1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you one thing about Jason Brown. He 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: was instrumental in the way I dressed. He said to me, well, 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: you look good, but you dressed like a mortician. I 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: will black nor suit with a white shirt and black 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: to the head and form he says, which is some 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: peaks and some greens and wait on it? What because 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: fifty percent is what you look like when you hit 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: that stage, you know? And he was right. 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast, where your host 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Buzz Knight speaks with musicians and insiders who've been part 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: of making music history. On this episode, a man who 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: was friends with Marvin Gang, the Supremes, James Brown, Itken, 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Tina Turner, and so many more. His name is Robin 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Mohite and he was known as Round Robin. He was 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: part of Dick Clark's Caravan of Stars, which traveled the 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: country playing shows in conjunction with Dick Clark's American Bandstand. 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Robin's a colorful storyteller. His new book's called A Believer's Perspective, 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: highlights his deeply spiritual journey. Here's Pusnight with Robin Lloyd 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: on the Taking a Walk Podcast. 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Robin Lloyd welcome, sir to the Take of a Walk podcast. 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, it's good. Good to take this little 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: walk with you. 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: All right. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: Well, since it's called taken a walk, Robin, I want 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: to ask you if you could take a walk with 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: somebody living or dead, who would you take a walk 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 3: with and where do you think you'd take a walk 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: with that person. 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: I'd probably take a walk with a good friend of mine, 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: But I don't know if you know HB. Bornum. HB. 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Bornhum was we've known each other for about sixty two years, 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: and he was Aretha Franklin's conductor and ranging for a 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: number of years. But he also he did a lot 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: of arranging for a lot of people. But we've remained 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: friends and we spend a lot of time together. It 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: would be HB. 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: Bornum and somewhere out in the LA area maybe. 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. He lives in Woodland Hills. Moved. He moved from 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: Mowholland after being there for sixty years and fighting moved. 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: And HB has had some fairly notorious in a good 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: way work in his career, hasn't he. 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's arranged for Barry White, who when I 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: went to school with and we're you know, from h 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: fourteen till they passed HB born on Al Wilson. He's 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: arranged for the Four Tops, which Holland, OJI and Holland. 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: I don't know people know, but Brian Holland now moved 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: from Vegas and he lives here in Texas and we 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: we we you know, we get together every now and 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: then and he's arranged for them a number of people. 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: Lou Rawls, you know. 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: Sure, Oh my god, all legends, all legends. Well, we're 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: going to talk about your new book, A Believer's Perspective 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 3: in a little bit, but I wanted you to take 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: us back first of all, Well, what was the first 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: moment you remember in your life that deeply connected you 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: with music and that kind of told you you were 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: going to lead a life that was heavily involved with music. 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: Well, for me, I would imagine it was probably when 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: I was nine years old. We lived in Los Angeles 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: all my life, and it takes a book The Guitar Player, 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: for believe it or not, Ray Charles. We went at 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: the house at forty second Place in Long Beach Boulevard, 64 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: and he lived in the little house and I said, Mom, 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: why do we live in the big house and he 66 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: lives well, he traveled a lot, but he needed somebody 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: to watch, and so we lived there and I would 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: always when they come off the road. And at that 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: time I had no idea who Ray Charlso they just 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: knew this band and it struck me and I wanted 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: to be I want to be at the band. First. 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to play a guitar and piano and whatever. 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: But it goes back to then, but I was always 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: around musicians for some reason. You know, Lowell Fulson was 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: a blues player. It was just always around a lot 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: of musicians and that that and it's party like in 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: the fifties. It was probably like being in New York 78 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: with I have friends of like Little Anthony, the Imperials. 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: You know, we still he lives in Florida, and you know, 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: Clarence lives in Vegas and we get together every now 81 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: and then. But we just kids, you know, have always 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: We didn't even think anything about it. We was just 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: having fun and that's it, you know. No, there's no 84 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: magical formula to it. It was just that's what I 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: wanted to be a musician. 