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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Aaron, go bra indeed, in fact, lose the Bri. Aaron.

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Speaker 1: It is Morning Combat, your award winning combat sports showcase.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, March seventeenth, twenty twenty three, and you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the co hostess with the most this. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: bring out the art brush every Friday. It's the beij guy,

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Speaker 1: the American Alpha, Brian Campbell. But you don't come here

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Speaker 1: for me, right, you know the arc You stay for

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Speaker 1: me and then you hate me. I mean it's inevitable, right,

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Speaker 1: You come here for the guy next to me, right Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC's finest, the best damn fight analyst who never quite

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Speaker 2: That's kind of a fair way to put it. I

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Speaker 2: suppose on some level, how are you? Maybe you're happy

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Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day?

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Speaker 1: Thank you as as somebody who is one ah irish

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Speaker 1: I do, Luke. You know my great grandmother was a Brady.

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Speaker 1: Never forget that, all right, never.

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Speaker 2: Are you get that? Are you wearing anything green besides

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Speaker 2: both of us having green toes and green teeth? Other

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Speaker 1: My liver is my my wife thought I jawned Ue

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Speaker 1: I mean? So yeah, great, there's probably some green benefits

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Speaker 1: from a from a failling liver, Luke, but outside of that,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Luke. I'm doing great on this Friday. UFC

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Speaker 1: two eighty six is tomorrow afternoon dinnertime ish on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast, and you know that's got me fired up.

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Speaker 1: And good lord, Luke, we are what eight days away

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Speaker 1: from David Benavitez Caleb Plant show time paper Hew.

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Speaker 2: So these, yeah, these.

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Speaker 1: Back to back weekends are pretty damn awesome in the

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Speaker 2: You know, this weekend is great UFC two eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you're gonna be doing the post fight show for

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Speaker 2: that reminder five pm start for the main car for

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Speaker 2: UFC two eighty six on Saturday, so I guess you'll

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Speaker 2: be on air roughly seven thirty eight pm. And then,

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Speaker 2: as you indicated, next week, we're gonna hit the bird

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Speaker 2: to go to Las Vegas. Gonna be great. Cannot wait.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I saw both guys in camp. Both

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Speaker 2: I saw an interview with Eddie Hern. He did want

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Speaker 2: Marcos Vegas BBC, and he was given this fight tons

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Speaker 2: It's a great fight.

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Speaker 1: He'd love to put Canelo against the winner, right you know?

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Speaker 1: Of course May six against John Ryder in Mexico and

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Speaker 1: to check out the all Excess episode setting up that fight.

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Speaker 1: And then Luke Thomas, myself and some very very big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that Luke moving up like two

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Speaker 2: Just absolutely high as fuck on ketamine, playing nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully, Luke hopefull Lee. All right, all the pre show

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Speaker 2: But in the end, Usman gets the nod and both

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Speaker 2: I think we ever expected to be, and I think

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I still feel like and look, it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's dude, it's really hard. It's really hard not to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand how he would be next for

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Speaker 2: So then it leaves Colby, and then it leaves Bull.

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Speaker 1: If Leon wins here, and you're now the UFC and

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Speaker 1: to believe to some degree, Luke, even if it's not

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Speaker 1: are standing right outside the door of the upper room.

430
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Speaker 1: In terms of his accomplishments, in terms of his hierarchy

431
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Speaker 1: as one of the greatest you know, reigning champions that

432
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Speaker 1: reached pound four pound number one status, It's not crazy

433
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Speaker 1: or impossible. One thing I didn't mention, just updating you

434
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Speaker 1: the odds for this main event from our friends at

435
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Speaker 1: Caesar's minus two forty ousman plus two hundred edwards, Luke,

436
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Speaker 1: let's transition to this cole main event and get a

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Speaker 1: quick peek at the stare down we saw after today's

438
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Speaker 1: press conference, justin Gaichee coming in as your underdog at

439
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Speaker 1: plus one ninety minus two thirty the red hot Raphael

440
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Speaker 1: Fhazive and a six fight win streak. It's been respectful

441
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Speaker 1: and cordial, but you could feel the intensity bruined between

442
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Speaker 1: them here lid boy.

443
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Speaker 2: If Eve looks like the world's toughest barista out of Aurora, Colorado,

444
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Speaker 2: I mean he'll he'll, he'll serve you a a frappucino

445
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Speaker 2: and then serve you you know, a fucking knuckle sandwich red.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and his supervisor, Pat Cummins will be there to

447
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Speaker 1: oversee it all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. After that, that's a good pull. That's a good pull.

449
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: I like that one. But yeah, everyone those two fights. Man,

450
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Speaker 2: we said it like the rest of the car. You know,

451
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Speaker 2: you know it's gonna you may like it, you may not.

452
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Speaker 2: It's not there's nothing necessarily that's special about these top

453
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Speaker 2: two fights. They're just it's just wag you beef. That's

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 1: Just Oh it is. It is our colleague in this

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Speaker 1: CBS sports fraternity here in MK abroad is a man

457
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Speaker 1: who's over that born in Canada and Vancouver, Shaquille Majori.

458
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Speaker 1: And look he caught up with the highlight this week.

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Speaker 1: And one of those key questions that you and I

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Speaker 1: had during Wednesday show when kind of trying to handicap

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Speaker 1: this matchup is is the wrestler that's still inside Justin

462
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Speaker 1: Geichie that never comes out for UFC fights. Is there

463
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Speaker 1: some potential you know, mid thirties reinvention here for him?

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Speaker 1: Shaq asked Justin Gaichie something similar to that. Let's get

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Speaker 1: his response about whether his wrestling will be a factor.

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Speaker 3: What are the chances on a scale of one to

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Speaker 3: ten that we're gonna see that first Justin Gaechee takedown

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Speaker 3: in the UFC on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say six.

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Speaker 3: Is that significantly higher than you would have said in

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Speaker 3: like past fights?

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Speaker 2: Probably? Probably?

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Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, I think it's always something that you

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Speaker 4: should make him think about, So I'll ponder that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think I know you've said in the

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Speaker 3: past that it's like it's almost like your mind or

477
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Speaker 3: your body won't let you come fight night. Is that

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Speaker 3: something that like you can sort of how do you

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Speaker 3: sort of combat that? How do you make yourself more

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Speaker 3: willing to do it on fight night?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's always a risk assessment, obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's never you know, up until I got t KO

484
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Speaker 4: by Eddie Alpheras and same with Fotier, you know, I

485
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Speaker 4: thought I was being more successful in that area, so

486
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Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily find it, you know, necessary to take

487
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Speaker 4: that take that shot. You know, against Habib and Olivera.

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't want to take it to the

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Speaker 4: ground because they've been doing jiu jitsu their whole life,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I'm a wrestler.

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Speaker 1: So Luke sixty percent chances it's wait. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Shak saying he's never attempted or never landed a takedown.

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Speaker 2: In the UFC. Sorry, I hear two of you. I'm

494
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Speaker 2: having trouble with it a little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hit the one in the middle area. All right,

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Speaker 1: go one more time, h is Shak saying first of

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Speaker 1: all that Gaetchee has never even attempted a takedown in

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Speaker 1: the UFC. Yet, as he's saying he's never landed one.

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Speaker 2: He I don't think he's even ever attempted one.

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Speaker 1: I could doubleheck, he's hearing his wrestling acumen. And I

501
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Speaker 1: know this has been a recurring theme that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: use his wrestling, but I didn't realize it was that extreme. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Do you get any feeling, Luke with the sixty percent

504
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Speaker 1: offering that he will.

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Speaker 2: No problem. Oh, he did attempt a takedown on Eddie Alvarez,

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Speaker 2: so he didn't get it, but he did attempt one

507
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Speaker 2: on Eddie Alvarez. He did not attempt on Poorty. I

508
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Speaker 2: go through the list here, but remember people say, well,

509
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Speaker 2: he doesn't act like a wrestler, Well, he doesn't act

510
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Speaker 2: like an offensive wrestler. He routinely acts like a defensive wrestler.

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Speaker 2: I do think that's worth pointing out, Like he doesn't

512
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Speaker 2: use his wrestling in an offensive way. I think you

513
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Speaker 2: might see it. I think you might see it. But like,

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Speaker 2: first of all, phazive has really good Like I said

515
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Speaker 2: this on Wednesday ABC, Phazivee has fucking great takedown defense,

516
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Speaker 2: like great takedown defense. So even if he was able

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Speaker 2: to get one, I don't believe he's gonna be able

518
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Speaker 2: to hold him down. I don't think he's going to

519
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Speaker 2: try to hold him down. And I definitely don't think

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Speaker 2: it's something he can just routinely go back to. So

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Speaker 2: to me, it's like of all the fights where you

522
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Speaker 2: were wondering will he use it? I don't think this

523
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Speaker 2: is a good opponent to even try that on. I

524
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Speaker 2: mean a little bit, maybe sure, mix it up, you know, fine,

525
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Speaker 2: but like as a okay, this is going to be

526
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Speaker 2: a wrestling based game plan against this dude, I don't

527
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Speaker 2: think that's all that smart.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hear you, and look, at the end

529
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Speaker 1: of the day, Luke, he turns into a violent superhero

530
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Speaker 1: and that's what he does. But if you have ever

531
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Speaker 1: wondered about the process to become that, We've got one

532
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Speaker 1: more clip from Shaq and one more plug to the

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Speaker 1: shack MMA YouTube channel for the full interviews Roman Dalize

534
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Speaker 1: among others. This week, here's Justin Gatchee on becoming the highlight.

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Speaker 3: Could you describe what that dark place is like? How

536
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Speaker 3: do you get out of that dark place post fight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, as each day comes, you know, you get

539
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Speaker 4: closer to the fight, go to a darker place. I

540
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Speaker 4: mean the chaos that we have to that will be,

541
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Speaker 4: that will be my life on Saturday night is the

542
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Speaker 4: most chaotic situation that you could probably put yourself into.

543
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Speaker 4: And in order to have confidence and survive in that situation,

544
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Speaker 4: you have to be content with the outcomes. The reason

545
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Speaker 4: we're all such big fans of this fight is because

546
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Speaker 4: anything can happen at any moment, and if you're not

547
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Speaker 4: content with that outcome, then you know, it's so scary. So,

548
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Speaker 4: you know, knowing that I have such a supportive and

549
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Speaker 4: loving family that I can always fall back on, no

550
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Speaker 4: matter if I win and lose one hundred times in

551
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Speaker 4: a row or one way or the other. That brings

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Speaker 4: me the confidence and allows me to go there because

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Speaker 4: you know, they know that I'm giving max effort and

554
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Speaker 4: that's that's all I can expect from myself.

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Speaker 1: Look, is there a good life lesson in there and

556
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Speaker 1: embracing what could go wrong and being okay with that potential?

557
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Speaker 2: I think you have to. I mean, all these fighters

558
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Speaker 2: are like, you know, think about this, and I only

559
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Speaker 2: focus on that. And it's like, listen, man, I'm not

560
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't need to be telling fighters what

561
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Speaker 2: mental state they have to get ready for, like like

562
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Speaker 2: that's their thing and I'm not in any position to

563
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Speaker 2: tell them otherwise. What I can say is just based

564
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Speaker 2: on my experience. The fighters who in a more veteran

565
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Speaker 2: senior role, who are more comfortable with themselves, They're comfortable

566
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Speaker 2: with difficulty. They may have had a loss or two

567
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Speaker 2: on their career, you know, still high level, but you know,

568
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Speaker 2: not a perfect record. Even John Jones is a perfect

569
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Speaker 2: record or something close to it, but you know, you

570
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Speaker 2: see him now, they embrace like all the things that

571
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Speaker 2: could go wrong, They embrace all the things that you

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Speaker 2: know that, all the scenarios you have to think about it,

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Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh, I train in bad spots. I

574
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Speaker 2: don't mean that. I mean like you'll see younger fighters

575
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Speaker 2: won't even entertain the idea. Like you ask them a question,

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Speaker 2: they'll be like, Hey, if you don't win this, what

577
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Speaker 2: might happen? They're like, I'm not even thinking about that.

