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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson and Matt um. Well. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot to uh, a lot to clean up there after

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Speaker 1: what was a disappointing law us on on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was. The outcome wasn't shocking.

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Speaker 1: I mean Cleveland could win that football game, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the way it happened at the beginning of the game

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers handing the game away is what it was.

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Speaker 1: Shocking play. I mean how poorly they played, the mistakes

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Speaker 1: they made over and over was blew me away. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember see anything like it. Yeah, when you dig

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Speaker 1: yourself a twenty eight nothing whole um, you know in

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Speaker 1: the in the first quarter, Um, you're not gonna win

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Speaker 1: the game. I mean your minus five and turnover differential.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's amazing that it wasn't sixty, you know

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Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah right, I mean the Steelers moved

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Speaker 1: to football. I mean they did some good things. Ben

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Speaker 1: throws for over five yards. It's not the way you

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Speaker 1: drew it up. I mean, I'm looking at the positives here.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot upon a lot um. But I

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Speaker 1: think Tomlins said this in the postgame press conference. When

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Speaker 1: you give them that lead, it just makes their life

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Speaker 1: so much easier. You play right, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: was asked to my live questions on the d K

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Speaker 1: Sports dot Com dk Pittsburgh Sports dot Com. I should say, um,

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Speaker 1: what are the similarities between this game and the in

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Speaker 1: the game against UH Jacksonville the last two playoff losses.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't dig that kind you can't put

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Speaker 1: yourself in that kind of hole against a team that

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Speaker 1: wants to run the football. There's obviously that similarity and

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Speaker 1: their playoff caliber playoff this is, this is not These

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Speaker 1: are not bad football teams. But you can't hand you

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Speaker 1: can't you know, if that's if you drop you fall behind. UH.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the Buffalo for example. UM, they don't try

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Speaker 1: to run the football. They're not running seventy two minutes

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Speaker 1: of clock off of off of you you know, because

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Speaker 1: you know, and there was there was. I kept seeing

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Speaker 1: they got dominated on both sides of the line. I

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Speaker 1: didn't see that. I saw him. I saw the Browns

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Speaker 1: be able to play the way that they wanted to play,

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Speaker 1: which led to them being They didn't run the ball

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Speaker 1: very well in the second half. To quite they had

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Speaker 1: fourteen carries for twenty four yards. I mean, amazingly, there's

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Speaker 1: many points they put up. They ran for like twenty

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Speaker 1: yards or something like that. I looked at fourteen carries

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Speaker 1: for twenty four yards in the second half. So the

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Speaker 1: Steelers were stopping the run. The problem was because Cleveland

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Speaker 1: was ahead, they could they could do what they want

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Speaker 1: to do. They could run play action, they could you know,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield didn't have to make any high difficulty throws

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Speaker 1: and if and if they punted, they were okay with that.

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Speaker 1: They didn't mind punting at all. Yeah, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: just didn't want to turn to football, get a first down,

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Speaker 1: eat four or five minutes punted great, you know. And

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Speaker 1: the key is, and you basically said to said a

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Speaker 1: nut show, is they put themselves into a position where

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Speaker 1: they have no excuse for making a mistake. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's different if you're third, there was no margin for air.

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Speaker 1: Once you're down nothing. I mean, I mean the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: I know the didn't get any sacks, but I don't

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Speaker 1: blame the pass rush for that loss. They didn't really

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Speaker 1: get a chance to rush the passer because, to the

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Speaker 1: Browns credit, they understood the flow of the game. Why

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Speaker 1: would we do that? I mean, that's what that's what

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Speaker 1: we probably fear most from this team, is their pass

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Speaker 1: right right. Why are we going to put them in

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Speaker 1: a position? There were there were some situations there. If

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Speaker 1: the Steelers get a sack in that second half, we're worse. Worse.

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Speaker 1: They forced you know, they forced Baker Mayfield into a

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Speaker 1: mistake that changes the complexion of the game. Absolutely, that's

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Speaker 1: what they needed at that point, and they were desperate

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, I'm blame but yourself to me?

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Speaker 1: Uh and I you know I said at the time,

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Speaker 1: and I still I stand by it. When Mike Tomlin punted,

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with some motion and those kind of things. Um,

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Speaker 1: but they were at their own forty six. They punted

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Speaker 1: deep on that the ball trickled into the end zone

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Speaker 1: and kicked back out. I mean, it was it was

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Speaker 1: very close if that punt is down inside the five,

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Speaker 1: it's a different I mean, the Browns got one first

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Speaker 1: They then went three and out and used like a

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Speaker 1: minute of the clock. Momentum. The momentum shifted. If you

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Speaker 1: and if you're inside, if the Browns are inside their

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Speaker 1: own five, they're not throwing the ball there, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: but the ball skips into the end zone a little

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Speaker 1: by by half a yard and kicks back out. If

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Speaker 1: that ball is one yard lets kick one yard less

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Speaker 1: and they're pinned down inside their own five. I think

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers might win that football game. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I would have went for them. I mean I didn't

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Speaker 1: have went for it on all three of those fourth

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Speaker 1: the only punted three times because I saw that that

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Speaker 1: was something else. It was. They punted three times inside

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Speaker 1: was fourth it was, and it was fourth and nine

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Speaker 1: when they put it in Cleveland territory. Now you were

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Speaker 1: down twenty eight nothing, right, I would have went forth

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Speaker 1: there and that one I didn't. I would, I would, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would. I thought about that. When I'm like that,

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Speaker 1: I could see going for that one, because you're at

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Speaker 1: the thirty nine. I mean, you may lose the game

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Speaker 1: if you don't get that right. I mean that one.

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Speaker 1: I didn't kill Tomlin for the two fourth and ones.

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Speaker 1: I would have went for every time, every day of

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Speaker 1: I know that's not what they're good at, but well,

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Speaker 1: the one was at your own thirty six. You can't

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Speaker 1: go for fourth and one as your own thirty six

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Speaker 1: four than one. I would have I mean the games

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Speaker 1: I mean I would have been in hurry up mode

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Speaker 1: the whole time when in doubt, duck out of bounds,

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Speaker 1: he punted. So you're down, you're down less than two scores, right,

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Speaker 1: and you're starting to get some momentum. You've got some

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Speaker 1: momentum again, You've you've got them to go three and

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Speaker 1: if you get the punt that you want in that situation,

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Speaker 1: it puts them inside their tenner, inside their five. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: continues to play very conservatives. Yeah, I mean the plus,

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Speaker 1: that's what they do. Yeah, but when when you when

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Speaker 1: that changed their philosophy a little bit. They were able

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Speaker 1: to They came out throwing on that in that possession

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Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, they get down to score.

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Speaker 1: Your defense a lot to stop them there. That's I

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Speaker 1: almost said the exact same words. It was. I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not disputing your your initials. Thing that if you

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Speaker 1: close to the goal line. That probably ends up much different.

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Speaker 1: They probably hand the chump three times in punt and

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Speaker 1: everybody wins. You get the ball back. Um. But to me,

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Speaker 1: the turnovers the biggest serieson they lost that game in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, were the turnovers far and far away without

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Speaker 1: a doubt your minds five and turnovers, and of course

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Speaker 1: the palency snap started that trend. But that you can

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Speaker 1: get over that, I mean seven. But you also gave

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Speaker 1: them momentum. You gave him first play, first play of

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Speaker 1: the game. They come out, Oh, this isn't gonna be

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Speaker 1: like every other game in Pittsburgh. We never get these

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Speaker 1: team that gets a punt, you know, punt blocked, it's

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Speaker 1: recovered for a touchdown or safety or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: But I was disappointed the defense. Secondly, I thought the offense,

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Speaker 1: I'll play the defense turnovers aside. Yeah, that was my

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Speaker 1: He was throwing the ball down the field most of

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Speaker 1: the second half, especially as the game went on. Right.

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Speaker 1: They came out trying to establish their run game, and

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Speaker 1: I thought that they were running the ball somewhat effectively

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Speaker 1: clearly what they wanted to do. It was clearly what

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a bad game plan because it's

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Speaker 1: great to get a running game going. And how many

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Speaker 1: times I say last week, boy, I would feature Connor

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Speaker 1: much more than they did, and they and it looked good.

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Speaker 1: They ran the ball pretty decently, But the Browns don't

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Speaker 1: either their starting corner. And you're much better passing the running,

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Speaker 1: like I thought, the better game, but you also see

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Speaker 1: the problems that when you're throwing the ball as much

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Speaker 1: as Again, two of the two of the interceptions came

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Speaker 1: off with tip passes. If you get rid of two

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Speaker 1: and both of the tip passes again, different ball game. Agreed, Agreed,

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Speaker 1: they showed some promise running the football, and UM, you

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Speaker 1: now for the entire second half of the season, they

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Speaker 1: need they need a running game to supplement what Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger does, specifically early in games, to get him more

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Speaker 1: because once he gets into a rhythm, it takes forever

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Speaker 1: for some reason, it's every game. But when he does,

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Speaker 1: when he gets in the rhythm, he's really really good.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's too many times in a road to

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Speaker 1: know if that's something you know, I I I wrote

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Speaker 1: today that you don't you know, people are saying that

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Speaker 1: he's done, just get rid of them, let him go. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that easy. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: just say, hey, let's let's just uh, you know, move

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Speaker 1: on from from Ben Roethlisberger here. Uh, you know, David Woodley,

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Speaker 1: He's not a franchise quarter right. It is different because

425
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Speaker 1: you can play quarterback in the NFL, um without being

426
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Speaker 1: able to, you know, run like you did when you

427
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Speaker 1: were twenty five. You cannot play safety in the NFL

428
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Speaker 1: not being able to run like you would like you

429
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Speaker 1: did when you were twenty five. I mean, look at

430
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the league right now. I mean Brady's

431
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Speaker 1: playing great. Um no, I'm not all great examples. You know,

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Speaker 1: Eli didn't look great at the end, but he Ben's

433
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Speaker 1: not there. He made his decision. The Giants didn't make

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Speaker 1: that decision for him. Breeze has been up and down,

435
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Speaker 1: you know, but he's it's his decision. Yeah, I mean,

436
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: you don't just the Saints didn't washbreeze out the door

437
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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, you know, you're right, and you're the

438
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: other thing. You know, the speed and things like that

439
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: don't matter, aren't as important obviously, And we've talked for

440
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: a while that they probably need to go draft the center.

441
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Speaker 1: You know, this this day is not shocking, whether he

442
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Speaker 1: decides to hang it up or not. But you watch

443
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: pouncing now and anyone who's followed his team anytime there's

444
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Speaker 1: a veteran day off, he's second on the list, behind

445
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Speaker 1: seven or who's gonna be off on week seventeen, it's

446
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Speaker 1: always pound. People don't realize how bad that ankle injury

447
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Speaker 1: was that he had. He had multiple certain like like

448
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Speaker 1: eight surgeries. I don't even I don't know the exact number,

449
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: but it was multiple surgeries just to be able to

450
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Speaker 1: come back and play football again. Yeah, I can imagine.

451
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't realize how bad it is. But

452
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Speaker 1: his I remember Crawley and I talking in the postgame

453
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Speaker 1: show of his first game as a rookie in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: preseason postgame show, and I said to him, he's our

455
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Speaker 1: best lineman already, and the way he bent in his

456
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Speaker 1: lower half and how he could keep all his cleats

457
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Speaker 1: in the ground, and his ankle flexibility and his knee bend,

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Speaker 1: and how he exploded out of that stance as a

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Speaker 1: young player. And I hadn't thought about that pouncy for

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Speaker 1: a while. And I watched that snap, the horrible snap,

461
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Speaker 1: And he's had snapping problems for a while, but there's

462
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Speaker 1: a horrible snap. But if you watch after that, he's

463
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Speaker 1: really struggling to get this reach blocked to his left

464
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Speaker 1: and his body is almost like a right angle. His

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Speaker 1: legs are so stiff and he's so bent at the

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Speaker 1: at the waist you can't He's not the same guy anymore.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't run like it's like Detroy running situation. He

468
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Speaker 1: he he doesn't have leverage like he used to, he

469
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Speaker 1: doesn't bend. He's not as flexible as he used to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's what happens. He had a fantastic career. It

471
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Speaker 1: is what it is. But you know, when you were

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Speaker 1: talking in the previous segment Matt about um maybe changes

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Speaker 1: to this offense. They're not going to change the defensive scheme. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so it's yeah, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: and people want to say, well, Keith Butler. This Keith Butler,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin calls at least half of the defensive plays

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Speaker 1: if you get a high percentage last night. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we ever know those answers, never know for sure.

479
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Speaker 1: But they're doing on defense what Mike Tomlin wants to do,

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Speaker 1: and it's working, and it's working. Keith Butler's also your

481
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Speaker 1: outside linebackers coach and has been the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Well that's been okay, that's been fine, right right. I

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Speaker 1: had no problem with Butler. Yeah, I mean, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: and that's not uncommon for I mean, Kevin Stefanski calls

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Speaker 1: the Brown's offensive place. I mean, coaches do these things.

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Speaker 1: Head coaches do these things, um, but offensively, Um, I

487
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Speaker 1: do agree. And again I'm letna stick with defenses for

488
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Speaker 1: one criticism, and I think it's warranted, although we defended

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Speaker 1: it last week. Is we are seeing linebackers on slot

490
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Speaker 1: received evers more or you know, heavy personnel. They come

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Speaker 1: out and empty and you see T. J. Watt have

492
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Speaker 1: to go off the line of scrimmage and guard Jarvis

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Speaker 1: Landry and every offensive the world wins that twice. Because

494
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Last and last night's game, first two

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Speaker 1: first two times, the Browns ran the ball. Last night,

496
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Speaker 1: they come in. They came out in their first series

497
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Speaker 1: in there in the big set um and then they

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Speaker 1: threw out of it. Okay, they come out in the

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Speaker 1: next series and the Steelers, Uh, they come out and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have Vince Williams off the field because well,

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Speaker 1: they're in. They're they're in, They're they're they're there. They

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Speaker 1: get the receivers on the feud and they ran the ball. Yes,

503
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: and the first two runs. Chub gets thirties seven yards

504
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Speaker 1: on his first two runs. Here comes Vince Williams back

505
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Speaker 1: onto the field. You gotta get Vince Williams on the field.

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Speaker 1: So if you got you gotta go with your your

507
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: base package against that particular you know now you now

508
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: you have to put a linebacker first of all. Everybody

509
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: gets wide receivers or Camara's or Ingram's or Kelsey's on linebackers.

510
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's just offensive football. That's good offensive football

511
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: and such as life. And we saw this to no

512
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: end two years ago. You know that they were either

513
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: the CEOs are either too light or too heavy, and

514
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: lately they've been in that trap too. Well, that's why

515
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Speaker 1: you trade up to ten for why Devon Bushes is

516
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Devon Bush, right, that's why the Bears ever ro Kawin Smith.

517
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Speaker 1: I mean, and you know that's why you know, if

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Speaker 1: if if it's Vince Williams who gets hurt instead of

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Speaker 1: Devon Bush, well then it doesn't change your doesn't change. Yeah,

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00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: you don't have this tell, you don't have this massive tell.

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't So the answer is, well, the answer is,

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Speaker 1: go find three more Devon Bushes that ain't happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're like six of those in the whole league, you know,

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Speaker 1: And that's the value of it. They recognized it, they

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00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: went up and got it, and uh, they lost their

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00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: queen on the chessboard, you know what I mean. It's

527
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: such as life. It's a tough game. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get better if he's out there at my point

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00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: to me if I was, you know and looking at

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Speaker 1: what at that um, the Steelers couldn't allow the Browns

531
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: to continue to run the ball like crazy like that.

532
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: They can't allow they can't allow on their shop to

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Speaker 1: go from you know, twenty yards on every carriage. And

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00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: you know that's what the Browns want to do with

535
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Speaker 1: They want to they don't want, and so you had that.

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00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: You had to take your chances in those situations and

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00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: hope that you got pressure on Mayfield and forced a

538
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: bad throw. Right, agreed. I think you want them throwing. Yeah,

539
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: you don't want Job having the ball. You want Mayfield.

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00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what Chub could do. You know

541
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Speaker 1: that forty the forty yard catch. By the way, did

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00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: you see how that play was designed? I'd have to

543
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: watch it again. There was an unbelievable hold on it.

544
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: But there was not only that their their offensive linemen

545
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: fired out. They were down the field there in the

546
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: middle of their offensive line. He came in behind them

547
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: and caught the football. They're blocking down the field as

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Speaker 1: the balls in the air. I thought it was pretty

549
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: darn not only were there holes here, but I thought

550
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: it was pretty darn close to being ineligible downfield because

551
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: they're your offensive linemen are when do they get three

552
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: five yards? They're farther down the field than three yards,

553
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: and they were blocking before the ball was in the air.

554
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: See one one tell for people who don't know about

555
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: r p O S r POS doesn't mean that the

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00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks running in its lamar. I mean a lot of

557
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: times you'll see half the line pass block and half

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Speaker 1: the run block. Steelers got caught one of those last

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Speaker 1: night where Filer. Yeah, how would you know? Right? The

560
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: player took too long developed the first the first option

561
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: was covered in. Roethlisberger goes down the field to the

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Speaker 1: other side, well, and he's run blocked. Thinking he's moving

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Speaker 1: people out the field because he can't advice in the

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Speaker 1: back of his head. People want to kill Filer for

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00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: that one too. Yeah, they should never start a Filer.

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Speaker 1: He had that penalty on Dawson would have too. Yeah,

567
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, John Handle would have me every Eddy Guarden legative.

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00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: They don't know that, they don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: The same thing with the hold on Filer, I thought

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Speaker 1: that was really I didn't think it was. That was

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Speaker 1: not a hole. Did he just pushing to be critical

572
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: of the team. I don't think the left guard. That's

573
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: not why they lost that foot. But yeah, I mean, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, to get back to my to my original

575
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: thought here, you mentioned the offensive philosophy, and I and

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Speaker 1: I agree it has to be. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: in the division. Um Baltimore is a run heavy team. Yeah,

578
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: they're very unique. Cleveland is a run heavy team. Um,

579
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Speaker 1: and they always will be. Yeah, Baker's never gonna be.

580
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: They don't. They'll never want Baker to be a guy

581
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Speaker 1: who's throwing the ball forty five times a game. Borrow

582
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: is the only one that maybe will be. Maybe, but

583
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Speaker 1: you still have mixing there, right, and they're gonna build

584
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Speaker 1: an offensive. Wouldn't it be nice if he gave Roethlisberger

585
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Speaker 1: a mixing man or a Dobbins or a Chub or

586
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Speaker 1: a Hunt or I'd settle for mark Ingram or g O.

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Speaker 1: G aren't good? Yeah, you know what I mean. I

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00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: mean that that that changes everything? So you know is

589
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: the you have to change offensive coordinators to do that? No, No,

590
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: the only thing that the only you know, if I

591
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: mentioned this today in my in my ten thoughts, if

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Speaker 1: you want to tell me that you need to get

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Speaker 1: away from Randy Feakner because Randy Feckner still believes in

594
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is superman, then we can talk. Then we

595
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: got a problem. Right, But all those things. One of

596
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Speaker 1: my least favorite things. I don't know if you've ever

597
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: had this conversation. One of my least favorite things of

598
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: my job is when people ask me to talk about

599
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: assistant coaches head coaches. I think I've I can see

600
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: what he does every day, I can see the results.

601
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: I can see when he calls time outs. Assistant coaches,

602
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't know when Tomlin's calling a play and Butler

603
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: is or and I've just been in those buildings. I

604
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: don't know what's asked to them. I don't know what

605
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: they relate. What do they bring to the table that

606
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know because I promised every one of them does.

607
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing when you're hiring assistant coaches

608
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: to be a head coach. Coach, Yeah, you have no idea,

609
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: You're You're making a leap of faith there, right, And

610
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I think there's some of that with Feetner. If there

611
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: is value, if him and Ben have a great relationship,

612
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: and you're gonna run it back one more year without question.

613
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: But to your point, if and we mentioned this off

614
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: the air, like if we're if I'm sitting down with

615
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: Randy in the off season and Randy says, I really

616
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: think Ben can still be a guy who throws the

617
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: ball forty five times a game. Right now, We've got

618
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Speaker 1: an issue I need and and l Way was the

619
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Speaker 1: best example. I need that end of career Elway where

620
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: he's spoke in the wheel and in his career Peyton

621
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Speaker 1: Manning absolutely, you know right, without questions, just make just

622
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: give me three to five high high leverage throws a game.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want, and be smart pre snap. And

624
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and again I don't know this either, don't put your

625
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: ego in front of things and call a pass when

626
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: we should run it. Or maybe you don't have as

627
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: much freedom at the line if you're always checking out

628
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: of what we're calling it. I don't those things. I

629
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, but Tomlin knows. And that's that's

630
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: the other part of the equation with Feetner, right are

631
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: you giving are you giving Ben too much leeway here?

632
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: And with another guy not? And so again that's that

633
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: goes back to the Superman conversation. Do you still believe

634
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Speaker 1: he's Superman? Because if you do and you don't feel

635
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Speaker 1: comfortable raining him in a little bit, then we get

636
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: a problem. There's too much scriptonite out. Yeah, yeah, he's

637
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: not the But if you can buy into that, you know,

638
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: and and and you know you can you can say, Okay,

639
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: we need to do this and run the football and

640
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: do these kind of things, and you know, keep Ben

641
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: contained a little bit more than you know, and you win.

