1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: Don't know. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: Every day a waiting click your ass up the Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: You don't finish for y'all done morning. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 3: Everybody's d J n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: we are the breakfast Club. Lon LaRosa is here as well. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, Tie Dollar Sign. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 4: What's going on? 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: How are you feeling? 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Plus black and Holly favored new album Tycoon coming? 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 5: That's how you're feeling, yeaes, sir, Tycoon on the way 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 5: ten seventeen. 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 6: What do you think defines the tie dollar sign sound 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 6: right now? Because a lot of people say you've helped 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 6: shape like the modern R and B signd So what 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 6: what what defines the tie dollar sign sound right now? 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Just taking your time in finding the right you know 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, damn, that's a question right there. 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: That's what interviews are four times a questions. 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: That's a good question. What is the sound ship? The 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: shit fucking greatness? There we go? 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 7: Okay, at what point did you realize that you had 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 7: more to offer the world. I saw something where you 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 7: talked about like, you know, this album being for people 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 7: who you know, you dream, but you know it's more 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 7: to you. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 8: When did you realize that about till sign? 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 5: I realized that like early, early, but especially when I 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 5: got my first job. My first job was when I 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 5: was like sixteen, and it was at a subway sandwiches, 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: and uh, I was in there going through the you 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: know when they teach you everything, and I didn't come back. 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: I went one day and that was it. 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: I can't do this, it's not for me. 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm about to go make music and figure it out. 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: Is that why you am I getting this ready? That 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: where you met like YG and everybody back then? 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you met me someway sandwich. Now I 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: was much later though. 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay, why tycoon? 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: Why is that the name of the tycoon? Because that's 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 5: where I'm staying up and into my greatness. It's a 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: it came from a Japanese word great lord, and you 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 5: know over here in English it's like top of your game, 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 5: top of your business. I did the artist thing. I 45 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: started the record label Easy Money. We signed our first artist, 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 5: Leon Thomas. He's now Leon Thomas. 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 6: I don't think you get enough credit for that, like 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: people like people mention it, but it's like no, that's 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 6: time that was not artists, which says a lot. Like 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 6: I always say, you know, you become a true legend 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 6: when you're. 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 5: Tree bands fruit Exactly. Yeah, man, So shout out to Leon. 53 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 5: I'm a champagne owner. Now it's the champagne. What else 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: we got? I'm about to drop a documentary. Yeah, my daughter. 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: Let's talk about my daughter. My daughter's twenty years old. 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 5: Now she's at Pepperdine getting her master's. 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: Wow, shout out to her. 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Man, that's what life is about. 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 6: Talking about in real fruits when it comes to Leon, right, like. 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: How did they meet? First of all, how do y'all 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: how did you sign Leon? What do y'all meet? 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 5: We met at this studio session like during the pandemic. 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: My homie uh A Lee was like, Yo, you got 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: to check this out, and he played me this song, 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 5: that California Cation song that we It's called Love Jones now, 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: but the first it was Californication and then it's Love 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 5: Jones on his first album, And really I was supposed 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 5: to put that out, but I didn't put it out, 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 5: and then he was like, I'm about to use it 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 5: on my shit. 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Man. 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 5: We ended up signing on me and Sean Baron because 73 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 5: we always talked about making a label together. Sean Baron 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: is the guy who signed me to Atlantic in twenty twelve, 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: and now we got a label together. 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: So it's a blessing. Man. 77 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 6: You know a lot of artists they'll see another artist 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 6: with that type of talent and they'll basically like just 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 6: take the whole or take the energy for themselves. What 80 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: made you say, nah, man, I want you to go fly. 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: On your own because it just reminded me of myself 82 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: like at that time, just being great with people not 83 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 5: knowing what to do or know what I mean. So 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, we got the label, would you be down? 85 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: He's like, what, let's go and we figured it out. 