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Speaker 2: And senior fighters certainly don't focus on it either, but

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Speaker 2: they let in what I'm gonna call a certain amount

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Speaker 2: of combat rationality. I have a little bit more combat

581
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Speaker 2: rationality about Listen, bad things do happen, you do get hurt,

582
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Speaker 2: you do get knocked down, you might get cut, whatever,

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Speaker 2: and they really begin to think about and process those things,

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Speaker 2: and they try to make more cool, even headed decisions

585
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Speaker 2: about what they have to do and what they're up against,

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Speaker 2: both before the fight and during. I think you're seeing

587
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Speaker 2: a little bit of that combat veteran rationality. Peek through

588
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Speaker 2: with a guy who I think rejected all of that

589
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Speaker 2: early in his career, he's made a little bit more

590
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Speaker 2: space for it. And you know, yes, it didn't go

591
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: well against Olavero Hebee, but in general, I think it's

592
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Speaker 2: improved his results by the way we see lastly, so

593
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Speaker 2: I went through the whole record in UFC. I don't

594
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Speaker 2: know about woll tairs of fighting or whatever, but in

595
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Speaker 2: UFC he's not attempted anyone takedown except in the Alvarez fight.

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Speaker 2: And I think even that one was like a half

597
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Speaker 2: hearted one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's wild, even with the reputation, that's wild

599
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Speaker 1: that it hasn't even been the threat of an attempted

600
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Speaker 1: one to plant that seed. Wow, there you go, all right, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Topic number two is America's favorite MMA boxing bare knuckle

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Speaker 1: Whatever you got bacha betting segment? Yeah all right, okay, yeah, okay,

603
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: bet you're ass all right, Yeah, let's run the graphic.

604
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, bet. Oh this is Luke where

605
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Speaker 1: we go head to head picking five each in the

606
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Speaker 1: five prepared categories. Uh, if there's any We try to

607
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Speaker 1: avoid any duplicate bets except for that big main event

608
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Speaker 1: of the weekend. Let's see what we got today. An

609
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: update on the standings. We talked about it on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Luke had the golden sombrero. He had the r Kelly special.

611
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Speaker 1: Oh and five last week on everyone, Wait has that happened?

612
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Speaker 1: Yet I'm trying to.

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Speaker 2: Remember I'm the first zero and five. I'm the first

614
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Speaker 2: one you had. I think one, one and four, but I.

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Speaker 1: Think at two one in four. I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: scraping the resident off the closet floor for a while

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Speaker 1: just to get by Luke. Last week though, I went

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Speaker 1: two and three, which was good enough to claw back

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Speaker 1: within five of Luke. Eighteen and sixteen overall for Luke,

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Speaker 1: which is you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't whiten your

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Speaker 1: teeth over that, Luke and make better.

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Speaker 2: You know who I am. I'm like, I'm like the

623
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Speaker 2: Washington Wizards on a hot streak. It's fine, but it

624
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: ain't gonna go anywhere, you know what I mean?

625
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Speaker 1: And your boy BC thirteen and twenty one. But you know,

626
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot like the history of my career in life.

627
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Speaker 1: You know, I've got to I've got to kind of

628
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Speaker 1: scrape that bottom first, Luke. But that come up right?

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Speaker 1: That come back? Oh man, I mean by the end

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Speaker 1: of it, Luke, I won't want to come back down

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Speaker 1: from this cloud. You know what I'm saying, Luke? This cloud?

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Speaker 2: Then what song is that? Is that glycering? No, it's

633
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Speaker 2: not glitcering.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's a come down by Bush. It changed.

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Speaker 2: That is that from the first albums that what is

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Speaker 2: that sixteen Stone?

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Speaker 1: That's a sixteen Stone creation. But I could get dead

638
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Speaker 1: wrong for that. It's one of the you know, the

639
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: first two albums were the ones, like those were the

640
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Speaker 1: out I mean they were good, they were really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, create not creed fuck creed. Uh. Bush

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Speaker 1: to me not an elite band, but produced upwards of

643
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: four like legit elite radio hits. Luke that that you know,

644
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: kept some level of badass room. Remember they did that conference,

645
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: that that concert Shirtless in the rain that time a

646
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: MTV and he could have got electrocuted and it was

647
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: kind of badass, you know.

648
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: No, all right, By the way, I see, I don't

649
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: know if you saw Rolling Stone put out the list

650
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: of the top one hundred metal songs of all time?

651
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how many cannibal corps in there?

652
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: Coming in at ninety three Cannibal corpse hammer smashed face.

653
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, why wouldn't you why? Why why would you?

654
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: Uh that I'd have to check that out. That's a

655
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: great countdown. I like that, like probably a lot of

656
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Ossie in there, right, I mean this can.

657
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: Yep, there's there's a fair amount of Sabbath and Ozzie

658
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: in there.

659
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: You yeah, all right, Luke, Okay, bet this week you

660
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: have champions advantage? Are you going first or second?

661
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: I will go first. I will go first today. All right?

662
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: Main event? You f C two eighty six take it over?

663
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: All right? Main event? So this one like last week,

664
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: Now both of us were wrong last week. We've been

665
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: right before when we both had the same idea. So

666
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: obviously we're gonna go just two eighty six. We're not

667
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: gonna look at any of the boxing cards we see.

668
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get right to it. I really I did

669
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: struggle with this one in the end, and I do

670
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: have questions about who I picked, But I feel fairly

671
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: confident in saying I think Kamara Usbin's gonna regain his

672
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: title tomorrow. We'll give me pause. Are the things that

673
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: give everyone pause the condition relative about uh Our, I

674
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: should say Kamara's knees and more generally, his age. How

675
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: is he going to react to losing via head kick?

676
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: You know what changes can he make? But the thing

677
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: for me is, we see winning those three middle rounds

678
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: clearly having an impression of what you have to do

679
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: to win those ones, getting him backed up against the

680
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: fence line, putting pressure on him. I don't know if

681
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be a great fight, BC. It might

682
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: be kind of a boring, slash ugly fight. We'll have

683
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: to see. I don't know. I don't have a great

684
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: feeling about that one way or the other. But I

685
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: just feel like I've said it every time we do

686
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: these pics. I say the same thing because it really matters.

687
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: Skills win fights, and Leon is highly skilled. But in

688
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the areas where this fight is likely

689
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: to be contested, I think Uspin's just a little bit ahead.

690
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: We shall see, but I like Kamar Usman to win.

691
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: On Saturday, Luke, remember that quote from Apollo Creed at

692
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: the end of Rocky three. By the way, watching Creed

693
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: two tonight with the kids hitting the Imax theater tomorrow, Luke. Okay,

694
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: so we're going to bring this thing home here. But

695
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: you remember before that sparring that that third fight, the

696
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: artificial fight in the sparring ring with Rocky, you know,

697
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: the ding ding. Apollo took his mouthpiece out and said,

698
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: hold up, you fight great, but I'm a great fighter,

699
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: and Luke, I kind of feel like that if you

700
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: understand what that means in this fight, It's like, what

701
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: are the sound we played on Wednesday from my interview

702
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: with Tomorrow, where he said, I understand the concern of

703
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: all these people of will I bounce back, the age,

704
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: the knockout, the all that stuff, But he goes those

705
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: are fears for ordinary people. I'm extraordinary, And look, I

706
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: understand Tomorrow can be very cheesy and some people think

707
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: he's always kind of acting fake, and to them, that's

708
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: like cringey. It's always borderline with Tomorrow. But I think

709
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: it's right though this time, like I've underestimated Leon too much,

710
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: and I admit that right as I continue to turn

711
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: all the names against both of us. But here's the deal.

712
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: If I get the best of Leon Edwards on Saturday,

713
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: and I get a focused, hungry, still got it with

714
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: purpose Kamorrow usman, he's the better fighter. He has more

715
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: ways to win. Yes, a wild kick could happen at

716
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: any time, and that wasn't necessarily wild, it was calculated.

717
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying there, I expect Edwards

718
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: to compete. I expect him to be in positions to

719
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: have a shot at winning a decision here, but the

720
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: ability to bring the fight to the ground. And I

721
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: think you're going to see the most possibly motivated tomorrow

722
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: you could ever have. I mean to hear him talk

723
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: about for the first time enjoying the sport again. I think, Luke,

724
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: we do sometimes underestimate when somebody's at that level, carrying

725
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: the stardom on your shoulders and you know, the interviews

726
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: and when you get the movie opportunities and all that stuff.

727
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, for some like Econ McGregor, that's that's all

728
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: they ever want to know. Normal people, Luke can't, can't

729
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: or shouldn't want that all the time. And I think

730
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: that that can distract you. So is tomorrow usman normal

731
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: or is the extraordinary? I think as a person he's normal.

732
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: I think as a fighter he's extraordinary. He's going to

733
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: win this. We make the same bet. It's why he's

734
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: the betting favorite. Okay, No one's trying to crush Rocky's dreams. Look,

735
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: I come through this experience loving me some Leon Edwards.

736
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: But is it more likely in history that he's Matt

737
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: Sarah or more likely that he's like, you know, Frankie

738
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: Edgar taking the title from BJ and just going right.

739
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's it's you know where it's more

740
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: likely right now. Okay, And.

741
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: First, the first Penn and Edgar fight was highly disputed. Yes,

742
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: in fact, I did think Penn won that one actually,

743
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: and then you didn't realize in time was that one

744
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: guy was kind of here and then Edgar was surging

745
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: and there was this really close performance. But the reality

746
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: was one guy was just moving in this direction. So

747
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: when they met later, he was clearly superior. That just

748
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: didn't happen in this fight, truly, I say it again,

749
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: nothing accidental about that Leon Edwards ko he timed it,

750
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: he set it up, he read it fucking great. But

751
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Kamaru dominating the middle portion of that fight in the

752
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: way that he did, it's just hard to look past that.

753
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: It is it is, and I get the elevation change

754
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: this time. I get the boy and see Luke as

755
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: we continue to Man, I'm all over that word right now,

756
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the boy and sea of fighting in front of your

757
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: home country. Yeah, dude, there's gonna be a very good

758
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: lee on Edwards in front of you. The only way

759
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: to once again beat him and do it in the

760
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: somewhat one side of fashion is to be this great.

761
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: I think tomorrow's still got it. Luke, give me a

762
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: favorite for the weekend, either UFC two eighty six or

763
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: I guess you could have picked off the menu. Luke,

764
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: I picked one boxing match.

765
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, you did pick one boxing match. I did not.

766
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm actually not gonna give away your pick because that

767
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: would be wrong, but I'll just say you took my

768
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: pick for this one, so I actually like your pick

769
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: on this one much better than mine. I had to

770
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: struggle to find one, and it's not like this was

771
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: my number one choice even after picking or not not

772
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: being able to pick the one you did because I

773
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: wanted to fit some of the other fights in other positions.

