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Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine? Now?

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Speaker 1: Ride with Karen and Chris? Okay, welcome to Do you

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Speaker 1: need a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks. I'm in my

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Speaker 1: hometown of Missoula, Montana with my father. We are taking

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Speaker 1: to the dump. This is my father, Jim Fairbanks. H Chris.

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Speaker 1: We're going to the dump. Where is the dump? I

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Speaker 3: The dump is actually straight ahead and you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: North side is kind of our breaking bed part of town,

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Speaker 3: It's do you know that there are really any really

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Speaker 1: The Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad the TV show had a

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Speaker 1: lot of modest characters, and we're about to go through

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just thinking about the North Side and

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Speaker 3: the cutest girl from the North Side named Phyllis Willis.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Phillis Willis was from the North Side and

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Speaker 3: as you stated, we are we've created garbage by a

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Speaker 3: I was, yeah, I had wheels with the boy. Once

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Speaker 1: We rolled it down the yard, passed a couple of

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Speaker 3: So I do know something about landfill's, as you say,

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Speaker 3: I think of my hometown in West Conquer, Minnesota, a

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Speaker 3: He'd come in and you drive in and you'd give

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Speaker 1: And he'd showcase it at his place of residence.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's some the junk duy. So so we're.

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Speaker 1: The Babcocks have also come along ways from junkman to governor.

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Speaker 1: So what is this? What does it do then? If

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Speaker 3: Class le three landfill? A Class one landfill would take

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Speaker 3: For us, right, it's not gonna impose. It is not

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Speaker 3: And then there's gas? There's nothing gas.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're talking about a septic tank. How

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Speaker 3: They flare it out here, which means they've burn it.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Honestly, it's when I was younger. I really liked

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Speaker 1: It's a great place to get technis. It's a popping noise.

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Speaker 1: So how do you Why do you know? I did

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Speaker 3: I'm a you just remember one of my one of

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Speaker 3: They spent a half million dollars to prove I was

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Speaker 1: Was it? What if? Was it during a court case

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Speaker 1: Sell jokes. You sell jokes to Polisher's dad.

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Speaker 3: Actually, as I I was hiring other jocks, and as

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Speaker 3: You have to wait until that guy leaves. Okay, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we no longer can get up into where that.

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Speaker 3: Theyve curvered them up. This is like a depreciating asset

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Speaker 3: Right, but only for the next fifty years or something.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's fine, we won't have to worry about it. No,

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Speaker 3: But it's sealed and they put wells in it, and

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Speaker 3: Because it's a cold truck. It's still so nice looking

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Speaker 1: to this junk man right, Hey, your name must be Babcock.

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Speaker 3: We have a mattress and a grill. Good, how are

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Speaker 1: What do we got a mattress and an old grill?

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Speaker 4: Okay? So have you put the grill right over here

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Speaker 3: One of the washers and dryers and stuff are why

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Speaker 4: Metal and I don't have to churn for it. And

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Speaker 4: then just mapplis. I'll just do a yard.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh sixteen fifty. Yeah, sixteen fifty is the minimum.

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Speaker 3: She's not gonna charge us for the other thing. But

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Speaker 1: Okay, so she just wants to win us over. That's

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Speaker 1: the babcock way. She's obviously a babcock daughter. They know

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Speaker 3: Please about the dollar. Only sixteen fifty to get rid

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Speaker 3: of this worthless, mapless stupid We don't aren't shield with

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Speaker 1: Oh I got you. I got I thought you just

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Speaker 1: would in a a in a human way. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There you go, daddy. Let me sign that the chilled

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Speaker 1: and cock. Put your bab cock down on that data, dyd.

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Speaker 3: There we are.

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Speaker 1: Your signature is looking good.

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Speaker 3: That's nice of you to say that. But you're a

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Speaker 1: My dad has a bad wrist.

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Speaker 3: Oh there are more, yes, oh each one.

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Speaker 1: They want your bad cock, your handcock and your madison.

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Speaker 1: Well before when I saw you sign it was really

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's really bad. Sometimes I just take off start

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Speaker 1: And you got a surgery, right.

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Speaker 4: Very often sometimes I can send you there, like normally,

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Speaker 4: if you would have had a load plus mattress, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or if we had, you know, family from out

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Speaker 1: All right? I have obscure interests. Thanks. I think she

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Speaker 3: You gotta go in there. Oh that's where the rule goes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's unload this. We're connected to Mike's.

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Speaker 3: So I tell you has pushed that mofo off. Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: why are you back in?

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Speaker 1: There's a treadmill? Oh of course. See, my driving decisions

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Speaker 3: Well, at least the four or five is absent.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not My life isn't endanger along with yours?

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Speaker 3: Well you look at this, see see how this that's

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Speaker 3: a uh, that's a settling pomp okay, and stuff will

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unload this ship, all right and sell it

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Speaker 1: to It's like jelly preserves, all right, all right? How

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Speaker 1: That stuff's heavy. Does it hurt your wrists to do that?

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Speaker 3: Everything hurts my wrist.

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Speaker 1: But you're a painter, So has it been affecting your painting?

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Speaker 3: Or are you just I can't do fine stuff?

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Speaker 1: Well, when I was young, you did more gestural brushstrokes. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Are we on? You know how you've seen how I

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Speaker 3: if only people could see this gesture.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's very visual process.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, so that that doesn't involve a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: And right right, you.

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Speaker 3: Know I do when people retire, And I've been retired

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Speaker 1: When I was young, I had all these paintings heres.

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Speaker 1: But and you were working. You went from that turning

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Speaker 1: And sure enough, when you retired, you painted. I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I closed down three galleries in town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Use, it's just it's Montana. You know. We Montana

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Speaker 3: Not so much. So, uh, which is you know, if

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Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, well, I'm just retired out, I'm painting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have to pull back. And never been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as I say, I do a little consulting, that's

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Speaker 3: The biggest problem is writing ship down right, Well, your hand.

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Speaker 1: I've just seen you with a cup of coffee and

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can. I can spray everybody on the table.

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Speaker 1: If something's heavy, you're fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bowling ball, I'm okay, as well as

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Speaker 3: the small ball child's bowling ball.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we were at the mall one day. I

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Speaker 3: That's just shaking back and forth.

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Speaker 3: We'll get that man over there. The soup going o everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's a lunatic. So when I need to know more

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Speaker 3: Going to art school in Oakland, and I was working

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well. Don Holle is a consequence of people

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Speaker 3: in a marvelous vacation spot, sipping lovely drinks and eating

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his whole career is based on drunk people

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Speaker 3: Right. Attorney was a little like that. He was a

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's gonna love this stuff. So I fed him.

444
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: Stuff for a while, but he and then he stopped

445
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: paying you, right.

446
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and then that's when I got into radio.

447
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: It's funny that you have more of a more of

448
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: a relationship with the Shortes than I do, because they

449
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: that family owns the comedy store, and I live in

450
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: that same city, but I don't go there because it's

451
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: the parking is bad, it's on sunset. He's still alive,

452
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: I think, barely, as well as Mitzi, his wife. She

453
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: runs the store. Yeah, okay, his family. It's kind of

454
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: in the Portland area. I think, I don't know what

455
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: where he is, but.

456
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: Never met the guy. It was an intermediary. I sent

457
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: the stuff out.

458
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd you send it in an envelope?

459
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: Gave it to my friend who oh okay, okay, and

460
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: this was six months worth of yeah right yeah, and

461
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: I decided, okay, I just can't sell another starter.

462
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: It was one of the things you were doing. Tell

463
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: me all the different jobs you've had.

464
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: Upholster different careers.

465
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: You tried to design greeting cards for a while, right, well.

466
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're If you're an artist, takes a great

467
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: deal of courage and sticktuitiveness to hang in there. You know,

468
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: I was selling auto parts at the time, making maybe

469
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: two week right, okay, and that was pretty good back

470
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: in the sixties. So I got a job as a

471
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: as a commercial artist, doing paste up work and designing.

472
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: Uh, tell me about that. Wasn't there time Mercury the

473
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 1: Cougar story then?

474
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: Oh that was a radio thing and mona h okay.

475
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: They introduced the car, the Mercury Cougar, and and they

476
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: brought down this young, pretty blonde girl. This is this

477
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: is what what happens to a seventy year old And

478
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: I can't think of this girl's name.

479
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Who needs to know her name? Everyone knows her name,

480
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Describe her body?

