00:20:40,017 Speaker 1: Mexican drug cartels create these opioid which are highly addictive 337 00:20:40,177 --> 00:20:43,177 Speaker 1: and can be very lethal, very easy to overdose on them. 338 00:20:43,497 --> 00:20:46,617 Speaker 1: They're making enormous profits billions and billions of dollars from 339 00:20:46,657 --> 00:20:49,337 Speaker 1: this by moving those pills they're making. Remember, they don't 340 00:20:49,337 --> 00:20:53,537 Speaker 1: have to grow them. There's not specific conditions outdoors. It's 341 00:20:53,617 --> 00:20:56,617 Speaker 1: not like a coca plant or even heroin poppy. They 342 00:20:56,697 --> 00:21:00,977 Speaker 1: can make this in that's in these facilities that the 343 00:21:01,057 --> 00:21:04,417 Speaker 1: cartels run in Mexico and south of our border, and 344 00:21:04,617 --> 00:21:08,697 Speaker 1: then they use our porous border to run these drugs over, 345 00:21:08,817 --> 00:21:11,537 Speaker 1: whether it's in vehicles or on foot, they bring them 346 00:21:11,617 --> 00:21:15,657 Speaker 1: over and they are poisoning the American people. Here's a 347 00:21:15,777 --> 00:21:19,657 Speaker 1: graph that shows the rise in drug overdoses since twenty eleven. Okay, 348 00:21:19,737 --> 00:21:23,497 Speaker 1: this really puts it into real visual contrast for you. 349 00:21:23,857 --> 00:21:26,937 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, last year we have complete data, 350 00:21:27,217 --> 00:21:30,497 Speaker 1: we had one hundred and seven thousand drug overdoses. Over 351 00:21:30,657 --> 00:21:34,097 Speaker 1: seventy one thousand of those were from fentyal and synthetic opioids, 352 00:21:34,417 --> 00:21:38,457 Speaker 1: up from fifty seven thousand the year before in twenty twenty. Okay, 353 00:21:38,577 --> 00:21:41,777 Speaker 1: so over one hundred and seven thousand drug overdose. That's 354 00:21:41,777 --> 00:21:46,097 Speaker 1: a stunning number. It's outrageous. This should be considered a 355 00:21:46,297 --> 00:21:52,697 Speaker 1: true national security and national health emergency. But to deal 356 00:21:52,777 --> 00:21:55,617 Speaker 1: with the emergency, to look at the source and try 357 00:21:55,697 --> 00:21:59,377 Speaker 1: to stop it, you would have to deal with the porous, 358 00:21:59,697 --> 00:22:03,057 Speaker 1: so poorous southern border of the United States with Mexico. 359 00:22:03,857 --> 00:22:06,977 Speaker 1: You would have to have more resources for border patrol, 360 00:22:07,377 --> 00:22:12,977 Speaker 1: more drones doing surveillance, more assistance from National Guard. These 361 00:22:13,057 --> 00:22:15,257 Speaker 1: are the maneuvers that you would take. These are the 362 00:22:15,337 --> 00:22:20,057 Speaker 1: steps if the real goal here was to bring down 363 00:22:20,337 --> 00:22:22,817 Speaker 1: the flow of these illegal drugs in the United States. 364 00:22:23,297 --> 00:22:25,537 Speaker 1: There's a map that shows, by the way, how fentyl 365 00:22:25,537 --> 00:22:29,177 Speaker 1: actually flows into the US. High purity fentyl is illicitly 366 00:22:29,217 --> 00:22:32,057 Speaker 1: manufactured in China, as I said, sold through online markets 367 00:22:32,097 --> 00:22:35,977 Speaker 1: to Mexican cartels, and then the fentanyl is mixed with 368 00:22:36,137 --> 00:22:40,177 Speaker 1: other illicit drugs in Mexico, reducing the purity and pressed 369 00:22:40,217 --> 00:22:44,097 Speaker 1: into counterfeit prescription pills or mixed with heroin. It's then 370 00:22:44,177 --> 00:22:47,337 Speaker 1: smuggled over the border and sold on the street. So 371 00:22:48,097 --> 00:22:51,457 Speaker 1: that's also something that's very dangerous that the cartels do 372 00:22:51,657 --> 00:22:55,337 Speaker 1: with these already dangerous substances. They mark them as though 373 00:22:55,897 --> 00:22:59,817 Speaker 1: they are pharmaceutical gray drugs, because there are prescription opioids 374 00:22:59,897 --> 00:23:03,777 Speaker 1: that people take for pain predominantly, and they're very powerful 375 00:23:03,777 --> 00:23:05,777 Speaker 1: and they have to be used very sparingly because they're 376 00:23:05,817 --> 00:23:09,537 Speaker 1: so addictive. But people feel much safer taking a pill 377 00:23:09,657 --> 00:23:11,857 Speaker 1: that has mark as though it comes from a major 378 00:23:11,897 --> 00:23:14,737 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical company instead of something that was made in a 379 00:23:14,857 --> 00:23:17,937 Speaker 1: vat by the Mexican drug cartels who don't care how 380 00:23:18,017 --> 00:23:20,137 Speaker 1: many people die from the product as long as the 381 00:23:20,337 --> 00:23:24,657 Speaker 1: cash flow continues. And so that is