774
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: So I'm a little nervous about this one, but I'm

775
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: gonna go Marvin Vattori over Roman Dalidze. Now, obviously we

776
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: know the story. Dalidz is as hot as he's ever been,

777
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: just running over Jack Hermanson, and no doubt about it,

778
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: Marvin Vattori has had his struggles, but the fact that

779
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: basically not counting the shoe face fight, which I would

780
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: pick victory to win that one ten times out of ten.

781
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: At this point, his only other losses have come to

782
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: the champions. I just don't know if the LEDs is

783
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: that guy. Now, of course he could be. That's why

784
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm nervous about this one. I take all the issues

785
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: about Marvin Vattori seriously. I do think he needs to

786
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: work on his development. He needs to get some skills

787
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 2: that he can really lord over the division. But even

788
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: with what he's got, I think he's too sturdy, too

789
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: defensively sound, too big for Roman Dealedze over the course

790
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: of three rounds. I think Deledsi is gonna make some mistakes,

791
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: whereas I think Marvin's a little bit more meat and potatoes,

792
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: but on a good in a good way in this

793
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: particular context. Give me Marvin Vatori at minus two idio

794
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: or Roman Deliedze. That's it that I know because I

795
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: almost hear the thing. I almost picked the leeds as

796
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: my upset.

797
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: So did I, Dude. I had in like a bunch

798
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: of different categories on this okay bet strip, and then

799
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I end up leaving him off because yes, he has

800
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: to make a big leap here against the Vittori, who

801
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: only looks compromised against the super elite. But man ah,

802
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: so yes, so physive. My so phazive at this point,

803
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry not phizzive. Let me go back this

804
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: Roman Delize is plus two thirty opposite the minus two

805
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: to eighty. I ultimately, look, that is the safer pick

806
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: that victory can grind this out, can do him a

807
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: little bit of wrestling, a little bit of strike in

808
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: right and just and just not be dominated in the

809
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: way that guys right below that level were when Delise

810
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: lands that big shot.

811
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: And remember they've trained together, so there's some familiarity with

812
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: their game. You know who's fought better guys, dude, Vittori

813
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: has fought much better guys, and they had the same competition.

814
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: They both fought jack Er Manson and Vittori's was not

815
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: a great fight, whereas Delise ran through him. Still, you know,

816
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: it's just hard for me to completely discount Larva Victoria.

817
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: I'll say this, if Delise wins this one, shit, dude,

818
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: give that guy a title shot because he is ready

819
00:37:59,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: to go.

820
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's he's rip roaring and ready to go.

821
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: That Caucasian Luke. Let's go to my pick of a favorite.

822
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: I struggled on this. When I struggled a lot, I

823
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: thought we we were counting out Justin Gaigee, and then

824
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: I was talking myself back into it, and then I

825
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: didn't know where to go because this fight to be

826
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: fair and the lightweight division is such a good one.

827
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: But Luke minus two thirty, your favorite is Rafael Fazeve

828
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take him to beat the plus one

829
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: ninety Justin Geichie. I'm gonna stick with my guttist instincts here.

830
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Geechee is washed and is gonna fall apart.

831
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm betting on ultimately the skill and poise

832
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: of Rafael Fazive, who is going to have to keep

833
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: that distance as we mentioned. But I think gee Chie,

834
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Goetchie's always hit a bile even when he's

835
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: getting as you said on Wednesday, even when he's landing

836
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: and setting up perfectly these devastrating combinations. And you know

837
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: he does have wrinkle to his game when he wants

838
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: to offensively, there is his defense is his offensive pressure.

839
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: So you can hit him Befa Ziv's gonna have a

840
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: chance to cut him, have a chance to hurt him.

841
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: And you know, guy, I heard Gaatechee talking about the

842
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera fight. I'm not saying, you know, Phaziv is

843
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera. But you know, Gechie got hurt right away

844
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: in that one, like ten seconds in pretty badly, you know,

845
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: right to the nose across the face, and he really

846
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: never recovered, you know, in terms of getting that center

847
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: balance again. And you know it's not maybe not surprising

848
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: or a big deal because this guy lives in that chaos.

849
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: But don't underestimate gai Chie also loves to be in

850
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: that chaos but be getting the better of you, you know,

851
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: and and he he operates well within that. There are

852
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: potentials here for for Phyziv to hurt, to really hurt

853
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: him and get him off of his game. And I

854
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: think that's gonna make it potentially just a little bit

855
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: easier for him to keep that distance outstrike, show us

856
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: the slickness, but always be a knockout threat. But Luke,

857
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a decision here. It's not part

858
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: of the bet, but I'm gonna take Phyziv here by decision.

859
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: I like the Physiv bet. I like it. I think

860
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: it's a strong one. I think it's good.

861
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: All right.

862
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: Next, right, So underdogs, this was hard because of some

863
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: other fights that I had to kind of fit into

864
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: different places. Again, not so convinced by this because his

865
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: opponent is physical and can do a lot. I'm gonna

866
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 2: give a slight nod from an underdog pick to Ji Herbert.

867
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: J Herbert has been up and down in the UFC,

868
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: to be clear, and you know at times when he's

869
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: been down, he's been really down. But I've seen moments

870
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: of inspiration from him. I've seen some great striking from him.

871
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: I've seen quickness, you know, hometown guy here. He's only

872
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: a plus one fifty. He's not a substantial underdog. So

873
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, if he loses, I'd be like, right.

874
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you know we've seen that movie before. But

875
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, if we're if the task is pick an

876
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: underdog who you really think can get it done here,

877
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: I think Joe Herbert is well suited to get the

878
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: upset on Saturday. I'm gonna roll with him.

879
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's plus one sixty by Caesar's minus one ninety

880
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: is Klein and Luke. We gotta be honest here. Like

881
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: the meatball Molly recent explosion right that led to her

882
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: getting the Bars dual deal and making all this you

883
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: know fanfare with Patty it hit perfectly in some ways, Luke,

884
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: because of the with that big you know, the back

885
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: to back wins with that big one in England. That

886
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: crowd matters. There's always when they go somewhere for and

887
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: like this that has incredible fans, there's always going to

888
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: be a two to three you know, hometown people on

889
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: that undercard who are going to overachieve and kick your

890
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: screening by really benefiting. That's why I think that meet

891
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Pall Molly moment for her, and you know, the London

892
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: crowd was that perfect sort of gateway drug to make

893
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: that happen. It could be Herbert here, it could be

894
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: anybody who's going to benefit from that because you know

895
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: the same thing from beltoor goes to Dublin Man. Sometimes

896
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: magic happens because of that. Dude. Look, the crowd can

897
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: matter at the right moment, There's no question about it.

898
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: So this whole era of first pandemic and then this

899
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: elongated stay at the Apex for the UFC and PFL

900
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: kind of playing that small arena without a ton of fans,

901
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm done with those days, right, tell Fauci, I'm done

902
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: with that shit.

903
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: Luke, I don't think you can stop it anymore. But yeah, dude,

904
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: I think John Herbert is real good. And you know,

905
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: is he the best fighter in the world. No, but

906
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: he's talented. I'd like to give him a shot.

907
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, Luke, my underdog pick. Look, you

908
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: can question my motives or my credibility here, Luke when

909
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: it comes to the women's fight game or this one

910
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five pound division, But Luke, I follow

911
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: this division closely, and that's the truth. And I'm gonna

912
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: tell you right here. Jennifer Mayah at plus one point

913
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: fifty is the potential, the potential of some very easy

914
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: money against a fighter I like a lot and King

915
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Casey O'Neill, who's unbeaten, who's got some hype and momentum

916
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: behind her, fights very aggressively, but she is coming off

917
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: a very legitimate leg injury. And as much as I've

918
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: loved the fighting spirit of here of Casey O'Neill, and

919
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: you mix that with the idea of her potential, she's

920
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: not fully completely a well rounded fighter at this level,

921
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: and there's still some elements of learning on a job,

922
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: and she's had some close fights and it feels like

923
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: a leveling out loss is in her in her future

924
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: and she can dive, you know, benefit from it. Maya

925
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: kinda is that perfect opponent from a stubborn standpoint the

926
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: wrestling game. She does land big shots from the outside.

927
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: She can get she can get her offense off enough.

928
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: This is a tough fight for O'Neil. Luke, I think

929
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: Jennifer Mayah, who's had two, two, i think even three

930
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: recent losses at the very high level the Ukajian's you

931
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: know that the chef Chenko is that level. She can

932
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: win this fight, and I think the odds are off. Luke,

933
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm going Jennifer Mayah here, all.

934
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: Right, fair enough for my over underclaim BC, I'm gonna

935
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 2: go with I'm gonna take the under on Muhammed Makaya

936
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: have taken on Jeffell Felio, Jeffell Phelio coming off of

937
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: the Contender series very dominant. So yeah, contended series, very dominant.

938
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: I think first round striking finish that he got. Makaiah

939
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: has had a couple of problems with ground and pound,

940
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: but he has very good control and obviously he rebounded

941
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: with a finish in his last contest the one before

942
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: that in London, not his I mean he won, but

943
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: it wasn't his best performance. Still, he is getting better.

944
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: He is he is I think putting things together. He

945
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: is obviously heavily favored to win this one. I think

946
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: he will get it done inside the distance. So I

947
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: take Mocaia and Philio to take to go the under.

948
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: Okay, my over under. Luke will go to that des

949
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: Own Boxing main event there as Gilbert Gilberto Zero Ramerez

950
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: fresh off the very humbling loss, one sided loss, to

951
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: meet Dimitri Bevall, first loss of his career in that

952
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: light heavyweight title fight. If we can switch the camera

953
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 1: back on this guy right here, this guy, yeah great,

954
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: think I'd like to tell you that he's fighting Gay Brizato,

955
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: like we mentioned, and you know he's moving way up

956
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: and way. It's way past it. Luke cay Risotto cuts

957
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: eat every fight. You know, he gets cut. So it's

958
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: either gonna be a cut or it'll be some form

959
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: of a stoppage here, maybe a mercy stoppage to some level.

960
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna take the under. I think this is easy money,

961
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: but I need it. I'm down by five points against you,

962
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: so go to the next one, Luke, KEO or sub.

963
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: What do you got, all right? Ko or sub? I

964
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: am gonna go with sub and I'm gonna go with

965
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: Juliana Miller. Ticket on Veronica Hardy formerly Veronica Mercedo. I

966
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: think she did change it. Fully, I don't think it's

967
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: Veronica Mercedo hard I think it's just Hardy. But either way,

968
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, Veronica Hardy has it competed in a while.

969
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: She's six and four. We met her backstage. She seems

970
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 2: quite lovely, quite nice. And Juliana Miller, you know, doesn't

971
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: have a ton of experience coming off The Ultimate Fighter.

972
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: You know, you can pick a lot in her game

973
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: that is in need of development. I don't know that

974
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: it was wise to come to the UFC this quickly,

975
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: but in terms of her submission grappling, it's excellent. She

976
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: actually has a win in EBI via overtime rules over

977
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: Via Mesquita, which is like a huge win. That's a

978
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's a dominant world level champion actually in

979
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: the black belt division. And Miller actually beat her in

980
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: EBI rules, So take that for what it's worth. Like

981
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: that is a she can if she gets her hands

982
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: on you, she gets the takedown, she is probably vastly

983
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: superior to Hardy on the ground, So I think that

984
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: one's gonna end in SUBBC.

985
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting pick. I think this fight definitely

986
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: does not go the distance. I almost picked.