481
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: Dad yes, come on, it doesn't married to the six

482
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: thousand or six million dollars.

483
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Sarapace.

484
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: F Fara Facet was the decoration for selling the very

485
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: first cougar.

486
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: She was the walking, talking decoration of the Mercury.

487
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: That in that in the Moderate Peninsula.

488
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Because that's real pretty that cop dressed like a hot

489
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: dog Fender god, just soft in the middle.

490
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: Making his own gravy. That's a Letterman line. I've always loved.

491
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: It putting cops on bicycles. The number one uh gravy producer.

492
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: So Fara fawcet clue.

493
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't keep her hands off men. Yeah, you

494
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: had a problem.

495
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: I've always had, yeah, beaten off very fair famous wives

496
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: or majors.

497
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: No, she was, she was not. This was before Charlie's

498
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: Angels was just coming up. So so they came into

499
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: the radio station because they were using a local Mercury dealer,

500
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: and they said, I want six sixty second commercials. And

501
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: I wrote the commercials and boised them and did the

502
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: commercial work like I always did. And you had these

503
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: you had these records with sound effects on them, so

504
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: there'd be music and occasionally you need.

505
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: Sorry, so there's.

506
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: One hundred albums with all of that question in there,

507
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: and they had this big painting of a cougar on

508
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: the front window, and so I thought, well, I'm going

509
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: to have a common tagline for all these commercials, and

510
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: I'll say at the sign of the cat, because there

511
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: was this big cat and then the big grout at

512
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: the side of the cat. And then yeah, well I

513
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: got my seven hundred and fifty dollars right, yeah, six

514
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: commercials and voicing them and the national you know, Jay

515
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: Walder Thompson said, I like that son of the Cat

516
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: ship and oh wow, God. They used that for Mercury

517
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: as long as they made a cougar and that was

518
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: their trademark. Yeah, that's that's funny.

519
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: What about the logo was that I thought in my

520
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: head you had also drawn the logo, but that it

521
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: was just that. No, it was just that you first

522
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: told me about that when we were on a family

523
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: vacation and I had just done some T shirts for

524
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: the Albertson's here it was like a beach themed just

525
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: a drawing of with the Albertsons logo in it. And

526
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: then we were in Utah behind an Albertson semi truck right,

527
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: and I saw the art on the semi.

528
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: Wow, that's right.

529
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: That was crazy. I was like a man and I

530
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: got less than I got six fifty an hour. And

531
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: with that out, I can tell her that one.

532
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm working on weekend for somebody. I'm working

533
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: a Sunday for somebody on the radio station. And there

534
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: was an earthquake, not particularly strong, and so I got

535
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: on the phone to Berkeley. Oh this was we were

536
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: in Monterey, and said, anybody in the seismological department I

537
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: can talk to, And a seismographer responded with the twenty

538
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: thirty seconds of yeah, it was a four point two whatever, right,

539
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: and the epicenter and all that information, and ran it

540
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: on the local news. I'm sitting there was a lot

541
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: going on. So the network, the Mutual Broadcasting System, which

542
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: was our network, whose network, called from New York and said,

543
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: there was an earthquake in California. It's kind of a

544
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: slow weekend. Do you have anything on that? And I said, yeah,

545
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: I do. I've got this twenty seconds or so, plus

546
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: you know, I could do a little intro here. And

547
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: as a aside, this Hollister, Montana, which is the epicenter

548
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: of the San Andreas Fault was the location of a

549
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: motorcycle gang taking over this town back in forty nine

550
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: to fifty in a subsequent movie five years later starring

551
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: model and Marlon Brandow. Yeah, yeah, so I could slip

552
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: something like that in. Okay, So ultimately that was part

553
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: of the package. Yeah, so I ended up doing a

554
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: sixty second news story, which is really long. Sixty seconds.

555
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: It's a long time radio it, but or even television

556
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: it's fifteen seconds. So I did that and I hear this.

557
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: I think it was a Saturday, not a Sunday. All

558
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 3: the entire weekend. It's on the national news Jim far

559
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: Go to Jim Fair, Yeah, baber Way in California and

560
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: you just sid and they cut that thing up. Well,

561
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: a friend of mine was a was a news stringer,

562
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: and he'd been just covered the Angela Davis trial and

563
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: he bought a new car.

564
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow.

565
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make some money here. They're running this. Later

566
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: out of my cousin who was in Germany said hey,

567
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: I heard you on the radio. Bought the earthquake like

568
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: six months later. Yeah, so this went worldwide. I'm thinking

569
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: Katchen Katchin. Yeah, so I about two weeks later, the

570
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: mail comes. There's a letter from the Mutual Broadcasting Company

571
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: to me. Oh shit, and it's got a window in it.

572
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh boy, So I tear that puppy open. Oh boy,

573
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: And I ran down to the dollar figure. Eight dollars, jesus,

574
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: eight dollars. Granted it was some time ago. I got

575
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: on the phone immediately and what's the eight dollars?

576
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Well, you're affiliate, we already own you.

577
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah shit, that was it.

578
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: That is that's eight dollars. Also, just to bring it

579
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: to modern day, that that's exactly how much they will

580
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: staple together to a W two that you fill out

581
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: when you work at the improvisation in Hollywood. They give

582
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: you eight bucks. You know, there's a bunch of comics

583
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: on the bill. It's just funny to get. I don't

584
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: like getting such a small amount. You know, I can

585
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: always use any amount of money, But when the person

586
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: paying you gets to walk away with the satisfaction of

587
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: having felt they've paid you, and that's when I'd rather

588
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: just do it for free. It's like, you know what,

589
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: keep your eight bucks. I want to leave this transaction

590
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: with you knowing you fully ripped me off. And the

591
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: only people know that it is a zero dollar amount. Wow,

592
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just I don't It

593
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: was worse when it was a check though, because yeah,

594
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: you'd get checks for eight bucks or maybe it was twelve.

595
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just so funny.

596
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do this.

597
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's starting to you know, Yeah.

598
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: I think you and your pals, and it takes a

599
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: lot of courage, a lot of guts, showing a lot

600
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: of guts coming off off of abdominal surgery, showing a

601
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: lot of guts there, well, Field.

602
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: I thank you, but I think it also, it's just

603
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've put too much time in and

604
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm too stubborn to because there's been opportunities to kind

605
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: of parlay this in the writing jobs or what. But

606
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: I like doing stand up, so I just yeah, it's

607
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: an up and down thing. I also must, on some

608
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: level that I'm not recognizing, enjoy the up and down

609
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: of it. There's dry spells, and that makes you appreciate

610
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: the wet spells. And I know that came out sounding

611
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: medical or graphic. We all have wet spells and they

612
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: feel great, but a dry spell almost tucks you out

613
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: of the business that you know when you wake up

614
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 1: and there's there's a that's when you know that money

615
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: is gonna come rolling in. Yeah, I uh yeah.

616
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: But now this is an attraction. This is called Splash Mountana.

617
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why didn't they have this when I was a kid?

618
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, the grand kids, your nieces and nephews. I love

619
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: coming here. You know they did. There's tubes you slide

620
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: down in and the.

621
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Lazy river thinguse water slides. I'm not that into, but

622
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: the lazy grip you just lounge there water. Occasionally you

623
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: go under some fake waterfall. Get to watch.

624
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: Kids buckets fill and then bump on you.

625
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Kids having fun. I like watching kids have fun. But

626
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: it's weird when you have a mustache like mine. You

627
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: can't do it for too long.

628
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 3: Is the mustache or something that's Yeah.

629
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: It's not the same as when you had one. It's

630
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: putting out a mess.

631
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: Everyone had one. Yeah, didn't you used to think that

632
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: that I was?

633
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I thought you were a Mexican. Yeah, you were very tan,

634
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and you always had a big dark mustache and big

635
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: head of dark almost black hair, and I, yeah, my

636
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: dad's Mexican. I don't know why I thought. I don't

637
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: know what we live in Montana. Everyone's white. I don't

638
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: know why. I I guess I saw a picture that

639
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: looked like my dad. I didn't know Mexican. I'd never

640
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: been to Mexico. Of course I was toddler, so I

641
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: guess I was. Yeah. There are some cartoons that you

642
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: probably drew in your shrink comic and then and then

643
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Cheech May and that was my only reference. And I think,

644
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: h Maren's probably a Jewish guy. Tommy Chong certainly isn't Latino.