the system, that 382 00:23:24,777 --> 00:23:26,337 Speaker 1: is the reality of what's going on right now. Just 383 00:23:26,577 --> 00:23:31,577 Speaker 1: last month, the DA made the biggest fentonnel bust in history, 384 00:23:32,017 --> 00:23:35,057 Speaker 1: seizing over a million pills in Inglewood, California, and the 385 00:23:35,137 --> 00:23:38,977 Speaker 1: pills were linked to the Sinaloa cartel. Okay, the pills 386 00:23:39,017 --> 00:23:43,577 Speaker 1: also had an estimated street value of fifteen to twenty 387 00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:47,857 Speaker 1: million dollars. All right, So that's just giving you a 388 00:23:47,937 --> 00:23:50,097 Speaker 1: sense of this the biggest bust they've had in history, 389 00:23:50,177 --> 00:23:54,697 Speaker 1: a million pills in Inglewood, California. Because the cartels know 390 00:23:54,937 --> 00:23:59,977 Speaker 1: it is easy right now to move that kind of volume. 391 00:24:00,497 --> 00:24:04,737 Speaker 1: They know that with the Biden administration not actually wanting 392 00:24:04,857 --> 00:24:08,217 Speaker 1: to clamp down on the border, not willing to take 393 00:24:08,297 --> 00:24:11,337 Speaker 1: the steps to make the entire border more secure to 394 00:24:11,537 --> 00:24:15,617 Speaker 1: tackle the lawlessness, and with all the border patrol assets 395 00:24:15,737 --> 00:24:20,097 Speaker 1: increasingly doing the humanitarian mission of saving people from drowning 396 00:24:20,297 --> 00:24:22,137 Speaker 1: or heat exposure who are trying to come over to 397 00:24:22,137 --> 00:24:24,617 Speaker 1: the end of the country illegally, dealing with people showing 398 00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:28,777 Speaker 1: up with serious medical conditions, mothers with babies that are 399 00:24:28,977 --> 00:24:32,417 Speaker 1: in desperate need of formula and food, And that's what 400 00:24:32,537 --> 00:24:35,937 Speaker 1: border patrol is doing. Well. When they're doing those critical things, 401 00:24:36,937 --> 00:24:38,817 Speaker 1: they can't which is not really supposed to be their 402 00:24:38,857 --> 00:24:42,737 Speaker 1: mission set, they can't actually be as focused on or 403 00:24:42,777 --> 00:24:46,697 Speaker 1: anywhere near as capable at the interdiction mission of stopping 404 00:24:46,737 --> 00:24:50,617 Speaker 1: the fentanyl from coming the United States and poisoning our people. 405 00:24:51,537 --> 00:24:54,857 Speaker 1: I mean, even the FBI director Chrispherrey back in June 406 00:24:55,297 --> 00:24:59,257 Speaker 1: said the drugs coming across our southern border are an epidemic. 407 00:24:59,377 --> 00:25:02,977 Speaker 1: Watch fist to say that I totally agree that the 408 00:25:03,497 --> 00:25:08,617 Speaker 1: drug issues related to the border are extremely significant. That fentyl. 409 00:25:09,497 --> 00:25:12,977 Speaker 1: The problem with fentyl fentyl coming into this country from elsewhere, 410 00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:18,137 Speaker 1: including from the Southwest border is something that I think 411 00:25:18,177 --> 00:25:24,977 Speaker 1: can fairly be described as an epidemic, and yeah, an epidemic. Yeah, 412 00:25:25,137 --> 00:25:29,057 Speaker 1: another epidemic, one that's taking lives of people all across 413 00:25:29,137 --> 00:25:34,697 Speaker 1: the country. And this needs urgent government action. But the 414 00:25:34,817 --> 00:25:39,217 Speaker 1: Democrats are focused on this problem. Some state governors, fortunately, 415 00:25:39,297 --> 00:25:41,777 Speaker 1: are stepping up. Governor Ron De Santis, for example, says 416 00:25:41,817 --> 00:25:45,737 Speaker 1: that the open border that allows for the massive importation 417 00:25:46,137 --> 00:25:49,337 Speaker 1: of these drugs is devastating for his state of Florida. 418 00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:52,977 Speaker 1: Wash fence and all overdoses in our state, we're seeing 419 00:25:53,097 --> 00:25:57,897 Speaker 1: more than we ever have. Fentanyl overdoses account for almost 420 00:25:57,937 --> 00:26:01,697 Speaker 1: seventy percent of all overdoses in the state of Florida, 421 00:26:02,017 --> 00:26:05,697 Speaker 1: and since twenty fifteen, fence and all related overdose deaths 422 00:26:05,737 --> 00:26:09,857 Speaker 1: have increased by almost eight hundred percent. This year, Brevard 423 00:26:10,057 --> 00:26:13,017 Speaker 1: Any Sheriff's Office, with the Central Florida High Intensity Drug 424 00:26:13,097 --> 00:26:17,377 Speaker 1: Trafficking Area Team has sees ten kilograms of fentanyl ten 425 00:26:17,537 --> 00:26:22,017 Speaker 1: kilograms of fentanyls, enough to kill five million Floridians. So 426 00:26:22,177 --> 00:26:24,257 Speaker 1: this is the same amount of fentanyl sees in this 427 00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:28,657 Speaker 1: region during all of twenty nineteen. So don't let anybody 428 00:26:28,817 --> 00:26:31,897 Speaker 1: tell you that that open border is not affecting our 429 00:26:31,977 --> 00:26:34,017 Speaker 1: communities here in the state of Florida. It is having 430 00:26:34,057 --> 00:26:38,457 Speaker 1: a devastating impact, torrible. What's going on? What's the Biden 431 00:26:38,457 --> 00:26:40,897 Speaker 1: administration doing about this? It is worth asking that question. Well, 432 00:26:41,177 --> 00:26:43,337 Speaker 1: the attitude of the Bid administration, as we've seen when 433 00:26:43,337 --> 00:26:46,617 Speaker 1: it comes to drugs in general, is make it easier 434 00:26:46,657 --> 00:26:49,497 Speaker 1: for people to do really dangerous illegal drugs. Don't let 435 00:26:49,617 --> 00:26:52,537 Speaker 1: law enforcement and crack down on this. Here's a man 436 00:26:52,617 --> 00:26:56,417 Speaker 1: in California showing off a government drug kid including heroin, needles, 437 00:26:56,697 --> 00:27:00,697 Speaker 1: meth and crack pipes. Watch so every Tuesday and Friday 438 00:27:02,697 --> 00:27:05,137 Speaker 1: that have a Catholic church that gives this stuff out. 439 00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:08,097 Speaker 1: This is where we live in at y'all. And this 440 00:27:08,257 --> 00:27:10,617 Speaker 1: is what the government's doing. Joe Biden say he's spent 441 00:27:10,737 --> 00:27:14,897 Speaker 1: six one million dollars or paraphernalia for drugs. And this 442 00:27:15,057 --> 00:27:19,337 Speaker 1: is what it looks like. It says being alive. This 443 00:27:19,537 --> 00:27:21,897 Speaker 1: is a meth pipe. Yep, right here with this bubble thing. 444 00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:23,817 Speaker 1: I guess you put the metho near. This is a 445 00:27:23,897 --> 00:27:27,257 Speaker 1: crack pipe. Yeah, okay. These are all instructions on how 446 00:27:27,297 --> 00:27:30,177 Speaker 1: to overdose treatment and education. These are this is the 447 00:27:30,297 --> 00:27:31,977 Speaker 1: needle in here I'm not going to open this sound. 448 00:27:32,457 --> 00:27:34,057 Speaker 1: That's what heroin, Yes for hero Win. It has an 449 00:27:34,057 --> 00:27:39,177 Speaker 1: alcohol past. And these things are like a black and 450 00:27:39,257 --> 00:27:41,337 Speaker 1: mouth filter that you put on the crack pipe so 451 00:27:41,417 --> 00:27:44,977 Speaker 1: you don't think no one's aliable, so you don't get sick. Yeah, 452 00:27:45,937 --> 00:27:48,297 Speaker 1: all right. Communities around the country are facing the consequences 453 00:27:48,297 --> 00:27:50,857 Speaker 1: of the Biden administrations failure at the border. Nobody knows 454 00:27:50,897 --> 00:27:52,657 Speaker 1: that better than men and women a border patrol. When 455 00:27:52,657 --> 00:27:54,377 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll speak the Vice President of the 456 00:27:54,457 --> 00:27:57,817 Speaker 1: National Border Patrol Council, Chris Cabrera, about what he's seeing 457 00:27:58,057 --> 00:28:07,417 Speaker 1: on the ground. 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It's 480 00:29:29,617 --> 00:29:33,097 Speaker 1: something that this sector has never seen before. Deliria Sector 481 00:29:33,137 --> 00:29:36,217 Speaker 1: Border Patrol Chief Jason Owens says some groups are exceeding 482 00:29:36,337 --> 00:29:40,097 Speaker 1: five hundred. Not since the Haitian migration in September have 483 00:29:40,217 --> 00:29:42,977 Speaker 1: we seen those type of daily numbers. We don't have 484 00:29:43,257 --> 00:29:45,617 Speaker 1: the organic resources available to us right now to deal 485 00:29:45,657 --> 00:29:49,377 Speaker 1: with the flow that we're grim. Assessment from US Customs 486 00:29:49,417 --> 00:29:53,817 Speaker 1: and Border Protection Chief Jason Owens, despite CBPS please for 487 00:29:53,897 --> 00:29:57,937 Speaker 1: additional resources. The Biden administration has provided little support for 488 00:29:58,017 --> 00:30:00,657 Speaker 1: agents who are clearly overwhelmed by the volume of illegal 489 00:30:00,697 --> 00:30:05,097 Speaker 1: immigrants crossing over the southern border. Meanwhile, DHS Secretary Alejandro 490 00:30:05,177 --> 00:30:08,337 Speaker 1: Majorcas appears to be in complete denial about the crisis. 491 00:30:08,457 --> 00:30:11,457 Speaker 1: Take a look just to question, do you think it's working? 