987
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't hear BC. I don't know if that is

988
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: just me or what? What's going on here?

989
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm still here? All right? There we go?

990
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: Should I take it away? Folks? What's happening here?

991
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Luke? Can you hear me now? I mean, what are

992
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: we doing here? Can you hear me now? Luke? No,

993
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: bueler fry.

994
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: There we go? Oh now, I hear you all right

995
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: my headphones? I think see yeah, for just a second place.

996
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: I think Miller is going to win that fight by stoppage.

997
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's going to be sub or KO,

998
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: So that'll be interesting in this Okay, bet platform, you

999
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: could you inadvertently fed me with the Makaya picked Luke

1000
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: because my KO or sub is going to go submission.

1001
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Either one could do it here and I could win this.

1002
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: But you know, Makaia have the big favorite, has a

1003
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: ton of subs under his belt already could really be

1004
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: a long term player in this division. He's going to

1005
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: pass this test, and it'll probably end up being a

1006
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: push then since you've picked the under. But I'm not

1007
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: worried about it. I'm not worried about it, all right.

1008
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: I got audio issues here, handler back, Luke Thomas. Wow,

1009
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: we did it, Luke. It was a technical issue, but

1010
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: it might have even been my fault. But you know

1011
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: that's the breaks at this level. People come to expect

1012
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: us to be human, Luke. I picked Molkaiev fight to

1013
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: end via submission, So that's gonna end up being a

1014
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: push if it does. Because you took the under. We

1015
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: already pushed in the Usman main events, so I can

1016
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: make I could force a tie here if I sweep

1017
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: my picks and you take the you take the bagel

1018
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: on the other one. So we'll see what happens here.

1019
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: It is possible.

1020
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: It is possible, So all right, let's keep the show

1021
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: rolling here. Topic number three, Hey, random interview. Conor McGregor

1022
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: came up for air. We know he flew to New York.

1023
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: He had he was on Fox News, wasn't he on Hannity, Luke?

1024
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: And he did some business stops. He also showed up

1025
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: on the MMA Hour set with Ariel Helwanie and it was.

1026
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: It was nice to see an extended I know McGregor's

1027
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: also been chatting to some of his uh you know,

1028
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: MacLife cohorts, and I saw the mom's basement thing, Luke,

1029
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: but this is na McGregor back, and he's talking big

1030
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: ticket items here with Ariel. Maybe the biggest one, maybe not,

1031
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: is he believes he's going to get a welterweight title

1032
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: shot if he defeats Michael Chandler later this year. Luke Thomas,

1033
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: both champs Thursday's press conference were actually asked about that

1034
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: exact quote. Leon said, as the king, I welcome all challengers,

1035
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: so whoever is next can get it. Kamaru answered, like

1036
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: I've always said, I welcome it, meaning Connor. So if

1037
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: it happens, it happens, it could probably happen very easily.

1038
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, it probably could. It will depend on how

1039
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: things go with Chandler. Obviously that's not a gimme fight,

1040
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: but we shall see. We know that Chandler, you know,

1041
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: either wins explosively or loses that way, so it'll be

1042
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: interesting contest. But you know, why would McGregor want it.

1043
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 2: Obviously he'd become the first guy to have three weight

1044
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: class titles in UFC history. That's sort of what he's

1045
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: chasing here, I think, and he's certainly bulked up for it.

1046
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know that it's the likeliest scenario, but yeah,

1047
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: damn sure, can't dismiss it.

1048
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: Well, Luke Connor told Dariel he has two fights left

1049
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: on his deal, but he'll be with the UFC forever.

1050
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to go anywhere else. The real question then,

1051
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: is when is this Michael Chandler fight going to happen.

1052
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: He did seem to confirm the rumors that there was

1053
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: some incident on set with him and Chandler, but nothing

1054
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: too serious. He actually respects Chandler a lot here, Luke,

1055
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: But the question is when do we make this fight? McGregor.

1056
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: On you, Sada, he says, I'm not rushing nothing, these

1057
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: hurdles and whatnot, but we're in constant communication and there's

1058
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: an interview scheduled and a meeting happens, and then it

1059
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: will be official. But the six months thing, what they

1060
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: had said was two clean tests and off I go.

1061
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: So I assume it won't be long. Well you, Sada

1062
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: had a quick response to that quote, amazing, let's show

1063
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: that please here we go and Luke, you saw that

1064
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: this is Aaron Bronstonder tweeting. How ultimately said, while we

1065
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: meet with all athletes who enter or re enter the pool,

1066
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: we do not currently have a meeting set with Connor

1067
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: as of today, we have not received notice of his

1068
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: coming out of retirement. And they went on to defend

1069
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: their stance Luke about the UFC rules, which is six

1070
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: months in active testing. Luke, this escalated quickly overnight. Can

1071
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: you tell us what Connor tweeted and then deleted?

1072
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, we got to back up a step.

1073
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the whole entire statement, but

1074
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: leave the statement on the screen if you can, because

1075
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 2: I do want to read one more time. Sorry about

1076
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: that guy, I did.

1077
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: I read the first paragraph and then I summed up

1078
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: the second. What are you pointing to exactly know?

1079
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: But it's one more thing and than the second one.

1080
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: I want to do it. So when they say this

1081
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: is a fair way to ensure an athlete does not

1082
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: use the retirement status to gain an unfair advantage by

1083
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: using prohibited substances during the retirement period. So the reason

1084
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: why I just wanted to highlight what they wrote there

1085
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: is it is highly unusual for you, SATA, to put

1086
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: out a statement basically in response to an interview off

1087
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: of one fighter. I mean, they do sometimes issue clarifications.

1088
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: But basically what Connor did subsequent to this was he

1089
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: went on a tweeting tirade. Now he sends deleted them.

1090
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: One of them was SATA, you're going into the bin, right,

1091
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: the trash. That's one he had. But he had a

1092
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: couple other ones too, right, And I got them. I

1093
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: saved them. I sent them out yesterday and I took

1094
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: screenshots of them. Here was a couple of the ones

1095
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: that he had we see on which I thought were

1096
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 2: really really interesting. Here's the first one that I thought

1097
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: was of note quote over seventy clean tests never violated once.

1098
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: I will not be scapegoaded by this garbage organization. You

1099
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: are not the be all end all in this equation.

1100
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: You saw. And then someone said something to him about

1101
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: what he was doing, whether he was lying, and he

1102
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: was like, this is the thing that's bothering me. They're

1103
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: putting out these statements in a way that says that

1104
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: in McGregor's view, that makes it seem like McGregor is lying. Now,

1105
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't know who McGregor has talked to I don't know.

1106
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: It seems like there is a degree of miscommunication or

1107
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: a lack of communication here between the parties. But look here,

1108
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: let's just be really honest about what is happening here.

1109
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: McGregor did what he did for what seems like what

1110
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: he has said was medical purposes because the injury was

1111
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: so severe, he had to go outside of what you

1112
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: would have typically allowed to get the kind of treatment

1113
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: that he wanted. And now he has to get back

1114
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: in he is using the two testing rule, and then

1115
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: he is assuming, I think rightly, that the UFC is

1116
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: going to waive the six month testing period like they

1117
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: did for Black Lesser, because folks, in the end, here

1118
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: is just the reality. USADA works for the UFC. They

1119
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: don't control the UFC. They don't they don't dictate to

1120
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: the UFC. They are paid by the UFC to perform

1121
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: a service, but to the extent that the UFC decides

1122
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: that service impacts their business, they are allowed to go

1123
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: around it. And it looks to me like what's going

1124
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: to happen here is Connor McGregor is just going to

1125
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: bulldoze all the protocol because he's Connor McGregor. I will

1126
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: tell you, as someone who's like obviously expressed a number

1127
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: of views on anti doping, it's funny to watch this candidly.

1128
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting a great deal of enjoyment from it. But

1129
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: at the same time, this is not the way it's

1130
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: supposed to go either, right like the way you would

1131
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: an ideal scenario would be the fighters working with you,

1132
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: Sada to craft a policy that someone couldn't do this in.

1133
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't think this is good for the market necessarily either,

1134
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: But Mike makes right in this business, which we always know,

1135
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: and Connor's gonna get his way here. Anyone who thinks

1136
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: you Sawa is gonna stop Connor boy, I would take

1137
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: the fucking under on that one.

1138
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: Well, this this is gonna be a big moment. Now,

1139
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: the moment's not too big because people already have pretty

1140
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: strong opinions about you, Sada, and what role they actually

1141
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: play and whether this is just UFC, you know, dotting

1142
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: their eyes and teas and having an insurance safety net.

1143
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: But you know in the past when they bent to

1144
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: brock in the UFC the way that happened, and then

1145
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: when he looked, I mean, he didn't like barely fail attest.

1146
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: This wasn't picograms like Brock failed the shit out of that.

1147
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: That was like Brock was using like a motherfucker.

1148
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: That was like Chail's son and level or Stephan Bonner

1149
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: and the Anderson Silva fight level of like yeah, guys,

1150
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: like you're damn right, I'm using let's do it, you

1151
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like that's what I was

1152
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: wondering about jail. Like Chaill knew he was gonna get

1153
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: caught under that old system, right Luke, but he's still

1154
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: like it, you know, Yeah, I.

1155
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Like it's just work in his mind. I think it

1156
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: was just worth the risk or whatever.

1157
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: Right, because even if he wins it and then gets stripped,

1158
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: he'll always do the bit that he won it and

1159
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: that he's the real champion. So for someone like him

1160
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: in that spot, he was able to take that ridiculousness

1161
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: and just ride with it. But if this is allowed,

1162
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: especially like dude, I know, it's just tweets, but you know,

1163
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: when you have that many followers and you're at this level,

1164
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: like those are some pretty damning tweets, just straight up

1165
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: like unless the UFC, which you know they're not gonna do.

1166
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Unless the UFC comes out and is like, Connor, we're

1167
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: fining you for those you know, incorrect comments about Yousada,

1168
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: And then they put out a release that says, Connor

1169
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: McGregor will adhere to our own rules. Blah blah blah.

1170
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: That's the only way I would believe that you Ysada

1171
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: actually is what it's supposed to be, Luke, and not

1172
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a dog a pony show in a

1173
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: lot of ways.

1174
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: From here, he's gonna run them over. He's gonna run

1175
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: them over, but.

1176
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: They're not gonna do it. Look, there's no chance that

1177
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: actually happens. There's no chance UFC actually steps in here

1178
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: and tries to like fix it and be like, no, no, no,

1179
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: he's wrong, guys, we actually have it. They they don't care.

1180
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: They don't even care, Luke, they don't even care.

1181
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: And also do the advertisers care nope? Do the fans care? Nope?

1182
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: Some of the other fighters might care, but even then,

1183
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: given the severity of his injury, I don't think the

1184
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: other fighters really care. Does Michael Chandler seem to care? Nope. Like,

1185
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering who cares here besides the people who

1186
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: are zealous about this issue. But b see there's one

1187
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: more aspect to the story that I think is getting

1188
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: lost a little bit, and then it is worth reminding people.

1189
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: I often ask people to read some of the scholarship

1190
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: on anti doping, which I realize is a fool's errand

1191
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: because it's dry literature and really no one wants to

1192
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: go through it, but it is highly informative when you do.