642
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gotta be because that's what your defense

643
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: is set up to do. And we said that a

644
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: lot in the offseason. They got away from it, and

645
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: it's not all run pass ratio. I also have a

646
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: real hard time wrapping my head around Vietner writes up

647
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: the game plan and in the first half they never

648
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: do anything, and then Ben takes over and puts the

649
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: cape on and draws things up in the dirt. And

650
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: first of all, folks, he's never driving anything up in

651
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: the dirt. He's not run to the toyota into a

652
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: button hook, you know. I mean maybe he doable things

653
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: out or has suggestions. Maybe, but you can't tell me

654
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys is good at call and plays

655
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: and the other one isn't. And that's why they're good

656
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: in the first half and badness and and I don't

657
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: buy any of that. And I bet if Tomlin was

658
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: sitting here with sodium pent at all, he would die

659
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: laughing at that, like that's not what's happening at all.

660
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not buying that at all. I'm still on

661
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: the camp of I think Matt Canada was a good higher,

662
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see more of that stuff. But

663
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: if seven hates it, seven hates it, that's fine. But

664
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: there's well, there's some of that. There's some of that

665
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: stuff that he just can't do. Yes, right, like people

666
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: don't think like the outside stretch runs and things of

667
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that nature. He just can't make it out. I was

668
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: just about to say that, like Peyton Manning at the

669
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: end couldn't get the They couldn't run outside zone because

670
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: he can't hand them. People don't think of handoffs hard,

671
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: but you gotta make it pretty fast. Then you gotta

672
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: be like handing off behind the tackle in point three

673
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: checonds or whatever. You couldn't get there. So yeah, Ben's

674
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: immobility or heavy feet are gonna limit some things. But

675
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: I still think they could run more play action and

676
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, more deception instead of just trying to win

677
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: with execution. And and this year, uh to that point,

678
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: they'll have more time to work on it. But that's

679
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: a good point too. I mean, you had, if you

680
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: were never comfortable with it, twelve training camp practices to

681
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: work on that, and and you know, once you get

682
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: into the regular season, it's boom boom, boom boom, boom.

683
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: You know they had they had some of it, and

684
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: then you know they Okay, we gotta get away from

685
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: that because this You know that these five or six

686
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: plays that we had with that are work. You know,

687
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: people have seen it now, right, Maybe there wasn't enough

688
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: of it, but I didn't think end the rounds the

689
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: claypool were a bad thing or I mean, I didn't

690
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: know it didn't work. But that's a different Again, if

691
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: your quarterback doesn't like it, then you don't do it.

692
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a believer in that too, but I

693
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: do think they could tweak some things. I also heard

694
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: two fullback carries in a row. Wow, we're really creative,

695
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: Randy way to go. Well, the first one worked and

696
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: we all said, oh that was cool. They should have

697
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: done Emilier in the year. The second one Palace he

698
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: got driven back like eight yards. I mean, like Jim

699
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: Brown wasn't getting that first down. When you do something

700
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that you haven't shown all year, uh that's again, and

701
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: it works, that's that's what you play. You know, then

702
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: you get the creative label. Yeah right right, you know

703
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: if that's a you know, people love to criticize the

704
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator because well, I did this all Madden and well,

705
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know how many points did the offense

706
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: put up last night? They also they also gave up

707
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: enough to lose. Yes, but he didn't have balls tipped

708
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: to the line of scribbage or overthrows, you know. And

709
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: that's not on Fetner. And I'm not even a huge

710
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend Randy Fetner to the end of the earth.

711
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: But it's just very easy to blame the offensive coordinator.

712
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: And people do it way too quick around here too. Yeah,

713
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: I agree, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Allett. You're

714
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're

715
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna take a break, we'll be back talking more Steelers

716
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: wrap up right after this your tunes about drive on

717
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. We

718
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: are back. I'm Dale ally here with Matt Williamson and

719
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: Matt the Steelers. Uh, I'm I'm gonna start planning for

720
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: the off season in terms of all that good stuff.

721
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: And they've got nineteen potential unrestricted free agents. UM, let's

722
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: warn people because what you're about to hear is not

723
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna be is r rated. You know, you're not gonna

724
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: like hearing any of this, but they always find a way.

725
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the NFL salary cap is a myth,

726
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: but it's very flexible and every teams are gonna be

727
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: in some issues this year too. I mean, so it's

728
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna sound bad, but it's not the end of the world, right. Uh.

729
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: First and foremost we you you talked about one of

730
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: those guys already. That would be Bud dupree. Um. I

731
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: believe that he's very good, that he has taken a step,

732
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: that he's an impact. They were one in five after

733
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: losing Bud Dupree. I don't think that's a coincidence. And

734
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: that's no knock on high Smith, who I think it's

735
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: got a pretty good future. I think Bud's a difference

736
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: maker and it's a legit dude. Yeah, special player. You

737
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: have to have to account for him, you know, even

738
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: in that it's sending. It's not just the past rush.

739
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: He's very good against the run. We've seen some deficiencies there. Yeah,

740
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean teams run on the left, so the offenses

741
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: left and that edge is not sealed like it was

742
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: when Budd was there. And he's been good at that

743
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: for a while. He is a big man and very powerful, strong, fast, powerful.

744
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: There could be a you know, it could be a

745
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: situation with him coming back off of a torn a

746
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: c L that he doesn't get a long term I wonder,

747
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: I wonder what the market value is going to be,

748
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: because there are going to be other guys out there,

749
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, when when free agency rolls run in March,

750
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: is he going to be healed enough that somebody's gonna say, hey, Bud,

751
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: we'll give you, you know, four years and you know,

752
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. That's a leap of faith medically. Yeah,

753
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: if you're now it was an a c L. It

754
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: was not you know, totally blown out and they were

755
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: dislocated in Yeah. Right, that's looked at differently now than

756
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: it was, as to your point, than it was. I

757
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: assume he'll be able to take visits and free agents

758
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: will be able to visit this year like last year,

759
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: But is he going to be ready at the start

760
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: of the season, and you know, therefore you're gonna be

761
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: willing They're gonna be other guys out there available if

762
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: you're the team looking to add an edge. Judean is

763
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: a bad example, but there'll be somebody like him that

764
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: maybe you that's a tiebreaker in in buds, not favor, right,

765
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe you know what I mean, And maybe he just

766
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: looks it and says, you know what, I'm comfortable here.

767
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: I want to come back. I'll come back, you know,

768
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: on a one year deal and just let's run it

769
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: back again. I want to show that everybody that I'm healthy.

770
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: I'll still be twenty nine when I hit free agency

771
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: next year, maybe coming off double digit sacks and number

772
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: one defense, and I would be all ears to that.

773
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: And that's not unlock at all on high Smith, who

774
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: I think can be a starter, But boy, be nice

775
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: to have depth there. You know, that front line, including

776
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the big men, which is a different conversation, hasn't been

777
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: the same at the end of the year at the beginning.

778
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: So when in doubt, and this is kind of like

779
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: a college philosophy, give me a more defensive line. You

780
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: can give me more guys, another guy that gets a

781
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: quarterback on the ground, I'd be all ears, Yeah, I would.

782
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I would at least talk to him about that and say, hey,

783
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, before you signed, before you sign somewhere else,

784
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: give us a chance, you know, see if we can

785
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: make something happen here. Franchising him again is not an option.

786
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: That's not that then you're talking twenty million dollars. Yeah,

787
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean you could take the ball out of his

788
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: hands on this decision, but I don't think that's possible. Um.

789
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: Some of the other guys who are free agents u

790
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: al Jandra Villaneuava, I think he's done that have gone

791
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: with you. He'll be thirty three, Matt Feiler. He's an

792
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: interesting one to me. He's twenty nine, so it's not

793
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: like he's a young pup anymore. So he'll be thirty

794
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: next year. Um, but he can play guard tackle for you, right,

795
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: But is he a starter? He's gonna get me. I

796
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: think he'll get a big starter money somewhere, Matt Filer.

797
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: B J. Finney gotta he's not. He's not to be

798
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: the player of the beach or he's better player than

799
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: b J. Finney. It gives you Morey's a center guard.

800
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: This guy's a guard tackle and he could play. He

801
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: could play some center for you if he really needed

802
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: you to. Yeah. Do you think I thought he was

803
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: better at tackle last year than he was a guard

804
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: this year? I agree? If I saw him two years ago,

805
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: I would project him as a guard though, right, So

806
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: he's a tough eval. Do you think I don't think

807
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: he's your left tackle. No, he's your left guard or

808
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: your right tackle. I think I have my left guard

809
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: on my roster though, and I know I had my

810
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: right guard on my roster and none of them are centers. Yes,

811
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: So if if Fidler's my right tackle and I think

812
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: he can be the two thousand nineteen Matt Filer right tackle,

813
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm interested. But what's that gonna cost me? Right? That's

814
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: that's not what I mean. That's the thing. Is it?

815
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Is it? You know, a three year deal at nine million?

816
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: Is it a three year deal at fifteen million? Because

817
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: that's a big difference when it's all said. And if

818
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm his agent, I'm coming in at that and I

819
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: bet I'm getting it. I'm like, he's a And that's

820
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: the thing. If you're his agent, you're going to team same. Well,

821
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: he's a tackle, Steelers. Steelers played him at a guard

822
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: last year. But he's a tackle. But he can know

823
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: by the way he can, he can play guard for

824
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: you as well. He can you can put him anywhere

825
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: in your offensive line and beat and be good. Let's

826
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: talk about Banner then two Okay, see Banner, I think

827
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: you can get back on him one year. He's not

828
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: he's I think he's injury. He's never he's never shown

829
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: anything to anybody know, very little tape everybody else. See.

830
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: I think he's my first call, and I think he's

831
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: the first. I think you can get that deal done

832
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: rather now, and then Feiler, we'll talk. If you're in

833
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: that three million range, fine, and we have six good

834
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: ones then or six guys we can play and maybe

835
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: a rookie. Okay, if you're gonna have outprice us, then

836
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: maybe our first round picks a tackle, you know, maybe

837
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: it is anyway, Yeah, no, I agree. I think that

838
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: that that makes a good sense there. But getting Banner

839
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: locked up would be nice. I think that gets done.