492 00:30:13,817 --> 00:30:16,937 Speaker 1: I think that we are doing a good job. We 493 00:30:17,097 --> 00:30:22,217 Speaker 1: need to do better, right I mean now. Vice President 494 00:30:22,217 --> 00:30:25,617 Speaker 1: of the National Border Patrol Council, Chris Cabrera, Chris, thanks 495 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:28,817 Speaker 1: again for being with us, Thanks for having me. So 496 00:30:29,057 --> 00:30:31,137 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk back in June about the 497 00:30:31,257 --> 00:30:33,097 Speaker 1: end of Title forty two and how that could lead 498 00:30:33,137 --> 00:30:36,017 Speaker 1: to a surge in migrants. First off, where are we 499 00:30:36,217 --> 00:30:39,257 Speaker 1: with regard to Title forty two, And in terms of 500 00:30:39,377 --> 00:30:43,377 Speaker 1: the surge over the summer, what are the numbers shown us? Yeah, 501 00:30:43,417 --> 00:30:45,657 Speaker 1: you know, the numbers are up. I don't have in 502 00:30:45,777 --> 00:30:47,977 Speaker 1: front of me. I know they're they're continuing to climb. 503 00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:51,177 Speaker 1: I think we're hitting record numbers this month. I know 504 00:30:51,257 --> 00:30:54,897 Speaker 1: we did last month. I don't have no idea what 505 00:30:55,537 --> 00:30:59,497 Speaker 1: mister Minorcas is talking about. Apparently he doesn't either, you know, 506 00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:01,097 Speaker 1: I think he needs to spend a little bit of 507 00:31:01,177 --> 00:31:03,937 Speaker 1: time down here on the border and figure out what 508 00:31:04,057 --> 00:31:05,977 Speaker 1: his job is before he can do a better job. 509 00:31:07,297 --> 00:31:11,497 Speaker 1: He did admit this was interesting that CBP morale is down. 510 00:31:11,697 --> 00:31:15,297 Speaker 1: Watch this so, um, I will tell you the frustration 511 00:31:16,177 --> 00:31:19,257 Speaker 1: of the individuals, you know, with the badges on the 512 00:31:19,337 --> 00:31:23,417 Speaker 1: ground and the whole strip firearms is earned. Yeah, I 513 00:31:23,857 --> 00:31:25,817 Speaker 1: just we need to be very clear about that. In 514 00:31:25,857 --> 00:31:29,337 Speaker 1: our Border patrol agents. You know, their morale is down 515 00:31:29,417 --> 00:31:32,977 Speaker 1: and I understand why. Okay, he doesn't really say why 516 00:31:33,217 --> 00:31:36,617 Speaker 1: why is morale down? Well, I think morale is down 517 00:31:36,657 --> 00:31:39,137 Speaker 1: because who we have in that position. I mean, he's 518 00:31:39,177 --> 00:31:41,617 Speaker 1: not doing his job, He's not letting us do our job. 519 00:31:42,617 --> 00:31:44,617 Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of explaining to do, 520 00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:50,257 Speaker 1: especially to his agents and CDP officers. Um, you know 521 00:31:50,377 --> 00:31:51,897 Speaker 1: what he's going to do to fix it and actually 522 00:31:51,937 --> 00:31:54,697 Speaker 1: put a plan in place and actually fix it instead 523 00:31:54,777 --> 00:31:58,537 Speaker 1: of just um walking the comp towing the company line. 524 00:31:59,817 --> 00:32:02,977 Speaker 1: Is it more difficult would you say to recruit for 525 00:32:03,137 --> 00:32:05,097 Speaker 1: Border patrol these days? You know, we often see these 526 00:32:05,137 --> 00:32:08,497 Speaker 1: stories Chris about in the aftermath of the defund the 527 00:32:08,537 --> 00:32:11,337 Speaker 1: police movement, as well as spike in violent crime in 528 00:32:11,337 --> 00:32:14,857 Speaker 1: a lot of cities from these end mass incarceration policies, 529 00:32:14,857 --> 00:32:17,297 Speaker 1: it's harder to get the police. For say, in New 530 00:32:17,377 --> 00:32:20,137 Speaker 1: York City, they haven't gotten anywhere near the recruits they want. 531 00:32:20,457 --> 00:32:23,337 Speaker 1: Is Border Patrol facing any of those similar issues or 532 00:32:23,697 --> 00:32:26,217 Speaker 1: retention issues with keeping people on the job as a 533 00:32:26,297 --> 00:32:29,497 Speaker 1: result of all this that most definitely, I think everywhere 534 00:32:29,497 --> 00:32:33,457 Speaker 1: in law enforcement is feeling the strain, and with Border Patrol, 535 00:32:33,577 --> 00:32:36,497 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to get recruits normally when we're 536 00:32:36,537 --> 00:32:38,377 Speaker 1: allowed to do our job, and when we're not allowed 537 00:32:38,377 --> 00:32:41,297 Speaker 1: to do our job, it's almost impossible where we're losing 538 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,897 Speaker 1: people faster than we can hire. When agents are eligible 539 00:32:44,937 --> 00:32:49,377 Speaker 1: for retirement, they're gone the very first available minute that 540 00:32:49,497 --> 00:32:52,217 Speaker 1: they're they're able, they're gone. They're out the door, whether 541 00:32:52,337 --> 00:32:55,177 Speaker 1: to just retire or for greener pastures. We have young 542 00:32:55,257 --> 00:32:58,497 Speaker 1: agents that are applying to different agencies or leaving law 543 00:32:58,537 --> 00:33:03,297 Speaker 1: enforcement altogether. Based on what's going on right now. What 544 00:33:03,377 --> 00:33:05,897 Speaker 1: do you make of the Biden administration's recent decision to 545 00:33:06,217 --> 00:33:11,177 Speaker 1: finish some portions of the border wall in Arizona, Chris, Well, 546 00:33:11,257 --> 00:33:14,017 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a good thing that he's 547 00:33:14,057 --> 00:33:16,897 Speaker 1: he's finally getting around to doing that. But we've wasted 548 00:33:16,937 --> 00:33:20,577 Speaker 1: what almost two years by not doing anything. Um, there's 549 00:33:20,657 --> 00:33:26,137 Speaker 1: areas here in our local area responsibility where where we 550 00:33:26,257 --> 00:33:29,177 Speaker 1: have big gaps in the walls, big holes in the wall. 551 00:33:30,137 --> 00:33:32,537 Speaker 1: You know, it's about time he did something. But I 552 00:33:32,657 --> 00:33:34,497 Speaker 1: think he's been behind the eight ball on this. He's 553 00:33:34,617 --> 00:33:37,377 Speaker 1: way too far behind. You know, he's been paying people 554 00:33:37,457 --> 00:33:39,617 Speaker 1: to not work and then finish those walls, and now 555 00:33:39,697 --> 00:33:41,937 Speaker 1: he wants to get it done. And obviously it's a 556 00:33:42,017 --> 00:33:44,577 Speaker 1: political stunt. Who knows if he'll follow through with it. 557 00:33:44,697 --> 00:33:46,817 Speaker 1: He's he hasn't kept his word. I'm pretty much anything 558 00:33:46,857 --> 00:33:49,457 Speaker 1: so far. There's also a new report at The Daily 559 00:33:49,537 --> 00:33:53,737 Speaker 1: Caller that shows the number of illegal immigrants rescued by 560 00:33:53,857 --> 00:33:57,297 Speaker 1: Border patrol I Soordia record highs. From the piece, there 561 00:33:57,337 --> 00:33:59,777 Speaker 1: were eighteen thousand, eight hundred and eighty one illegal aliens 562 00:33:59,817 --> 00:34:02,457 Speaker 1: rescued and six hundred and fifty illegal alien debts between 563 00:34:02,497 --> 00:34:05,297 Speaker 1: October twenty twenty one in July, according to data the 564 00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:09,297 Speaker 1: Daily Caller News Foundation obtained from a DHS source. UM, 565 00:34:10,337 --> 00:34:12,057 Speaker 1: are you are you seeing that in your sector? Are 566 00:34:12,097 --> 00:34:14,377 Speaker 1: there are there far more rescues? I mean just because 567 00:34:14,417 --> 00:34:16,657 Speaker 1: the volume of people, but also it seems there's an 568 00:34:16,697 --> 00:34:20,137 Speaker 1: increased desperation to get in now while the policies are 569 00:34:20,177 --> 00:34:22,777 Speaker 1: as lax as they are. Yeah, you know, we're we're 570 00:34:22,777 --> 00:34:25,177 Speaker 1: seeing more people come and obviously with with more people, 571 00:34:25,217 --> 00:34:27,537 Speaker 1: they're going to be more people that that succumbed to 572 00:34:28,217 --> 00:34:32,657 Speaker 1: illness and injury, whether it be snake bides, dehydration and drownings. Um. 573 00:34:32,777 --> 00:34:35,857 Speaker 1: And and that drownings are not just in the river itself. 574 00:34:35,937 --> 00:34:38,937 Speaker 1: There's canals that they cross and uh, you know, small 575 00:34:39,017 --> 00:34:42,377 Speaker 1: ponds and um, we're seeing a big uptick in uh 576 00:34:43,377 --> 00:34:46,897 Speaker 1: deaths of migrants that that you know, not necessarily in custody, 577 00:34:46,937 --> 00:34:48,937 Speaker 1: but that we've come across that have already expired in 578 00:34:48,977 --> 00:34:52,417 Speaker 1: the brush. Not to mention the work our our agents 579 00:34:52,457 --> 00:34:55,937 Speaker 1: and our EMPs do rescuing people. And what can you 580 00:34:55,977 --> 00:35:01,177 Speaker 1: tell us about cartel activity and the financial benefit from 581 00:35:01,257 --> 00:35:03,737 Speaker 1: the to the cartels from from all of this human 582 00:35:03,777 --> 00:35:07,697 Speaker 1: trafficking and drug smuggling that's going on. You know with 583 00:35:07,977 --> 00:35:10,377 Speaker 1: the UH, as far as the cartel goes, I mean 584 00:35:10,457 --> 00:35:13,097 Speaker 1: for them, business is good. Business is booming right now. 585 00:35:13,817 --> 00:35:16,377 Speaker 1: Our drug seizures aren't nearly what they should be because 586 00:35:16,417 --> 00:35:20,897 Speaker 1: we're busy babysitting. So they know that they have high 587 00:35:21,017 --> 00:35:24,017 Speaker 1: value people that they need to move. They know where 588 00:35:24,057 --> 00:35:26,057 Speaker 1: and when to do it because we're not out there 589 00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:28,857 Speaker 1: in the field. We're stretched in all throughout the United States. 590 00:35:28,937 --> 00:35:32,097 Speaker 1: And then they're taking advantage and quite frankly, they're they're 591 00:35:32,137 --> 00:35:35,337 Speaker 1: doing a good job at it. And if you were 592 00:35:35,337 --> 00:35:38,177 Speaker 1: sitting in a room with the DHS Chief Mayorcas and 593 00:35:38,417 --> 00:35:41,537 Speaker 1: President Biden and they asked you, they said, you know 594 00:35:41,657 --> 00:35:45,377 Speaker 1: your your career board patrol agent, you understand this world, 595 00:35:45,457 --> 00:35:49,777 Speaker 1: you understand this mission set. What could we what could 596 00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:52,417 Speaker 1: they do to make your job and the job of 597 00:35:52,457 --> 00:35:54,537 Speaker 1: the men and women who are part of Border patrol, 598 00:35:54,577 --> 00:35:56,657 Speaker 1: who make up Border patrol. What could they need to 599 00:35:56,737 --> 00:35:58,817 Speaker 1: improve things? Because it doesn't feel like there's much of 600 00:35:58,857 --> 00:36:02,297 Speaker 1: that going on. Yeah, if you want to deter people 601 00:36:02,337 --> 00:36:05,817 Speaker 1: from coming, there's one tried and true method, and it's 602 00:36:05,857 --> 00:36:09,617 Speaker 1: a mandatory detention. Mandatory removal. Once people know that the 603 00:36:10,617 --> 00:36:13,337 Speaker 1: that the disfigured is closed, that they're not going to 604 00:36:13,377 --> 00:36:16,017 Speaker 1: be able just to come through and flood in the 605 00:36:16,097 --> 00:36:18,697 Speaker 1: United States, once they realize there will be consequences to 606 00:36:18,777 --> 00:36:22,537 Speaker 1: their actions, it'll stop. Unfortunately, I think these guys, just 607 00:36:23,497 --> 00:36:26,537 Speaker 1: for whatever political aspirations that they have, they don't want 608 00:36:26,537 --> 00:36:30,737 Speaker 1: it to stop. It's a remarkable set of circumstances. Is 609 00:36:30,777 --> 00:36:32,257 Speaker 1: this the worst the border has ever been? From a 610 00:36:32,297 --> 00:36:35,217 Speaker 1: law and order perspective, Chris, in your career, in my 611 00:36:35,337 --> 00:36:37,657 Speaker 1: twenty plus years, it's the worst I've seen it. I'd 612 00:36:37,697 --> 00:36:41,177 Speaker 1: venture to say it is probably the worst it's ever been. Unfortunately, 613 00:36:41,257 --> 00:36:43,057 Speaker 1: I don't think we hit the high water mark yet. 614 00:36:43,217 --> 00:36:46,017 Speaker 1: I think we still got a little bit left to go. Chriss. 615 00:36:46,177 --> 00:36:49,697 Speaker 1: Appreciate you bringing your expertise. Thanks so much. Thank you. 616 00:36:51,817 --> 00:36:53,937 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of this special edition 617 00:36:54,057 --> 00:37:03,097 Speaker 1: of Hold the Line right now. 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Now, 650 00:38:56,057 --> 00:38:58,057 Speaker 1: let's start with the cartels. What kind of activity are 651 00:38:58,137 --> 00:39:01,497 Speaker 1: we seeing with the border de facto open right now? 652 00:39:01,577 --> 00:39:06,737 Speaker 1: Which is the truth? Well, the three or four major 653 00:39:06,977 --> 00:39:12,897 Speaker 1: cartels that control the plaza or the Mexican side, the 654 00:39:13,257 --> 00:39:18,137 Speaker 1: major crossing areas are just cashing in. Really, we nobody 655 00:39:18,217 --> 00:39:21,257 Speaker 1: knows how much it is. It's almost impossible to tell, 656 00:39:22,257 --> 00:39:25,977 Speaker 1: but there there is no doubt but that the that 657 00:39:26,137 --> 00:39:32,297 Speaker 1: the revenue center has shifted from drugs to human beings 658 00:39:32,857 --> 00:39:37,057 Speaker 1: in especially southern Texas, and it's in the billions and 659 00:39:37,177 --> 00:39:39,857 Speaker 1: billions of dollars if you just do the math, you know, 660 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:43,137 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars for a Central American, you know, 661 00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:48,097 Speaker 1: seven thousand for a Chinese, ten thousand for somebody from 662 00:39:48,137 --> 00:39:51,337 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and thousands and thousands. The numbers are, 663 00:39:51,417 --> 00:39:54,537 Speaker 1: it's going to be in the billions of dollars for 664 00:39:54,617 --> 00:39:59,057 Speaker 1: the cartels. And you know that has a terribly destabilizing 665 00:39:59,537 --> 00:40:04,177 Speaker 1: long term impact on the Mexican state. And then we 666 00:40:04,457 --> 00:40:09,377 Speaker 1: also have you know, good old fashioned drug trafficking fentanyl 667 00:40:09,537 --> 00:40:14,057 Speaker 1: and cane and marijuana that we believe is coming over 668 00:40:14,257 --> 00:40:18,897 Speaker 1: in higher volumes now than ever before because border patrol 669 00:40:19,457 --> 00:40:26,217 Speaker 1: agents are off the line doing paperwork and processing these 670 00:40:26,337 --> 00:40:30,377 Speaker 1: family units that are being allowed in by the Biden administrations, 671 00:40:30,497 --> 00:40:33,137 Speaker 1: taking up all their time. They're off the line, not 672 00:40:33,377 --> 00:40:36,617 Speaker 1: very many, not much of a defense there anymore, and 673 00:40:36,977 --> 00:40:40,257 Speaker 1: the cartels are taking huge advantage of this, and they're 674 00:40:40,337 --> 00:40:46,137 Speaker 1: using tactics. For example, they're doing what we call Bonzai runs, 675 00:40:46,217 --> 00:40:50,497 Speaker 1: where they'll take you one hundred or two hundred immigrants 676 00:40:50,537 --> 00:40:53,337 Speaker 1: and they'll push them over all at once, and every 677 00:40:53,457 --> 00:40:57,057 Speaker 1: border patrol agent in for forty miles has to come 678 00:40:57,137 --> 00:41:00,737 Speaker 1: into process them, and they're moving the cocaine through that 679 00:41:00,857 --> 00:41:05,177 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Also, on the issue of cartel violence, 680 00:41:05,817 --> 00:41:07,777 Speaker 1: is there a lot of that happening? I mean, I 681 00:41:07,817 --> 00:41:12,377 Speaker 1: remember reading about a decade ago about what felt like 682 00:41:12,497 --> 00:41:16,577 Speaker 1: unimaginable violence going on on the Mexican side. Is that 683 00:41:16,737 --> 00:41:19,457 Speaker 1: happening We're not hearing about it. And also is there 684 00:41:19,457 --> 00:41:25,177 Speaker 1: any violence that's spilling over from the cartels into border states? Well, yes, 685 00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:29,057 Speaker 1: you know, there's always there are always killings and murders 686 00:41:29,177 --> 00:41:34,337 Speaker 1: on our side, there are you know, vengeance killings, and 687 00:41:34,777 --> 00:41:39,457 Speaker 1: there is violence and intimidation that happens all the time. 688 00:41:39,537 --> 00:41:43,577 Speaker 1: On the Mexican side, I would not say that it's 689 00:41:43,937 --> 00:41:46,977 Speaker 1: it's worse than the period that you're talking about two 690 00:41:47,017 --> 00:41:50,817 Speaker 1: thousand and six to two thousand and nine saw maybe 691 00:41:50,897 --> 00:41:56,537 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand Mexicans killed, because people are fat and happy. 692 00:41:56,657 --> 00:42:00,657 Speaker 1: Right now. There is enough to go around for everybody 693 00:42:02,497 --> 00:42:04,857 Speaker 1: meeting the cartels like they're making so much money, they're 694 00:42:04,897 --> 00:42:07,937 Speaker 1: not even spending the time fighting wars against themselves in 695 00:42:07,977 --> 00:42:11,337 Speaker 1: the government that they used to. Oh absolutely, and then 696 00:42:11,497 --> 00:42:15,537 Speaker 1: on top of that, you have a central government obador 697 00:42:16,177 --> 00:42:24,377 Speaker 1: who's mantra about hugs not bullets, which is official government 698 00:42:24,497 --> 00:42:28,137 Speaker 1: policy of Mexico, So that the federalllis and the military 699 00:42:28,617 --> 00:42:33,217 Speaker 1: are leaving them alone. Everybody's getting rich. And when the 700 00:42:33,497 --> 00:42:38,857 Speaker 1: central government is not running raids and putting pressure, they're 701 00:42:38,897 --> 00:42:41,817 Speaker 1: not pushing back and fighting back and battling each other. 702 00:42:42,817 --> 00:42:45,097 Speaker 1: So it kind of goes like that. It's not like 703 00:42:45,297 --> 00:42:47,657 Speaker 1: it was in two thousand and six to two thousand 704 00:42:47,697 --> 00:42:50,577 Speaker 1: and nine. What can you tell us about the forty 705 00:42:50,577 --> 00:42:54,697 Speaker 1: two suspected terrorists who are encountered in twenty twenty one 706 00:42:55,057 --> 00:43:00,897 Speaker 1: at the border right, Well, when you have millions of 707 00:43:01,057 --> 00:43:05,577 Speaker 1: people hitting the border like you have now, our normal processes, 708 00:43:05,817 --> 00:43:10,857 Speaker 1: our systems for regulating in bringing people in are just 709 00:43:11,257 --> 00:43:16,377 Speaker 1: off the rails. Nothing is normal now. Everything is stopped 710 00:43:16,937 --> 00:43:21,537 Speaker 1: or warped or halted or you know, messed up. Nothing's 711 00:43:21,577 --> 00:43:26,217 Speaker 1: working in the right way. And so we have processes 712 00:43:26,297 --> 00:43:32,137 Speaker 1: in place to accept migrants who are on the federal 713 00:43:32,537 --> 00:43:37,457 Speaker 1: FBI terror watch list, many across the border who are 714 00:43:37,457 --> 00:43:39,937 Speaker 1: already on that watch list, and when we run their names, 715 00:43:39,977 --> 00:43:43,577 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do ABC and D with them. But 716 00:43:43,737 --> 00:43:48,017 Speaker 1: there's evidence that we're not doing those things under this crisis. 717 00:43:49,057 --> 00:43:56,657 Speaker 1: And a good example would be the the Venezuelan Lebanon 718 00:43:56,777 --> 00:44:00,817 Speaker 1: born Venezuela who's Venezuelan, who swam over from Matta Morris 719 00:44:01,497 --> 00:44:04,297 Speaker 1: late last year. They ran him on the watch that 720 00:44:04,377 --> 00:44:08,897 Speaker 1: he was on the watch list. He was considered substantial 721 00:44:09,297 --> 00:44:16,177 Speaker 1: risk and and a high derogatory intelligence substantial derogatory intelligence 722 00:44:16,257 --> 00:44:19,857 Speaker 1: on him, and they were he was ordered to let 723 00:44:19,937 --> 00:44:24,217 Speaker 1: him go and they freedom. Normally they would interrogate the 724 00:44:24,297 --> 00:44:27,097 Speaker 1: heck out of somebody like that, keep him in custody, 725 00:44:27,137 --> 00:44:29,297 Speaker 1: and then deport him back to wherever he came from 726 00:44:29,377 --> 00:44:33,937 Speaker 1: or wherever they could, and ICE headquarters ordered him released. 727 00:44:34,057 --> 00:44:37,697 Speaker 1: Why because he was overweight and at risk of catching 728 00:44:37,817 --> 00:44:41,097 Speaker 1: COVID and detention, and we don't do detention anymore in America. 729 00:44:41,817 --> 00:44:45,057 Speaker 1: So that guy's running around free in Detroit pursuing an 730 00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:48,057 Speaker 1: asylum plane. There was also a lot of understand it 731 00:44:48,137 --> 00:44:51,137 Speaker 1: todd to smuggle jihadis over the border that was spoiled 732 00:44:51,137 --> 00:44:54,097 Speaker 1: and may this one the BBC and Islamic State sympathizer 733 00:44:54,177 --> 00:44:57,177 Speaker 1: planning to murder former US President George W. Bush, But 734 00:44:57,217 --> 00:45:00,577 Speaker 1: the plot was discovered by the FBI. According to US authorities, 735 00:45:00,617 --> 00:45:02,857 Speaker 1: the suspect of resident of Ohio allegedly sought to have 736 00:45:02,937 --> 00:45:06,777 Speaker 1: a rocky operative smuggled into the US from Mexico for 737 00:45:06,897 --> 00:45:13,737 Speaker 1: this operation. That's right now, that was an FBI sting operation, 738 00:45:13,897 --> 00:45:17,777 Speaker 1: But operatives that he was planning to bring over were real, 739 00:45:18,537 --> 00:45:24,897 Speaker 1: and the Qatar based mastermind of the operation was real too, 740 00:45:25,057 --> 00:45:28,377 Speaker 1: So this was a real operation. They were going to 741 00:45:28,497 --> 00:45:33,257 Speaker 1: murder George Bush. They were going to They had some 742 00:45:33,377 --> 00:45:36,297 Speaker 1: other plans and attacks as well. But what this shows 743 00:45:36,417 --> 00:45:39,657 Speaker 1: us is that the bad guys are very well aware 744 00:45:39,777 --> 00:45:42,937 Speaker 1: that the border is in utter chaos. They know it, 745 00:45:43,457 --> 00:45:46,497 Speaker 1: and they are planning to use it. We know that, 746 00:45:47,297 --> 00:45:50,097 Speaker 1: we know that because of this one bad guy. If 747 00:45:50,377 --> 00:45:52,657 Speaker 1: one bad guy and all of his friends from here 748 00:45:52,697 --> 00:45:55,737 Speaker 1: to Qatar know about this, you can pretty much bet 749 00:45:56,177 --> 00:45:59,177 Speaker 1: that everybody else in the jihadi world knows about it 750 00:45:59,297 --> 00:46:02,457 Speaker 1: as well. Big big risks here, Todd, thanks so much 751 00:46:02,497 --> 00:46:05,257 Speaker 1: for being one of us. Appreciate the expertise. Good to 752 00:46:05,297 --> 00:46:08,177 Speaker 1: be here, Thanks for having me. That's all the time 753 00:46:08,217 --> 00:46:09,977 Speaker 1: we have for this special edition of Hold a Lot. 754 00:46:10,097 --> 00:46:12,577 Speaker 1: I'd like to thank my guests are Arthur, Chris Cabrera 755 00:46:12,657 --> 00:46:15,657 Speaker 1: and Todd Benzman for joining us. The No Spinows with 756 00:46:15,857 --> 00:46:17,737 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly is next. Shield's High