645
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: I remember one of your first fallover sideways laughing jokes,

646
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: and it really wasn't a joke. You were like three

647
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: or four years old. Gosh, I wish I could get

648
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: these things straight.

649
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's all right.

650
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: I was a little guy, you were a tiny person.

651
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: Did not like peas. I still like peas.

652
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't like peas still, and I grew up.

653
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong in a family situation where

654
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: you ate everything. I liked it. You couldn't say, oh,

655
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

656
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: I remember you guys making me sit and.

657
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: I made you sit there until he's still sitting there?

658
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: Could he's still sitting there?

659
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Mom? Mom wasn't the best cook. I'm sorry, No, she

660
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: wasn't was very awful. I had eventually hide it in

661
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: my sock or something.

662
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: You put it in your little pants, you know, your

663
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: little pants, of those little tiny.

664
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: Pot that's like I'm in prison. And there were peas

665
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: in a little pocket and a sharpened toothbrush just in

666
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: case sh it got real nasty.

667
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: So so uh so you said, was not having the

668
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: greatest vocabulary. Vocabulary vocabulary, Larry Tabulary, You said, I but daddy,

669
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: I don't like green balls. And I love the fact

670
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: that you said green balls. And every every time a

671
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: little kid said something cute, I never correct them because

672
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: eventually they're gonna find it.

673
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: I just love hearing well, I think that I think

674
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: that it was later I called back to it during.

675
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: The halfway through this.

676
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I'm sorry.

677
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: So later that year, you had artistic talent at a

678
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: very early age. As soon as you could grab a pencil,

679
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: I said, we are going to make Christmas cards with color.

680
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: And so everybody always appreciated getting Christmas cards from you

681
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: and I and so I take old Christmas card you know,

682
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: steel plage your eyes yet of course you know, and

683
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: rip off.

684
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just Sammy the design and Carlos Mencia it

685
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: onto a piece of paper.

686
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: So here's one with with with a dove and looked

687
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: really pretty in it said peace, pray for peace, that's

688
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: what it was. And you asked, not being able to read,

689
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: what does that say? And and I said it says

690
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: pray for peace. And you looked incredulously and turned your

691
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: little head and said, why would anybody pray for green balls?

692
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Which at the time, which I didn't see it. I

693
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: didn't see the anatomy joke at the time, because it

694
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: would be you would be a lunatic if you had

695
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: prayed for your balls or peace peace, either one.

696
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: Why would anybody pray for green balls?

697
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: Of course I prayed for peace. I don't say anyone's name.

698
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: I just asked for it, prayed for peace, more peace.

699
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: I did not a spell yet. We used to do

700
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: a lot of You had me painting windows when I

701
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: was young, murals on windows. I'm sorry, I yeah, I

702
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: had to wait till five o'clock for you to get

703
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: off work. It's already dark. I could be a couple

704
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: of windows in exactly. I get off out of school,

705
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: so I was high.

706
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 3: I was pretty cheap.

707
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a fun thing for us to

708
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: do together.

709
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: I liked and I liked the fact that you had

710
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: to sell it. I didn't go out to sell it.

711
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: I would purposefully dress like Oliver Twist with some paint

712
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: on my shirt and go act like I was cold.

713
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Would you like to have your.

714
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: Windows, have your windowsighted?

715
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Would you like my fingers? It is just warm enough

716
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: to hold a brush for another hour? Might you like

717
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: a snow scene? But I'd show them then show them

718
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: a book that you made of designs and those Where

719
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: did you get those designs? Those are just kind of.

720
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: Also I went to art school. Yeah, I just came

721
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: up with them.

722
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just classic Santa.

723
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: Claus Santa and the snow and the trees and the

724
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: season's great. I was an in and out kind of person.

725
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: You were, You were a person that had to create something. Well,

726
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: that's I just wanted.

727
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Them, do you And I'm all, no, Well, it's just

728
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: a style thing. A little bit. I hunch over and

729
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: I get detailed. Yeah, and I always sadly.

730
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: I've seen but.

731
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be, especially with painting, you know,

732
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: gestural and and and you know, exploring how quickly you

733
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: can the figures and remember motion and everything.

734
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Do you remember university motors? Oh god, it was so

735
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 3: cold that the paint wouldn't dry.

736
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: These all these car dealers freeze amazingly. They they felt,

737
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: had the balls to ask to be put in a

738
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Nativity scene. So I'm putting yes, yeah, I know, but

739
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to make them happy. It was it was

740
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: Hubbard's dad. I always wanted that kid to like me.

741
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I'll paint all you all you

742
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: big assholes, and a Nativity scene, which one of you

743
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: is going to be Jesus. And it was so cold

744
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: we pain It was freezing while we were painting, so.

745
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: And the pain yeah, the paint just didn't lay down and.

746
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: Dry hair dryer a light behind it, so we couldn't

747
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: even see what we were doing. And then and then

748
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: we finally finished it in the dark, and I think.

749
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 3: We had to come back because the figure looked horrible.

750
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: They looked well it it fought out over in the

751
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: morning and then dried as it was thawing. So the baby,

752
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: his eyeball had melted down a foot past his head.

753
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: Everyone looked like a melted candle burned victim. And so

754
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: it's a We did the first burn unit Nativity scene,

755
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: the first and last because it was horrifying, and then

756
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: of course they didn't even call us. I just we

757
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: had to go back and scrape it off. I couldn't

758
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: have my name on that window.

759
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: Hey, did you ever do inside out?

760
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Yes? I did that in Texas, but I that took

761
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. You have to basically start with

762
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: the twinkle of the eye and then and like with.

763
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: Santa, you start with the white shiny twinkle on his cheek,

764
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: and then the red and then the pink, and.

765
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Then the face color and then in.

766
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 3: The uh mustache.

767
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: And the last thing you would do is his hat. Yes,

768
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: it was.

769
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: Well the first thing is his hat, right, okay, yes,

770
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: of course, yes, yes, your white head.

771
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

772
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

773
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: See it's hard to I can't even it was verbalize it.

774
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: I did that at the Haunted Place and my only

776
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: ghost experience. While I'm painting windows in Austin and they

777
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: tell you it's haunted, But I don't listen when people

778
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: say that stuff because I don't know. You and I

779
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: both don't know what happens when we die. But I

780
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: I there was something in there, and I could hear people.

781
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: I could hear people partying. And then the guy showed

782
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: up and he said, okay, you can come and go now.

783
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: I unlocked the front door and I said, oh, no,

784
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: there's other employees decorating up here. I can hear them laughing.

785
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, there's no one here that there's just

786
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ghosts up there. I was hearing laughter,

787
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: I was hearing I'm like, it's a little early to

788
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: be drinking. I could hear people cheersing. It was ten

789
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: in the morning. And then I'm like, well, I don't

790
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: believe in that shit. I'm not scared. And I went

791
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: to wash the brushes down this hallway and I felt like,

792
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: even though I couldn't see it, I felt like someone

793
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: was wrapping me up in a cape.

794
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what you were You were spooked.

795
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: I was spooked, but I know I heard stuff. And

796
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: then when I started to get mad about it and

797
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: saying get out of here, I got to finish this wall.

798
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I was painting a wall. A stack of pint glasses

799
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: tipped over. So I packed up my stuff and I said,

800
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: I'll just come back later when there's Because they were

801
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: going to have a banquet in the where I was painting,

802
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: so I just went back later when there's people I

803
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: actually left. I was too confronted by that. I don't

804
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: and it was not It was an angry feeling. But

805
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: that's the only time I've ever experienced anything. There wasn't

806
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 1: just paranoia or because.

807
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm open to it. Yeah, just really suspicious. Yes, you know.

808
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 3: I mean all of this was created by people who

809
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: didn't know where the sun went.

810
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: At night, you know, the people that thought the world

811
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: was flat.

812
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: So you're making some ship up here. I remember just

813
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: being tiny, going to Sunday school and asking my mom

814
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: they presented the talking sneak today.

815
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what.

816
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: Do you think? Oh? I don't know, talking sneak?

817
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: Are you scared enough to believe this? We are? We

818
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: gotta go golfing?

819
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: Wow, look at the that course is not very good shape.

820
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: But it's been hot. It was never hot like this

821
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: when you were a kid, was sure, but not for

822
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: Why know that we never had air conditioning? Right, we

823
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: couldn't live without it?

824
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: Does get that's the problem with have we're now going

825
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: And thank god he brought attention to global warming. I

826
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: think that it was a big mistake to call it

827
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: global warming. Because it's already was hot. Climate change, Yeah,

828
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: climate change, it doesn't. It still gets freezing cold in

829
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: the winter. There's just no snow.

830
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: But there's no snow here anymore.

831
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you can only nor does it.

832
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: You've heard about pine beetles and how they're destroying forests.

833
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: Are they burrow in under the bark and you know

834
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: it's it's really killing a lot of.

835
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: Forests as all the bees guy.

836
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and part of the reason is that it in

837
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: January and places like this, it used to be ten

838
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: below for a week or two. Well it killed. Yeah,

839
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: and Midden never gets that cold. We went below zero

840
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: last early.

841
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: Right before Christmas. It was free and then it dumped

842
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: and that was the first.

843
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: Time they we were below zero for a year and a.

844
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Half and then it snowed like it was nineteen ninety one.

845
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great and that was it. It was no

846
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: more snow. Yeah, it's weird.

847
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: No one, you can't really see the climate change thing

848
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: unless you're somewhere that has four distinct seasons. Oh, look

849
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: at that. That's nice modern.

850
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: I've wondered about that lot.

851
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: It's on a weird obscurey.

852
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they built it four feet from the next house.

853
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: I just missed having seasons. I feel like, yeah, since

854
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: I lived in Los Angeles, I everything just flies by

855
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: because the winter some you know, there's no benchmarking time passing.

856
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: It's just, uh man, it's seventy five degrees all the time.

857
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining.

858
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember time moving slowly when I was in radio.

859
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: I think if you get fired every other year for

860
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: work and moving to another part of the country, yeah,

861
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: it kind of slows the whole process. So don't you

862
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: know the only people that will get complacent here, Yeah,

863
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: bat shit's coming down.

864
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: The only so we're saying, the only way you can

865
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: live a long, full life is through winter and unemployment.

866
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: It's the only way life doesn't fly past. I guess. Yeah,

867
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: time flies when you're having fun. I just realized that

868
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: was a saying, I guess I'm having fun.

869
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

870
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: Oh, that's great to suddenly realize, Yeah, this has been I.

871
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: Think you as I have an extremely high excitement threshold.

872
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's okay right.

873
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: Now, so you look around and say, wow, folks are

874
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 3: joining this. I guess I guess I'm having Yeah.

875
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: Like when we be in a restaurant, people are laughing.

876
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, and you used to say, boy,

877
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: did they all just get out of prison? They're just enjoying.

878
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: They seem to be overly enjoying.

879
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: What why can't I be that happy as that guy

880
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: with that bullet pudding?

881
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

882
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: That guy, the guy with a you know, camouflage hat

883
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: and no sleeves, seems happier than me. It's just easier.

884
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I've you know, I wear camouflage hats and

885
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: sleeveless shirts.

886
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: So who am I to judge the dirt queen?

887
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the king of the dairy queen, the king

888
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: of He's a nice guy.

889
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 3: He is a nice guy.

890
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: You know. I heard he's got a giant safe in

891
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: his garage in the floor.

892
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: He moved here from the town I was born, Conquer, Minnesota. Wow,

893
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: that's where the hospital was living over time, the hospital

894
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: was the same.

895
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: What didn't we live in Pacific Grove? But the hospital

896
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: was in Carmela, just four walks of a small town.

897
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I lot my train of thought.

898
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: That's okay, we're home, Yeah, we are home. We went

899
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: to the damn dump, got rid of stuff. I feel

900
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: like a man. God, let's go inside and eat and

901
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: meat and have a beer.

902
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: I'm done with the beer thing.

903
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: Okay, well you've heard me and my father James Fairbanks.

904
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: This has been another episode of do you need a ride?

905
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: D y n A R?

906
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: And I did need a ride? Are not work?

907
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: There?

908
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: We go?

909
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: I leave? You want to way back?

910
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: You?

911
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: Do you want to be there? Doesn't matter how much

912
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: baggage you time and Turman al engay. We want to

913
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: send you off inside. Do you want to welcome you

914
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: back home? Tell us all about it?

915
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?

916
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: Now? Porn?

917
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

918
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

919
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?

920
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride?

921
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: Do you need ride? Do you need to ride?

922
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: Do you need

923
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: With Karen and Chriss