86 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: So there was never probably I'm guessing a plan B 87 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: in your career. It was always going to be there 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: was Plan A or nothing. 89 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, plan Plan B was. I have a business law 90 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: degree and I went to college. I got man Associates 91 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: of Arts degree in business law, and music was my minor. 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: I made my first recording when I was fourteen, and 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: it's on YouTube now. It's called Teenagers Lettle by George 94 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: and Gene. But I had a manager, Chili Berger, who 95 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: was the manager for Scanduri and Shane, and they had 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: each manager was assigned to five different people. My manager 97 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: was Cherlie Berger who me and you may not know, 98 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 2: but he left Scandur and Sharing to manage one group, 99 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: the Temptations, and didn't wanted to take me with him. 100 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: And I said, well, no, that's a that's a soul group. 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm a pop artist that was with Caravender stars Nick 102 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: Clark at that particular time. But we were mary friends also. 103 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: But he used to tell me, he says, do you 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: want to be a record artist or an entertainer? I said, 105 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: I want to make hit the records and he said, 106 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: I can't use you. I said why and he said, 107 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: because a record artist is only as big as as 108 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: last record, but an entertainer will take one record and 109 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: work all the time. And that is what gave me 110 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: my plan B of I have to make this a business, 111 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: and it was a business. Then I think I think 112 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Chili Berger for that and HB born them those two people. 113 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: So what led you to this amazing part of your 114 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: journey the Dick Clark Caravan of Stars? First of all, 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: tell everybody what the Dick Clark Caravan of Stars was 116 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: and how you got to it. 117 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: Well, most people don't realize, but you Yeah, it's a 118 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: lot of hits out there on YouTube, but the Caravan 119 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: of Stars were everybody that you saw that appeared on 120 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: American Man's stand. The reason that we came into your 121 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: home every week. He got this great idea, like you 122 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: or you know, bringing everybody together and talk to this conversation. 123 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: He said, if I can bring these artists into your 124 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: home every day, I can bring him into your town. 125 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: And we had a winter tour, a summer tour, and 126 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: the fall tour, and he would get together where it 127 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: was three tours. One would be chriss Cross, one would 128 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: go because different artists had different hit songs in different 129 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: parts of the town. You know I too, And the 130 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: most popular one was the summer tour, which I did, 131 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: and that's how we got That's how we did that. 132 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: But there was people like I travel with Daniel Rawson, 133 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: the Supremes, Jean Pitney, Freddie Cannon, Major Lance, who is 134 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: a daughter is Keisha Lance, who's the mayor of Atlanta, 135 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: Georgia at this particular time. Different people, the Charelles, the Coasters, 136 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: the Drifters, Little Anthony Imperials, Brenda Holloway. So these are 137 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: people that I trouble with. And it's at ninety day, 138 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: one nighters, one night is you got one day off 139 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: and you appeared like for instance, that we appeared in 140 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh at the Syria Mosque. The next night we'd be 141 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: in William, West Virginia, and we'd trouble there and we'd 142 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: come back and spend the night in Pittsburgh, and then 143 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: we'd travel on to the next place, which would be 144 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: somewhere in Washington, b c. You know, but it was 145 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: it was fantastic. We would travel Tom Jones is a 146 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: bunch of us, and then we would meet the three 147 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: tours would meet for one big show in Montreal with 148 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: Beale Shannon and it was the crystals you you name them, 149 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: and it was like thirty seven acts. And if you 150 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: ever get a poster, my daughter who is now a 151 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: voice actress for Disney Miller Lady, she's the voice of 152 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: Ticket and the Records ladybook. She got a hold of 153 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: this poster and we were appearing and you could see 154 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: eighteen acts and only eighteen X was the Chirrell's, the Coasters, 155 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: Jean Pitney, Brian Hyland, you know, you name it. It was 156 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: Brenda Holloway. Two dollars and fifty CITs pre sale, three 157 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: dollars at the door. 158 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Wow. Look now, Robin, how many songs would each 159 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: act do? Did it depend on who the act was? 160 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 161 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: I got to do three songs. 162 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 163 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: And for instance Lynn Anthony Imperials they got to do four, 164 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: you know, and different than but the like for instance 165 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: the Crystals they did two songs. The Shurrell's got to 166 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: do three songs. So it was that way, you know, 167 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Britain Holloway did two. The show lasted, I mean we 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: hit the Allentown the County Fair in Allentown, Pennsylvania, and 169 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: you know, and you know, the show started at eight. 170 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: The last act left at eleven o'clock. 171 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: You know, must have been a production nightmare for the 172 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: people putting it together. 173 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: To keep it flowing, we had a band, you know, 174 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: you brought your music. The band was Jimmy Ford. Excellent musicians, 175 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, young musicians at that time. But they in 176 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: turn did whatever they did. When I wasn't on tour 177 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: with the Dick Clark caravan, I was on tour with 178 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: James Brown when he that's what he did, pick up 179 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: different artists the same formula. I was, you know, West 180 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: Coast artists, and I did twelve or fourteen days with 181 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 2: Patty Leabelle at that time they were called Patty the 182 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: Bell and the Bluebells. But again it was just fun, 183 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: but it was our job. 184 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 185 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Yes, My journey was when I realized that I was 186 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: just doing it for the money. It was no longer fun. 187 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, which took you on another part of the journey, 188 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: which we're going to talk about. I just want to 189 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: touch a little bit more on a couple of aspects 190 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 3: of the Caravan of Stars, but I want to touch on. 191 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: Working with James Brown. 192 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: Were you ever fined by James Brown for not you know, 193 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: playing the notes right or whatever. 194 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't part of his bed Now his band was, 195 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: but I was an act. When he'd pick up certain 196 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: acts like we had Bobby Freeman, we had the fifty Mention, 197 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: we had myself and I did three songs. But I'll 198 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,479 Speaker 2: tell you one thing about Jayson Brown. He was instrumental 199 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: in the way I dressed. He said to me, well, 200 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: you look good, but you dressed like a mortician. I 201 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: will black more suit with a white shirt and black amplement. 202 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: He says, put you some peaks and some greens and 203 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: wear on the whatcuse is what you look like when 204 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: you hit that stage, you know? And he was right. 205 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: I started dressing with colors, and he was you know, 206 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: you always hear certain things, you know, but he was 207 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: really instrumentally helping certain people. 208 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: You know. 209 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: They all other thing, you know. I traveled with I 210 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Cantina Turner, I've opened up for the Righteous Brothers, you know, 211 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: Diane Carroll at the Playboy Club, and so we always 212 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: I was an intervener, you know. 213 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So back to the caravan again. 214 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: So talk about your experiences in the caravan with with 215 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: Marvin gay. 216 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you Marvin Gaye was a He was 217 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: a gentleman. I mean, he had his cooks, but he 218 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: was always shy. 219 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: You know. 220 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: We didn't want tour with him. But in Marmon Gaye 221 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: was after and I said, you know, you know, people 222 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: want to hear certain things, but that Marvin Gaye that 223 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: I know would not be the Marvin Gaye that you 224 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't know, you know. I mean we would sit down 225 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: and and and eat certain places and do certain things. 226 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: But it was just a bunch of us kids who 227 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: were kids, you know. So what I knew of him 228 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: was different from what everybody else would know. 229 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: You know. 230 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: Then after the tour he became something else. You know, 231 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: that Marvin Gaye I didn't know, you know, I didn't 232 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: know the James Brown. I knew that James Brown from 233 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: the sixties and fifties, and but I didn't know that 234 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: James Brown from the seventies. Change. It's just as I've 235 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: changed the round robin, you know, from American man stand. 236 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: I transitioned into writing a book. You know. I never 237 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: drank or smoke, and somebody said why not. I said, 238 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: I was just too cheap. I couldn't spend my money. 239 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 240 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 241 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: And then Ike and Tina Turner was such an unbelievable performers. 242 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: Certainly. 243 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: Did you get a sense though, of the complexity of 244 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: their relationship while you were out with them. 245 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. They lived in Baldwin Hills and my my apartment 246 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: was in bald When Hills, So I was really close 247 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: to like a lot, you know, and Tin and so 248 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: we rehearsed a lot and we did shows together. There 249 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: was a club, a big, big, the chain of clubs 250 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: called the Cinnamon Cinder Clubs which we all played. They 251 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: was sort of like the Whisky of Go Go, you know. 252 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: There were a bunch of whiskey goes across the country, 253 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: playboy clubs, and so that circle of that cycle we 254 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: all played either together or were criss crossing. But I 255 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Cantina Turner was really the complexity that he was really 256 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: strict on his musician. You think James Brown was strict, 257 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: I Turner was really strict. You know. He wouldn't find 258 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: you, you just get rid of you. And people say, well, 259 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he likes me, oh said Ike said, Oh, 260 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: he likes you, he just doesn't like you playing. 261 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable. 262 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: And did you have a sense of seeing Diana Ross 263 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: and the Supremes at that moment of how big an 264 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: act they would ultimately become. 265 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: Really knowing that because at the time they were the 266 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: and if you look at a poster, their name was 267 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: on the bottom. Thirty days later they were on the top. 268 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: That baby baby we used to sing on the bus, 269 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: no hits, no hits. When we go on to get 270 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: none and that became number one and we were eating froll, 271 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: you know. 272 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: Oh man. 273 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: But I stayed friends with Mary Wilson until she passed away. 274 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: You know, we talked once a week. My wife was 275 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: friends with her at HB and all of us, so 276 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: we talked until she passed away, you know. 277 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: But so, yeah, you got this this yearning. 278 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: You were very successful, but there was something that wasn't 279 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: just right in your life, which was that pivotal moment 280 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: that sort of led to your next chapter. Can you 281 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: can you talk about that move and the feelings behind 282 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: that move? 283 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I had to sound cliche, but you know, 284 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: I had a successful career and entertaining making money, but 285 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: something was missing. It just it just wasn't there. I 286 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: was working for money and I just at that particular time, 287 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: somebody said to me, either you work for money or 288 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: you make money work for you. And I had nothing 289 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: going other than just nothing, and I went to church. 290 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: You know, my family always went to church, but I 291 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: stopped and went to church one day and it's something said, 292 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: something is missing. And I started writing little things. But 293 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: basically that's what happened to me. Something was missing. You know, 294 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: you can have everything. It's like, you know, money can 295 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: buy you a house, but it can't buy your home. 296 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: You know it can buy you companion, but it can't 297 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: buy you love. These things like money came buy your love. 298 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: When I started to think that. My book that I wrote, 299 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: it's called a Believer's Perspective, and it's a different perspective, 300 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: but it's it's different now I look at things. But 301 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: it's how the spirit of my religious beliefs talked to me. 302 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: And he said, you know, you can't take any of 303 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: this with you, and I started to I went to 304 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Vegas one weekend and I went to church with laughing 305 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: and the Colin and Clara scholars to their church, and 306 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: I said they were at church. And then when I 307 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: saw hb. He was playing keyboards when he wasn't on 308 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: the road to wait for church, and I saw Brenda 309 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: Holloway and these people are always going to church and 310 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: they were happy, and I said, I want some of that. 311 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: You know. Little things like that slowly changed me. But 312 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: I never smoke a drink and I didn't go to clubs. 313 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: When I was not on the road, I was at home. 314 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: You know. 315 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: So you started writing down these these wonderful, simple, beautiful 316 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: revelations and observations, all based around your spirit and the 317 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 3: spirit of God. And ultimately I think you said, I 318 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: got to put this out to the world. 319 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: Some more can can read it. Is that right? Yeah? 320 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: I did. But I met a young a young man 321 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: that tests a young man because he's he's younger than me. 322 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: But Paul Lambert and Paul Lambert, I would we weekly 323 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: to have it like you have your talk. I have 324 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: a weekly uh blog that I write. And he said, man, 325 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: this is really fantastic. It's a different idea. For instance, 326 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: like I tell people your Christian character will always speak 327 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: loud in the words. You know. I just did little 328 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: things that I would say, you know, little things. As 329 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: a believer, we are called to walk, you know. You know, 330 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: like this, it's what you do, it's not what you say. 331 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: You have most people say, oh, I'm a Christian or 332 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: I believe in the Lord. Well, if you do those things, 333 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: you don't have to say. And I just wrote little things, 334 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: but Paul said, let's write this down, and we did, 335 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: and we put the book out that it's doing quite 336 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: well a believer's perspective. It's on Amazon dot Com or 337 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: even downloaded on Kindle books, but it's doing good. As 338 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, we're going to be doing the 339 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: second book next year. And it's an easy read. It's 340 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: not three hundred pages, it's not the Bible hords, different chapters. 341 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: It's an easy read. You can read it in a 342 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: couple of days. But what happens. And I have a 343 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: pastor Tyrone here in the Dallas area in Plano, Texas. 344 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: He bought twenty five books and they have what they 345 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: call a Christian Bingo night and they give out the books. 346 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: And I did a book signing and another pastor of 347 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: Mount Olive and they use different things that I say, 348 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: you know, they said this, like, for instance, I realized 349 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: that do you realize there's two days in a year 350 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 2: that you can never do anything about? You know what? 351 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: That is? No yesterday and tomorrow. You can only do 352 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 2: something about today. Little things, little things like that are 353 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: in there, you know, And it's just it doesn't beat 354 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: you down by saying thee thou one and what you do. 355 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 2: It's just it's just a little humorous things. 356 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 4: You know. 357 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: What role did this serious car accident that you had 358 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: put in put into this that that was a prospective builder, 359 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: wasn't it. 360 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: I had a. 361 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: Real bad accident and I was on my way to 362 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby to the racetrag and when I woke up, 363 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't talk. That was on life support. They gave 364 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: me twenty four hours, sort of like Jesus saying, hey Chunky, hey, 365 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: fat boy. Didn't hear me? 366 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: Now? 367 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: You know you're going too fast, you know. And as 368 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: I was there, just little things, I'd start to write 369 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: little notes of things which come to me, all kinds 370 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: of things. I wrote a thing called Welcome to Flight 371 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and it starts off, Welcome to a 372 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: flight twenty twenty four where your captain is the Great 373 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: I am, co pilot is Jesus, the flight crew is 374 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit, and you're be serving by the angels 375 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: of mercy. Please to make sure that your attitudes and 376 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: blessings are secured and locked, the weight in an upright position. 377 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: All self destructive and doubt devices should be turned off 378 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: and put away. There's no baggage on this plane. Should 379 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: you lose altitude under pressure, reach up and pull down 380 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: a prayer. You know, prayers will automatically be activated by faith. 381 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Once your faith is activated, you can help other passengers. 382 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: So if there will be no baggage allowed on this fight, 383 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: I got the captain's clearers for take off. Our destination 384 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: is greatness and beyond. Feel free to share this like 385 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, you know, do little things like that. 386 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: You know, Oh, that's wonderful. Wow. 387 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: So, as if your life was was not interesting enough 388 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: with the various parts of the journey the Dick Clark 389 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: Caravan of Stars, ultimately your move and your your writings, 390 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: there became this point in your life where you became 391 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: a builder. Yes, and and then there's another astounding part 392 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: of it I'll ask you about. But first of all, 393 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: talk about your move into being a builder. 394 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: Well, I want a company here in the Metroplexus called 395 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: k Rose CONSTRUCTIONIG, which is we do we develop and 396 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: build leuxtury your own customer homes and been doing that 397 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: for the last four forty plus years. I got into 398 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: business when I got married. I wanted to build a house, 399 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: and the guy that was building a home I asked 400 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: him and said, Sue, how do you do this? And 401 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: he said, well, you just hired this person and that person. 402 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 2: He says, can you put a jigsaw puscle together? I go, well, yeah, 403 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: he says, sort of like a puscle. A builder doesn't 404 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: use hammer nails. He just knows the people to call. 405 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: And I go, I can do that. And I built 406 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: my home and I realized that he had more time, 407 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: more time, more time, and I started the company and 408 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: it is still I was the first minority to be 409 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: on the cover of a Builder's architect magazine in nineteen 410 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: ninety five. They had been in existence for sixty three years, 411 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: and I've been on the cover three times in the 412 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: last forty years. But in the meantime, you know, I 413 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: went back to you know, there's the company run this one. 414 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to go back to music. But and then 415 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: when that wreck happened to me something to say, hey, 416 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: you've got to start living giving and you can't be here, 417 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: be there. You know, you weren't born with eight arms 418 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: just two legs. Since that accident, I've concentrated on writing 419 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: once a week in this book, which makes me happy. 420 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: So it's like somebody has a hobby. I got a 421 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: happy hobby. It's writing these Christian little antecedents, you know, 422 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: and then the company runs, you know, is working. But 423 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: that's that's basically what has happened to me with that 424 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: the home building business. 425 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: You know, it must have made you incredibly proud being 426 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: the first minority builder to be you know, featured on 427 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: the on the cover of Architecture magazine. 428 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: What what a what an amazing, amazing out come? 429 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: Well yeah, also, yeah, I tell you what. As I 430 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 2: was doing that, I have met people that tell people, 431 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: you know, I got this home that was built by 432 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: round Robin, you know, And I said, no, I want 433 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: you to buy a home because it's a good home, 434 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: not because it's you know, and it's amazing. But the 435 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: thing of being the first it was being recognized because 436 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: there was good a good builder. 437 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: You know. 438 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't look at it as like the first minority 439 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: even though people say that I wanted to be the 440 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: good builder. I was recognized as being good as I 441 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: was a good enter trainer as I was a good person, 442 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: and it says you're a good builder, you know. And 443 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: I build this home and my motto is I don't 444 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: build a house. I build a home is the I 445 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: was going to live in it. That's how I build it. 446 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: Amazing Well, Robin in closing, is there one lesson that 447 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: you could pass on that at eighty one years old 448 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 3: still keeps you passionate, happy, energized? 449 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 4: What's the key to that? 450 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: Here? Again, I found out that God has a purpose 451 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: and a passion and a plan for everybody. Sometimes we 452 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: are selective in listening and we have a me mentality. 453 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: Once you get rid of that me mentality and realize, 454 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: like you and I are talking, Yeah, you're not talking 455 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: to a minority. It were just two people talking and 456 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: we have we have something in common. And that is 457 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: the basic of being happy, is finding that common thread 458 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: that will sew you together. You know, I have my 459 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: book The Believer's Perspective. Meeting Paul and even talking to you, 460 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: you know, buzz I know that I'm going to see 461 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: you getting talk to you again, you know, with us 462 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: on this show or not, you know, But that's the 463 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: common thread of finding your purpose and your purpose is 464 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: not to go out and how much money you can 465 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: make and politics yourself sort of like I've never heard 466 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: so many people Democrats, Republicans, Da da da da. It's 467 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: how about just America? How about this is the president 468 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: of the United States? How about buzz and I have 469 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: two guys talking. 470 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. 471 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: Robin Lloyd, thank you for being on taking a walk, 472 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: for passing on your wisdom, sharing your story and continuing 473 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: to inspire us. 474 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: For what you do every day. 475 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: It's really amazing and I know we'll meet again. 476 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for just you say, come on and 477 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: take a walk with me. Because as I was talking 478 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: to you, a lot of these things I had forgotten. 479 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: You just pack them away and you just like you know, 480 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: you like an old trunk will close, you open up, 481 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: you go, oh, yeah, I remember when I wore that suit, 482 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: and talking to you is making me unpack some things 483 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: and said, yeah I remember that. 484 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the greatest compliment anyone could pay me. 485 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Robin. It's a joy. You're a treasure. 486 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: Tell us somebody to go out and get this book 487 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: A believer's perspective. I'm gonna hug thatll On Amazon dot com. 488 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: Go get it. A believer's perspective. Thank you, Robin, Thank you. 489 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 490 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 491 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 492 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 493 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts.