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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon, Heat Live from the

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Speaker 1: tirec to Dotcom Studios, where I'll tell you what not

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Speaker 1: the greatest last four days for the Dodgers swept by

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Speaker 1: the Angels for about the Mets since I think since

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Speaker 1: since Bobolinsky was pitching for the Angels, that's a good

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Speaker 1: at Pete A Lonzo would be an improvement for you.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of nights. Right now, middle of the

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Speaker 1: third inning, the Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers seven to nothing.

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Speaker 1: Landon Nak has come in and given up four runs

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Speaker 1: in an inning. I think Keike Hernandez might be into

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Speaker 1: pitch him and his helmet might be in the pitchinghead night.

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Speaker 1: It's a good look at Bobblehead too. You know the

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Speaker 1: last time a position player came into a game this

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Speaker 1: early to pitch, I remember, back, this whole game is fertilizer.

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Speaker 1: That's right when I said that.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, they're going through a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff right now, guys, Okay, Taylor and Barnes long standing

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Speaker 3: guys out man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got a lot of stuff going on here. Yeah, no, NoDEA.

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Speaker 1: It's like me dealing with the Knicks in the East Finals,

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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes in the Eastern Finals, the Mets in first place.

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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with a lot of stuff. Dodger fans dealing

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Speaker 3: It's a long, long road, right twenty nine and eighteen

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Speaker 3: on the year, great start to things and then that

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Speaker 3: seven game winning streak, but otherwise a whole lot of inconsistency, chaos,

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Speaker 3: pitcher injuries. But Clayton Kershaw's back for the moment, so

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Speaker 3: that's good. Yeah, yeah, prop you strikeouts closer to three thousand, you.

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Speaker 1: Think you think they could have waited a day or

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Speaker 1: two to let Austin Barnes catch him once before they

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Speaker 1: decided to move on. They could have done that. They

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Speaker 1: could have said Hey, all right, a couple of games,

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys. Well, let's just say one more game.

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Speaker 1: Then you get used to things. Okay, Clayton, is something's

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Speaker 1: going now. They said it's a new world order. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is this is how we do things in Cleveland. Now, Billy,

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Speaker 1: I don't know this is how we do it though.

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Speaker 1: So again, seven to nothing, Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers bottom

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Speaker 1: of the thirty and the Doctors can lose four in

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Speaker 1: a row after getting swept by the Angels.

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Speaker 3: You seem a little too gleeful on that. I'm not

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Speaker 3: really lucky there. He'd come and take you out.

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Speaker 1: No, no, read. The only reason I'd be somewhat gleefles

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Speaker 1: is because, well, okay, this is gonna take the attention away.

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Speaker 1: You look, the Mets lost two out of three. Juan

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Speaker 1: Soto's not hustling. At least they'll take it away from

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Speaker 1: that boy. The Dodgers looking like Frank and the Shield. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that contract is coming back down for pen ALNSA was

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Speaker 1: going up. Now it's coming back down, going up, coming

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Speaker 1: back down, going up. Pays have a way of working

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Speaker 1: themselves out.

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Speaker 4: How much would you pay the Rockies tonight.

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Speaker 1: Smith. I Uh, as far as you know, I did

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Speaker 1: not pay them anything because they were winning and now

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Speaker 1: they're losing. So it was you. Yes, it backfired a lot,

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Speaker 1: and now the Mets are going to be out of

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We're going to be trailing the Phillies now,

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Speaker 1: the Phillies who lose one series to the Mets and

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Speaker 1: it's the end of the world. But yet somehow they

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Speaker 1: find their way back from the brink every single time,

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Speaker 1: which I gotta say that that's a that I do.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. From Philadelphia sports teams. No team

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Speaker 1: goes from the season is over. Everybody has quit. We

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Speaker 1: need to fire everybody and then go on to win

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Speaker 1: things like the super Bowl or the National League East.

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Speaker 1: Better than Philadelphia, nobody goes from this is the worst.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, hey, Mets fans, certain teams, you live

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Speaker 1: it right. The Eagles were at that point, seemingly every

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Speaker 1: three weeks they won the Super Bowl last year, Nick

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Speaker 1: Siriotti got paid right Philly, same way they got swept

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Speaker 3: I mean they are the equivalent of the eighties era

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Speaker 3: hulk Mania. Not the guy everybody hates now, but the

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Speaker 3: guy that once upon a time was hanging and banging

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia sports for you, much to your sugarn now TJ.