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 7: What instincts do you use in business that you gather 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 7: from music or vice versa that help you be good 88 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 7: at what you do? 89 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: Uh, It's it's a total different thing. But in business, 90 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: I just it's all about getting the right team, you 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And I got a great team, 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: So I just want to shout out to them because 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 5: I couldn't do it all alone for sure. 94 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 6: How do you balance being a collaborator behind a sound 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 6: but then being an artist in front of it, because 96 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 6: you know, you work and produce for people everybody, Right, 97 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 6: So how do you know when to just be a 98 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 6: collaborator behind the sound, but then switching ow to do 99 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 6: the album and being an artist in front of the son. 100 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, when it comes to music, I just like give 101 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: it what it needs, you know what I mean. I 102 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 5: don't try to overdo it. It's like if I'm if 103 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: I feel like it just needs my feature. Cool, if 104 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: it's my song, it's a whole different thing. I mean, 105 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: it's the intention. 106 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 9: And you're talking about that. 107 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 10: You're also dropping a documentary Still, Free TC, what is 108 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 10: that about? Give us a little bit about I know 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 10: you don't want to spoil it. 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: Free TC is basically going to show you my whole 111 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 5: There's some parts that are not in there, but it's 112 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 5: basically my whole thing from a kid all the way 113 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: up until now. 114 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: The whole trajectory like. 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: Deeper than any other interview has went or any other 116 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: any other way. You guys see me out there for sure, 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: that's on the way. It's basically done. I scored the 118 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 5: whole thing, and shout out to the whole team that 119 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: put that together as well. 120 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: Who pushes you the most as far as creative is it? 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: Your artist is it. 122 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: Another artist that you're in, whether it's YG or whoever 123 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: it may be, who pushes you the most to say, now, 124 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: I could do better than that. 125 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: I think I pushed myself the hardest. 126 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: Just from just for Karen and wanted to go to 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: the next level. And it's just like, all right, that's cool, 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: but what can we do different? 129 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: All right? 130 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: That sounds like, you know I've heard this before. What 131 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: can we do? You know what I mean? 132 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: To take it to the next level. I get real 133 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: bored with music, you know what I mean. It's like 134 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: how many songs come out of day? You know what 135 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's like, what can we do to 136 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: make it like interesting? You know what I'm saying? What's 137 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 5: the wild factor? 138 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 9: What's there? Inspiration? 139 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Right? 140 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 10: Because your voice is like timeless on anything. Anything you 141 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 10: put your voice on, it makes it a hit, right. 142 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 10: I love your vocals, love your voice. 143 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 9: Who is inspiration? 145 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: Inspiration? Tons? 146 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 5: It could be We can name back in the day 147 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 5: artists all the way up until now. But I like Prince, 148 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 5: I like di'angelo, I like Joe to See, I like Himrell, 149 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 5: I like all the greatest singers, Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wander 150 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: is my favorite male singer ever. I could just then 151 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 5: there's rap, then there's like house music, then there's rock music. 152 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 5: Then there's tons of things that can inspire me. 153 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 9: We just love music. 154 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: Sure you remember the first that you want? The record 155 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: you ever heard? 156 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Or Stevie Wonder record. Ah, maybe isn't she lovely? 157 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 158 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the first. 159 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: But that's the one that you felt like you did. 160 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: That's just what I thought of right now when you 161 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: say you can hear it? 162 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Did you grow up singing in church? 163 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: No? I didn't. I didn't. 164 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 5: I didn't really want people to know I could sing 165 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: back then. I didn't really like all the way know 166 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: how to sing back then, but it was in me. 167 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: But I was playing bas in church though. 168 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, when did you first start singing? 169 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: I first started singing when I was a kid, but 170 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: like publicly what was her name? What was her name? 171 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: That was really my pops that got me into singing, 172 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: because y'all know my pops. He did music as well. 173 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: He still does music to this day. He just sent 174 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: me this video of him playing somewhere playing trumpet. But uh, yeah, man, 175 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 5: it's just it's just something that I've always loved and 176 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: I get to make money off of it, you know 177 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: what I mean? 178 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 9: Why don't you want people to know you could sing? 179 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Like? 180 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 9: What was that about? 181 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just I just didn't feel comfortable. 182 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: I guess it was some shy shit. 183 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 184 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: I was easier, it was easier to just play an 185 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: instrument or Yeah. 186 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 6: When you look at our R and B is evolved. 187 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 6: What do you think missing from the genre right now? 188 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: What's missing from the genre right now? And R and 189 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: B is uh? Other subjects? M hmm, it's like everybody 190 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: just in like black music period, it's like. 191 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: The same subjects, you know what I'm saying. I think 192 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: we should start just talking about other things, like regular life, 193 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 5: going to do LAUNDRYGGA, going to the. 194 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: Grocery stuff, regular ship. 195 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: When you're listening to country songs that you listen to 196 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 5: just all other genres, people are down to talk about, 197 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Other stuff, regular life stuff. 198 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: No, that's interesting because when people think R and B, 199 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: you automatically think love you did girls, But like what 200 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: is you can just sing about a good. 201 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 10: Day and it's relatable. It's relatable. So that's how you 202 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 10: always running people over. 203 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: So you're saying you got them type of songs on Tycoon. 204 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, right, So what can we expect on Tycoon A 205 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 10: bunch of the same song. 206 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 2: No, it's not, man, it's crazy. Tycoon is crazy. You're 207 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: gonna get the You're gonna get the party, You're gonna 208 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: get the love. You're gonna get the uh my type 209 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: of love. You're gonna get the you know, real life. 210 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's. 211 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: Your type of love? Time? Because you just said you shy? 212 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 10: Nah? 213 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I said I was Mine may 214 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 5: not be like everybody else's, but you're gonna get my 215 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 5: point of view. So stay stay tuned ten seventeen. 216 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: When you talk about soul, right, like, like, what is 217 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: soul mean to you? Is it the sound? Is it 218 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the feeling? Is it the truth behind the music? 219 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely the truth. It's the intention. Is it's 220 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: the blackness all that? 221 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: M hm? 222 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 223 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 7: So at this point with the the last the last 224 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 7: thing that we said switching gears, the last thing that 225 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 7: we saw with you and Kanye, right, where are y'all 226 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 7: right now? 227 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 8: Today? Is there? Like, what's your relationship like today. 228 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 229 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Six seven six, You couldn't have been shocked when he 230 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: when he came. 231 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Shocked. 232 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you know what I always tell people, if 233 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 6: you want to see how somebody's eventually gonna treat you, 234 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 6: watch how they treat it us. 235 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually it's gonna be your turn. Yeah, I mean 236 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: I didn't six seven bro. 237 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 9: I love Vultures one though, Thank you me too. 238 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: I thought that was a great album. Had a lot 239 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: of fun making it too. 240 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: Do you think the world knows your full story yet? 241 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: Uh, there's there's been some pieces. But that's why I'm 242 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: glad I finally got to shoot this documentary of free 243 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: TC on the way. 244 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Then you really get it. You're you're really like feel me, 245 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: feel me? You feel me? 246 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: Like, yeah, when the when the world knows your voice 247 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 6: but not your full story, does that ever feel isolating? 248 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Like you alone? 249 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Nah? Because uh, what I put out was the music. 250 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 5: What I wanted people to know was the music gotcha 251 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 5: And then now it's like, all right, cool, I'll give 252 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: you a little bit more. 253 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 9: When did you record? 254 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: We're actually lucky that it went this way because I 255 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: see how it goes with other people, you know, what. 256 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: Did you care about the bullshit before they care about exactly? 257 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 9: We're good, all right? Cool? When did you record racks 258 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 9: with Tory Lanees and Loder uh ship a minute ago? Yeah? 259 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just rebound them. 260 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 8: And what about Tycoon with Baby in future? 261 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: Oh you know about that? Yeah, we just did that recently. 262 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 8: So the studio, No, I was gonna say all not 263 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 8: all in the same studio. 264 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Not all in the same studio. Nah, mhm. 265 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: You don't like doing interviews, he does not, And it's okay. 266 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: You don't like doing interviews with y'all. 267 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: How long you've been doing each other, you're comfortable, like, oh, 268 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: you know, it's only one show. 269 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: You know you can't I'm like, what, nigga, it's regular. 270 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: But if you can just do the music, you'd rather 271 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: just do the music. 272 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: Nah, because we gotta do this part. People want to know, 273 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: people want to know what's up, you know what I'm saying. 274 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 5: And it's like, I don't mind. It's all a part 275 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 5: of the job. I don't mind eating right, working out, 276 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: waking up, fucking not sleeping. It's way more than just music, 277 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So if you thought you 278 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: was just gonna do music. Good luck, my nigga. 279 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 6: Is it easier to do it now since you are 280 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 6: like such an established artist though, like people do know 281 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 6: tie down? 282 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, I wouldn't say it's easier now. I say 283 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 5: we had to go through so much to get to 284 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: this point, and now I would want to say it's 285 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: on airplane mode. 286 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: But it's still motherfucking you know. It's like that too 287 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: when you. 288 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 7: Say you had to go through so much, was it 289 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 7: because your sound was so new for a lot. 290 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: Of people or yeah, just think of it like this. Man, 291 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: my shit didn't boom until I was twenty seven. I've 292 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 5: been making music since I was like nine years old. Wow, 293 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 5: you know, so thank God for that. And I'm forty now. 294 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 5: What keeps you grounded? 295 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: When fame and ego and chaos feel like it's just 296 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 6: part of the industry rhythm? 297 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 5: Like yeah, I mean, I just stay doing me and 298 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: not being on bullshit when other people be on bullshit, laugh, 299 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 5: do whatever you gotta do, scroll next. 300 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: But I stayed doing me. You know what I'm saying. 301 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm about my shit. I'm bout my business. 302 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 6: I didn't know you had a twenty year old Yeah. Wow, 303 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: So how's that been like? 304 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: You know me. 305 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, growing up in the industry, you always 306 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 6: clearly had a different purpose if you. 307 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: Knew I had a daughter though, right or no. That's 308 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 5: the thing about these interviews. You know what I'm saying. 309 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: Some people don't know and I've been knowing you forever, 310 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 5: so yeah, that's crazy. 311 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: But I mean twenty of the big age. 312 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean, she was nine and now she's twenty. That's 313 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: how it comes. 314 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: That should be quick though, Like I remember, my mom 315 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: used to always say, like how fast life goes and 316 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: you don't realize it until that's real. 317 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: Ship. 318 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 5: For me, it was like after the pandemic. It's like 319 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: when you were going through that pandemic, it was one thing, 320 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: and then after it, even the music industry I feel 321 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: like just changed. 322 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: It was like a whole switch up. 323 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, good a bad, good in 324 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: some ways, bad in some ways. 325 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 10: How does somebody get to know you if they're dating you, 326 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 10: how do you How do you just. 327 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: Got communication and being around every day? That's how you 328 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: get to know me? 329 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 9: Okay, I just wanted to know because you ain't giving 330 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 9: us ship. 331 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: That's why I'm want me to give you. 332 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 10: No, no, no, you're just a man of very few words. 333 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 10: So I'm like, you know what, how would it be 334 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 10: like dating him? Like I wonder if if she finds out, 335 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 10: if does it take her like years to find out? 336 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 5: You're gonna find out everything first day, first couple of weeks. 337 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: I would just said, we just said. I like transparency. 338 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 5: I like you to know what's up. I don't like surprises, 339 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: and I don't like playing with people, and I don't 340 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: like people playing with me. So if if you funk 341 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 5: with it, let's let's see what we're gonna do. 342 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: You don't be telling these girls everything, and I'll. 343 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: Be telling them everything real, I'll be telling them everything, 344 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: and they know each other dying. 345 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 10: I was about to say, because we was talking about 346 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 10: the old cam Newton thing, and do you have to 347 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 10: know a girl's body? 348 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: County the count I don't know what are they really 349 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: going to tell me? 350 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 10: It's the question or if they've ever slept with anybody 351 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 10: else in industry that you may rub elbows. 352 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: Where you may be met question. 353 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: That is a question, I asked, And I will tell 354 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 5: you if we walk into a room and oh yeah, 355 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: just so. 356 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: You know you know what I mean? 357 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 9: Gotcha? 358 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: No, surprises, no surprises. 359 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: And are you willing to stay with a girl or 360 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: she been with like a few of the homies. 361 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 5: Stay with I don't know a few of the homies 362 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: is crazy. But you know what's funny, man, It's like 363 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: I've run into a couple and it'd be a couple. Yeah, 364 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: you know it's happened more than one time where oh yeah, 365 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: well him him or him him and him or maybe. 366 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: Can you take that serious though relationship? 367 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: Say it be fucked up because you already like him 368 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: by the time you find out they be like. 369 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 10: Damn, But you can't take that back though it was 370 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 10: before you. 371 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: You try to, you try to think of it like. 372 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: In your side every time you see the homie, but. 373 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: And you walk off, you look back and you see 374 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: him in the other honey like. 375 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: RB nigga think he doing something? 376 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 9: Damn you? 377 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 8: I mean your R and B. But it's like a 378 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 8: different type of R and B. 379 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 7: Are you like an emotional person in a relationship and 380 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 7: that gives you for your music too? 381 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: Or yeah, I can be sure, I could definitely be emotional. 382 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: How much of that comes? 383 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 6: How much of that comes from your own personal highs 384 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 6: and lows? 385 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Though? 386 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 6: What do you mean by that the emotion, the emotion 387 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: that you put in music. How much of that comes 388 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 6: from your own personal. 389 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: In my music? 390 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: Uh? 391 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, some of it's personal. Some of it's like if 392 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 5: I'm doing a song with a writer, you know what 393 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: I mean. 394 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: Whatever, But I. 395 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 5: Still put my my passion into it, you know, I 396 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 5: still put my my whole thing into it. 397 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: For sure. 398 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: What's the last thing you looked that online about yourself? 399 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: And laugh? 400 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: Last thing I looked at online about myself? Then laughed? 401 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: His niggas calling me jar Jar Binks. 402 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 8: He calls me that. 403 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: I didn't know who jar Jar Binks was before this. 404 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 8: And then how did you feel like when you saw him? 405 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 5: Well, when you see the one picture from the or video, 406 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: the way my hair was, oh man, and then you 407 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: put it next to jar Jar Binks is actually hilarious 408 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 5: like this, it's funny. 409 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: You didn't laugh when they said you was on on 410 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: screen kissing the man. 411 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Okay, see this nigga romany man. That's the homie. He 412 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: from Brazil. 413 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 5: This is how he does all the homies, like, oh, 414 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: what's and we told him like yo, he didn't actually 415 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: kiss me, bro if you really look close. But yeah, 416 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: so what nigga. I had a fish in that shirt 417 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 5: on nigga. That sh it was sexy as and your 418 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 5: bitch was loving it about that. 419 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that used to be regular fish that back 420 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 6: in then. 421 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: Like I forgot what type of shirt that ship was, 422 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 5: but that she was expensive too, and I like it. 423 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: So he was the jamaking shirt back in the day. 424 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: It was did you have Did you have to explain 425 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: that to anybody? Though? 426 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: I don't ever have to explain ship. 427 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 8: You don't say. 428 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: You had to laugh though. 429 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: It was funny. I definitely called that nigga like, bruh, See, 430 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: I told your stupid ass, we don't even That's not 431 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: how it is out here. We don't do that. 432 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: What do you say? 433 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: He was like, man, I'm gonna be me every time, 434 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, I ain't got well this nigga, well 435 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: he's married and ship. 436 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 9: But yeah, what's your favorite favorite collaboration? 437 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: That your favorite collaboration I ever made is a miracle 438 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: on my first album Free TC and I was with 439 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: my brother uh TC d log my sister was singing 440 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: on their everybody I like those like family, you know 441 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: what I mean? 442 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 8: That's what's I saw you say? That is this album? 443 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: Right? 444 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 8: You said it's perfect for shrooms. 445 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: Nah, I hate shrooms. 446 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 8: An interview cap that you did during the. 447 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: Media room when I said what tycoon. 448 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 8: I thought it was Tycoon? 449 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, that must have been wrong. Nigga. 450 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 8: Again, I'm looking at it right here, it's posted. Is 451 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 8: it a live interview? But you know, maybe the. 452 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: Back back in the day. 453 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 5: Okay, shrooms, it can be fun people live, but if 454 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: a bad thing happens on shrooms, it's that same energy 455 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: of the greatness reverse. So I forgot what song it was. 456 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: I think it was motion, like this song right before 457 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 5: Vultures that I put out. I was going to do 458 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 5: radio interviews up and down California. Start off in the Bay, 459 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 5: drive down. It's just me, the red from Atlantic and 460 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 5: the driver and I'm like, you know what, I'm about 461 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 5: to take one of these little corners of this chocolate bar. 462 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: Go. Do these interviews be a funny ass? Nigga? Like, 463 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: have all the energy you feel me early morning? All 464 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: the shit? 465 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: It worked well. I went and started and did my interviews. 466 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: It was going crazy, just having fun. Then we get 467 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: back in the car and I'm looking at the phone 468 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 5: and the homies just like, well, I actually talked to 469 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: my homie the day before and he was in the 470 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 5: hospital and I was supposed to go see him the 471 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: next day. I had to go do these interviews, and 472 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 5: my plan was as soon as I got back to 473 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 5: LA I was going to go to the hospital. 474 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: But on the drive down. 475 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: They said he passed away while I'm on mushrooms in 476 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 5: the backseat by myself and nobody to talk to. And 477 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: it's just like ah yeah, and it made me just 478 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: like never want to fuck with that shit ever again. 479 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: Sorry. 480 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, long lived my brother big why yeah ship mm hmm. 481 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 9: I got something. 482 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 10: I was reduced soon as I went on. No, you 483 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 10: never did the actual plant. That was just a see chocolate. 484 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: I thought about that part too, that was the chocolate one. 485 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: And back in the day when it was the actual plant, 486 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: yeah it was. I had way better times. So I 487 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: don't know all that. 488 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 9: All that candy ship, No you need that. 489 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Maybe it was that. 490 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know the story was gonna be dark. 491 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: If I know it's gonna be. 492 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: The trip, you know what I mean, Maybe there's like that, 493 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: Maybe there's true. Maybe we just kept somebody off of 494 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: doing drugs, you feel. 495 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 9: Me, Yeah, for sure, definitely especially the chocolate. 496 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 6: You you you owned your publishing, right, Yeah, you sold 497 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 6: it in what twenty eighteen? 498 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: I think I sold some of it some of it. 499 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, tell people the importance of owning your publisher and 500 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 6: being able to do that. 501 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very important because you could sell it shut up, 502 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 5: or you could keep it and just gain more wealth, 503 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: gain more wealth and sell one day. 504 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: It's just like any business. Right you start a fashion 505 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: like a whatever, a clothing thing or a food thing 506 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: or whatever, a car company. The goal is build that 507 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: ship all the way up and then sell it move 508 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 2: to the next business. 509 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: Right, So you know, niggas don't be understanding that. 510 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: Though it's crazy, it's very simple Mathough, guys. 511 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: What what made you think long term? 512 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: That early though? 513 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Because a lot of people selling publishing out the gate? 514 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: What made you? 515 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 5: I really felt like this selling the publishing thing is 516 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 5: a newer thing that I started hearing about. I didn't 517 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: used to hear about it back in the day. Like 518 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: over the last four years, I've been hearing about people 519 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: selling the publishing. So luckily my catalog is crazy, so 520 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 5: I was able to, you know, stack up and do 521 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: a whole start a whole new business. 522 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 6: When you think about technology and AI and how it's 523 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 6: changing music. 524 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: What excites you and worries you about the future. 525 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: What worries me is the laziness of people. Right. 