1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Life advice from the world of philosophy is portrayed by Dimwitz. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: It's one more thing I'm strong Andy. I guess I 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: should have said at dim Wit, because I'll be reading 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: it Joe might be able to portray it in a 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: fully lit way, not a dimly lit way. Dimwit will. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: I came across this Twitter thread the other day. I 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: don't even know if it's accurate, but it's this guy 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Tim Denning who had just started following on Twitter, and 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of life advice from different quarters, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: and he's very judgmental about it, but I agreed with 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: most of it. Anyway. He's picking on Carl Jung spelled 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: with a J j U n G, the uh psychologist, psychiatrist, 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: philosopher dude from the early twentieth century. And I'll go 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: through some of these through the thread and we'll see. 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I think there are the opportunities for conversation here. Some 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: quotes from him, thinking is difficult, that's why most people judge. 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't even I'm not sure I even know what 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: that means. But it goes on to say, where your 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: fear is, there is your task. 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Huh. 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And again I would like to know more and the 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: explanation of this from this person, This is why the 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: work life balance and self care movements help people become losers. 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Discomfort is where the opportunity is. Find what you fear 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: and look it in the eyes. Otherwise you become mediocre 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and the rewards are terrible. Yeah. 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: I have a fair amount of sympathy to that point 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: of view, partly because I've read I need to keep 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: reading about it. But about stoicism, one of my favorite 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: books is called The Obstacle is the Way, meaning that 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: obstacles are not supposed to be there. That's exactly what's 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: going to happen. Of course, it is embrace the obstacle, 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: don't act surprised, and don't cower in front of it. 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: That's what was supposed to happen. 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: And so yeah, yeah, the idea that well as he 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: expressed it, I think there's a lot of truth to that. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: I like the That's why the work life balance self 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: care movements help people become losers. Discomfort is where your 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: opportunity is. Of course, that's a fairly judgmental way to 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: put it. Most people I know who use the term 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: self care are way over the top, self indulgent, people. Yeah, 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: just in my personal experience. 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: At the same time, though, to poo pooh work life 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: balance I think is a mistake. Oh of course, it 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: depends entirely on your circumstances. But you know, killing yourself 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: to make a few more bucks for a corporation who cares? 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: That is true. But again, the people I here use 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: it the most are people who don't work very hard. 49 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: It's just like people I've known who say a work 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: hard and play hard, really really play hard and don't 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: work That just in my experience most of the time. Yeah, right, 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: So the concepts aren't wrong, it's just that the people 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: that tend to use the conceptsuse them. I loved him. 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: I loved the concept of self care until it started 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: getting overused. 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah it became sense. Yeah, you got it. You got 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: to include yourself and the whole list. But again, most 58 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: people I know who use it are really self indulgent people. 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah here's another one for you. I spend quality time 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: with my kids. Right, Yeah, that's somebody who doesn't spend 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: much time. 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: At all with their kids. Yeah, that's exactly right. Man. 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Seinfeld had some good stuff about that his most recent 64 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: podcast tour, where he was I wish we'd had him on. 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: He was like on every podcast in America for an 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: hour and a half. He is, at age seventy, really 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: willing to speak his mind about a lot of things, 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: and he had a lot of opinions about because he 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: didn't become a parent too late like me. He was 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: even older than me. I was forty five. I think 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: he was forty eight. Uh. But anyway, he talked a 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: lot about that. No, no, no, that it's it's the 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: sitting there in front of the TV. You're both eating 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a bowl of cereal. Those are the unbelievable moments you 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: have with your kids. It's just the being there and 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the time and everything. Anyway, I didn't want to get 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: off on that track. Here's some more from the guy 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh on that same topic. How to apply it, figure 79 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: out what you fear, set challenges to face the fear, 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: and as you face more fears, your confidence increases. I 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: don't doubt that that's true. After you go through a 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: certain number of obstacles, it becomes less daunting. 83 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: The world will add This is another one from Carl Jung. 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: This is a pretty good one. The world will ask 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: you who you are and if you do not know, 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: the world will tell you that's true. Oh okay, yeah, 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: whether you're a I don't know, back to being parent, 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: whether you're a good parent, hard worker, whatever, the world 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: will the world will let you know at some point 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: in your life what you were where you were on 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: on those topics. 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a tough one because I grew up 94 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: in a family where there was a fair amount of 95 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: discussion of what our principles are and what, you know, 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: what it's like to live a principled life as opposed 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: to not a principled life. And I suppose if you're 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: in a situation and you don't need to be told 99 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: that verbally, you can see it as a kid, I mean, 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: what you observe is so much more powerful than what 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: you're told. But if you grew up in a culture 102 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: of family without real principles, it'd be tougher to develop 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: him on your own, no doubt, and then the world 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: will tell you who you are. 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm guessing with a dad as a judge KT who 106 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of God principles and guidance, Yes, quite 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: a bit. 108 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: Did he ever at the dinner table hold you in 109 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: contempt all the time? 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: Still does did he regularly? Did he ever, like you know, 111 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: something's gone haywire in high school and he says, we 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: need to talk. I'll be right back, And then he 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: goes and he puts on the robe and he comes back. 114 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: That would have been hilarious if he did. I wish 115 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: he did that. Are you kidding me? 116 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: When I was getting in trouble, I was my room 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: was at the top of the stairs. And my sign 118 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: that I was just absolutely in deep. You know what 119 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 3: was his sound of his feet coming up the stairs. 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: Boy, Oh, I am so screwed. I picture him in 121 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: the living room saying, please approach the easy chair. 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: I'd picture him bringing the gavel to the dinner table. 123 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's exactly this meal is over. Bang bang. 124 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: My favorite thing on his desk was something. It was 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: a It was a grenade. It was a metal grenade, 126 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: and it said complaint desk, Please pull a number, as 127 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: if you were pulling the pin out of a grenade. 128 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: Got it. 129 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: I got one more of these and then we'll call 130 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: her good. This is very, very long. We could do 131 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: these for an hour. But the word happy would lose 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: its meaning if it were not balanced by sadness. That's 133 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: another Carl Jung, saying the word happy would lose its 134 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: meaning if it were not bounced by sentence. That's obviously true. 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Christopher Hitchins wrote in his book when he was dying 136 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: of cancer that you know, if we were all immortal, 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: everything would lose its meaning. Nothing would be special. So 138 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: you know the fact that there's an end date makes 139 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: gives meaning to an awful lot of things. Anyway, on 140 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: this head so heavy, it is heavy. Uh. The word 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: happy with lose its meaning if it were not bounced 142 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: by sadness. This guy interpreting it said, darkness is a superpower. 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Rock bottom is where you find your potential. Dark times 144 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: lead to amazing comebacks. 145 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Sure. 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes my experience is all those things, all these things 147 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: are so much easier to believe in when you're not 148 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: in that situation. Oh yeah, it's easy when things are 149 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: going well, or to tell somebody else. 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you react to failure. 151 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: That is the key, and then all that And that's 152 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: all true. It's just that when you're in it, in 153 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the failure, it's not as easy to absorb. 154 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Which is why you internalize thoughts like that before you're there. 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: I just write him down on a piece of paper 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: and then I get in a jam. I'm like that, 157 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: and I think I know I wrote it down somewhere. 158 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 2: It's pot where's my jam bucket, my bucketed jam thoughts 159 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: there it is? Don't give up, come back to your 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: wonder Oh right, right, right. 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: Right, right, right right. This is the true test of 162 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: who you are. Okay, good. 163 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: Could you imagine feeling like you're at rock bottom and 164 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: somebody going, you know what rock bottom is? 165 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Where you find your potential? Oh? Shut up? Yeah, that's 166 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of the old do you want to be helped 167 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: her hugged? 168 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 169 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: And then the famous Shakespeare thing from uh, I don't 170 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: remember which one it's from King Lear. I believe this 171 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: is not the worst of it, as long as we 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: are here to say this is the worst of it. 173 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: In other words, until you're dead. Yeah, it can always 174 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: get worse. 175 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you think this is rock bottom uplifting, Well, 176 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: I guess that's it.