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Speaker 3: Not the only angels having a great weekend or a

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Speaker 3: bad weekend. The yin and yang for sports Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 3: and Angel Reese.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say this. You

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Speaker 1: thought I was lying. You thought I was being a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much when I told you before the

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Speaker 1: WNBA season began. You thought last year the Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: hate and this story was gonna You thought, Okay, now

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Speaker 1: things will, things will calm down a little bit. What

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Speaker 1: I tell you, it's gonna be last year on steroids.

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Speaker 1: And already the Caitlyn Clark Angel Reese foul from the

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Speaker 1: opening game of the WNBA season for both teams on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: where the fever just boat raced the sky ninety three

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Speaker 1: fifty eight. Do you look like they should be on

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Speaker 1: the same court with each other. But the foul that

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark committed on Angel Reese stopping a guaranteed basket

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Speaker 1: sports of the last forty eight hours. Now. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of angles to it as well. There's a flagrant

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Speaker 1: foul angle. There's the racist comments that have been thrown

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Speaker 1: out there, allegedly that the WNBA is looking into that.

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Speaker 1: Some people on social media said they heard some things

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Speaker 1: said at the game directed towards Angel Reese. But the

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Speaker 1: best thing to do with this is to start at

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Speaker 1: the beginning, right, Let's start at the beginning of this.

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Speaker 1: This play, this foul by Caitlyn Clark on Angel Reese.

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Speaker 1: The play, Yes, it is incredibly overblown by Angel Reese. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why, now, this is a little bit

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Speaker 1: different than stuff you've heard. The reason why is because

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark lives rent free in Angel Reese's head, rent

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Speaker 1: free in Angel Reese's head. And here's a game where

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Speaker 1: you know, all of Angel Reese's career has been built

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Speaker 1: on her rivalry with Caitlin Clark. Everything has and generally

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Speaker 1: she has lost to Caitlyn Clark everywhere. Yes, LSU won

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Speaker 1: and won the national championship in college, but Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: was the better player in college. She is more talented,

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Speaker 1: she's a better player in the WNBA. She is more popular,

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Speaker 1: she is more relevant, she's the show. She's it, and

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Speaker 1: it's not Angel Reese, who still thinks that she should

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Speaker 1: popular too. It and Angel Reese is popular in the Star.

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Speaker 1: She's not Caitlyn Clark. But this rivalry, this play stands

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Speaker 1: for the rivalry because it was a basketball play. It's

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Speaker 1: not like Caitlyn Clark went up around Angel Reese's neck

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Speaker 1: and hit her in the head. She didn't take out

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Speaker 1: her legs from under her. She just put her arms

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Speaker 1: Reaes tried to flop and she fell down and was

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Speaker 1: embarrassed so got up like she wanted to fight Caitlyn Clark. Right,

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Speaker 1: all of this is coming to a head in this moment. Right,

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Speaker 1: She's embarrassed because she's getting worked by Caitlyn Clark and

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Speaker 1: the fever. And here's a play where Katelyn Clark is

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Speaker 1: showing you thought I was big last year, Look how

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Speaker 1: strong I am now I'll knock your ass to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Just trying to make a normal play on the ball.

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Speaker 1: So she flops a little bit, she falls, she's embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: of that. But this is because Caitlyn Clark lives rent

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Speaker 1: free in Angel Reese's head. She's asked about stuff now

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Speaker 1: comments a Angel Reese's mate. No, don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Don't want to talk about it. Hey, you

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Speaker 1: said last year you were as big a part. Nope,

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it. Hey what about this

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Speaker 1: play with Angelies? No and with Kateln Clark. No, no, nope,

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Speaker 1: don't talk about no, no, no basketball play. Let's move on, right.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody really think these two are really cool with

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Speaker 1: Angel Reese is not. What happened in college is irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: This play stands for everything in the WNBA. Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: commits a foul so Angel Reese won't get a basket.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, a foul that she would

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Speaker 1: have never gotten last year about flagrant that would have

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Speaker 1: never been good if they that happened to Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: last year. There's no way she's getting that flagrant foul upgraded.