840
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: That's definitely gets done before free agency hits. Um and

841
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: maybe he's your left tackle. I mean he's not potentially Yeah. Um,

842
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: you got Avery Williamson who's understricted free agent. That's not

843
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna if he bounces around in free agency for a

844
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: couple of months and a couple of weeks or a

845
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: couple months and doesn't get any action. Fine, Yeah, Vince McDonald,

846
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: they have a six point five million dollar option on

847
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: I think I gotta move on. Uh, Mike Hilton. I

848
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: will say Splaine didn't exactly help my cause for last night. No,

849
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is that who he is and that's

850
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: who's gonna be. I just mean that with Williamson. But

851
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Williamson's not gonna be cheap. No, he's not, you know, Uh,

852
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Mike Hilton. Uh to me, love Mike Hilton, love what

853
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: he does. He's not He's not good in coverage. He's

854
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: not good enough in coverage for me to pay him

855
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: the five million dollars that he's probably gonna cost you

856
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: per year. He's going to be one of the higher

857
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: paid slot guys in the league. But I would rather

858
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: have Cam Sutton. I think I would too. And I

859
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: think Cam's cheaper. Yeah, and I know he's more versatile,

860
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: like if I if I find something in the draft

861
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: that and Sutton is gonna be my third safety and

862
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, jack of all trades as he's been. I

863
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: know he's a jack of all trades. I think he's

864
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: a starting slot corner. I think he can be an

865
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: outside corner. Yeah, I think I'd rather invest in Sutton. Yes,

866
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: that's who I would invest in as well. Is he

867
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: your next call after Banner? Yes, I want to get

868
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: that done pre draft, pre free agency. He's young, Yeah,

869
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: I agreed. Um, then you're looking at Tyson and LOUI

870
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: Lou at thirty four. I think you can get him back,

871
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: and I think that you want him back. But I

872
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: also think then you draft one. I think so too,

873
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: more so than you know earlier, earlier than the seventh round.

874
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: It's to be some you know, if you get that

875
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: compensatory pick that you got for hard Grave and you

876
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: use that then on another young defensive lineman who can

877
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: play nose or end. You'd love to find a hard Grave,

878
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: small school guy that should be an early second round

879
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: pick that you get the third, and then a Lulu

880
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: goes back to his previous role of playing twenty five

881
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: snaps a game. I think that's great. Yeah, and underrated,

882
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of touched on it and underrated. Need for me

883
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: is a fourth defensive lineman. If you lose a Lulu,

884
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: then it's a third and a fourth. I want him

885
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: to be my fourth. That's what they thought they were

886
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: getting with Warmly. Yeah, and he's a fifth, yeah, you

887
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And he's a free agent. He's

888
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: a free agent and okay, yeah, but I would bring

889
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: a Lululu back. He's thirty four. A one year deal

890
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: probably gets that done it. You know, three million, I

891
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: was about say three three. He made two point eight

892
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: seven five this year. Yeah, give him a little bomb

893
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: running back playing West snaps from him. I'm like, great, Yeah,

894
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't have to move right. Yeah, I think that's

895
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: a done deal too. Yeah, then you got the Cassius Marsh.

896
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't care about Juju Smith Schuster. I think he's gone.

897
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gone. Yeah. I'm not paying him fifteen

898
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: million dollars. It's not because of TikTok. It's just he's gonna.

899
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old and he he those guys

900
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: get paid, uh Sean Davis. Yeah, and let's see, Yeah,

901
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: I see what what his market is. Jordan Barry wouldn't

902
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: bother me one way or the other if they went

903
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: they tried to replace him this year. They don't play

904
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: him on defense. Yeah, you can fight especially you know.

905
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: Then you're looking at j Ron Elliot, Chris Warmly as

906
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned Jordan Dangerfield, Uh, Trey Edmonds, Danny as a

907
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: Doorra mentioned Cam Sutton James Conner is the other. Uh

908
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: we talked about him earlier, Josh Dobbs. It doesn't matter

909
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I'm not in uh So there's some

910
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: guys there. Uh. The interesting thing is gonna be to me.

911
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: Does somebody see Cam Sutton as a potential starter? See,

912
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: that's why I think maybe he's your first call instead

913
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: of Banner, Like that's not even let him get that

914
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: and thought in his mind, let's offer him a big

915
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: deal of a second we can not a big deal,

916
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: but a good deal. Spot Track is now listing Cam

917
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: Sutton's market value at seven point two million dollars a year.

918
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I think he's worth it because he can play. And

919
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: three they're looking at a three or twenty one million

920
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: dollar contract is what they're estimating. He's worth it. If

921
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: Steelers to give him at three for nineteen, I'm interesting,

922
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, knowing that Hilton's leave and you can't lose both,

923
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: can't lose both, and he's still in his prime and

924
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: deserves more snaps, and he might take it right now,

925
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: right three for eighteen. You know, I'm at the table

926
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: with that. Mrs Sutton says, that's a lot better. And

927
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: we've been doing just we have to move. All's well,

928
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna play a lot more. You're a good defense.

929
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: That might we'll see, but we gotta take another break.

930
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lelly. You're listening

931
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Will be

932
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: back right after. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly

933
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your home of the Black and

934
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back up, Dale Lolly here

935
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. And looked a little quick fantasy report

936
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: here before we get back to the Steelers talk. Um, So,

937
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: our DFS lineup did okay, great, but we we got

938
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: we we finished, Yeah, we've we finished in the money.

939
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Our lineup for the lineup that we put together was

940
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger quarterback. He had thirty seven point oh four points.

941
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. Do they take interceptions away and yeah? Yeah, okay, Um,

942
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: so he would have been over four touchdowns. Um. J K.

943
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: Dobbins didn't work out quite as well as what we hoped.

944
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: He had ten point seven points. But James Conner nineteen

945
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: point seven points, caught some balls, had had touches. That's

946
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: what we thought was gonna happen pretty well. Uh, stef

947
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. This this wasn't our line of this was

948
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: my lineup. Let's running through both of them. Our lineup

949
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: didn't score. This was the lineup that I started, but

950
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: we talked about it. It It was so I started Stefon Diggs. Uh,

951
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: he had twenty seven point. I started Deante Johnson at

952
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: five point seven point. Nice to be scored, but boy,

953
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: he had a nice game. I also started John Brown though,

954
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: who got it? That was one guy we both started.

955
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, I also started Mark Andrews. He had eight

956
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: point one points for what he costs that you're not

957
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: thrilled with that. But cam Akers however at twenty eight

958
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: point six big and he was tearing things up. We

959
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: talked about this with your lineup, and then I started

960
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: the Bucks defense. I paid up at the end, I

961
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: had the Rams defense in there, and I thought, I

962
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: don't like the quarterback situation. I've got the money to

963
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: do this. I'm gonna pay up and get the Bucks defense.

964
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: And did the exact same thing. In that fantasy league

965
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm in thinking the Seattle might do fine, the Rams

966
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: might do fine, but the Bucks will do well. There's

967
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: the way heine, he's gonna think he played really well. Yeah,

968
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: so that got me a hundred and sixty one point

969
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: six four points. I won ten dollars on my five

970
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: dollar investment. Your money. I did not do so on

971
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: the other line dollar. Bet you'd be happy. Yeah. The

972
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: lineup that we started the week picked last week, we

973
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: had Lamar Jackson at quarterback for what we paid was okay,

974
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: not great. He had twenty eight point seven six points.

975
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: We've been better off starting Roethlisberger. Yes, I know, he'd

976
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: been a latch. Roethlisberger had almost ten more points. Uh.

977
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: We did well with cam Akers. Yeah, nice, twenty eight

978
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: point six points. He is going to be a fantasy stud.

979
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he looks apart and he's gonna be the guy.

980
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: We had James Conner again we did okay there, nineteen

981
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: point seven points. You'll take this knocked out he was

982
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: Do you have to add the lineup? We our Allen

983
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Robinson pick. That didn't work out quite so well. He

984
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: had eleven point five points. He started really slow and

985
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: got like those last driver too, which is what we

986
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: thought was gonna happen. It just wasn't. Wasn't garbage g

987
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: e enough. We didn't get the garbage touchdown that we

988
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: needed out of it. I think they had the ball

989
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes. Yeah, was disastrous. We had Deante

990
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Johnson at twenty five points seven points. Yeah again, and

991
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: he'll take it targets every time. But we also had

992
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: John Brown four targets and no points, no points. It's

993
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: a killer. We also had Mark Andrews at eight point one.

994
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: Could have done better, but not so bad. Yeah. We

995
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: also had J. K. Dobbins at ten point seven points,

996
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: pretty much the same, and we picked the Seahawks defense

997
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: that scored three. Now, it wasn't the box three. I'm

998
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: sure there's heard a lot of people in fantasy, but

999
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: most of us thought Bill's Ravens would have been or

1000
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Titans Ravens was gonna be eight point scored,

1001
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, like it was a lot lower scoring than

1002
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: I expected. Yeah, the winning total from that contest, uh scored.

1003
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: We were seventy five points behind that the winner. Uh.

1004
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: He scored two hundred and eleven point four four of

1005
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: somebody it's called Shamus point Shamus seven. He had Ben Roethlisberger,

1006
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: he had Nick Chubb, he had Cam Akers, he had

1007
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: ju Ju did you had thirty seven point seven point.

1008
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: He had Chase Claypool. It's twenty two point nine points.

1009
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: Steeler stack working out for him. Jimmy Graham, who had

1010
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: ten point five points. How about that, by the way,

1011
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, what if I hope he like ends his

1012
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: career on that. I know they lost the postseason game,

1013
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: but in the building that drafted you, this one handed

1014
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: cat didn't mean anything but one handed touchdown catch and

1015
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: he just walks off, just leaves the building right out

1016
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: of the out of the place. Jimmy has left the building. Yeah,

1017
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: he's had a great career. That's a cool way to

1018
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: end it. He also had Jonathan Taylor. It's a team

1019
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: point four and then his defense was the Washington football team,

1020
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: which had six Fantasy points. That I mean, that's that's

1021
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: hitting the I mean, there's not many guys there that

1022
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: that you look at and said we I mean again,

1023
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: points across the board and that. And they do these

1024
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: little things on DraftKings where if your player outperforms his value,

1025
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: that gets a little flame on his knees. It's just

1026
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: flames the whole way. Again, I'm just thinking strategy. He

1027
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: didn't really pay up for a stud and he took

1028
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: a lot of his biggest He had Stefan da are

1029
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: you Diggs? Yeah? He he had digs at twenty seven

1030
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: point eight points. Here's the here's the thing on. Here's

1031
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: the ownerships. And Roethlisberger was owned in that contest in

1032
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: twelve point three, which is good. You know that he's

1033
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: not chocky at all. I mean there were only six

1034
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: there's only six games. There's twelve quarterbacks to choose from,

1035
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: mind you, So I bet he's one of the most

1036
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: profitable owns at any position this week, probably good other places.

1037
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: And he hit Chubb was only owned in sixteen point

1038
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: seven percent leaves, which is kind of surprising. It was

1039
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: bad matchup on paper on paper, and really, I mean

1040
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: if you look at at the what he he had

1041
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: seventy six yards and eighteen carries. I mean he had

1042
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards on or thirty seven yards in his

1043
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: first two carries. The Steelers did a nice job against

1044
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: him after that. They did you know the catches, Uh,

1045
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: cam Akers was owning twenty seven point five percent. Yeah,

1046
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: he was more chalky. Ju Ju was only nine point

1047
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: nine percent. Hm. I understand that though. I mean, it's

1048
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: just the Steelers receivers are probably mind boggling, especially for

1049
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: people outside of Pittsburgh. Chase Claypol was twenty three percent ownership. Yeah,

1050
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: well he had just come off a huge game against

1051
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: the Bran Diggs was thirty four point four percent, and

1052
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: he was the he was the highest price receiver on

1053
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: the board. Jimmy Graham was three point one percent. I

1054
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine anybody taking and he outperformed. Yeah, tight end

1055
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: catch of touchdowns enough. Jonathan Taylor was at twenty eight

1056
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: point nine per cent. Yeah, I could see that. I

1057
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: was all in on him too, and the Washington football

1058
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: team was at thirteen point five percent. Not the best

1059
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: matchup for them, No, and they didn't really get the Brady, No,

1060
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: they didn't, but they did. They did enough ownership on

1061
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: our team. Lamar was at seven teen point three percent, understandable.

1062
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: Connor was at eight percent, so we hit a home

1063
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: run there with Acres was twenty seven point five. Deante

1064
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: Johnson was twenty eight point seven percent ownership, so a

1065
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: lot of people were in on that with us. I

1066
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: still think people want to rate what he could do

1067
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: fantasy wise. Um Allen Robinson was at uh eleven point

1068
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: seven percent ownership yeah, I thought he would have a

1069
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: bigger day, but if he If he had, we would

1070
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: would have been You know, how about this, twenty five

1071
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: point eight percent of people out there started John Brown.

1072
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: Everybody took a zero. A quarter of the lineup s

1073
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: an there took a zero on John Brown. That was

1074
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: a big running and Mark Andrews at one percent, Browns

1075
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: the start this week back? Can you go back to that? Well,

1076
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: his his ownership will be much better. Uh. Dobbins was

1077
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: was it? The thirty one point two percent? And that

1078
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: was a kind of a killer too, because he was

1079
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: the other part of the equation. You either get the

1080
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: fire nothing next to your your point total, or you

1081
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: get a snowflake, ice cold. Well, Dobbs, the top part

1082
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: of our lineup was all fire, the bottom part snow. Yeah,

1083
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: Dobbins ten point seven points was not good. And then

1084
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks that they had twenty three point eight percent.

1085
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: That's what he did forty three rushing yards minus six

1086
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: receiving yards. That's negative points. Yeah. Um yeah, I was

1087
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: shocked at Tennessee. The Henry owners the ones that are

1088
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: probably most Oh yeah, we never bought in on him.

1089
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I would like to see here in that contest to

1090
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: see if we can find to Henry. I was trying

1091
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: to think, who are the real letdowns? Who are the

1092
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: bottom feeders? He's going to leave that list we had.

1093
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: Let's see, I gotta find I'm clicking through there he is, Okay,

1094
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry was at twenty seven point five percent ownership.

1095
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Ownership was expensive. He had eight point one points for

1096
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: that dollars. That's that's But I'm looking here at somebody

1097
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: who actually finished in the money. They won ten bucks.

1098
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: But they had Roethlisberger, they had Juju Claypool, Corey Davis

1099
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: had a zero. Yeah, um Eric, he had Eric Ebron.

1100
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: Ebron at nineteen point two points. Abron was the number

1101
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: one Fantasy tight end this weekend. He was probably the

1102
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: best value too. Yeah, he didn't cost you much. It's

1103
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: thirty seven hundred bucks. Um. Yeah, that's that one got

1104
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: carried by those guys because you know a lot of Steelers,

1105
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: the whole Steeler passing well, yeah right right, put that

1106
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: submit that lineup with two receivers, a tight end at

1107
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yeah, I thought about doing that, and man

1108
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: if I didn't know, and hey, they're gonna throw it

1109
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: for five hundred yards but we also even had Connor

1110
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: in the game. You know that's and he was he

1111
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: he performed, you know, he had points. Um. That just

1112
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: shows you the disc and the difference between fantasy and reality,

1113
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: without question, without question. And this isn't fantasy related. And

1114
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of people down on

1115
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers and I am too. I was not I

1116
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: was not impressed. I was disappointed. They moved the ball easily.

1117
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna bash the Browns. Good for them.

1118
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: They won that football game. They were the better team

1119
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: in Trouble next week. I sat there the entire time

1120
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: in the second half, thinking, oh boy, their corners are drunk.

1121
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: And I mean the Steelers receivers look like they were

1122
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: open constant. The Chiefs may hang fifty on the next thing.

1123
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: They will. Yeah, but I'm not bashing the Browns. But

1124
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: good for them. They went a playoff game, but they

1125
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: allowed five hundred yards in the air and now they

1126
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: get the face behind How you covering? How you covering

1127
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: all those guys know, by the way, the Chiefs will

1128
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball if they want to.

1129
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: They could do whatever they want. I'm curious. I'm kind

1130
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: of new to the dfs. But what's mahomes Kelsey Tyreek

1131
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: gonna cost. Well, we'll do that later in a week.

1132
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: It's even not gonna be on the stack the chief

1133
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: not like you could with the with the I mean

1134
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: you could, but you're gonna have to go really cheap

1135
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: at other positions. You know, you're gonna be good matchup

1136
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: as long as we'll talk about later in the week. Yeah,

1137
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a smoking matchup and that's one. Well,

1138
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: maybe we'll explore that later in the week and see

1139
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: if we can't get it, come up with some kind

1140
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: of way that's to stack those Chiefs because it could

1141
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: be ugly. It could be it could be ugly, but

1142
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you respect of the Browns, but boy, they're

1143
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: back seven is is vulnerable. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting

1144
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: when you look at the games this weekend from a

1145
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: fantasy standpoint, because you'll have uh, you know, rematch Um

1146
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: for the third time. We'll see that the Tampa Bay

1147
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: in New Orry and he's playing really well, and that

1148
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: past and four NET was useful. Nobody nobody played for NET.

1149
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: Are you gonna want to stack uh Green Bay guys

1150
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: against the Rams? Probably not. Sat Is tough, and the

1151
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: Ramsey's really tough, and I think Ramsey's gonna on app

1152
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to play Acres again this week. It's

1153
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: not bad. Yeah, I may play Browns. I may play

1154
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: Browns and they may have to throw throws throw, but

1155
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean Chobb and Hunt I don't think will be

1156
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: bad plays. But there's also they could also go out

1157
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: and throw for two yards in that game because Baker's

1158
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: on his back the whole time. Good good. I'm not

1159
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm super impressed with the Chiefs d No, I'm not either,

1160
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: but they've done well keeping other teams receivers in check.

1161
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, the corners aren't bad. The corners aren't bad.

1162
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: And they possessed a football, uh, and they put a

1163
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on you because you got to try

1164
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: to keep up with them. And that's not a I'm

1165
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: not super excited about Landry or Hooper maybe, but I

1166
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 1: was thinking about the running. And then that other game

1167
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: is Bill's Ravens. That's gonna be a high over under.

1168
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean both Steve played really well last week. Both

1169
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks are gonna run the ball. Yeah, they're

1170
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna be expensive. They're gonna be expensive and be really expensive,

1171
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be an interesting when we when we

1172
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: do that later in a week. And by the way,

1173
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: we will be doing shows all five days this week

1174
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: and then we'll be changing our schedule up then next week.

1175
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: But will we continue to bring you ongoing Steelers coverage

1176
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break.

1177
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolli. You're listening to

1178
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Your tunes about

1179
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

1180
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: We're back on Dale Lollie here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

1181
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: The National champ Meanship Game will be held tonight and

1182
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: as you can imagine U when Ohio State and Alabama

1183
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: step on the field, there will be a few pro

1184
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: prospects in the right yeah. Uh and in some positions

1185
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: we talked about too. I mean, I think it could

1186
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: be very steel or relevant tonight. So so if you

1187
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: weren't planning on watching, or if you're just putting a

1188
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: puzzle bucks down or don't care, or some of you

1189
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: oh Have State fans probably super into it. But there's

1190
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: some Steeler things to look at in this game. I

1191
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 1: think yeah, you you you. You sent me a list

1192
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: today of the top twenty seven guys in here. This

1193
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: is coming from Dame Burglar. I put two lists together,

1194
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: focused and one was Danes. I prefer Danes to be.

1195
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: I prefer Danes as well. He was the first one. Um,

1196
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: he's the first one. Okay. Uh, so his his top

1197
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: prospects in this game. We're gonna go down the list

1198
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: here from the top or from the bottom. Uh he

1199
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: has a Thayer Munford offensive tackle from Ohio State, six six,

1200
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: he's three thirteen. Uh. Dane says he's one of the

1201
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: more polarizing guys in this draft. Some see him as

1202
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: a top hundred pick, see him as a later round guy. Um,

1203
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: but I read through all these and I didn't know

1204
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: his name, but he kind of is intriguing to me.

1205
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, is a left tackled Ohio State that maybe

1206
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: you can get in the third round or so That

1207
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: kind of sounds Steeler is to me. Yeah again, sixteen,

1208
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: got the size that you're looking for. Obviously he's playing

1209
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: in a high level right. UM, number twenty six he

1210
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: has uh he's This is underclassman Tyreek Smith, the edge

1211
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: rusher out of Ohio State. He's six two sixty five. Um. Yeah,

1212
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: some of these guys at the bottom and we can

1213
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: probably skim over pretty quick. But they have a couple

1214
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: of edge rushers that are not They're not you know

1215
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, not the next Chase Young. But they

1216
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: always have those guys and maybe you get a fourth

1217
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: rounder if you don't bring back. But I mean I

1218
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: would think they'll be in the market for a third

1219
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: guy or you know, developmental player at that position. UM

1220
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: has us underclassman cornerback us of In Banks out of

1221
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State, good side outside guy. They play a lot

1222
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: of man coverage, so he's somebody to think about. Yeah,

1223
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: Um an interception last week against Trevor Lawrence number twenty four,

1224
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: the other Ohio State offensive tackle on Nicholas petite Frere. Yeah,

1225
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: I think he's the right tackle, but also is a

1226
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: prospect again good side, not not in one of these

1227
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: big overwake gut six five, three oh five. Yeah. They

1228
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of the athletic guys. Yeah, and

1229
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: he's a little more athletic I think and I think

1230
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 1: so too. Yeah, and pay attention to the old line.

1231
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a guard that's gonna be a

1232
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: high but we'll get this on the name. But their

1233
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: center is also a prospect, so some of these old

1234
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: lineman for Ohio State might work out. UH twenty three,

1235
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: the first Alabama player that would be Josh Job at

1236
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: the cornerback. He's six. I don't think the Steelers going

1237
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: to be in the cornerback and we'll get to him,

1238
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: but Certains kids the other corner and he's nobody. Yeah,

1239
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: so this guy gets some attention. Uh. At twenty two,

1240
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: Shawn Wade cornerback. He's more of a defensive back six

1241
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: for Ohio State. UM, I don't think he factors in

1242
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: for the Steelers, but he's an interesting guy because a

1243
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: lot of people project him as the first round pick

1244
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: because they had two corners go in the first round.

1245
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: He was and he was the guy last year and

1246
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: he went outside in a terrible year. So maybe maybe

1247
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: he's a slot or a Malcolm Jenkins safety, you know

1248
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: type guys. But his stock has not gone up. Number

1249
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: twenty one Fedarian mathis a defensive tackle out of Alabama

1250
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: six three, three fifteen. I don't know much about him.

1251
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: There's a couple of defensive tackles that are on the list,

1252
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: and you know to work to look at here. Uh.

1253
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Number twenty Haskell Garrett at defensive tackle from Ohio State.

1254
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: He's six to three hundred. I like him. That's that

1255
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: screams nose tackle he type. Yeah. I mean maybe he's

1256
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: the third round pick that we talked about that can

1257
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: spell lu lulu. You know, he's somebody I really want

1258
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: to watch tonight. Yeah, he'll be lining up mostly in

1259
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: that middle. A little bit shorter. Uh. Number nineteen, another

1260
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Lots of defensive tackles in this game, Lebrian Ray. Uh,

1261
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: he's six were two ninety six. He's more of an

1262
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: end type. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know a lot about him,

1263
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: but didn't have um. I think he's more in the

1264
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: cam to a mold yeah, but without the production. Yeah. Yeah,

1265
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure as a five star recruited. Yeah. Uh. First

1266
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: guard here, that would be Deante Brown, the guard out

1267
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: of Alabama six three three sixty. He's a masher, he

1268
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: is a masher. Yeah. I don't think the Steelers need

1269
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: to I don't think the Steelers need to do that. Yeah. Uh.

1270
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Seventeen is Jeremy Ruckert, the tight end out of Ohio

1271
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: State six five to fifty five. You know you know

1272
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: the tight ends at Ohio State can block. Yeah, they can,

1273
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: and you know that they were highly recruited. You know

1274
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: that they can block. So sometimes you can find one

1275
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: that just was kind of underutilized that's a little bit

1276
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: better athlete than given credit for. Yeah, it's sixteen. Is

1277
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: that the interior linebacker Pete Warner, off ball linebacker from

1278
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State six five? They have another one coming up

1279
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: to They have two smaller, fast, modern day linebackers that

1280
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: are of interest. Yeah. Uh at fifteen. I like this kid,

1281
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: Tray Sermon, the running back out of Ohio State five eleven.

1282
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: Tr Um. I would think I'm kind of projecting and guessing.

1283
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: I think he kind of entered the season as a

1284
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: fourth fifth round pick. Maybe now he's a third. He's

1285
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: a transfer from Oklahoma. He's a pedigree guy, but he's

1286
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: been tearing it up lately. Yeah. Um. Last three games

1287
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: against Michigan State, Northwestern and Clemson, he's run the ball

1288
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: seventy times for six six thirty six yards and four touchdowns.

1289
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: It's been highly carried at the right time. Yea. Uh,

1290
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: Number fourteen, Baron Browning, that's the other in state linebacker.

1291
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: He's six two thirty seven. Of course he's eight former

1292
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: five star recruits as well. These guys can run. Yeah

1293
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: that both those linebackers are every down type projections. You know,

1294
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know, that's one position. I wouldn't mind

1295
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers at least addressing and trying to get another

1296
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, even if he has some flaws in his game,

1297
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: you still have Vince Williams there. But if you can

1298
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: go get another guy who's like bush and maybe he's

1299
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: developmental next thing, you know, special team in another year,

1300
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: not maybe you have two bushes exactly because probably won't

1301
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: have Williamson having two birds in the bush? Is Vince

1302
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: somebody that might not be long in terms of money,

1303
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think he's a cap. Yeah,

1304
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's making a decent amount of money, but

1305
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: I think for what he does for you and your

1306
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: lack of depth at that position, I'm thinking a year

1307
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 1: from now, ye, well, yeah, that's taking the fourth round

1308
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: and he's a hit. You have to start looking in

1309
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: that direction. Um At thirteen, you have Tommy to I

1310
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: can't pronounce his name. Yeah, Tommy guy, he's even more nose.

1311
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: It's a Polynesian name. I can't pronounce it either. But

1312
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a Steeler throwback nose.

1313
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: But he's you know, he's active enough. Is somebody consider him.

1314
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: We've talked about dis guy before. Number twelve, Alex Leatherwood. Um.

1315
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: Some him as a tackle, some se him as a guard,

1316
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: but he's sixteen. I can't imagine being a guard. I

1317
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: mean with at least he's a right tackle. Yeah, I mean,

1318
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: from what I've seen him, he's a He's an easy tackle.

1319
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: It seems like people are lower on him than they

1320
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: used to be. I'm not exactly sure why. It could

1321
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: be a pivotal game for him. That's finally falls into

1322
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: Day two. I mean, he may be the Stewards first

1323
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: round pick. I think it's a possibility, but yeah, we'll see.

1324
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: At eleven, Dylan Moses, the linebacker from Alabama six thirty five.

1325
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: This guy was like the recruit, superstar, super athletic, size, speed,

1326
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: and didn't do much this year. I mean he kind

1327
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: of fell off. They missed last year with an a

1328
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: c L. You wonder if that affected his play this

1329
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,919
Speaker 1: year at all. Uh. Number ten, Mac Jones, the quarterback

1330
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: out of Alabama. We've seen his name linked to the

1331
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: Steelers a little bit. I think it is possible. I mean,

1332
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: if I were to guess that, if they said they

1333
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: went a quarterback and the first round pick, I think

1334
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: would be him. I don't think to uh, this year

1335
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: helped him. Probably not stock at all, because you you're

1336
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna aways wonder about those Bama quarterbacks. Okay, was it

1337
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: was he actually any good? Was or was it the

1338
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: system and the guys around him? It's the Matt Liner effect.

1339
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: Like if I'm dumping at the reggie bush and throwing it,

1340
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: you know it's and I get I get a pro

1341
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: offensive line in front of me. That's certainly useful. I

1342
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: will say one thing about Jones is very few mistakes, right,

1343
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: That's what I've noticed watching him. And there's like no

1344
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: real wow plays or anything like that. But yeah, he

1345
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: just gets the ball to where it has to go.

1346
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: This one't blow people scarred up, but I've heard him

1347
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: compared to Matt Hasselbeck, it was pretty down good in

1348
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: his day. Yeah, you know, you win a lot of

1349
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: games with the map Seahawks to the super right um

1350
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: number nine, Whyatt Davis guard from Ohio State again, A

1351
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: lot of guys in the trenches in this game. Yeah,

1352
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: as you would imagine, but he's gonna be pretty high picked,

1353
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: maybe the first guard off the board at eight. Josh Meyers,

1354
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: the center from about until this morning. He's the one

1355
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: I want to look at the most because Bama had

1356
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: the considered the best center in this draft, and then

1357
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: he got hurt and he's out for a while. Um

1358
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: Dickens Dickerson at Dickerson is his name. But this guy

1359
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: didn't realize was a top prospect too, So big big

1360
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: audition for him. And I absolutely and if you're a

1361
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 1: Steelers fan, you should be watching. You should be watching,

1362
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: You should be watching the center. Uh number seven nausea. Harris,

1363
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,959
Speaker 1: the big running back out of Ohio, out of Alabama,

1364
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: should say six thirty two. We said they needed back,

1365
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: they need it back. Are you willing to do it?

1366
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: At twenty? You know it's four they pick right? Maybe?

1367
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: I mean he's a size be guy. He's a Derrick

1368
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: Henry type. He's really improved in the receiving game too.

1369
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: But if you moved to thirty and you pick up

1370
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: a third round pick, and you know we're easy to

1371
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: be linked to the Steelers, all I can say, Uh,

1372
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 1: Chrystal Levy. Uh, the wide receiver at of Ohio State.

1373
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: Really good route runner, super productive, far and away their

1374
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: best receiver. Yeah. Christian Barmart's five. He is the six

1375
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: ft five ten pound defensive tackle, probably tackle off the board.

1376
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: He looks like a Steelers defensive end. Yes, yeah, I

1377
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: mean I bet he's long and athletic. Yeah, but he

1378
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: probably cost your first round pick. He would cost your

1379
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 1: first round pick, yeah, which I doubt there's a direction

1380
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: they go. But he can get to the quarterback. He can.

1381
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's a very multiple piece of play too. Yeah.

1382
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: They have some connections to that Bama dy line. Uh.

1383
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 1: Number four is Patrick Certain, the cornerback out of Alabama.

1384
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: I think he'll be a top ten pick. He'll be

1385
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: a top ten pick shot down six two two oh five.

1386
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: Got the NFL bloodline. They people don't throw at him

1387
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 1: very Yeah. He'll go to the combine and test on

1388
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, through the roof. He'll look great doing it,

1389
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: speaking in which so will Jalen Waddell, who is the

1390
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: number three player. He's five ten, one two. He's like

1391
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs. Yeah, crazy return or crazy speed. I think

1392
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: he played three games and is questionable for tonight, which

1393
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: probably bet he plays. But he'll go to the combine

1394
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: and round uh, assuming there is a combine this year,

1395
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: But he'll go to He'll go to the Alabama's Pro

1396
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: Day whatever it is and run a four three five.

1397
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: He may run the best forty at the combine. The

1398
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: type of guy both those those receivers are a little small,

1399
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: but burners all day long. The other one, of course,

1400
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: is Davante Smith. He's six he's six one one seven

1401
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 1: or six ft one seventy two. Um, you can project

1402
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: that out a little bit too. Maybe he gets up

1403
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: to the only bad thing anyone has to say about

1404
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: him that knows stuff is he's skinny. I don't care.

1405
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: He's superstar, right player in the country. Yeah, the comparisons

1406
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: I've heard of other skinny guys Marvin Harrison and Isaac Bruce. Okay,

1407
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: that plays in today's NFL. Alright, Uh. And then the

1408
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: number one guy in the tonight's uh game is Justin Fields,

1409
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback from Ohio State. If Ohio State is a

1410
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: chance to win this game, Justin Fields has gonna do

1411
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: what he did last game. Yeah, I mean maybe it was.

1412
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, who's to say. And he's an audition for him.

1413
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: Obviously he's six to eighteen, he's not well, he looks

1414
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: thicker than that. Yeah, he looks bigger and thicker, and

1415
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: you wonder, you wonder because he's tough. He's tough all

1416
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 1: day long. Yeah. I can't imagine him getting out of

1417
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: the top three or four. I can't either, because I

1418
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: mean I just the games that I've watched them. Even

1419
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: if the Jets don't love him, then to move back

1420
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: three spots and somebody will, I mean, somebody's gonna pay

1421
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: for that guy. Yeah, I mean I get you know,

1422
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: I get that Lawrence is the guy in this draft.

1423
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's that big of a gap

1424
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: between him and fields. Like I wouldn't be too upset

1425
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: if I'm whoever it is the Lions straight up to

1426
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: two or three, and like I will build around him. Okay, yeah, Um,

1427
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: most of years I think he goes first over. I

1428
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: think I think he's a really good player and there's

1429
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: a lot there to work with. Um. I'm looking at

1430
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus once here and they get mac

1431
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: Jones is a number two. I guess. I guess Burrow

1432
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: broke their college rankings last year. Is the best grade

1433
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: they've ever gave out. And Jones was better this year,

1434
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: but for him, again, you're working with a bunch of

1435
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: pro guys. As we saw with Burton, not the borrow.

1436
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: His bit was bad as a rookie, but he had

1437
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: better guys all around him. They were loaded. Yeah, I

1438
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: mean you're throwing to Jamaar Chase, who's gonna be the

1439
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: first receiver off the board, justin Jefferson, you know, dumping

1440
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: it off to a layer. You know, that's with with

1441
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: pro with a pro line. Evaluating those quarterbacks that difficult.

1442
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean you really need to watch every snap and

1443
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: just isolate the quarterback and sit down, what's his footwork

1444
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: look like? Yeah? How good is he on the on

1445
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: the white board? And was guys even in the SEC

1446
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that hard, he would not think so, especially

1447
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: when those those wide open guys happened to also be

1448
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: five star recruits and then the guys woking for you

1449
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: are and yeah it's nice. Is it a tougher evaluation

1450
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 1: of those guys or the small school guys who don't

1451
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: have any pros around them? Right? I think it's probably

1452
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: harder to evaluate the stars programs. I mean, I'd rather

1453
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: have a guy face adversity than the other way around.

1454
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: I think. So it's I think so it's like when

1455
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: I watched Josh Allen playing college. His skill set was like, Okay,

1456
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: this guy is a better athlete than everybody else on

1457
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: the shore, and he can he can throw the football.

1458
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: He just wondered about the accuracy because that even you know,

1459
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: at times when he was running around and doing the

1460
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: things that he did in college, he would throw in

1461
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: the run and throw high and that kind of stuff.

1462
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: But but he didn't lay down and die, you know,

1463
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: Like I remember even watching Jay Cutler. He was at

1464
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt and a smart dude playing these Bama schools with

1465
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of lawyers and accounts blocking for him, you know,

1466
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: and he you know, losing record. People held that again,

1467
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: so I'm not the color in a great career, but

1468
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: he's got a losing record. How can we draft that guy? Like,

1469
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: how do you win any games? Yeah, he's the only

1470
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: reason they want any games. I mean, they should lose

1471
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: every game. The l s U and Bama and you know, Florida.

1472
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: It's tough. You know, that's all part of the equation. Um,

1473
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: that's why the visits are so important. You got to

1474
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: sit down with these guys. That's why I'm gonna be

1475
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: interested to see what happens with this offseason in terms,

1476
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: because the scouts this year didn't get the opportunity to

1477
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: go on campus. So the Senior Bowls ago and the

1478
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: combines could be a go. We'll see. But things are

1479
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: better than they were a year ago. They are um

1480
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: actually they aren't really though, because they got to do

1481
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff last year. They got to have the combine,

1482
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: They get to have the scene before everything is shut down.

1483
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: The thing that you missed out on was the some

1484
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: of the medical rechecks and the and the on campus protas.

1485
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: That's all they missed out on. That is all they

1486
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: missed out. And they kind of looked out on that.

1487
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: And then even free agency, which we'll talk a lot

1488
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: of free agency talk, you didn't get those guys. I

1489
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: don't know this year are there gonna be on campus

1490
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: workouts at all because a lot of these colleges are

1491
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: are kind of shut down with that stuff. That's a

1492
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: good question. I don't know. Will there be pro days

1493
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: or not? I don't know virtual virtual pro Day. I

1494
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: don't trust that because we saw some of that last year.

1495
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: We saw people putting out here's here's this guy running

1496
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: and you don't know you get the bad angle on

1497
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: the camera. Yeah, well here's here's this time he ran

1498
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: a four to one. How many times we talked about

1499
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: last year this was all new to us. You mean,

1500
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: we didn't zoom every day and everything. I'm like, I

1501
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: would run four hundred forties and whatever the best one is,

1502
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm sending it. Let's get the right camera angle. You know,

1503
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: starts your stop watch just half a secondly and it's

1504
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: thirty nine yard track. Who knows, right? Yeah, you have

1505
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah, when did his back? You have no

1506
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: idea any of your stuff? And you know that's why

1507
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: I think this year it will be so much more

1508
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: important a to watch this game tape of the guys

1509
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: who have played, and there's less of that, and there's

1510
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: less of that, but you're still getting you know, in

1511
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: a situation like tonight, you're getting to see two good

1512
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: teams match up against each other. This game will carry

1513
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: a lot of importance in that regard. Oh, I think

1514
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: tonight could change second first rounder, second on the third rounder.

1515
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: That you would think that happens often, It doesn't. I mean,

1516
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: one game does not drop your fifty spot, but maybe

1517
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: it could tonight. And again we mentioned on the big stage. Yeah,

1518
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: we talked about this a lot last year and it

1519
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: really came to fruition these experience smart gore shack you know,

1520
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean like that, No, the know the people around

1521
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: the league, anybody from the Steelers organizations is listening and

1522
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: just love. Yeah. But I mean the Steelers did pretty

1523
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: well on this draft without a first round pick, and

1524
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's probably due to their connections,

1525
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, connections and knowing what you're looking for. Experience

1526
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: scouts that know you know, and can trust people and

1527
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: know where to dig up the dirt. Yeah, so that's

1528
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: what the watch for in tonight's game. He is Matt

1529
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: Williams and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive

1530
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take another break.

1531
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: We'll be back to finish up the show right after this.

1532
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

1533
01:20:46,040 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back up. DL Well that

1534
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: releases some things to uh get to here before the

1535
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 1: show ends. The Steelers did have to close the facility today.

1536
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: They had a pause. They had a positive COVID test. Um,

1537
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: so you wonder if we don't know who it is,

1538
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: they won't release They don't have to release that information now.

1539
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 1: Uh so you wonder who it was. Did that somehow

1540
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: affect somebody for that game in a negative fashion, Not

1541
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: that that explains any that we're making excuses, but to

1542
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: be something to know that, Wow, this guy and would

1543
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: find out played with covid and frankly, I hope more

1544
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: Browns don't get it because of it, or did they

1545
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: get it from the Browns yesterday? Who I mean? I

1546
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: noticed Myles Garrett was still on the sidelines a lot

1547
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: yesterday and was invisible. Doesn't get his wind back ever,

1548
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: the same explosion. It's amazing how it affects some of

1549
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: these players more than others. And I hope somebody does

1550
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: a deep dive across the league and interviews Lamar and

1551
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: Garrett and Newton, and you know, it affects different people,

1552
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: though differently, right, I mean, some people are like that

1553
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: was fine. Yeah, it seems to be for the most

1554
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: part the guys who were affected are getting the bigger guys. Yes,

1555
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 1: and it seems like more of a stamina, um, you know,

1556
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: being able to play a lot of snaps at the

1557
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: high level and boy, just get worn down easier. You

1558
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: hear a lot of those type of boats. You know,

1559
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: it took me a while to get my wind back

1560
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, But it makes sense that could

1561
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: have I mean, you know, just sitting around for two

1562
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: weeks without it, without any activity, Yeah, right right, right, Um,

1563
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: you know again to get that all the time. If

1564
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: you're a bigger, heavier guy, that's that's different. You know,

1565
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you have an arm injury,

1566
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: you can at least go work on your cardio, yeah,

1567
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: or shortagey or something like that. But if you're laid

1568
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: up with COVID, you're not lifting here doing anything. Yeah,

1569
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: You're just sitting there. So yeah, your body's gonna feel different. Absolutely.

1570
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: I think that'll be interesting this off season someone will

1571
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: do more research on that. And let's hope going back

1572
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: to our our previous conversation there about the draft that

1573
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, at some point here the NFL like, to me,

1574
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: that was the most disappointing thing of that game. You say,

1575
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: not the loss itself was disappointing, the fact that there

1576
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: were no fans allowed to be there that game was

1577
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: just because you watch other games too. I mean, there's

1578
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: nothing different in this town compared to some of the

1579
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: other ones. I mean there were a fair amount of

1580
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: fans and a lot of the venues across the country

1581
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: and some out of our hands out. I mean, I

1582
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: can moan and complain a lot. There were as many

1583
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: brown because you were allowed to have friends and family,

1584
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: you had as many Browns fans into seats as you had.

1585
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: They kept showing them. Yeah, and the announcers didn't get that.

1586
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: They were saying, well, I don't know how this guy's

1587
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: not getting They must have bought this friends and family

1588
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: because he's bakers many friends as the Sealers do, right, right,

1589
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: Because I mean, but if if that had been a

1590
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: full state or even a even if there were twelve

1591
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: thousand people in there yesterday, you don't even notice those people, right, Oh, absolutely,

1592
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: because it would have been all Steeler fans and those

1593
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 1: and those you know, a hundred and fifty Browns fans,

1594
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: and we've feel one Downans road a million times. You

1595
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: can't tell me you couldn't have put twelve thousand people

1596
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: in that big building. The state is allowing in the

1597
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: month of January, So this wouldn't have changed you know,

1598
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: even if the Steelers had had gone to the a

1599
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: f C Championship game and it was here the States

1600
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: allowing five people in in the building for Penguins games,

1601
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, the whole month of January, no rhyme a reason.

1602
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: That's frustrating. Yeah, anyway, it would have been nice. I

1603
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: just thought that, you know this, it was just such

1604
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: a different playoff atmosphere because of that. And they probably

1605
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: still lose, of course, but it would be nice to

1606
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: somebody on your side and have a home field advantage

1607
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: again you get you get into that situation where you're

1608
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: within two scores. That's what I was thinking. And now

1609
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: the place is rocking a little bit because it's you know,

1610
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: you started to feel it a little bit. And I

1611
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: mean even my my fourteen year old son's like a

1612
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: chance now, you know, like you feel you know, the

1613
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: fandom of people coming back saying this isn't over yet,

1614
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: let's go. You know. Yeah, well but it's all for

1615
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: not so hopefully next year. Um, they're back to having

1616
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: fans in the stadiums, and and that's the way sports

1617
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: were meant to be played in front of fans, that's

1618
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: what they're for. It's entertainment. I mean, if the vaccine

1619
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: is available, could it be a full building week one?

1620
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think that's too much to shoot for, right,

1621
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: I certainly hope so. But I'll tell you at this point,

1622
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: I'll take it, you know, any if you could have

1623
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: half a building for the preseason, I'd take that. Yeah,

1624
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: just any Again, it's entertainment. It's entertainment. You know, you

1625
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: can sit at home and watch these things and be entertained.

1626
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: But it's not the same, you know, you you would

1627
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: have had it. Maybe the people still did have Steeler

1628
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: playoff parties, and I'm sure they did, yeah, more so

1629
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: than they would have had they been sitting in the stadium, right, um,

1630
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: something along those lines. Just kind of a programming note.

1631
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: I thought the whole six games worked well over the weekend. Yeah,

1632
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: I like wing standpoint, and I could have done with

1633
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: some better games like the Saturday games. They to the

1634
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: NFC games were not nearly as good as ANFC, right,

1635
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the Washington was called him Washington and Chicago

1636
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: didn't belong. So maybe sevens even a certain degree that

1637
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: the Seattle l a game. It was not a good

1638
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: football game, No, it wasn't Seattle was not in a

1639
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: good spot. But and I would have liked to see

1640
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to picture it next year went home

1641
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 1: field advantage like Stewart Stadium have been rocking. The Buffalo

1642
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: a tough place to play, you know, Tennessee would have

1643
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: been different, even though they had some fans, a much

1644
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: different environment or let alone going to New Orleans. You know, yeah, Seattle.

1645
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Maybe Seattle wins that game if they other fans are

1646
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: makes a difference. It does, um yeah, But but I

1647
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: like the format all in all, I did too, and

1648
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it'll be a good

1649
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: thing for the league once again once they get the

1650
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: fans back in the stay at ms. But did you

1651
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: pick up a couple extra bucks too towards the cap?

1652
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,440
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of the game on the Nickelodeon

1653
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: a little bit? Yeah? You funny. We watched at the beginning,

1654
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: and then I couldn't tolerate it anymore. The Nate Burlson on,

1655
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: who was like the expert. They had a woman who

1656
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't remember her name, and I had never heard of,

1657
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: but I guess she's somebody in Nickelodeon world who had

1658
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 1: never been to a football game in her life and

1659
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: didn't know a thing, so Burlson was explaining to her,

1660
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: but it was cool. She kind of was the like

1661
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: I sent my sister attack, So I'm like, tell my

1662
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: nephew to turn on Nickelodeon. He's like seven, he's starting

1663
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: to get into football a little bit. And and so

1664
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: they basically explained like the first right before the game

1665
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: and started there, like a touchdown is worst six points,

1666
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: an extra point is worth one. Even the girl the

1667
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: first punt, they're like, you're gonna like what happens here

1668
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: snapping back the putter and he kicked it. Like so

1669
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: that was so basic, you know. I mean it was

1670
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: geared towards like five and six year old, but you know,

1671
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: the big slime thing happened in the end zone when

1672
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: they scored. It's worth the shot. Yeah, they just didn't

1673
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: score enough. I guess a an F bomb or something

1674
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: snuck through to Nickelodeon. I was curious how they'd handled

1675
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: like injuries or what if it's a bad injury, would

1676
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: they But it was interesting. That reminds me of when

1677
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: when the Steelers went to Barcelona and they played, uh,

1678
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: they played the forty niners over there, so the Steelers

1679
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: in ninety three. You got a bunch of Hall of

1680
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: famers in the field. The Niners you have even more

1681
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Hall of famers on the field, and they came out

1682
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: for a joint practice that first day. Maybe it's the

1683
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: second name might have been the first day. I think

1684
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I'd love. We flew overnight Stars stars everywhere, and there's

1685
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,440
Speaker 1: fans there from this from you know, the Native Barcelonians

1686
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: or whatever you uh, Spanish um. And the only guys

1687
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: that they watched and cheered were the kickers because because

1688
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 1: they understood that, you know, it's every time the kickers

1689
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 1: would kick the ball, you know, Gary and would kick

1690
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: the football and you know, Mark Royles would punt. I

1691
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: grew up playing soccer, like I think you try and

1692
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: putting through those. Yeah, so it was it was kind

1693
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: of a funny thing. I'm watching. But Rob Woodson's covering

1694
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice right there, Steve Young. Yeah, interesting, that makes sense.

1695
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: But now the whole Nickelodeon thing cool, you know whatever,

1696
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't very informative for us, you know,

1697
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm not sure they kept you like, well

1698
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: they're in eleven personnel or they don't tell you anything

1699
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: that you learn. But you know, it was interesting. But

1700
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: they didn't have SpongeBob narrating the he wasn't. I didn't

1701
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: tune in long. I don't think he made an appearance,

1702
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: but he was in the pregame show. Okay, well I was.

1703
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I was doing pregame radio myself at that point. I

1704
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: was just kind of watching that game. You didn't miss

1705
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: a lot. But I think it's an interesting experiment and

1706
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: maybe some kids that would tune in that wouldn't know

1707
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: if you know, we're not ready to finish up the

1708
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: show here, so man, I just wanted to get your

1709
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: thoughts on the season as a whole. They start eleven

1710
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: and oh uh, they was for their last five in

1711
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 1: the in the regular season and then bow out in

1712
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs. How do you how

1713
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: do you view this season as a whole? I mean,

1714
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: just on paper, it was better than I expected, you

1715
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean in terms of winning the division,

1716
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: and you know, their overall record, you have to say

1717
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: disappointing because at one point you were eleven. I know, yeah,

1718
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe they were a little inflated as

1719
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: an eleven O team, but you know, I mean that

1720
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: goes back to what we talked about in the preseason

1721
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: and before they even started. The teams that had more continuity,

1722
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: we're going to do better early in the year. And

1723
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I thought that that happened. To me. The thing that

1724
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: didn't happen, I thought they peaked too early. Probably. I

1725
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: thought they peaked in that that that Cleveland, Tennessee Baltimore

1726
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: run at mid season, and then from there kind of

1727
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: they kind of went downhill after that a little bit.

1728
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: That probably was their best football. Yeah, And I think

1729
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to monitor, but it's something that

1730
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: I think Tomlin needs to certainly cat is. There was

1731
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: a stretch and Steeler history where I thought they were

1732
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: often peaking going into the play. They often would start

1733
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: slowly and people complain about it, and then when they

1734
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: get to December, it's you know, they they get the

1735
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: foot on the peal, rolling and running, the balled on

1736
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: people's throats and they figured out who they are. You know,

1737
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 1: they weren't super physical the last month of the season.

1738
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Now in the trenches, the way they tackle. Um, does

1739
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 1: that come back to conditioning? Is it just a COVID year?

1740
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean a lot of things I

1741
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 1: think you gotta throw out because of the COVID year,

1742
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 1: And that's not an excuse at all for how they finished.

1743
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: But it is an odd year to be a coacher player. Yeah,

1744
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: it was difficult for all of them. It was difficult

1745
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: for us who cover them. You know, it was just

1746
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: a different year altogether. Uh. Much like I can't wait

1747
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: to see fans back in the stadium next year, I

1748
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,719
Speaker 1: can't wait to actually be in the locker room talking

1749
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: to guys, going to camp and fit, you know, watching

1750
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: these guys perform on a regulation. I was at camp

1751
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: this year, but it wasn't the same. I'm sitting in

1752
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: the stands watching watching guys practice. You can't be down

1753
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: there hearing, you know, what's being the instructions that are

1754
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: being given and what are they what are they being

1755
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: coached up to do? And you learn so much in

1756
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: those situations the hillside of fans. Yeah, you and I

1757
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: broadcasting live next to the fans everywhere and practices going on.

1758
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: I can go around individual drills and watch this and

1759
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: watch that, and you know, you don't have those guys

1760
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: just didn't have that that interaction that takes place or

1761
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: talking to guys one on one. You know, so what

1762
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: are you looking for when you do this? And it's

1763
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: just the little things that you learn in those situations.

1764
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: Um really made me miss that stuff. I can't. I mean,

1765
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I bet next time you could get

1766
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: a chance to really talk a little candidly with coaches,

1767
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: they've probably have been like, man, we really wanted to

1768
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: install this in the second preseason. That's the other part

1769
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: of the equation, either that that you know, somebody asked

1770
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: me about mc cannada, mc canada be the offensive coordinator,

1771
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, like, I don't know, I've never

1772
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 1: sat down and talk to the guy. You know, we

1773
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 1: we talked to him once on a zoom call. That's

1774
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: not enough to give me any insight into what kind

1775
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 1: of coach he is, how he feels about certain situations.

1776
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a conversation that I have to have

1777
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: sitting down or standing there, you know, outside the lunch

1778
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: room and at Saint Vincent College and having that conversation,

1779
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't ascertain that from far that gives

1780
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: me the same view of this is that you do

1781
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: as a fan, and maybe next year season you'll hear

1782
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs advanced McDonald and yeah, big hour whoever just saying, boy,

1783
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: this guy really knows the stuff, you know, dud, just

1784
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: some things that just fall out of normal conversation or

1785
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: being around them. Yeah, you're giving everything cut and dry.

1786
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard. It was, it was. It was

1787
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: a difficult year. It was you know, the Steelers made

1788
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: it through. I thought they provided some good entertainment for

1789
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, yeah right all right. I mean if you

1790
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: didn't enjoy this season for what it was, um, I

1791
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. Yeah, I mean, I

1792
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: mean I worry that this is a crossroad and we'll

1793
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: talk to so much about that, and every off season

1794
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: is hard to focus and this groups don't there's nothing

1795
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: ever stays the same. You know, it doesn't matter, Uh,

1796
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: you know how many guys you have in a contract there,

1797
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean there there will be turnover off of this

1798
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: team again, nineteen unrestrictive free agents. They'll be coaches who

1799
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: won't come back, whether it be you through retirement or

1800
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. That happens every single year. What

1801
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: are they gonna do without live Bell? What they gonna

1802
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: do without anything with Brown? You know, like we've been

1803
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: down this road. I mean it happens every year. Ye so,

1804
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: but that's gonna do it for our show today. We'll

1805
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 1: be back again tomorrow see what happens then. But for

1806
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: my partner here Matt Williamson for Jacob here on site

1807
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lally. We thank

1808
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio