1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. When we talk about NBA superstars, we normally 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: don't mention Jimmy Butler. But over the last five years, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Butler's averaged more than twenty two points just once. We 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: don't talk about Jimmy Butler during the regular season. But 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: scoring isn't the only education of a great player, because 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: he's a great two way player, an elite defender, and 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to big games, he delivers. So far 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: in the postseason, he's averaged just under thirty points per game, 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: two and alf steals per game. Last night, no different 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: led the Heat to the win. He had forty one. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: And when we talk about stars, you're going to talk 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: about Lebron or Luca Greek freak, and rightfully so, Jason Tatum. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Butler has done this before. It's just he's had a 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: weird career where he was I think the last pick 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: of the first round by the Bulls. He also played 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: for the Sixers, he also played for Minnesota, and now 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: he's with the Miami Heat. I don't know how many 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: future Hall of Famers played for four teams over the 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: first ten years of their career. I think that's probably 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: the numbers there for Jimmy Butler, but he has that 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: mentality that you won. It's playoff basketball. You know. We 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: talked about Rajon Rondo playoff Rondo. There are certain players, 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller in the postseason. Tim Duncan was great in 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: the postseason. I mean he was very good during the 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: regular season. Tim Duncan always stepped his game up. And 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: I have a crazy stat about that. I'll give that 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: to you coming up. But it feels like every year, 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: at least one time we say the following man that 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is really good in the postseason, right, we 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: always bring it up. We don't mention his name until May, 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: and then he has a game and we go, gosh, 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: he's really good or he really cares. I just don't think. 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's easy to play with because 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: he expects you to be great. He expects you to 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: play hard. When he got to Minnesota, probably looked at 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: those kids and said, do you guys care? I mean, 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: come on, let's go. There's a fire out there, let's go. 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: And then the Sixers famously took Tobias Harris and gave 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: up on Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler has a chip on 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: his shoulder, and you could understand it because, oh, you 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: didn't get drafted high in the first round by the Bulls. Oh, 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: you're kind of an interesting story there. And then he 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: bounced around to a couple of teams and now he's 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: with the Miami Heat, but had a big game last 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: night as the Boston Celtics. You don't have Marcus Smart, 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: you don't have Al Horford. Like, if I'm Boston, I 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: don't feel bad about this. Now I have Miami against 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: Golden State in the finals and said that at the 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: start of the season. But if I'm Boston, I'm like, Okay, 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: we've been in this situation before. Now you got to 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: get Marcus Smart back. Al Horford. He's in safety protocol 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: right now. Don't know exactly when he'll be back, probably 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Game three at best. Marcus Smart, all right, you got 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: blown out. Third quarter was the big difference here. Miami 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: has been a great third quarter team, and you made 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: it interesting at least for them. But I wouldn't feel 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: like all is lost or the sky is falling. You know. 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: People talked about this game was so important for Boston. No, 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: it was really important for Miami. If you would lose 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: to a Boston team without Marcus Smart now Horford at home, 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. But Jason Tatum played well, not 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: well enough in the second half, but Boston lost to 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Game one. They've been here before. I wouldn't panic. 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go seven games. And Miami had 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: a good night last night. As I mentioned with Reggie 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Miller yesterday, I think Tyler Herrow is really the key 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat. If he plays well and he 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: gets twenty points a night, now you have enough firepower 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: to stay with the Boston Celtics. Tyler Hero played well 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: last night. He had eighteen, but Jimmy Butler goes for 72 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: forty one and Miami takes a one lead. Yes, eaton. 73 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: It's funny to me that there's like the criticism of 74 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is that he expects his teammates to be great. Yeah, like, 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, he's the kind of guy that, like, he 76 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: expects his teammates to play great, He expects his teammates 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: to play hard. You know, he wants to win. He's 78 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: one of those guys. But those are all supposed to 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: be good things. Why for Jimmy Butler. Are they a negative. Well, 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to stay with Minnesota when 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: he saw those young kids didn't really care or didn't 82 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: give the effort that he wanted Philadelphia, they chose to 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: Bias Harris instead of Jimmy Butler. Now with Miami, you know, 84 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: he demands a lot out of those players, and rightfully so, yeah, 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I know. Here's Jimmy Butler after the win last night. 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: I speak for my teammates and the Miami he organization. 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Whenever I say I know what I'm capable of and 88 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do this to score forty points. 89 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: I play the way that I play to win by 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: all means necessary. And it just so happened that I 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: score forty. But I score forty and moves. I'm gonna 92 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: be really pissed off. Okay, he's fun to watch. He's intense, 93 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: and you need to have that. There's certain players that 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: they just dial it up, and they dial it up 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: when you need them the most. So Jimmy Butler has 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: increased his scoring in the postseason over the regular season 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: average six times. That doesn't compare to Tim Duncan. Tim 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Duncan has the most all time, increasing his scoring average 99 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: from the regular season to the postseason fourteen postseason fourteen 100 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: times in his career he had averaged more during the 101 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: postseason they did during the regular season. But Jimmy Butler 102 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: an impressive start to that series. And then you have 103 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: tonight it's Luca and Steph Curry. By the way, DraftKings 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: has both players going over thirty five points. Could you 105 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: see both both players? I should say going over thirty 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: five points. I can with Luca, I think he needs to. 107 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know about Steph Curry, but DraftKings has that 108 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: as the over under thirty five and a half points. 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: I guess the lottery last night won by the Orlando Magic. 110 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: And then you start to think, Okay, there's not that 111 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: uh you know, transcendent player. There's no Zion, there's no Shack, 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: There's no I mean, you can run down the list. 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard, you got you know a couple of guys 114 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: who played a couple of years in college. Chet Holmgren, 115 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: his high school teammate Jalen Suggs, is with the Orlando Magic, 116 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: So maybe you would partner those two together. I think 117 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: they won three straight championships in high school. Chet went 118 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: to Gonzaga after Jalen went to Orlando. You got a 119 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: couple other players that are interesting. Jalen Smith at Auburn, 120 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Paolo Bench Bench Arrow at Duke Jaden Ivy. But I'm 121 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: guessing if I'm Orlando, I see I don't buy into 122 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: this way. You got to take a big guy. No, 123 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: you don't, or you got big guys, don't take take 124 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the best player. That's what today's NBA is all about. 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: You can really get in trouble when you go, hmm, 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: that guy's probably really good, but we need a big guy. 127 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Let's don't do that. There are guys who are bigs, 128 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: but they don't play big. And I like Chad Holmgren, 129 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know what he's going to be like 130 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: right away. And as the number one overall pick, you 131 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: put that pressure on him. Although being in a the 132 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Orlando market will help him considerably, but it would really 133 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: help Orlando maybe to get a little bit of a boost. 134 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: They're one of the worst teams as far as attendance. 135 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: They're really kind of faceless. That would give you, you know, 136 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: a name and a face there somebody to come out 137 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: and see. And that's what they need, but Orlando wins. 138 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: Jamari Smith might be well. Him and ben Chero probably 139 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: the two guys ready to play right now. But Homegren 140 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: feels like we love potential. There are times when you 141 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: go that guy could be really good. It's the guy 142 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: right in front of you. You go, no, he is 143 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, but we like potential. Yeah, Seton, I'm 144 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: not sure anybody really won the NBA draft, just like, 145 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Hey Orlando, congratulations, you get the first pick in one 146 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: of like the weakest drafts we've seen in a while. 147 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: And hey, chat Homegren, you're probably gonna go to number 148 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: one to Orlando. That's kind of a lose lose, Yeah, 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: no offense. But if you're chat Homegren, you get to 150 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: be reunited with your high school teammate. That's not bad. 151 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean that feels like a win for him. You 152 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: go number one. They all want to go number one overall. 153 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: I'd say if chat Homegren goes number one to Orlando, 154 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, Paul, you're going to Siberia though, Yea, 155 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: your games aren't on TV more. There's more Gonzaga games 156 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: on national TV than Orlando Magic. No, that's not a 157 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: true in any way. I know, And also the topic 158 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: of the NBA Draft can't be named Chet. Guy's named 159 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Chet historically don't play basketball that well. He seems good, 160 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: but I'm like, who Chet comes to the court. I'm like, 161 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my chops, Chet Walker for the Bulls. 162 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: That's well, that's one more than you thought. Chet the 163 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Jet Chester Walker. You can't call him Chet the Jet 164 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: Homegroun because he's not really found. He's just tall. Yes time, 165 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: And Kenny Smith is the jet How many jet nicknames 166 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: do you? Yeah, but Kenny was the jet after you know, 167 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Chet the Jet Walker. Yeah, that's that's that I have 168 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: a problem with too. I think once someone gets the nickname, 169 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: that's the one person that gets it. Yeah, that's a 170 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: good point by Fritzie Ladanian. Tomlinson is a fantastic happens 171 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: He is not lt. LT is Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, Tom Terrific. 172 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Remember Tom Brady tried to siphon Tom Terrific as a nickname. 173 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: That's Tom Seaver. So it's over Johnny. Yeah, it's like 174 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Tom didn't think anybody would remember Tom sever the siphon. Yeah, 175 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean no, that's the right word. Yeah, it feels 176 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: like a dastard. He stole it. He was trying to 177 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: steal it. Is that there at the gas tank of 178 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: the Tom Terrific nickname? Yeah, Tom Siever's gas tank and 179 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: he's siphoning off Terrific out of there. Thomlinson should have 180 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: his own thing. He was a great player. Well what 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: would you call the Danian Tomlinson? I don't know, but 182 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, can you call him the Great Dane? Let's 183 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: say we're in a room and I said, holy cow, 184 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: LT's here? What name? How about l D? Yeah? Yeah, ld? 185 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: LT kind of man? Why why does LT like? Yes? 186 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: But LD's like me? All right, coach? Who is the 187 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Great Dane? There? There has to be somebody whose nickname 188 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: is the Great Dane? Ron Dame? Oh well, good pole, Marv, 189 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: all right, the great Day. There might have been a 190 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Great Dane before, or maybe somebody who's actually Danish would 191 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: have been the Great Dane. Famous Danish NFL players, no, no, no, 192 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: just famous athletes. It could be a Great Dane who 193 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: is a biathlete there the University of Albany. They're the 194 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: great Great Danes. Yeah, well we'll work on chet Homegren. Yes, Tom, 195 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking here. The Great Dan is a nickname which 196 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: may refer to Morton Anderson Danish American Blue Blue. We 197 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: gotta come up. Does Chet Homegren have a nickname Chets 198 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: his first name? It's not like Chester. I think it's 199 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: just chet Chet Thomas Holme Homegren third, Yesh, Yes, it's 200 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: not Chet, sir. It wouldn't be It wouldn't be Chetter. 201 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: I think Chester. I think I say Chetster. Yeah no, no, no, 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to squeeze it in like that would be 203 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: his formal name. No. My point is that if his 204 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: name was Chester and you shortened it, it would be Chess. Right, 205 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: he said Chet and his name is Chet, right, So 206 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Chet isn't People aren't people named Chester? Aren't they called Chet? 207 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Charlie are called Chatz? Yes, Todd another possible, Great Dan 208 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Peter bolis Law Schmickel is a Danish 209 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: former pro footballer who played as a goalkeeper. Okay, there 210 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: you go, the great Dame Peter Schmeichel, the old Schmick. 211 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: We do have to find out if Chet is short 212 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: for Chester. I think it is. Marvin said it is. 213 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: That's a confirmation. That's a fact, Marvin, no stuff. Yeah, 214 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: but you were trying to take Chet and Chester and 215 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: go Chetster. I didn't say Chetster, No, I said, right, 216 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: because chet Lemon, the great White stock Chester Earl Lemon. 217 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: This says chet is a masculine given name, often a 218 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: nickname for Chester. Oh okay, I thought PAULI was trying 219 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: to but they do horned Chetster. I've got his birth 220 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: certificate here and it's just chet holmegrin, just chat. This 221 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: program brought to you by Discovered, Discovered matches all the 222 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: cashbak you've heard at the end of your first year, 223 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: Discover exceptionally common sense, learn more, Discover dot com, slash 224 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: match limitation supply. That's why when people go you script 225 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: this show. There is no way in the world that 226 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: we would script this show, And if we did, we 227 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done what we just did. We certainly would 228 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: have interjected the Fritzie's Great Dane comment there in the 229 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: middle of the bit. We were all, yeah, hard left. Yes, 230 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: we would have taken that out of the script. Yes 231 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: we would. Now Chester mcclocktin would done a lot less 232 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: scary if he was just Chet mclockton. Can we agree 233 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: with that? It's take a break. Tim Legler from the 234 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Mother's Ship on what we saw last night and what 235 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: he expects tonight with the Western Conference Finals. Thanks for 236 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 237 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 238 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 239 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 240 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 241 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or 242 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock Act. If I were 243 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: a star college basketball player, I would least like to 244 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: be drafted by Orlando Houston, Sacramento or the Knicks or 245 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: other Let me start with Tim Legler with that question, 246 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: the ESPN NBA analyst and then one of the great 247 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: shooters in NBA history. Hate to go negative to start 248 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: out your legs, but would you rather be the team 249 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: that you would least likely to be drafted by or 250 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: want to be drafted by? Orlando Houston, Sacramento or the Knicks? 251 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I would say the Kings. I didn't take long to 252 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: get that answered. I just think, you know, I just think, 253 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: look at the track record of the organization and the 254 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: track record of guys that they've dropped drafted at the 255 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: top of the lottery. I mean number one, they don't 256 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: seem to really develop there, and two, they don't seem 257 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: to stay there very long. So if I were a 258 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: top pick, rather than maybe have a few wasted years 259 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: at the beginning of my career, maybe you'd be better 260 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: off in a healthier organization because they just they've had 261 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: a very difficult time getting anything right. We would look 262 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: at draft sometimes and you wouldn't take the best player. 263 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: You would take the player that you thought was best 264 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: for you and teams mate. You know, the draft is 265 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: littered with teams who made these mistakes where you go, 266 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: we gotta go get a big guy. Wait, but Michael 267 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's Nope, you gotta go after a big guy there. 268 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: But I wonder about today's NBA. Chat Homegren is a 269 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: big guy, but he's not that prototypical big guy down low. 270 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at Orlando, would you buy into 271 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: chat Homegren with the limited sample size we saw at Gonzaga, Yeah, 272 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: I would. I've seen him play enough to look at 273 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: the skill set there. Dan, I mean, this guy's a 274 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: special talent. Now, obviously that body type has got to 275 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: change a little bit, But you know, you look Kevin 276 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: Durant coming out, I know the different players, and Kevin 277 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Durant's one of the greatest scorers this league's ever seen, 278 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: so that's not necessarily a comparison. But what I'm saying 279 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: is the body type Kevin Durant never really did develop. 280 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: He clearly got stronger to play through contact than he 281 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: did when in his first few years in the league 282 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: he could ride his hip and knock him off balance 283 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: and he was an inefficient player early on, and he 284 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: was able to get stronger functionally to play through it. 285 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Chad Holmgren absolutely needs to add some weight, some bulk, 286 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: some strength, But when you look at him handle the 287 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: ball in the open floor, and you look at his 288 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: vision and passing ability and his ability to step out 289 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: and shoot, and probably for me, the real differentiating factor 290 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: would be the ground this guy covers defensively. I mean, 291 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: he is an elite level weak side defender at what's 292 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: probably going to end up being a small forward position. 293 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: This is one of the best rim protecting small forwards 294 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: we've ever seen him come into this league with the 295 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: ground he covers in his instincts for being there at 296 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: the right time. So you add all that up, I think, 297 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: ched Hog, it's gonna take it's gonna take some time. 298 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: You gotta be patient because the guy can't weigh more 299 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: than one hundred eighty pounds. I'd be shocked if he 300 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: weighs more than that. You're gonna have to develop that body. 301 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: But the skill set man's special. I like how he's 302 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: a seven footer and we're talking about him being a 303 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: small forward. We got to get rid of these labels legs. 304 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: I talked about this yesterday. Nobody is mentioning Lebron James 305 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: is the greatest point guard of all time or second 306 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: to Magic. Like we when we talk point guards and 307 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: be like, well, you gotta put Chris Paul and you 308 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: got Couzy and Nash and Stockton, and why why isn't 309 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: Lebron the greatest point guard? Or Luca? Right now? He's 310 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: a point guard? But we don't, you know, we don't. 311 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: We don't call them that. Why you're dead one. We don't. 312 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: And I'm as guilty as anybody. I should do it 313 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: because I've been referring to Lebron James as a point 314 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: guard for a decade. I mean, that's really what he is. 315 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Let's be honest about it. The guy initiates every possession 316 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: when he's on the floor. Well, this isn't that with 317 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: a point guard the way we used to know it. 318 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: You know what that means, lead guard, point guard, whatever 319 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: you want to call it, Luca Dodts is the same thing. 320 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: You're on d percent, right. We just we don't because 321 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: of the size of these players and they're just not 322 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: prototypical what we think that's supposed to look like. But 323 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: there's no question and right now in today's game, there 324 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: is not a player in the league that controls possessions 325 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: to a greater extent than Luca Dodge and not, to me, 326 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: is the essence of what a point guard is. We'll 327 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: talk about that series coming up at a moment. Talking 328 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: to Tim Leger leg Lair, ESPN NBA analyst, there's certain 329 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: players who get to the postseason and become different players. 330 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: I know that you you know Michael Jordan and you 331 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: know some of these players. But like Reggie Miller was 332 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: a different player in the postseason, Jimmy Butler, Tim Duncan, 333 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: different player in the postseason. What is it about those 334 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: players that it's just bigger the game, the bigger the 335 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: moment for them, the bigger the performance. Yeah, I completely 336 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: agree with those guys and Jimmy Bather's fascinating because to me, 337 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's such an incredible leap that he takes 338 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: in terms of his focus and his competitiveness. Almost I've 339 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: described him often as the greatest boring player I've ever 340 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: watched in my life, right because he doesn't do any 341 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: of the stuff that wollow us. He's a guy that's 342 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: going to operate mainly in the mid range area of 343 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: the floor. He's gonna get to the line a lot. 344 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: That's not exactly exciting. I mean, d D's up when 345 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: it's this time of the year, but he's not doing 346 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: those things that are the eye candy that we love 347 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: to watch like some of these other great players in 348 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: the league are. He's so methodical about it. But clearly, 349 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: and Eric Spolster alluded to this last night, there's something 350 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: about got certain guys that they really only get the 351 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: hair on their neck up when something's dramatic is on 352 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: the line, and that's the case obviously in the postseason. 353 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: And he was spectacular last night, and he completely took 354 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: over that game in the third quarter, really on both 355 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: ends of the floor, and gave them a on o 356 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: lead in a series I picked Boston to win, but 357 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: of course I didn't know. Horford and Smart we're going 358 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: to be out, So we'll see how it goes. Now, 359 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: those guys don't play in Game two and they go 360 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: down two oh beating the teams that's that well coached, 361 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: that's that good defensively, four out of five is going 362 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: to be tough, a tall order for Boston. I had 363 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: to laugh that your fellow ESPN or Jay Williams said that, 364 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, we have slighted the Miami Heat, and I 365 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: wanted to say to Jay, your network slighted the Miami 366 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: Heat because you guys spent an entire year talking about 367 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Brooklyn Nets Miami Heat. We're the 368 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: best team record why lies in the East. But there's 369 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: no drama there, There's no clickbait there. I mean, that's 370 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: how we cover sports now where you go. We probably 371 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: talked more about the Lakers now and they've been out 372 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: of the postseason than we have been the Miami Heat 373 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: in the postseason. No, it's a great call, you know. 374 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: And when they made the changes in the offseason, I 375 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: thought the Miami Heat had a great chance to get 376 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: to the finals because they added Pja talker Kyle. Al Right, 377 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: so all that playoff experience of Lowry, the toughest of PJ. 378 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: Tucker likes things that they needed. But here's why. When 379 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: you look at the other teams that we're talking about 380 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: all the time in the East, it's because of what 381 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: I just said. They've got the eye candy players. They've 382 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: got Giannis, they've got Embid and Harden, they've got Durant 383 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: and Kyrie, they've got Jason Tatum. Nobody on Miami really 384 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: looks like that. Even though Jimmy Butler is a great player, 385 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: bam Adebayo is an All Star, one of the best 386 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: defensive centers in the league, one of the most versatile 387 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: big guys in the league. They don't do the things 388 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: that tantalize us, that make us want to talk about 389 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: them every night. So instead, and I think Eric spols 390 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: is perfectly fine with that, let's just show up every day, 391 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: be professional about what we do, end up with the 392 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: number one seed, and be incredibly difficult to operate against 393 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: in those moments. And that's exactly what they did last night. 394 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: It was very impressive the way they turned it up 395 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: against them. Coming out of the locker room. I'm curious gamesmanship, 396 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: the game of verbal ping pong with Luca and Draymond 397 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Green verbal verbal bouquets. Right now, everybody you know Draymond 398 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite players. Love the way plays. 399 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Luca's unbelievable, He's unstoppable. How long does this last him? 400 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: I would say probably within the first eight seconds of 401 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: the game. There's going to be so sort of of 402 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: a verbal back and for the first time, Luca, you know, goes, 403 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: goes into the lane and tries to back somebody down 404 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: and throws his arms into somebody gets a call. Draymond 405 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: will immediately start in and at no point over the 406 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: next six or seven games, however long it lasts, well, 407 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: Draymond stopped talking about what lucas doing advice first, you know, 408 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: this is going to be fascinating because there is a 409 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: there is a whole other layer to Luca that has 410 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: to just drive players insane. And it's the constant smiling, 411 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: the grinning, the look on his face of man, I'm 412 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: not having fun out here in God is this easy? 413 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: And I mean, what what drives a think about it? Dan? 414 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the other day when he was 415 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: doing it to Booker right in that game, and it 416 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: started off he was doing it, by the way, not 417 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: when they were up forty. He hit his first two 418 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: threes of the game, and he was grinning like that. 419 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: He knew something right that nobody else knew in that moment, 420 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: which is I am in a great place right now mentally, 421 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: and I am by far the best player on the floor. 422 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be just fine. But I was thinking, imagine 423 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: anything you did competitively in your life, right You go 424 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: play golf with three of your buddies, and every shot 425 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: a guy hits for four hours, he's laughing and you 426 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: know you can't beat him. Or you're in a boxing 427 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: match and the guy's tuning you up and then steps 428 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: back between jabs. It just grins at you, like what 429 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: could get under your skin more? And that's what Luca 430 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: is doing to people right now. And it's gonna get chippy, physical, 431 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: whatever however you want to describe it. The bottom line 432 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: is I don't think anybody is capable of getting this 433 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: guy off his game. He to pace, he plays with 434 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: his physical strength, the way he anticipates what's coming his way. 435 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's affected by anything that's in 436 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: front of him. He is so unique and so fascinating 437 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: because of it, It would bother me more if a 438 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: guy just grinned as opposed to smack talk, like like oh, 439 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: I agree right, like that that's gonna hurt when you laugh. 440 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: You're you're laughing at me. Like if you want to 441 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: go back and forth and we exchange words, that's one thing. 442 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: But when you're just laughing, you don't have to say 443 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: a word. Oh man, because Booker is just he's not 444 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: even making eye contact. He's just staring straight ahead, and 445 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Lukea is like looking up at him like, hey, you 446 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: know you mad bro. It's just that picture is I mean? 447 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: That picture? It did made me laugh out loud, just 448 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: because the nature of he's looking up like he literally, 449 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: if I could put a thought bubble on Luca Dot 450 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: at that moment, it looked like he was saying, it's 451 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, little buddy, You'll be all right, You'll 452 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: get you'll get under drop don't or he keep trying 453 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: and then if he makes one, literally he's at the 454 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: point almost where in that game he was gonna be 455 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: like he just go right. See it's fun making shots. 456 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: When it goes in, it's a lot more fun like, 457 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: I just can't think of anything more going. At one 458 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: point he went to in there he got hit converted 459 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: and literally was smiling and it took his hands and 460 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: kind of like rubbed his hands through his hair like 461 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: a model, and I'm going, what is happening out here? 462 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: And so look and look he is. He is special. Obviously, 463 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: Obviously this guy is something else man. And I think 464 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: dan Or halfway through his rookie year, I described him 465 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: in this way, Larry Bird is my favorite athlete of 466 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: all time, and I said, this guy kind of reminds 467 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: me of Bird, but with a better handle and a 468 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: quicker first step. To think about that combination, that's kind 469 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: of what we have. He's got the nerve, he's got 470 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: the you know, he's not as as pure as shooter 471 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: his Bird, but in some ways more lethal because he 472 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: can bring together shots from deep, you know, off the 473 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: dribble that Larry really didn't do. And so for me, 474 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: the IQ, obviously, the passing ability. He's incredible. And that's 475 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: why I think Dallas has a legitimate shot in the series. 476 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm picking Golden State to win the series, but this 477 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: is not going to be easy. Yeah, I've mentioned this before. 478 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: There's certain players and I liken them to if we 479 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: were going to attach music to their game, it's jazz. 480 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: There's a jazz feel to Kawhi Leonard that he just 481 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: moves at his own pace. And the same with Luca. 482 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: In a sport where athleticism is always on display with speed, 483 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: being able to jump quickness, they get to where they 484 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: need to go. You know where they're going to go, 485 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: but you can't stop them. It's just one of those 486 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: weird dynamics about basketball that I don't know if you 487 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: can explain certain players being able to do it in 488 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: a certain way at their own speed. Yeah. Completely. And 489 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've watched some of the guys guarding him 490 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: right now, and you look at Michael Bridges, he was 491 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: runner up for Defensive Player of the Year. The guy's 492 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: got you know, it's a seven two Wings fan, he's 493 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: six eight. He's committed to it, and he had no 494 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: he had no ability physically to dictate anything to Luca Donjons. 495 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: Like the great defensive players in this league. Typically, the 496 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: reason that we talk about him in that day, Dan 497 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: is because they dictate terms to a certain extent. Now, look, 498 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have great players make shots on guys, but 499 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: over the course of forty eight minutes, they are dictating 500 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: what they're going to allow you to do because they're 501 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: that strong, they're that quick, they're that relentless. And Bridges 502 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: wasn't able to really do any of that to Luca 503 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: Donjas And look, Jamond Green is not going to get 504 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: a ton of him. He'll get him on some switches. 505 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: This is going to be more about Clay Thompson and 506 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins than anything else because they got the size, length, strength. 507 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: But when you watch what Lucas about to do to 508 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: those guys, he hits him with that shoulder on the 509 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: back down, he knocks you backwards and then he spins 510 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: away to get to that fade away. Just not a 511 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: lot you can do it if you want to run 512 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: somebody at him. Okay, here comes Doria Fitny Smanneth and 513 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: Bullock and Jalen Brunson and Burt Tom's and all these 514 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: guys Kleiba and they can make eighteen threes in a game. 515 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: That's why it's gonna be fascinating to me. And the 516 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: number one thing I'm looking for tonight is what not 517 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: the initial coverage? What does Steve Kurd do as the 518 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: game progresses. As the series progresses, to mix up coverages 519 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: on him because you cannot give him a steady dose 520 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: of anything in one game, because that's the formula for 521 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: disaster for Golden State. Always great to catch up with 522 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: your legs. Thanks for joining us anytime, David. It's Tim 523 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Legler ESPN NBA analyst knows a thing or two about shooting. 524 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 525 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 526 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 527 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 528 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app my check. 529 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: If you want exclusive insight from the biggest names in 530 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: the sports game. What's good? This is national champion and 531 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: former pro baller Chris Johnson. 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Send 542 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: a note to Rich Learner or the host. I said, 543 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: Brad Faxon's killing it. It's doing great. Rich Larner goes, 544 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: I know, so I said to Fritzie, reach out and 545 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: see if Bratt will join us. He's working for the 546 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: Golf Channel during live from the PGA Championship Monday through 547 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday seven to nine Eastern, also working for Sky Sports. 548 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Just to give you a little backdrop, he won on 549 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: tour I think eight times, played on two Ryder Cup teams, 550 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: and Brad joins us. Now, Brad, how are you doing great? Dan? 551 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me honest as a real honor. Do 552 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: you ever get mistaken for Tony Hawk the skateboarder? That's 553 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: the funniest question. Yes. I was actually in one of 554 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: his stores in California and some guy came up to 555 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: me and he was kind of walking in circles and 556 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: I thought he recognized me as a golfer, and he goes, hey, 557 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: this is pretty cool you're in here, And I'm like well, 558 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: there's not many golfers that skateboard. He goes, Oh, no, no, 559 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: I know who you really are. It's cool that you 560 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: just hang out your own store. It's pretty funny. Do 561 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: you skateboard? Not at all? Oh? All right? The storyline 562 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: at the PGA Championship is what. There's tremendous amounts of storylines. 563 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest one was a week ago when 564 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Phil Nicholson, the defending champion, withdrew. We covered a lot 565 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: of that on Monday Live from like you mentioned, with 566 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: rich Lerner and Randall Shambley. But what's the reason why, Brad. 567 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why Phil withdrew after saying that he 568 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: was going to play well, I'm not sure that he 569 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: ever said he was going to play Dan. He actually 570 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: committed to play in the event, and the pH Championships 571 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: a little bit different than most of the PGA Tour events. 572 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: The PGA Tour events require players to enter or withdraw 573 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: by Friday before the tournament. The PJA Championship entry form 574 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: his way earlier and a month ago, I think he 575 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: was undecided. He talked to the PJA of America's CEO, 576 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: Seth Waw and just I think his Handlers did and 577 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: said he's not ready to play yet. I think Alan 578 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: Schipnook's debut with his book that came out yesterday, and 579 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: the troubling news that Billy Walters is going to come 580 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: out with another book I think is trying to has 581 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: kind of kept Phil at bay. Yeah, I'm just I'm 582 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: trying to understand what choice Phil has in this. Did 583 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: he did he have the choice to go to Augusta 584 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: or not go? Did he have the choice if he 585 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the PGA Championship or not in Europe, 586 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: the Master's organization or the tournament committee there At Augusta, 587 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: it's a national It's different than the PGA of America, 588 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: different than the PGA Tour. My sources say that he 589 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: was requested that to keep his troubles at home and 590 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: not come there and make that a distraction. I can't 591 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: confirm that with certainty, but I've had a number of 592 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: people tell me that, So I think that Phil's really 593 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: trying to get his life back together. Yeah, this other 594 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: book that's going to come out, I mean, the Alan 595 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: Ship book is one thing. The other book, from what 596 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: I hear, it's gonna be pretty damaging for Phil. I 597 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to be damning for Phil, and maybe 598 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: tell us a few things we don't know. Billy Walters 599 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: went to prison really for the insider trading and the 600 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy Deane sausage case, and Phil was involved with that. 601 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: He paid back close to a million dollars and I 602 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: think Billy felt like if Phil had testified or had 603 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: come before, he might have saved some time for Billy Walters. 604 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: Um Tiger's demeanor, how would you explain this, this demeanor 605 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: with the media that happened. It feels like overnight. It 606 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: does feel like overnight. That's the first thing I was 607 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: going to say, Dan. I mean after his accident, he 608 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: spent a year four hundred and six days we know 609 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: before after the act. It's like Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicholas, 610 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: when when they got really beyond the competitive years, they 611 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: started being um, I think a little bit more emotional. 612 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: When they played at Augusta National, they were celebrated by 613 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: the fans, they are the patrons, and I think for 614 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: the first time in Tiger's life, he showed something that 615 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: emotion while he was still on the course, while he 616 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: was competing. And I think, you know, when you look 617 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: at this generation of the great players now like Rory 618 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: mcloy and Jordan Speed through Tiger will play with tomorrow 619 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: morning when a t off here in Tulsa, I think 620 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: eight eleven central time. Tiger has been a mentor to 621 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: those players now. He's invited them to play practice rounds 622 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: with him when he might have done that alone. I 623 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: know Rory and Tiger and practice together back at Jupiter, 624 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: and he's, you know, going to be a Ryder Cup 625 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: captain when it gets to beth Page in a few years. 626 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: And I think Tiger has really kind of embraced that 627 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: a little bit like Arnold and Jack did before him. 628 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: We're talking to Brad faxon he's working for Golf Channel. 629 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Eight times. I got that right, eight times on the 630 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. Yes, yes, that's right, I got you. Best 631 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: finish in a major was fifth at the PJA Championship. 632 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: That's correct, yep, I did that in nineteen ninety five. 633 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: I never did well in the US Open. I played 634 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: here in the PGA. Nick Price won in nineteen ninety four, 635 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: played in the US Open here. This is some some course. 636 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: You've got golf clubs behind you, You've got what what 637 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: do you have putters. I have plotters. I'm a Scottie 638 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: Cameron guy, as you probably know. But I'm going to 639 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: do a couple of pieces for the Golf Channel for 640 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: later on tonight, and I have to hit some chips 641 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: and pots because this is a really damn this course, 642 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: and you're a golf fan, I know when the players 643 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: are going to miss a green this week. The course 644 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: was renovated by Gill Hanson, one of the best architects 645 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: in the world right now. And when the players missed, 646 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: the ball is going to run away from the green. 647 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: It's going to go down these short mon areas, tightly 648 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: mown areas, fairway height, and players are going to really 649 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: have a hard time potting up these hills because it's 650 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: it's fairway height. It's not like tightly moon are like 651 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: some fringes are. So the chipping is going to be 652 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: a real important part this week. And I think that 653 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: players are really confident with the short game, and you 654 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: see these players in practice and all the shots around 655 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: the green. I really want to show the spectators what 656 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: it's like, the viewers, what it's like around these greens. 657 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: How difficult to do, but it's it like Pinehurst number two, 658 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: where you have those greens that are crowned and then 659 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: they just roll at the crowned And there's areas on 660 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: almost every green where if you miss it short or 661 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: to the side, it couldn't run off a long way 662 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty yards. But unlike at Piners, where the 663 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: fairway cut around the greens is so tight, where it's 664 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: easy to just pick out potter and run it. Or 665 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: some players like to use a hybrid, I think you're 666 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: going to see a lot more players having to use 667 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: a lofted club. And it seems like chipping has become 668 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: an epidemic worse than COVID around here. I don't mean it. 669 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: It's weird to be covering a golf event or watching 670 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: the coverage and you talk about Tiger and we're talking 671 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: about Tiger walking. We're not talking about a swing. We're 672 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: talking about the comfort level sort of the course topography here. 673 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: What is different about Tiger this tournament as opposed to Augusta. 674 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a few things. First of all, Augusta Nashville, 675 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: maybe the most hilleous course, has the most topography of 676 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: any course we play all year long. It's not flat here, 677 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: unsulso there is some topography here, but there's two big differences. 678 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: First of all, it's six weeks from the Masters, so 679 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: he's been able to progress and get stronger. We saw 680 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: a definite fatigue with Tiger on the weekend and augustin Nashville. 681 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: I think it was a miracle for a couple of things. 682 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: First of all, miracle that Tiger played the miracle that 683 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 1: he smoked his first tea shot down the middle there, 684 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: that he shot a good first round, that he made 685 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: the cut, he grinded to make the cut, and then 686 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: he finished seventy two holes that we might have thought, 687 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, four hundred and seven days earlier, that he'd 688 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: never played golf again. Now we're talking talking about him 689 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: winning a sixteenth major championship. He's practicing a lot back 690 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: home at the Medalist where he does, and he's been 691 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: walking those rounds, so he's fitter. You look at his 692 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: upper body now, he looks like he could play linebacker 693 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: on any team. He's incredible. And one of the things 694 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: we showed last night then is his increase in swing speed. 695 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that players always look 696 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: at his swing speed with the driver in particular, and 697 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 1: then the driver to the ball speed. At his ball 698 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: speed since he first came back to playing the son 699 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: Charlie at the PNC Father Child Tournament, is he really 700 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: has increased his swing speed at his ball speed. And 701 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: if you looked at the tracers from his practice yes esterday, 702 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: his driver is going so so straight. I think he's 703 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: really going to contend. And interestingly, in two thousand and 704 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: seven when he won the last round, he only hit 705 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: three drivers because he was so afraid to hit driver. 706 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: And now he's really confident with the driver. So I 707 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: think you're going to see it a Tiger Woods. It's 708 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: really going to be able to be in contention this week. 709 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: You've got a favorite John Daily story? I have a few. 710 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: I went to a restaurant in New York City. Oh 711 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: this is seven eight years ago with all my family, 712 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: all my kids and I went to a restaurant and 713 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: they had a drink on the menu called the John Daily. 714 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: And I asked the John. The waiter who to me? 715 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: And this is maybe biased if he didn't look like 716 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: a golfer, this waiter, let me just put this. I said, 717 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: who's John Daly? And he goes, he's a fat retired 718 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: golfer and I laughed. I thought that was a funny, 719 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: coming like you're laughing. That's what I did. My mistake 720 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: was I tweeted that and I thought it was funny. 721 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh and I got a call from the tour and 722 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: John was very upset. And I had a nice relationship 723 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: with John, but he had told me his fans were 724 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: upset that I did that. It was probably a mistake 725 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: because you know, when you hear something and you laugh, 726 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound the same in print. But that was 727 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: a pretty bad move a car. I learned a lot then, 728 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you. I hope you haven't fun. 729 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: It certainly looks like it, and I've enjoyed the insight 730 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: on a golf channel. Well, Dan, I am having fun. 731 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: I will tell you one thing that rich Lerner and 732 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: Brandell Shambley are the most prepared two golf analysts in 733 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: the game, without a doubt. Rich writes all of his openings, 734 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: everything that he says on camera, he does himself. And 735 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: there's nobody with a mind in the golf world like 736 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 1: Brandy Shambley. He's got a brain like a steel trap. 737 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: He remembers everything, everything, And I'm happy to sit next 738 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: to them, and I love talking about golf. I've been 739 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: doing a whole life, my whole life. Thank you, safe travels. 740 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again, Brad. Great to see 741 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: I love listening to you. Thanks. That's Brad Faction PGA 742 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: Golfer time one eight times on tour. Yeah, Paul. Now 743 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people have said this before on social media. 744 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: Brad facts and if you google him, you'll see the 745 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: picture on a scale of one to ten. How much 746 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: does he look like he'd be Tony Hawk's slightly older brother? Ten? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 747 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: that's a ten. Yeah, slightly older brother, that's a ten. 748 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: I remember playing golf with Brad and Rhode Island with 749 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: Billy Andrei and they had a a charity event and 750 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: I remember, you know when you play with a pro, 751 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: like it's one thing you play with a really good player, 752 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: and then you play with the pro and then you go, 753 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, like you think you could hit it 754 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: as far as they do, or you hit shots and 755 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: you go ah about that, you know, then they rattle 756 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: one off of the stick and you know it. Brad 757 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: Faxon's one of the great putters ever. Guys come to him. 758 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: I think Rory asking for some help with putting, Yes, 759 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: he is it, and I think you just hit on it. Actually, 760 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: what I was gonna ask, but is it more noticeable 761 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: in one area of the game, like off the tea 762 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: or is the big differentiator between a pro and then 763 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: somebody who thinks they're good putting that kind of thing. 764 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: Is it just more noticeable in one area? I think 765 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: the sound of the ball when they hit a drive, 766 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: when you go, oh wow, that sounds different. Because I 767 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: played with Justin Leonard, and Justin Leonard, I think, had 768 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: just won the British Open, and I remember being in 769 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: Downson playing around to golf. Now, I hit it further 770 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: than Justin Leonard did, and I was feeling pretty cocky, 771 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: and I remember that he was like one hundred and 772 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: fifty yards out and he knocked it like within two feet. 773 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: He goes, That's that's where I make my money. It 774 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: was just it was so subtle, because you know, I'm 775 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: probably out driving him by ten yards fifteen yards, and 776 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm going, all okay, mister British Uben. And then he 777 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: got up there and added one hundred and fifty yards out. 778 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: I think it hit an eight iron like two feet away, goes, 779 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: That's that's where I make my money. I go okay. 780 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: I meanwhile I limp home with it, you know, with 781 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: a bogey man, he has a birdie, And it was 782 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: just the difference. The difference is when they need to 783 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: their window of opportunity is really small. It's like a 784 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: hula hoop with me, just get it on the green. 785 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: But that that ability to be able to dial it in. Uh. 786 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: And the sound that they make when they swing, because 787 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: they're swinging one hundred and twenty miles an hour. Yeah. 788 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: I remember we did something a long time ago with 789 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: a really good golfer named rich Beam, remember being he 790 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: was probably what about five six, No, he's probably a 791 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: little taller. He'll say he's five eight one fifty. Yeah, 792 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: but I remember watching the club. It was making that 793 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: whipping sound and he would hit the ball three m jargy, like, 794 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: how can that small person do that? You can be 795 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: around these guys like Charles Howel the third looks like 796 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: he's about six foot one fifty. Uh. Will Zalaturus looks 797 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: like he weighs about one hundred and fifty pounds. But 798 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,479 Speaker 1: they crush it. And it's all about the angles and 799 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: how you use the ground and you just generate all 800 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: that clubhead speed. That's the difference, Like when you're around 801 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson and you go, wow, that's that's fast, and 802 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: he's got so much arc on his swing. Davis Love. 803 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: I remember we were on the same tea in a 804 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: celebrity event and I hit mine and I thought, I 805 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: hit it, you know, well, probably two seventy five something 806 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: like that. And then he got up there and made 807 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: it look so easy and probably hit it three thirty. 808 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 1: And I went, I said, what's the difference. He goes, 809 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm professional and you're not. I go, okay, thank you, 810 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: Davis