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Speaker 1: make it a flagrant. Nah, I'm sorry, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you make it a flagrant. That's not a flagrant foul.

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Speaker 1: If there was something, if Angel Reese's health was at stake,

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Speaker 1: which is what you look at for flagrant fouls, right, hey,

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Speaker 1: was the health of this player put at risk? Nowhere

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Speaker 1: would that happen, not anywhere. It's a basketball play. It

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have been a flagrant foul. But this is why,

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Speaker 1: this is why this exists, because this is Caitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: just is overwhelming to all the players, but specifically Angel Reese,

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Speaker 1: who thought, I'm coming in and it's me too. It's

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Speaker 1: meat to me, it's me. It's now, it's not really.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the stars. And Asia Wilson is a

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Speaker 1: big star, and Brettyanna Stewart's a big star. That's all

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Speaker 1: big stars. Kaitlyn Clark is the show. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many times I gotta say it, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but that's the way it goes. And so to see that,

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Speaker 1: that aura of Caitlyn Clark, that Robbie probably lives rent

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Speaker 1: level is still there for her coming in and getting

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Speaker 1: all these things, the w NBA and making money. Okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: where where's mine? Where's mine? Sorry, it's not how it works, right,

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Speaker 1: So this is this is why it happened the way

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Speaker 1: it did, why it unfolded. It was their relationship and

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Speaker 1: and the situation that exists between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese.

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Speaker 1: In one play on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: get more sponsors and brands on board, I don't think

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Speaker 3: it dissuades people all together, but it certainly makes it

426
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Speaker 3: a much more difficult proposition. If you can't find source,

427
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Speaker 3: If that exists or figure out how to prevent reoccurrences,

428
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Speaker 3: because right now you're just hitting a place where I mean, look,

429
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Speaker 3: it was a Saturday afternoon standalone, right and nothing else

430
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Speaker 3: against it. You have some Major League Baseball games at all,

431
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: but you had massive ratings. Hell, I was watching the

432
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: game earlier tonight Seattle and Minnesota with Page Beckers, etc.

433
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: You've got crowds when people coming out and droves. The

434
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Speaker 3: last thing you want is something that hangs over casting

435
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Speaker 3: a Paul and getting all your big thought columnists on

436
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Speaker 3: that side of it.

437
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Speaker 1: Instead of the play exit, how about a Fresco exit

438
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Speaker 1: swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Locke from the Fox

439
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: Sports Radio studio. So we'll continue to follow this story obviously,

440
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: but another thing today, let's just get to this for

441
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Speaker 1: everybody who says, oh, yeah, no, I don't know that

442
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: the NBA draft lottery could be fixed. Shaquille O'Neil did

443
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Speaker 1: a podcast today in which he was asked about the

444
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Speaker 1: story of his draft lottery back when he came into

445
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Speaker 1: the league way way back in nineteen ninety two, which

446
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Speaker 1: I think was many people think that's the same year

447
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Speaker 1: the Black Sox fixed the world series. Yes, same year,

448
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, here was Shaquille O'Neill's story about the

449
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Speaker 1: ninety two NBA draft lottery about how maybe he came

450
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Speaker 1: to be taken number one overall by the Orlando Magic.

451
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Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety two. I think the draft was in

452
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Speaker 5: in June. Was on the I meet mister Stearn in

453
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Speaker 5: March and he said to me, I know you are

454
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Speaker 5: can't wait for you to come to the NBA. Then

455
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Speaker 5: he pulled into this, how you want to play where

456
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 5: it's cold or it's hot? He asked me that, Yeah,

457
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 5: he did. He asked me that, and I was like hot,

458
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 5: and he smiled and I smiled. And then a couple

459
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Speaker 5: of days later they had the draft thing and you

460
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Speaker 5: know the top three things that that Minnesota was number three.

461
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Speaker 5: I was, and hey, Charlotte was number two. In the Orlando,

462
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Speaker 5: Florida it was number one house.

463
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Speaker 1: So that's on Ashley Neville's podcast. Do you want to

464
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Speaker 1: play where it's warm? I'll leave the surfer ski well,

465
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Speaker 1: anyway surfing, It'll be Denver or San Diego trading up

466
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Speaker 1: to get him. Where do you want to close? It

467
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Speaker 1: was the temperature of the envelope. Yeah, We've had some

468
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Speaker 1: great success, Shack, you know with cold and hot things. Right,

469
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Speaker 1: we got Patrick Ewing to the Knicks. So here's Shack saying, hey,

470
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Speaker 1: David Stern said, hey, you want to play where it's

471
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Speaker 1: the water, where it's cold tuna. Orlando Magic win your

472
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Speaker 1: draft lottery in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 3: What's funny though, Jason, as you go back in time,

474
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Speaker 3: you look at the list, right, so it's Orlando, Charlotte, Minnesota, Dallas, Denver, Washington.

475
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: Still the Bullets gets drafted there, Uh, Sacramento, Milwaukee, Philadelphia,

476
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: a lot of cold cities that it could have been.

477
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but hey, you want to play where

478
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Speaker 1: it's Hey, we'll give you that hot team number one overall,

479
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Speaker 1: Orlando Magic. Right. There's two big takes out of this.

480
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Speaker 1: One is this is for the crowd who said, oh yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: I could see where in the past you could fix

482
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Speaker 1: the NBA draft line, but you can't do it now.

483
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: Oh wait wait wait, So so you could fix it

484
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Speaker 1: back then, but you can't fix it now. You mean

485
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Speaker 1: you'd stop fixing the draft the lottery after you've had

486
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Speaker 1: all this success getting players to where they want to go,

487
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: getting them to big markets, helping them replace players. We

488
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Speaker 1: can't do it now. We could do it in the past,

489
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Speaker 1: we can't. Come on, man, you don't stop that. You

490
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Speaker 1: only stop it if you get caught Spygate. You only

491
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Speaker 1: stop doing that if somebody says, hey, what's that guy

492
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Speaker 1: doing that video camera? So, of course you could still

493
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Speaker 1: do it now. If you fixed it then, you could

494
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Speaker 1: fix it now. You could still find a way to

495
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Speaker 1: do it, you know. For you know, I I feel

496
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Speaker 1: like so many people want to go halfway in and

497
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Speaker 1: say that yeah, I could see maybe in the past,

498
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Speaker 1: but not now. I don't want to seem completely out

499
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Speaker 1: of touch and say they could never do it. So

500
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Speaker 1: I'll say they could do it then, but they can't

501
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Speaker 1: do it. No, you could do it then, you could

502
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Speaker 1: do it now. Oh but I'm in the room now,

503
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Speaker 1: I don't see it all right, Because that's they would

504
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Speaker 1: do is they would fix it while you were in

505
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Speaker 1: the room watching. That's what they would do is try

506
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Speaker 1: to fit not do it before everything came out in

507
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Speaker 1: front of everybody. They'd fix it when reporters are in

508
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Speaker 1: the room, just before they draw them. That that's when

509
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Speaker 1: they would do it. I mean, come on, man, if

510
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Speaker 1: they if they fixed it, back then, I say, if

511
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Speaker 1: they they could fix it now. So that's the first thing.

512
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Speaker 1: Just stop with that. And here's Shack adding more. There's

513
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Speaker 1: so much fuel added to this fire. How much smoke

514
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Speaker 1: do you need before? Like, how do you defend this?

515
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Speaker 1: If you're Adam Silver? How can you keep saying these

516
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Speaker 1: teams with a smaller percentage chance, these big teams that

517
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Speaker 1: lose players. How can you say that? How can you

518
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Speaker 1: sit back and say, yeah, everything's legit. I don't know

519
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Speaker 1: what you want me to tell you, Like, I really

520
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: you kind of need to address this because it's this

521
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Speaker 1: is the tipping point. It's not going away. I get

522
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Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about it, but you're the commissioner.

523
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: You wanted to be the commission You kind of have

524
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Speaker 1: to address this thing.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's as we talked about when this all

526
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Speaker 3: went down last week. Right, the folks that just want

527
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Speaker 3: to jump up and down and shout I've been in

528
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Speaker 3: the room multiple times, Well then maybe you got got okay.

529
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Speaker 1: Back in nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Ninety seven, there was a series of shows on Fox

531
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Speaker 3: breaking the Magician's Code, the NFNBA Draft Lottery's biggest secrets. Finally,

532
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry magic's biggest secrets finally revealed with

533
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: the mask guy, and he showed you how all the

534
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: master of illusion work is done. Tell me you can't

535
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: find a guy that can do sleight of hand and

536
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Speaker 3: fool you in a draft lottery scenario. And anybody that

537
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: wants to say, but they have an accounting firm that

538
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: puts their name on it, Yes, because accounting firms have

539
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: never gotten in trouble for anything at all, completely spotless

540
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Speaker 3: records across what do we do, like bending over backwards,

541
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Speaker 3: like yes, is it hard?

542
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: Sure?

543
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Speaker 3: Just like with the forty years of draft history going

544
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Speaker 3: back to youing, it just so happens that every time

545
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: there's that can't miss guy, that generational guy, the team

546
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: that is most in need, or where it would be

547
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: behoove the league for that guy to find his way

548
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: into that uniform, that it accidentally happens. Look, we got

549
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories of a million things I'm supposed to say, no, no, no,

550
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: that I can't possibly happen. It's like anything you're saying,

551
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: there's a chance, right, just like the one point eight

552
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: percent chance. Everybody's like, if you take a basic statistics class,

553
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: one point eight percent, Yes, I get it. You're saying

554
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: there's a chance just like this. I never say never

555
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: on anything, right, I've seen enough in my years on

556
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Speaker 3: this planet to shrug and go yeah, well yeah, okay,

557
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: there you go, politicssities all the way through professional sports

558
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: whatever else. How about all those years that everybody said

559
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: nothing was going on in baseball? His guys look like

560
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: they got the super seer him like Chris evans uh

561
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Speaker 3: in the First Avenger.

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Speaker 1: Nah, nothing to see here? Well if they hoodwink does,

563
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: clearly we're no. You were right there in the room.

564
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: You claim you didn't see that. But the draft lottery's

565
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: gonna be too hard to fix. You all need to

566
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Speaker 1: get all over yourself. No, we can't do it. We

567
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: get that. No, of course you can, and we keep here.

568
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: It's not like we get stories like we've never hear.

569
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Speaker 1: I guess, yes, it's hard to prove a negative, but

570
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: we don't get stories about how. Oh yeah, well, here

571
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Speaker 1: here's why it is. Here's why you can't fix the draft.

572
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, here's how you can't do I mean,

573
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: you have to understand that it's out there and you

574
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: have to address it. If you're Adam Silver, you can't

575
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Speaker 1: just let this go because it's taken on a life

576
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Speaker 1: of its own. He will and eventually, I know he

577
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: doesn't like to do. Oh, this is not gonna help me.

578
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: It's not gonna help me. I just want to sit

579
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Speaker 1: and look at.

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Speaker 3: Mine really happy that the Knicks are in the Eastern

581
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Speaker 3: Conference finals. We care for were exciting teams. Zero championships

582
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Speaker 3: for three of them. And then he and then he

583
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: does a little dance.

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Speaker 1: Can't we just do that? Uh? Now, I will have

585
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Speaker 1: for you a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory coming

586
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: up on this time. How about that? Right? I got

587
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory on a conspiracy theory on the NBA

588
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Speaker 1: Draft lottery. I have that again. I'm playing chess while

589
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Speaker 1: everybody else is playing checkers. That that's how it goes. Uh.

590
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: But before we get to that time not to find

591
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Speaker 1: out what's trending in the wide world of sports. But

592
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Speaker 1: guy who has been called the deep Blue of Fox

593
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, he's a machine that will beat anybody in chess.

594
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Speaker 1: It is Steve de Seger deep Blue.

595
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Speaker 4: Right, what is the name of the computer that that

596
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: played Jeopardy and beat everybody at Jeopardy?

597
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: That type of.

598
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Speaker 1: Thing oh, hang on can wats Yeah, okay.

599
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah exactly, or or Ken Jennings.

600
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Speaker 1: I believe that's another computer that did pretty well too,

601
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Speaker 1: Watson Watson one of the special three day competition in

602
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Speaker 1: twenty eleven against Ken Jennings and Brad Rudders.