1193
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: One of the long standing, well documented long prior to

1194
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 2: UFC and you saw to ever getting into business criticisms

1195
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: of anti doping is that when you institute it, it

1196
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: actually has a bit of an inverse effect. Namely, we

1197
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: have seen this across numerous sports. What ends up happening

1198
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: is the athletes or the teams or whatever that are

1199
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: very rich and well positioned to have either lawyers to

1200
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: fight in court, or hire their own chemists to get

1201
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: a proprietary blend or whatever. Guys who are in control

1202
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: of the power structure, they're able to get past and

1203
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: invert all the rules. Meanwhile, all the people at the

1204
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: lower end of this sporting economic spectrum get run over.

1205
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: Guys like Tom Lawler bad science. He doesn't have a

1206
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: lot of time and lawyers to fight anything, and they

1207
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: ruined his fucking MMA career. They ruined it. One of

1208
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: the perverse effects of heavy anti doping is that it

1209
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: actually enables the rich while it penalizes the poor inside

1210
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: that sporting economic spectrum. Because that's all it really ever

1211
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: can do. It actually can't do much more than that.

1212
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: You are seeing that play out here yet again, yet again,

1213
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: more evidence from what we already know well documented anti

1214
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: doping and ends up actually being totally ineffective against the

1215
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: rich while being overly punitive against the poor. This was

1216
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: said long before UFC ever signed with you, Sada. It

1217
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: was a criticism I brought up when they made this deal.

1218
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: Everyone looked past it, and look at it now, live

1219
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: in your face. It is happening in real time. It

1220
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: wasn't made up before, It's not made up now. It

1221
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: is time to look at this and say, does this

1222
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: really benefit the sport? Does it really benefit the athletes?

1223
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: If the rich can just do whatever they want and

1224
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: the poor are fucked for years at a time, I

1225
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: ask people to really consider what I've been asking to

1226
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: consider all this time, which is the evidence, the not

1227
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: the talking points that all these entities put out. The evidence.

1228
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: The evidence is fucking clear. It's shitty for people at

1229
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: the bottom. It's great for people at the top.

1230
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Damn right, Luke. I think that was a speech on

1231
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, life in general and the structures of business

1232
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: and government. I'm outshaken to my core, but I think

1233
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: you nailed it though just the same. I mean, seriously,

1234
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's either weird perfect depending on your angle.

1235
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Because if this was any other sport or league like

1236
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: the NFL, and you know, somebody prominent came out in

1237
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: such an and you know, direct way against one of

1238
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: the the inherent structures, like when someone comes out and

1239
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: criticizes officials, and then you know you typically have a

1240
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: fine around that or some level of you know, you

1241
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: don't want that message. You don't want the message out

1242
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: there that some of these things could be true, Luke.

1243
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: In general, across the board, the UFC is like, not

1244
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: only we don't care at all, We're not even gonna

1245
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: address these issues. They you know, like with the Dolly

1246
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: incident with Connor, like find areas that they can actually

1247
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: market and benefit from it. That that's either really good

1248
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: if you don't care about the politics in sports, especially

1249
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: in fighting, and you're like, dude, f all that stuff.

1250
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: But it. Also, it's also absurd that there's just like

1251
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: never a response like this will just go away tomorrow, Luke,

1252
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: and we'll put some more slabs and f fucking Fridays

1253
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: in the news cycle, right. I mean, that's just like.

1254
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: The BC again. This is always what happens with doping issues. Always.

1255
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Always what happens is people clutch their pearls and they

1256
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: wring their hands about how upset they are. But then

1257
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: when you just look around at you ask the individual stakeholders, fans, advertisers, whoever,

1258
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: are you really mad about it? Are you really gonna

1259
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: stop watching? Nobody ever says yes. Nobody ever says yes.

1260
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: It's just a fucking lie that people actually care about this.

1261
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: They care about the scandal for fun. They don't actually care.

1262
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Luke McGregor. And closing here, tol

1263
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: Dariel he wants to fight twice this year and said

1264
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: again about the Chandler fight. I assume late summer, maybe

1265
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: a little bit later, depending, but I would like that

1266
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: so obviously, Luke, we're at month three right now of

1267
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: this year. The six months could still make a September

1268
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: fight happen. If let's say, behind the scenes there were

1269
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, UFC was like Connor, sign up, dude, like

1270
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: let's go what the hell are we doing? I mean,

1271
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: even that is ridiculous because you're basically allowing him to

1272
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: set the own his own terms of the six month window.

1273
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: But we'll see, Luke. I don't know if he's getting

1274
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: a second fight in after that. Interesting Also, Luke, he

1275
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: told Ariel that this fight, this comeback was actually offered

1276
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: to him as Nate Diaz for a trilogy. He accepted.

1277
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: They brought the offer back there was you know, they

1278
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: probably tried to low ball Nate a little and they

1279
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: offered Chandler and they ended up coming back to Connor

1280
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: and going, no, it's going to be Chandler instead, and

1281
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be the Ultimate Fighter. Does that surprise

1282
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: you at all?

1283
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: No? You know, in talking to some of Nate's people,

1284
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: it seems to me like, and I know we'll talk

1285
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: about Francis in a minute, but I think they have

1286
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: the same idea that Francis does, which is going to

1287
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: get a boxing fight first, going to get a boxing

1288
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: fight first. Yeah, let's get some money, let's do that,

1289
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: and then you know, after that, I think it's wide

1290
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: open who knows after that, but I just think he

1291
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: wants the boxing fight first, so this is the this

1292
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: was the next best option, I suppose.

1293
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting to see Connor back at it, Luke.

1294
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Some things he said sound like the old you know,

1295
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: myistic mac of old other things quasi delutional. There's gonna

1296
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: be a lot of questions about him coming back from

1297
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: this injury. I mean, the other point I wanted to

1298
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: bring up was, I know he was trying to flex

1299
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: on how like I'm a fighter and I'll be fighting

1300
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: until they, you know, until they make me stop. But Luke,

1301
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: he basically told they're ill. That like, even if his

1302
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: leg hadn't healed, he was still gonna come back and

1303
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: quietly debilitated and not tell anybody and then pull guard

1304
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: the second the fight starts. And he even said he's

1305
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: been working on innovative offense from your back for that case,

1306
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: and it just so happened that the leg healed enough

1307
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: that he feels like he can actually make a legit

1308
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: come back. I'd like to get your thoughts on that, Luke.

1309
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: You know, Connor says some funny stuff like, you know,

1310
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: all of the all of the touch button the park stuff,

1311
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean that was Nate, but like all the ido

1312
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: portal movement stuff, it's all seems kind of silly and

1313
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: crazy and you're like, what is what is really the

1314
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: value here? And sometimes like against Mayweather, it didn't didn't

1315
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: help him. But I actually would say does have interesting

1316
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: ideas about health and wellness, not all of them all

1317
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: the time, but he has been a little bit, you know,

1318
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: he's been a little bit ahead of the game in

1319
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: certain ways like movement training, function training, things like that.

1320
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: He was he was more willing to embrace. I think

1321
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: some of those things in ways that others weren't. I

1322
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: don't know what he's got cooked up off of his back.

1323
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: I'd be curious to see it, but I wouldn't be

1324
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: so quick to poop poo it. I think we're often

1325
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: because Connor just has crazy shit like we just got,

1326
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: I would be no.

1327
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: I believe him. I believe he act looks like to

1328
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: do that, and it's ridiculous. It's kind of what we

1329
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: got on TJ. Dillashaw for right, It's like, okay, cool,

1330
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: you'll fight to the end, but if you're not, you're

1331
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: not able. It's interesting anyway, here's a transition from topic

1332
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: three to four, Luke Connor was softly dismissive of Francis

1333
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: and ghan Who's choices in walking away from a contract

1334
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: with the UFC, and that takes us to Francis and Ghana.

1335
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: Luke who caught up with Ariel as well this week

1336
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: on The MMA Hour and gave an update on his

1337
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: free agent quest. Francis says, I have made a decision

1338
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 1: without making a done deal. I know what my next

1339
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: move is going to be. I know I want to

1340
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: fight boxing first, but after that will be MMA, and

1341
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to sign with one MMA Promotion. I haven't

1342
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: made a decision on that yet. I'm very close, but

1343
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: PFL and one Championship right now, we are very close.

1344
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: We will see Luke Thomas, he said boxing will be first.

1345
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: I'll comment. I'll get his comments on Wilder in a second.

1346
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of signing with those two potential free

1347
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: agents there, do you have a preferred one? Do you

1348
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: have a feeling which one over the other can offer more?

1349
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: What do you look at for it?

1350
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: For this, I mean I don't really understands, so like, okay,

1351
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: so there's basically two considerations here that are top of

1352
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: mind for me. First, do they have the money. I

1353
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: suppose PFL and one having had relative especially one relatively

1354
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: recent cash infusions, that maybe they do. I don't think

1355
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: that's totally crazy, but I still wonder exactly what they

1356
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: can can really offer him in the PFL side. Obviously,

1357
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna tie a lot of the revenue to

1358
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: whatever he could pull on pay per view for them,

1359
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: so that would be kind of interesting. I want to

1360
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: see how the money works on that one. The second one, though,

1361
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: is I don't know who the fuck he's gonna fight,

1362
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Like Bellatore would have been a better fit for him,

1363
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh, we work, you know for chef

1364
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: time in CBS. Yeah, sure you know, but like just

1365
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: tell me. Okay, so if you went to one, who

1366
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: would he fight? To me, you could have the Argent

1367
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: Buller fight who was the champion. But the guy that

1368
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: would be more interesting is you and I are big

1369
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: on him and a totally Malacan. Now that would be

1370
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: a hell of a fight. I actually think Malacan would

1371
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: give him a fight. To be perfectly honest, Mallakin's a

1372
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: tough fucking guy. He's gonna be a big star in

1373
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: the sport. But okay, that's one or two fights. You

1374
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: could do the Bouchet show there, but he ain't really

1375
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: ready for a guy like Francis. You go over to PFL,

1376
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, I mean, I don't even know who

1377
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: could even last around with that guy. So you know,

1378
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't wanna pooh pooh Francis's efforts.

1379
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: We just have to be realistic where the money is

1380
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: gonna come from, how they're gonna package that in order

1381
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: to watch him, and who the opponents are going to be.

1382
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I don't have high hopes.

1383
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 2: Maybe a mall can fight.

1384
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: So this is a bad example because uh uber eam

1385
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: Luke just popped for for in kickboxing over em there,

1386
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 1: and but which is you know, let them play, let

1387
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: them play, Luke. But what if like, Okay, I'm signing

1388
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: with PFL, I'm gonna headline their first pay per view

1389
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: and their launch of this, and I'm gonna fight like

1390
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: an overream or something like a free agent, big name

1391
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: something like that, and the money was great and he

1392
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: already had a boxing pay day. I mean, I get

1393
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying, like you wouldn't be crazy excited, but

1394
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: that there's some vibrancy there right to come have a

1395
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: pay per view, come back on a loaded card potentially,

1396
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe enter their tournament and win they're heavyweight championship.

1397
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: Are you saying there's there's nothing there?

1398
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: Not saying there's not nothing there. But the problem with

1399
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: being at the stage where I think Francis or any major,

1400
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: really major pay per view star is is that the

1401
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: other organizations aren't really suited for that business. Right. That

1402
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: business is exclusive given the way the market is constructed.

1403
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 2: Where the UFC has again eighty plus percent or eighty

1404
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: percent roughly of the world's elite talent, the UFC makes

1405
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: ninety percent of all the money made in the industry

1406
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: in general. That relationship works well as a pay per

1407
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: view entity when you're with the pay per view driver

1408
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: in the business. When you're outside of it, you've kind

1409
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: of outgrown those other organizations. And I want to be

1410
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: clear about something. Fifteen years ago, when I was getting

1411
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: into the business or you know, starting out anyway, you know,

1412
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't like that there was much more parity. There was.

1413
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: It was mostly UFC and Pride, but there were other

1414
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: sort of small especially from like two thousand and one

1415
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: to two thousand and like five, there were some of

1416
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: these smaller shows not as much money in the game.

1417
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm just sort of pointing out there was much more

1418
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: parity between the promotions, but that has evaporated. It has

1419
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 2: changed dramatically since that time. And so when you're out

1420
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: the UFC and you are, you have a certain set

1421
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: of business needs and expectations in certain realities. I think

1422
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: in many ways, you know you you do it in

1423
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: a way. What it's outgrowing these smaller promotions, it's it's

1424
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: a tough fit. It's not an obvious fit. So I'm

1425
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: curious see how they're gonna make it work.

1426
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree on everything you said. I

1427
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: don't know the situation with Bellator beyond having seen Scott

1428
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: Koker even recently mentioned that, you know, they have interest,

1429
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: but it wasn't one of the finalists here that Francis mentioned.

1430
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: You'd love that potential synergy of like, you know, fight

1431
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: Wilder on showtime pay per view and then you know,

1432
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: fight Ryan Beata for the Bellotore heavyweight title, what have you.

1433
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: But we'll find out what happens where he goes either way.

1434
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: Luke.

1435
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: He was asked by Ariel on whether any of the

1436
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: potential suitors have agreed to the same type of demands

1437
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: he made regarding like healthcare U to the UFC. Here's

1438
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: his quote, guess what, so many of them are coming

1439
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: up with some of the stuff I asked for. They

1440
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: are proposing a plan to work on it, to get

1441
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: it better. Obviously we can't get everything done at once,

1442
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: but there is a willingness to improve and make things better.

1443
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: I was surprised I'd even have to fight about it.

1444
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to ask. There were just they

1445
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: were coming up with some offers and proposing terms. Hey look,

1446
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: it got him excited, But I actually think, you know, look,

1447
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what side of the line you you

1448
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: you sit on, whether he made the right move or

1449
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, because nobody can predict it the future. You know.

1450
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: For to some people, the virtuistic stand he took was everything.

1451
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: To some people that means nothing here. But if this

1452
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: is actually making change across the board at least in

1453
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: the other big promotions, like that's that's what happens when

1454
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: you when you take your platform and you know, risk

1455
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: something to try to make it, to try to make

1456
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: good things happen. Like it's great to see that.

1457
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I will tell you and just be honest. Now,

1458
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: you're a boxing fan, I think first, so you know

1459
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: your answer is going to be a little bit skewed here,

1460
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: But just like I think, try to put your MMA

1461
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 2: hat on exclusively. What would you rather see? Would you

1462
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: rather see Francis fight Deontay Wilder in a boxing match

1463
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: or would you rather see him fight anatotlely mallikin in one? Now,

1464
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I would love to see him.

1465
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: I actually think that's a great fight. I think Malacan

1466
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: would be a tough customer. I probably favor even Francis

1467
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 2: too with him.

1468
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: What's the guy's name, Luke Jim Bowler, Yeah, yeah, bulla.

1469
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: That guy's fun to watch too. That'd be in a

1470
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: really interesting fighter.

1471
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: And he can wrestle, that's proctually his primary primary skill set,

1472
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: so that could be interesting for a time. But you

1473
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: know the answer is fucking Deontae, Like, dude, Like that

1474
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: fight is amazing and it's not like the Tyson Fury

1475
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: fight where he got a big name. You know, Wilder

1476
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: doesn't have, as we talk about all the time, doesn't

1477
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: have great fundamentals. You got two guys with insane, freakish

1478
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: ko power that's just manifestly much more interesting than whatever

1479
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: else is out there. So you know, I appreciate he's

1480
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: going on his own path, but I really, really really

1481
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: hope whatever happened, whatever else happens, I really hope he

1482
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: can sink a big boxing fight just for his own sake.

1483
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: In RS well, it is ridiculous to go from UFC

1484
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: heavyweight champion to a really big boxing fight that like

1485
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: actually matters. I mean, like Connor did that with Floyd.

1486
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: But even though it was fully coming out of retirement,

1487
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: he was close enough to competent age where you know,

1488
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: like that's that's a big ass deal. Uh. It looks

1489
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: like boxing will be next, And according to Francis, when

1490
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: talking to Ariel, he said, yes, Deontay Wilder is the

1491
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: front runner at this point. We are closer with Wilder

1492
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: than with anyone else. Maybe sometime this summer. And he

1493
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 1: was asked about the idea of why do a boxing

1494
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: match with Wilder over a hybrid fight or the opposite,

1495
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: and Francis said, I think there's more interest in US

1496
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: boxing because I can give him more of a challenge

1497
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: than he can give me, meaning on the other side,

1498
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: of MMA, and that's yeah, I think that's right, Luke,

1499
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 1: It's potentially right. Potentially he also made it absolutely crazy.

1500
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean he also no matter that, no matter if

1501
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: he comes in skilled, trained to make good transition or not,

1502
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: you can get absolutely flattened against Deontay Wilder no matter

1503
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: your skill level, so no matter your toughness level. So

1504
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what what is the potential on a pay

1505
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: per view like that? What is that potential?

1506
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I honestly think it's good. I

1507
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a million buys, but if it's promoted, well,

1508
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: I think it could do a north of five hundred

1509
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: k buys. I do believe that. I really have to.

1510
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: Think about that. That's in a that's like a straight

1511
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: up attraction fight. It's like, let's take the two most

1512
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: devastating punchers on the planet. You know that it's it's

1513
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: it was like when let's take Floyd and Connor in

1514
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: their own way, the two most popular, vibrant whatever, you know,

1515
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,839
Speaker 1: notorious wants together. This this that's interesting.

1516
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Francis, Francis, this is not

1517
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: quite right because Deontay is kind of mocked a little

1518
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: bit for his lack of technical refinement. There is a

1519
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: little bit of that that goes on, and we've talked

1520
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: about like who's the hardest hitter. Deontay's on that list,

1521
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: but some of the other hardest hitters, like Julian Jackson

1522
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: or Ernie Shavers, they had it with a wider array

1523
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: of punches than Deontay does. Deontay's powerhand is just it's

1524
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: just the it's the dim mock. He's got it in

1525
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: some ways, not the technical aspect per se, but like

1526
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: Francis kind of is the Deontay Wilder of MM in

1527
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: the sense of like who you had to say, who's

1528
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: got the biggest power punching in boxing? It's right now,

1529
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: it's Deontay. Who's got the biggest power punching in MMA?

1530
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: It's Francis. Put them fucking two guys together, you know

1531
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, it's just it's just you don't

1532
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: have to be a technical genius to appreciate the fight.

1533
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: It's easy to get the people in. You're bringing two

1534
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: worlds together, You're bringing you know, like it's Godzilla versus

1535
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: whoever the fuck. Like it's just so easy to enjoy

1536
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: and sell. Ye, I hope they make it. I really do.

1537
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starting to really get the it's weird. I

1538
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: mean I never thought we'd be here. You know, I

1539
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: thought if he did do it, you know, there seemed

1540
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: to be some synergy there with Fury and some of

1541
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: the foundation that they built and trying to promote that,

1542
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, But you know, there's a

1543
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: lot of ways Francis can win even by losing, just

1544
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: by being competitive or showing great toughness or whatever. And

1545
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of ways this could be a

1546
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: very painful payday in that regard. But there's part of him, Luke,

1547
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: that it's not a like Again, a lot of it

1548
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: is the money, but I do think it goes back

1549
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: to like this, which is like the boyhood dream in Francis.

1550
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, he left his home country to try to

1551
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: become heavyweight boxing champion. He kind of stumbled into MMA

1552
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: in Summergards. So he's going for it. He's freaking going

1553
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: for it. Uh, let's go to quick hitters here, Luke,

1554
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't think boxing fans were prepared for this. After

1555
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: parting ways with BLK Prime ab Adrian Broner, the can

1556
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: man anyone can get it, Luke, including the last stop

1557
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: on the boxing promotional highway. Do King, this really happened

1558
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, Luke, Wow, brother, look at that

1559
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: picture that Don King's PR staff emailed everybody after the

1560
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: press release, no subject line, just the picture by the way,

1561
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: and there's stacks of cash, there's a crack cell phone,

1562
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: and I mean, dude, it's crazy. I mean, like, AB's

1563
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: only thirty three. I know he's got a lot of

1564
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: mileage on him in many ways, Luke, but he's still

1565
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: a four division champion. He's still got a thirty four

1566
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: to four and one record, but he only fought once

1567
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: in the last three years. Uh. And he's you know,

1568
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: skewing much more towards like joke falling apart almost the

1569
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: end of Mike Tyson's reign in the last few fights

1570
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: than anything else here.

1571
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1572
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell this will this will mean,

1573
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: because if you go with Don King, you inevitably are

1574
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: going to take him to court. That's sort of how

1575
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: that works. But I get that, like he's still willing

1576
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: if he can get somebody into a title fight, to

1577
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 1: work with everybody, and he put that in the press release,

1578
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: So it's just man this screen. This is a different

1579
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: type of uh of funk, and I can smell the desperation.

1580
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: Luke, It's amazing. Don King is in his nineties and

1581
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: he's still out here just swindling these fighters. I mean,

1582
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. Is und his longevity in the boxing game

1583
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: truly given everything he's dude, don I don't know if

1584
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: folks understand this. We're old pieces of shit. When we

1585
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: were young pieces of shit, Don King was being mocked

1586
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: as like, you know, bad for boxing when we were teens, Dude,

1587
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: when we were teens, and lo these many years later,

1588
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: he's still here doing this. Listen. I don't wish bad

1589
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: for Adrian. I really don't. I don't get any It

1590
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: doesn't do me any good to root for his demise.

1591
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't get anything out of it. Also, like you know,

1592
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: they're showing a picture with all that money in the

1593
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: front end, It's like, yeah, but how much is don

1594
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: taking on the back end and the writing?

1595
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: You know, Seriously, you can go fighter by fighter that

1596
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: have worked with him. You either take him to court

1597
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: or you end up sitting out, you know, a year

1598
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: and a half randomly, because I mean, there's always there's

1599
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 1: always something bad on that Bob.

1600
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 2: Just take him to court.

1601
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: I probably, dude, it's so consistent that like everybody don't know,

1602
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: I mean like and the only difference though is, let's

1603
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: let's give Bob aarm a lot of credit because they

1604
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: were longtime rivals and roughly the same age. But you know,

1605
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: Bob's still with a major machine on top. Don has

1606
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: not been relevant for a long time, although in the

1607
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: last fifteen years, you know, whenever he does get a

1608
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: fighter or a champion, he'll you know, you'll see him again.

1609
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 1: No pop back up, but he had for a while.

1610
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had a couple of.

1611
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: Guys, Mom, he is, he has a couple of random

1612
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: guys pop up. Yeah, I mean remember Vonas Martirosian went

1613
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: went with him for that one fight and it was

1614
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: like a deal with the Devil type thing. But I

1615
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: think Don King helped Vonas get the Triple G fight

1616
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: last minute something like that. Anyway, Luke will continue on

1617
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: these quick hitters. We'll see what happens with ab PFL

1618
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: Europe Big splash here. We knew Dan Hardy had a

1619
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: future there, Luke the announcement though yesterday Dan Hardy is

1620
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: the head of fighter operations for PFL Europe. He's also

1621
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: going to do broadcasting for them. He told us during

1622
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: our MK and UK Live show that he would have

1623
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: a role in some form also on I believe they're

1624
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: American broadcast. Luke, this is a really strong hire. But

1625
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: they're they're imploring him to like be a scout on

1626
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: the road, help in matchmaking, Like this is a big

1627
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: deal here.

1628
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: It's a great deal, you know. Honestly, we we love

1629
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: Dan Hardy over here at MK. He enjoyed seeing him

1630
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: in London and obviously we met his wife Veronica backstage.

1631
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: She was lovely as well, Like it was just great.

1632
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: And Dan's a good guy. He's a smart guy, he's

1633
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 2: a hard working guy, and he just seems like he's

1634
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: just not many Dan Hardy types in MMA. So the

1635
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: more keys to the Kingdom that he can get, I think,

1636
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: the better off we all are.

1637
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: And shout out to Saul Luke, you know what I mean,

1638
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: Better call Saul right the man man, Luke. You UFC

1639
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: announcing a return to Abu Dhabi, not just for season

1640
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: two of Power Slap, but how about a pay per

1641
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: view in October UFC two ninety four. Will you be

1642
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: filling out a credential request for this. Where is this

1643
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi?

1644
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I won't be going to Abu Dabi. No, good, thanks?

1645
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: Right, all right, I've been.

1646
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: To the Middle East. I've been to the Middle East

1647
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: to BC. I don't need to go to the uh.

1648
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: Oh No, we've heard horror stories oncovering fights there, and

1649
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily like like Abu Dhabi or the hotel's fall.

1650
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: It's just the grind.

1651
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: And if you had to go to one Middle East country,

1652
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: where would you go? You can only go one.

1653
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: I'd probably go to Uh.

1654
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: I go.

1655
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it was was not go

1656
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: at all an option? Luke? Was that an option? Rle? Yeah,

1657
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go.

1658
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: You wouldn't the Great Pyramids and no.

1659
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: I would. I would probably consider Israel.

1660
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: Or Egypt, Luke, uh Egypt would? I've been to Egypt

1661
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: and I've seen the Sphinx and actually went inside one

1662
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: of the pyramids when I was a kid. So I

1663
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: would recommend doing that once in your life.

1664
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh not connected to this because Abu Dhabi

1665
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: card will be October, But Luke, I also saw John

1666
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: Jones had a weird tweet at Steepe, in which he

1667
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: basically said, like I hear July might not be it,

1668
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 1: but I'm willing to fight you July October September, like

1669
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: whenever I wanted to give you again an updated guest

1670
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: from you. At what the International Fight Week Maine and

1671
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Comaine is, we just talked about the threat of Volkanovski

1672
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: versus Yaiyir being potentially the main or Komaine. If it's

1673
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: not John Jones and Steepe, what do you think the

1674
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: other one would be?

1675
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: So you could potentially do a welterweight title fight just

1676
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: given the timing, depending on how that goes. Like just

1677
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: imagine for a second that this is unlikely, but that

1678
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: both Leon and Jorge maz that all win. I mean,

1679
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's the fight that I want to see,

1680
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: but that just there's just no way they wouldn't make it, right,

1681
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: There's just no way they wouldn't make it. So there

1682
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: are some other opportunities, But I would say losing Jones,

1683
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean Jones steep A would be for the UFC's

1684
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: purposes and I think the fan appeal that would be

1685
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Speaker 2: a great fit. There's not a lot of there's there's

1686
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: other good fights you could put in that role, right,

1687
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: but there's not a great substitute for that on the

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01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: on the raidar, especially since Connor won't fight till after that.

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01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd take way Ley Rose three, but I

1690
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: seem to be the only one pushing for that these days. Luter,

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything about that division's top in a while,

1692
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: have you strawit? I haven't heard like any.

1693
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: Kind of not recent not recently.

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: I need to get on the ones and twos there,

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01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: call up mcmaynard, Luke or Sean Shelby there fight announcements. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the one championship unification that they're thinking about.

1697
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: It's got a date March twenty fourth, and it's Argent

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Bueler versus anatotally maleiakin to unify this title here, Luke In. Yeah,

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01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: hell yeah, March twenty fourth. No, that's got to be wrong.

1700
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: That'd be a week from now, is it?

1701
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: May til They were supposed to fight, but it got

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01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: Buller pulled out, So I don't think that fights on

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01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: the card anymore with Malickin and Buller.

1704
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: Oh, because I didn't read the fine print closely, Luke,

1705
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: it's off there. You go. That's the news job.

1706
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: Thanks glad you're here.

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: Wow, I just let me just I could put the

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01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: stamp on the envelope and mail the rest of the

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Speaker 1: show in Luke. Emily Ducatti April twenty ninth, Pollyanna Vianna

1710
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: UFC Vegas, seventy two. That's here into that.

1711
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: That's a good one, that's a great one. Emily Ducotti

1712
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: has been on Morita for a while. She had a

1713
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: great debut against Jessica Penney. I'm not sure if she's

1714
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,839
Speaker 2: fought since then. I think she may haven't lost, actually,

1715
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: but in general I think she's good for the opportunity.

1716
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: Should be a great test.

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01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that same night, how about this Luke April

1718
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, armand sur Ukian versus Hi Nato Moiicano. Ye

1719
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah.

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01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: I mean what what what? What? What is there not

1721
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: to like about that? That is yeah, excellence, Give me

1722
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: more of that.

1723
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: So May twentieth UFC fight night. You know that guy

1724
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: Slava clause borchef. You know he's back, Luke, the mister

1725
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: Faber product against Mahashate. Is that how you say that?

1726
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: I have to look it up. Let me see.

1727
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: That dude's fun to f this. This is a weird

1728
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: fun fight, isn't it.

1729
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: This is Yeah, forget how you pronounce his name he

1730
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: actually has. He goes by he's like sting. He goes

1731
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: with just the one name sometimes. Yeah, yeah, should be fine.

1732
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: I should be into that, Luke June third, Tim Elliott

1733
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: versus Alan Nassamento. You don't care about that?

1734
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: Not much? I do.

1735
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: I do. I'm a big tim Elliott guy, Eric Anders

1736
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: Marc andre Buriol who's writing these That's June tenth, Luke,

1737
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: same night, Miranda Maverick against Jasmine Jazz Davisius. I'm into

1738
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: that one.

1739
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: That's a great one. Jasuda Vissias, That's a great one.

1740
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: Looking forward to see if those two could take a

1741
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: step forward in their career.

1742
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: Danny Sabattello recently re signed with Belatour. He comes back

1743
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: at Belatore two ninety four against Marcos Breno. I don't

1744
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: know that named offhand, but I'll be excited for that

1745
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: and targeted for May at UFC two eighty eight. How

1746
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: about Drew dober versus Matt Fravola.

1747
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: Love that one. Two absolute dynamos, you know, Forravola is

1748
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: going to bring the fight to him. Dober's not going

1749
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: to back down. Fireworks for that one.

1750
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: Yes, Injection City please, And to recap again this Saturday,

1751
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: we do have some boxing on his own there from

1752
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: Long Beach, California. It's Gilberto Romerez against Gabriel Rosado and

1753
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: then n Colemane Joseph Diaz Junior against Mercito Hesta and

1754
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: then al wait, I'm looking.

1755
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: On the calendar. Here we see the March eighteen fights

1756
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 2: same day over in Dubai, the Jirell Big Baby Miller.

1757
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: This is the same Big Baby Miller who tested positive

1758
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: for like all the serial like all of.

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: That, and then like a week later they're like hold on.

1760
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: He actually texted Buzz for an additional one. There was

1761
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: like every they were like separating his his fe season

1762
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: urine like nope, found more, found more in there. He

1763
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: came back, Luke recently like off to you, like low

1764
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: level and but he was like fat as shit, Luke.

1765
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: He's going in here against Lucas Brown, who's you know

1766
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: from down under, who's been around a long time. That's

1767
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: a gross it's kind of a gross fight, Luke. But

1768
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure I know Ray Flores is on the call

1769
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: there in Dubai, So shout out to h to sweet

1770
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: baby Ray there but Joe O'Carroll and Miguel Marriot and

1771
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,879
Speaker 1: nobody cares the rest of the way that happens on Saturday.

1772
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: If you're like a hardcore, you'll be there all right, Luke,

1773
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: Let's go now to a quick helping of what we

1774
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: do every Friday morning combat. Oh no, sorry, hold, let

1775
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: me pause that one second, look before we get there,

1776
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: before we get to dead wrong. We'll be dead wrong

1777
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 1: myself right now. And let me reiterate something to you, Luke.

1778
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: Thomas Leon Edwards. Luke, he's got the home field advantage

1779
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: when him and tomorrow Usmann complete their trilogy tomorrow at

1780
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Speaker 1: UFC two eighty six. Am I right?

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Speaker 2: That's right for UFC two eighty six. This one could

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Speaker 2: go either way, which makes it a perfect opportunity BC

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about when it comes to betting

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Speaker 1: like predicting how a fight will finish and how many

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Speaker 1: rounds it will go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you want a sportsbook that gives you

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Speaker 1: the most for your money, bet on this weekend's UFC

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Speaker 1: two eighty six. I'm sorry, yeah, two eighty six. It's

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Speaker 1: what it is tomorrow. But bet on it with my bookie.

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Speaker 2: Bet anything anytime, anywhere with my bookie.

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Speaker 1: Damn right, all right, this is my co host. His

1799
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas, and Luke every week we say

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Speaker 1: a lot of things into a microphone and it ain't

1801
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: all right. Okay, it's not right, but it's okay. We're

1802
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: gonna make it anyway, Luke. But our fans can email

1803
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: morningcomm at gmail dot com and they can tell us

1804
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: with a receipt some chutzpa and maybe the balls to

1805
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: tell us off in the process that we were dead wrong.

1806
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: We've got angry male viewers. All right, this is Paul

1807
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: from Texas. Hey MK, a short dead wrong for today.

1808
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: On Wednesday's episode, BC said, Julianna Miller is from the

1809
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 1: Dana White Contender series when she's actually from The Ultimate

1810
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: Fighter as its flyweight tournament winner last season. Thanks for

1811
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: having this part of the show because many others either

1812
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: say more in correct facts or butcher name's worse than

1813
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: the animals in BC's gas Station hot Dogs. Wow. We

1814
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: appreciate the accountability for the team and donks alike. Paul

1815
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: from Texas. Yes, Paul, I continuely got that wrong. I

1816
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: mean it's the same thing though, right, It's like it's

1817
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: like the JV Last Triple A, like the Last Station, Luke,

1818
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: that gets you ready to launch. Okay, it's the same thing, right,

1819
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: all right, fair enough, Luke. I think Killer Miller is

1820
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: going to make some noise. She's gonna knock some people

1821
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: out and do crazy things and tap them.

1822
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Mind she might. She got to work on her She's

1823
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: gotta work on a striking. It needs some work. But

1824
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: her ground game is phenomenal, you know.

1825
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: All right. Our other dead wrong of the week is

1826
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: aimed at you. It comes from a fellow named Austin.

1827
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: At one twenty six of episode four seventeen, That's an

1828
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: Hour twenty six, Luke stated that his daughter's new favorite

1829
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: movie is The Princess and the Frog. While I agree

1830
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: with this choice of movie, I cannot overlook the error

1831
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: Luke made when he explained that the movie was not

1832
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: in fact new and has been out for five or

1833
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: so years. The Princess and the Frog is a two

1834
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: thousand and nine Disney movie, And while sometimes I also

1835
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 1: feel real it wasn't that long ago, we must remember

1836
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: how truly old and washed we really are. That's from

1837
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: Jesus told.

1838
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: Only let me double check that is that fucking true?

1839
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for these pedantic pieces of shit. Look,

1840
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: we weren't even had a segment this week, So maybe

1841
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: we'll both take those l's and uh.

1842
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck two thousand and nine.

1843
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: Shit, it's going fast. Are you finally at the point

1844
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: that when you see things from the two thousands on TV?

1845
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: It looks like really really old, like even like the fashion,

1846
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: the style, like so funny.

1847
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: I remember watching certain games at that time and thinking,

1848
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: you know, this looked great or normal or it didn't

1849
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: look bad at any capacity, and then watching replays years

1850
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: later like, holy shit, this looks so old. It looks

1851
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: so fucking old. Yeah, yeah, we were much younger in

1852
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,799
Speaker 2: those I have to dead wrong. Myself, I said yesterday

1853
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: on my life chat, which I know you don't care

1854
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: about this. My part was for free that someone had

1855
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: asked me to watch the movie in Bruce. You ever

1856
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: seen the movie in Bruce? We see?

1857
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: Uh No, I have seen Mulan Brus the music video

1858
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: many times.

1859
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: Look, okay, you know, and Bruce is a good movie. It's

1860
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: got Colin Farrell in it, and it's got I think

1861
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 2: Ralph finds in it too. It's actually really good. And

1862
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 2: it takes place in a city called Bruges. In my

1863
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 2: fucking stupid you know this is what two decades of

1864
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: drinking will do to your brain. Yeah, I said it

1865
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 2: was in Holland. It is not. It is in Belgium.

1866
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 2: The reason I think I got confused is because I

1867
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 2: went to both those countries on the same vacation. And

1868
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Speaker 2: I think what surprised me was I went to Bruges

1869
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: and they spoke Dutch. There at least a lot of

1870
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: people did speak Dutch, a lot of signs were in Dutch,

1871
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: and I was surprised because that's a French speaking country typically,

1872
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 2: So what is German there too? Actually? But anyway, I

1873
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: got it wrong, so fuck me. There you go.

1874
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Luke, are you a serial dutch of an artist.

1875
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Speaker 2: Or we're not.

1876
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: We're not going there.

1877
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah you can. That's a fair accusation. That's a fair accusation.

1878
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 1: All right, we will.

1879
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: My daughter is gonna kill me for this, So is

1880
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: she later on when she discovers this, when her team

1881
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: is that I embarrassed her. You know, my daughter will

1882
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Speaker 2: absolutely dutch Oven the balls of the bed. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the award winning content you can all

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Speaker 1: get from Morning Combat. And speaking of that, Luke, there

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Speaker 1: want of Oh, they only win these awards because they

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Speaker 1: tell their fans about it. But you know, I didn't

1894
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: tell you to make fifty fake email addresses. You just

1895
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: did that because you love me, and I don't know

1896
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: what to do with that.

1897
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: Guilt. You only won that election because you knocked on

1898
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 2: doors and asked people to vote for you. Yeah, that's right,

1899
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 2: you can't paign regret.

1900
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you freaking campaign there, Luke. I. I wanted to

1901
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 1: tell you quickly as I round out this Creed and

1902
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Rocky journey that I forgot. Creed one's really good, really.

1903
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: Great, dude one, Creed one. You know, I don't know

1904
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: exactly where you would put it if you're ranking all

1905
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: the Creed and all the Rocky movies, because there's a

1906
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: lot of history there. But just as a movie, Creed

1907
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 2: one to me delivers big time.

1908
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna do that Monday, Luke. We should make

1909
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: it a segment there because I'm going to be finished

1910
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: with all nine creating Rocky movies. When I take my

1911
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: kids to the UH, I told them we got to

1912
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: do it. You got a freaking do imax.

1913
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Speaker 2: This is the problem with Twister, man. I can't take

1914
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: her to movies like that right now.

1915
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, I got you, I got you, But dude, damn,

1916
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: Creed one reminded me how how how great it can be.

1917
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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. You see anything cool lately? Luke.

1918
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I just finished Outer Bank season three, and it was

1919
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: a flaming shit show. But the ride was fun. But man,

1920
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: who edited that one? All right, over to you, Luke,

1921
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: what are you watching?

1922
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: What am I watching these days? I don't watch, dude,

1923
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: I mean I don't have any I don't. If I

1924
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: tell you what I watched, you're gonna make fun of

1925
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: Are you ready? I'm ready? But I watched recently. I

1926
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 2: haven't watched any TV show, so that's not anything I

1927
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: could say. Obviously, whatever my daughter puts on. But in

1928
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: terms of my free time, I've been watching John danaher

1929
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: series on BJJ fanatics on a bunch of different ship

1930
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 2: and just taking notes.

1931
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: Dude, you're you're, you're. It's it's like being in the

1932
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: weight room. You know, you're you're, you're putting in the time, Luke. Okay,

1933
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: And no, I can't take that away from you because

1934
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: that what that's what makes you great?

1935
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, it's true.

1936
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: I mean what remember when I asked Dan Hardy and

1937
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: I wanted him to give me some awesome answer of

1938
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: like what makes you different than the other fighter analysts?

1939
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 1: Like like, you know, what is it? Tell me? You

1940
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: tell me your dad owned a gym and you grew

1941
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: up watching it from this angle, you know, what I mean. No,

1942
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: he's like, I just watch more tape than everybody else.

1943
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 2: Dude. Really, it's at the end of the day, like homework.

1944
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 2: You laughed at me about my answer in high school, dude,

1945
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Like getting not an appetite for homework, but getting a

1946
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 2: tolerance for it. Yeah, and and being able to work

1947
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 2: through that, dude, that will save you in your adult life.

1948
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: And ways you just don't appreciate the ability to work

1949
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: through homework without you know, distraction or delay, just doing

1950
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 2: it and making a habit every day. The dividends over

1951
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,879
Speaker 2: a year are extraordinary, to say nothing of ten or fifteen.

1952
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wish I had had better habits. Yeah. I

1953
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: mean I was a tremendous student, Luke, until I, you know,

1954
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: stopped being one. But if I had kept those better habits,

1955
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't have the story to tell, Luke.

1956
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I wouldn't have this great life

1957
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: story to tell without it. I mean, you can't, you

1958
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: can't go back and change it. But yeah, I mean,

1959
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: if you're wondering, BC, were you just just a stupid

1960
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: pos for at least half of your life? Yeah, yeah,

1961
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:32,719
Speaker 1: I'd say that's true.

1962
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 2: You know, I've been a super pos most of my life.

1963
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: I just yeah, but at least I'm living the good

1964
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: half of the life now, So that's yeah.

1965
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're killing it now. You're killing it now. Yeah.

1966
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Well my liver too, that's the problem, Luke. Okay, you

1967
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: know you said you had an appetite for learning. I

1968
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: had an appetite for destruction at seven to eleven. Okay,

1969
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: that's what I had going on. Yeah, but you know

1970
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: what I would I change it, Luke. So I don't know.

1971
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1972
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: I change a lot. I can't believe you don't have regrets.

1973
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 2: I have like a shitload.

1974
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I have regrets to the things I did

1975
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: that I know hurt people that you know, and that

1976
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: that you have. If you don't have regrets in that regard,

1977
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're a big piece of crap, Luke.

1978
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: But you know, dude, you there's this is going to

1979
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: turn into Tony Robbins. But you know there's so much

1980
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: to learn from a l Luke. You don't want to

1981
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: go through it. But man, you know you went.

1982
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: As we've said many times, you win or you learn,

1983
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 2: And boy, have I done some learning in this life.

1984
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

1985
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's great. That's great, all right, Luke. End

1986
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: of the year. Okay, bet, don't forget.

1987
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,879
Speaker 2: Uh we picked the Cas post By show tomorrow.

1988
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the deal. Luke Thomas is going to

1989
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 1: go live his life and have a real night out.

1990
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. I'm going to be doing the

1991
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 1: UFC two eighty six instant analysis spoiler alert. There will

1992
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: be spoilers. I mean, what kind of person Lukes wakes

1993
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 1: up the next morning goes, you know what, I didn't

1994
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: stay up for the fights last night because of the

1995
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: time zone and all that. You know, why don't I

1996
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: watch something that won't give me spoilers, but that I

1997
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,839
Speaker 1: could just you know, entertain myself, I know, a post

1998
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: fight reaction show.

1999
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2000
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to believe when you make

2001
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 1: fun of the reading level of our audience, loough, because

2002
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: most of these people are hard working, good, honest people.

2003
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 2: Okay, fast majority of no, no, no, no, the overwhelming majority

2004
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: of people totally get it. It's always just a few

2005
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 2: fuckheads that fill up my why it's just stop.

2006
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that, dude. I'm with you,

2007
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: all right. I don't know where I was going Luke,

2008
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: I got off an exit real quick. But we can

2009
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: probably park this thing and you know, take it on home, right,

2010
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: let's do it. Yeah, thank you to Gaff Pierre on

2011
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: the Ones and twos, Malka, our friends there, CBS Sports

2012
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: and Showtime. You can actually get thirty days free of showtime.

2013
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: Right now. We're talking about Belatory MMA Championship Boxing Bill

2014
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 1: Cosby Docks from camal Bell. We got a lot of

2015
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: good stuff going on there. Our partner's there, so check

2016
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: it out. Take the play lunge, no sand needed at

2017
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: the end you'll because you'll be pounding the pavement with

2018
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: more content. Okay, that's what's gonna happen right there. You

2019
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: can wear our merchant. It's fantastic bomber jacket. Sison is back.

2020
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean it is. You know, it's like that transition

2021
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 1: from winter to spring, Luke. Nothing feels better than that

2022
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: bomber jacket when you're walking Tukes around the park, you know,

2023
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: and you're like, no Tukes, no splash pad, only in this,

2024
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, one season for that one season per year

2025
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: for that.

2026
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 2: I wore my black bomber jacket to the park yesterday

2027
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 2: with Tuchster. How about that Okay, I like that.

2028
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: I like that, Luke. It is Saint Patrick's Day. I'm

2029
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: reminded by Gaff. You know, if I was twenty three,

2030
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: i'd be arriving at the Old Corner Cafe and og

2031
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: talk Connecticut about you know, ten am, and you know

2032
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 1: I'd be going for it, Luke, I'd be going after it.

2033
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: All right, we get in the showby see it's okay,

2034
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 2: it's okay.

2035
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: Those days are long over, Luke. So for any more

2036
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: stories on the history of Luke's Saint Patrick's Day debacles,

2037
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: you'll have to pay for that in his life at

2038
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: next Thursday. There's our social handles and channels right there.

2039
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, you know, look, I don't want

2040
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: it in the show because I love doing this, you

2041
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

2042
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: Because it's time to end the show.

2043
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Less is more, Okay, there you go. That's what I

2044
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: said about my secondary education for Luke Thomas. My name

2045
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 1: is Brian Campbell, and there's no dynamic duo like us.

2046
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: Whether you like it or don't like it, sit around

2047
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 1: and take a look, because it's the best thing going.

2048
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: We're out of here, Thank you, thank you very much.