1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast, presented 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Need great healthcare coverage with 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: an affordable price tag Let Farm Bureau Health Plans coach 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: you through it. They've been protecting Tennesseean's for seventy five years. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm Amy Wells. Thank you for joining us for the 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Titans Amy and Coach Mac podcast. Coach Mac is also here, 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Dame McGinnis Mac, How are you doing great? I'm just 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: dumb looking for I think I'll checked the numbers lately. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: We're pushing a million and a half and it's good, 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: so let's keep going. How are you checking these numbers? 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: I've got access to a lot of things, Yes, I do. 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: I have total axis at this point in my life 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: to a lot of things. Just some part blaunch to 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: the world. Well, some important, some I'm not important, but 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: this is important. The million and a half listeners are important. Well, 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: thank god for them all. One point five million, one 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: point five million. I like it a lot. Yeah, I 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: mean that's those are remarkable, remarkable numbers we are pulling 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: here at the Titans aiming Coachmac podcast. Speaking of things 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: we're pulling, we're pulling the page. We're turning the page, 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: I guess is what they say. I'm following you. Yeah, 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: with you turning the page. Week one did not go 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: the way the Tennessee Titans wind it to go against 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. However, we are moving on to 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Yeah. Can I say, Look, the National 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Football League is about getting prepared, playing the game, and 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: then getting ready to play the next game, regardless of 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: what the outcome was, because you've got to move forward. 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You can't revel in the victories 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: very long because you got somebody else to prepare for. 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: And you can't wallow in the losses. You got somebody 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: else to prepare for. I mean, you know, let everybody 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: else you know, either feel good or bad for a 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: long time. As a coach and a player, you got 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: to start getting ready immediately for what's going on. Correct 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: what went wrong, try to accentuate what went right, and 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: then move forward. We're moving forward, all right, Mack. In 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: your evaluation, what are some big areas of improvement that 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the Titans can focus on in Week two? Gap integrity 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: against the run. I mean, I think we saw that 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: and it's very simple. You know, anytime you go in 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: to check and to see and to correct run defense, 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: it's very easy to see really quick. You can tell 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: exactly who's not where they're supposed to be, who didn't 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: set the edge, who didn't hold contain, who missed the tackles, 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: who was out of their gaps, and that's very correctable. 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: You can do that immediately. The thing that you have 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: to be able to do procedurally is score more touchdowns 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: in the red zone, because there were You know, games 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: are not just made up of series of plays. Games 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: are made up of moments during games that can make 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: a flip as far as the strategy as to what 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: you do. One of the big moments in this game, 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, was right before the half, when 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: we were on the leven yard line and we didn't 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: score a touchdown. We had to kick a field goal 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: that's still kept in a two score game, and we 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: got the ball coming back out, but we would go 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: three and out. But what it allowed our opponent to 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: do is still continue to run the ball. If they're 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: three scores down, they've got to continue to try to 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: throw it. And we were crushing that cylinder when they 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: were trying to throw it, but we didn't. Those are 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: the ifs and butts and candy and nuts of the 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: National Football League. But that was that was a moment. 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: So you try to you try to learn from those 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: moments and you try to point it out. And I'm 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: sure Mike Vrabel does. He's very he's very specific. I'm 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: sure when he goes over things situational football. That was 70 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: a situational football moment. There were a lot of good 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: things that the Titans did as well. Sure, First of all, 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I thought I thought Ryan Tannehill ran the offense very well. 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job spread the ball out. 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: And then I thought, offensively, what I really liked offensively 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: was the number of young players we were able to play. 76 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that was really big and play 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: significant roles, starting roles, and I thought that was I 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: thought that was really big defensively early on where pass 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: rush was tremendous. The pass rush was excellent. Pressure and 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: not only pressure but getting him on the ground. All 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: of those things were very, very good, and we're talking 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: about the good. What you gotta do is you got 83 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: to continue to do that on a consistent basis and 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: then take away the things and stop the things that 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: kept you from winning, and one of them was we 86 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: gave up too many explosive plays on offense. That that 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that was another thing to their offense. We 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: gave up too many explosive plays. That the two leveling 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: factors in the National Football League, because most teams are 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: pretty even. Our turnovers, third down conversion and third down stops, 91 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: and explosive plays both made and given interesting those are 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: the what separates the average teams from the great teams. Well, 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: and the moments they are in the game when you 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: when you go and you look back. I mean, you 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: know how everybody looks at the game book afterwards, and 96 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I've looked at one hundreds of thousands of them. I 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: think those are always the mitigating factors. They're the evening 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: out factors in games. So you had mentioned the young 99 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: performances that we saw. I want to talk about the 100 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: rookies just a little bit, because according to the Tennessee 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Titans supplemental notes, which we receive from the Titans PR 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: staff every Thursday, Titans rookies accounted for half of the 103 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: team's receptions and nearly half of the receiving yards in 104 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the opener against the New York Giants, Chigaconquo, Kyle Phillips, 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: and Trailing Burke's combined for ten receptions for one hundred 106 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: and thirty two yards. That's pretty good for three rookies. 107 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: That's significant. I mean, that really is significant. And I 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: think we all thought that as to what we saw 109 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: during training camp. We continued to watch these players during 110 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: training camp, you know, as to how they were progressing, 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and I think we had an idea this was going 112 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: to happen. I was really really impressed with Kyle Phillips. 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, because he's playing a really difficult position. That 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: slot position is difficult because you're taking you're gonna take 115 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: routes and you're gonna have to it's clear space for yourself, 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: and you're gonna take some massive hits in there because 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people coming between those numbers when 118 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: you and he was doing a great job of not 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: only getting open, but holding on to the ball with 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: some critical massive hits. And you know, he had a great, 121 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: great punt return. I know, he dropped a punt and 122 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: he's beating himself up over that. Now he got bailed 123 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: out by a money hooker. A money hooker bailed him 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: out on that, but you know, you lose a possession. 125 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: But he seems to me just watching him since he's 126 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: been here in May, he's pretty much of a perfectionist 127 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and he's pretty hard on himself when things don't go right. 128 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: But I was really impressed with his game. Well, Mac, 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you bring him up because I was 130 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: able to sit down with Kyle Phillips have a little 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: chat with him and we talked about a lot of 132 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: different things, but one of the things that he really 133 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: emphasized was how hard he's working to build trust and 134 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: kind of reliability amongst everybody on the offense. So here's 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: my conversation with Kyle Fillers. Kyle, I guess we've got 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: to start with the fact that you have been generating 137 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: buzz around the National Football League pretty much since January 138 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: between everything you did in college and you were able 139 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: to accomplish during that part of your career. Then we've 140 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: got the Senior Bowl in your performance there, we've got 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the combine and the numbers that you put up there 142 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: your pro day, people were talking about you. Then you 143 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: get drafted and you come here, you have a great 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: rookie performance during you know, Ricky minicamps and OTAs and 145 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Napple are still talking about you and what you're able 146 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to do, So I would have to assume that it's 147 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of a twofold thing. On one hand, great to 148 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: have the recognition. On the other hand, is that a 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: lot of pressure to put on someone in their rookie 150 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: season in the NFL. I wouldn't really say so. You know, 151 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't really get on social media too much, and 152 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, look what people are saying a lot of stuff, 153 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: some kind of focused on being here and you know, 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: doing what I can to help this team win. So 155 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: let me tell you something that's about on social media. 156 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Then a lot of people have called you the next 157 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro your thoughts. It's cool to hear, but as 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: probably heard many guys say, you know, we don't really 159 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: do comparisons here. We're just focused on, you know, what's 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: going on in this building and just win a whole 161 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: lot of football games. Do you think that you guys 162 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: have similar attributes when it comes to like playing styles 163 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: and things like that. Yeah, definitely, mostly playing the slot. 164 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, both a little short, not not the fastest, 165 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: being no quick And this is one thing I actually 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: did see we both have. You know, I'm not the 167 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: best hairline, so it's another thing we've got going for us. 168 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Is that a real thing that people say? Yeah, I've 169 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: definitely seen that a couple times. So it's pretty funny 170 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, it doesn't offend me. The comparisons 171 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: never stop. Well, another thing that people say about you, 172 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and I think you'll like this one a little bit better. 173 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: They talk about your versatility and the fact that you're 174 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: able to do a lot of different things on the 175 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: football field. Where does that do it all kind of 176 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: ability come from? I think it kind of comes from college. 177 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, UCLA they want to play the guys that 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: know the whole offense. They can kind of put him 179 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: in any spot and you know have success there. So 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: God thank coach Kelly for that one. You know, we 181 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: weren't going in just learning one spot. You're learning the 182 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: whole offense. That way, like I said, you go in 183 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: any spot and have success. Learning the whole offense in 184 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: college has got to make it easier for you now 185 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: as a pro to be learning the nuances of the game. 186 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: And even though it's the same position sort of there's 187 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: a lot of differences at this next level. Right, Yeah, 188 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: definitely makes it easier just looking at conceptually and not 189 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: just learning a certain spot. You know, you're learning why 190 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: the routes look a certain way and the purpose of 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: them instead of just learning the routes on the paper. 192 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: So it definitely helps a lot. What's it been like 193 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: working with Robert Woods. It's been amazing, you know, It's 194 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: it's like having another coach in the room. He's just 195 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: has so much knowledge of the game, you know, not 196 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: just passing offense. You know, defense is the run game everything, 197 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: so you know, just seeing next to many meetings or 198 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: even down in practice field. So let's give you little 199 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: little side notes here and there, and they helped tremendously. Now, 200 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: is he someone you've been familiar with for a while, 201 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: given that you were both kind of in LA at 202 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah, so you know, we both come 203 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: from LA. He unfortunately went to the rival schools. You know, 204 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: we got a little love hate relationship there. But yeah, 205 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: I've known about him for for a good amounts of it. 206 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Seems like in a couple of times i've heard you speak, 207 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: you talk a lot about relationships and building trust with 208 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: different people in the field. As a receiver. Why is 209 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: that so important to you being able to do your job. Yeah. Well, 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: first thing is, you know, the coaches gotta trust you 211 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: do you can put you on the field, So that's 212 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: hugely there. And then just with other receivers, you know, 213 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: some of the balls are gonna be catching little blind 214 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: so you gotta trusting they're doing their jobs, you know, 215 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: help you get you open as well. And then the 216 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: last one of the biggest ones just having that trust 217 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: with the quarterback and just knowing you're gonna be in 218 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the right spot and just having that connection with them, 219 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: you know where they're able to let the ball go 220 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier and throw it into tighter windows 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: and then that you'll come down with the ball. What 222 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: can you do to foster that relationship with someone like 223 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill? Just come success with reps on the field, 224 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: just through whether it's seven on team periods, one on one, 225 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: it's just you know, winning the matchup coming down with 226 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: the ball. Is there off field things you can do 227 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: as well to kind of build those relationships. Yeah, definitely. 228 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: You know in the offseason we would get together, throw 229 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: a little bit and just you know, work on our 230 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: chemistry together and just catch a whole lot of passes. 231 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: What do you like about being part of a Mike 232 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Vrabel coach team. I love it. You know, he's he's 233 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: a guy that's played, so you know that's that's huge. 234 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: You understand what it's like to be on the field. 235 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: He's not just someone's you know who's looking at from 236 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: the sideline telling you this. That he's actually experienced it firsthand. 237 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: So you know everything he says, you know, you truly 238 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: buy into and truly believe. Okay, last question, now I'll 239 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: let you go. What is something that people would be 240 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: surprised to learn about Kyle Phillips coming from San Diego 241 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: and how I address Everyone always assumes I'm a surfer skater, 242 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: but I don't do either of those. So seriously, Yeah, 243 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: have you tried and not been able to or you're 244 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: just not about that. I've tried, and you know it 245 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: wasn't very good of it, of course, but I enjoyed it. 246 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Got out there, you know, get on surfboards every now, 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm not very good. So the California boy without the 248 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: surf exactly, Kyle Phillips. That's a great interview. The thing 249 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: about it is, though you can tell how serious he 250 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: is and he's been serious about this craft since he 251 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: got here. And you know you've got you've got a 252 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: later round pick that when you when you vetted him 253 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: and watched him at UCLA, you just saw a guy 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: that continued to make place. He just he always showed up. 255 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: He's always showed up, and he showed up at critical times. 256 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm really glad we have him. Me too, I'm glad 257 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: he's part of this team. And I'm excited to be 258 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: part of a team that had so much young performance 259 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of guys who were rookies and first 260 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: and second year players really contribute early in the season 261 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: because you know, the sky's the limit for those guys. Well, 262 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: it's important that the loss was disappointing, but there are 263 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: some things in there that you can take. We've got 264 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: sixteen to these things left. And this this this season, 265 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: it always is a grind. And so as I said, 266 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: as we said it, get into this podcast, you've got 267 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: to accentuate what you did well, correct what you did wrong. 268 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: When you go into these meetings. You know, after a game, 269 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: whether it's a win or a loss, when you go 270 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: into team meetings, you're going to break down meetings. It's 271 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: got to be like the what happens with the top 272 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: gun people. It's got to be a nameless, rankless debriefing. 273 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: Everybody takes their name tags off their shirts, take your 274 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: stripes off your sleeves, and just here's exactly what happened, 275 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: good and bad. Now, let's fix it. And that's it's 276 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: not anything personal. It's let's fix it. And that's what 277 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: they're doing. Mack. You mentioned that the Tennessee Titans have 278 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: sixteen more games left this season, but there is only 279 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: one Monday Night football. You are right, and that is 280 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: what the Titans are looking ahead to. They're playing on 281 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: Monday Night against the Buffalo Bills. The Tangs are eight 282 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: and two in their last ten Monday Night games. That's 283 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: pretty impressive, it is, I mean, it really is impressive. 284 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, playing in prime time it's different. You know, 285 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I've been evolved in a lot of them as a coach, 286 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: and it's different. I mean, people, you know, say, well, 287 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: these are professionals, so there's really no difference. Well there's 288 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: a difference because you just the atmosphere is different. You 289 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: feel it. Plus your preparation week is different. You know, 290 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: you've got an altered preparation schedule, and so you know, 291 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel has always done a great job with his 292 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: altered schedules letting the players and everybody involved know exactly 293 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: what to look forward to before you even get to 294 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: these altered weeks. But it's look, you're it's Monday Night, 295 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: it's National nobody else is playing that. It's you, and 296 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: it's your opponent. Yeah, it's a it's a great thing. 297 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean I love it. I loved it as a coach. 298 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I know our fans love it. You love it. We 299 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: all love it. And so that's what you're getting ready for. 300 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The Titans are playing the Bills, of course, 301 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. This is their fifth consecutive year 302 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: playing the Bills. Five. That's crazy to see a non 303 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: divisional opponent that many times, well, just in consecutive years. 304 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: It's because where you finish in your division, you know 305 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: most of the time, most of the time, it's where 306 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: you're finish in your division, and then you know every 307 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: now and then you play that in time division. And 308 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: so yes, I mean this is a familiar opponent, a 309 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: very familiar opponent. I mean, when we started doing our 310 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: breakdowns like we always do to get ready for you 311 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: get ready for a pregame broadcast. It's very familiar names, 312 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: and it's very familiar people. And the players on this 313 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: squad that have played they know who these guys are. 314 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: And Buffalo. Buffalo is a really good football team. I mean, 315 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: you just want to strip away the fact that they're 316 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: an opponent. Just start looking at them and start analyzing them. 317 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: They're a very, very good football team. And not even 318 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: starting to begin with how nuts that place is going 319 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: to be because it's going to be rocking and rolling, 320 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: and I mean there may be no beer left in 321 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Orchard Park by the time that game kicks off. Or tables, 322 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean all the tables will be smashed in half. 323 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: There will be no beer left in the place. It's 324 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna be rowdy, which is so much fun. Do you 325 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: think that playing such a familiar opponent makes it a 326 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: little bit easier to be preparing for them in an 327 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: altered schedule because there's some base sick elements that you're 328 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: already kind of familiar with. I think you're right, You're 329 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: absolutely right there. There is something to that because it's 330 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: just not brand new. You know, you don't have the 331 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: altered schedule. Plus somebody brand new that you gotta familiarize 332 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: yourself with your matchups. And that's a really good point 333 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: that you make, because that matters. It does matter, and 334 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: it matters for the coaches getting ready, and I mean 335 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: it just it matters because any little bit of familiarity 336 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: that you have really helps in preparation. So playing on 337 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football is exciting for a lot of different reasons. 338 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: The beer is one of them, but also what makes 339 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: Monday Night football Monday Night Football is the broadcast and 340 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of pomp and circumstance between the pregame 341 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: show and down on the field. They've got the setup. 342 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: It's very exciting. There's banners everywhere, there's just a different buzz. 343 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: And I had the opportunity to chat a little bit 344 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: with Laura Rutledge, who is going to be a part 345 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: of the broadcast on Monday Night It's gonna be down 346 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and which talked about a lot of 347 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: different things. But what I want to share with you, 348 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: Mac is her evaluation of this matchup a little bit. 349 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: She talks about Josh Allen, she talks about Derek Henry, 350 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: and she talks about kind of their rise to what 351 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: they have become. So I want to share with you 352 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: my conversation with Laura Relich. So I feel like I 353 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: need to ask you first about Bill's quarterback, Josh Allen. 354 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: He's someone who you followed since his college days, watching 355 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: him throughout his college career. Are you surprised by the 356 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: success that he's having now in the NFL? You know, 357 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: I am a little bit surprised because if you remember 358 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: the story around him, it was okay coming out of 359 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: a smaller school, and there were some things that needed 360 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: to be refined. But I think what I shouldn't be 361 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: surprised about is the way that he's had immediate success almost. 362 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there was a bit of a learning curve, 363 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: but you look at how quick he's been able to 364 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: become one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL, and 365 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I think so much of it goes back to his brain. 366 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: He's an incredibly smart quarterback. And a lot of times 367 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: with these quarterbacks that had the physical traits like a 368 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you notice that you notice, you know, the 369 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: big body, and he can be such a bruising runner 370 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: if needed, and then obviously can throw the football so well. 371 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: But really what separates him, and I think what's allowed 372 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: for the quick success and the quick learning of how 373 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: to operate as an NFL quarterback and how to win 374 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: huge games, it all goes back to his brain. And 375 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: I was actually speaking with someone who was pretty involved 376 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: in the Bills kind of vetting out of all the 377 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were available in that draft class, and this 378 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: person told me that Josh Allen impressed him so well 379 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: with his recall of anything schematic in their conversations with him, 380 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: and that that was something that very early on made 381 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: them fall in love with him, because they said, listen, 382 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: there are some things we can fix when it comes 383 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: to technical side of it, but what we can't really 384 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: fix all the time is someone's just natural ability to 385 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: recall and the brain and the understanding of football and 386 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: the way that they wanted it to be. So certainly 387 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: Brian Dable, you know, who's now moved on to the Giants, 388 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: deserves a ton of credit in Josh Allen's development. But 389 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: I think we're we probably missed sometimes in talking about 390 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: Allan's own development, is that he already had the foundation 391 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: and plays just with his football mind, and we can't 392 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: talk enough about that. So it's been really fun to 393 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: watch him get to the point that he's at, and 394 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he does this year because 395 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: the last time we really remember seeing him it was 396 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: in that crazy game against the Chiefs, and you just 397 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: wondered if he had had one more opportunity, really, you know, 398 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: could he have won that game? I think a lot 399 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: of us feel like they probably could have the same question. 400 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: But this time for Derrick Henry. We know he was 401 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: a Heisman winner in college. Obviously you expect them to 402 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: be good, but that doesn't always translate at the next level, 403 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: especially in terms of longevity for a running back. I mean, 404 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: this is his seventh season. Does that surprise you? You 405 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: know it doesn't. And I'll rat on myself a little 406 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: bit here with Derrick Henry because I covered him all 407 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: the way back to his days at Yulee High School 408 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: when he was being recruited by Alabama and many other schools, 409 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: and at that time, my background being on the recruiting side, 410 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversation about whether or not he 411 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: would really be a running back, and I was guilty. 412 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: This tweet always comes up on that freezing cold takes 413 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: where people they wrap people out for bad takes. So 414 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I had a tweet back in you know whatever it was, 415 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, twentyven or maybe earlier than that, where 416 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I really think Derrick Henry projects 417 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: as a defensive end with the body type and all that. Yeah, 418 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: who was wrong this girl? And he just continues to 419 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: impress as one of the best running backs in the 420 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: entire NFL. And I think one of the things about 421 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: him that is most impressive and probably one of the 422 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: reasons for his longevities, just the fact that the workload 423 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: never seems to really bother him. I realized he was 424 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: banged up at times last year, but even when he 425 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: came back, you know, you really saw him still be 426 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: that running back that ends up getting better as the 427 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: game goes along. It's almost like the game gets into 428 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter and he's like, all right, 429 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: it's go time for me, even though he's been just 430 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: an absolute force to be reckoned with prior to that too. 431 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: So you know, once again, I believe we'll see a 432 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: Titans offense that is squarely focused around him in a 433 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of ways, and it should be, and especially with 434 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, you've got trailing Burks, who's who I am 435 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: a big fan of but he is a rookie. It's 436 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: going to take some time to get him, you know, 437 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: up to the level that you really want him to get. 438 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: I think he's going to impress fans a lot early on, 439 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: but they're also going to be those rookie moments which 440 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: we all have seen happen, and it shouldn't be you know, 441 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: this sort of direct comparison to a J. Brown, which 442 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: it may be in some ways. I don't think that's 443 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: necessarily fair to a young guy coming in. But either way, 444 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: the big failsafe in all of this is Derrick Henry. 445 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: Just you know, let let him do his thing and 446 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: nobody defensively wants to try and stop him. And really 447 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: people don't have a lot of success doing that. So 448 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun watching Derrick Henry continue 449 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: to proof knee wrong all the way back years ago 450 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: when I thought he should have been a defensive end. 451 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: He is will go down as one of the best 452 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: running backs to ever play the game. See, I don't 453 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: know in your defense, he is approximately the size of 454 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: a defense. He see, and he's mean, And I'll give 455 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: it to you. I think I think I'll give it 456 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: to you, a young Derrick Henry probably looked like a 457 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: defensive end in high school. He listen either way, he 458 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: looked like he was going to be a great football 459 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: player at both the college and the pro level. And 460 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: turns out that was definitely true. Yes, spot on. So 461 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: what does it mean to you to be part of 462 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football? I mean it's a storied franchise. You 463 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: can't talk about the NFL without talking about Monday Night 464 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Football and you're going to be a part of it. Yeah, 465 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: it's such a pinch me moment in so many ways, 466 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: And every time I hear it, I feel like I 467 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: get chills just thinking about it. And you know, it's 468 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: there are a lot of times when we're in the 469 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: grind of the career and you know, you're trying to see, Okay, 470 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: what's the next thing, and it becomes a bit of 471 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: a even just more about the schedule, like Okay, I've 472 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: got to go here and I've got to go there, 473 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: and and I really am trying to find the time 474 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: to relish in these moments and be really thankful for them. 475 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: And even just like the moment where you're standing on 476 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: the field and you're looking around and you're holding the 477 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: microphone and thinking, wow, you know, I'm about to go 478 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: live in front of millions of people to watch Monday 479 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: night football, and especially for this game, you know, with 480 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: the Titans and the Bills. Just so many eyeballs on 481 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: it and so many people that care about it, and 482 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: I realize that they could hand that microphone to so 483 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: many other people, and so to be given this opportunity 484 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: just means the world to me. And I think in 485 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: the other side of it is it does come with 486 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, but I always believe that that 487 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: pressure is something that truly is a privilege, and so 488 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I cannot wait for the game, and 489 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: I will do everything I can to take lots of 490 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: deep breasts and calm my nerves before we go on here. 491 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: But really, I mean just just so incredibly thankful and 492 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: um at the end of the day, just beyond my 493 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: wildest dreams of anything I would have imagined for myself. 494 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: We'll be looking for you in Buffalo, sunny Buffalo, and 495 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: thank you for taking some time to hang out with us. 496 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: Of course, I appreciate you so much, so much. Fun. 497 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Laura Rutledge has some great insight, very good insight, and 498 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: of course, what I really like and as you said, 499 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: the research that these people do for these broadcasts, and 500 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: especially these these primetime broadcasts, they go deep into it, 501 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: and so I mean, I really like it. We we 502 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: do a lot of research for what we do, because 503 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: that's just that's our job, you know, to be able 504 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: to do research and then be able to have our 505 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: broadcast bring things that you know, people sometimes may not 506 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: think about. But that was that was some good insights. Yeah, 507 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: she's great. I'm excited to see her on Monday down 508 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. But let's talk a little bit about 509 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: the Bills. You've been doing your research, You've been watching 510 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: tape just like you do every single week. What have 511 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: you seen of the twenty twenty two Bills. Let's start 512 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: with defense. Less Frasier the defensive coordinator. I'm got a 513 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: long history with him. He was a Super Bowl shufflebear 514 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: in one of the starting cornerbacks with LA Mike Richardson 515 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: on the other side, and less Frasier wasn't was a 516 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: really good player. But the way I would describe less 517 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: as temperament as a player was he as a corner especially, 518 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: he was very patient. He was patient. He never he 519 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: never got really off center. He was very balanced, and 520 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: everything that he did, the way he approached it. That's 521 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: the way he is as a coach, the same the 522 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: way he was as an assistant coach. It's the way 523 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: he is as a coordinator. He was like this as 524 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: a as a head coach. He's he's a really, really 525 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: kind of a soft spoken guy, he really is, but 526 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: he's very measured in what he does, and he's very 527 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: very bright. He's very very smart. Hit This defense that 528 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: he has, this is this is a complete polar opposite 529 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: of the defense that we faced last week as to 530 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: where you know, Wink Martindale, you know, with blitz from 531 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: the top of the building and do anything that he 532 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: had to do to bring as many people as he 533 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: could less. Frasier plays four down and brings four people 534 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: most of the time and plays a two high safety, 535 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: which means he's got he's got he's got his two 536 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: safeties that are that are playing you know, back there, 537 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: and he'll he'll bring them down, he'll rotate them down, 538 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: he'll rock and roll his safeties, which means he'll bring 539 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: him down to the close side, which is the tight inside, 540 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: or the open side, which is the split side, he 541 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: looks too deep prior to the stamp, then he'll bring 542 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: him down post snap. So but it's a very basic, 543 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: fundamentally sound defense. And by doing that, he just keeps 544 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: calling it over and over and over again, and he 545 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: expects his players to out execute the opponent. And he's 546 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: got some really really good players right now on his defense. 547 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: He's sitting back there, I think, with two really really excellent, 548 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, safeties back there in the back. Jordan Poyer. 549 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: I've always been a huge, huge fan of, you know, 550 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: as a guy that I think he's a lot like 551 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Byard. He just gets it and he's a really 552 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: good field general out there. He's got his two inside, 553 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: his two linebackers. He plays a lot of nickel defense's 554 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: two linebackers and they're both different types of linebackers. And 555 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Tormaintoe is an anomaly in the National Football League right now. 556 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: He's he's he's six to five, he's you know, two 557 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds, which is different now in 558 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League. But he's so long. He really 559 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: closes and erases a lot of windows in zone coverage. 560 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: He's a great eraser to the end. Then Milano is 561 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: an excellent coverage linebacker, excellent in zone, excellent in man 562 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: to man. And then he's got some he's got he's 563 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: got people up front. Von Miller, you know, has just 564 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: has just come there. He's got a j epinessa and 565 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: they wanted to get bigger, so they brought Phillips back. 566 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: They got de Kuan Jones in there, and so you're 567 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: gonna see some he rotates about seven or eight guys 568 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: up front. You're gonna see just a four man rush 569 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: basically most of the time, with two high safeties and 570 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: then road tating down post snap. But he plays very 571 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: basic football. What about on the offensive side of the ball, 572 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: What can the Titans do to disrupt their offensive effort? Well, 573 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: first of all, Josh Shallen is I mean, he's at 574 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: another level right now. I mean their last ball game 575 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: against the Rams, nine of ten on third down, I mean, 576 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: that's insane. He was their leading rusher even you know, 577 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: going back and studying that game, even in the fourth 578 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: quarter when they're close to boat racing the Rams, when 579 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: it got away from the Rams, they were still calling 580 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: runs with him. So this is a guy you're gonna 581 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: have to defend the whole field. You're gonna have to 582 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: play a plus one sometimes to be able to take 583 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: care of his planned runs and then his off schedule runs. 584 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: And here's what he's done ever since he's coming from Wyoming, 585 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Amy Big. The big question about him coming in from 586 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: Wyoming was he's got a tremendous arm, but he's got 587 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: a fastball and he's not accurate. That is, he has 588 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: completely worked himself into a premier quarterback. Now he's got 589 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: all the touch, he understands that he they spread things out. 590 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: He runs the offense, you know, from the line of scrimmage, 591 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: and so I mean, this guy is an issue for 592 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: a defense and he's going to be and plus you know, 593 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: now he's got he's got some he's got some receivers. 594 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: They run. They run mostly eleven personnel, which is three 595 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: wide one type one back. Dawson Knox, you know, the 596 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: local local player from Brentwood Academy, is a really good, 597 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: really really good tight end and they use him in 598 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: a lot of different places. They lost Beasley as a 599 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: slot man, replaced him with Isaiah Mackenzie, who is excellent, 600 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: you know at what's going on. And so to me, 601 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: he's got guys that are playmakers and he's getting in 602 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: the ball. Look, they haven't punted. They haven't punted in 603 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: probably ten years, it seems like, because they convert third downs. 604 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a really really well balanced offense 605 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: that's got some spectacular players, and starting with their quarterback, 606 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: they've got a spectacular quarterback. Big challenge, huge challenge, but 607 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: not insurmountable. Well, they've done it two years in a row. 608 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they've done it two years in a row. 609 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: You just got to make plays and you can't try 610 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: to do anything unusual. Butt going back to when we 611 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: started this podcast about you know what needs to be 612 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: corrected from last week. You've got to be gap sound, 613 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: You've got to be edged sound. You've got to be very, 614 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: very disciplined, because they're disciplined, and so you've got to 615 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: match that discipline that they have. And it's got to 616 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: be a snap after snap after snap. We talk about 617 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: moments in the game. There's gonna be two or three 618 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: moments in this game where if we win those moments 619 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: and it's gonna flip it for us. And you know, 620 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: if you don't win those moments, then it makes it 621 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: harder to come back and win. Are you gonna get 622 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: buffalo wings when we go up there. No, you don't 623 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: eat buffalo wings. No, I mean the buffalo wings up there. 624 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean I've been to the original place where they 625 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: had them. I mean they're there. It's okay, it's I 626 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: mean it's it's but there's people have taken the buffalo 627 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: wing thing and improved it wherever you go. I mean so, 628 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: and plus, look, I'm not sure I want to go 629 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: out to where the buffalo wings place is because there 630 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: maybe one or two buffalo fans out there, and I 631 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: don't want to get involved in a table jumping contest 632 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: or any of that stuff. The last time we were 633 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, I think I went to a random Chinese 634 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: food restaurant that was empty. So maybe that's where I'll 635 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: go again. Well, and I say, the buffalo wings are great, 636 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: but there's a place you said average. Well they are average. 637 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's some places here in Nashville that 638 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: have got really good wings. Wow, the original chicken wing 639 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: is just okay. Well it is just okay, I mean 640 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: because they just use chickens. Well, yeah, they use chickens. 641 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: It's a chicken wing. It's not any special chicken. It's 642 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: a chicken Mac, This is like bulletin board material. Coach 643 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Max says, the Buffalo Buffalo Wing is just okay. Put 644 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: my name on that too, Please, Dave mcginni, please please 645 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: put coach back and come see him if you don't 646 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, and they probably will. They'll find you. 647 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: That's okay, Oh my gosh, anything else you would like 648 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: to add before we just completely go off the rails. 649 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: We're not off the rails, not yet. No, we're not. 650 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: We're trying to the rails. Is this, to me, is 651 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: why you're in this business. You want these kind of games. 652 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: This is what you want. This is why we are 653 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: all in it. This is why I got in it 654 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: so long ago. This is why you're in It's why 655 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Ashley's in it. That you want this, this is what 656 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: you want. And they need a good week of practice. 657 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing this thing on wine. This 658 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be fun, Mac, It is gonna be a 659 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: lot of fun. All right. Well, thank you all so 660 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: much for tuning into the Titans Amy and Coach Mac podcast. 661 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: We're heading to Buffalo for some average chicken wings and 662 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: a fantastic Monday night football game. We'll catch you guys 663 00:32:47,240 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: later in love. The be