603
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Speaker 4: Ah, there you go, so beat the best.

604
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, how did Watson buzz in? Though? Like, that's

605
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: gotta be a that's got it, because they all say

606
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you have to master the buzzer, right, you have to

607
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: take time. That's the unfair part.

608
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, his magnifying glass. It's like the whole daily fantasy scam. Well,

609
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Speaker 4: I guess if your algorithm could make fifty two different lineups?

610
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

611
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: Sure, all right. We all got three ball games still

612
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Speaker 4: going in the major leagues. It's the Royals now up

613
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Speaker 4: two nothing at the Giants at the top of the eighth.

614
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Speaker 4: Diamondbacks lead seven to one at the Dodgers bottom of

615
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Speaker 4: the fifth, one hit for La Mookie Bets home run.

616
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Speaker 4: Angels lead at the A's four to two in the

617
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Speaker 4: bottom of the fifth. The Phillies record is now twenty

618
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Speaker 4: nine and eighteen. Dodgers currently are twenty nine and eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Phillies won at Colorado nine to three in a comeback.

620
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Speaker 4: Rockies had led three to one going to the seventh inning.

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Speaker 1: The Rockies to.

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Speaker 4: Start the night, We're already twenty and a half games

623
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Speaker 4: out in the division. Seattle got a grand slam in

624
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Speaker 4: the eighth from Julio Rodriguez and one at the White

625
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Speaker 4: Sox five to one. White Sox have lost five in

626
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Speaker 4: a row. The win to Luis Castillo with seven scoreless innings.

627
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: Milwaukee sent Baltimore to a seventh straight loss, five to

628
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Speaker 4: four with a run in the bottom of the eighth.

629
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Speaker 4: Cleveland at Minnesota suspended by rain after three innings. It'll continue,

630
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: they hope tomorrow, weather permitting. Saint Louis eleven to four

631
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Speaker 4: over Detroit. The win to Sunny Graves five and one.

632
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: He threw six scoreless innings with ten strikeouts. Houston won

633
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: four to three at Tampa Bay. Boston over the Mets

634
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: three to one. The Reds won their fifth straight games

635
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: seven to one at Pittsburgh Nick Lodolo. The wins six innings,

636
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: seven strikeouts, and Miami scored two runs at the bottom

637
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Speaker 4: of the ninth to beat the Cubs eight to seven.

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Speaker 4: Despite a home run from the Cubs catcher Miguel Amaya.

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Speaker 4: He had five RBIs. The Philadelphia Eagles gave coach Nick

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Speaker 4: Sirianni a contract extension. The forty nine Ers gave linebacker

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Speaker 4: signed his rookie contract. This year's usc Notre Dame game

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Speaker 4: the WNBA Tonight one game, Seattle a winner at Dallas

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Speaker 4: seventy nine to seventy one. Necka Gwoomackay with twenty three

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Speaker 4: points eighteen rebounds for the losing side. Reque Goonbawala, of course,

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Speaker 4: just kept shooting, shooting two for fourteen from the floor

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Speaker 4: and eight points in this defeat. Rookie Page Beckers had

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon

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Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We'll have more

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Speaker 1: basketball on the well, just think about that conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: on a conspiracy. I'll have that coming up. And straight ahead,

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Speaker 1: we are less than twenty four hours away from the

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Speaker 1: NBA playoffs resuming Oklahoma City and Minnesota. Who's going to

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Speaker 1: the finals. It's about one player, who that is? And

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Speaker 1: who's going coming up next? Right here, Jason to Mike,

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Speaker 1: give you that I'm really excited about to have a

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. All right, Now, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a hint. It's about the NBA Draft lottery.

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Speaker 1: We talked about a few minutes ago because Shaq had

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Speaker 1: his big podcast day where he said, right before the lottery,

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Speaker 1: David Stern said, where do you want to play? Where

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Speaker 1: it's warm? Where it's cold? And then the magic got

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Speaker 1: the number one pick. But I have a conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: on a conspiracy theory, and you're gonna love it. Well,

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Speaker 1: we already know the next cheat of you. No, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about nineteen eighty five. I'm talking about now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about thirty five years ago. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about now. We're good now, man, We're in the final four.

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Speaker 1: We're here, We're here, so get ready cheating. I wish

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Speaker 1: again we did not cheat, Mary mack u no cheating,

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Speaker 1: no cheating. And even if we did, even if we

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Speaker 1: did cheat to get youwing, we stunk for the better

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Speaker 1: part of two decades. Our if we did, our penance

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Speaker 1: is over, whatever it is for you. We paid our

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Speaker 1: debt to society. We have moved on. Sounds like what

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Speaker 1: we went through. Isaiah Thomas, Okay, if that that's what that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was the Yeah, that was the penalty we had

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Speaker 1: to pay. So that's what it was. We had Isaiah Thomas. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now we moved on, right, we had Isaiah. It's good.

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Speaker 1: We went through all that and all good. Uh now again,

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory on a conspiracy theory coming up in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes. But we are set for the NBA the

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Speaker 1: NHL to resume tomorrow night. Thankfully. I feel weird like

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Speaker 1: we got no hockey, we got no basketball, that we

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Speaker 1: got anything. Uh but Western Conference Finals begins tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: five thirty pm Pacific time, Minnesota and Oklahoma City. Where

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Speaker 1: am I going for this pick? This is what I

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Speaker 1: initially picked? That this is what I picked the Western

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Speaker 1: Conference Finals to be last year. Before the playoffs started,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm so close. Oh

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Speaker 1: I was so close. Here we are now the two

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Speaker 1: best young teams in the Western Conference. The Timberwolves clearly

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00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: figured things out over the course of the year. A

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00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: different mix now because it was Karl Anthony Town's gone

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Speaker 1: and Julius Randol and Dante Evincenzo in. They didn't quite

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Speaker 1: achieve in the regular season like we thought they were

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Speaker 1: going to, but boy, they hit the playoffs in a

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Speaker 1: big way, two big eliminations. Going into this series with

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Speaker 1: the Thunder who ran roughshod over the rest of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Oklahoma City over Minnesota in six for a

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00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: couple of reasons, but mainly, and I'll give you that.

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Speaker 1: The minor one is I like the thunders defense a

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00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: little bit more than Minnesota's, right, The consistency of the

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Speaker 1: Thunders defense I like a little bit more. Look, they

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Speaker 1: put Caruso on Jokichen Game seven, and my goodness, did

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Speaker 1: that work like that? Like that's not something he would

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Speaker 1: think to be. That's something dialed up in a lab.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put Caruso on you wait what oh wait,

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Speaker 1: and he fronted him, didn't let him get the basketball

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Speaker 1: where he was where he was used to doing. It

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Speaker 1: made him uncomfortable, Like I really like what the Thunder

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Speaker 1: defense can do. But mainly I come down to this, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I am more confident that I am going to get

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Speaker 1: a consistently great playoff series from Shay Gilders Alexander than

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Speaker 1: I am from Ann Edwards. Edwards, as great as he is,

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Speaker 1: still has that pension or tendency to disappear a bit,

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Speaker 1: still has that pension or tendency to not quite lead.

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Speaker 1: How the Tea Wulves want to remember was just the ten

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Speaker 1: days ago where Chris Finch was like, hey, I needed

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Speaker 1: more out of Anthony Edwards. Anthony, did you need to

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Speaker 1: play harder? No? No, I thought I played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, But he's still he's not quite he does.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't quite have that leadership that get on my back.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that every game showing up to kill

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Speaker 1: you like I get from SGA. Right, it's just a

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Speaker 1: and it's a subtle thing. But when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the two best players in this series, that that are

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Speaker 1: two of the best young players in the game, and

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Speaker 1: SGA is gonna win the m v P this year.

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Speaker 1: Edwards will win one at some point. I'm sure these

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Speaker 1: guys are both, you know, I'm well on the right

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Speaker 1: side of thirty. They're gonna help carry the league for

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Speaker 1: a long time. I am more confidence in the overall

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Speaker 1: consistency over the course of what could be a seven

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Speaker 1: game series in SGA than I am with Edwards. I

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Speaker 1: can't see that to a degree.

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Speaker 3: Sure, some of the passivity at times from Edwards, you know,

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Speaker 3: the wait for the game to come to you kind

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Speaker 3: of moments. I could see that for you pick the

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Speaker 3: Wolves before we started this playoff run, so I can't

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Speaker 3: back away from them now.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna stick with them, man stick.

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Speaker 3: You know, I love my guys, Chet and Dort and

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Speaker 3: the whole nine yards and what they bring to the table,

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Speaker 3: and and Chet's walking double double double double. But you know,

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Speaker 3: your SGA ant thing is certainly relevant. It'll be a

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Speaker 3: curiosity of which wing defenders really come to bear. Not

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Speaker 3: on the defensive end, because I think we get great

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Speaker 3: effort there, but who where's your scoring coming from?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Where where are the secondary players going to make their impact?

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Speaker 3: You know, is this one where where go beart is

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Speaker 3: a bigger deal. You know that, that kind of situational basketball.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I picked the Wolves before it. I've got

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Speaker 3: to stay with it. I'll be I'll use the cheat

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Speaker 3: code and say that it even gets to that dreaded

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Speaker 3: seventh game, but enough for the Wolves to get over.

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Speaker 1: Those I'll go thunder and six. It's it lines up

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Speaker 1: that way for the thunder side. I'm telling you it's

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be it's not gonna be an easy series.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not gonna be a rollover so

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Speaker 1: the world. It's just great basketball. I mean real, we

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Speaker 1: are gonna see some phenomenal basketball. But overall, like there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be one or two games where the thunder are

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Speaker 1: going to win and we're gonna say, boy, that was

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Speaker 1: a bad game from and Edwards or boy he really

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Speaker 1: need to do a little bit more in that game,

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Speaker 1: right that. I think that'll happen twice in this series.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know they we're gonna get that once

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Speaker 1: from SGA. I really don't. I really don't think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask the one one question that's the

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Speaker 3: obvious about it, and you know, we we have to

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Speaker 3: ask it. When SGA is involved, how much do you

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Speaker 3: get to bang on him a little bit? Because watching

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Speaker 3: the game look and it got out of sorts in

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Speaker 3: Game seven with with the Nuggets pretty fast. But like

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Speaker 3: the Alex Caruso and what he was able to do

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Speaker 3: physically with NICOLEA. Jokic, is it because he's bigger?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: You you coached soccer? How often did you have you

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Speaker 3: know your your defender could get thrown around by a

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Speaker 3: forward and doesn't get a call because you know your

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Speaker 3: defender's stout and has some size, right, And from Nicola Jokic,

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00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: it seemed like Cruso was able to do whatever he could. Uh,

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Speaker 3: and you're you're not necessarily getting the same call, whereas

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Speaker 3: with SGA, he's initiating all sorts of contact. All right,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna go live at the foul line. Is is

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Speaker 3: that how this plays out? Or do they let him

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Speaker 3: muddy it up a bit because if they do advantage

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Speaker 3: Minnesota in a huge way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, the money up is

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Speaker 1: a good point, But I think that the league is

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Speaker 1: a little worried about what a really big defensive series

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Speaker 1: is going to look like. But they want points on

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Speaker 1: the board. They want Sga and n Edwards to go

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Speaker 1: for forty a piece in every game. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be I would say, because the NBA knows

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Speaker 1: what they're doing when they assign referees, I would think

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Speaker 1: this series will be assigned a little bit looser, whereas

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Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Pacers series may be a little

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Speaker 1: bit tighter. I forget who it was.

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00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: Someone posted the for folks interested in this thing, and

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Speaker 3: it was like a Facebook page of all the officials.

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Speaker 1: That will be working these two series.

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Speaker 3: Game one tomorrow to sixteen. You're over under Thunder a

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Speaker 3: seven and a half point favorite.

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Speaker 1: I got Thunder and six. Mike has the Minnesota Chimberwolves

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Speaker 1: in seven. His t Wolves is deals INDs seven. Uh, yes, tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: and of course we'll pick the Knicks Pacer series. But

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Speaker 1: come on, really, do I need to pick that Knicks

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Speaker 1: and PACs said? For Nick said, but you're only saying

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Speaker 1: that because I'm picking the Knicks. It's the only reason.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Look, we've got to have our Haliburton Brunson

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Speaker 3: WWE style.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next. More from the NBA that conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: on a conspiracy theory, plus more