526 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 5: It's like, now that we have cell phones, niggas don't 527 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 5: remember numbers. Maybe that's not important, you know what I 528 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 5: mean no more, But back in the day, you have 529 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 5: to remember numbers, you have to remember directions, you have to. 530 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: Remember all the shit. Fucking I'm sure niggas in school 531 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: go right to the phone for everything instead of actually 532 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 2: using their brains. So it's gonna make people lazier. But 533 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: at the same time, it's going to create new sounds 534 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: and new shit that we didn't have before. 535 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: You know, what do you think about you know, like 536 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: they said, as an artist that somebody designed, Yeah, I 537 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: had I think a number one R. 538 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: And B record or a record where they don't actually 539 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: need the artists. You basically are the producer. 540 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: You create that artist. 541 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 4: You hate the sound, you create the song. Yeah, you 542 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: gotta worry about manager. 543 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: You ain't got to worry about glam team, you ain't 544 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: got to worry about security. 545 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: You create. 546 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's uh, I think it's fucking cool 547 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 5: for whoever figured it out and it's getting paid off 548 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: of it. But I'm curious to see how the show 549 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 5: is gonna go. You know what I'm saying, How the 550 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 5: fuck you're gonna pull that off? But if you could 551 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 5: do that and game fans, I'm I'll give another congrats 552 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 5: to whoever figures it out. But uh, you know, to 553 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 5: a person that spends their life learning their craft and 554 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: and going hard. You know, don't don't let that shit 555 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: discourage you, man, keep going, you know what I'm saying, 556 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: because I still respect motherfuckers. We really know how to 557 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: do it, like a me or a Leon Thomas, or 558 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 5: there's many people I can name. 559 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: So you ain't fuck with. 560 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 5: I will like on certain things like I'll fucking uh, 561 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: they got this thing on Serato or even on Protus 562 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 5: now where I could put a song in there and 563 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 5: just take the drums or just take the baseline, or 564 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 5: just take a background vocal or whatever. And it's cool 565 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: on some sampling ship because back in the day you 566 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: could only sample the whole track, so or. 567 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: You couldn't get an instrument, or you couldn't get a 568 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: capella to so simple. 569 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: Now. 570 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I like that part of it because I 571 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: like making beats, and I like, you know, creating sounds. 572 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 6: I wonder how that's gonna impact the writers too, because 573 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 6: if somebody just goes in and says, write me a 574 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 6: Tie dollar Sign sounding record, or write me and Leon 575 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 6: Thomas sounding record, Like, it's kind of like, if that's 576 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 6: just start getting good, they don't need y'all anymore. 577 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: In a way, I don't think it's gonna get that 578 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: good because it's not gonna have the what we're doing 579 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 5: out here on the streets. 580 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 581 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: You got to always update it so we're gonna have 582 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: it first. You know what I'm saying. 583 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 6: When you think when you talked about, you know, the 584 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 6: loss you've experienced earlier, right, how has grief reshaped your 585 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: relationship with music and your own mental health? 586 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 5: How has it reshaped it? I don't know if it 587 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 5: reshaped it, but I just have learned to keep a 588 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: focus about me. It's like, there's gonna be many hurdles 589 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: in the. 590 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: Way, and I I got tough skin. I will say that. 591 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 5: And in this business, you definitely got to have tough 592 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: skin for sure, because the bad shit is gonna come. 593 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 5: But as long as you got that focus about you 594 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 5: you can keep going cause I. 595 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: Heard you saying earlier. Now you getting up early, you 596 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: working out? Yeah? Was that It wasn't always like that, right. 597 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: I mean I had my time when I was working 598 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 5: out crazy and then I fell off, and then now 599 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 5: I'm back. It's like it's all in what you want 600 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: to do. And I felt like, I don't know. It 601 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 5: was during the pandemic, I could say, is when I 602 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: just like stopped caring and stopped like working out. And 603 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 5: then all this time it just I was putting out 604 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 5: more music, getting busy, not really like on it. But 605 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: now I started caring about that again and it feels good. 606 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 5: It was one day when my mom was like, yo, 607 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 5: do you still love what you're doing? And I was like, 608 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: of course, I still love what I was doing out. 609 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: Man. 610 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: She was like, I don't know, because you know, people 611 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 5: get tired, and I just couldn't see what she meant 612 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 5: by that, like why would I ever get tired of this? 613 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: And then. 614 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 5: Probably last year around our October, around like the same 615 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 5: time last year, I went to go perform in Miami 616 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: at this spot called eleven and bout a second song, 617 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 5: my motherfucking back went out while I was on stage, 618 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: I'm like, ah, And that's when I knew, Yo, you 619 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 5: gotta take this series again. You gotta get your shit together. 620 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 5: So now I feel like I'm fucking twenty five again. 621 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 6: That back when I was like, oh, I'm about to 622 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: be forty. 623 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: No, but you're right now. You gotta take care of absolutely. 624 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 7: Leon Thomas in his career is like such a success story. 625 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 7: I saw you call home King of R and B 626 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 7: right when you're looking for other artists? Now, is it 627 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 7: R and B that you're trying to stand a lane 628 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 7: or like what type of artists are you looking for now? 629 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 8: For your label that you have? 630 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, just like the greatest artists possible, like people that 631 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 5: are actually good, people that aren't just like you could 632 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: tell man, it's like certain people that just want to 633 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 5: get famous or just get lucky, you know what I'm saying, 634 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 5: or just have popularity. And it's like that shit be cool. 635 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: But when I was easy money, we want the real deal, you. 636 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 10: Know over at easy money, Do y'all invest in artist 637 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 10: development because that's not something that's around anymore. Like you said, 638 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 10: most people want to get famous just to be famous, 639 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 10: or you know, for the shits and giggles, the likes 640 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 10: and all that type. 641 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: If there was something that I love that much that 642 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 5: I believed in, I would invest in that. But I'm 643 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 5: more so like working with easy lifters, meaning like that 644 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 5: you got your shit together. I've I used to have 645 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 5: my old label, the Movement. I've started many labels and 646 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 5: signed many people. But now it's like Leon has been 647 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 5: the easiest person to work with. So now that's like 648 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: my blueprint. It's like, if you ain't got it like that, 649 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: then I don't even want to waste my time because 650 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: it's the same as I am. You know, I'm like 651 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 5: gonna come with a shit fully done. I'm gonna do 652 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 5: my part. So now when I get my team, it's like, 653 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: all right, you do your part, you do your part, 654 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: and we can all went together, you know what I mean. 655 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 5: So I want a person that has this shit together. 656 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: The last meeting that we went I said this in 657 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: another you, but I'm gonna tell it to y'all. The 658 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 5: last meeting we went to at a Capital motown for Leon. 659 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: This nigga pulls out his laptop. O, you. 660 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: Guys got ac in my cable. 661 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: They hook it up he PowerPoint display. This is how 662 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: the album's Finna go. These are the directors I want 663 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 5: to work with. These are the colors I want to use. 664 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 5: This is my stage data. I'm like, oh, this is 665 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 5: all I need from Utah. Can you make this happen? 666 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: I want to get Chris Brown on the song you 667 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 5: feel me like shit like that, like got your shit together. 668 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: Easy money and then it makes it easy. 669 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 7: You know, were there ever any artists that in all 670 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 7: of your label journeys that you didn't sign and now 671 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 7: you're like, oh, maybe they weren't all the way to 672 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 7: having their shit together, but I should have because now 673 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 7: I see them and they get it now. 674 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 8: Like artists you feel like you missed out on that. 675 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: I missed out on, Uh not for real, like that 676 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: I didn't have my ship together when it was like 677 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: when I first met YG So we did it more 678 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: team right, you know what I mean? But we still 679 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 5: you know, we're still rocking. He know my new song 680 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 5: I just put up small Body, Pretty Faces Kodak and 681 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 5: y G. 682 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 9: I need. I love making banger with you and Leon Thomas. 683 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 9: I got you, okay, a new question. That's what I want. 684 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: That's what I need, Joe. 685 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 9: I ain't gonna ask you no more? All right? 686 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Sign is a perfect person to do a crime with 687 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: because he ain't gonna tell the point. 688 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: I love it. 689 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean you can interrogate him all day. He's gonna 690 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: be sitting there with that hoodie on. You know you. 691 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. Todd Coon comes out on the seventeenth. 692 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: It's toie dollar sign. It is the Breakfast Club. 693 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: Good morning, every day. 694 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: Up week, click your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You 695 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: don't finish for y'all done.